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Title: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: texasRUSH on April 11, 2006, 08:30:11 AM
when it comes to gaining strength?  ???
Title: Re: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: GET_BIGGER on April 11, 2006, 08:42:32 AM
Not much, more for the seperation/definition of the pecs rather than a strength builder.  I mean they would have to benefit your lower range movement concerning your mass building excercises but if you start them for the first time I don't think they would add 10-20 pounds to your bench if thats what you mean.
Title: Re: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: blondmusclhunk on April 11, 2006, 02:46:24 PM
They seem to work inner mostly and some outer.  But If your just starting out definately concentrate on bench and incline.  I do use them as a finishing excercise however
Title: Re: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: Overload on April 11, 2006, 03:20:16 PM
They work your entire chest...do them after your pressing movements. concentrate on the stretch and squeeze of the muscle and don't worry about how much weight you use. high rep (10-20) cable flyes seem to make my chest explode after some good pressing.


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Title: Re: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: haider on April 11, 2006, 03:47:23 PM
Wont do shit for strength, I mean come on now! Other than that, what overload said..
Title: Re: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: blondmusclhunk on April 12, 2006, 10:30:36 AM
I agree with Overload cable flyes are awesome after you finish chest.
Title: Re: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: Royalty on April 13, 2006, 04:52:53 PM
I disagree 100% with anyone who says that heavy dumbell flyes are not good for strength. Dumbell flyes are the only exercise that put a full stretch on the pecs. Flyes will strengthen the bottom portion of your bench press. The pec tendon will benefit greatly from the stretch. Train heavy 8-10 reps
Title: Re: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: pumpster on April 13, 2006, 05:33:47 PM
Not for strength but in terms of development, cable incline/flat/decline flys & crossovers, pec deck & incline/flat/decline dumbbell flys are the best of all chest exercises IMO.

Cables do NOT have to be used only as finishing exercises, this is one of those myths.

Don't go below 8-12 reps, and warm up thorougly, to avoid shoulder probs.
Title: Re: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: triple_pickle on April 13, 2006, 09:03:13 PM
i do heavy flyes, 6-8 reps, and think they do help to gain strength.
Title: Re: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: haider on April 13, 2006, 10:25:24 PM
why use it as a strength exercise? I mean come on, its an iso, ure just asking for an injury by going heavy on it. Besides, msot of the stregnth in the bench press does NOT come from the chest, so its pretty ridiculous to say that improving your numbers on a fly movement will affect your bench numbers at all.
Title: Re: the effectivness of flyes...
Post by: coltrane on April 14, 2006, 07:43:17 AM
Remember, with any barbell or dumbbell pressing movement, you incorporate your shoulders and triceps to a large extent.  Flyes are a GREAT way to strengthen AND grow your chest, especially if you have big arms and shoulders (they to some of the work in pressing movements).  Need to stay in the 8-12 range..anything higher is too light and ineffective.   Also try Decline flyes..they are nice!