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Title: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: MCWAY on January 29, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
Well, The Styles vs. Cena World title match just started.

I'm hoping that, if Goldberg does win the Rumble, they take him off Raw and move him to Smackdown. If Cena also beat Styles for the title, that would be THE matchup I'd want to see.

If the Streak were still alive, I'd be pining for a Goldberg-Taker matchup. But, so much for that.

Who do you think wins the Rumble.

I'd say Goldberg.....or as my upset pick (if he's cleared to compete), Finn Balor.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: CENA vs. Goldberg at 'Mania?
Post by: MCWAY on January 29, 2017, 06:22:18 PM
Well, half the equation is complete. Cena has the WWE World title again.

Now, let's see who wins the Rumble. I'm thinking either someone from Smackdown gets it. Or, if it goes as I think it will, Goldberg will win it and jump ship from Raw to Smackdown.

However, Cena has to defend the title at Elimination Chamber. That might be a setup for a 'Mania swerve.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTONS WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: MCWAY on January 29, 2017, 07:42:45 PM
I certainly didn't see this coming. Originally, I thought Cena and Goldberg might dance. But, once again, they let Goldberg punk Lesnar....one spear and up and over the top went the Beast.

Then Goldberg speared the Undertaker....Taker sits up and chucks Goldberg out. Next, out of the blue, Reigns is number 30 and he tosses Taker after Taker threw him out but didn't get Reigns to hit the floor.

Reigns ultimately got RKO'ed, attempting a spear; out he goes; and, Orton wins the Rumble.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Grape Ape on January 30, 2017, 02:26:48 PM
Thought Owens / Regins was good with a crazy table spot.  Looked painful.

Styles / Cena was awesome with a great finish.

Reigns being #30 was stupid.  I know we suspend disbelief, but if you get hit with brass knuckles and get the living shit kicked out of you, you shouldn't return, let alone eliminate the top guys.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: MCWAY on January 30, 2017, 05:49:07 PM
Thought Owens / Regins was good with a crazy table spot.  Looked painful.

Styles / Cena was awesome with a great finish.

Reigns being #30 was stupid.  I know we suspend disbelief, but if you get hit with brass knuckles and get the living shit kicked out of you, you shouldn't return, let alone eliminate the top guys.

I have a feeling Reigns replaced somebody else, originally scheduled to be in the Rumble. They let Cesaro and Sheamus enter the Rumble after losing the tag titles. Actually, I don't see why they let Cesaro and Sheamus beat New Day for the titles, if they were just placeholders for Gallows and Anderson.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 31, 2017, 02:38:16 PM
A better finish would have been Brock and Goldberg as the last two and they eliminate each other at the same time.  So both are co winners, then at Wrestlemania, they have a match where the winner gets a title shot immediately afterwards.

Of course, Vince hasn't done anything but shit on his own brand for decades now.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: MCWAY on January 31, 2017, 05:25:51 PM
A better finish would have been Brock and Goldberg as the last two and they eliminate each other at the same time.  So both are co winners, then at Wrestlemania, they have a match where the winner gets a title shot immediately afterwards.

Of course, Vince hasn't done anything but shit on his own brand for decades now.

I'd say more over the last 3-5 years, PARTICULARLY at WM30.

Think about what a Goldberg-Undertaker match would have been, with the Deadman's streak still intact.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 01, 2017, 06:47:29 AM
A better finish would have been Brock and Goldberg as the last two and they eliminate each other at the same time.  So both are co winners, then at Wrestlemania, they have a match where the winner gets a title shot immediately afterwards.

Of course, Vince hasn't done anything but shit on his own brand for decades now.

What's the endgame of Goldberg continuing to get the upper hand on Lesnar?   Lesnar "revenge" at WM?

I hope they don't waste Taker with Reigns.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: CalvinH on February 01, 2017, 06:55:20 AM
What's the endgame of Goldberg continuing to get the upper hand on Lesnar?   Lesnar "revenge" at WM?

I hope they don't waste Taker with Reigns.

I caught a bit Monday night and it looked like a Reigns/Strauman rivalry is starting.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 01, 2017, 07:01:18 AM
I caught a bit Monday night and it looked like a Reigns/Strauman rivalry is starting.

The need to make Reigns heel and just go ballistic.

The smartfans hate him.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: CalvinH on February 01, 2017, 08:32:13 AM
The need to make Reigns heel and just go ballistic.

The smartfans hate him.


No doubt he'd make a great heel.I read an interview with him on ESPN and he mentioned his twitter account and how a few pornstars follow him.one even took the stage name Romi Rains ;D


...not that I checked her out after reading the interview or anything like that!
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Playboy on February 01, 2017, 09:42:45 AM
The need to make Reigns heel and just go ballistic.

The smartfans hate him.
I am inclined to agree here. As a face he stinks...as a heel with a mouth piece he will do wonders.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: MCWAY on February 01, 2017, 06:20:22 PM
What's the endgame of Goldberg continuing to get the upper hand on Lesnar?   Lesnar "revenge" at WM?

I hope they don't waste Taker with Reigns.

They need some specialty match for 'Mania. I was thinking an Iron Man match or an "I Quit" match. We know Goldberg can beat Lesnar quickly. Let's see if he can beat him into submission.

As for Undertaker, I just can't get hyped about matches for him at the big dance anymore. Without the Streak, it just doesn't work.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: MCWAY on February 01, 2017, 06:22:10 PM
The need to make Reigns heel and just go ballistic.

The smartfans hate him.

But, the "smartfans" don't buy the merch.

The "smartfans" hate Cena too. But, the kids and women gobble up his gear like Pac-Man with a buffet of power pellets.

Besides, Reigns was the hottest babyface in WWE during for most of 2014. People loved him, until he won the 2015 Rumble because everybody was geeked on Daniel Bryan winning the event.

Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 02, 2017, 11:01:32 AM
But, the "smartfans" don't buy the merch.

The "smartfans" hate Cena too. But, the kids and women gobble up his gear like Pac-Man with a buffet of power pellets.

Besides, Reigns was the hottest babyface in WWE during for most of 2014. People loved him, until he won the 2015 Rumble because everybody was geeked on Daniel Bryan winning the event.



Feels like they're coming around on Cena.  The Styles match may have swayed them.

I agree with you on the merch.....Reigns is just boring - you can hear the boos too from the crowd.  Maybe it's a dynamic they're just stuck with.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: MCWAY on February 04, 2017, 07:15:15 PM
Feels like they're coming around on Cena.  The Styles match may have swayed them.

I agree with you on the merch.....Reigns is just boring - you can hear the boos too from the crowd.  Maybe it's a dynamic they're just stuck with.

He's the same guy he was during the tail end of the Shield's run. He was THE babyface until the 2015 Royal Rumble.

These fans were THAT pissed that Daniel Bryan didn't win the Rumble that they're still taking it out on Reigns two years later?

As for Cena, the "smartfans" just love to hate him. When he's gone, all you hear is how boring Raw/Smackdown is and how there's no top babyface. Then when Cena comes back, it's business as usual.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Playboy on February 15, 2017, 04:35:33 AM
Cena wins again...yawn....sleep... snore....and yet another insult to Flair's reign.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: MCWAY on March 07, 2017, 09:40:21 PM
What's the endgame of Goldberg continuing to get the upper hand on Lesnar?   Lesnar "revenge" at WM?

I hope they don't waste Taker with Reigns.

Your hopes have been dashed. It's 'Taker and Reigns at WrestleMania.

Big deal!! No title, NO STREAK!!!
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: calfzilla on March 08, 2017, 06:27:47 PM
Your hopes have been dashed. It's 'Taker and Reigns at WrestleMania.

Big deal!! No title, NO STREAK!!!

But "it's my yard," "no it's my yard!"  ::)
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Playboy on March 09, 2017, 09:57:23 AM
But "it's my yard," "no it's my yard!"  ::)
Hurting, isn't it?
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: MCWAY on March 09, 2017, 10:45:32 PM
Hurting, isn't it?

I see no point to this. Just because Reigns chucked 'Taker out of the Rumble, it's worthy of a WrestleMania match?


If the Streak were intact, I'd argue this is a main-event match, especially with both world title matches (Wyatt v. Orton & Goldberg v. Lesnar) having the potential to be snoozefest (especially Goldberg and Lesnar).
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Playboy on March 14, 2017, 06:22:11 AM
I see no point to this. Just because Reigns chucked 'Taker out of the Rumble, it's worthy of a WrestleMania match?


If the Streak were intact, I'd argue this is a main-event match, especially with both world title matches (Wyatt v. Orton & Goldberg v. Lesnar) having the potential to be snoozefest (especially Goldberg and Lesnar).
I was hoping for a Strowman vs Undertaker match tbh. Now apparently they dropped the Show vs Shaq match too.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Grape Ape on March 18, 2017, 10:47:21 AM
I hope they don't waste Taker with Reigns.

Well crap.

Hearing they will have him win, setting up Lesnar / Reigns for the future as the only two who have beating Taker at WM.   ::)
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: njflex on March 21, 2017, 10:37:15 AM
taker doesn't work fulltime anymore what could have been interesting if bray wyatt could have controlled taker in a old time storyline ..
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Playboy on March 22, 2017, 04:25:26 AM
Well crap.

Hearing they will have him win, setting up Lesnar / Reigns for the future as the only two who have beating Taker at WM.   ::)
That's exactly what they are doing....force feeding Reigns down everyone's throat by trying to give him instant credibility by wrestling a 50 plus year old Undertaker who hasn't worked a full tim schedule with WWE in 6 years....
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: MCWAY on March 26, 2017, 10:41:15 AM
That's exactly what they are doing....force feeding Reigns down everyone's throat by trying to give him instant credibility by wrestling a 50 plus year old Undertaker who hasn't worked a full tim schedule with WWE in 6 years....

I don't get the force-feeding Reigns thing. Before his hernia injury in late 2014, he was the hottest thing going. All this mess started because the Philly fans wanted Daniel Bryan to win the 2015 Rumble. When Reigns won it instead, he suddenly became the scapegoat.

Nobody was going to by Bryan taking the belt from Lesnar at 'Mania. So, what would have been the point of having Daniel Bryan winning the Rumble?

Plus, how much credibility would Reigns have beating 'Taker at the big dance without the Streak being part of the equation? Beating the Deadman at a non-WrestleMania event doesn't equate to credibility. Remember that Vladimir Koslov beat 'Taker clean on Smackdown in late 2008/early 2009. It didn't do him any good.
Title: Re: 2017 Royal Rumble: ORTON WINS THE RUMBLE; CENA = 16X World Champion.
Post by: Playboy on March 27, 2017, 05:54:15 AM
I don't get the force-feeding Reigns thing. Before his hernia injury in late 2014, he was the hottest thing going. All this mess started because the Philly fans wanted Daniel Bryan to win the 2015 Rumble. When Reigns won it instead, he suddenly became the scapegoat.

Nobody was going to by Bryan taking the belt from Lesnar at 'Mania. So, what would have been the point of having Daniel Bryan winning the Rumble?

Plus, how much credibility would Reigns have beating 'Taker at the big dance without the Streak being part of the equation? Beating the Deadman at a non-WrestleMania event doesn't equate to credibility. Remember that Vladimir Koslov beat 'Taker clean on Smackdown in late 2008/early 2009. It didn't do him any good.
This article below would describe it best...
 
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/01/02/wwe-fans-hate-roman-reigns-askbc/