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ST. JOSEPH, MICH. - At least three people are dead at the Berrien County Courthouse following a shooting, an employee at the county prosecutor's office said.
Three people are dead and one person is injured, said the employee, who wished not to be named. Michigan State Police confirmed the shooting around 2:30 p.m. Monday, July 11.
Two of the people dead are court bailiffs. The other person dead is the shooter, the employee said.
State police have not confirmed those numbers nor the status of the shooter.
The employee at the prosecutor's office said the courthouse is under lockdown, and employees are being kept in their offices.
A Berrien County Commissioner told WZZM's ABC affiliate WBND reporter Vahid Sadrzadeh on scene that a man who was on his way to jail took a gun off a deputy and started opening fire.
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Nothing anyone can do about it
Haven't I mentioned that before
This is common occurrence in this country
I suggest you start a thread directed to "iwantmass" explaining to him that this type of thing is a common occurrence.
He seems to think they are anomalies.
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Nothing anyone can do about it
Haven't I mentioned that before
This is common occurrence in this country
I suggest you start a thread directed to "iwantmass" explaining to him that this type of thing is a common occurrence.
He seems to think they are anomalies.
Most gun control types claim only law enforcement is capable and qualified to carry a gun - and here the skell took the weapon off said le officer and killed 3 people. So what law and regulation do you pass to stop this?
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Most gun control types claim only law enforcement is capable and qualified to carry a gun - and here the skell took the weapon off said le officer and killed 3 people. So what law and regulation do you pass to stop this?
why don't you try paying attention dipshit
I've said I agree with your side that we should do nothing
they happen every day and nothing we can do to stop them so lets stop pretending this shit is even a "story"
BTW - having given your sides position a lot of thought I think we should apply it to drunk driving, rape, murder, and abortion
laws in place clearly haven't prevented those things from continuing to happen so the best course of action is to accept it and do nothing
It certainly makes no sense to bitch and moan and get upset about things if you can't stop them from happening 100% of the time
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Baltimore Police Department
Local law enforcement agency · 14 hrs ·
Quintuple Shooting Investigation
On July 11, 2016 at approximately 6:35 p.m., officers responded to the 1800 block of W. North Avenue for shooting.
Upon arrival the officers located two adult females who were suffering from non life treating injuries. While on the scene, three other victims, two adult females and an adult male arrived at area hospitals with non life threatening injuries.
Citywide shooting detectives are investigating this incident and have identified no motives or suspects.
Preliminary investigation revealed approximately 20 to 30 people were in the block holding a vigil for 24 year old Jermaine Schofield of the 1900 block of Ramsey Street. Schofield had been murdered at the location on July 10, 2016 at approximately 1:10 a.m.
While the vigil was taking place, an unknown gunman approached the group and opened fire striking the victims.
Anyone with information is asked to call (410) 396-2221 or call Metro Crime Stoppers at 1-866-7LOCKUP.
Where are all the BLM thugs on this?
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Nothing anyone can do about it
Haven't I mentioned that before
This is common occurrence in this country
I suggest you start a thread directed to "iwantmass" explaining to him that this type of thing is a common occurrence.
He seems to think they are anomalies.
In a population of 320 million, I don't think they are anomalies. I know they are anomalies. Perhaps you should go take a statistics course, if you don't understand the meaning of the word just as you don't understand your screen name
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In a population of 320 million, I don't think they are anomalies. I know they are anomalies. Perhaps you should go take a statistics course, if you don't understand the meaning of the word just as you don't understand your screen name
maybe you can help me out professor
how many days in a year
how many shootings per day?
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maybe you can help me out professor
how many days in a year
how many shootings per day?
Don't care how many there are per day. In the scope of such a vast population, the number is small
While each are tragic in their own right, they are irrelevant to the total population
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maybe you can help me out professor
how many days in a year
how many shootings per day?
5 people shot at a memorial for another shot dead - you think some law gonna curb that?
Liberal please!
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maybe you can help me out professor
how many days in a year
how many shootings per day?
Would you consider drownings an epidemic?
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5 people shot at a memorial for another shot dead - you think some law gonna curb that?
Liberal please!
of course not
that's just an anomaly
things like this rarely happen
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of course not
that's just an anomaly
things like this rarely happen
in some communites is rarely and never happens - not so much for others. . .. .
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Would you consider drownings an epidemic?
do you believe I've said gun violence is an epidemic or are you saying you believe epidemic is the antonym of anomaly?
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do you believe I've said gun violence is an epidemic or are you saying you believe epidemic is the antonym of anomaly?
i think you are not being honest w your posts lately on this issue
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do you believe I've said gun violence is an epidemic or are you saying you believe epidemic is the antonym of anomaly?
I suppose I can't blame you for playing on words. You really don't have a good argument and are too chickenshit to post the 1 you do have.
I'm sorry you didn't know what the word anomaly meant and that the number of mass shootings that happen, given a population of 320 million, qualify as anomalies
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i think you are not being honest w your posts lately on this issue
Pay attention to all of his posts. He never takes a real side in any issue. He just nitpicks at posts from the side lines. Not once has he ever truly stated his case on an issue. He dances around them more than a politician
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I suppose I can't blame you for playing on words. You really don't have a good argument and are too chickenshit to post the 1 you do have.
I'm sorry you didn't know what the word anomaly meant and that the number of mass shootings that happen, given a population of 320 million, qualify as anomalies
it's got nothing to do with the number of people in the country but rather how many times the event happens, which is basically daily
Shit, if we had a mass shooting (4 or more shot or killed) even once a month it would be considered a regular occurrence
By your standard almost everything is an anomaly
Let's look at death itself
According to the CDC there are 821.5 deaths per thousand people
So less than 1%
Thus death is an anomaly in the US
Maybe I don't understand your definition of the work anomaly
According to the dictionary it's something that is an oddity, peculiarity, abnormality, irregularity, inconsistency, incongruity, aberration, quirk, rarity.
So clearly gun violence is does not happen on a regular basis in this country. It's quite the oddity and happens very rarely.
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it's got nothing to do with the number of people in the country but rather how many times the event happens, which is basically daily
Shit, if we had a mass shooting (4 or more shot or killed) even once a month it would be considered a regular occurrence
By your standard almost everything is an anomaly
Let's look at death itself
According to the CDC there are 821.5 deaths per thousand people
So less than 1%
Thus death is an anomaly in the US
Maybe I don't understand your definition of the work anomaly
According to the dictionary it's something that is an oddity, peculiarity, abnormality, irregularity, inconsistency, incongruity, aberration, quirk, rarity.
So clearly gun violence is does not happen on a regular basis in this country. It's quite the oddity and happens very rarely.
How many mass shooters per 100000 people? I bet vastly less than 821.
You take all this time to look that up, only to be made to look dumb in 5 seconds
And are we just talking about gun violence now, or mass shootings? Try to stay on topic.
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How many mass shooters per 100000 people? I bet vastly less than 852.
You take all this time to look that up, only to be made to look dumb in 5 seconds
no idea but surely less than 852
what's the difference
death itself is already an anomaly so a subset of death surely is too
look at this way
most of the people alive on the planet today will not die thus death is an anomaly so all forms of death are obviously also anomalies
Even though death happens every day it's still an unusual, peculiar, irregular and inconsistent, basically an aberration.
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no idea but surely less than 852
what's the difference
death itself is already an anomaly so a subset of death surely is too
look at this way
most of the people alive on the planet today will not die thus death is an anomaly so all forms of death are obviously also anomalies
Even though death happens every day it's still an unusual, peculiar, irregular and inconsistent, basically an aberration.
Acthally, 100% of the people on this planet will die, dumbass. I know you are weak with statistics, but 100% is a lot. Wanna take a guess at what number of people will commit mass shootings? What percentage are victims of mass shootings? I'll even throw you a bone. What percentage of people commit gun violence or are victims of it
This is too easy...no wonder you never take a stance on an issue
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Acthally, 100% of the people on this planet will die, dumbass. I know you are weak with statistics, but 100% is a lot. Wanna take a guess at what number of people will commit mass shootings? What percentage are victims of mass shootings? I'll even throw you a bone. What percentage of people commit gun violence or are victims of it
This is too easy...no wonder you never take a stance on an issue
sure but not today
thus death itself is an anomaly
can you post a definition of an anomaly where it's based on a % of population
Hey guess what, abortion and cancer an anomalies too
Since mass shootings are an anomaly I wouldn't expect we'll see another one any time soon
I'm sure you would at least agree with that
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sure but not today
thus death itself is an anomaly
can you post a definition of an anomaly where it's based on a % of population
Hey guess what, abortion and cancer an anomalies too
Since mass shootings are an anomaly I wouldn't expect we'll see another one any time soon
I'm sure you would at least agree with that
If something happens to 100% of a group it doesn't qualify. Try again. You suck at this debate thing
When we start seeing 100% of the population committing or being victims of mass shootings, then we I'll talk. 1% has to happen before we get to 100
In a global population of 11 billion and an American population of 320 million, we will see anomalies everyday. People win multiple lotteries a week around the globe. Doesn't mean lottery winners are common place
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If something happens to 100% of a group it doesn't qualify. Try again. You suck at this debate thing
When we start seeing 100% of the population committing or being victims of mass shootings, then we I'll talk. 1% has to happen before we get to 100
In a global population of 11 billion and an American population of 320 million, we will see anomalies everyday. People win multiple lotteries a week around the globe. Doesn't mean lottery winners are common place
who says
I still have no idea what you definition of an anomaly is
Here's a definition online
So we know that mass shooting (4 or more people shot) happen on virtually a daily basis (link already posted in another thread) and even though it happens daily or almost daily it's still very rarity and an oddity
Same goes for abortion and cancer. Very anomalous
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who says
I still have no idea what you definition of an anomaly is
Here's a definition online
So we know that mass shooting (4 or more people shot) happen on virtually a daily basis (link already posted in another thread) and even though it happens daily or almost daily it's still very rarity and an oddity
Same goes for abortion and cancer. Very anomalous
Abortions happen far more than mass shootings as does cancer. If something happens to or as a result of .00000001 percent of the population, I would say that is an abnormality, a deviation from the norm. Your confusion lies in the huge sample size (American population). Relative to the sample size, anomalies will happen more often but in an negligible amount to the total sample body.
I think I enjoy making you look like an idiot even more so than I do andre. You actually think you are smart so.it results in your humiliation. Deep down, Andre knows he is an idiot and I feel like I'm besting a small retarded child
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Abortions happen far more than mass shootings as does cancer. If something happens to or as a result of .00000001 percent of the population, I would say that is an abnormality, a deviation from the norm. Your confusion lies in the huge sample size (American population). Relative to the sample size, anomalies will happen more often but in an negligible amount to the total sample body.
I think I enjoy making you look like an idiot even more so than I do andre. You actually think you are smart so.it results in your humiliation. Deep down, Andre knows he is an idiot and I feel like I'm besting a small retarded child
LOL - at the self congratulation.
Sure sign of an insecure person
I'm glad you've finally given me your arbitrary defintion of anomaly.
Does this standard of .00000001% exist anywhere in science or research or is it something you just pulled out of your ass?
Can the professor now tell us what .00000001% of 320,000,000 (rough US Population) is so we have a clear understanding of your definition of an anomalous mass shooting event in relation to the population of this country.
Again, we'll ignore the obvious fact that a mass shooting (defined as 4 or more people being shot) happens virtually every day in this county
Let's just go by your personal "% of population" definition"
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LOL - at the self congratulation.
Sure sign of an insecure person
I'm glad you've finally given me your arbitrary defintion of anomaly.
Does this standard of .00000001% exist anywhere in science or research or is it something you just pulled out of your ass?
Can the professor now tell us what .00000001% of 320,000,000 (rough US Population) is so we have a clear understanding of your definition of an anomalous mass shooting event in relation to the population of this country.
Again, we'll ignore the obvious fact that a mass shooting (defined as 4 or more people being shot) happens virtually every day in this county
Let's just go by your personal "% of population" definition"
Nothing insecure. Some of us just know people like you are inferior, and you continue to demonstrate it with your desperation. Try another tactic.
I didn't provide you my definition of an anomaly. You provided it yourself and it wasnt worth repeating. I provided an arbitrary very small number which would statistically fit the definition. A number likely similar to the number of people that commit or fall victim to mass shootings
No one is ignoring the fact that they happen everyday. And they are all tragedies. But that doesn't make them any less of an anomaly, nor does it change the fact that the left politicize them for their own means.
Look, you aren't smart. I get that much. However, you do know what an anomaly is and you do know mass shooting fit the criteria. You are just being stubborn in an effort to save face. I don't mind, because it gives me more opportunities to belittle you
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Nothing insecure. Some of us just know people like you are inferior, and you continue to demonstrate it with your desperation. Try another tactic.
I didn't provide you my definition of an anomaly. You provided it yourself and it wasnt worth repeating. I provided an arbitrary very small number which would statistically fit the definition. A number likely similar to the number of people that commit or fall victim to mass shootings
No one is ignoring the fact that they happen everyday. And they are all tragedies. But that doesn't make them any less of an anomaly, nor does it change the fact that the left politicize them for their own means.
Look, you aren't smart. I get that much. However, you do know what an anomaly is and you do know mass shooting fit the criteria. You are just being stubborn in an effort to save face. I don't mind, because it gives me more opportunities to belittle you
again, tell us (by your own standard) what .00000001% of 320,000,000 (rough US Population) is so we have a clear understanding of your definition of an anomalous mass shooting event in relation to the population of this country.
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again, tell us (by your own standard) what .00000001% of 320,000,000 (rough US Population) is so we have a clear understanding of your definition of an anomalous mass shooting event in relation to the population of this country.
So this is what your argument has devolved to.....I'm gonna go work out for the next 1 1/2 hours. Take that time to go collaborate with other members or real life friends. Put together a better argument than this. Then I will take 15 more seconds out of my day to refute it
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So this is what your argument has devolved to.....I'm gonna go work out for the next 1 1/2 hours. Take that time to go collaborate with other members or real life friends. Put together a better argument than this. Then I will take 15 more seconds out of my day to refute it
This is your premise...remember
You claimed mass shooting were an anomalous even based on the % of the population
then you finally offered a number on how to calculate an anomaly (again your premise and your number) and now you can't even do the math.
let me help you out: http://bfy.tw/6iAv
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This is your premise...remember
You claimed mass shooting were an anomalous even based on the % of the population
then you finally offered a number on how to calculate an anomaly (again your premise and your number) and now you can't even do the math.
let me help you out: http://bfy.tw/6iAv
As I said a few posts above the number is arbitrary. I literally spouted off a dismally small number for the comparison to the low percentile on mass shooters and mass shootings victims. Wipe the tears from your yes, allow the red to draw away from your cheeks, and learn to read. No one with any common sense would take the number literally, and I even clarified as much.
Words for you to look up:
Arbitrary
Literal
Given you started the sarcastic thread about mass shootings only a few days ago, I imagined you could figure all of this out.
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As I said a few posts above the number is arbitrary.[/b] I literally spouted off a dismally small number for the comparison to the low percentile on mass shooters and mass shootings victims. Wipe the tears from your yes, allow the red to draw away from your cheeks, and learn to read. No one with any common sense would take the number literally, and I even clarified as much.
Words for you to look up:
Arbitrary
Literal
Given you started the sarcastic thread about mass shootings only a few days ago, I imagined you could figure all of this out.
LOL - how convenient
OK give me an actual number that defines how mass shootings are an anomalous event in this country
Try to keep in mind the "% of population" angle is your premise
We know they happen on virtually a daily basis but I guess in your mind if they don't happen everywhere and every day then they are an anomaly
I'm looking at the actual events and see they happen on a virtually a daily basis, thus are common events in this country
I have no doubt one of these common yet anomalous events will happen again soon
What do you think?
Looks like 3 anomalies happened yesterday
What a surprise. Sure didn't expect that
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LOL - how convenient
OK give me an actual number that defines how mass shootings are an anomalous event in this country
Try to keep in mind the "% of population" angle is your premise
We know they happen on virtually a daily basis but I guess in your mind if they don't happen everywhere and every day then they are an anomaly
I'm looking at the actual events and see they happen on a virtually a daily basis, thus are common events in this country
I have no doubt one of these common yet anomalous events will happen again soon
What do you think?
Looks like 3 anomalies happened yesterday
What a surprise. Sure didn't expect that
There is no exact number for anomalies. Sorry, I'm not dumbing myself down to provide you one. Anyone viewing this, including yourself, knows they fit the very definition that you provided.
And as I stated, if guns are the common denominator of these events, there is also another common denominator involved in almost every one. I don't hear any talk of banning that common denominator.
I will repeat once again, in a population of 320 million, anomalies appear to happen frequently.....thus my lottery example. Would you say lottery winning is common place?
You don't get to direct the conversation in your ridiculous direction to save face. I'm the one in charge here and you are grasping at straws
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There is no exact number for anomalies. Sorry, I'm not dumbing myself down to provide you one. Anyone viewing this, including yourself, knows they fit the very definition that you provided.
And as I stated, if guns are the common denominator of these events, there is also another common denominator involved in almost every one. I don't hear any talk of banning that common denominator.
I will repeat once again, in a population of 320 million, anomalies appear to happen frequently.....thus my lottery example. Would you say lottery winning is common place?
You don't get to direct the conversation in your ridiculous direction to save face. I'm the one in charge here and you are grasping at straws
so basically you can't specifically define the terms of your own premise....how convenient.
my premise is that gun violence is a daily occurrence in this country and mass shootings (defined as 4 or more people shot or killed) is an almost daily occurence thus a common place event i.e. not unusual or out of the ordinary. I've provided you a link to verify this is a daily or near daily occurrence so you don't have to take my word for it.
If you want to call them "anomalous" based on a % of population yet are unable to provide the % where anomalous actually starts or ends that's fine. It's a good way to claim you can't actually substantiate you premise while contining to claim it's true.
I'm sure one of these rare and infrequent (aka anomalous) events will happen yet again in the next few days.
Of course, when it happens I will look at it as another normal and everyday occurrence in this country and just add it to the list
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so basically you can't specifically define the terms of your own premise....how convenient.
my premise is that gun violence is a daily occurrence in this country and mass shootings (defined as 4 or more people shot or killed) is an almost daily occurence thus a common place event i.e. not unusual or out of the ordinary. I've provided you a link to verify this is a daily or near daily occurrence so you don't have to take my word for it.
If you want to call them "anomalous" based on a % of population yet are unable to provide the % where anomalous actually starts or ends that's fine. It's a good way to claim you can't actually substantiate you premise while contining to claim it's true.
I'm sure one of these rare and infrequent (aka anomalous) events will happen yet again in the next few days.
Of course, when it happens I will look at it as another normal and everyday occurrence in this country and just add it to the list
You do realize you have sunken low enough that you are trying to debate the definition of the word anomaly. I understand that you likely didn't know what it meant until I used it and you subsequently looked it up, but you actually looked up/provided the definition. Now that you know what it means, you are just being stubborn in hopes to not look like a complete idiot, yet in doing so, that is exactly what you like. There is no set number assigned to an anomaly but any honest person would recognize that we'll below 1% represents just that. Then again, you haven't ever proven to be honest.
Where do anomalies begin and end......oh boy. Desperation in its truest form
One of these rare and infrequent events will likely occur, probably in a low income black neighborhood. It will be important because it happens to human beings, and no matter how small the percentage, we will take it seriously. Just as the Islamic terrorist represent the anomalies of their religon, yet we still make a big deal about it.
This all stemmed from your sarcastic thread knocking Republican views, wherein you said they are normal occurrences so we will therefore do nothing about them. Your premise is dead wrong. They still occur to only a very small portion of the population, and each time they are tragedy. However, we aren't going to knee jerk over a few anomalies and deprive an entire country of its right to bear arms as a result of well less than 1% of the population.
If that is the case, we better start banning a whole lot of things, starting with water. Drownings are a serious problem
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You do realize you have sunken low enough that you are trying to debate the definition of the word anomaly. I understand that you likely didn't know what it meant until I used it and you subsequently looked it up, but you actually looked up/provided the definition. Now that you know what it means, you are just being stubborn in hopes to not look like a complete idiot, yet in doing so, that is exactly what you like. There is no set number assigned to an anomaly but any honest person would recognize that we'll below 1% represents just that. Then again, you haven't ever proven to be honest.
Where do anomalies begin and end......oh boy. Desperation in its truest form
One of these rare and infrequent events will likely occur, probably in a low income black neighborhood. It will be important because it happens to human beings, and no matter how small the percentage, we will take it seriously. Just as the Islamic terrorist represent the anomalies of their religon, yet we still make a big deal about it.
This all stemmed from your sarcastic thread knocking Republican views, wherein you said they are normal occurrences so we will therefore do nothing about them. Your premise is dead wrong. They still occur to only a very small portion of the population, and each time they are tragedy. However, we aren't going to knee jerk over a few anomalies and deprive an entire country of its right to bear arms as a result of well less than 1% of the population.
If that is the case, we better start banning a whole lot of things, starting with water. Drownings are a serious problem
Debate it?
I've asked you to define it since you're the one who brought it up because you choose to look at shootings based on population rather than events
First you refuse to define it and then you say it's .00000001% and then you say that's just an arbritray example
Even though of course that example comes out to be less than a single person (i.e mass shooting would have to happen to less than 1 person to be considered an anomoly by the # you provided)
Why did you give that figure and then say it's only an "arbitrary" number
Let's look at abortions
By your standards I assume you agree they are an anomaly
The CDC reported that there were 699k abortions in 2012
Let's call that 700k and let's say there are 130,000,000 women in America who could potentially get pregnant (this is a 2007 figure so surely higher now given the increase in population)
700,000 / 130,000,000 = .005
So abortions are an anomaly too right?
How about cancer
The American Cancer society projected 589k cancer deaths in 2015
Let's call that 600k and divide it by 320,000,000
the answer is .00000018
Wow, cancer is an anomaly too
Lots of anomolies when you just look at gross population?
pretty convenient
BTW your arbritrary # was even much lower because you added a % sign. Ror exmaple .01% is .0001
so your .00000001% is .0000000001
but that's just an arbitrary # and doesn't actually apply to the argument you were trying to make....right
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Debate it?
I've asked you to define it since you're the one who brought it up because you choose to look at shootings based on population rather than events
First you refuse to define it and then you say it's .00000001% and then you say that's just an arbritray example
Even though of course that example comes out to be less than a single person (i.e mass shooting would have to happen to less than 1 person to be considered an anomoly by the # you provided)
Why did you give that figure and then say it's only an "arbitrary" number
Let's look at abortions
By your standards I assume you agree they are an anomaly
The CDC reported that there were 699k abortions in 2012
Let's call that 700k and let's say there are 130,000,000 women in America who could potentially get pregnant (this is a 2007 figure so surely higher now given the increase in population)
700,000 / 130,000,000 = .005
So abortions are an anomaly too right?
How about cancer
The American Cancer society projected 589k cancer deaths in 2015
Let's call that 600k and divide it by 320,000,000
the answer is .00000018
Wow, cancer is an anomaly too
Lots of anomolies when you just look at gross population?
pretty convenient
BTW your arbritrary # was even much lower because you added a % sign. Ror exmaple .01% is .0001
so your .00000001% is .0000000001
but that's just an arbitrary # and doesn't actually apply to the argument you were trying to make....right
Yep, abortions and cancer are statistical anomalies. Although abortion occurs at a much higher rate than mass shootings, they are still outliers versus the norm. Abortion is an issue because of Christians and cancer is an issue because all life is considered valuable, just as I stated in your mass shooting example.
You provided the definition of anomaly, so I'm not going to redefine it for you or try to quantify it for you. If you think 0.00010375% doesn't qualify as an anomaly, then you are stupider than I thought. I did the math for you based off your own mass shooting page, and that's your percentage of mass shootings pertaining to the population in 2015.
That isn't an arbitrary number. That is a real one for you and if you had done the math yourself, you would have known the number was really low.
If you would like, I can help you go over the greater than 2 syllable words in the anomaly definition
Try again, grasping at strawman
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Yep, abortions and cancer are statistical anomalies. Although abortion occurs at a much higher rate than mass shootings, they are still outliers versus the norm. Abortion is an issue because of Christians and cancer is an issue because all life is considered valuable, just as I stated in your mass shooting example.
You provided the definition of anomaly, so I'm not going to redefine it for you or try to quantify it for you. If you think 0.00010375% doesn't qualify as an anomaly, then you are stupider than I thought. I did the math for you based off your own mass shooting page, and that's your percentage of mass shootings pertaining to the population in 2015.
That isn't an arbitrary number. That is a real one for you and if you had done the math yourself, you would have known the number was really low.
If you would like, I can help you go over the greater than 2 syllable words in the anomaly definition
Try again, grasping at strawman
I think taking an event and dividing it by the population is stupid
I think I've made that point a few times now
When you do that you arrive at idiotic conclusions
By that standard virtually everything that happens is an anomaly
Like I said previously, these anomolies will continue to happen on a daily basis
Feel free to pretend that something that happens daily is an anomaly and I'll continue to believe that something that happens daily is a common occurance.
Deal?
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I think taking an event and dividing it by the population is stupid
I think I've made that point a few times now
When you do that you arrive at idiotic conclusions
By that standard virtually everything that happens is an anomaly
Like I said previously, these anomolies will continue to happen on a daily basis
Feel free to pretend that something that happens daily is an anomaly and I'll continue to believe that something that happens daily is a common occurance.
Deal?
Death happens to 100% of the population. I already pointed that out to you. I'm sorry that statistical analysis isn't your Forte and you don't want to admit it's an anomaly, but it is. I doubt math is the only thing you are awful at, so don't feel bad. In fact, you are pretty weak at debate as this thread and previous ones have shown. It's why you never take a stance on issues, and only take jabs from the side lines
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Death happens to 100% of the population. I already pointed that out to you. I'm sorry that statistical analysis isn't your Forte and you don't want to admit it's an anomaly, but it is. I doubt math is the only thing you are awful at, so don't feel bad. In fact, you are pretty weak at debate as this thread and previous ones have shown. It's why you never take a stance on issues, and only take jabs from the side lines
Straw getting mauled in this thread
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Death happens to 100% of the population. I already pointed that out to you. I'm sorry that statistical analysis isn't your Forte and you don't want to admit it's an anomaly, but it is. I doubt math is the only thing you are awful at, so don't feel bad. In fact, you are pretty weak at debate as this thread and previous ones have shown. It's why you never take a stance on issues, and only take jabs from the side lines
You're forgetting to apply the idiotic "iwantmass fallacy" which is basically a derivative of a cheesy sales techinique known as "reduce to the ridiculous"
You take the disturbing fact that bothers you and you frame it in a way that minimizes it so that it no longer bothers you
Let's take your example of death
The average life span in the US is ~ 78 years which is 28,470 days
You only die on 1 day out of those 28,470 days which is .000035
Clearly death is an anomalous event
Now one might say that death happens every day on this planet and therefore is the exact opposite of an anomalous event which is defined as something which is "irregular, inconsistent, aberration, rarity" etc....
but again, just apply the iwantmass fallacy and you can cleary see it's an anomaly
mass shootings (defined as 4 or more people injured or killed) happen on a virtually daily basis in this country but all you have to do is take the number of shooting divided by the number of people and bingo bango they become an anomaly
sames goes for drunk driving deaths, cancer, abortion,etc..
anomalies one and all
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You're forgetting to apply the idiotic "iwantmass fallacy" which is basically a derivative of a cheesy sales techinique known as "reduce to the ridiculous"
You take the disturbing fact that bothers you and you frame it in a way that minimizes it so that it no longer bothers you
Let's take your example of death
The average life span in the US is ~ 78 years which is 28,470 days
You only die on 1 day out of those 28,470 days which is .000035
Clearly death is an anomalous event
Now one might say that death happens every day on this planet and therefore is the exact opposite of an anomalous event which is defined as something which is "irregular, inconsistent, aberration, rarity" etc....
but again, just apply the iwantmass fallacy and you can cleary see it's an anomaly
mass shootings (defined as 4 or more people injured or killed) happen on a virtually daily basis in this country but all you have to do is take the number of shooting divided by the number of people and bingo bango they become an anomaly
sames goes for drunk driving deaths, cancer, abortion,etc..
anomalies one and all
Wrong again, dumb dick. You only die once because it kinda eliminates opportunity to happen again. It still happens to 100% of the entire population. It doesn't only happen every day on this planet. In the US alone, there are multiple deaths per minute. Care to guess how many mass shootings occur per minute?
In summary, deaths happen to 100% of the population, multiple times per minute. We are lucky to see 1 mass shooting per day, and it happens to a scarce amount of the population.
Don't you ever revive a thread again after a week of using your tiny brain with such weak nonsense, sissy
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Wrong again, dumb dick. You only die once because it kinda eliminates opportunity to happen again. It still happens to 100% of the entire population. It doesn't only happen every day on this planet. In the US alone, there are multiple deaths per minute. Care to guess how many mass shootings occur per minute?
In summary, deaths happen to 100% of the population, multiple times per minute. We are lucky to see 1 mass shooting per day, and it happens to a scarce amount of the population.
Don't you ever revive a thread again after a week of using your tiny brain with such weak nonsense, sissy
I'm just applying your premise dipshit
death = the event
death / days of life makes death anomaly in relation to life
sorry you don't like your own premise
hey, have you noticed how many "anomalous" mass shootings have happened since last week
weird how these rare and irregular anomalies keep happening on a regular basis
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I'm just applying your premise dipshit
death = the event
death / days of life makes death anomaly in relation to life
sorry you don't like your own premise
hey, have you noticed how many "anomalous" mass shootings have happened since last week
weird how these rare and irregular anomalies keep happening on a regular basis
No, that isn't remotely what you did and it's clear that you are grasping at straws as usual. I didn't expect you to link the numbers of death per minute in the US as opposed to the number of mass shootings pertaining minute. While we are at it, I will assume that deaths occur more in 1 minute than mass shootings do In 1 day, possibly even 1 week on most occasions.
These rare and irregular events are just that, but as explained to you earlier multiple times, in a sample body of 320 million.....you get more anomalies on a daily basis.
Your stupidity isn't an anomaly. You demonstrated multiple instances of it in this thread alone. I don't know why inferior people like you try to obtain some sort of superiority on the Internet. You can't win a debate in real life, so don't try it here. In fact if this was real life, I would likely slap you in the face, as if you were 240, while you stuttered for your next weak response
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No, that isn't remotely what you did and it's clear that you are grasping at straws as usual. I didn't expect you to link the numbers of death per minute in the US as opposed to the number of mass shootings pertaining minute. While we are at it, I will assume that deaths occur more in 1 minute than mass shootings do In 1 day, possibly even 1 week on most occasions.
These rare and irregular events are just that, but as explained to you earlier multiple times, in a sample body of 320 million.....you get more anomalies on a daily basis.
Your stupidity isn't an anomaly. You demonstrated multiple instances of it in this thread alone. I don't know why inferior people like you try to obtain some sort of superiority on the Internet. You can't win a debate in real life, so don't try it here. In fact if this was real life, I would likely slap you in the face, as if you were 240, while you stuttered for your next weak response
again, you're missing the point of your own fallacy
event / x (pick whatever reference makes you feel good) and you've got your anomaly
so we can take mass shootings which happen not only a daily basis but often multiple times a day and pretend these are Rare, Infrequent and Irregular and thus pretend they are an anomaly
Let's look at the last few days
July 16th was an unusually bad day for anomalies.
These rare and infrequent mass shootings happened in 5 separate places in this country in one day
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again, you're missing the point of your own fallacy
event / x (pick whatever reference makes you feel good) and you've got your anomaly
so we can take mass shootings which happen not only a daily basis but often multiple times a day and pretend these are Rare, Infrequent and Irregular and thus pretend they are an anomaly
Let's look at the last few days
July 16th was an unusually bad day for anomalies.
These rare and infrequent mass shootings happened in 5 separate places in this country in one day
Yep, 5 times amongst 320 million people. We've confirmed you aren't smart, but what's hard.to understand about that?
With your own chart, you've provided an instance of something that doesn't even happen every day in a population of 320 million people.....
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Yep, 5 times amongst 320 million people. We've confirmed you aren't smart, but what's hard.to understand about that?
With your own chart, you've provided an instance of something that doesn't even happen every day in a population of 320 million people.....
We've been over it many times now
the formula for the "iwantmass fallacy" is to take the event and divide by your choice of "x" and then you make yourself feel better by pretending it's not a common event even though it happens daily and sometimes multiple times a day
I wonder how many anomalies will happen today
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We've been over it many times now
the formula for the "iwantmass fallacy" is to take the event and divide by your choice of "x" and then you make yourself feel better by pretending it's not a common event even though it happens daily and sometimes multiple times a day
I wonder how many anomalies will happen today
It does not happen daily, dipshit. Your own abbreviated chart has at least 1 day it didn't happen. It isn't my fallacy, it's statistical analysis of a population. You need to stick to nitpicking coach's comments. The only one needing to make himself feel better is you, after the constant beating you've taken in this thread. I'm winning and I always do with you. I don't need to feel better. You are the person that sunk to low enough desperation to try and get me to pin an anomaly down to an exact numerical range. You literally have no cards left to play.
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It does not happen daily, dipshit. Your own abbreviated chart has at least 1 day it didn't happen. It isn't my fallacy, it's statistical analysis of a population. You need to stick to nitpicking coach's comments. The only one needing to make himself feel better is you, after the constant beating you've taken in this thread. I'm winning and I always do with you. I don't need to feel better. You are the person that sunk to low enough desperation to try and get me to pin an anomaly down to an exact numerical range. You literally have no cards left to play.
LOL - well I've said almost daily many times too but if you want to hang your hat on that I'm fine with that.
Maybe we should tweek the "iwantmass fallacy" to number of shootings / number of days in a year.
Given that anomalies are by definition rare, infrequent and irregular I guess we don't want to use that permutation of the formula.
I guess the new definition of an anomaly is something that happens almost daily and also sometimes happens more than once a day.
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LOL - well I've said almost daily many times too but if you want to hang your hat on that I'm fine with that.
Maybe we should tweek the "iwantmass fallacy" to number of shootings / number of days in a year.
Given that anomalies are by definition rare, infrequent and irregular I guess we don't want to use that permutation of the formula.
I guess the new definition of an anomaly is something that happens almost daily and also sometimes happens more than once a day.
At this point, you are just hoping to get the last word because you've been made to look full retard. Not gonna happen. You won't get 1 fragment of victory from this. I've annihilated you in every fashion possible. I'm sorry you didn't know what an anomaly is. You also didn't know what your screen name meant at 1 point until I made you look like an ass on that too.
It isn't my fallacy. It is the use of the word in its proper context, something that seems to trouble you. No one viewing this thread thinks you are even in the game. If you read this thread from an outside view and didn't know it was your words, you would wonder who the retard is that doesn't know what an anomaly here.
Mass murders are and have always been anomalies. They will never be common place. They are newsworthy because they are tragic. Outside of that, they happen in no regular capacity, given the population.
I can make you look pathetic as long as you are willing to take the abuse.
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At this point, you are just hoping to get the last word because you've been made to look full retard. Not gonna happen. You won't get 1 fragment of victory from this. I've annihilated you in every fashion possible. I'm sorry you didn't know what an anomaly is. You also didn't know what your screen name meant at 1 point until I made you look like an ass on that too.
It isn't my fallacy. It is the use of the word in its proper context, something that seems to trouble you. No one viewing this thread thinks you are even in the game. If you read this thread from and didn't know it was your words, you would wonder who the retard is that doesn't know what an anomaly here.
Mass murders are and have always been anomalies. They will never be common place. They are newsworthy because they are tragic. Outside of that, they happen in no regular capacity, given the population.
I can make you look pathetic as long as you are willing to take the abuse.
yeah, I totally agree with you
something that happens amost daily and often several times a day is exactly what I would consider to be irregular, infrequent, a rarity and a quirk
makes perfect sense
When you ask a person for an example of an anomaly they might say a 2 headed cow or a something like that but when they ask you you'll offer the example of a shooting event in the US where more than 4 people are shot
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yeah, I totally agree with you
something that happens amost daily and often several times a day is exactly what I would consider to be irregular, infrequent, a rarity and a quirk
makes perfect sense
When you ask a person for an example of an anomaly they might say a 2 headed cow or a something like that but when they ask you you'll offer the example of a shooting event in the US where more than 4 people are shot
It's not my problem if plenty of people are as stupid as you and politicize the frequency of mass shooting as an argument for gun control. I don't cater to your iq. Something that isn't frequent enough to happen even once a day in a population of 320 million is rare
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It's not my problem if plenty of people are as stupid as you and politicize the frequency of mass shooting as an argument for gun control. I don't cater to your iq. Something that isn't frequent enough to happen even once a day in a population of 320 million is rare
LOL - how exactly have I politicized it ?
I just say they appear to common events in this country
I've even said there is nothing you can do about it.
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LOL - how exactly have I politicized it ?
I just say they appear to common events in this country
I've even said there is nothing you can do about it.
Sarcasm isn't going to save you here. And there are certainly things that can be done about it, but it isn't your liberal push for gun control every time a shooting occurs. Just because liberals choose to buy into the idea that a few anomalies require gun control, doesn't mean we all do. There isn't a gun problem in america, there are a few gun anomalies, but you already know that. They just happen to be politicized when they happen.
I don't care if the last word is the only small hope of victory you get in this thread, it isn't going to happen. You mentioned me by name, and as a result have been made to look like a complete idiot for 3 pages since.
I hope I've encouraged you to brush up on your weak math skills and enroll in an entry level statistics course.
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Sarcasm isn't going to save you here. And there are certainly things that can be done about it, but it isn't your liberal push for gun control every time a shooting occurs. Just because liberals choose to buy into the idea that a few anomalies require gun control, doesn't mean we all do. There isn't a gun problem in america, there are a few gun anomalies, but you already know that. They just happen to be politicized when they happen.
I don't care if the last word is the only small hope of victory you get in this thread, it isn't going to happen. You mentioned me by name, and as a result have been made to look like a complete idiot for 3 pages since.
I hope I've encouraged you to brush up on your weak math skills and enroll in an entry level statistics course.
LOL @ brushing up on my math skills
Aren't you the guy that said an anomaly in the context of this conversation was .00000001% (which is .0000000001)
and when I pointed out this means that mass shootings would have to happen to less than 1/3 of one person based on a population of 320,000,000 in order to be an anomaly you claimed that you just produced that number at random (or more likely without even understanding your own idiotic premise)
So your premise of using the population and your figure of .00000001% yields this result and you want me to brush up on my math?
Regarding your projection of liberal gun control onto me, I've said repeatedly now that these are common events and gun control is pointless. In other words I agree with Republicans on this issue
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LOL @ brushing up on my math skills
Aren't you the guy that said an anomaly in the context of this conversation was .00000001% (which is .0000000001)
and when I pointed out this means that mass shootings would have to happen to less than 1/3 of one person based on a population of 320,000,000 in order to be an anomaly you claimed that you just produced that number at random (or more likely without even understanding your own idiotic premise)
So your premise of using the population and your figure of .00000001% yields this result and you want me to brush up on my math?
Regarding your projection of liberal gun control onto me, I've said repeatedly now that these are common events and gun control is pointless. In other words I agree with Republicans on this issue
Reread the post where you get the 0.0000001%, dumbass. I never said that was in reference to mass shootings. I provided an extremely small number as a reference to the extremely small number of mass shootings. It was an arbitrary number for the sake of the argument, as I stated earlier. It's sad that this is your best hope of winning an argument.
Mass shootings aren't common events. You only know about them because of the media. Have you ever participated in a mass shooting? Do you know anyone that has? Has your city ever had a mass shooting? Most people will never see a mass shooting in their life time, nor will any of their friends/family, or cities.
In 2015 there were 372 If I remember correctly, in the entire US amongst 320 million people. You don't have any connection to any of these other than seeing them on the news/internet. If something were common place, it would have happened to you, in your town, to people you know, etc. It most certainly would happen in your lifetime .
Newsflash, the reason it is on the news is because it's an anomaly, dipshit.
I think we need to add common place to your list of words to research
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Reread the post where you get the 0.0000001%, dumbass. I never said that was in reference to mass shootings. I provided an extremely small number as a reference to the extremely small number of mass shootings. It was an arbitrary number for the sake of the argument, as I stated earlier. It's sad that this is your best hope of winning an argument.
Mass shootings aren't common events. You only know about them because of the media. Have you ever participated in a mass shooting? Do you know anyone that has? Has your city ever had a mass shooting? Most people will never see a mass shooting in their life time, nor will any of their friends/family, or cities.
In 2015 there were 372 If I remember correctly, in the entire US amongst 320 million people. You don't have any connection to any of these other than seeing them on the news/internet. If something were common place, it would have happened to you, in your town, to people you know, etc. It most certainly would happen in your lifetime .
Newsflash, the reason it is on the news is because it's an anomaly, dipshit.
I think we need to add common place to your list of words to research
LOL - Why would you offer a number that has nothing to do with the context of the argument you're trying to make?
Maybe you were too stupid to do the math before you offered the number and when you had the number applied to the very argument you were making (specifically mass shooting / total number of people in this country) you realized how fucking stupid you were and offered the lame excuse that the very number you offered was just "arbitrary"
BTW - thanks for providing the number of 372 for 2015
Now we can at least agree that these happen on a daily basis
So something that happens daily in this country is also "rare", an "irregularity", an "aberration" and "oddity"
Makes perfect sense as long as you're a total moron
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LOL - Why would you offer a number that has nothing to do with the context of the argument you're trying to make?
Maybe you were too stupid to do the math before you offered the number and when you had the number applied to the very argument you were making (specifically mass shooting / total number of people in this country) you realized how fucking stupid you were and offered the lame excuse that the very number you offered was just "arbitrary"
BTW - thanks for providing the number of 372 for 2015
Now we can at least agree that these happen on a daily basis
So something that happens daily in this country is also "rare", an "irregularity", an "aberration" and "oddity"
Makes perfect sense as long as you're a total moron
I offered a hypothetical low number. The real number was provided a few posts later and is absurdly low as well....but you know this. You just hope to ignore it. You are either dense or desperate, more than likely both to fixate on that in the same thread you tried/failed to argue the definition of the word anomaly.
Mass shootings don't happen every day. Your very abbreviated chart shows a deviation from that in less than a week span. The word you are looking for is average. Something that occurs an average of once a day in a body of 320 million people is extremely rare by even the dumbest person's standard.
Nice that you call something common, yet you ignore the part where you can't cite any personal connection to this very common thing. I would have ignored that portion too. I can't fathom anything that I would consider common in my life that myself nor any of my peers, family, or even home town have ever experienced.
I don't imagine anything could satisfy your idiotic definition of an anomaly, given the pathetic route you are going with this. You are a poor loser. Shame on you for criticizing coach, given the way you have carried on and identified yourself as the dumbest person on this forum in the process
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Why don't you provide me a sample body, that meets your standard as large enough, that if something were to happen on average of once a day it would not fall in the realm of common. Clealry, 320 million isn't large enough for something to occur only 372 times, yet still be considered common. Would the global population be large enough, or would that still be common because you don't understand the concept of sample sizes?
Care to repeat the actual percentage of mass shootings, given the population, or do you prefer I do it?
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Why don't you provide me a sample body, that meets your standard as large enough, that if something were to happen on average of once a day it would not fall in the realm of common. Clealry, 320 million isn't large enough for something to occur only 372 times, yet still be considered common. Would the global population be large enough, or would that still be common because you don't understand the concept of sample sizes?
Care to repeat the actual percentage of mass shootings, given the population, or do you prefer I do it?
Its got nothing to do with population
the "iwantmass" fallacys uses that to minimize the reality that these types of events happen on a daily basis and have come to be expected....i.e. I expect another one to happen any day now and won't be surprised when it happens.
The definition of an anomaly offers no formula's or percentages or talk about events vs population
It says something that deviates from what is standard, normal or expected
I've come to expect these types of events to occur in this country on a regular basis (and now elsewhere on this planet too) and apparently you're still suprised and perhaps shocked when these things happen even though they happen on a daily basis
I assume you're also shocked when you learn that someone/anyone has won a lottery. That is certainly an anomally by the standard of the "iwantmass" fallacy yet they happens on a regular basis
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Its got nothing to do with population
the "iwantmass" fallacys uses that to minimize the reality that these types of events happen on a daily basis and have come to be expected....i.e. I expect another one to happen any day now and won't be surprised when it happens.
The definition of an anomaly offers no formula's or percentages or talk about events vs population
It says something that deviates from what is standard, normal or expected
I've come to expect these types of events to occur in this country on a regular basis (and now elsewhere on this planet too) and apparently you're still suprised and perhaps shocked when these things happen even though they happen on a daily basis
I assume you're also shocked when you learn that someone/anyone has won a lottery. That is certainly an anomally by the standard of the "iwantmass" fallacy yet they happens on a regular basis
Winning the lottery is absolutely an anomaly, you idiot, and only a desperate person would argue otherwise. Mass shooting are not common to you, they are not common to anyone you know they are not common to your city. They are not even common to your state. By your stupid logic, if anomalies don't take into consideration things like population, total area, etc; then we can assume so long as something happens daily in all of our infinite universe, it's common place. That is full blown retarded even by your low iq standards, and there is no way a person with any self respect would try to argue that
That is literally your criteria. If something happens daily, In spite of the population or total area, it's common. Go sell your retard bullshit elsiewhere. This is getbig and you've got owned this entire thread. The idea that you somehow think you have any fragment of hope of convincing anyone otherwise is insane
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anomaly
There you go. Webster dictionary actually uses autism as an example of an anomaly. Wanna guess how much more common autism is than mass shootings? I'm sure Webster dictionary isn't good enough for grasping at straws man, but I'll agree with them on this 1
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Straw getting gutted in this thread
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Straw getting gutted in this thread
He is a complete fucking idiot, that tries to seem smart. He is the guy that holds a copy of the manchurian candidate in an airline seat, in an attempt to seem educated and intelligent. Little does everyone else on the plane know that he has a picture book hidden In the cover.
While you were absent, I did this to him one time before and called him out on using a strawman argument. He argued with me that it wasn't a strawman argument. Up until that point, he literally didn't know what his screen name meant. Once again, his sad attempt at seeming intelligent in anonymity.
Let me try his retard hat on for size. The "strawman" fallacy states that something can't be an anomaly and is instead common place, if it happens once a day, in spite of population, area, etc. Up to and including infinite space
What a fucking joke.
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anomaly
There you go. Webster dictionary actually uses autism as an example of an anomaly. Wanna guess how much more common autism is than mass shootings? I'm sure Webster dictionary isn't good enough for grasping at straws man, but I'll agree with them on this 1
And I guess that means you're shocked when a kid is diagnosed with autism
I mean, it's not something you would expect to happen every day
I suspect that a new autism diagnosis happens every in every state in this country every day of the year (well maybe not on Christmas)
How does that autism diagnosis work with your personal belief that an anomaly is something that happens .00000001%
Hey, did you hear there was another anomaly last night in Florida,
2 killed and 17 wounded
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1-dead-wounded-fort-myers-club-shooting-article-1.2724551
I never would have expected to wake up and hear about something like that happening
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And I guess that means you're shocked when a kid is diagnosed with autism
I mean, it's not something you would expect to happen every day
I suspect that a new autism diagnosis happens every in every state in this country every day of the year (well maybe not on Christmas)
How does that autism diagnosis work with your personal belief that an anomaly is something that happens .00000001%
Hey, did you hear there was another anomaly last night in Florida,
2 killed and 17 wounded
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/1-dead-wounded-fort-myers-club-shooting-article-1.2724551
I never would have expected to wake up and hear about something like that happening
Stop trying to cling to a defined number. I've told you numerous times I gave you a arbitrary small number as an example. It makes you look stupider than you already are that you keep attempting to quote something that wasn't said.
Autism is tragic because it happens to children, so we acknowledge it, but it is still an anomaly. We are in no fear of an autism epidemic.
I don't care about a shooting inFlorida last night. A star died 15 galaxies away, you retard. It doesn't mean stars die on a regular basis.
Did you have a shooting on your street, in your neighborhood, your town, your state? No, I didnt think ao.
You still keep trying to ignore sample size. If something happens once daily in an infinite sample size, it's an anomaly. Apparently your concept of context is as weak as your math
I'll keep embarrassing/belittling you because it takes all of 10 seconds. You don't even believe what you are typing are this point
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http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
IF the above links is correct it happens almost daily.
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http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
IF the above links is correct it happens almost daily.
Have you not read this entire thread? In a population of 320 million, you see an average of 1 a day. We've covered all of this, dummy
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http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
IF the above links is correct it happens almost daily.
he already knows it happens daily
actually, first he denied it and then later said it happened 372 times in 2015
math is not really his thing
he's better at gut level emotional responses
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Read the entire thread and 'i want ass' is coming across like a petulant child with only a rudamentary grasp on statistics. In each response he goes off topic with increasing personal attacks. You're frustrating him Strawman. Soon you'll be called a 'commie' or 'anti American'.
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Stop trying to cling to a defined number. I've told you numerous times I gave you a arbitrary small number as an example. It makes you look stupider than you already are that you keep attempting to quote something that wasn't said.
Autism is tragic because it happens to children, so we acknowledge it, but it is still an anomaly. We are in no fear of an autism epidemic.
I don't care about a shooting inFlorida last night. A star died 15 galaxies away, you retard. It doesn't mean stars die on a regular basis.
Did you have a shooting on your street, in your neighborhood, your town, your state? No, I didnt think ao.
You still keep trying to ignore sample size. If something happens once daily in an infinite sample size, it's an anomaly. Apparently your concept of context is as weak as your math
I'll keep embarrassing/belittling you because it takes all of 10 seconds. You don't even believe what you are typing are this point
right, you gave me an arbitrary number rather than one that actually had any context to the conversation
that makes absolutely no sense
and in fact I can see no definition of an anomaly that applies any number. You're the one that introduced that and then you claim the number you offered was arbitray and oddly enough doesn't apply to ANY of the examples you chose to offer as an "anomaly" and thus by defintion unexpected
The CDC says that autism spectrum disorder is diagnosed in 1 out of 68 children
1/68 = .0147
By that standard we have lots of anomolies
Abortion is most certainly an anomaly
According to the National Cancer Insitute ~ 569k people in the US will die of cancer in 2016
596,000 / 320,000,000 = .001863
Wow - so dying of cancer is an anomaly too and so it goes for many other things that happen to small percentage of the population
Being a small percentage is not what's makes them an anomaly
The very defintion you offered doesn't even claim that a criteria much less the ONLY criteria
So you can go on being shocked when a mass shooting occurs, or when someone wins a lottery or when someone dies of cancer or has an abortion or an autistic kid and I'll continue to see these as common place events in this country
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Read the entire thread and 'i want ass' is coming across like a petulant child with only a rudamentary grasp on statistics. In each response he goes off topic with increasing personal attacks. You're frustrating him Strawman. Soon you'll be called a 'commie' or 'anti American'.
I can't even figure out why he gives a shit
shootings happen, on average, on a daily basis and at this point I see them as common events in this country
who would even care about such a statement and want to make an argument out of it?
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anomaly
There you go. Webster dictionary actually uses autism as an example of an anomaly. Wanna guess how much more common autism is than mass shootings? I'm sure Webster dictionary isn't good enough for grasping at straws man, but I'll agree with them on this 1
Thanks for providing this
Did you bother to even read it
It pretty easy to understand and no math is necessary
What I've said all along is that I fully expect another mass shooting to happen in the future and continue to happen
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Thanks for providing this
Did you bother to even read it
It pretty easy to understand and no math is necessary
What I've said all along is that I fully expect another mass shooting to happen in the future and continue to happen
Oh boy. Did you? Something that happens 370 times a year out of 320 million people is unexpected, which is why it is newsworthy and always a shock, and people hold vigils, etc.
I could give 2 fucks what you have come to expect. You have the iq of a down syndrome person.
Just so I'm clear, let's explore your premise:
If something happens once per day in spite of/up to an infinite sample body, it is common
Does that about sum it up? Modify it as you see fit
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Oh boy. Did you? Something that happens 370 times a year out of 320 million people is unexpected, which is why it is newsworthy and always a shock, and people hold vigils, etc.
I could give 2 fucks what you have come to expect. You have the iq of a down syndrome person.
Just so I'm clear, let's explore your premise:
If something happens once per day in spite of/up to an infinite sample body, it is common
Does that about sum it up? Modify it as you see fit
Of course they hold vigils when their loved ones are killed
I assume you're telling us you're shocked when you hear someone has won a lottery or dies of cancer or has an autistic child.
You just can't believe that happened?
I don't really give a shit about your personal math games.
If you personally choose to look at anomalies in that manner that is your choice
Show me a definition that explicity defines the term based on math with explicit %'s as to what is and is not an anomaly and then we'll have something to talk about.
In the meantime I'll continue to expect another mass shooting to happen and won't be surpised when it does
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Of course they hold vigils when their loved ones are killed
I assume you're telling us you're shocked when you hear someone has won a lottery or dies of cancer or has an autistic child.
You just can't believe that happened?
I don't really give a shit about your personal math games.
If you personally choose to look at anomalies in that manner that is your choice
Show me a definition that explicity defines the term based on math with explicit %'s as to what is and is not an anomaly and then we'll have something to talk about.
In the meantime I'll continue to expect another mass shooting to happen and won't be surpised when it does
I would absolutely be shocked if someone in my town/i knew won the lottery, died of cancer, or gave birth to an autistic child. If it were something common, I wouldn't have to rely on an example from the National media.
I bet you are not afraid to go to movie theaters, frequent the gay clubs you love so much, or attend marathons. Because +99% of the time those things operate in a normal fashion, free of mass murders. In fact, as I've repeatedly mentioned and you've continually ignored, you don't have or know anyone with 1st hand experience of a mass shooting. I bet you know a few autistic kids....
You don't get to come here and argue the occurrences of anomalies. Mass shootings are anomalies and your last shred of hope is to quibble over the definition of the word, which means you are dumb or desperate.
What you won't do is have an expectation of a mass shooting happen to anyone you know, in your city, or in your favorite gay club
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I would absolutely be shocked if someone in my town/i knew won the lottery, died of cancer, or gave birth to an autistic child. If it were something common, I wouldn't have to rely on an example from the National media.
I bet you are not afraid to go to movie theaters, frequent the gay clubs you love so much, or attend marathons. Because +99% of the time those things operate in a normal fashion, free of mass murders. In fact, as I've repeatedly mentioned and you've continually ignored, you don't have or know anyone with 1st hand experience of a mass shooting. I bet you know a few autistic kids....
You don't get to come here and argue the occurrences of anomalies. Mass shootings are anomalies and your last shred of hope is to quibble over the definition of the word, which means you are dumb or desperate.
What you won't do is have an expectation of a mass shooting happen to anyone you know, in your city, or in your favorite gay club
I could see from your prior posts that you were confusing your own personal experience with life in general
Just because YOU don't expect them to happen to you is not a criteria from the definition provided
For example, most people don't expect to win the lottery but they are not shocked when they see on the news that "someone" has won it
I don't expect to be killed by a drunk driver.
I don't expect to ever get a DUI. Heck I don't even expect to get pulled over by a cop
But I also know these things happen ever day all over the country and I'm not surprised when it happens
Just because I don't expect it to happen to me and/or I would be surprised if it did happen does not make it an anomaly
same goes for mass shooting
I don't expect it to happen to me but given that it happens on a daily basis I'm not surprised when I see that it's happened yet again
BTW - here's a picture of what I would consider an anomaly
Want to do the math for us on this one and see if it fits (hint - it happens a lot less frequently than a child be diagnosed on the autism spectrum)
Also, I can't believe you would be "absolutely shocked" to find out that someone in your town won the lottery, died of cancer or had an autistic child
Are you serious?
Does your town have 3 people living in it?
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I could see from your prior posts that you were confusing your own personal experience with life in general
Just because YOU don't expect them to happen to you is not a criteria from the definition provided
For example, most people don't expect to win the lottery but they are not shocked when they see on the news that "someone" has won it
I don't expect to be killed by a drunk driver.
I don't expect to ever get a DUI. Heck I don't even expect to get pulled over by a cop
But I also know these things happen ever day all over the country and I'm not surprised when it happens
Just because I don't expect it to happen to me and/or I would be surprised if it did happen does not make it an anomaly
same goes for mass shooting
I don't expect it to happen to me but given that it happens on a daily basis I'm not surprised when I see that it's happened yet again
BTW - here's a picture of what I would consider an anomaly
Want to do the math for us on this one and see if it fits (hint - it happens a lot less frequently than a child be diagnosed on the autism spectrum)
Also, I can't believe you would be "absolutely shocked" to find out that someone in your town won the lottery, died of cancer or had an autistic child
Are you serious?
Does your town have 3 people living in it?
The idea that you have to rely on national media to hear about something speaks volumes to its rare occurence.
You addressed that you personally have no experience with mass shooting, yet you conveniently ignored that you have no connection via family, friends, home town, etc
Drunk drivers happen in your town everyday. You don't have to rely on national media to be aware of their scarce occurence.
Of course that cow is an anomaly. Does that take away from the fact that mass shootings are too? No, it doesn't.
You asked me to provide a specific number to associate with anomalies earlier, which is laughable and not even a trap that a retard as yourself would fall into. I'm not asking you near as much. I gave a premise earlier that seems to represent your idiotic views. You ignored it entirely. Why don't you comment on that?
How many people do you know that have won the lottery? I'm not talking a scratch off for 3 bucks, I'm talking the actual state lottery, powerball, etc. Those odds are usually so low they are equated with being struck by lightning multiple times. I'm shocked that you know multiple people that have won the lottery in your town, or even your state. Care to provide those names so I can verify this. I would know that person's name with no hesitation if it happened in my hometown of 150k people. Not large, but certainly not a farm town
As I stated earlier, I won't even allow your pathetic ass the victory of last word. You are being so juvenile that you are refuting the definition of the word anomaly. That is literally what your argument has devolved to
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The idea that you have to rely on national media to hear about something speaks volumes to its rare occurence.
You addressed that you personally have no experience with mass shooting, yet you conveniently ignored that you have no connection via family, friends, home town, etc
Drunk drivers happen in your town everyday. You don't have to rely on national media to be aware of their scarce occurence.
Of course that cow is an anomaly. Does that take away from the fact that mass shootings are too? No, it doesn't.
You asked me to provide a specific number to associate with anomalies earlier, which is laughable and not even a trap that a retard as yourself would fall into. I'm not asking you near as much. I gave a premise earlier that seems to represent your idiotic views. You ignored it entirely. Why don't you comment on that?
How many people do you know that have won the lottery? I'm not talking a scratch off for 3 bucks, I'm talking the actual state lottery, powerball, etc. Those odds are usually so low they are equated with being struck by lightning multiple times. I'm shocked that you know multiple people that have won the lottery in your town, or even your state. Care to provide those names so I can verify this. I would know that person's name with no hesitation if it happened in my hometown of 150k people. Not large, but certainly not a farm town
As I stated earlier, I won't even allow your pathetic ass the victory of last word. You are being so juvenile that you are refuting the definition of the word anomaly. That is literally what your argument has devolved to
if you're aware of instances of two headed cow births that the national media has not reported please let me know
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if you're aware of instances of two headed cow births that the national media has not reported please let me know
If you can answer me what that has to do with the extremely low percentage of mass shootings, then let me know. One anomaly doesn't cancel out another.
Did you really think citing an even rarer anomally was going to win this for you? I hope you remember that i was the 1 that had to explain to you what a straw man argument was in the first place.....I think you are trying to do it again. I never asked about 2 headed cows, dipshit. We are discussing the rare occurence of mass shootings
Please tell me that you at least knew you were attempting a strawman argument this time
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Just to help abbreviate the idiocy of your argument, I'm going to point out the highlights
1) you desire a specific value for anomalies
2) you argue that anomalies do not consider population or area. So long as something is to occur once per day no matter the sample size (up to infinite), it's common
3) if something happens less frequently than a 2 headed cow, it is common and can not be considered an anomaly
Did I miss anything? That seems to be the complete evolution of your full retard argument
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In which developed country do the most mass shootings occur?
If were going by the standard definition of "developed" I think the US might take the cake
This is after a bunch of less sophisticated countries like
Honduras, Venezuela, Jamaica and about 15 more similar in "world status" (for lack of a better term)
One crazy stat is Suicides. The US leads in gun related suicides.
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In which developed country do the most mass shootings occur?
If were going by the standard definition of "developed" I think the US might take the cake
This is after a bunch of less sophisticated countries like
Honduras, Venezuela, Jamaica and about 15 more similar in "world status" (for lack of a better term)
One crazy stat is Suicides. The US leads in gun related suicides.
http://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/
This article also brings up the point of just isolating mass shootings and ignoring mass murders, which liberals seem to do for talking points
Plenty of other articles to choose from. It really depends how devoted you are to your liberal talking points and how blind you want to be to the facts
That also has nothing to do with how rare they are, given our population
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Silly CNN Headline: Europe on the edge: The new normal
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/europe/europe-on-edge/
The silly people at CNN are making the classic mistake of thinking just because Europe seems to be having terror events on a somewhat regular basis that this is now being seen by some as the "new normal"
Same goes for those wacky French. Just because they've had a terror attack, on average, about every other month since January of 2015 they completely fail to see that these are nothing more than anomalies
They are making the classic mistake of looking at these events based on the calendar by which we all actually live our lives rather than comparing it to the population
Sure, they've had ~ 11 terrorist events in the last 20 or so months but all they have to do is appy the "iwantmass" fallacy and they will see that these are just anomalies. There are 66 million people in France and whether divide that by the events themselves or the number killed or injured these are still total anomalies and basically nothing to worry about.
It's not like the rancher who's cow gives birth to a two headed baby sits around and worries that it's going to happen again.
The rancher knows that anomolies by definition something UNUSUAL and UNEXPECTED (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anomaly)
It's as if the people of Europe don't understand this and are starting see these as USUAL or at the very least EXPECTED events in their lives
I find it really strange that no one in the media has pointed out that these are nothing more than anomalous events.
I wonder why they don't see it ?
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Sounds like a good reason to arm yourself, heavily.
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Silly CNN Headline: Europe on the edge: The new normal
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/europe/europe-on-edge/
The silly people at CNN are making the classic mistake of thinking just because Europe seems to be having terror events on a somewhat regular basis that this is now being seen by some as the "new normal"
Same goes for those wacky French. Just because they've had a terror attack, on average, about every other month since January of 2015 they completely fail to see that these are nothing more than anomalies
They are making the classic mistake of looking at these events based on the calendar by which we all actually live our lives rather than comparing it to the population
Sure, they've had ~ 11 terrorist events in the last 20 or so months but all they have to do is appy the "iwantmass" fallacy and they will see that these are just anomalies. There are 66 million people in France and whether divide that by the events themselves or the number killed or injured these are still total anomalies and basically nothing to worry about.
It's not like the rancher who's cow gives birth to a two headed baby sits around and worries that it's going to happen again.
The rancher knows that anomolies by definition something UNUSUAL and UNEXPECTED (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anomaly)
It's as if the people of Europe don't understand this and are starting see these as USUAL or at the very least EXPECTED events in their lives
I find it really strange that no one in the media has pointed out that these are nothing more than anomalous events.
I wonder why they don't see it ?
They are identified as anomalies. It's why there government isn't shipping out all Muslims, even though these crimes are being committed exclusively by Muslims....because very few Muslims are actually committing the crimes.
But that is a different subject matter entirely, just as your cow argument is. Are you wanting to discuss the increasing rise of violence amongst Muslim extremists and how to combat that? Your mass shooting chart had nothing to do with that, exclusively. It included all sorts of gang crimes, etc.
Additionally, we were talking about mass shootings in this thread, not knife attacks, getting ran over by a truck, or blowing up an airport.
You just tell me exactly which argument you would like me to beat the hell out of you at and I will entertain it. It's clear that you know you lost the argument on massive shootings being anomalies, otherwise you wouldn't be talking about funny cows or Muslims violence being committed in Europe
What isn't going to happen here is you steering the conversation in another direction as a last desperate hope to save face because you look like a fucking retard. I will gladly debate anything you want, but we should probably be clear on changing subject matter
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They are identified as anomalies. It's why there government isn't shipping out all Muslims, even though these crimes are being committed exclusively by Muslims....because very few Muslims are actually committing the crimes.
But that is a different subject matter entirely, just as your cow argument is. Are you wanting to discuss the increasing rise of violence amongst Muslim extremists and how to combat that? Your mass shooting chart had nothing to do with that, exclusively. It included all sorts of gang crimes, etc.
Additionally, we were talking about mass shootings in this thread, not knife attacks, getting ran over by a truck, or blowing up an airport.
You just tell me exactly which argument you would like me to beat the hell out of you at and I will entertain it. It's clear that you know you lost the argument on massive shootings being anomalies, otherwise you wouldn't be talking about funny cows or Muslims violence being committed in Europe
What isn't going to happen here is you steering the conversation in another direction as a last desperate hope to save face because you look like a fucking retard. I will gladly debate anything you want, but we should probably be clear on changing subject matter
Seems like the stupid people of France want to use that lame view based the illusion of linnear time, events and days in the year (you know, how they actually live their life) and see these things happening about every other month and are starting to see them as some kind of "normal"
They're clearly just not as sharp as you to realize when you take the population as a whole these are just anomalies.
In spite of the fact that they've come to expect them and even see them as the "new normal" (which of course is the antithesis of the definition of anomally) they really need someone like you to tell them not to worry about it
Who in their right mind would worry about an anomaly which are so rare and infrequent
Hopefully the people of France will read this thread and start to feel better
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Seems like the stupid people of France want to use that lame view based the illusion of linnear time, events and days in the year (you know, how they actually live their life) and see these things happening about every other month and are starting to see them as some kind of "normal"
They're clearly just not as sharp as you to realize when you take the population as a whole these are just anomalies.
In spite of the fact that they've come to expect them and even see them as the "new normal" (which of course is the antithesis of the definition of anomally) they really need someone like you to tell them not to worry about it
Who in their right mind would worry about an anomaly which are so rare and infrequent
Hopefully the people of France will read this thread and start to feel better
They aren't normal, otherwise Muslims wouldn't have a place in their country. Don't put words my mouth, simpleton. I've never once said not to worry about it. It was actually you and your sarcastic argument claiming to agree with conservatives, saying mass shootings are common so there is nothing we can do.
Then again, I don't know where the occurrences of mass terror attacks, not mass shootings, have anything to do with the initial argument of mass shootings in america. Particularly interesting to me is that you citing these cases doesn't help the liberal argument that America needs more gun control. Gun control sure as hell isn't helping over there.
Pick an argument and stick to it. Your desperation has you reaching all over for information. At this point you aren't even talking about shootings anymore
I wouldn't say that CNN referring to them as the new normal is representative of the beliefs of the common citizen in those countries. I bet most citizens in France don't avoid streets and roads in fear of 18 wheelers mowing them down. Rather they probably have a heightened awareness and are losing their liberal tolerance of Muslims. I also couldn't help but notice it says 11th attack or attempt. How many attacks actually went through, and just to keep this relevant to our liberal argument for gun control, how many people were killed by guns?
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They aren't normal, otherwise Muslims wouldn't have a place in their country. Don't put words my mouth, simpleton. I've never once said not to worry about it. It was actually you and your sarcastic argument claiming to agree with conservatives, saying mass shootings are common so there is nothing we can do.
Then again, I don't know where the occurrences of mass terror attacks, not mass shootings, have anything to do with the initial argument of mass shootings in america. Particularly interesting to me is that you citing these cases doesn't help the liberal argument that America needs more gun control. Gun control sure as hell isn't helping over there.
Pick an argument and stick to it. Your desperation has you reaching all over for information. At this point you aren't even talking about shootings anymore
I wouldn't say that CNN referring to them as the new normal is representative of the beliefs of the common citizen in those countries. I bet most citizens in France don't avoid streets and roads in fear of 18 wheelers mowing them down. Rather they probably have a heightened awareness and are losing their liberal tolerance of Muslims. I also couldn't help but notice it says 11th attack or attempt. How many attacks actually went through, and just to keep this relevant to our liberal argument for gun control, how many people were killed by guns?
They are both deemed anomalies by the "iwantmass" fallacy
aren't you the guy who said you would be "absolutely shocked" to learn that someone in your town won the lottery, died of cancer, or gave birth to an autistic child
I'm thinking your judgement on pretty much everything is flawed or maybe you live in a town with ten people.
I guess since it's not your town you won't be "shocked" but there were 3 more anomalies in this country yesterday
Still though, I have to say this is very UNUSUAL and certainly UNEXPECTED
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They are both deemed anomalies by the "iwantmass" fallacy
aren't you the guy who said you would be "absolutely shocked" to learn that someone in your town won the lottery, died of cancer, or gave birth to an autistic child
I'm thinking your judgement on pretty much everything is flawed or maybe you live in a town with ten people.
I guess since it's not your town you won't be "shocked" but there were 3 more anomalies in this country yesterday
Still though, I have to say this is very UNUSUAL and certainly UNEXPECTED
What exactly is your argument at this point? Of course mass murders are anomalies. You yourself said they are happening every other month in France. Never mind that these attacks don't have anything to do with guns in all/most cases.
I did say I would be shocked to see those things happen within the my town. To which you responded that I must live in a really small town if I don't know a lottery winner. I asked you to tell me the names of the lottery winners that you know, and I'm still awaiting your answer.
Once again, the fact that you have to rely on national media to.identify with any of these things speaks volumes to their rarity.
There is no fallacy in my argument or flaw to my judgment. My argument has made you look like an idiot every time that you post, to the point you can't even stick to the original topic. You are actually childish enough to argue the very definition or context of anomolies, just because you are having your ass handed to you.
You've argued the definition of a word, outright lied a few times along the way, changed the subject to funny cows occurrences, tried to change the subject matter to mass murders in general, and actually changed the local from the United states to not only another country but another continent.
Did I miss anything?
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What exactly is your argument at this point? Of course mass murders are anomalies. You yourself said they are happening every other month in France. Never mind that these attacks don't have anything to do with guns in all/most cases.
I did say I would be shocked to see those things happen within the my town. To which you responded that I must live in a really small town if I don't know a lottery winner. I asked you to tell me the names of the lottery winners that you know, and I'm still awaiting your answer.
Once again, the fact that you have to rely on national media to.identify with any of these things speaks volumes to their rarity.
There is no fallacy in my argument or flaw to my judgment. My argument has made you look like an idiot every time that you post, to the point you can't even stick to the original topic. You are actually childish enough to argue the very definition or context of anomolies, just because you are having your ass handed to you.
You've argued the definition of a word, outright lied a few times along the way, changed the subject to funny cows occurrences, tried to change the subject matter to mass murders in general, and actually changed the local from the United states to not only another country but another continent.
Did I miss anything?
same as it's been since the beginning
mass shootings are a common event in this country
they happen (on average) on a daily basis
I EXPECT them to happen again and again and again
You decided to chime in and demand that your own personal definition of "event/population" is the only way to define anomaly even though you can't provide any source to support that other than your own assertion.
Oddly you also provide the definition shown below which you then chose to completely ignore
The definition of an anomaly that you posted states that it's "something that is unusual or unexpected"
Clearly this means that anomalies are subjective based on the persons experience and perspective
We know this to be true because you've also stated you would be "absolutely shocked" to learn that someone in your town died of cancer or had an autistic child
The reality of course is that these things happen everyday all over the country and most people would not find those events to be "unexpected" much less "shocking"
Get tomorrow mornings paper and go read the obituary section and you'll find it filled with "shocking anomalies"....well, at least to you
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same as it's been since the beginning
mass shootings are a common event in this country
they happen (on average) on a daily basis
I EXPECT them to happen again and again and again
You decided to chime in and demand that your own personal definition of "event/population" is the only way to define anomaly even though you can't provide any source to support that other than your own assertion.
Oddly you also provide the definition shown below which you then chose to completely ignore
The definition of an anomaly that you posted states that it's "something that is unusual or unexpected"
Clearly this means that anomalies are subjective based on the persons experience and perspective
We know this to be true because you've also stated you would be "absolutely shocked" to learn that someone in your town died of cancer or had an autistic child
The reality of course is that these things happen everyday all over the country and most people would not find those events to be "unexpected" much less "shocking"
Get tomorrow mornings paper and go read the obituary section and you'll find it filled with "shocking anomalies"....well, at least to you
I provided context. Population provides context, which you need. You are just trying to omit the context that you don't like, yet stick with the context you do. It would be like saying there are 10 million murders. 10 million murders when, where, amongst what people? It would be an important context clue to say there have been 10 million murders since 1AD (that provides the timeline) throughout the entire globe (that provides a population context). See, you are providing the average per day, just like i'm providing the given population. It is called a complete look at things, and it entails being honest, which you aren't.
I provided a definition that also listed autism as an example of an anomaly, which you conveniently ignored....again....
Here you go omitting things as you see fit. Cancer and autism are anomalies. It isn't even a debate. It's a medical fact. And why did you leave out the lottery this time. You said winning the lottery is common and I must live in a really small town if i don't know a lottery winner. I'm still waiting on you to provide the names of the ones you know. This makes the 3rd time I've asked.
Every single time one of these mass shootings happened, people are shocked. What the fuck are you talking about? The story usually begins with, we never saw this coming from him...blah blah blah. It was the last thing we expected.
I suspect if i read every newspaper throughout our infinite galaxy I can find instances of all sorts of stuff once per day. That means fuck all to the rarity of them occurring, because it lacks context.
You are not a smart person. You've always given as much indication because you never actually state your point. You just go in and side swipe guys like coach and nit pick at their point. Problem is I'm not coach and i'm way out of your league, and this entire thread further confirms it, just like the last time you tried this with me. We can keep going because i like making you look like the dumbest person on this forum as i stated earlier.
And no your argument isn't the same as its always been. You've tried switching to 2 headed cows, mass murders, other countries, etc. Your argument has been an ever devolving pile of shit.
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I provided context. Population provides context, which you need. You are just trying to omit the context that you don't like, yet stick with the context you do. It would be like saying there are 10 million murders. 10 million murders when, where, amongst what people? It would be an important context clue to say there have been 10 million murders since 1AD (that provides the timeline) throughout the entire globe (that provides a population context). See, you are providing the average per day, just like i'm providing the given population. It is called a complete look at things, and it entails being honest, which you aren't.
I provided a definition that also listed autism as an example of an anomaly, which you conveniently ignored....again....
Here you go omitting things as you see fit. Cancer and autism are anomalies. It isn't even a debate. It's a medical fact. And why did you leave out the lottery this time. You said winning the lottery is common and I must live in a really small town if i don't know a lottery winner. I'm still waiting on you to provide the names of the ones you know. This makes the 3rd time I've asked.
Every single time one of these mass shootings happened, people are shocked. What the fuck are you talking about? The story usually begins with, we never saw this coming from him...blah blah blah. It was the last thing we expected.
I suspect if i read every newspaper throughout our infinite galaxy I can find instances of all sorts of stuff once per day. That means fuck all to the rarity of them occurring, because it lacks context.
You are not a smart person. You've always given as much indication because you never actually state your point. You just go in and side swipe guys like coach and nit pick at their point. Problem is I'm not coach and i'm way out of your league, and this entire thread further confirms it, just like the last time you tried this with me. We can keep going because i like making you look like the dumbest person on this forum as i stated earlier.
And no your argument isn't the same as its always been. You've tried switching to 2 headed cows, mass murders, other countries, etc. Your argument has been an ever devolving pile of shit.
yeah, look at me ignoring autism in this post
why have you ingored the definition of anomaly that you posted ?
can you answer that without a paragraph
BTW - try to pay attention
I never said I knew a lottery winner
I said I'm not shocked when "someone" wins a lottery
I EXPECT a winner to be announced for a lottery
right, you gave me an arbitrary number rather than one that actually had any context to the conversation
that makes absolutely no sense
and in fact I can see no definition of an anomaly that applies any number. You're the one that introduced that and then you claim the number you offered was arbitray and oddly enough doesn't apply to ANY of the examples you chose to offer as an "anomaly" and thus by defintion unexpected
The CDC says that autism spectrum disorder is diagnosed in 1 out of 68 children
1/68 = .0147
By that standard we have lots of anomolies
Abortion is most certainly an anomaly
According to the National Cancer Insitute ~ 569k people in the US will die of cancer in 2016
596,000 / 320,000,000 = .001863
Wow - so dying of cancer is an anomaly too and so it goes for many other things that happen to small percentage of the population
Being a small percentage is not what's makes them an anomaly
The very defintion you offered doesn't even claim that a criteria much less the ONLY criteria
So you can go on being shocked when a mass shooting occurs, or when someone wins a lottery or when someone dies of cancer or has an abortion or an autistic kid and I'll continue to see these as common place events in this country
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yeah, look at me ignoring autism in this post
why have you ingored the definition of anomaly that you posted ?
can you answer that without a paragraph
BTW - try to pay attention
I never said I knew a lottery winner
I said I'm not shocked when "someone" wins a lottery
I EXPECT a winner to be announced for a lottery
I didn't mention your thoughts on autism, which is an anomaly, in some other post. I'm talking about the post which I quoted, where you gave the definition on anomaly without the example.
I'm not ignoring the definition of the word anomaly. I'm using it correctly whereas you refuse to accept the meaning because it makes you look like an idiot. That is happening anyhow
Here we go with the lies again. You said I must live in a really small town if there isn't a lottery winner in my town, which implies you are familiar with them in your town.
How prophetic of you. You have an expectation that someone will win the lottery. You are a fucking idiot. by that idiocy, I expect to see a 2 headed animal
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http://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/
This article also brings up the point of just isolating mass shootings and ignoring mass murders, which liberals seem to do for talking points
Plenty of other articles to choose from. It really depends how devoted you are to your liberal talking points and how blind you want to be to the facts
That also has nothing to do with how rare they are, given our population
Replace Mass Shootings with "gun violence"
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Replace Mass Shootings with "gun violence"
That is a whole different discussion and not at all what strawman was talking about, but I will gladly talk about that if he likes
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I didn't mention your thoughts on autism, which is an anomaly, in some other post. I'm talking about the post which I quoted, where you gave the definition on anomaly without the example.
I'm not ignoring the definition of the word anomaly. I'm using it correctly whereas you refuse to accept the meaning because it makes you look like an idiot. That is happening anyhow
Here we go with the lies again. You said I must live in a really small town if there isn't a lottery winner in my town, which implies you are familiar with them in your town.
How prophetic of you. You have an expectation that someone will win the lottery. You are a fucking idiot. by that idiocy, I expect to see a 2 headed animal
I hope you're sitting down because you've already told us you'd be absolutely shocked to learn that someone won a lottery
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/winning-487-million-powerball-ticket-sold-new-hampshire-n620411
Oh, wait you're only "absolutely shocked" if that happens to someone in your town so if you don't live in that town in New Hampshire then I guess you won't be shocked
Sounds like an anomaly is subjective
Hmm..that makes sense, especially when we look at the definition that you posted which is something "unexpected"
I expect mass shootings (as previously defined) to continue to happen so they are not an anomaly to me
I also expect that someone in my town will die of cancer or have an autistic child
For you obviously these very same events are "absolutely shocking" and apparently some kind of anomaly
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I hope you're sitting down because you've already told us you'd be absolutely shocked to learn that someone won a lottery
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/winning-487-million-powerball-ticket-sold-new-hampshire-n620411
Oh, wait you're only "absolutely shocked" if that happens to someone in your town so if you don't live in that town in New Hampshire then I guess you won't be shocked
Sounds like an anomaly is subjective
Hmm..that makes sense, especially when we look at the definition that you posted which is something "unexpected"
I expect mass shootings (as previously defined) to continue to happen so they are not an anomaly to me
I also expect that someone in my town will die of cancer or have an autistic child
For you obviously these very same events are "absolutely shocking" and apparently some kind of anomaly
I did not say I would be shocked if someone won the lottery. In a population of 320 million people, where many play 100s of number combinations per person, it will eventually happen. I said i would be shocked if someone with any personal connection to me, my town, state etc won. You would know that if literacy and honesty weren't weak points of yours. You once again had to rely on national media to recognize a lottery winner.
Anomaly is not subjective. Only an idiot that is losing an argument on the Internet would claim winning the lottery isn't an anomaly.
Why do you provide still shots of the days we have multiple mass shootings in a row and not the 3 day gaps in shootings, as we just saw from the 25th to the 28th. That seems kinda dishonest to me, but that is a theme with you. We are talking about the person that won't admit winning the lottery is an anomaly.
How big is your town? I'm certain given a reasonable size town, these things will happen. I'm also certain you won't have any personal connection, nor will your friends, etc. I didn't say these things don't happen, I said they happen infrequently enougb to be considered medical anomalies, as does any medical journal....
Let's be clear, you are pathetically debating that something that won't happen to, happen as a result of, or be witnessed by +99.999... % of the population is common. whether you admit it or not, you are doing so because it's a liberal talking point for gun control. What you won't point out is that the examples from your list were mostly committed by ganger members with likely unregistered guns...illegally obtained.
Now I understand you won't take ownership of your liberal talking points, because you are gutless and won't take a clear side on things on here. I also understand why you do it, because you are a fucking idiot and what I'm doing to you right now would happen all the time.
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I did not say I would be shocked if someone won the lottery. In a population of 320 million people, where many play 100s of number combinations per person, it will eventually happen. I said i would be shocked if someone with any personal connection to me, my town, state etc won. You would know that if literacy and honesty weren't weak points of yours. You once again had to rely on national media to recognize a lottery winner.
Anomaly is not subjective. Only an idiot that is losing an argument on the Internet would claim winning the lottery isn't an anomaly.
Why do you provide still shots of the days we have multiple mass shootings in a row and not the 3 day gaps in shootings, as we just saw from the 25th to the 28th. That seems kinda dishonest to me, but that is a theme with you. We are talking about the person that won't admit winning the lottery is an anomaly.
How big is your town? I'm certain given a reasonable size town, these things will happen. I'm also certain you won't have any personal connection, nor will your friends, etc. I didn't say these things don't happen, I said they happen infrequently enougb to be considered medical anomalies, as does any medical journal....
Let's be clear, you are pathetically debating that something that won't happen to, happen as a result of, or be witnessed by +99.999... % of the population is common. whether you admit it or not, you are doing so because it's a liberal talking point for gun control. What you won't point out is that the examples from your list were mostly committed by ganger members with likely unregistered guns...illegally obtained.
Now I understand you won't take ownership of your liberal talking points, because you are gutless and won't take a clear side on things on here. I also understand why you do it, because you are a fucking idiot and what I'm doing to you right now would happen all the time.
LOL - you'd be shocked if anyone in your state won a lottery and yet you're telling us that is not SUBJECTIVE (and lets not forget you're also absolutely shocked if someone dies of cancer or has an austic child)
So now you're suggesting that YOUR PERSPECTIVE is the one standard by which we all must determine an anomaly
Go look at the definition you posted
An anomaly is something unexpected
unexpected by who?
Shouldn't that say unexepected by an idiot who goes by the name "iwantmass" on getbig.com
that's the definition you're essentially saying by insisting it's your standard that we must all accept for ourselves
I'm very used to seeing mass shootings stories on the news and I fully expect to see them again and again
thus, they are not an anomaly for me
BTW - I live in San Jose and people in my city have won the lottery, died of cancer and have austic kids and I'm not absolutely shocked by any of those things and expect they will all happen again
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LOL - you'd be shocked if anyone in your state won a lottery and yet you're telling us that is not SUBJECTIVE (and lets not forget you're also absolutely shocked if someone dies of cancer or has an austic child)
So now you're suggesting that YOUR PERSPECTIVE is the one standard by which we all must determine an anomaly
Go look at the definition you posted
An anomaly is something unexpected
unexpected by who?
Shouldn't that say unexepected by an idiot who goes by the name "iwantmass" on getbig.com
that's the definition you're essentially saying by insisting it's your standard that we must all accept for ourselves
I'm very used to seeing mass shootings stories on the news and I fully expect to see them again and again
thus, they are not an anomaly for me
BTW - I live in San Jose and people in my city have won the lottery, died of cancer and have austic kids and I'm not absolutely shocked by any of those things and expect they will all happen again
The powerball winner you posted was the 5th largest powerball win in history at 478 million. Your article also states the odds of winning, somewhere as 1 in 232 million. So we have a population of 230 million and odds of winning are near similar numbers, yet how long has the pot continued to rise because no one wins multiple weeks In a row. That powerball winner was the anomaly, you idiot, which is also it's newsworthy. You don't see the news covering kittens being born or idiots losing arguments on the Internet, because kittens are born all the time and idiots like you lose arguments on the net all the time.
My perspective is certainly not the only one that counts, but no honest person would do as you are now and debate the above situation being the rare occurence.
After Lying multiple times, omitting facts, changing the subject multiple times to cows, mass killing in other countries, etc; you are finally back to arguing the definition of a word. It's sad that your whole argument rest on ignorantly arguing the definition of a word.
Can you provide your list of San Jose lottery winners since there have been so many. I'm skeptical to believe it happens all the time. And once again, we are talking about jackpot winners, not scratch off 5 buck winners
No one said those things wouldn't happen again. I said they happen at a rare rate. I initially thought you were just being stubborj, now I just question your competence and literacy
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The powerball winner you posted was the 5th largest powerball win in history at 478 million. Your article also states the odds of winning, somewhere as 1 in 232 million. So we have a population of 230 million and odds of winning are near similar numbers, yet how long has the pot continued to rise because no one wins multiple weeks In a row. That powerball winner was the anomaly, you idiot, which is also it's newsworthy. You don't see the news covering kittens being born or idiots losing arguments on the Internet, because kittens are born all the time and idiots like you lose arguments on the net all the time.
My perspective is certainly not the only one that counts, but no honest person would do as you are now and debate the above situation being the rare occurence.
After Lying multiple times, omitting facts, changing the subject multiple times to cows, mass killing in other countries, etc; you are finally back to arguing the definition of a word. It's sad that your whole argument rest on ignorantly arguing the definition of a word.
Can you provide your list of San Jose lottery winners since there have been so many. I'm skeptical to believe it happens all the time. And once again, we are talking about jackpot winners, not scratch off 5 buck winners
No one said those things wouldn't happen again. I said they happen at a rare rate. I initially thought you were just being stubborj, now I just question your competence and literacy
feel free to point out my "lies"
the definition you provided doesn't have a math formula or anything objective in it
it's talks about what is "unexpected" which would have to then require someone's judgement (and oddly it doesn't require that to be solely your judgement)
winning a a lottery is a rare event yet it's not unexpected that there will be a winner
If you insist that a thing that is defined as an anomaly is objective and also based strictly in the "iwantmass" falllacy of "event/population"
then simply find a published and generally accepted definition that states that
Can you do that?
How about you provide a definition of anomaly that at least says that it's objective. You'd think they would at least include that term in the definition
For example "an amomaly is an objective classification based on the number of times an event happens divided by the population of the group to which that event occurs. If it happens less than .00001 is the generally accepted cut off point for an anomaly"
You'd think something objective would be clearly defined as shown above and not open to interpretation
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feel free to point out my "lies"
the definition you provided doesn't have a math formula or anything objective in it
it's talks about what is "unexpected" which would have to then require someone's judgement (and oddly it doesn't require that to be solely your judgement)
winning a a lottery is a rare event yet it's not unexpected that there will be a winner
If you insist that a thing that is defined as an anomaly is objective and also based strictly in the "iwantmass" falllacy of "event/population"
then simply find a published and generally accepted definition that states that
Can you do that?
How about you provide a definition of anomaly that at least says that it's objective. You'd think they would at least include that term in the definition
For example "an amomaly is an objective classification based on the number of times an event happens divided by the population of the group to which that event occurs. If it happens less than .00001 is the generally accepted cut off point for an anomaly"
You'd think something objective would be clearly defined as shown above and not open to interpretation
I'm not going to recount all your lies. I've already pointed them out a few times throughout the thread. It usually occurs just before I say something to the effect "There you go lying again." One instance was where you attributed something you said to me. In you we are talking about the person that is losing so badly, that you are trying to pin me down to a numerical value for anamolies. A person like that will never admit they lie, so it would be a waste of my time to reproduce em.
You are pathetic. You are literally debating an event that is the 5th biggest of its kind, that has odds of occuring 1 in 320 million times, yet still takes months to occur, amongst a population of 320 million, is not an anomaly. That makes you an idiot
It's to the point that the only thing you concede to be an anomaly is the occurence of 2 headed cows. So by that parameter, anything that occurs more often than to headed cows, up to and including the 5th biggest powerball pot in history, which went without a winner for months in order to reach that point is not an anomally. Once again, that makes you an idiot.
If you aren't competent enough to understand the definition of a word, that isn't my problem. Blame your parents shitty genetics and your previous educators.
I'm still waiting for your frequent list of San Jose lottery winners. I suspect I won't get that, as you've already ignored the request several times
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I'm not going to recount all your lies. I've already pointed them out a few times throughout the thread. It usually occurs just before I say something to the effect "There you go lying again." One instance was where you attributed something you said to me. In you we are talking about the person that is losing so badly, that you are trying to pin me down to a numerical value for anamolies. A person like that will never admit they lie, so it would be a waste of my time to reproduce em.
You are pathetic. You are literally debating an event that is the 5th biggest of its kind, that has odds of occuring 1 in 320 million times, yet still takes months to occur, amongst a population of 320 million, is not an anomaly. That makes you an idiot
It's to the point that the only thing you concede to be an anomaly is the occurence of 2 headed cows. So by that parameter, anything that occurs more often than to headed cows, up to and including the 5th biggest powerball pot in history, which went without a winner for months in order to reach that point is not an anomally. Once again, that makes you an idiot.
If you aren't competent enough to understand the definition of a word, that isn't my problem. Blame your parents shitty genetics and your previous educators.
I'm still waiting for your frequent list of San Jose lottery winners. I suspect I won't get that, as you've already ignored the request several times
just recount one of my lies so I have a clue if you even know what a the word "lie" means
I'm only asking because you clearly have no clue what the word anomaly means and even when you posted the definition (which is quite simiple) you still seem utterly clueless
here's a link to San Jose lottery winners
http://bfy.tw/70Eh
Not sure why you think that's important. As I've mentioned I'm not shocked when someone wins the lottery but apparently you are so better make sure you're sitting down when you click that link just in case you faint or something
Let me know if you'd like to find winners from the entire state of California
I know that would "absolutely shock" you as well
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just recount one of my lies so I have a clue if you even know what a the word lie means
I'm only asking becauuse you clearly have no clue what the word anomaly means and even when you posted the definition (which is quite simiple) you still seem utterly clueless
here's a link to San Jose lottery winners
http://bfy.tw/70Eh
Not sure why you think that's important. As I've mentioned I'm not shocked when someone wins the lottery but apparently you are so better make sure you're sitting down when you click that link just in case you faint or something
Let me know if you'd like to find winners from the entire state of California
I know that would "absolutely shock" you as well
I gave you an example of 1 of your lies. Your tried crediting me with something you said. I don't have the desire to sift through the last few pages. It's all there just as I said. I called it out a few times
That isn't a link to a list of San Jose lottery winners. That page contains a few winners. Is that it?
Given that you don't think something that has odds of 1 out of 320 million is an anomaly, when autism has a 1 in 68 chance and is deemed a medical anomaly, you'll have to forgive me if I don't take your version of the facts. 1 in 320 million seems like much rarer of a circumstance than 1 in 68.
You didn't know what a strawman argument was and you gave yourself the screen name, and you didn't know what an anomaly is. I think it's time you post a pic of the definition again and go on some rambling rant
I said I would be shocked if someone I had a connection with won the lottery. This is where you are lying again by omission of the facts. Seeing a random person win the lottery out of a population of 320 million is eventually going to happen, as it just did this weekend after several months of no winner. You ignored that part too
We should keep this ball roling. At the rate you recycle failed arguments, we will be back to a stabbing in France in no time
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I gave you an example of 1 of your lies. Your tried crediting me with something you said. I don't have the desire to sift through the last few pages. It's all there just as I said. I called it out a few times
That isn't a link to a list of San Jose lottery winners. That page contains a few winners. Is that it?
Given that you don't think something that has odds of 1 out of 320 million is an anomaly, when autism has a 1 in 68 chance and is deemed a medical anomaly, you'll have to forgive me if I don't take your version of the facts. 1 in 320 million seems like much rarer of a circumstance than 1 in 68.
You didn't know what a strawman argument was and you gave yourself the screen name, and you didn't know what an anomaly is. I think it's time you post a pic of the definition again and go on some rambling rant
I said I would be shocked if someone I had a connection with won the lottery. This is where you are lying again by omission of the facts. Seeing a random person win the lottery out of a population of 320 million is eventually going to happen, as it just did this weekend after several months of no winner. You ignored that part too
We should keep this ball roling. At the rate you recycle failed arguments, we will be back to a stabbing in France in no time
LOL - you know I lied but you can't actually remember it but I'm supposed to know what it is?
How many winners do you need. I don't recall that being defined in the "iwantmass" fallacy
let me know when you can find a definition of an anomaly that actually conforms with your idiotic "iwantmass" fallacy
The only defintion you provided say they are totally subjective (i.e. dependent on expectation)
Convenient how you totally ignore that.
Heck check out this idiot in the UK
He expects another terrorist attack
Doesn't he know these events are anomalies and by expecting it to happen he's violating the "iwantmass" fallacy of anomalies (you know, the one that no one anwhere follows)
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/europe/uk-met-police-commissioner-terror-attack-comments/index.html
Met police head expects terror attack in UK
Stupid Europeans measuring terrorist attack in terms of # of attack / days (i.e. time)
Don't they know time is totally irrelevent in the "iwantmass" falllacy of anomalies.
They are making the classic mistake that everyone except you seems to make
'One ISIS attack every 84 hours' spurs dread and anger in Europe
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/europe/isis-attacks-escalating-europe/index.html
Shit, if these dopey Europeans lived in the US they'd probably look at mass shooting and try dividing them by the number of days in the year and start to seem them as normal and expect them to happen again
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I gave you an example of 1 of your lies. Your tried crediting me with something you said. I don't have the desire to sift through the last few pages. It's all there just as I said. I called it out a few times
That isn't a link to a list of San Jose lottery winners. That page contains a few winners. Is that it?
Given that you don't think something that has odds of 1 out of 320 million is an anomaly, when autism has a 1 in 68 chance and is deemed a medical anomaly, you'll have to forgive me if I don't take your version of the facts. 1 in 320 million seems like much rarer of a circumstance than 1 in 68.
You didn't know what a strawman argument was and you gave yourself the screen name, and you didn't know what an anomaly is. I think it's time you post a pic of the definition again and go on some rambling rant
I said I would be shocked if someone I had a connection with won the lottery. This is where you are lying again by omission of the facts. Seeing a random person win the lottery out of a population of 320 million is eventually going to happen, as it just did this weekend after several months of no winner. You ignored that part too
We should keep this ball roling. At the rate you recycle failed arguments, we will be back to a stabbing in France in no time
BTW - dipshit, I've been on this board for years and have explained many times exactly why I chose my screenname. It was based on watching Republicans using the Strawman argument over and over again on TV and never being challenged on it.
Clearly you've forgotten your own post
You also said you'd be shocked if someone in your town won the lottery or died of cancer or had an austic child
Who's lying again?
I would absolutely be shocked if someone in my town/i knew won the lottery, died of cancer, or gave birth to an autistic child. If it were something common, I wouldn't have to rely on an example from the National media.
I bet you are not afraid to go to movie theaters, frequent the gay clubs you love so much, or attend marathons. Because +99% of the time those things operate in a normal fashion, free of mass murders. In fact, as I've repeatedly mentioned and you've continually ignored, you don't have or know anyone with 1st hand experience of a mass shooting. I bet you know a few autistic kids....
You don't get to come here and argue the occurrences of anomalies. Mass shootings are anomalies and your last shred of hope is to quibble over the definition of the word, which means you are dumb or desperate.
What you won't do is have an expectation of a mass shooting happen to anyone you know, in your city, or in your favorite gay club
In fact you said someone in your town again in this post
What's the lie again?
What exactly is your argument at this point? Of course mass murders are anomalies. You yourself said they are happening every other month in France. Never mind that these attacks don't have anything to do with guns in all/most cases.
I did say I would be shocked to see those things happen within the my town. To which you responded that I must live in a really small town if I don't know a lottery winner. I asked you to tell me the names of the lottery winners that you know, and I'm still awaiting your answer.
Once again, the fact that you have to rely on national media to.identify with any of these things speaks volumes to their rarity.
There is no fallacy in my argument or flaw to my judgment. My argument has made you look like an idiot every time that you post, to the point you can't even stick to the original topic. You are actually childish enough to argue the very definition or context of anomolies, just because you are having your ass handed to you.
You've argued the definition of a word, outright lied a few times along the way, changed the subject to funny cows occurrences, tried to change the subject matter to mass murders in general, and actually changed the local from the United states to not only another country but another continent.
Did I miss anything?
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BTW - dipshit, I've been on this board for years and have explained many times exactly why I chose my screenname. It was based on watching Republicans using the Strawman argument over and over again on TV and never being challenged on it.
Clearly you've forgotten your own post
You also said you'd be shocked if someone in your town won the lottery or died of cancer or had an austic child
Who's lying again?
In fact you said someone in your town again in this post
What's the lie again?
You were incapable of identifying a strawman argument until I pointed out that you were using one in another thread and you actually argued with me that it wasn't a strawman argument. You've also made more than 1 attempt to use one in this thread, so I find it odd that you would have a problem with republicans using them. People use them when their own argument isn't strong and lacks merit....as Republicans will...and as you have multiple times in this thread.
Speaking of 1 of your attempts at a strawman argument, your attempt to use France was where you told 1 of your lies. You attempted to attribute to me the idea that there is nothing to be done about their recent violence and I should tell them there is nothing to worry about it. You literally tried attributing your stupid argument to me. I called you out on it as I've said twice recently.
So it basically sounds like someone pointed out that Republicans were using this argument strategy, and you chose to name yourself after it without knowing what it means. Just as I said earlier, a pseudo intellectual. Go read.manchurian candidate on the plane for the lady next to you to see, dumb dick
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LOL - you know I lied but you can't actually remember it but I'm supposed to know what it is?
How many winners do you need. I don't recall that being defined in the "iwantmass" fallacy
let me know when you can find a definition of an anomaly that actually conforms with your idiotic "iwantmass" fallacy
The only defintion you provided say they are totally subjective (i.e. dependent on expectation)
Convenient how you totally ignore that.
Heck check out this idiot in the UK
He expects another terrorist attack
Doesn't he know these events are anomalies and by expecting it to happen he's violating the "iwantmass" fallacy of anomalies (you know, the one that no one anwhere follows)
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/europe/uk-met-police-commissioner-terror-attack-comments/index.html
Met police head expects terror attack in UK
Stupid Europeans measuring terrorist attack in terms of # of attack / days (i.e. time)
Don't they know time is totally irrelevent in the "iwantmass" falllacy of anomalies.
They are making the classic mistake that everyone except you seems to make
'One ISIS attack every 84 hours' spurs dread and anger in Europe
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/europe/isis-attacks-escalating-europe/index.html
Shit, if these dopey Europeans lived in the US they'd probably look at mass shooting and try dividing them by the number of days in the year and start to seem them as normal and expect them to happen again
Your whole argument and refusal to acknowledge the idea of an anomaly is a stubborn lie. Your initial thread where you said you've just accepted there is nothing we can do is a dramatic hissy fit of a lie. It's what you do
I don't need any set number of winners. I just figured as common as they are it would be helpful to your argument to provide more. You actually helped mine by listing so few....
I don't have a fallacy and continuing to say I do doesn't help your argument. No competent person would deny things happening at probability chance of 1 in 320 million isn't an anomaly. You wouldn't otherwise either, you just literally have lost every other argument you've presented here
When have we ever said anomalies weren't ever to be expected again. Stop trying so hard. Autism happens 1 in 68 pregnancies per your numbers, yet it is a medical anomaly. We fully expect it to happen again. I think you are trying to stick to this unexpected thing way too mich, because it's all you got. Of course he expects another another terrorist attack....eventually.... somewhere.
I think you are confusing anomaly with nonexistent. They aren't the same. Anomalies actually happen
Once again what do knife attacks and truck attacks in France have anything to do with mass shootings here? Also, Europe isn't a country, it's a continent. So you've literally gone from arguing mass shootings in a country to mass violence in a completely different continent. I don't really see where it helps your argument. Do.you need me to explain what argument strategy you are using here?
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You were incapable of identifying a strawman argument until I pointed out that you were using one in another thread and you actually argued with me that it wasn't a strawman argument. You've also made more than 1 attempt to use one in this thread, so I find it odd that you would have a problem with republicans using them. People use them when their own argument isn't strong and lacks merit....as Republicans will...and as you have multiple times in this thread.
Speaking of 1 of your attempts at a strawman argument, your attempt to use France was where you told 1 of your lies. You attempted to attribute to me the idea that there is nothing to be done about their recent violence and I should tell them there is nothing to worry about it. You literally tried attributing your stupid argument to me. I called you out on it as I've said twice recently.
So it basically sounds like someone pointed out that Republicans were using this argument strategy, and you chose to name yourself after it without knowing what it means. Just as I said earlier, a pseudo intellectual. Go read.manchurian candidate on the plane for the lady next to you to see, dumb dick
Go ahead and post it and we'll see who is correct (hint - the answer will be me)
I'm guessing you'll respond by saying you can't remember it now
Hmmm, why no response to my proof that you did in fact say you'd be shocked to find out someone in your town won the lottery
You said I was lying right?
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Your whole argument and refusal to acknowledge the idea of an anomaly is a stubborn lie. Your initial thread where you said you've just accepted there is nothing we can do is a dramatic hissy fit of a lie. It's what you do
I don't need any set number of winners. I just figured as common as they are it would be helpful to your argument to provide more. You actually helped mine by listing so few....
I don't have a fallacy and continuing to say I do doesn't help your argument. No competent person would deny things happening at probability chance of 1 in 320 million isn't an anomaly. You wouldn't otherwise either, you just literally have lost every other argument you've presented here
When have we ever said anomalies weren't ever to be expected again. Stop trying so hard. Autism happens 1 in 68 pregnancies per your numbers, yet it is a medical anomaly. We fully expect it to happen again. I think you are trying to stick to this unexpected thing way too mich, because it's all you got. Of course he expects another another terrorist attack....eventually.... somewhere.
I think you are confusing anomaly with nonexistent. They aren't the same. Anomalies actually happen
Once again what do knife attacks and truck attacks in France have anything to do with mass shootings here? Also, Europe isn't a country, it's a continent. So you've literally gone from arguing mass shootings in a country to mass violence in a completely different continent. I don't really see where it helps your argument. Do.you need me to explain what argument strategy you are using here?
I'm following the definition that you provided
why have you chosen to ignore that?
I'm keeping these replies short from now on because you seem to have ADHD
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Go ahead and post it and we'll see who is correct (hint - the answer will be me)
I'm guessing you'll respond by saying you can't remember it now
Hmmm, why no response to my proof that you did in fact say you'd be shocked to find out someone in your town won the lottery
You said I was lying right?
I have no desire to dig up the thread to identify that you don't know what a word means. You've demonstrated that we'll enough here with anomalies as with your multiple failed attempts to actual strawman arguments in this very thread
You've been incorrect this entire thread, thus changing your argument multiple times.
I would be shocked if there was a lottery winner in my hometown of 110k because there has never been 1. I also provided the full context of that multiple times to include some personal connection. You quoted it the first 2 times and hyper focused on my 3rd quote of which I abbreviated. You providing a Google with 3 winners in a 1 million person San jose. I didn't really feel the need to debate that.
See the next thread. You are lying
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I'm following the definition that you provided
why have you chosen to ignore that?
I'm keeping these replies short from now on because you seem to have ADHD
You aren't following the definition. You are trying to be as Literal as you can with every word of the definition to exploit it to your needs. You know what the word means and you know mass shootings are anomalies, it just doesn't fit your political leanings or shitty debate. You are relying fully on desperation at this point.
It's not my definition. I don't fill dictionaries
You are keeping the threads short and ignoring the rest of that post because it makes you look like a fucking idiot, as you have the whole thread.
Once again, after multiple failed attempted to change the subject of the argument, your sole argument is refusing the defintion of anomaly. You don't think you are winning, I know you arent, and no one else reading this thread thinks you are winning.
I wouldn't respond to the France or Europe thing either if I were you. The sad thing is you already tried it once and felt confident/foolish enough to try it again
How does a person that tries to change the subject multiple times, due to his weak argument, claim that the person dominating the argument has ADHD. I haven't wavered from my original argument at all. You on the other hand....
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You aren't following the definition. You are trying to be as Literal as you can with every word of the definition to exploit it to your needs. You know what the word means and you know mass shootings are anomalies, it just doesn't fit your political leanings or shitty debate. You are relying fully on desperation at this point.
It's not my definition. I don't fill dictionaries
You are keeping the threads short and ignoring the rest of that post because it makes you look like a fucking idiot, as you have the whole thread.
Once again, after multiple failed attempted to change the subject of the argument, your sole argument is refusing the defintion of anomaly. You don't think you are winning, I know you arent, and no one else reading this thread thinks you are winning.
I wouldn't respond to the France or Europe thing either if I were you. The sad thing is you already tried it once and felt confident/foolish enough to try it again
How does a person that tries to change the subject multiple times, due to his weak argument, claim that the person dominating the argument has ADHD. I haven't wavered from my original argument at all. You on the other hand....
Is this your post and is this the definition of an anomaly that you'd like to use
Yes or No
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anomaly
There you go. Webster dictionary actually uses autism as an example of an anomaly. Wanna guess how much more common autism is than mass shootings? I'm sure Webster dictionary isn't good enough for grasping at straws man, but I'll agree with them on this 1
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Is this your post and is this the definition of an anomaly that you'd like to use
Yes or No
Yep, that's it and it's use of autism as an example.
You can refute the definition of a word all you want, just because you lost a debate in horrible fashion, even after attempts to change the subject multiple times. It just makes you look stupider.
It all boils down to you having no leg to stand on so you are actually debating the definition of a word that provides an example, that happens exponentially more than mass shooting. No one thinks you are right here
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Yep, that's it and it's use of autism as an example.
You can refute the definition of a word all you want, just because you lost a debate in horrible fashion, even after attempts to change the subject multiple times. It just makes you look stupider.
It all boils down to you having no leg to stand on so you are actually debating the definition of a word that provides an example, that happens exponentially more than mass shooting. No one thinks you are right here
great
is this the definition ?
just want to make sure there is no confusion on your part
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great
is this the definition ?
just want to make sure there is no confusion on your part
I'm not playing your games because you are a poor loser. Come back to me when you actually have something that resembles a real argument. This is why you are a liar, because you would stoop to arguing the definition of a word because you are too stupid to win an argument based on the merit of its material....because it was a dishonest liberal argument to begin with. It's why I always beat you, because I tell the truth and you don't. That and I'm significantly more intelligent too
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I'm not playing your games because you are a poor loser. Come back to me when you actually have something that resembles a real argument. This is why you are a liar, because you would stoop to arguing the definition of a word because you are too stupid to win an argument based on the merit of its material....because it was a dishonest liberal argument to begin with. It's why I always beat you, because I tell the truth and you don't. That and I'm significantly more intelligent too
there is no game
you've already said you made that post
just trying to confirm that is the definition you're using so we're both on the same page
yes or no
should be a pretty easy answer
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there is no game
you've already said you made that post
just trying to confirm that is the definition you're using so we're both on the same page
yes or no
should be a pretty easy answer
Yep, its the definition that you continue to attempt to misinterpret to cover for your weak argument. I'm not sure which is worse, that you understand this word and refuse to admit it because you are losing, or naming yourself after an argument tactic that you neither undertsand nor can identify to satisfy your pseudo intellectual needs.
Are we going to bring up mass violence in france and funny cows next?
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Yep, its the definition that you continue to attempt to misinterpret to cover for your weak argument. I'm not sure which is worse, that you understand this word and refuse to admit it because you are losing, or naming yourself after an argument tactic that you neither undertsand nor can identify to satisfy your pseudo intellectual needs.
so we agree that an anomaly is something unusual or unexpected
unusual or unexpect to whom?
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so we agree that an anomaly is something unusual or unexpected
unusual or unexpect to whom?
I'll use a word you are comfortable with this entire thread. It is your fallacy in thinking that you hear about shootings via the media on a daily basis is the same as the random events themselves. Your premise is that if you hear about something daily in an up-to-infinite population, then it is common place. So basically, you are saying its not an anomaly for me to see something on the news. That is no representation of the event itself
It is unusual/unexpected for a night club to experience a mass shooting. It is unusual/unexpected for a marathon to experience a mass shooting. It is unusual/unexpected for a movie theater to experience a mass shooting. You get the idea
It is unusual to be a participant at any of the above and expect a mass shooting. No one goes to any of these venues anywhere and expects shootings to occur.
You are too stupid to realize that the event you are describing is the actual event of "hearing about shootings from the media". That isn't the event, that is receiving information for media which covers newsworthy events.
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I'll use a word you are comfortable with this entire thread. It is your fallacy in thinking that you hear about shootings via the media on a daily basis is the same as the random events themselves. Your premise is that if you hear about something daily in an up-to-infinite population, then it is common place. So basically, you are saying its not an anomaly for me to see something on the news. That is no representation of the event itself
It is unusual/unexpected for a night club to experience a mass shooting. It is unusual/unexpected for a marathon to experience a mass shooting. It is unusual/unexpected for a movie theater to experience a mass shooting. You get the idea
It is unusual to be a participant at any of the above and expect a mass shooting. No one goes to any of these venues anywhere and expects shootings to occur.
You are too stupid to realize that the event you are describing is the actual event of "hearing about shootings from the media". That isn't the event, that is receiving information for media which covers newsworthy events.
again
same question
to whom are those events unexpected
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again
same question
to whom are those events unexpected
The event, itself, is unexpected to anyone attending the venue and the venue itself, otherwise no one would go to them
You are a special kind of stupid
I've already told you that you don't get the luxury of the last word. You've lost every single facet of this argument
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The event, itself, is unexpected to anyone attending the venue and the venue itself, otherwise no one would go to them
You are a special kind of stupid
I've already told you that you don't get the luxury of the last word. You've lost every single facet of this argument
so you're telling us that you believe that different people can't have different expections of whether an event will happen or not
you're saying that is not possible?
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so you're telling us that you believe that different people can't have different expections of whether an event will happen or not
you're saying that is not possible?
Not at all. An idiot like yourself will lie about his expectations to satisfy his losing argument. As you well demonstrate, even idiots like you are allowed to have expectations, however unreasonable they may be.
Can you tell me your expectations of where the next attack will occur, since you expect these things. I would like a specific venue. Let's not say I expect a mass shooting to happen somewhere. You've already said sample size doesn't matter, so I will assume you will say where doesn't matter either...up to infinite space
Do you accept that autism is deemed a medical anomaly as seen by pubmed and virtually every doctor that is well studied on the subject?
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Not at all. An idiot like yourself will lie about his expectations to satisfy his losing argument. As you well demonstrate, even idiots like are allowed to have expectations, however unreasonable they may be.
Can you tell me your expectations of where the next attack will occur, since you expect these things. I would like a specific venue. Let's not say I expect a mass shooting to happen somewhere. You've already said sample size doesn't matter, so I will assume you will say where doesn't matter either...up to infinite space
so you're saying it's possible for me to expect a mass shooting event to happen in this country (as I've previously defined in this thread as 4 or more people being shot or killed) sometime in the next day or two somewhere in this country
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so you're saying it's possible for me to expect a mass shooting event to happen in this country (as I've previously defined in this thread as 4 or more people being shot or killed) sometime in the next day or two somewhere in this country
Yes, i expect a person like you expects to see something happen in a country of 320 million. As i said earlier, I expect a star to die tonight somewhere in infinite space. Neither of those scenarios makes you less of an idiot or mass shootings less of an anomaly
What a fucking idiot...but i will keep going because i'm smarter, i type faster, i make more valid points etc. I will gladly let you continue to be a liar and an idiot
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It would be unexpected for you to win this argument. It would be expected for you to lie. It would be unexpected that anyone reading your nonsense agrees with you. I can play with the definition of a word too
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Yes, i expect a person like you expects to see something happen in a country of 320 million. As i said earlier, I expect a star to die tonight somewhere in infinite space. Neither of those scenarios makes you less of an idiot or mass shootings less of an anomaly
What a fucking idiot...but i will keep going because i'm smarter, i type faster, i make more valid points etc. I will gladly let you continue to be a liar and an idiot
I thought we already agreed on the definition of an anomaly
are you changing your mind on that?
If not, then is it possible for me to expect a mass shooting event to happen in this country sometime in the next day or two ?
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I thought we already agreed on the definition of an anomaly
are you changing your mind on that?
If not, then is it possible for me to expect a mass shooting event to happen in this country sometime in the next day or two ?
I've never had any doubts of the definition. Its why I called mass shootings anomalies, because they satisfy the definition. We don't agree with your desperate attempts at bending the definition to satisfy your argument. You can expect anything you want. None of the participants of those events will expect it, nor will the venue itself expect it, nor will it change the fact that these things can't even happen once per day in a population of 320 million. Funny how you don't link your chart during the period of the 3 day absence in mass shootings....It almost seems like you are a liar
Should we talk about mass murders in the continent of europe and how that in no way supports your argument now?
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I've never had any doubts of the definition. Its why I called mass shootings anomalies, because they satisfy the definition. We don't agree with your desperate attempts at bending the definition to satisfy your argument. You can expect anything you want. None of the participants of those events will expect it, nor will the venue itself expect it, nor will it change the fact that these things can't even happen once per day in a population of 320 million. Funny how you don't link your chart during the period of the 3 day absence in mass shootings....It almost seems like you are a liar
Should we talk about mass murders in the continent of europe and how that in no way supports your argument now?
the agreed upon definition says they are "unusual or unexpected"
is it possible for me to expect something to happen that you or some other person does not expect to happen?
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the agreed upon definition says they are "unusual or unexpected"
is it possible for me to expect something to happen that you or some other person does not expect to happen?
It is unusual/unexpected for a mass shooting to happen at a gay nightclub. You didn't expect the Orlando night club shooting, nor did anyone else. The only thing you claim to expect is to see some variety of mass shooting on the national news. That holds no relationship to the actual event. Have you always suffered these comprehension issues and bouts of inferiority?
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It is unusual/unexpected for a mass shooting to happen at a gay nightclub. You didn't expect the Orlando night club shooting, nor did anyone else. The only thing you claim to expect is to see some variety of mass shooting on the national news. That holds no relationship to the actual event. Have you always suffered these comprehension issues and bouts of inferiority?
is it possible for me to expect something to happen that you or some other person does not expect to happen?
yes or no ?
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is it possible for me to expect something to happen that you or some other person does not expect to happen?
yes or no ?
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Is autism an anomaly, yes or no? Answer the question. Or is every doctor and medical published literature wrong?
I've already won the argument 10 times over. I don't have any need for you to dictate it in your stupid direction
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Is autism an anomaly, yes or no? Answer the question. Or is every doctor and medical published literature wrong?
I've already won the argument 10 times over. I don't have any need for you to dictate it in your stupid direction
obviously it would depend on someone's expectation
if a parent expects they might have an autistic child (for example perhaps it runs in their family) then it's not an anomaly
then again, there are multiple definitions of the word
we've been using the "simple" definition in deference to you simple mind
let's go back to your link
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anomaly
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obviously it would depend on someone's expectation
if a parent expects they might have an autistic child (for example perhaps it runs in their family) then it's not an anomaly
then again, there are multiple definitions of the word
we've been using the "simple" definition in deference to you simple mind
let's go back to your link
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anomaly
You are too big of a liar to even answer a simple yes or no question. You don't get to rely on the definition, yet not agree with the example it provides. Additionally, you have proven yourself to be one of the stupidest people on this board via this argument. Then again, you already knew how stupid you are, its the reason you argue on this board and not in real life. The entire medical community agrees autism is an anomaly. It isn't open for debate among people educated in the field of medical science.
You have zero argument and are literally arguing like a child that says "But why" over and over.
Go back to my link and look at the example they provided. You don't get to cherry pick the words based on your needs.
This line of argument has lost you any small amount of credibility you did have on this board.
Additionally, why are you providing a left leaning gun control advocacy site for your reference of mass shootings? It doesn't agree with the fbi database or many other definitions of mass shootings
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You are too big of a liar to even answer a simple yes or no question. You don't get to rely on the definition, yet not agree with the example it provides. Additionally, you have proven yourself to be one of the stupidest people on this board via this argument. Then again, you already knew how stupid you are, its the reason you argue on this board and not in real life. The entire medical community agrees autism is an anomaly. It isn't open for debate among people educated in the field of medical science.
You have zero argument and are literally arguing like a child that says "But why" over and over.
Go back to my link and look at the example they provided. You don't get to cherry pick the words based on your needs.
This line of argument has lost you any small amount of credibility you did have on this board.
I answered your question and even explained the answer based on the definition you posted
what part didn't you understand
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I answered your question and even explained the answer based on the definition you posted
what part didn't you understand
There is nothing that you could write on here that I wouldn't understand. You are the fucking idiot that doesn't even understand his own screen name and have attempted a strawman argument no less than 3 times in this very thread
If you showed this thread to anyone you knew in real life and didn't reveal your identity, they would ask who this strawman retard is
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I answered your question and even explained the answer based on the definition you posted
what part didn't you understand
You are getting tossed around like a rag doll on this thread
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There is nothing that you could write on here that I wouldn't understand. You are the fucking idiot that doesn't even understand his own screen name and have attempted a strawman argument no less than 3 times in this very thread
If you showed this thread to anyone you knew in real life and didn't reveal your identity, they would ask who this strawman retard is
You seem to not understand the definition whose link you provided
It's only 8 words long so kind of hard not to understand
I expect another mass shooting event to happen in this country in the next few days so by the definition you provided that is not an anomaly to me
what part of the definition did I violate with that statement
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You are getting tossed around like a rag doll on this thread
perfectly happy for you to jump in here
do you expect another mass shooting to happen in this country sometime soon or will you be "absolutely shocked" when it happens again
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You seem to not understand the definition whose link you provided
It's only 8 words long so kind of hard not to understand
I expect another mass shooting even to happen in this country in the next few days so by the definition you provided that is not an anomaly to me
what part of the definition did I violate with that statement
i understand it just fine and i also understand the example it gave, that you choose to ignore. Stop attempting to associate me with your incompetency. You are a desperate person trying to tear a definition down to its nuts and bolts because you have had the shit kicked out of you in an online debate. That being said, as i've reiterated, you won't get the luxury of the last word.
You violated the comprehension of the definition.
I know you are stupid, so you don't have to "play" stupid for the internet. I also have plenty of free time, so i won't tire of this.
You are an idiot. Tell us why you can't identify a strawman argument.
Tell us why you've attempted and lost at least 3 strawman arguments in this thread
Tell us why you have no merit for your liberal argument so you unsuccessfully attempt to refute the definition of a word
tell us why you provided a gun control advocacy website for your mass shooting links, that completely contradicts the fbi and most database definitions of mass shootings
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i understand it just fine and i also understand the example it gave, that you choose to ignore. Stop attempting to associate me with your incompetency. You are a desperate person trying to tear a definition down to its nuts and bolts because you have had the shit kicked out of you in an online debate. That being said, as i've reiterated, you won't get the luxury of the last word.
You violated the comprehension of the definition.
I know you are stupid, so you don't have to "play" stupid for the internet. I also have plenty of free time, so i won't tire of this.
You are an idiot. Tell us why you can't identify a strawman argument.
Tell us why you've attempted and lost at least 3 strawman arguments in this thread
Tell us why you have no merit for your liberal argument so you unsuccessfully attempt to refute the definition of a word
what did I choose to ignore
autism?
btw - please point out the straw man arguments
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what did I choose to ignore
autism?
btw - please point out the straw man arguments
yes thats what you chose to ignore.
your funny cow argument, your europe mass killing argument, and this definition argument. none of them pertain to the merit of your initial argument. they are all sad attempts to cover your initial failed argument
i hope you have the excuse of being drunk, otherwise this is pathetic
i understand you are immature and have nothing worthwhile in your life, but i don't go back to work friday and will happily continue to make you look like the idiot that you are.
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yes thats what you chose to ignore.
your funny cow argument, your europe mass killing argument, and this definition argument. none of them pertain to the merit of your initial argument. they are all sad attempts to cover your initial failed argument
i hope you have the excuse of being drunk, otherwise this is pathetic
did I not explain they autism may or may not be an anomaly based on ones expectation
is that one one of the defintions
I asked you if you wanted to apply one of the other defintions and if you do then tell me which one you want to use from the Full Definition that I provided from your link
Explain how the two headed cow etc.. are Straw Man arguments
I assume you're saying the two headed cow is not an anomaly, same terrorist attacks in Europe
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did I not explain they autism may or may not be an anomaly based on ones expectation
is that one one of the defintions
I asked you if you wanted to apply one of the other defintions and if you do then tell me which one you want to use from the Full Definition that I provided from your link
Explain how the two headed cow etc.. are Straw Man arguments
I assume you're saying the two headed cow is not an anomaly, same terrorist attacks in Europe
i have no desire to explain to you what your screen name means. You shouldn't have tried to look intelligent to others by choosing that name. Had you just chose a more appropriate name like 90iq, you would have more honestly represented yourself and not had an expectation that you felt the need to look up to. If it matters, no one respects you or thinks you are intelligent anyhow
You should message the mods for a name change. This is the 2nd time you've proven not to know what your name means
No idiot, I'm not saying they aren't anomalies. The idea that you think that is what would make them strawman arguments is the very reason i say you don't understand strawman arguments
why do you continue to ignore my mention of the questionable website that you choose to get your mass shooting data? Y
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i have no desire to explain to you what your screen name means. You shouldn't have tried to look intelligent to others by choosing that name. Had you just chose a more appropriate name like 90iq, you would have more honestly represented yourself and not had an expectation that you felt the need to look up to. If it matters, no one respects you or thinks you are intelligent anyhow
You should message the mods for a name change. This is the 2nd time you've proven not to know what your name means
No idiot, I'm not saying they aren't anomalies. The idea that you think that is what would make them strawman arguments is the very reason i say you don't understand strawman arguments
why do you continue to ignore my mention of the questionable website that you choose to get your mass shooting data? Y
LOL - so now you're basically saying you can't actually diagram my alleged Straw Man argument
have you noticed the majority of the content in your posts are insults to me and compliments to yourself
self compliments are an interesting debate tactic
if you think the mass shooting info is fraudulent please let me know which ones are false
Do you want to get back to the anomaly topic
Lets start with an easy question
Is there only one definition of an anomaly ?
I thought we agreed on the one we were using but let me know if you want to change it
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LOL - so now you're basically saying you can't actually diagram my alleged Straw Man argument
have you noticed the majority of the content in your posts are insults to me and compliments to yourself
self compliments are an interesting debate tactic
if you think the mass shooting info is fraudulent please let me know which ones are false
Do you want to get back to the anomaly topic
Lets start with an easy question
Is there only one definition of an anomaly ?
I thought we agreed on the one we were using but let me know if you want to change it
Self compliment isn't the debate tactic. It's what you do when you've won the debate, which I did 4 pages ago
I can absolutely diagram a strawman argument as I'm the one that identified em. You on the otherhand don't understand what 1 is or how to identify it. I won't be going the same road with the definition a strawman argument that we have been with anomaly. It's not my job to educate you. As I stated earlier, blame your parents and their shitty genetics on your poor comprehension
Insulting you in no way takes away from the substance/validity of my argument, just as you not doing so changes the fact that you've changed the course of your weak argument multiple times. I can be right and insult you. The 2 don't exclude each other.
You can keep pathetically debating the definition of the word anomaly. No overwhelming amount of evidence would make you admit to your stupidity. I don't expect otherwise. People like you always lose and always do just what you are doing now. People like me that most often times win, are okay admitting the rare exception we are wrong. This time would not be close to one of them.
I'm okay arguing with an idiot that openly admits he will disagree with the entire medical community. 8t just makes you look stupider
Once again, change your screen name
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Self compliment isn't the debate tactic. It's what you do when you've won the debate, which I did 4 pages ago
I can absolutely diagram a strawman argument as I'm the one that identified em. You on the otherhand don't understand what 1 is or how to identify it. I won't be going the same road with the definition a strawman argument that we have been with anomaly. It's not my job to educate you. As I stated earlier, blame your parents and their shitty genetics on your poor comprehension
Insulting you in no way takes away from the substance/validity of my argument, just as you not doing so changes the fact that you've changed the course of your weak argument multiple times. I can be right and insult you. The 2 don't exclude each other.
You can keep pathetically debating the definition of the word anomaly. No overwhelming amount of evidence would make you admit to your stupidity. I don't expect otherwise. People like you always lose and always do just what you are doing now. People like me that most often times win, are okay admitting the rare exception we are wrong. This time would not be close to one of them.
I'm okay arguing with an idiot that openly admits he will disagree with the entire medical community. 8t just makes you look stupider
Once again, change your screen name
great
lets see it
it pretty obvious you haven't got a clue what it means
same goes for the definition of an anomaly
you seem to have no clue what that means in spite of the fact we've agreed on a very simple and singular definition of that word
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great
lets see it
it pretty obvious you haven't got a clue what it means
same goes for the definition of an anomaly
you seem to have no clue what that means in spite of the fact we've agreed on a very simple and singular definition of that word
That is the stance I would take too if I named myself for an argument strategy that I didn't understand. Pseudo intellectual strawman and his faux iq crumbling in this thread. At least we don't have to find the last thread that you proved not to be able to identify a strawman argument. You've proven it multiple times here.
You don't get to say I don't understand a word just because you choose to be stubborn. This is what happens when you choose to represent a typical liberal talking point as your own original point of view on an open forum. People a lot smarter than you will tear it apart and call you out on your bullshit. Then again, you are the gutless coward that is too afraid to present your real argument because this very thread would happen to you more often
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That is the stance I would take too if I named myself for an argument strategy that I didn't understand. Pseudo intellectual strawman and his faux iq crumbling in this thread. At least we don't have to find the last thread that you proved not to be able to identify a strawman argument. You've proven it multiple times here.
You don't get to say I don't understand a word just because you choose to be stubborn. This is what happens when you choose to represent a typical liberal talking point as your own original point of view on an open forum. People a lot smarter than you will tear it apart and call you out on your bullshit. Then again, you are the gutless coward that is too afraid to present your real argument because this very thread would happen to you more often
I'm totally fine if you want to discuss my alleged Straw Man arguments
any time you want to demonstrate you know what that means please do so
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I'm totally fine if you want to discuss my alleged Straw Man arguments
any time you want to demonstrate you know what that means please do so
No, I don't think you are. You've demonstrated that by using at least 3 in this thread and lacking the ability to recognize them. This thread has solidified your place as political forum idiot.
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No, I don't think you are. You've demonstrated that by using at least 3 in this thread and lacking the ability to recognize them. This thread has solidified your place as political forum idiot.
you don't think I are?
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you don't think I are?
Surprisingly, this stupid response is no weaker than anything you've posted the entire thread. If carrying on/debating the definition of a word doesn't qualify as a typical getbig meltdown, I don't know what does
Sober up
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Surprisingly, this stupid response is no weaker than anything you've posted the entire thread. If carrying on/debating the definition of a word doesn't qualify as a typical getbig meltdown, I don't know what does
Sober up
are it ?
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are it ?
oh i see. you don't understand the english language now, and you believe me to have responded incorrectly to your post. you better look again, dumbass
this is just brutal for you...
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oh i see. you don't understand the english language now, and you believe me to have responded incorrectly to your post. you better look again, dumbass
this is just brutal for you...
would you like to start over?
I'll try to keep it as simple as possible for you
if you prefer, you can start by asking me questions
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would you like to start over?
I'll try to keep it as simple as possible for you
if you prefer, you can start by asking me questions
people like you, given your behavior in this thread don't get to act as if you need to keep it simple for people like me. You are inferior. You don't know how to debate, you poorly accept defeat after getting slaughtered, and you continue to make an ass of yourself. As previously mentioned, you don't get the luxury of the last word, no matter how many times i have to respond.
You don't even think you are in the same league as me after this thread. You just have to act as if you think you are. You are a genuine idiot. A person that doesn't understand his own screen name, or relies on lying about the definition of a word for 5 pages doesn't get to act as is he needs to simplify things for others. Any person that you would be capable of simplifying something for would be illiterate, maybe even a small child.
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people like you, given your behavior in this thread don't get to act as if you need to keep it simple for people like me. You are inferior. You don't know how to debate, you poorly accept defeat after getting slaughtered, and you continue to make an ass of yourself. As previously mentioned, you don't get the luxury of the last word, no matter how many times i have to respond.
You don't even think you are in the same league as me after this thread. You just have to act as if you think you are. You are a genuine idiot. A person that doesn't understand his own screen name, or relies on lying about the definition of a word for 5 pages doesn't get to act as is he needs to simplify things for others. Any person that you would be capable of simplifying something for would be illiterate, maybe even a small child.
LOL - your last post is nothing but insults and self congratulations
fucking hilarious
my last post asked if you'd like to start over and I'm glad to do so
shall we start again the the definition of an anomaly.
Let's start with an easy question
is there only one definition or are there multiple definitions ?
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CT passed some of the toughest laws in the country. 13 shot last night alone in one incident. Good job morons w your gun control bs I
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LOL - your last post is nothing but insults and self congratulations
fucking hilarious
my last post asked if you'd like to start over and I'm glad to do so
shall we start again the the definition of an anomaly.
Let's start with an easy question
is there only one definition or are there multiple definitions ?
Insulting you doesn't take away from the merit of my argument. There is no need to restart an argument that I've won 10 time of over. I'm not a Boeing exec. Don't take your fear of confrontation in the real world out on me
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Insulting you doesn't take away from the merit of my argument. There is no need to restart an argument that I've won 10 time of over. I'm not a Boeing exec. Don't take your fear of confrontation in the real world out on me
I'll be glad to confront your lies
Would you like to go back to the beginning and review all your retarded pretzel logic
I actually have a few minutes today to entertain myself with a certified idiot