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New York Post - Thursday, March 30, 2006
PECKING ORDER, By KEITH J. KELLY
March 30, 2006 -- NEW AMI BOARD MEMBERS RIDE HERD ON PECKER.
American Media's board huddles in New York today and there is a new team of sheriffs in town - the bondholders. The tabloid publisher - home to the National Enquirer, Star and Celebrity Living, among others - has added two board members from its key equity investors: Richard Bressler, a former Time Warner CFO, now with Thomas H.Lee Partners, and Saul Goodman, of Evercore Partners.
They will be asking some tough questions when AMI's board meets for the first time since Pecker and his principal backers, Lee and Evercore, hammered out an agreement that gives the bondholders tighter financial
controls over the publisher. "They have created a structure that says run this business for cash[flow] or bad things are going to happen," said Ken Meehan, an assistant editor with Debtwire, which follows stressed companies.
The deal gives the company little margin for fiscal error. Insiders said the pressure has been tough on Pecker, the swashbuckling CEO who always seemed able to pull financial rabbits out of his hat. "This has to be weighing heavily on his shoulders," said one. Pecker has reportedly even shaved off the trademark mustache he sported throughout his publishing career. He has also been spotted flying first-class commercial instead of charter, as he shuttles between AMI's Boca Raton headquarters and its New York City offices.
The tighter fiscal polices have already hit operations. Sly, a magazine published in conjunction with Sylvester Stallone, has folded. Celebrity Living, a new $1.99 weekly which the company tossed into the low-priced genre to offset the charge by Bauer Publications, has struggled, and last week the company conceded it is relinquishing extra pockets at supermarket checkout counters that it had intended to buy. The company said the magazine's sales were soft, but that it was meeting its rate base of 225,000 copies.
A new contract with the high-octane Editorial Director Bonnie Fuller, which expires in July, still has not been signed, but talks are continuing. Fuller has been coasting on a wave of fluffy stories about her new book,
"The Joys of Much Too Much: Go for the Big Life, the Great Career, the Perfect Guy and Everything Else You've Ever Wanted," from Simon & Schuster's Fireside imprint.But her editing has been less happy. Star magazine has run an embarrassing string of celebrity pregnancy stories on Britney Spears, Demi Moore, Jessica
Simpson and Jennifer Lopez - all of which later turned out to be false. Under a deal reached March 17, AMI had to pay bondholders $5.5 million within five days, according to a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
AMI has $550 million in bonds outstanding, and a total debt load of $1 billion. AMI will also have to meet tighter cash flow debt ratios, and begin lowering its cash flow to debt ratio over the next two years. If it fails to do so, it will incur penalties over $15 million.
Evercore and Lee could also be forced to inject $40 million into AMI, or the firm could be forced to issue new bonds that will give the bondholders even more clout. In exchange, the bondholders waived the default that the company entered into last month. The bondholders include giants as Capital Research & Management, Eaton Vance Management, PIMCO, Post Capital Management, and Alliance Capital Management.
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Good Question,
One thing will come out of this for sure. If they have to justify everything and discard the non-profit content of the organization we will find out if the Olympia really does make the promoters money or not.
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when is the kid in the doublewide trailer with the MBA from florida state gonna chime in and claim he saw this coming
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AMI owns 50% of the Olympia but they are 100% responsible for all the costs. They are looking to sell their part of the Olympia. Vyotech has shown interest but it would be a real stupid move.
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AMI owns 50% of the Olympia but they are 100% responsible for all the costs. They are looking to sell their part of the Olympia. Vyotech has shown interest but it would be a real stupid move.
why stupid for vyotech?
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AMI owns 50% of the Olympia but they are 100% responsible for all the costs. They are looking to sell their part of the Olympia. Vyotech has shown interest but it would be a real stupid move.
What butthead would sign a deal like that?
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New York Post - Thursday, March 30, 2006
PECKING ORDER
By KEITH J. KELLY
March 30, 2006 -- NEW AMI BOARD MEMBERS RIDE HERD ON PECKER
They will be asking some tough questions when AMI's board meets for the
first time since Pecker and his principal backers, Lee and Evercore,
hammered out an agreement
the 2 above phrases in the article were quite funny however
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Not sure about this and it's just a thought, but if Viotech did step in it could cause complications in dealings with other supp companies who view Viotech as competition.
I don't think that the Olympia would be in trouble as it stands now, because it appears that the "O" does make a profit each year......
... and even if it did not make a profit, there would always be someone else willing to step in just to be associated with Bodybuilding in some capacity and willing to take the steps that would be necessary to improve the "O" for one and all.
As a side comment ..... I personally think that the PDI would be more successful in a shorter period of time if it published its own magazine each month.
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Ok - lets get somethings straight.
The Olympia Weekend this year will be the biggest yet, with more booths and more people than ever before. There is no problem with the Olympia Weekend, nor the promotion of the Olympia Weekend, nor the sponsors of the Olympia Weekend. They will be doing just fine. Even the title sponsor is new, pumping in a lot of monies for more prize money, and more excitement.
Now, as for AMI, Weider Pubs is doing just fine, and Pecker has much bigger problems to take care of then deal with the profitable side of things.
So yes - many of us, including myself - have already booked the rooms, time and plan to support the Olympia, the athletes that participate in it, and everything else associated with it. Like it or not, the Olympia is the biggest bodybuilding event of the year (Arnold is smaller for bodybuilding only). The die hards and the purests and the peopel that enjoy bodybuilding come to the show. And that is that.
Nothing is going to beat it right now. Plain and simple.
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Ok - lets get somethings straight.
The Olympia Weekend this year will be the biggest yet, with more booths and more people than ever before. There is no problem with the Olympia Weekend, nor the promotion of the Olympia Weekend, nor the sponsors of the Olympia Weekend. They will be doing just fine. Even the title sponsor is new, pumping in a lot of monies for more prize money, and more excitement.
Now, as for AMI, Weider Pubs is doing just fine, and Pecker has much bigger problems to take care of then deal with the profitable side of things.
So yes - many of us, including myself - have already booked the rooms, time and plan to support the Olympia, the athletes that participate in it, and everything else associated with it. Like it or not, the Olympia is the biggest bodybuilding event of the year (Arnold is smaller for bodybuilding only). The die hards and the purests and the peopel that enjoy bodybuilding come to the show. And that is that.
Nothing is going to beat it right now. Plain and simple.
What planet are you on Ron?
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I will fotograph the event and pretend PDI isn't happening.
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I think I'm just going to listen to what Keith said on this, and what he's said in the past, the writing is on the wall and it's only a matter of time now.
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Why would they want to lower the cashflow to debt ratio? Don't they mean that they should raise it?
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Why would they want to lower the cashflow to debt ratio? Don't they mean that they should raise it?
Why would you buy Weider publications for that much in the first place??
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Why would you buy Weider publications for that much in the first place??
To get training advice that is applicable to the average person and to see bodybuilders posing in perfectly normal outfits. Where else would you find a picture of Nasser El Sonbaty wearing jean short cut-offs which are attached to suspenders? :D
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Ok - lets get somethings straight.
The Olympia Weekend this year will be the biggest yet, with more booths and more people than ever before. There is no problem with the Olympia Weekend, nor the promotion of the Olympia Weekend, nor the sponsors of the Olympia Weekend. They will be doing just fine. Even the title sponsor is new, pumping in a lot of monies for more prize money, and more excitement.
Now, as for AMI, Weider Pubs is doing just fine, and Pecker has much bigger problems to take care of then deal with the profitable side of things.
So yes - many of us, including myself - have already booked the rooms, time and plan to support the Olympia, the athletes that participate in it, and everything else associated with it. Like it or not, the Olympia is the biggest bodybuilding event of the year (Arnold is smaller for bodybuilding only). The die hards and the purests and the peopel that enjoy bodybuilding come to the show. And that is that.
Nothing is going to beat it right now. Plain and simple.
Please tell me who is going to win the Super Bowl too and the Kentucky Derby.
Now, as for AMI, Weider Pubs is doing just fine, and Pecker has much bigger problems to take care of then deal with the profitable side of things.
We aren't talking about the Weiner Pubs. And AMI would not look to sell there 50% of the Olympia if it were making money. It may be making money for the IFBB though.
why stupid for vyotech?
Not sure how many of Vyotechs competition would feel good about dumping money into a show to help promote one of their competitors and make them look even better. With the PDI coming out with more shows and locations and a broader geographical presence, it would be great if Vyotech bought the Olympia the other sponsors would be more ept to invest in the spreading of PDI.
So yes - many of us, including myself - have already booked the rooms, time and plan to support the Olympia, the athletes that participate in it, and everything else associated with it. Like it or not, the Olympia is the biggest bodybuilding event of the year (Arnold is smaller for bodybuilding only). The die hards and the purests and the peopel that enjoy bodybuilding come to the show. And that is that.
Yes but the Olympia has been an embarrassment to the die-hards, purests and the people who enjoy BB. Sure they will go cause at this time their is nothing else. That is the ONLY reason the IFBB has survived this long. That is a fact that even you can't dispute. Well now PDI is here and the IFBB better do a 180 fast or it's going to end up like the AAU did.
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I gotta tell you Ron, I love you man! What you have done with Getbig is awesome. but I gotta say this cause I just thought about it. I truly believe that AMI, Weiners and/or Manion have invested a little money into Getbig to keep it going and to be able to regulate what is on here. The one-sided opinions are funny and timed just right. Just a thought, but something I think is more tru than not. And of course it will be denied, but the facts and posts prove otherwise.
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The Olympia Weekend this year will be the biggest yet, with more booths and more people than ever before.
After last year's debacle, I'm not sure this year's show is going to bring in more people than ever before. It may hit rock bottom before things get better.
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The one-sided opinions are funny and timed just right.
I have to give credit where credit is due so Onlyme, you do that so well.
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Ok - lets get somethings straight.
The Olympia Weekend this year will be the biggest yet, with more booths and more people than ever before. There is no problem with the Olympia Weekend, nor the promotion of the Olympia Weekend, nor the sponsors of the Olympia Weekend. They will be doing just fine. Even the title sponsor is new, pumping in a lot of monies for more prize money, and more excitement.
Now, as for AMI, Weider Pubs is doing just fine, and Pecker has much bigger problems to take care of then deal with the profitable side of things.
So yes - many of us, including myself - have already booked the rooms, time and plan to support the Olympia, the athletes that participate in it, and everything else associated with it. Like it or not, the Olympia is the biggest bodybuilding event of the year (Arnold is smaller for bodybuilding only). The die hards and the purests and the peopel that enjoy bodybuilding come to the show. And that is that.
Nothing is going to beat it right now. Plain and simple.
Ron thats the same crap you said last year and look what happened worse show ever.I predict it will be the same.
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Ron thats the same crap you said last year and look what happened worse show ever.I predict it will be the same.
Roger that.
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Careful guys, Ron might have a meltdown to remember ;D
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this board is almost overly regulated now
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YoMama: What planet are you on Ron?
Well, last I checked planet earth. I am interested to know what planet you think you are on?
Mr. Foto I will fotograph the event and pretend PDI isn't happening.
No one said that the PDI isn’t happening?
Goatboy: Have you seen their financials, or is this just the "company line" that you are being asked to repeat?
No one said that their cash flow isn’t in trouble. That is evident from the report.
Why would you buy Weider publications for that much in the first place??
At the time, it seemed like a great way to increase revenue while getting a valuable asset.
Only me: Vyotech and the Olympia?
I don’t think that Vyotech has been approach in running the Olympia, as far as I know.
OnlyMe: Yes but the Olympia has been an embarrassment to the die-hards, purests and the people who enjoy BB. Sure they will go cause at this time their is nothing else.
Yes, thank you on that. The fans, the supplement companies, the people that make their money from the support will continue to go to the Olympia because it is the best place for bodybuilding fans. The same that if you go to the Superbowl, or to the High School Football Championships. Different things.
OnlyMe: I truly believe that AMI, Weiners and/or Manion have invested a little money into Getbig to keep it going and to be able to regulate what is on here.
Keith, don’t I wish. No - I am running at a loss, but with the help of Muscletech, Bodybuildig.com, Nutrabolics, and Pro Bodybuilding Weekly, to name some, it will keep Getbig independent for free discussion.
After last year's debacle, I'm not sure this year's show is going to bring in more people than ever before. It may hit rock bottom before things get better.
I had a great time at the Olympia, and so did many people I spoke to. And yes, I predict there will be more people this year than last year. Because whomever I spoke to, even the ones that complained, ALL said they will be back this year again.
Lee: Ron thats the same crap you said last year and look what happened worse show ever.I predict it will be the same.
Well - a lot of people were at the expo and at the show; the prize money went up substantially, and not too many of the athletes complained with the extra money that they had. Yes, there were kinks, but this year should and will be different.
Like it or not, this show is the biggest bodybuilding show out there, for the fans and the sport.
Big Dumbbell - this board is almost overly regulated now
Wow - excellent comment on this discussion. Please remember to post this glorious comment on the BOARD COMMENT section of the site... exaple on why a post will get deleted.
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Ok - lets get somethings straight.
The Olympia Weekend this year will be the biggest yet, with more booths and more people than ever before. There is no problem with the Olympia Weekend, nor the promotion of the Olympia Weekend, nor the sponsors of the Olympia Weekend. They will be doing just fine. Even the title sponsor is new, pumping in a lot of monies for more prize money, and more excitement.
Now, as for AMI, Weider Pubs is doing just fine, and Pecker has much bigger problems to take care of then deal with the profitable side of things.
So yes - many of us, including myself - have already booked the rooms, time and plan to support the Olympia, the athletes that participate in it, and everything else associated with it. Like it or not, the Olympia is the biggest bodybuilding event of the year (Arnold is smaller for bodybuilding only). The die hards and the purests and the peopel that enjoy bodybuilding come to the show. And that is that.
Nothing is going to beat it right now. Plain and simple.
As you know Ron the Olympia is not my show of choice for a variety of personal reasons. However, I would be a complete bonehead if I didn't admit that the O is a major bodybuilding production and from what I understand always makes a decent profit, etc.
I think the O is a decent event and would go if it was more convenient for me. I just other events with a higher priority for me, nothing more.
Can the O ever be toppled? As it stands now , no. However, if Wayne D really pushes hard with his PDI format and it ever takes off, look out.
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this board is almost overly regulated now
Agreed.
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As of last night, there is NO listing for the Olympia on the Orleans website.
Olympia website says tickets will go on sale March 20. They did not.
Don't worry about PDI's show, that is going to happen. You can buy tickets to the NOC right now. Start worring about the Olympia!
If happens, the Olympia is going to suck - just like last year. And just as boring because Coleman is going to win again.
Excitement? What, pray tell, would that be? No challenge round? Ooooooooohhh.... That's exciting!!
When Pecker gets the axe the guy that comes in to replace him is going to take one look at AMI's involvement in BB and cringe. They will cut it because it is NOT profitable for them. Remember, you have to add in to the price of the Olympia the $400,000 they have to pay Weider every year for his half, and all the athletes AMI has under contract. Add it all up and Pecker is shoveling money at BB and it is just not coming back - just like all the other investments he's made to rack up that BILLION dollar debt.
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As of last night, there is NO listing for the Olympia on the Orleans website.
Olympia website says tickets will go on sale March 20. They did not.
Don't worry about PDI's show, that is going to happen. You can buy tickets to the NOC right now. Start worring about the Olympia!
If happens, the Olympia is going to suck - just like last year. And just as boring because Coleman is going to win again.
Excitement? What, pray tell, would that be? No challenge round? Ooooooooohhh.... That's exciting!!
When Pecker gets the axe the guy that comes in to replace him is going to take one look at AMI's involvement in BB and cringe. They will cut it because it is NOT profitable for them. Remember, you have to add in to the price of the Olympia the $400,000 they have to pay Weider every year for his half, and all the athletes AMI has under contract. Add it all up and Pecker is shoveling money at BB and it is just not coming back - just like all the other investments he's made to rack up that BILLION dollar debt.
EXACTLY!
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When Pecker gets the axe the guy that comes in to replace him is going to take one look at AMI's involvement in BB and cringe. They will cut it because it is NOT profitable for them.
this is something I expected to happen already, but ultimately will be a huge blow to BBing in general. When Weider was the king of the empire there was someone who was pro-bbing at the top. Say what you want how he fvcked people over this shit was in his blood. Not so for the new regime. There is going to be the day when one of these bean counters says "Olympia-Schmolympia....fvck these freaks, it loses money."
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he's had that ability for awhile it's just surfacing
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As of last night, there is NO listing for the Olympia on the Orleans website.
Olympia website says tickets will go on sale March 20. They did not.
Don't worry about PDI's show, that is going to happen. You can buy tickets to the NOC right now. Start worring about the Olympia!
If happens, the Olympia is going to suck - just like last year. And just as boring because Coleman is going to win again.
Excitement? What, pray tell, would that be? No challenge round? Ooooooooohhh.... That's exciting!!
When Pecker gets the axe the guy that comes in to replace him is going to take one look at AMI's involvement in BB and cringe. They will cut it because it is NOT profitable for them. Remember, you have to add in to the price of the Olympia the $400,000 they have to pay Weider every year for his half, and all the athletes AMI has under contract. Add it all up and Pecker is shoveling money at BB and it is just not coming back - just like all the other investments he's made to rack up that BILLION dollar debt.
That is true. Does that mean it is not happening. Since everyone says the NOC isn't happening becasue it is not listed. Is the Olympia been cancelled. You would think it would at least be listed and scheduled. Another bumbling by AMI. Probably didn;t send in the payment. WHo is the new COO AMI hired.
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The NOC is scheduled - Sep 15th at the Town Hall Theater in Manhattan. You can buy tickets right now on PDI's website. You can't do that witht he Olympia!
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Once again, it doesnt matter on the focus of this thread if the NOC is scheduled or not. Most likely - it is scheduled and will be run. What is the focus of this thread is that the Olympia Weekend is the best and most visible bodybuilding event of the year, and the Olympia is not in trouble for 2006. It will be at the Orleans, it will be fun, and like I said before, almost everyone that was there last year will be back again this year.
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Ron thats the same crap you said last year and look what happened worse show ever.I predict it will be the same.
maybe so but not one sport out there can claim that every year is better then the last...Their is peaks and valleys with any business...Imagine what you would think if the first olympia ever held was held today...It would be a joke BUT it doesn't mean it would be the end of the olympia...Their is nothing else like it...So it would go on one way or another...
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What I find hilarious is the Spam email from Flex advertising the 2006 O. (It went right to my Junk mail box). Anyway, the timing was the same day that PDI put out their relese of the 3 European shows and prize money, etc. I have been on the Flex mailing list for years, and they have never sent this spam for the O so early in the year. Looks to me that they are in a defense mode.
Again though, the expo will be quite a ways from the hotel - and they will uses buses again. When they shopped for a venue, they should have done a better job finding one with a decent size hall to hold the expo in (or a hotel much closer to the expo). They are setting themselves up again imo.
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There will be no Mr. Olympia this year.. All athletes jumped ship to PDI.
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The NOC is scheduled - Sep 15th at the Town Hall Theater in Manhattan. You can buy tickets right now on PDI's website. You can't do that witht he Olympia!
Hmm, let's see, the Olympia has a long histry as the event in bodybuilding and plenty of top guys getting ready for it, but nobody can get tickets yet and the event is NOT even listed on the venue schedule ???
The PDI NY show has a venue and tickets for sale but the guys who will compete is still a mystery ???
...and I wonder why this sport is not mainstream and on TV ???
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Well, last I checked planet earth. I am interested to know what planet you think you are on?
Nice try Ron. My comment was in response to your statment "Now, as for AMI, Weider Pubs is doing just fine, and Pecker has much bigger problems to take care of then deal with the profitable side of things."
Right here on your own board I've read posts regarding lagging sales and circulation of their magazines from referenced and credible sources (NY Post, min, etc.), the article that kicked off this topic and even the quote below are just 2 examples...
Interesting numbers for you all direct from this weeks min newsletter…
March 6, 2006
Media Industry Newsletter (min)
Vol. 59 No. 10
Second Half 2005 Magazine Analysis
Flex Rate Base/Circ Guarantee
None claimed
Single Copies (%) (Newsstand Sales)
70,529 (-7.3%)
This is not a sign of poor customer service, producing a withering product editorially is most likely the culprit for the decline in sales here.
Subscriptions (%)
41,111 (-13.4%)
This decline looks to be right on par with your customer service woes.
Total (%)
111,640 (-9.6%)
Ouch!
Let alone the constant bloodloss going on in their publishing division that is being reported almost weekly in newspapers and magazines serving both the consumer and trade side of publishing.
Fact is that the mags being in trouble is the big problem that Pecker has to take care of. That's what the business is...PUBLISHING. If he is not taking care of getting the company profitable, then what he is being paid to do in the first place?
Wake up Ron...Planet earth is calling. You need to turn your spaceship around and come back home.
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<<the Olympia is not in trouble for 2006. It will be at the Orleans, it will be fun, and like I said before, almost everyone that was there last year will be back again this year. >>
That, my friend, like the NOC, remains to be seen. Obviously, all those people you spoke with last year, Ron, are not on this board. The consensus is, from those of us who were there and endured the debacle, is that another round of the same is not worth the price of admission. It sucked last year, the same thing is being offered this year - so, what? Now it's supposed to be fun and exciting? Because why? A few people from last year said they would come back?
Let's get something straight, the Olympia - when Joe Weider was involved, and Wayne ran it - was the best thing in bodybuilding. Today it SUCKS because the guy who writes the checks is an executive who can't turn a profit and is probably going to be out of a job before long. Hid focus is not the Olympia. That's why it will not be fun, it will not be exciting, there will be nothing new, Ronnie will win again, and everyone who goes will complain - again.
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it will be fun? ::)
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Let's get something straight, the Olympia - when Joe Weider was involved, and Wayne ran it - was the best thing in bodybuilding. Today it SUCKS because the guy who writes the checks is an executive who can't turn a profit and is probably going to be out of a job before long.
Very true. When Wayne ran the Olympia, it was first class all the way. A good example is the VIP banquet. When Wayne ran the show it was a full coarse meal in a huge room, the food was great. Last year, AMI served finger foods. The competitors came in after the show ready to pig out because there was no European Tour and they had to eat miniature hot dogs and crackers. Talk about missing the target audience! AMI's sole concern is profit, which is evident in almost every aspect of the show.
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The VIP "party" sucked....
and no, there wasn't any "full course" meal served...it was a buffet style set up with chicken, potato, salad, pasta, fish, etc....just what you're looking to eat after dieting for 14 weeks with the same foods...
If I were running the VIP party, I'd have some damn pizza's, wings, finger foods, deserts, etc.
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The VIP "party" sucked....
and no, there wasn't any "full course" meal served...it was a buffet style set up with chicken, potato, salad, pasta, fish, etc....just what you're looking to eat after dieting for 14 weeks with the same foods...
If I were running the VIP party, I'd have some damn pizza's, wings, finger foods, deserts, etc.
I don't agree with Chick on many things, but this I do. How much does pizza cost anyway - give the guys what they want!
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I don't agree with Chick on many things, but this I do. How much does pizza cost anyway - give the guys what they want!
oh i know we have focaccia, brochetta, calzone, and vienna pastries at our VP functions
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The VIP "party" sucked....
and no, there wasn't any "full course" meal served...it was a buffet style set up with chicken, potato, salad, pasta, fish, etc....just what you're looking to eat after dieting for 14 weeks with the same foods...
If I were running the VIP party, I'd have some damn pizza's, wings, finger foods, deserts, etc.
haha Bob your starting to think about food now from the dieting. And thanks for making me think about it
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AT my show I had one of the most popular restauarants in Honolulu cater the pump-up room. The competitors got to all they wanted. We had chicken, pork, rice, cheescake, pizza, fruit, hamburger steak, potatoes, egg rolls, cake and lots of different drinks
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AT my show I had one of the most popular restauarants in Honolulu cater the pump-up room. The competitors got to all they wanted. We had chicken, pork, rice, cheescake, pizza, fruit, hamburger steak, potatoes, egg rolls, cake and lots of different drinks
The competitors that I talked to didn't remember you having "hamburger steak".
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The party after the Central American IFBB amateurs is top class.
Full buffet with everything imaginable, open bar, live band etc..
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The competitors that I talked to didn't remember you having "hamburger steak".
We did have it. Here is Hawaii it is a patty over rice covered with gravy and sometimes an egg. It's called a Loco Moco.
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We did have it. Here is Hawaii it is a patty over rice covered with gravy and sometimes an egg. It's called a Loco Moco.
did you have spam too?
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We did have it. Here is Hawaii it is a patty over rice covered with gravy and sometimes an egg. It's called a Loco Moco.
I didn't really talk to any competitors. ;D If you are serious though, it sounds like an interesting dish. I think you must be joking :D
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The VIP "party" sucked....
and no, there wasn't any "full course" meal served...it was a buffet style set up with chicken, potato, salad, pasta, fish, etc....just what you're looking to eat after dieting for 14 weeks with the same foods...
If I were running the VIP party, I'd have some damn pizza's, wings, finger foods, deserts, etc.
Ehm...
Chick, don't get me wrong but VIP party is done for the super fans, who pay a lot of money for that, to get the chance to have diner with their idols.
It isn't meant to fullfill the carbo dreams of the athletes.
Olympia, or other contests, post shows are not promoted to feed starving people also 'cause, at the Olympia in particular, athletes already receive daily food allowance.
Insider Z
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did you have spam too?
Spam is big on the islands.
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Spam is big on the islands.
And my inbox.
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Ron,
What are you smoking?
The Mr. Olympia has been on a downhill slide since Wayne left. Instead of the premier bodybuilding event of the year, it is now being used to provide life support to three women's events that cannot stand on their own. So Friday night you have the Olympia judging sharing time with the women's bodybuilding and fitness finals. How much time and attention do you think will be gien to the men's judging. If you thought last year was bad, just wait until you see the abbreviated judging this year, and that is after you have had to sit through three or four hours of the women's show.
On Saturday instead of bis and tris it will be Tand A for a good part of the evening. Maybe they will cut the men's posing even further than they did last year to make room for the Challenge Round.
By the way, I have already purchased my tickets, but keep asking myself why. Maybe I am hoping for a miracle.
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If I were running the VIP party, I'd have some damn pizza's, wings, finger foods, deserts, etc.
So basically, your precontest diet, then?
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So basically, your precontest diet, then?
Now that is funny or maybe its because I have been drinking
;D
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So basically, your precontest diet, then?
OK i think Bob Chick is definatly a cool guy in person, but i cant help but laugh at that, that was fawkin funny LMAO
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I didn't really talk to any competitors. ;D If you are serious though, it sounds like an interesting dish. I think you must be joking :D
I know you didn;t and yes I am serious. Loco Moco is very popular here. The food was donated and we had allot. Enough to feed 70 BB's and crew. And Spam is the Hawaiian Steak
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I know you didn;t and yes I am serious. Loco Moco is very popular here. The food was donated and we had allot. Enough to feed 70 BB's and crew. And Spam is the Hawaiian Steak
I heard that about Spam, but sheesh! :-X It takes all kinds, I guess.
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OK, as said in the other thread, the Orleans Arena has the listing for the Olympia Weekend and you can buy tickets there as we speak. It is there, so we can stop harping on I didn’t see the ‘Get Tickets’ button, etc.
Chick - the VIP party is not for you. It is for the fans who come there to see some of the favorite bodybuilders who support the industry. Chicken, salmon, potato, salads, pasta is just what is needed after a long hard day. But your request for pizzas, wings, finger foods, and desserts will be noted. In fact, we should all file a petition that there should be pizza there. We will call it the AfterContest Chick Pizza. Oh yes, there should be hamburgers too, and for me, Orange Chicken...
As for what I am smoking.. sadly not much at all. And again, your wonderful complaints, albiet just complaints, still do not stray from the focus at the Olympia, like it or not, is the premier bodybuilding event in the world. You may not like some aspects of it, but many come and will come again.
Now, how about giving some serious constructive criticism as to what you would like to make the Olympia Weekend a much more satisfying for you and fans. (Don’t say change the hotel or the expo area because that is already a done deal).
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<<As for what I am smoking.. sadly not much at all. And again, your wonderful complaints, albiet just complaints, still do not stray from the focus at the Olympia, like it or not, is the premier bodybuilding event in the world. You may not like some aspects of it, but many come and will come again.
Now, how about giving some serious constructive criticism as to what you would like to make the Olympia Weekend a much more satisfying for you and fans. (Don’t say change the hotel or the expo area because that is already a done deal).>>
Come on Ron. Your transparent pandering to AMI/Olympia is as shameful as it is abhorrent, or tat the very least an indication that you must be smoking crack. The Olympia WAS the premier BB event. It is no longer. It sucks. It's a waste of money to attend, and if it continues on this way much longer NO ONE will go.
Constructive criticism? Go to the NOC instead. A weekend in NYC is just as good as a weekend in Vegas. Maybe better. And the show will not be put on by rank amateurs.