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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SteelePegasus on March 30, 2006, 05:16:22 PM
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I am watching war of the world and it occurred to me that these guys are just punching the clock. They are taking minutes in between sets, joking around and playing games. Clearly pushing the work out is not the priority. He then makes the comment of listening to your body, is that euphemism for taking it easy?
Where is the training intensity? Where is the extra effort? There is a thread floating around about training intensity, clearly “supplements” such as vitamin c and a multi is playing the bigger role.
On a different note, thanks for the tip about training Bis. Mine are looking "fuller" because your tip talked about training the outer bi by doing close grips. I like most people over focus on wide grip thus training over training the inner bi.
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Well don't forget, Bob's training for close to 30 years. Obviously results will come if you keep at it for so long. Seems to have worked for him.
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I hope that chic trains like that on camera and not for reals.. it seems that their just people that train and not pro bbers. if a person was training like i do. i dont thin that i can talk straight
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What king of rubber weights was Chick Hen throwing around?
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Ill agree Chick knows a lot about bodybuilding, since he has been doing it for 50 years.. BUT with that being said, i will say he trains with NO intensity, and it's pretty clear that his worth ethic in the gym (ACCORDING to the war of the worlds vid) is total crap..
Genetically speaking, even if he trained like Ronnie or Levrone, he'd still be a crappy bber
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People should not go overboard with "hardcore" workouts. That is a recipe for burning out. Overtraining is the enemy of overzealous bodybuilders everywhere.
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I am watching war of the world and it occurred to me that these guys are just punching the clock. They are taking minutes in between sets, joking around and playing games. Clearly pushing the work out is not the priority. He then makes the comment of listening to your body, is that euphemism for taking it easy?
Where is the training intensity? Where is the extra effort? There is a thread floating around about training intensity, clearly “supplements” such as vitamin c and a multi is playing the bigger role.
On a different note, thanks for the tip about training Bis. Mine are looking "fuller" because your tip talked about training the outer bi by doing close grips. I like most people over focus on wide grip thus training over training the inner bi.
In Chicks defence it's just not him that doesn't train hard, it's about 90% of the pro's out there and if you think I'm kidding just walk into a gym where some of the pros train. Don't let the videos fool you, they only do it for the camera. In reality...there is no intensity.
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People should not go overboard with "hardcore" workouts. That is a recipe for burning out. Overtraining is the enemy of overzealous bodybuilders everywhere.
They don't train hard enough to get burned out!!
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They don't train hard enough to get burned out!!
They are taking preventative measures to avoid burnout ;)
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Bob was blessed by the hand of the gods with undeniable integrity.
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Bob was blessed by the hand of the gods with undeniable integrity.
LOL
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People should not go overboard with "hardcore" workouts. That is a recipe for burning out. Overtraining is the enemy of overzealous bodybuilders everywhere.
Ill bet this guy is one of those "hardcore" BBers that does the squats on the medicine balls.....fool.
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Ill bet this guy is one of those "hardcore" BBers that does the squats on the medicine balls.....fool.
Wrong. I do squats while on roller skates. It really builds the balancing muscles and makes me more nimble. I can now do 8 reps with one plate a side. Before you laugh, try it yourself. It is a hell of a hard exercise.
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Wrong. I do squats while on roller skates. It really builds the balancing muscles and makes me more nimble. I can now do 8 reps with one plate a side. Before you laugh, try it yourself. It is a hell of a hard exercise.
Wow-that must be some new "harcore" training regime........any other words of wisdom for us wise one?
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Wow-that must be some new "harcore" training regime........any other words of wisdom for us wise one?
Deadlifts on roller skates provide similar benefits. Wrestling does a good job of building some of the smaller muscles. Find a strong man or a skilled grappler and wrestle with him at least twice a week.
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In Chicks defence it's just not him that doesn't train hard, it's about 90% of the pro's out there and if you think I'm kidding just walk into a gym where some of the pros train. Don't let the videos fool you, they only do it for the camera. In reality...there is no intensity.
actually Chick and most others trained harder then most imagine to get the size on them...Once you got the muscle on you, it doesn't take shit to really keep it...Muscle memory is a great thing...
Chick is 40 years old with other things going on...Do you really think he cares about giving 100% like his old days...Sure he may say he will but it doesn't work that way..
Also what most don't understand about the mind muscle connection...alot of guys can yell, scream and train to failure all day long but unless they have the mind muscle connection..What they are doing is basically the same as the guy standing in the corner talking to the broad...
you never know what is going on in someones head at the time of reps being down...and sound effects are fucking silly for most...
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Let me ask you guys something
King does squats with 6 plates on the smith for 10 reps resting at the top wrapped up yelling through each one...Gets done his set and procedes to walk around like a bad ass and pats himself on the back for what he just did...That is all great
take another guy that does the same but after his set, tells jokes, laughs and what not...
my question is who is more intense...by watching most would say king but why? He could be thinking of S.Ray through the whole set...about what he is going to do to him ect...
the other guy could be thinking about the contraction he is doing and just the feel itself...
Which one is really more intense????
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the one who pukes and nose starts to bleed and yells "yeah buddy" and " light weight" while listening to some hard gangster rap
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what happend to the thread of bob in the hospital
deleted. welcome to mayhem.
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Deadlifts on roller skates, hahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Just out of interest - how did Bob Chic get his pro card? Not knocking the guy but I just can't think back to a nationals competition he could have won like the NPC Nationals. Was it the North American?
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He won the USA in 2000.
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Wrong. I do squats while on roller skates. It really builds the balancing muscles and makes me more nimble. I can now do 8 reps with one plate a side. Before you laugh, try it yourself. It is a hell of a hard exercise.
OOOKKKK... ::)
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not really sticking up for Bob Chick but it doesn't matter if you joke around between sets if you're intense and working hard DURING THE SET, seems to me that the guys who are super serious and scowling and listening to headphones in the gym are 160 lbs. for the most part.
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I look back and think that the guys who stayed the same were the ones who were the hardcore so to speak scream and make noise during sets thinking that the harder they amke the set the better
now the guys who have the best physiques and overall balance long term(and this is most important, no point grunting and being an intensity machine in the gym if you are burned out and injured and cant train by age 35) are the ones who have learned to channel thier energy and intensity properly so it will work for them positively for many years to come rather then to just burn out and fade away.
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Bob doesn't know how to do cardio - that's for sure. He lumbers on the treadmill like a fat chick (no pun) with his hands on the front of the machine....no wonder why he's not on target with his contest prep....
For God's sake man, put some effort into it!
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Bob doesn't know how to do cardio - that's for sure. He lumbers on the treadmill like a fat chick (no pun) with his hands on the front of the machine....no wonder why he's not on target with his contest prep....
For God's sake man, put some effort into it!
Not on target wit his contest prep?? are you kidding! watch the latest war for the worlds and say he aint on target! whatever he's doing Mr Guru, he seems to be doing ok to me ;)
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Not on target wit his contest prep?? are you kidding! watch the latest war for the worlds and say he aint on target! whatever he's doing Mr Guru, he seems to be doing ok to me ;)
Looking 6-8 weeks out for a show that's 4 weeks away is considered not on target. Hope this helps.
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Looking 6-8 weeks out for a show that's 4 weeks away is considered not on target. Hope this helps.
Well you tried but No, it doesn't help. I think he'll be in shape come contest day ;)
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You should be at least 90% "there" 2-3 weeks before you step on stage!
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Let me ask you guys something
King does squats with 6 plates on the smith for 10 reps resting at the top wrapped up yelling through each one...Gets done his set and procedes to walk around like a bad ass and pats himself on the back for what he just did...That is all great
take another guy that does the same but after his set, tells jokes, laughs and what not...
my question is who is more intense...by watching most would say king but why? He could be thinking of S.Ray through the whole set...about what he is going to do to him ect...
the other guy could be thinking about the contraction he is doing and just the feel itself...
Which one is really more intense????
Good point
The muscle doesn't grow from the mind..
It grows from all of the hard work, the mind just wills the muscle to work harder.
Hope that makes sense.
Any way, I think your going to grow more from training chest 30 times as opposed to doing it 25 times but with grunts and bad ass looks in between sets.
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"Animal" training is overrated.
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I just watched the FIT SHOW...
I dont know what you guys are talking about ??
He has intense workouts and is ON target ...
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I hope they follow him in his hotel room and behind stage at the contest.
We'll watch the fit show stuff, not really go out of our way to learn how everyone did, I think fit show should cover it all, show what its all about.
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i hope he loses and they interview him and he blames tom prince for over carbing
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i hope he loses and they interview him and he blames tom prince for over carbing
it's his to lose
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I just watched the FIT SHOW...
I dont know what you guys are talking about ??
He has intense workouts and is ON target ...
Ofcourse you wouldn't know what we are talking about. You have the physique of a man that trains like a kitten!
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Bob doesn't know how to do cardio - that's for sure. He lumbers on the treadmill like a fat chick (no pun) with his hands on the front of the machine....no wonder why he's not on target with his contest prep....
For God's sake man, put some effort into it!
actually your right if bob was training for cardio and not to burn fat...To burn fat, its takes time---not really effort...Training for cardio takes effort...But to burn fat, esp. at the age of over 35, one can walk almost like a baby and get it done...
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What is that on Chics rear delt. Is that jsut a big muscle
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synthol
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Anyone in the media like Bob should've anticipated how that lameass training would look to others-it's hard to respect someone going through the motions. Is "maintain" enough? The term pathetic comes to mind-if you love it some degree of intensity would be second-nature. Especially in front of the camera, be saavy enough to at least fake it, it's on tape for posterity.
I'm not talking about screaming for the sake of screaming, but he looks like a pussy on the treadmill and when lifting. The Richard Simmons workout.
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Anyone in the media like Bob should've anticipated how that lameass training would look to others-it's hard to respect someone going through the motions. Is "maintain" enough? The term pathetic comes to mind-if you love it some degree of intensity would be second-nature. Especially in front of the camera, be saavy enough to at least fake it, it's on tape for posterity.
I'm not talking about screaming for the sake of screaming, but he looks like a pussy on the treadmill and when lifting. The Richard Simmons workout.
It seems to be working for him, tough guy ::)
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He is mostly concerned about not getting injured and just maintaining while getting cut. Sure he might have more thickness and be better overall if he trained harder but he might also get injured. Training harder is not worth it to him. To each his own. I know I would not be able to half-ass it like that.
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What worked for him previously is not what he's doing now, you idiot.
I'm a few years older than him and would never consider training like a pussy, especially with a camera on me! Then there's just the issue of pride. He acts over the hill even though he's physically not.
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I am watching war of the world and it occurred to me that these guys are just punching the clock. They are taking minutes in between sets, joking around and playing games. Clearly pushing the work out is not the priority. He then makes the comment of listening to your body, is that euphemism for taking it easy?
Where is the training intensity? Where is the extra effort? There is a thread floating around about training intensity, clearly “supplements” such as vitamin c and a multi is playing the bigger role.
On a different note, thanks for the tip about training Bis. Mine are looking "fuller" because your tip talked about training the outer bi by doing close grips. I like most people over focus on wide grip thus training over training the inner bi.
I am sure Bob didn't get where he is today based what he shows on the Fit Show training segments. You have to understand these are segments primarily aimed towards showing a GLIMPSE of the BBer lifestyle. When you've got a camera in your face (and I will guarantee the footage is heavily edited for appeal) you play it up every once in a while.
You think anyone that trained with Tom Prince knows what intensity means. Bob says it himself, training with Prince is no joke.
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What worked for him previously is not what he's doing now, you idiot.
I'm a few years older than him and would never consider training like a pussy, especially with a camera on me! Then there's just the issue of pride. He acts over the hill even though he's physically not.
That is what he was doing before. He is not a gung-ho, bleed from the eyes kind of trainer. You are a few years older than Bob? Then act like it.
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Were you with him previously? His training confirms the stereotype of bodybuilders as non-athletic pumpers that this moron can look up to.
Fortunately not all follow the Chick routines.
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Were you with him previously? If that's true it confirms all the worst things about bodybuilders as non-athletes, pump artists that this moron can look up to.
I read about his training in Flex magazine, which is almost like being in the room with him.
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You are a few years older than Bob? Then act like it.
No he's not, he's a 17-year old punk.
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No he's not, he's a 17-year old punk.
Hahahahaha...Pumpster. It's a shame that people like him have to lie on the internet ;D
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Anyone in the media like Bob should've anticipated how that lameass training would look to others-it's hard to respect someone going through the motions. Is "maintain" enough? The term pathetic comes to mind-if you love it some degree of intensity would be second-nature. Especially in front of the camera, be saavy enough to at least fake it, it's on tape for posterity.
I'm not talking about screaming for the sake of screaming, but he looks like a pussy on the treadmill and when lifting. The Richard Simmons workout.
what do you want him to do on a treadmill???Have you ever seen Cutler on a treadmill??The guy is 40...To burn Fat, his heart rate only has to be between 99 and about 130...A walk on the beach in the sand and he would be burning fat the same as a 20 year old running at a good clip..
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Yeah....he should have done like that moron Greg Valentino did and show the world the "real side of bodybuilding"...NOT train like a pussy...Greg Valentino looks like shit,acts like shit...and don't know shit...so maybe they should have had him in the video with Chic... what's your opinion of Greg Valentino PUMPSTER? 8)
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Damn you guys are harsh...Bob Chic is in fact an elite top level pro.
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Damn you guys are harsh...Bob Chic is in fact an elite top level pro.
hahahahahahaha!
sure beats your BEASTLY 12 posts!!! hahahahahahahahahah
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Unfortunately Chick's basically training like GV. At least fake it for the camera!
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hahahahahahaha!
sure beats your BEASTLY 12 posts!!! hahahahahahahahahah
lol damn you're stupid. :-*
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In Chicks defence it's just not him that doesn't train hard, it's about 90% of the pro's out there and if you think I'm kidding just walk into a gym where some of the pros train. Don't let the videos fool you, they only do it for the camera. In reality...there is no intensity.
I somewhat agree with your statement. Art Atwood works out at my gym and you should see how really intense he is. Takes breaks like there's no tomarrow. I am sure some of the pros do train hard but for the most part it's probably just for the camera. However I do believe there are exceptions like Ronnie, Shawn, Kevin, etc.... With all the massive amounts of gear these guys take it probably wouldn't matter anyways, right? Or maybe it's genetics ;D
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of coarse it's all for the camera
it's a fake sport based on juice
to sell diet suppliments
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I read that Flex article on Bob's training. Those who go through the motions aren't going out of their way in articles to tell you that the pictures are deceptive.
Fortunately there are some who train seriously like Ron, Yates, Menter, Scott. The others further emphasize the overall phony, unathletic nature of BB that is almost in the wrestling category.
Bob's training footage is not inspiring for the "sport" he claims to want to promote.
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hahahahahahaha!
sure beats your BEASTLY 12 posts!!! hahahahahahahahahah
ROFL!!
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Were you with him previously? His training confirms the stereotype of bodybuilders as non-athletic pumpers that this moron can look up to.
Fortunately not all follow the Chick routines.
i do! im lazy but i want to be big. chick is my hero ;D
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bob chicks training....
hmmm
obvioulsy works for him...
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but naw.. not for me...
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;D
u dont like bob very much do u?
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Not since he insulted "queers", "obese people like onlyme", and a score of other ethnic/orientation/handicapped groups.
not everybody can be as perfect as Bob "25 years to get my pro card" Chicerillo. ::)
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when...?
where?
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not everybody can be as perfect as Bob "25 years to get my pro card" Chicerillo. ::)
he got "looked over" ::)
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Maybe he refused it a couple of times?
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You got to give Bob credit, he destroyed Frankie Muniz when he was on "Malcolm in the Middle". Made him look like a kid...
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what did he do on that show?
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what did he do on that show?
He managed to earn about .0005% of what Frankie Muniz earned for the episode.
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you know that's not what i wanted to know.