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At least in the communist block, you knew the rules. Rules said you can't talk about certain things. You are a servant of the Jews. Shut up or we kill you.
In America and the west, they tell you you have freedom of speech, so you think you are free, and you express your opinion, and then they DESTROY you.
In communist block their was no delusion and the rulers were more honest.
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Yeah guess it's because of their great freedom and welfare that we have their daughters selling their pussies by the side of the roads...
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At least in the communist block, you knew the rules. Rules said you can't talk about certain things. You are a servant of the Jews. Shut up or we kill you.
In America and the west, they tell you you have freedom of speech, so you think you are free, and you express your opinion, and then they DESTROY you.
In communist block their was no delusion and the rulers were more honest.
Stalin was really a good guy too.
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Yeah guess it's because of their great freedom and welfare that we have their daughters selling their pussies by the side of the roads...
Do you mean american women?
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Stalin was really a good guy too.
No he was a bad guy. But in eastern bloc, there was no delusion of freedom.
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Communism was an economic failure.
One reason is that it failed to account for human greed, self-interest, and corruption.
Karl Marx was a brilliant fool.
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Communism was an economic failure.
One reason is that it failed to account for human greed, self-interest, and corruption.
Karl Marx was a brilliant fool.
Karl Marx was no fool. He hated the goyim and he wanted to destroy us. And he did a brilliant job.
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Karl Marx was no fool. He hated the goyim and he wanted to destroy us. And he did a brilliant job.
Oddly enough, in South Africa the Communist Party intellectuals of the ANC were mostly white and Jewish. Most of the 'Freedom Charter' manifesto of the ANC was written by them, by white people.
The current minister of trade and industry is currently a Jew and also a Communist Party member. One of the previous ministers of state security, Ronnie Kasrils was also Jewish and a Communist Party member. Joe Slovo, another top party member was Jewish and was also leader of the Communist Party.
Five of the six whites arrested with Mandela were also Jewish. Mandela was also a Communist Party member till the day he died.
Needless to say, their party is one which aims to eradicate whites and have all land owned by the state as in communist countries.
Today, the ruling party members still call each other Comrade and 'deploys' their 'deployees' and 'cadres' to various state institutions, including sport, in an attempt to 'hegemonise' society and for the 'working-classization' of society and to have full control of all aspects of life.
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South Africa is well on its way to being a complete sh*thole.
White people should leave as soon as possible before they are all killed.
Leave everything and get out while you can.
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At least in the communist block, you knew the rules. Rules said you can't talk about certain things. You are a servant of the Jews. Shut up or we kill you.
In America and the west, they tell you you have freedom of speech, so you think you are free, and you express your opinion, and then they DESTROY you.
In communist block their was no delusion and the rulers were more honest.
??? ??? ???
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There's no real free speech left in the U.S....the moment you say anything that isn't PC, you lose your job, get smeared online, can't find another job, get blacklisted from TV or Film (see Roseanne). It's an illusion.
Not really. You're free to say anything but you may hurt your moneymaking opportunities.
People who don't like you don't have to buy from you or employ you. It's a free country.
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Then explain why that's only been the case for the last 10 years? You used to be able to say anything and it didn't affect your business or public image. Just look at the Archie Bunker character in All in the Family or early episodes of Fresh Prince where the jokes were 90% at the expense of Whites. That would never fly now.
You can get fired just for hugging someone for too long. Or for a tweet questioning how many died in the Holocaust. Or asking people to keep an open mind in a harassment or rape case that's trending in the headlines. That's not a free country. It's feminism turned into terrorism. In the UK you can get arrested and jailed for up to a year just for making a racially insensitive tweet or post on Facebook. It's insane.
Social media I suppose.
You are right about political correctness being nutty.
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At least in the communist block, you knew the rules. Rules said you can't talk about certain things. You are a servant of the Jews. Shut up or we kill you.
In America and the west, they tell you you have freedom of speech, so you think you are free, and you express your opinion, and then they DESTROY you.
In communist block their was no delusion and the rulers were more honest.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
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Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
so same thing?
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so same thing?
No. Only a child thinks that there are no consequences for their actions, good or bad. And a child soon learns what those consequences are.
People want to say what they want, yet only positive consequences arise from that. And that is not always the case, nor is it reality.
Look to the NFL "kneeling" fiasco as an example.
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No. Only a child thinks that there are no consequences for their actions, good or bad. And a child soon learns what those consequences are.
People want to say what they want, yet only positive consequences arise from that. And that is not always the case, nor is it reality.
Look to the NFL "kneeling" fiasco as an example.
Yes but you know, same thing, NKVD come for you in America too....
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Yes but you know, same thing, NKVD come for you in America too....
No, you have a lot more leeway here. Otherwise, what has been said about Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton (and other presidents) or all the political cartoons, political satire, would not have been allowed.
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I say what I want, when I want and how I want and aint no fucking lefty gonna tell me otherwise.
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Yes but you know, same thing, NKVD come for you in America too....
No, Robert DeNiro is still a free man.
In the old USSR he'd be in a gulag.
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Absolutely. Western "democracy" is a lie.
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how come theres no free speech on getbig?
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You idiot, OP.
In the Eastern Bloc my parents had to hide what they said in front of me in case I inadvertently gave anything away to my teachers.
Unlike some Communist countries, we even hid from the Church as they were in the pay of the StB.
Moving to the west was the greatest thing that ever happened to us.
Having said that, now I live in Cali and we now have to be careful what we say in front of our kids so I guess I'm the idiot now...
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If you go out in the street with a megaphone in Cali and say you want illegals out, you'll be mobbed by a crowd of self-hating whites and racist Mexicans.
??? So, "freedom of speech" now means everyone must love everything you say and no one can disagree?
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You guys don't simply disagree. You mob people and shut them down from talking. That's the intolerant left - they stamp out dissent wherever they find it. On the steps of the Supreme Court couple days ago you had pro-Kavanaugh people in a huge libtard crowd and the lefties were getting in their face and shoving them. Same thing we saw in Virginia last summer and at countless anti-gun, anti-male rallies.
Even taking this at face value, none of this proves that free speech is in danger in america. It just proves that a lot of people in this thread don't know what free speech means. There is a ton of dissent and a variety of opinions in the political sphere. Are you saying that a protest is less valid if people aren't nice? Or that dissent and organized censorship only count at public rallies? Just the other day , the op started a thread about a drag queen show that was being targeted by one of those focus on the family type groups. Then posters in the thread claimed the show was about grooming children to follow the gay agenda, then when that fell apart they settled on the show was just meant to appeal to pedophiles, something that made even less sense. If you google that show, pretty much every hit is from the conservative outrage machine amplifying the calls for boycott. So, here you have organized protests calling for baseless censorsship built around unsubstantiated lies. But somehow the right is more noble when it comes to free speech?
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Even taking this at face value, none of this proves that free speech is in danger in america. It just proves that a lot of people in this thread don't know what free speech means. There is a ton of dissent and a variety of opinions in the political sphere. Are you saying that a protest is less valid if people aren't nice? Or that dissent and organized censorship only count at public rallies? Just the other day , the op started a thread about a drag queen show that was being targeted by one of those focus on the family type groups. Then posters in the thread claimed the show was about grooming children to follow the gay agenda, then when that fell apart they settled on the show was just meant to appeal to pedophiles, something that made even less sense. If you google that show, pretty much every hit is from the conservative outrage machine amplifying the calls for boycott. So, here you have organized protests calling for baseless censorsship built around unsubstantiated lies. But somehow the right is more noble when it comes to free speech?
Dude, you're living in a bubble if you think the left aren't opposed to free speech and do everything they can to no-platform anyone they disagree with. When thinkers on the left and right meet to debate I've never seen a single occasion when the left don't resort to insults and fail miserably. I'm generally referring to true leftists here, not liberals. The left is a cancer, they're making people frightened to discuss ideas openly, they police our language to the nth degree and they want to create socialist automaton children with no sense of personal responsibility.
Trump, the most embarrassing leader the US has ever had, is what we've got partly because of this (and Obama's horrific identity politics) and I am concerned where it's all going to end. For many on the left being a racist is seen as being worse than a paedophile, it's horrendous and huge problems are coming.
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I say what I want, when I want and how I want and aint no fucking lefty gonna tell me otherwise.
For you, everything,, EXCEPT about the Jews?
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I hope you're just using hyperbole for the sake of it.
Seriously, comparing the Soviet Union to the US when it comes to freedom of speech is just so, so uninformed.
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Exactly. People have the right to protest, but they're protesting against the country itself.
This is actually the very reason for protected speech. You are halfway to clarifying that what bothers you isn't an erosion of freedom of speech, but the fact that views you don't agree with aren't marginalized enough. I usually try to avoid bringing up shit from casual threads in political/serious discussions, but I think here it's relevant. We were going back and forth in that other thread and in defending a conservative elderly poster, you said making fun of senior citizens just isn't something you do. But literally one post before that, you made fun of a different elderly poster because he was liberal. In that same thread, you said that the older poster sounded like a decent, older conservative. You were defending him because he called another user's parents to tattle because he didn't like the other user's posts. Surely, you have to look at the topic here and see the irony. I get that you were probably going for a certain level of humor with those posts, so I'm not referencing that as some amazing gotcha moment. My point here is that it's the way of the right- create as many glaring blindspots as possible and do everything possible not to question them. The user in question paints himself as a staunch, stoic conservative in opposition to mentally ill liberal babies, but he literally tattle tales on other members who post things he doesn't like. Your posts defending him in that thread were just minutes apart from your post criticizing imaginary censorship. It's just like bob's response. Once you're determined to see something one way, everything is going to support it and nothing can dispute. Anything thing that contradicts is unimportant or not part of the bigger picture or just a joke or not even what we're talking about.
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I hope you're just using hyperbole for the sake of it.
Seriously, comparing the Soviet Union to the US when it comes to freedom of speech is just so, so uninformed.
Hmm really? But meanwhile you should be preparing for the day when your leaders DESTROY your grandchildren like cattle to slaughter. Oh yes you have so much "freedom" haha freedom to line up in the slaughter house like sheep. In soviet world the future generations are being protected.
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If I visit Deutschland or Londonistan I would get busted .................. :P
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If I visit Deutschland or Londonistan I would get busted .................. :P
why? questioning the "official" wwII narrative?
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You idiot, OP.
In the Eastern Bloc my parents had to hide what they said in front of me in case I inadvertently gave anything away to my teachers.
Unlike some Communist countries, we even hid from the Church as they were in the pay of the StB.
Moving to the west was the greatest thing that ever happened to us.
Having said that, now I live in Cali and we now have to be careful what we say in front of our kids so I guess I'm the idiot now...
Fuck off POS
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People are usually against what they don't agree with.
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Correct. And the sane ones among us talk about it, maybe even argue, then put the conversation behind them and move on.
The ones who are mentally deranged, have no jobs, or just want to start trouble will go out in the streets, block off key boulevards and intersections, lie flat on pavement for hours in pathetic "die-ins", smash windows, pick pockets, and generally act like complete fuckstains on camera while the cum-drinker progressive reporters from CNN and MSNBC giggle with delight with their cameras and brainwash America into thinking THIS is what the people want.
In reality, it's what a small group of misfits with no real occupation or purpose want, after which they all go home and go back to collecting welfare like the losers they are.
Very true.
Whackjobs.
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Hmm really? But meanwhile you should be preparing for the day when your leaders DESTROY your grandchildren like cattle to slaughter. Oh yes you have so much "freedom" haha freedom to line up in the slaughter house like sheep. In soviet world the future generations are being protected.
Being? The Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore, and Russia is not even close to the USSR in terms of censorship and harassment.
No less than 20 million people died because of the purges, starvations, wars and the gulag system.
Seriously, claiming freedom of speech was better in the USSR is nuts.
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No less than 20 million people died because of the purges, starvations, wars and the gulag system.
Yes, but we knew the danger. No delusions. Unlike America which is one big collective delusion.