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Title: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Darren Avey on April 25, 2018, 10:52:01 AM
I find this more and more. ANyone blue belt and above has this arrogance about them. One kid of about 15 thinks he can beat up any boxer in a street fight!!
Yet last year I saw a BJJ black belt get his nose bitten off and nearly die at the hands of a rugby prop who wasn't even a trained fighter!
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: robcguns on April 25, 2018, 10:56:42 AM
Like I always say anyone can be beaten on any given day and yes I agree about bjj they definitely think thy are the toughest.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2018, 10:58:17 AM
Rugby players bite you during a fight? That’s what Tyson did when he was LOSING to Holyfield.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Nether Animal on April 25, 2018, 11:01:26 AM
Why does OP only post about fighting? Does he think that makes him tough by proxy?
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Darren Avey on April 25, 2018, 11:05:22 AM
Rugby players bite you during a fight? That’s what Tyson did when he was LOSING to Holyfield.

Tyson was winning and just went nuts. IMO the toughest fighting style is Thai boxing. Id like to see a BJJ guy take one of those knees in the face.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: dan18 on April 25, 2018, 11:07:44 AM
Like I always say anyone can be beaten on any given day and yes I agree about bjj they definitely think thy are the toughest.
bjj or any jj will only work if you have the guy on the ground it doesn't deflect punches
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: dan18 on April 25, 2018, 11:09:38 AM
Rugby players bite you during a fight? That’s what Tyson did when he was LOSING to Holyfield.
their is no such thing as a fair fight outside the ring I will rip off your head and skull fuck you if that's what needs to be done
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: robcguns on April 25, 2018, 11:10:22 AM
Rugby players bite you during a fight? That’s what Tyson did when he was LOSING to Holyfield.

Anyone can bite in a street fight,no rules.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Disgusted on April 25, 2018, 11:12:52 AM
I know  BJJ guy who was getting his ass kicked a guy was on top of him punching him in the face. The guy had a ring on. In the end the BJJ guy had the guy in his guard and arm barred him and broke his arm. He said he heard the guys arm pop and the other guys face was like WTF was that ?  ;D
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: dan18 on April 25, 2018, 11:21:10 AM
I know  BJJ guy who was getting his ass kicked a guy was on top of him punching him in the face. The guy had a ring on. In the end the BJJ guy had the guy in his guard and arm barred him and broke his arm. He said he heard the guys arm pop and the other guys face was like WTF was that ?  ;D
if the guy was on top punching him in the face and he still lost then he hits like a 12 year old girl
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2018, 11:28:23 AM
their is no such thing as a fair fight outside the ring I will rip off your head and skull fuck you if that's what needs to be done

Great, another ESFITNESS. let me guess; you’ve never actually been in a fight before. But you are ready at all times. You are just waiting for your chance to rip somebody’s head off.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: dan18 on April 25, 2018, 11:41:02 AM
Great, another ESFITNESS. let me guess; you’ve never actually been in a fight before. But you are ready at all times. You are just waiting for your chance to rip somebody’s head off.
Ive never started a thread about fighting nor have I ever threatened anyone on this board...never claimed tough guy status but if you are asking im a trained kick boxer was never into karate or any of those other styles kick boxing gives you boxing shills along with good power kicks if needed..ive had 23 in ring fights while in the marines and im 51 years old and ive had my share of regular street fights... wouldn't want to to much to lose house money freedom but I will in defense of myself wife or kids...
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 25, 2018, 11:50:19 AM
I would invite any of you guys to go to your local BJJ dojo and challenge one guys that have been doing it for a year. The rules are you can do anything and so can they. You will be in for a world of hurt. There is a reason why pure Muay Thai guys with no ground game won't step foot in the UFC world. There is a reason Mayweather wouldn't fight Conor in the Octagon. In today's game you need wrestling for take downs, take down defense, and reversals. You need BJJ for submissions and submission defense. You need a striking game. This is where Muay Thai shines.

I come to these opinions from experience. I've had 5 fights in the ring in boxing. 4 and 1 before I realized I really don't like getting punched. I'm also way too pretty to get my face banged up.  I also have been involved in BJJ. Truth be told I was never good at BJJ even though I have submitted more than few guys.  I did learn enough to appreciate what a good practitioner at it can do and it's amazing.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Disgusted on April 25, 2018, 11:52:27 AM
if the guy was on top punching him in the face and he still lost then he hits like a 12 year old girl

In a street fight if a legit BJJ black belt has you in his guard good chance you are not going to come out on top. No pun intended.  :D
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: dan18 on April 25, 2018, 11:55:27 AM
In a street fight if a legit BJJ black belt has you in his guard good chance you are not going to come out on top. No pun intended.  :D
true but the other guy was on top punching the bjj guy hence 12year old girl punching power
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: dan18 on April 25, 2018, 11:58:29 AM
I would invite any of you guys to go to your local BJJ dojo and challenge one guys that have been doing it for a year. The rules are you can do anything and so can they. You will be in for a world of hurt. There is a reason why pure Muay Thai guys with no ground game won't step foot in the UFC world. There is a reason Mayweather wouldn't fight Conor in the Octagon. In today's game you need wrestling for take downs, take down defense, and reversals. You need BJJ for submissions and submission defense. You need a striking game. This is where Muay Thai shines.

I come to these opinions from experience. I've had 5 fights in the ring in boxing. 4 and 1 before I realized I really don't like getting punched. I'm also way too pretty to get my face banged up.  I also have been involved in BJJ. Truth be told I was never good at BJJ even though I have submitted more than few guys.  I did learn enough to appreciate what a good practitioner at it can do and it's amazing.
were not putting down their skill I respect all skills but its like judo if you have skills as well bjj and judo will only help if you can grab or take him to the ground
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Disgusted on April 25, 2018, 12:19:51 PM
true but the other guy was on top punching the bjj guy hence 12year old girl punching power

The BJJ guy was a white belt so he was still able to end it just took him a while
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: robcguns on April 25, 2018, 12:32:30 PM
I would invite any of you guys to go to your local BJJ dojo and challenge one guys that have been doing it for a year. The rules are you can do anything and so can they. You will be in for a world of hurt. There is a reason why pure Muay Thai guys with no ground game won't step foot in the UFC world. There is a reason Mayweather wouldn't fight Conor in the Octagon. In today's game you need wrestling for take downs, take down defense, and reversals. You need BJJ for submissions and submission defense. You need a striking game. This is where Muay Thai shines.

I come to these opinions from experience. I've had 5 fights in the ring in boxing. 4 and 1 before I realized I really don't like getting punched. I'm also way too pretty to get my face banged up.  I also have been involved in BJJ. Truth be told I was never good at BJJ even though I have submitted more than few guys.  I did learn enough to appreciate what a good practitioner at it can do and it's amazing.

You can say as you want but not always true.My buddy fought Kenny florians brother many years ago and he had been doing bjj for 15 years at this point and my buddy was just a brawler and my buddy handed him his fucking ass at a gravel pit one night and my buddy was half cocked as well.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 25, 2018, 02:01:57 PM
You can say as you want but not always true.My buddy fought Kenny florians brother many years ago and he had been doing bjj for 15 years at this point and my buddy was just a brawler and my buddy handed him his fucking ass at a gravel pit one night and my buddy was half cocked as well.

Not saying a good striker can't win. Kenny's brother is not Kenny. 
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Kwon on April 25, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
I find this more and more. ANyone blue belt and above has this arrogance about them. One kid of about 15 thinks he can beat up any boxer in a street fight!!
Yet last year I saw a BJJ black belt get his nose bitten off and nearly die at the hands of a rugby prop who wasn't even a trained fighter!

Some people get a false sense of security after 6 months ~ 2 years of training.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Fortress on April 25, 2018, 03:21:58 PM
In a real fight, the ground is NOT where you want to be.

If you’re large, athletic and very strong, and you have a fundamental understanding of how to remain on your feet, you have the advantage over a majority of street weasels and “ground game” heroes.

Even on the ground, superior strength will allow an individual to torque his way out of all but the most honed submission attempts.

Be big and strong, aggressive, protect your neck and head, stay on your feet, keep an opponent away from your back, and be modestly comfortable delivering considerable blunt force trauma using elbows, knees, and, last, fists, and you’re essentially a wrecking machine in 99.9 percent of altercations.

Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Sokolsky on April 25, 2018, 03:32:04 PM
Sakuraba skullfucking Royler for 90 minutes on end, now imagine your regular run of the mill "fighter", you'll die of old age in a fight.

Jokes aside, I love this fight
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Disgusted on April 25, 2018, 03:56:59 PM
In a real fight, the ground is NOT where you want to be.

If you’re large, athletic and very strong, and you have a fundamental understanding of how to remain on your feet, you have the advantage over a majority of street weasels and “ground game” heroes.

Even on the ground, superior strength will allow an individual to torque his way out of all but the most honed submission attempts.

Be big and strong, aggressive, protect your neck and head, stay on your feet, keep an opponent away from your back, and be modestly comfortable delivering considerable blunt force trauma using elbows, knees, and, last, fists, and you’re essentially a wrecking machine in 99.9 percent of altercations.



Superior conditioning is what wins a fight. Most of the time both guys are gassed in under 2 minutes. Most of the time these BJJ guys who are out sized hold on for dear life till the other guy can't move.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Disgusted on April 25, 2018, 03:57:42 PM
Sakuraba skullfucking Royler for 90 minutes on end, now imagine your regular run of the mill "fighter", you'll die of old age in a fight.

Jokes aside, I love this fight


Kimo destroyed Sakuraba
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2018, 04:22:26 PM
In a real fight, the ground is NOT where you want to be.

If you’re large, athletic and very strong, and you have a fundamental understanding of how to remain on your feet, you have the advantage over a majority of street weasels and “ground game” heroes.

Even on the ground, superior strength will allow an individual to torque his way out of all but the most honed submission attempts.

Be big and strong, aggressive, protect your neck and head, stay on your feet, keep an opponent away from your back, and be modestly comfortable delivering considerable blunt force trauma using elbows, knees, and, last, fists, and you’re essentially a wrecking machine in 99.9 percent of altercations.


Unless you go up a against a former college wrestler. Then, you might be going for a ride... into the air... onto the street... 

Watch your head!!! No padding down there


Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Bevo on April 25, 2018, 05:02:25 PM
Ive never started a thread about fighting nor have I ever threatened anyone on this board...never claimed tough guy status but if you are asking im a trained kick boxer was never into karate or any of those other styles kick boxing gives you boxing shills along with good power kicks if needed..ive had 23 in ring fights while in the marines and im 51 years old and ive had my share of regular street fights... wouldn't want to to much to lose house money freedom but I will in defense of myself wife or kids...


You must be a dick to friends, family included
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: be back on April 26, 2018, 12:43:31 AM
men fighting..ffs..... ::)
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: spiro on April 26, 2018, 06:39:23 AM
Tyson was winning and just went nuts. IMO the toughest fighting style is Thai boxing. Id like to see a BJJ guy take one of those knees in the face.

Tyson took that bite because he was desperate and losing he was a bully. He met his match In those two fights and folded.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: be back on April 26, 2018, 07:24:22 AM
Tyson took that bite because he was desperate and losing he was a bully. He met his match In those two fights and folded.
Holyfield was the first person he fought who wasnt scared of him...
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Darren Avey on April 26, 2018, 07:41:47 AM
Tyson took that bite because he was desperate and losing he was a bully. He met his match In those two fights and folded.
I'm sure youd kick his ass wouldn't you?!? Or if not I'm sure your buddy could!  ::)
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: milone79 on April 26, 2018, 08:43:18 AM
bjj or any jj will only work if you have the guy on the ground it doesn't deflect punches

and if he is wearing a gi to hold on to....let's see BJJ or JJ against a shirtless opponent!!
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: dan18 on April 26, 2018, 08:45:01 AM

You must be a dick to friends, family included
That was a stupid statement im a loyal a good friend what would make you say such a thing.....
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Sokolsky on April 26, 2018, 10:12:06 AM
and if he is wearing a gi to hold on to....let's see BJJ or JJ against a shirtless opponent!!

You do actually know that there are no-gi competitions right?  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: megafitness on April 26, 2018, 10:18:56 AM
You do actually know that there are no-gi competitions right?  ::) ::) ::)
with oil? i believe the Turkish wrestle with oil.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: milone79 on April 26, 2018, 10:19:05 AM
You do actually know that there are no-gi competitions right?  ::) ::) ::)

aware...still wanna see what happens with a BJJ practitioner against a shirtless sweaty boxer....
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on April 26, 2018, 09:42:02 PM
their is no such thing as a fair fight outside the ring I will rip off your head and skull fuck you if that's what needs to be done

agreed

also the minute you stand face to face with another man - watch out for a cheap shot or his 1st punch

there are no rules in street fights - weapons, other people jumping in - etc etc

hence I avoid all that shit- i am too old for it
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Mitch on April 27, 2018, 12:55:16 AM
this thread needs to be merged with the original SMM thread :D
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: megafitness on April 27, 2018, 05:01:38 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Mothballs on April 27, 2018, 05:17:07 AM
A blue belt of moderate size can handle 99% of the population with ease. Beyond blue belt you’re just training to defeat other skilled fighters.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: keanu on May 03, 2018, 10:08:52 PM
A blue belt of moderate size can handle 99% of the population with ease. Beyond blue belt you’re just training to defeat other skilled fighters.

    Some guys can't fight period regardless of how much training they have, but most will get some benefit out of the training. You are definitely right that a decent sized trained fighter can clear out a room.  I was 19 and hanging out with my friend Mike of similar age. He was nothing special physically, about 6 ft 2, 195 lbs, worked out but wasn't strong (max bench was 185 for 7 reps). He did martial arts for 5 years. Decent kickboxer, not especially fast or powerful, but he trained about 8 hours a week and that heavy bag moved. I had some weightlifting under my belt not much martial arts training.

   We were walking past a schoolyard at about 11pm in Toronto around the Lawrence and Yonge area. A group of drunk teens around 17 or 18 called us faggets and such. We were outnumbered 7 to 2. The guy talking the most shit was some fat kid, probably about 6 ft 260, all around the waist. I wanted to keep walking, didn't like the odds. Mike just stopped, turned around and started walking towards them. The big group stood behind the fat kid smirking.  It took us about a minute to walk around the fence and meet them. At this point I am pretty sure we are not doing the smart thing. It was 7 against 2, and I couldn't fight my way out of a lunch bag at the time.

  Mike walks up to the fat kid and asks him why he is calling us faggets. The fat kid gets in Mike's face and tells him off. Mike punches him right in the middle of the face. Right on the nose. He punched the kid behind him and so on. Within a minute 6 kids were holding their faces. The last one was begging not to be hit. I learned a valuable lesson that night. Most people are absolute pussies. These kids could have circled Mike, but they froze like deer in the headlights. They barely fucking moved, except to raise their arms a little a take a step or two back. He did what he had trained to do, performing combinations that he had practiced for many hundreds of hours, over and over again. I can't even imagine what a world class fighter could do. I have no doubt that any national level mma striking guy guy could with just kicks alone, take out an average group of 50 college kids who for the most part would be deer in the headlights. Each kick sending one to the ground for minutes.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 03, 2018, 10:40:38 PM
I will just say, I'm no bad ass. But I have arrested a lot of bad asses. Mixed martial arts is certainly a force to be reckoned with. But I have been in fights due to my job with the whole gamut of fighters from street fighters to MMA type guys. I have training in Shorin Ryu, under the instruction of  Fusei Kise  for 4 years while stationed in Okinawa. I wouldn't even dream  of competing in MMA I'm just giving some background. The Taekawndo  fighters were never a problem. It was always the BJJ or college wrestlers that posed the problem  
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: megafitness on May 04, 2018, 12:42:39 AM
    Some guys can't fight period regardless of how much training they have, but most will get some benefit out of the training. You are definitely right that a decent sized trained fighter can clear out a room.  I was 19 and hanging out with my friend Mike of similar age. He was nothing special physically, about 6 ft 2, 195 lbs, worked out but wasn't strong (max bench was 185 for 7 reps). He did martial arts for 5 years. Decent kickboxer, not especially fast or powerful, but he trained about 8 hours a week and that heavy bag moved. I had some weightlifting under my belt not much martial arts training.

   We were walking past a schoolyard at about 11pm in Toronto around the Lawrence and Yonge area. A group of drunk teens around 17 or 18 called us faggets and such. We were outnumbered 7 to 2. The guy talking the most shit was some fat kid, probably about 6 ft 260, all around the waist. I wanted to keep walking, didn't like the odds. Mike just stopped, turned around and started walking towards them. The big group stood behind the fat kid smirking.  It took us about a minute to walk around the fence and meet them. At this point I am pretty sure we are not doing the smart thing. It was 7 against 2, and I couldn't fight my way out of a lunch bag at the time.

  Mike walks up to the fat kid and asks him why he is calling us faggets. The fat kid gets in Mike's face and tells him off. Mike punches him right in the middle of the face. Right on the nose. He punched the kid behind him and so on. Within a minute 6 kids were holding their faces. The last one was begging not to be hit. I learned a valuable lesson that night. Most people are absolute pussies. These kids could have circled Mike, but they froze like deer in the headlights. They barely fucking moved, except to raise their arms a little a take a step or two back. He did what he had trained to do, performing combinations that he had practiced for many hundreds of hours, over and over again. I can't even imagine what a world class fighter could do. I have no doubt that any national level mma striking guy guy could with just kicks alone, take out an average group of 50 college kids who for the most part would be deer in the headlights. Each kick sending one to the ground for minutes.
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: be back on May 04, 2018, 12:50:40 AM
I will just say, I'm no bad ass. But I have arrested a lot of bad asses. Mixed martial arts is certainly a force to be reckoned with. But I have been in fights due to my job with the whole gamut of fighters from street fighters to MMA type guys. I have training in Shorin Ryu, under the instruction of  Fusei Kise  for 4 years while stationed in Okinawa. I wouldn't even dream  of competing in MMA I'm just giving some background. The Taekawndo  fighters were never a problem. It was always the BJJ or college wrestlers that posed the problem  
use your tazer or gun you moron...
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Bevo on May 04, 2018, 01:05:10 AM
Why are there so many tough guys on this board?
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Bulgarian_enforcer on May 04, 2018, 07:41:15 AM
bjj has few weak spots - it cannot defend you from multiple attackers, also knives are kind of a problem...
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Mothballs on May 04, 2018, 08:01:14 AM
bjj has few weak spots - it cannot defend you from multiple attackers, also knives are kind of a problem...
True. Only Steven Seagal and his Aikido protégés can disarm and disable multiple assailants armed with knives.  ::)
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 04, 2018, 11:00:32 AM
use your tazer or gun you moron...

use my gun? on an unarmed dude? and you call me a moron...  :)
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: be back on May 04, 2018, 12:18:43 PM
use my gun? on an unarmed dude? and you call me a moron...  :)

you are not paid to get into brawls with people.
So if someone has you on the floor ground and pounding you you think its unacceptable to draw a weapon to protect yourself???
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: dj181 on May 04, 2018, 12:47:23 PM
Look out!!!
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: polychronopolous on May 04, 2018, 12:53:03 PM
Look out!!!

yeah i used to see his ads in the backs of the magazines
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: dj181 on May 04, 2018, 01:23:28 PM
yeah i used to see his ads in the backs of the magazines

Looks like a real badass

But he could fuck up Hearns and Mr. Julian Jackson at the same time
Title: Re: Why do BJJ guys think they re invincible?
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 04, 2018, 01:23:48 PM
Look out!!!

A blast from the past. That and the Atlas "kicking sand in face" ads