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Assange Lashes Out At America: “Rigged Primary, Rigged Media, Rigged Candidate”
TruePundit.com ^ | 10/21/2016 | TruePundit
Posted on 10/22/2016, 2:39:05 AM by DEEP_e
"After months of exposing damaging internal information from both the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign, much of which actually points to criminal behavior but seemingly has no impact on the polls, Julian Assange has concluded that "There is no US election. There is power consolidation. Rigged primary, rigged media and rigged 'pied piper' candidate drive consolidation."
"Sadly, it is difficult to disagree with the assessment. That an establishment democratic candidate could endure an extended FBI investigation, in which multiple federal laws were clearly and intentionally broken, and clear evidence of corruption and collusion between the FBI and State Department is mind boggling. Throw in evidence from WikiLeaks clearly linking the DNC to criminal efforts to incite violence at rallies, numerous examples of pay-to-play activities at the Clinton Foundation, blatant media collusion, etc, etc, and it actually becomes quite frightening.
And, while no amount of corruption or scandal seems to sway an American electorate that is intent upon driving the bus off the cliff, Assange has promised a "surprise" for Tim Kaine and the "persecuted christian woman", Donna Brazile."
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But Donald Trump winked at a woman 20 years ago ;)
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Speaking it like it is.
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Speaking it like it is.
Which after Nov 8, reality sounds like :
"President elect, Hillary Clinton"
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Which after Nov 8, reality sounds like :
"President elect, Hillary Clinton"
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This guy is a complete joke. Always has been.
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This guy is a complete joke. Always has been.
You're like the drunken slut that got a facial at the frat party.
At the end of the day, the "joke" is on you ;)
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Assange Lashes Out At America: “Rigged Primary, Rigged Media, Rigged Candidate”
TruePundit.com ^ | 10/21/2016 | TruePundit
Posted on 10/22/2016, 2:39:05 AM by DEEP_e
"After months of exposing damaging internal information from both the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign, much of which actually points to criminal behavior but seemingly has no impact on the polls, Julian Assange has concluded that "There is no US election. There is power consolidation. Rigged primary, rigged media and rigged 'pied piper' candidate drive consolidation."
"Sadly, it is difficult to disagree with the assessment. That an establishment democratic candidate could endure an extended FBI investigation, in which multiple federal laws were clearly and intentionally broken, and clear evidence of corruption and collusion between the FBI and State Department is mind boggling. Throw in evidence from WikiLeaks clearly linking the DNC to criminal efforts to incite violence at rallies, numerous examples of pay-to-play activities at the Clinton Foundation, blatant media collusion, etc, etc, and it actually becomes quite frightening.th
Compared to Assange, Trump and HRC are both saints.
And, while no amount of corruption or scandal seems to sway an American electorate that is intent upon driving the bus off the cliff, Assange has promised a "surprise" for Tim Kaine and the "persecuted christian woman", Donna Brazile."
It is interesting that some people put any stock in what this foreigner, criminal and fugitive from justice says and writes about the U.S. government than they do their fellow Americans. Julian Assange is a native Australian who is currently without a country and who holes up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. He is wanted in Sweden for allegations of sexual assault and rape.
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It is interesting that some people put any stock in what this foreigner, criminal and fugitive from justice says and writes about the U.S. government than they do their fellow Americans. Julian Assange is a native Australian who is currently without a country and who holes up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. He is wanted in Sweden for allegations of sexual assault and rape.
These e-mails aren't just things Assange "writes about the U.S. government"
They are exposing the corruption and confirming previously thought conspiracy theories about our government. I could care less if this was exposing the RNC, DNC, Green party.
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These e-mails aren't just things Assange "writes about the U.S. government"
They are exposing the corruption and confirming previously thought conspiracy theories about our government. I could care less if this was exposing the RNC, DNC, Green party.
-Write or read emails much? It's not like they are Gospel.
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-Write or read emails much? It's not like they are Gospel.
I've read thousands of the Podesta emails the past few weeks.
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Why are people being fired over them then?
EDIT: Like your girl Donna Brazile is about to...
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/43652 (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/43652)
Giving debate questions to HRC staff. MULTIPLE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE!
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I've read thousands of the Podesta emails the past few weeks.
Without doubt you take this stuff much more seriously than I do. Guess it's good that someone does. How has Podesta's emails changed your life? Just wondering...
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Without doubt you take this stuff much more seriously than I do. Guess it's good that someone does. How has Podesta's emails changed your life? Just wondering...
Simple. I'll even put it in her own words too! It has shown me that she thinks
"It is important to have a public policy, as well as a private policy."
It's all "bread and circuses" while she and the other political elites are profiting off of America.
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It is interesting that some people put any stock in what this foreigner, criminal and fugitive from justice says and writes about the U.S. government than they do their fellow Americans. Julian Assange is a native Australian who is currently without a country and who holes up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. He is wanted in Sweden for allegations of sexual assault and rape.
Assange leaks information. He doesnt makes the information.
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Assange leaks information. He doesnt makes the information.
Do you believe these leaks are without bias?
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Do you believe these leaks are without bias?
What kind of bias?
A bias against globalization and corruption? Yes.
EDIT: when wikileaks were highlighting the Bush administration war crimes, I'm sure you were A-Okay with them
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Hillary and Bill both belong in jail.
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Do you believe these leaks are without bias?
No, podesta/Clinton/media seem pretty biased in them.
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No, podesta/Clinton/media seem pretty biased in them.
Submit to the allure of the pant suit and accept her as the rightful heir to the throne.
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What kind of bias?
A bias against globalization and corruption? Yes.
EDIT: when wikileaks were highlighting the Bush administration war crimes, I'm sure you were A-Okay with them
And you'd be wrong. I've never been okay with anything Assange does. If he should kill himself, I'd be okay with that. It is rare for me to such huge animosity towards anyone.
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And you'd be wrong. I've never been okay with anything Assange does. If he should kill himself, I'd be okay with that. It is rare for me to such huge animosity towards anyone.
Alright, continue to live your final days with your head in the sand.
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It is interesting that some people put any stock in what this foreigner, criminal and fugitive from justice says and writes about the U.S. government than they do their fellow Americans. Julian Assange is a native Australian who is currently without a country and who holes up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. He is wanted in Sweden for allegations of sexual assault and rape.
This "guy" will listen and give credibility to anyone as long as their rhetoric is pointed in the right direction... Level 1 thinker for sure
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This "guy" will listen and give credibility to anyone as long as their rhetoric is pointed in the right direction... Level 1 thinker for sure
Not a single email has been proven to be false or tampered with.
Again - read something before piping off
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Not a single email has been proven to be false or tampered with.
Again - read something before piping off
The emails don't need to be false or tampered with. They just need to be carefully selected to tell the story from a biased viewpoint. Certainly, you know there are many versions of the truth which are relatively indisputable.. It's all in how it is presented. Perception is everything.
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The emails don't need to be false or tampered with. They just need to be carefully selected to tell the story from a biased viewpoint. Certainly, you know there are many versions of the truth which are relatively indisputable.. It's all in how it is presented. Perception is everything.
Considering they release 40k of Podesta's and people have been fired over them.
Must not be a false narrative, or we are just presenting them quite well! ;)
If the whole picture proves a different story, why don't they just release everything they have to the public?
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If the whole picture proves a different story, why don't they just release everything they have to the public?
This would be good. Just put it all out there minus the political maneuvering and shenanigans. Most of us are reasonably intelligent. Give us the whole picture and let us decide for ourselves. Those who believe they have special information should just put their trust in the people instead of manipulating them to suit their needs.
Unfortunately, this is probably never going to happen. It requires the collector of information to be absolutely unbiased and not at all swayed by what they believe they can most profit from.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The likes of Julian Assange are definitely not excluded. He's not in this to be noble, he's in it for the same reasons folks like HRC and Trump run for office....all of them are ego maniacs who are out of touch with reality, otherwise known as the average Joe or Jane.
And I bet you thought I wasn't jaded. You can't have lived with this shit for as long as I have and not be tired of it unless you are totally oblivious to everything outside yourself.
The sparing over who is going to win or who deserves to win the Presidential election on November 8th is nothing more than a distraction from the awful truth, which is that it doesn't really matter one way or the other. Four years from now we'll start all over again, pretending like our thoughts and comments make any difference in this political hell we live in.
Having ranted about all of the above, if anyone knows a better way, maybe it is time they spoke up. This seems to be the best we have and we appear to be stuck with it. We are all just fucked!
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Do you believe these leaks are without bias?
You obviously have no idea how stupid that sounds.
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You obviously have no idea how stupid that sounds.
You're right I don't. But then, I don't have your stupid perception.
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WikiLeaks says email publication servers under targeted DoS attack since last night
https://www.rt.com/news/365576-wikileaks-servers-dos-attack/ (https://www.rt.com/news/365576-wikileaks-servers-dos-attack/)
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Eves dropping on opinions = big stuff indeed. Do let us hang on their every life altering word as if the future depends on it. ::)
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Assange Statement on the US-Election
8 November 2016
By Julian Assange
In recent months, WikiLeaks and I personally have come under enormous pressure to stop publishing what the Clinton campaign says about itself to itself. That pressure has come from the campaign’s allies, including the Obama administration, and from liberals who are anxious about who will be elected US President.
On the eve of the election, it is important to restate why we have published what we have.
The right to receive and impart true information is the guiding principle of WikiLeaks – an organization that has a staff and organizational mission far beyond myself. Our organization defends the public’s right to be informed.
This is why, irrespective of the outcome of the 2016 US Presidential election, the real victor is the US public which is better informed as a result of our work.
The US public has thoroughly engaged with WikiLeaks’ election related publications which number more than one hundred thousand documents. Millions of Americans have poured over the leaks and passed on their citations to each other and to us. It is an open model of journalism that gatekeepers are uncomfortable with, but which is perfectly harmonious with the First Amendment.
We publish material given to us if it is of political, diplomatic, historical or ethical importance and which has not been published elsewhere. When we have material that fulfills this criteria, we publish. We had information that fit our editorial criteria which related to the Sanders and Clinton campaign (DNC Leaks) and the Clinton political campaign and Foundation (Podesta Emails). No-one disputes the public importance of these publications. It would be unconscionable for WikiLeaks to withhold such an archive from the public during an election.
At the same time, we cannot publish what we do not have. To date, we have not received information on Donald Trump’s campaign, or Jill Stein’s campaign, or Gary Johnson’s campaign or any of the other candidates that fufills our stated editorial criteria. As a result of publishing Clinton’s cables and indexing her emails we are seen as domain experts on Clinton archives. So it is natural that Clinton sources come to us.
We publish as fast as our resources will allow and as fast as the public can absorb it.
That is our commitment to ourselves, to our sources, and to the public.
This is not due to a personal desire to influence the outcome of the election. The Democratic and Republican candidates have both expressed hostility towards whistleblowers. I spoke at the launch of the campaign for Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate, because her platform addresses the need to protect them. This is an issue that is close to my heart because of the Obama administration’s inhuman and degrading treatment of one of our alleged sources, Chelsea Manning. But WikiLeaks publications are not an attempt to get Jill Stein elected or to take revenge over Ms Manning’s treatment either.
Publishing is what we do. To withhold the publication of such information until after the election would have been to favour one of the candidates above the public’s right to know.
This is after all what happened when the New York Times withheld evidence of illegal mass surveillance of the US population for a year until after the 2004 election, denying the public a critical understanding of the incumbent president George W Bush, which probably secured his reelection. The current editor of the New York Times has distanced himself from that decision and rightly so.
The US public defends free speech more passionately, but the First Amendment only truly lives through its repeated exercise. The First Amendment explicitly prevents the executive from attempting to restrict anyone’s ability to speak and publish freely. The First Amendment does not privilege old media, with its corporate advertisers and dependencies on incumbent power factions, over WikiLeaks’ model of scientific journalism or an individual’s decision to inform their friends on social media. The First Amendment unapologetically nurtures the democratization of knowledge. With the Internet, it has reached its full potential.
Yet, some weeks ago, in a tactic reminiscent of Senator McCarthy and the red scare, Wikileaks, Green Party candidate Stein, Glenn Greenwald and Clinton’s main opponent were painted with a broad, red brush. The Clinton campaign, when they were not spreading obvious untruths, pointed to unnamed sources or to speculative and vague statements from the intelligence community to suggest a nefarious allegiance with Russia. The campaign was unable to invoke evidence about our publications—because none exists.
In the end, those who have attempted to malign our groundbreaking work over the past four months seek to inhibit public understanding perhaps because it is embarrassing to them – a reason for censorship the First Amendment cannot tolerate. Only unsuccessfully do they try to claim that our publications are inaccurate.
WikiLeaks’ decade-long pristine record for authentication remains. Our key publications this round have even been proven through the cryptographic signatures of the companies they passed through, such as Google. It is not every day you can mathematically prove that your publications are perfect but this day is one of them.
We have endured intense criticism, primarily from Clinton supporters, for our publications. Many long-term supporters have been frustrated because we have not addressed this criticism in a systematic way or responded to a number of false narratives about Wikileaks’ motivation or sources. Ultimately, however, if WL reacted to every false claim, we would have to divert resources from our primary work.
WikiLeaks, like all publishers, is ultimately accountable to its funders. Those funders are you. Our resources are entirely made up of contributions from the public and our book sales. This allows us to be principled, independent and free in a way no other influential media organization is. But it also means that we do not have the resources of CNN, MSNBC or the Clinton campaign to constantly rebuff criticism.
Yet if the press obeys considerations above informing the public, we are no longer talking about a free press, and we are no longer talking about an informed public.
Wikileaks remains committed to publishing information that informs the public, even if many, especially those in power, would prefer not to see it. WikiLeaks must publish. It must publish and be damned.
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Pardon Julian
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Julian MIA. Let's hope the CIA didn't get him. I've read rumors.
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Julian MIA. Let's hope the CIA didn't get him. I've read rumors.
This is an unverified rumor.
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This is an unverified rumor.
That would be why it is a rumor.....
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That would be why it is a rumor.....
Yup, I was being redundant. Sorry.
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UN ruling to free WikiLeaks’ Assange to stand after British appeal rejected
The United Nations has rejected a UK appeal against its previous ruling in favor of Julian Assange as "inadmissible," thus requiring both London and Stockholm to end the WikiLeaks founder’s arbitrary detention.
Earlier this year, a case was concluded at the UN, in which the body instructed the UK and Sweden to take immediate steps to ensure the WikiLeaks founder's liberty, protection and enjoyment of fundamental human rights.
The UK has appealed the ruling twice, with the UN rejecting its second appeal on Wednesday by pronouncing it "not admissible," Justice for Assange reported, adding that the decision marks the end to London's "attempt to overturn the ruling."
"Now that all appeals are exhausted, I expect that the UK and Sweden will comply with their international obligations and set me free," a statement by Assange read, with the fugitive whistleblower calling his detention "an obvious and grotesque injustice."
https://www.rt.com/news/368746-un-ruling-free-assange/ (https://www.rt.com/news/368746-un-ruling-free-assange/)
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https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46703#efmAANACc (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46703#efmAANACc)
The Colbert Report takes marching orders from the DNC.
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http://findingassange.com/?i=2 (http://findingassange.com/?i=2)
Very interesting. Countdown clock:
Hello and welcome to what was suppose to be a website about gathering & sharing information regarding Julian Assange's disappearance. This site was plagued with many problems that prevented it from ever launching to meet its true potential.
However, its purpose has now changed, given the recent actions by the Obama Administration, Democratic Party and the CIA creating and spreading a very false narrative of Russian interference in the US Election process with absolutely no evidence to back up its claims as well as the overwhelming evidence that points to their involvement in the capture, detainment or death of Julian Assange the time has now come to expose the truth. On December 15th at 6:30PM 15,000 John Podesta emails never before released to the public as well as the passwords to two of the Wikileaks Insurance Files will be published here for download.
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Meanwhile, the DNC and MSM scratch their heads wondering why no one except their sycophants buys the Russian story.
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This video speaks for itself.
Don't buy into the Russian hype.
Seth Rich is dead and Assange has been missing since October. No video or photographic proof.
One radio interview, that's it! Where is Julian?!
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Assange being interviewed by Hannity at 4 p.m. Est.
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No shit?!
Assange being interviewed by Hannity at 4 p.m. Est.
Wow. He really is. That makes me so happy.
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Pardon Julian
I disagree. He's no hero or virtual freedom fighter in my book.
In my view he's violated the basic privacy rights of countless private citizens.
In addition to that, he's made many classified documents public.
It's one thing to do some investigative journalism on a criminal or immoral act.
It's completely different to just ignore privacy and classification to make everything public.
I see him and those like Bradley Manning as criminals. I consider their acts a serious form of espionage against the USA .
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I disagree. He's no hero or virtual freedom fighter in my book.
In my view he's violated the basic privacy rights of countless private citizens.
In addition to that, he's made many classified documents public.
It's one thing to do some investigative journalism on a criminal or immoral act.
It's completely different to just ignore privacy and classification to make everything public.
I see him and those like Bradley Manning as criminals. I consider their acts a serious form of espionage against the USA .
He's not a hacker. Wikileaks does not hack.
He's a mouthpiece for whistleblowers.
Do you not believe whistleblowers have the right to be heard? We should not protect those who wish to stop corruption?
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The sources he ( Wiki Leaks) use hack into various web sites and private email accounts.
He also releases hacked documents from classified US intelligence sources.
Thus, he supports hackers , which is helping support internet criminals.
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https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/816024318509465604/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/816024318509465604/photo/1)
If you thought 2016 was a big WikiLeaks, year 2017 will blow you away.
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He's not a hacker. Wikileaks does not hack.
He's a mouthpiece for whistleblowers.
Do you not believe whistleblowers have the right to be heard? We should not protect those who wish to stop corruption?
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Whistle blowers have the right to be heard, but they should do their own talking.
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Whistle blowers have the right to be heard, but they should do there own talking.
Maybe against corporations and individuals, but not the information is pertinent to governments (domestic or abroad).
Plus they'd be admitting to crimes in most cases. There is a reason they need a mouthpiece. Corruption found illegally is still corruption.
And do you believe today's media would properly report the info from Wikileaks if it were coming from the individual "hacker/leaker's" mouth?
C'mon, take partisan politics out of it. The citizens of a nation (especially the US) have the right to know if their elected officials, or those appointed by them, are doing corrupt shit.
We need to get out of the mindset that "We work for the Govt." and return to the fact that "the Govt. works for us."
Wikileaks is a way to keep elected officials accountable... and that USED to be the media's job w/ investigative journalism.
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Maybe against corporations and individuals, but not the information is pertinent to governments (domestic or abroad).
Plus they'd be admitting to crimes in most cases. There is a reason they need a mouthpiece. Corruption found illegally is still corruption.
And do you believe today's media would properly report the info from Wikileaks if it were coming from the individual "hacker/leaker's" mouth?
C'mon, take partisan politics out of it. The citizens of a nation (especially the US) have the right to know if their elected officials, or those appointed by them, are doing corrupt shit.
We need to get out of the mindset that "We work for the Govt." and return to the fact that "the Govt. works for us."
Wikileaks is a way to keep elected officials accountable... and that USED to be the media's job w/ investigative journalism.
We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
If the information comes from Wikileaks, there is no guarantee it is accurate.
If Julian Assange is finding/reporting corruption he's doing it illegally which makes him a criminal. What's more, he is a profiteer. Who is to say he does not manipulate the truth in order to increase his audience? If the whistle blowers are too cowardly to come forward on their own, it is highly unlikely they would call Assange on inaccuracies. If they did, they'd lose their anonymity. You don't trust the media. Why trust Assange? He too is in the media business.
How this issue related to the mindset you mentioned, eludes me. If people don't know that the public is government's "employer" they are clearly misinformed. There are however government employees and they are many.
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We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
If the information comes from Wikileaks, there is no guarantee it is accurate.
If Julian Assange is finding/reporting corruption he's doing it illegally which makes him a criminal. What's more, he is a profiteer. Who is to say he does not manipulate the truth in order to increase his audience? If the whistle blowers are too cowardly to come forward on their own, it is highly unlikely they would call Assange on inaccuracies. If they did, they'd lose their anonymity. You don't trust the media. Why trust Assange? He too is in the media business.
How this issue related to the mindset you mentioned, eludes me. If people don't know that the public is government's "employer" they are clearly misinformed. There are however government employees and they are many.
This is one of the problems I have and thus proves you neglected to do any research what so ever on Assange, if you did you would know that Wikileaks had an undeniable and proven track record for accuracy for more than 10 years. If I recall correctly, when everything that was stated in the Wikileaks documents were in fact in Clinton's and Podesta's own words. Whether it was done legally or illegally is irrelevant, the fact remains that the emails are real, in their own words (Clinton and Podesta) and the fact that neither didn't deny it proves it even more and further proves what we've been saying all along that you (the left) thought was just conspiracy theories.
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We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
If the information comes from Wikileaks, there is no guarantee it is accurate.
If Julian Assange is finding/reporting corruption he's doing it illegally which makes him a criminal. What's more, he is a profiteer. Who is to say he does not manipulate the truth in order to increase his audience? If the whistle blowers are too cowardly to come forward on their own, it is highly unlikely they would call Assange on inaccuracies. If they did, they'd lose their anonymity. You don't trust the media. Why trust Assange? He too is in the media business.
How this issue related to the mindset you mentioned, eludes me. If people don't know that the public is government's "employer" they are clearly misinformed. There are however government employees and they are many.
They have a 100% accuracy record.
I have yet to hear anyone argue their validity Prime, except Donna Brasile... go figure.
Read into DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM); Most the DNC/Clinton serve emails from wikileaks show that these emails are DKIM verfied.
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If the information comes from Wikileaks, there is no guarantee it is accurate.
Huh?
This is why you are uninformed and apparently have no desire to be anything but.
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We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
If the information comes from Wikileaks, there is no guarantee it is accurate.
If Julian Assange is finding/reporting corruption he's doing it illegally which makes him a criminal. What's more, he is a profiteer. Who is to say he does not manipulate the truth in order to increase his audience? If the whistle blowers are too cowardly to come forward on their own, it is highly unlikely they would call Assange on inaccuracies. If they did, they'd lose their anonymity. You don't trust the media. Why trust Assange? He too is in the media business.
How this issue related to the mindset you mentioned, eludes me. If people don't know that the public is government's "employer" they are clearly misinformed. There are however government employees and they are many.
What is telling is that neither Clinton nor Podesta disputed the contents of any of the emails that were released. I really don't see a reasonable basis to question the accuracy of what was released.