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The "supposed" Dallas Mc Carver anabolic cycle from Chad Nicholls !!! :o ::) :-\
in a nutshell :
-Serostim 12 iu +Humantrophe 10 iu a day (total 22 iu a day)
-Humulin R mixed with Humalog 20-25 iu 6 to 8 times a day
-Lantus insulin 100 iu in the morning
-Increlex IGF1 10-15 mg on training day
-Anapolon (Anadrol) 100mg 3 to 4 time a day (total 300-400 mg a day)
-EPO 70-100 iu a day
-Halotestin 10 mg 4 times a day (total 40 mg a day) 8 weeks on -8 weeks off
-Masteron 100 mg a day
- T3 (Cytomel) 25 mg 3 times a day (total 75 mg a day)
- NPP (Nandrolone) 1000 mg a week
-Primobolan 1000 mg a week
-Winstrol tabs 100 mg a day
-Nolvadex 40 mg a day or Arimidex 1 mg every other day
-Trenbolone (long acting) 1000 mg a week
-Trenbolone Ace 1400 mg a week
-Test Enhantate 800 mg a week
-Test Suspension 1400 mg a week
-Sustanon 1250 mg a week
-Boldenone 1200 mg a week
-Proviron 150 mg a day
-TUDCA ( for detox purpose)
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Seems overly complicated. ???
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that amount would kill someone......
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Forgot the mercury based diuretics
Damn on that protocol you get a hot game of Call of Duty going and miss 30min and don’t eat you’re fucked
I used to time my slin perfect (when I’d run a lot) but a lot of times when I had a girlfriend I’d fuck it up somehow , remember driving breaking out in a damn insta-sweat, not knowing where I was driving to and having an awful thirst , hulk smashing a sun drop for a few extra minutes of life /consiousnous
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Sustanon eth suspension make no sense...why take all 3 also why cynomel..he was on a ton of GH and tren to burn the fat. Stupid amount of insulin as well. His cycle was like hunting a deer with a bazooka...OVERKILL!
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Don't worry, a little milk thistle and you'll be fine...
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that amount would kill someone......
Certainly the TUDCA would counter the ill effects of all those drugs ::)
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22 iu of growth hormone in a DAY? That's ridiculous.
Of course this could be bull - I remember in 2005 on MuscleMayhem, someone said/suggested that Ronnie did 12 iu of growth daily. While that was VERY high, it was not outside of the realm of possibility. But I don't think he was taking that much.
Didn't Gary Strydom claim to be taking 4 ius daily at his biggest? Or was that Lou Ferrigno upon his return to the Olympia stage? It was one of them, and the claim was 4-6 daily. Around there.
That board was delusional though. Do you remember in 2005 when the IFBB mandated that pro bodybuilders reduce in size by 15%? Someone said "Well, Ronnie could always lower his dosages." Someone responded "How do you know that will make him smaller?"
LOL.
Yeah, because Ronnie was just taking drugs for the sake of taking drugs, and could just reduce his dosages without losing any size. ::) LOL. Seriously, why even do certain dosages if you could reduce them without losing size? Leave it to Mayhem to be such monumental nuthuggers of pro bodybuilders though.
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Or you can just buy a bunch of duck eggs and get the same results.
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22 iu of growth hormone in a DAY? That's ridiculous.
Of course this could be bull - I remember in 2005 on MuscleMayhem, someone said/suggested that Ronnie did 12 iu of growth daily. While that was VERY high, it was not outside of the realm of possibility. But I don't think he was taking that much.
Didn't Gary Strydom claim to be taking 4 ius daily at his biggest? Or was that Lou Ferrigno upon his return to the Olympia stage? It was one of them, and the claim was 4-6 daily. Around there.
That board was delusional though. Do you remember in 2005 when the IFBB mandated that pro bodybuilders reduce in size by 15%? Someone said "Well, Ronnie could always lower his dosages." Someone responded "How do you know that will make him smaller?"
LOL.
Yeah, because Ronnie was just taking drugs for the sake of taking drugs, and could just reduce his dosages without losing any size. ::) LOL. Seriously, why even do certain dosages if you could reduce them without losing size? Leave it to Mayhem to be such monumental nuthuggers of pro bodybuilders though.
Matt, you are out of your depth here on this subject. The prescribed Serostim dosage for HIV+ patients is up to 18iu a day. Several otherwise reliable sources have said Ronnie did 36iu a day at some points in his career. The reason most don't do that much is cost. Nasser also said he had done 30iu. Lots of amateurs and pros have experimented with very high gh, around 40iu.
The orals is what jumps out as an immediate danger. The TUDCA may help a little for bile flow and to prevent cholestasis and jaundice but this is a ton of orals.
This is also how you get the most out of insulin, 100iu Lantus as base. Not good in the long run but it will make you big.
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Matt, you are out of your depth here on this subject. The prescribed Serostim dosage for HIV+ patients is up to 18iu a day. Several otherwise reliable sources have said Ronnie did 36iu a day at some points in his career. The reason most don't do that much is cost. Nasser also said he had done 30iu. Lots of amateurs and pros have experimented with very high gh, around 40iu.
The orals is what jumps out as an immediate danger. The TUDCA may help a little for bile flow and to prevent cholestasis and jaundice but this is a ton of orals.
This is also how you get the most out of insulin, 100iu Lantus as base. Not good in the long run but it will make you big.
Van_Bilderass what is your opinion on this cycle ?
Do you think is credible or just a bullshit from a troll ? ? ?
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22 iu of growth hormone in a DAY? That's ridiculous.
Of course this could be bull - I remember in 2005 on MuscleMayhem, someone said/suggested that Ronnie did 12 iu of growth daily. While that was VERY high, it was not outside of the realm of possibility. But I don't think he was taking that much.
Didn't Gary Strydom claim to be taking 4 ius daily at his biggest? Or was that Lou Ferrigno upon his return to the Olympia stage? It was one of them, and the claim was 4-6 daily. Around there.
That board was delusional though. Do you remember in 2005 when the IFBB mandated that pro bodybuilders reduce in size by 15%? Someone said "Well, Ronnie could always lower his dosages." Someone responded "How do you know that will make him smaller?"
LOL.
Yeah, because Ronnie was just taking drugs for the sake of taking drugs, and could just reduce his dosages without losing any size. ::) LOL. Seriously, why even do certain dosages if you could reduce them without losing size? Leave it to Mayhem to be such monumental nuthuggers of pro bodybuilders though.
says the man who claims natty???
Dosage increase doesn't always give size increase and vice versa
I have taken 3 times what I normally took in the past and didn't notice any difference whatsoever....
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Dullass
That's 3.5 grams of test not 10
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Where would someone find injection spots for all the shit listed in this ridiculous cycle?
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The cycle is bullshit. End of story.
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The "supposed" Dallas Mc Carver anabolic cycle from Chad Nicholls !!! :o ::) :-\
in a nutshell :
-Serostim 12 iu +Humantrophe 10 iu a day (total 22 iu a day)
-Humulin R mixed with Humalog 20-25 iu 6 to 8 times a day
-Lantus insulin 100 iu in the morning
-Increlex IGF1 10-15 mg on training day
-Anapolon (Anadrol) 100mg 3 to 4 time a day (total 300-400 mg a day)
-EPO 70-100 iu a day
-Halotestin 10 mg 4 times a day (total 40 mg a day) 8 weeks on -8 weeks off
-Masteron 100 mg a day 7ml
- T3 (Cytomel) 25 mg 3 times a day (total 75 mg a day)
- NPP (Nandrolone) 1000 mg a week @ 100mg/ml thats 10ml
-Primobolan 1000 mg a week @ 100mg/ml thats 10ml
-Winstrol tabs 100 mg a day
-Nolvadex 40 mg a day or Arimidex 1 mg every other day
-Trenbolone (long acting) 1000 mg a week @ 200mg/ml thats 5ml
-Trenbolone Ace 1400 mg a week @ 100mg thats 14ml
-Test Enhantate 800 mg a week @ 250mg/ml thats 3ish ml
-Test Suspension 1400 mg a week @ 100mg/ml thats 14ml
-Sustanon 1250 mg a week @ 250 thats 5ml
-Boldenone 1200 mg a week @ 300mg/ml thats 4ml
-Proviron 150 mg a day
-TUDCA ( for detox purpose)
70+ml a week....
K'den ::) ::) ::) ::)
GH/slin/Increlex is on point for a pro, the rest is a bit of a stretch all together...
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The "supposed" Dallas Mc Carver anabolic cycle from Chad Nicholls !!! :o ::) :-\
in a nutshell :
-Serostim 18 iu +Humantrophe 10 iu a day (total 28 iu a day)
-Humulin R mixed with Humalog 20-25 iu 6 to 8 times a day
-Lantus insulin 100 iu in the morning
-Increlex IGF1 10-15 mg on training day
-Anapolon (Anadrol) 200 mg pre workout
- T3 (Cytomel) 25 mcg 3 times a day (total 75 mcg a day)
- NPP (Nandrolone) 1000 mg a week
-Trenbolone Ace 1050 mg a week
-Test Enhantate 3000 mg a week
-Test Suspension 200mg pre workout
-Sustanon 1500 mg a week
-Boldenone 1200 mg a week
Fixed for a 300+lb BB
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That's 8.5 grams of injectables
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Forgot the mercury based diuretics
Damn on that protocol you get a hot game of Call of Duty going and miss 30min and don’t eat you’re fucked
I used to time my slin perfect (when I’d run a lot) but a lot of times when I had a girlfriend I’d fuck it up somehow , remember driving breaking out in a damn insta-sweat, not knowing where I was driving to and having an awful thirst , hulk smashing a sun drop for a few extra minutes of life /consiousnous
:D
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This is also how you get the most out of insulin, 100iu Lantus as base. Not good in the long run but it will make you big.
50iu is the highest I went with Lantus. 20iu of Huma in 2 x 10iu doses alongside.
Full as a house 24/7, pumps writing text messages and constantly hungry.
100iu would be insane...
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Or you can just buy a bunch of duck eggs and get the same results.
Or Kevin Levrone Signature Series.
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The "supposed" Dallas Mc Carver anabolic cycle from Chad Nicholls !!! :o ::) :-\
in a nutshell :
-Serostim 12 iu +Humantrophe 10 iu a day (total 22 iu a day)
-Humulin R mixed with Humalog 20-25 iu 6 to 8 times a day
-Lantus insulin 100 iu in the morning
-Increlex IGF1 10-15 mg on training day
-Anapolon (Anadrol) 100mg 3 to 4 time a day (total 300-400 mg a day)
-EPO 70-100 iu a day
-Halotestin 10 mg 4 times a day (total 40 mg a day) 8 weeks on -8 weeks off
-Masteron 100 mg a day
- T3 (Cytomel) 25 mg 3 times a day (total 75 mg a day)
- NPP (Nandrolone) 1000 mg a week
-Primobolan 1000 mg a week
-Winstrol tabs 100 mg a day
-Nolvadex 40 mg a day or Arimidex 1 mg every other day
-Trenbolone (long acting) 1000 mg a week
-Trenbolone Ace 1400 mg a week
-Test Enhantate 800 mg a week
-Test Suspension 1400 mg a week
-Sustanon 1250 mg a week
-Boldenone 1200 mg a week
-Proviron 150 mg a day
-TUDCA ( for detox purpose)
Chad is keenly aware of Nolvafex's negative effect on IGF-1 levels, so draw your own conclusions on whether or not the above is his advice.
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Don't believe this whatsoever looks retarded
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Chad should be in jail!!
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Matt, you are out of your depth here on this subject. The prescribed Serostim dosage for HIV+ patients is up to 18iu a day. Several otherwise reliable sources have said Ronnie did 36iu a day at some points in his career. The reason most don't do that much is cost. Nasser also said he had done 30iu. Lots of amateurs and pros have experimented with very high gh, around 40iu.
The orals is what jumps out as an immediate danger. The TUDCA may help a little for bile flow and to prevent cholestasis and jaundice but this is a ton of orals.
This is also how you get the most out of insulin, 100iu Lantus as base. Not good in the long run but it will make you big.
Well, good sir - I think one thing you may know about me is that I am fully willing to admit when I am out of my depth in a particular subject area, and cede territory to those who obviously have far more expertise - such as yourself. ;)
I know certain topics very well - pro level gear usage is not one of those topics. That said, I can form certain positions based on threads I have read online, as well as what pros themselves have told me. I have found that pros are extremely open to sharing their cycles with other people. Some may say that they can't speak about it, or change the subject [I have never asked directly - merely overheard other people shooting the breeze with pros, and got a lot of good info that way].
When someone suggested that Ronnie used 12 ius of GH daily [or 16 ius, I can't recall - it's been over a decade since I read that], another person called him out on that. But this was Mayhem, where everyone catered to pros, and were unwilling to even offend them slightly. So to be honest, I would not be surprised if Ronnie did use 12-16+ ius of GH daily. I found that MuscleMayhem was often in denial.
But as you said, the cost would be prohibitive for many, so I don't see every Mr. Olympia competitor being able to afford it. And that's kind of sad - you have Mr. Olympia earning around $1 million to $1.5 million per year, with #2 to #10 earning $150,000+, and guys outside of the top 10 earning under six figures and still requiring jobs as personal trainers to pay the bills. :-\
Do you recall that video that Jay Cutler did with Bodybuilding.com? Live Large? In that video, he stated he spent a whopping $100,000 a year just on deep tissue massages!! He also said he spent $100,000 per year on...food I think - or was it just sushi alone? That would be $275 a day. But he spent, in his words a "hundred grand" on deep tissue massage, and another "hundred grand" on something else. I just can't recall if it was food, or something else.
Think about that - if Jay was basically just throwing around $100,000 on individual components of bodybuilding, is there any reason why he would not be willing to spend $100,000 on GH, or steroids, or some other drugs - or even $100,000 on every single one of these categories of PEDs?
Meanwhile, you have guys placing outside of the top 15 who literally can't afford to make it to the Olympia.
Do you remember in 2010 when Melvin Anthony stated that he couldn't afford to compete at the Mr. Olympia that year? :-\ So you have a bodybuilder who won the Phoenix Pro, and was definitely in or around the top 10 in the world not being able to afford to compete. Basically, you have a situation where the top three bodybuilders can afford far more gear than those placing 10 spots lower. :-\
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It's bullshit.
Boldenone and nandrolone were not detected in the autopsy report. And they're long-acting with very long detection periods. Also, winstrol, anadrol, primo, and masteron were not detected. The autopsy found huge amounts of testosterone -- probably well in excess of 3-5g -- as well as trenbolone.
Dallas was on a basic test+tren+peptides/GH/Insulin stack. A very high-dosed one, but nothing too fancy.
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says the man who claims natty???
Dosage increase doesn't always give size increase and vice versa
I have taken 3 times what I normally took in the past and didn't notice any difference whatsoever....
I can't...stop...making tl;dr posts!!! ARRRRRGGGGHH. :-X
I agree with you that increasing dosages does not necessarily mean that size will increase...but you would think a pro at Ronnie's level would have an idea of how much gear is necessary vs. overkill. Why use triple the amount of drugs if they won't help increase size? Especially given that there is the risk of side effects increasing as dosages increase...so you would think that pros would basically be attempting to use what they need, and not use much more if more gear does not produce more mass.
The post was funny because on Mayhem, no one could admit that pros were anything less than genetic Gods...the moment you pointed out something like PEDs being a huge factor in bodybuilding, people would attack you. So you had to basically praise pro bodybuilders, and the notion that Ronnie Coleman reducing his gear volume would reduce his size in any way was tantamount to blasphemy.
In any case, I realize you have a lot of experience in this area, Be There. I would like to make my posts as clear and concise as possible, but I hate to constantly qualify every single sentence I type, causing my posts to get longer and longer and longer...
Ultimately what I am saying is that 22 ius of GH is a massive amount of GH...not impossible, but still ridiculously high. A friend of mine took 150mg of Anadrol a day, and I remember thinking to myself WOW...a newbie with a good response could probably respond on 10% of that amount.
Anyway, I need not go on here. For the record, I don't overly question your posts regarding competition. I know you quite know WTH you are talking about here. Still though...some of the numbers I hear when it comes to dosages still blows me away. :o
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The supposed Dallas cycle is a cycle posted on GH15's board in 2014
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When I saw "in a nutshell", I stopped reading.
Between the original post and Matt's drivel, this thread smells to high heaven of bullshit.
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I can't...stop...making tl;dr posts!!! ARRRRRGGGGHH. :-X
I agree with you that increasing dosages does not necessarily mean that size will increase...but you would think a pro at Ronnie's level would have an idea of how much gear is necessary vs. overkill. Why use triple the amount of drugs if they won't help increase size? Especially given that there is the risk of side effects increasing as dosages increase...so you would think that pros would basically be attempting to use what they need, and not use much more if more gear does not produce more mass.
The post was funny because on Mayhem, no one could admit that pros were anything less than genetic Gods...the moment you pointed out something like PEDs being a huge factor in bodybuilding, people would attack you. So you had to basically praise pro bodybuilders, and the notion that Ronnie Coleman reducing his gear volume would reduce his size in any way was tantamount to blasphemy.
In any case, I realize you have a lot of experience in this area, Be There. I would like to make my posts as clear and concise as possible, but I hate to constantly qualify every single sentence I type, causing my posts to get longer and longer and longer...
Ultimately what I am saying is that 22 ius of GH is a massive amount of GH...not impossible, but still ridiculously high. A friend of mine took 150mg of Anadrol a day, and I remember thinking to myself WOW...a newbie with a good response could probably respond on 10% of that amount.
Anyway, I need not go on here. For the record, I don't overly question your posts regarding competition. I know you quite know WTH you are talking about here. Still though...some of the numbers I hear when it comes to dosages still blows me away. :o
why would any dosages shock you bearing in mind you are natty and have never used anything?
If you are a lifetime natty you have no idea what drugs do to your body or how it would respond, so really you dont have a worthwhile opinion on this topic at all, let alone a fucking wall of text.
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The supposed Dallas cycle is a cycle posted on GH15's board in 2014
that makes sense .that is the sort of sht that moron would recommend
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I can't...stop...making tl;dr posts!!! ARRRRRGGGGHH. :-X
I agree with you that increasing dosages does not necessarily mean that size will increase...but you would think a pro at Ronnie's level would have an idea of how much gear is necessary vs. overkill. Why use triple the amount of drugs if they won't help increase size? Especially given that there is the risk of side effects increasing as dosages increase...so you would think that pros would basically be attempting to use what they need, and not use much more if more gear does not produce more mass.
The post was funny because on Mayhem, no one could admit that pros were anything less than genetic Gods...the moment you pointed out something like PEDs being a huge factor in bodybuilding, people would attack you. So you had to basically praise pro bodybuilders, and the notion that Ronnie Coleman reducing his gear volume would reduce his size in any way was tantamount to blasphemy.
In any case, I realize you have a lot of experience in this area, Be There. I would like to make my posts as clear and concise as possible, but I hate to constantly qualify every single sentence I type, causing my posts to get longer and longer and longer...
Ultimately what I am saying is that 22 ius of GH is a massive amount of GH...not impossible, but still ridiculously high. A friend of mine took 150mg of Anadrol a day, and I remember thinking to myself WOW...a newbie with a good response could probably respond on 10% of that amount.
Anyway, I need not go on here. For the record, I don't overly question your posts regarding competition. I know you quite know WTH you are talking about here. Still though...some of the numbers I hear when it comes to dosages still blows me away. :o
The recommended dose for oxy is 1-5mg/kg. Medicinally. Normal effective range is 1-3mg/kg.
Why are you shocked at 150mg a day. You've been around this game long enough now mate...some 3rd tier pro used to have one with each meal....I remember his log, think it was over on PM or OLM
Matt, me and DD frequently conversed about high doses et al on your forum.....have you forgotten this. I mean I was slamming 2g a week in back then and quite open about everything and the stuff that came with it.
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why would any dosages shock you bearing in mind you are natty and have never used anything?
If you are a lifetime natty you have no idea what drugs do to your body or how it would respond, so really you dont have a worthwhile opinion on this topic at all, let alone a fucking wall of text.
I always harassed Matt back in the day because I saw exactly when he was playing with hormones from his pics. Not too long ago he admitted to it finally lol, but it was "tiny" amounts :D
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The "supposed" Dallas Mc Carver anabolic cycle from Chad Nicholls !!! :o ::) :-\
in a nutshell :
-Serostim 12 iu +Humantrophe 10 iu a day (total 22 iu a day)
-Humulin R mixed with Humalog 20-25 iu 6 to 8 times a day
-Lantus insulin 100 iu in the morning
-Increlex IGF1 10-15 mg on training day
-Anapolon (Anadrol) 100mg 3 to 4 time a day (total 300-400 mg a day)
-EPO 70-100 iu a day
-Halotestin 10 mg 4 times a day (total 40 mg a day) 8 weeks on -8 weeks off
-Masteron 100 mg a day
- T3 (Cytomel) 25 mg 3 times a day (total 75 mg a day)
- NPP (Nandrolone) 1000 mg a week
-Primobolan 1000 mg a week
-Winstrol tabs 100 mg a day
-Nolvadex 40 mg a day or Arimidex 1 mg every other day
-Trenbolone (long acting) 1000 mg a week
-Trenbolone Ace 1400 mg a week
-Test Enhantate 800 mg a week
-Test Suspension 1400 mg a week
-Sustanon 1250 mg a week
-Boldenone 1200 mg a week
-Proviron 150 mg a day
-TUDCA ( for detox purpose)
LMFAO
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why any bber would add EPO is beyond me and beyond any reasonable explanation
any guru advocating epo for bbers is a joker
this cycle is dismissed
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I always harassed Matt back in the day because I saw exactly when he was playing with hormones from his pics. Not too long ago he admitted to it finally lol, but it was "tiny" amounts :D
You harrassed me a bit also !! LOL :)
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I always harassed Matt back in the day because I saw exactly when he was playing with hormones from his pics. Not too long ago he admitted to it finally lol, but it was "tiny" amounts :D
Ha that explains a lot. Did he admit to it on GB or his own site back then?
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just a regular guy with a good, easy to maintain physique.
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Ha that explains a lot. Did he admit to it on GB or his own site back then?
No never and I thought it was silly. Why?
It was maybe a couple of months ago on here where he said he may have dabbled. :D
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You harrassed me a bit also !! LOL :)
Not too much I hope, I always liked you. :D
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why any bber would add EPO is beyond me and beyond any reasonable explanation
any guru advocating epo for bbers is a joker
this cycle is dismissed
So every top coach is a joke? I agree
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::)
Interesting mix of drugs to say the least.
How did it work out for him.
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Nonsense.
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I can't...stop...making tl;dr posts!!! ARRRRRGGGGHH. :-X
I agree with you that increasing dosages does not necessarily mean that size will increase...but you would think a pro at Ronnie's level would have an idea of how much gear is necessary vs. overkill. Why use triple the amount of drugs if they won't help increase size? Especially given that there is the risk of side effects increasing as dosages increase...so you would think that pros would basically be attempting to use what they need, and not use much more if more gear does not produce more mass.
The post was funny because on Mayhem, no one could admit that pros were anything less than genetic Gods...the moment you pointed out something like PEDs being a huge factor in bodybuilding, people would attack you. So you had to basically praise pro bodybuilders, and the notion that Ronnie Coleman reducing his gear volume would reduce his size in any way was tantamount to blasphemy.
In any case, I realize you have a lot of experience in this area, Be There. I would like to make my posts as clear and concise as possible, but I hate to constantly qualify every single sentence I type, causing my posts to get longer and longer and longer...
Ultimately what I am saying is that 22 ius of GH is a massive amount of GH...not impossible, but still ridiculously high. A friend of mine took 150mg of Anadrol a day, and I remember thinking to myself WOW...a newbie with a good response could probably respond on 10% of that amount.
Anyway, I need not go on here. For the record, I don't overly question your posts regarding competition. I know you quite know WTH you are talking about here. Still though...some of the numbers I hear when it comes to dosages still blows me away. :o
how do i say this nicely...you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. please shut the fuck up!
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why any bber would add EPO is beyond me and beyond any reasonable explanation
any guru advocating epo for bbers is a joker
this cycle is dismissed
Doc huge and his friends advise it chief
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Seems overly complicated. ???
My thoughts exactly. Keeping track of all that seems ridiculous.
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Doc huge and his friends advise it chief
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
how do i say this nicely...you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. please shut the fuck up!
That's Well Said.
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Good thing EPO was added into the mix. His blood must've not been thick enough.
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How many of these guys have to Die before The Chad actually “Attends”one of their Funerals??
His athletes drop Dead and he goes MIA only to reappear with another eventual Suck errrr, Victim a year or two later as if we forgot about the Trail of Bodies??!!!!
Not!!!
RIP;
Nasser
Youngblood
Atwood
McCarver
And those are the ones we know about.
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How many of these guys have to Die before The Chad actually “Attends”one of their Funerals??
His athletes drop Dead and he goes MIA only to reappear with another eventual Suck errrr, Victim a year or two later as if we forgot about the Trail of Bodies??!!!!
Not!!!
RIP;
Nasser
Youngblood
Atwood
McCarver
And those are the ones we know about.
at the end of the day if the athletes he advises are dumb enough to follow such stupid advice then hes not the only one to blame.
What fucking moron would follow the protocol in this thread.
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What a bunch of bullshit. People are forgetting what was found in his blood.
He was on
Test
tren
GH
Increlex
Insulin
All the other stuff like peptides and similar stuff doesn't matter. I doubt they test for AI's. He was taking as much test as he could take, grams a week. Tren ace was probably 200 plus per day. Gh if pharma 20 IU's if cheap Chinese 30 plus. Increlex 10 to 20 MCGs daily and that's a fucking huge dose. Don't even compare it to the shit that's being sold on the net.
I personally know people who have done 20 to 30 IU's of China GH daily. Don't get me wrong it's good stuff but not on par with pharma stuff. I also know national level guys who use nothing but test tren GH IGF and slin and are big as a house using just that. So anyone who posts these stupid cycles doesn't know shit.
Oh and Shawn, they all do the same stuff. I'm not sure if Chad is still messing with diuretics like Bumex. I had a chat with Art Atwood about the doses he took and yes I don't agree with that but other than this Chad is not responsible for Dallas dieing. Your still pissed that he was training Ronnie and you can't let it go. Move on man and stop let it eat at you!!
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Maybe some pro's should actually discuss what they really do, especially retired pro's who don't have to worry about losing sponsors or contest placing being affected, steroids in bodybuilding is exposed now, it's not all mysterious and secretive like it was in the past. Maybe it would help save some people, because the only advice about steroids out there is coming from Bostin Loyd, Tony Huge, Rich Piana, now this stuff. Why not try and help the guys trying to go about this life and attempting to do things as safe and smart as possible.
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where does this cycle come from? what's the source?
who posted this shit?
why is anyone even giving it any attention as though this was his confirmed cycle?
as stated before: blood results don't lie, therein lies part of the facts, probably the only ones we will find out
this cycle is just a bunch of products thrown together, makes absolutely no sense
you could claim any such constructed cycle and any of those large amounts of gear as being Dallas cycle it actually makes no difference whatsoever
the only lesson we learn is monitor health seriously when taking gear
step back and address issues when they surface
dot simple
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How many of these guys have to Die before The Chad actually “Attends”one of their Funerals??
His athletes drop Dead and he goes MIA only to reappear with another eventual Suck errrr, Victim a year or two later as if we forgot about the Trail of Bodies??!!!!
Not!!!
RIP;
Nasser
Youngblood
Atwood
McCarver
And those are the ones we know about.
I knew Atwood a bit when he lived in Dallas, guy was a heavy rec user as well
Finally caught up to him all the shit he did when he had a heart attack and fell into the pool....
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What a bunch of bullshit. People are forgetting what was found in his blood.
He was on
Test
tren
GH
Increlex
Insulin
All the other stuff like peptides and similar stuff doesn't matter. I doubt they test for AI's. He was taking as much test as he could take, grams a week. Tren ace was probably 200 plus per day. Gh if pharma 20 IU's if cheap Chinese 30 plus. Increlex 10 to 20 MCGs daily and that's a fucking huge dose. Don't even compare it to the shit that's being sold on the net.
I personally know people who have done 20 to 30 IU's of China GH daily. Don't get me wrong it's good stuff but not on par with pharma stuff. I also know national level guys who use nothing but test tren GH IGF and slin and are big as a house using just that. So anyone who posts these stupid cycles doesn't know shit.
Oh and Shawn, they all do the same stuff. I'm not sure if Chad is still messing with diuretics like Bumex. I had a chat with Art Atwood about the doses he took and yes I don't agree with that but other than this Chad is not responsible for Dallas dieing. Your still pissed that he was training Ronnie and you can't let it go. Move on man and stop let it eat at you!!
Doesn’t high dosages of gh cause cancer? Or even low dosages?
Cause didn’t the autopsy find out that Dallas has early stages of throat cancer?
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People are forgetting what was found in his blood.
I don't know what kind of lab analysis was done to detect PEDs but there is no way Dallas only did test and tren for say the past 6-12 months. Either the detection window is shorter than we are led to believe or they didn't apply the super advanced analyses organizations like WADA employ. Nandrolones, boldenone etc are supposed to be detectable for over a year, even orals for several months.
Anyway, I agree that it's not really Chad's fault he died. The thing is that things like artherosclerosis and cardiomegaly can develop at way lower dosages too - every single athlete is taking chances no matter what coach they employ. Not to forget that Dallas had multiple coaches and already megadosed as a young kid, it's not like Dallas suddenly developed these problems the last few months he was alive. If we're going to point fingers we should point at the whole "sport".
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I don't know what kind of lab analysis was done to detect PEDs but there is no way Dallas only did test and tren for say the past 6-12 months. Either the detection window is shorter than we are led to believe or they didn't apply the super advanced analyses organizations like WADA employ. Nandrolones, boldenone etc are supposed to be detectable for over a year, even orals for several months.
Anyway, I agree that it's not really Chad's fault he died. The thing is that things like artherosclerosis and cardiomegaly can develop at way lower dosages too - every single athlete is taking chances no matter what coach they employ. Not to forget that Dallas had multiple coaches and already megadosed as a young kid, it's not like Dallas suddenly developed these problems the last few months he was alive. If we're going to point fingers we should point at the whole "sport".
check your pms bro
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Let's not forget Dallas had 55.000 ng/dl of testosterone... The guy pushed the limits for sure
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Let's not forget Dallas had 55.000 ng/dl of testosterone... The guy pushed the limits for sure
That's an extremely high test level. I sure hope Dallas doesn't just drop dead one of these days.
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I don't know what kind of lab analysis was done to detect PEDs but there is no way Dallas only did test and tren for say the past 6-12 months. Either the detection window is shorter than we are led to believe or they didn't apply the super advanced analyses organizations like WADA employ. Nandrolones, boldenone etc are supposed to be detectable for over a year, even orals for several months.
Anyway, I agree that it's not really Chad's fault he died. The thing is that things like artherosclerosis and cardiomegaly can develop at way lower dosages too - every single athlete is taking chances no matter what coach they employ. Not to forget that Dallas had multiple coaches and already megadosed as a young kid, it's not like Dallas suddenly developed these problems the last few months he was alive. If we're going to point fingers we should point at the whole "sport".
You dont think an all-you-can-eat buffet of test, tren, slin & gh could get you pro size & conditioning? I'm not really sure what boldenone or nandrolone would be able to add to that combination. Not that I think Dallas would have held back in any regard, but it just seems redundant to add a gram of EQ to a test/tren cycle that's already in the 10+ gram range
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Doesn’t high dosages of gh cause cancer? Or even low dosages?
Cause didn’t the autopsy find out that Dallas has early stages of throat cancer?
I believe that GH could potentially speed up the processes of tumor growth in general.
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You dont think an all-you-can-eat buffet of test, tren, slin & gh could get you pro size & conditioning? I'm not really sure what boldenone or nandrolone would be able to add to that combination. Not that I think Dallas would have held back in any regard, but it just seems redundant to add a gram of EQ to a test/tren cycle that's already in the 10+ gram range
I agree with you, it's not necessary to do multiple steroids, it's just that I think they all do more than test and tren for competitions. It's quite possible he was on just those two at the time of his death. I bet he was on some types of narcotics apart from the weed too but they probably only looked for a few specific ones.
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Doesn’t high dosages of gh cause cancer? Or even low dosages?
Cause didn’t the autopsy find out that Dallas has early stages of throat cancer?
no, gh is not carcinogenic
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no, gh is not carcinogenic
can be carcinogenic through its muscle building and cell proliferating offspring growth factor
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I don't know what kind of lab analysis was done to detect PEDs but there is no way Dallas only did test and tren for say the past 6-12 months. Either the detection window is shorter than we are led to believe or they didn't apply the super advanced analyses organizations like WADA employ. Nandrolones, boldenone etc are supposed to be detectable for over a year, even orals for several months.
Anyway, I agree that it's not really Chad's fault he died. The thing is that things like artherosclerosis and cardiomegaly can develop at way lower dosages too - every single athlete is taking chances no matter what coach they employ. Not to forget that Dallas had multiple coaches and already megadosed as a young kid, it's not like Dallas suddenly developed these problems the last few months he was alive. If we're going to point fingers we should point at the whole "sport".
I don't know even the shittiest labs can detect dozens of peds. My buddy got bust 12 years ago and he was tested for 15 months as part of his sentence and they came up with everything he took easily with one urine test. Plus like I said I know guys who do little else but test and tren. Do you really think they said hey lets test his test levels and oh yeah see if he was using tren? The guy that did the autopsy probably never heard of trenbolone till this.
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Doesn’t high dosages of gh cause cancer? Or even low dosages?
Cause didn’t the autopsy find out that Dallas has early stages of throat cancer?
I doubt it. People get cancer and thyroid cancer, two-thirds of the people who get it are between the age of 20 to 55.
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Total insanity. If true.
However, these guys are mostly bonkers, so I wouldn’t doubt it.
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what is the point in discussing a cycle that lacks a source?
good trolling on whoever put that shit out. apparantely anyone can release anything and people will discuss it, make threads about it, make videos about it etc.
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I don't know even the shittiest labs can detect dozens of peds. My buddy got bust 12 years ago and he was tested for 15 months as part of his sentence and they came up with everything he took easily with one urine test. Plus like I said I know guys who do little else but test and tren. Do you really think they said hey lets test his test levels and oh yeah see if he was using tren? The guy that did the autopsy probably never heard of trenbolone till this.
The woman that did the autopsy had a number of references/studies at the bottom of the page. Every study was about anabolic steroids including steroid testing. She did a thorough job looking for the cause of death and how each drug impacted the body. I was surprised at how in depth his was compared to Rich's.
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Do you recall that video that Jay Cutler did with Bodybuilding.com? Live Large? In that video, he stated he spent a whopping $100,000 a year just on deep tissue massages!! He also said he spent $100,000 per year on...food I think - or was it just sushi alone? That would be $275 a day. But he spent, in his words a "hundred grand" on deep tissue massage, and another "hundred grand" on something else. I just can't recall if it was food, or something else.
Think about that - if Jay was basically just throwing around $100,000 on individual components of bodybuilding, is there any reason why he would not be willing to spend $100,000 on GH, or steroids, or some other drugs - or even $100,000 on every single one of these categories of PEDs?
Meanwhile, you have guys placing outside of the top 15 who literally can't afford to make it to the Olympia.
Do you remember in 2010 when Melvin Anthony stated that he couldn't afford to compete at the Mr. Olympia that year? :-\ So you have a bodybuilder who won the Phoenix Pro, and was definitely in or around the top 10 in the world not being able to afford to compete. Basically, you have a situation where the top three bodybuilders can afford far more gear than those placing 10 spots lower. :-\
Blue part....I hope you did not actually take that seriously, ffs you are smarter than that?
Purple part..he from what we have seen from Melvin over the years among a few other is that unless he had some supp contrct feeding him 24/7 he sat on his ass and did fuck all except train,l play video games and think the muscleteach contrcts would last for ever while guys like Shawn, Jay and other pros hustled and branched out to as many things possible.
Melvin could not afford to comepte because it cost too much, he could not compete4 because he felt entitled and did not want to do nothing other than be sponsored, train, eat and play video games.
Doesn't matter what any of these guys did, legal or otherwise, the ones that hustled and worked made a life for themselves while the rest are barely scraping bu because they were lazy motherfuckers and did not capitalize on that small windown of small fame
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Blue part....I hope you did not actually take that seriously, ffs you are smarter than that?
Purple part..he from what we have seen from Melvin over the years among a few other is that unless he had some supp contrct feeding him 24/7 he sat on his ass and did fuck all except train,l play video games and think the muscleteach contrcts would last for ever while guys like Shawn, Jay and other pros hustled and branched out to as many things possible.
Melvin could not afford to comepte because it cost too much, he could not compete4 because he felt entitled and did not want to do nothing other than be sponsored, train, eat and play video games.
Doesn't matter what any of these guys did, legal or otherwise, the ones that hustled and worked made a life for themselves while the rest are barely scraping bu because they were lazy motherfuckers and did not capitalize on that small windown of small fame
Hey, hey. Melvin was a licensed pedicurist. And he went to or was going to Seminary School. And he he was one of the first guys to make the trek to the Middle East for guest posings and sponsorships. He was a trail blazer in that regards. Don't knock his hustle. Knock the quality of hustle.
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what is the point in discussing a cycle that lacks a source?
good trolling on whoever put that shit out. apparantely anyone can release anything and people will discuss it, make threads about it, make videos about it etc.
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I doubt it. People get cancer and thyroid cancer, two-thirds of the people who get it are between the age of 20 to 55.
why being so hypothetically positively superstitious? ofcourse ppl get cancers, but the link between andro anabolic LIFE (gh, igf, aas, the list is too long... and all its direct and indirect consequences) and (predisposed) tumorous conditions (at the very least) is extremely clear. there is no doubt about that
It's as if you were saying you are doubting the enlarged organs (or even his death) could come from the abuse of aas and gf's...
i wonder what his prostate looked like......
everything is linked
the rest is egg or chicken first blabber
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why being so hypothetically positively superstitious? ofcourse ppl get cancers, but the link between andro anabolic LIFE (gh, igf, aas, the list is too long... and all its direct and indirect consequences) and (predisposed) tumorous conditions (at the very least) is extremely clear. there is no doubt about that
It's as if you were saying you are doubting the enlarged organs (or even his death) could come from the abuse of aas and gf's...
i wonder what his prostate looked like......
everything is linked
the rest is egg or chicken first blabber
I said what I said, you are reading and adding way to much into it.
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no problem
what did u mean then
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The woman that did the autopsy had a number of references/studies at the bottom of the page. Every study was about anabolic steroids including steroid testing. She did a thorough job looking for the cause of death and how each drug impacted the body. I was surprised at how in depth his was compared to Rich's.
Have you nailed her yet?
If not when you do be sure and deep pound her tight asshole