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:o Fun starts at 3:15
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Never gonna get all that glass out of the ac vents!
Seriously though, close the borders and these two thugs wouldn’t have done this..
And the officer needs more training(as do most LEO’s worldwide)...what’s the deal with that garbage reload he did??!?
Bench
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Cool like GTA irl ;D
Any mugshots of the geniuses?
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Cool like GTA irl ;D
Any mugshots of the geniuses?
Only of one...one of the criminals died
Bench
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Only of one...one of the criminals died
Bench
Good. Should have been stopped before they crossed that border though.
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great channel btw.
just went through a bunch of vids of cops shooting a bunch of dindunuffins, rightfully so.
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Never gonna get all that glass out of the ac vents!
Seriously though, close the borders and these two thugs wouldn’t have done this..
And the officer needs more training(as do most LEO’s worldwide)...what’s the deal with that garbage reload he did??!?
Bench
Amateurish reload. ::)
I was just there attending a wedding when that shooting occurred. My buddy is a 27-year veteran with LVMPD with lots of stories - including a domestic disturbance call involving a then-unknown athlete who retired with a 50-0 record. In the ring, not felony convictions.
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Amateurish reload. ::)
I was just there attending a wedding when that shooting occurred. My buddy is a 27-year veteran with LVMPD with lots of stories - including a domestic disturbance call involving a then-unknown athlete who retired with a 50-0 record. In the ring, not felony convictions.
Not surprising.
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shooting through the windshield is extremely reckless. Bullets take odd trajectories going through glass and those shots would have lost too much velocity to do much damage even if they hit the target.
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Summary
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shooting through the windshield is extremely reckless. Bullets take odd trajectories going through glass and those shots would have lost too much velocity to do much damage even if they hit the target.
It's my understanding that bullets take fairly predictable trajectories when you shoot through windows.
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It's my understanding that bullets take fairly predictable trajectories when you shoot through windows.
They typically are pretty predictable depending on the range..the only time you really have to worry is when you bullet is already on its downslope..for a handgun at that range it isn’t really an issue
Bench
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Good! I love happy endings. :)
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he should learn to shoot left handed...problem solved.
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he should learn to shoot left handed...problem solved.
It looked like her wanted to there for a second but he changed his mind. lol.
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it all happens in Vegas!
cheap booze, cheap women, cheap drugs
:o Fun starts at 3:15
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would of been cooler to see the cop shot by the chicano
Good! I love happy endings. :)
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I want to see the report that shows how many times the douchebag got hit.
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Was the dude already dead after he stopped? I saw the wheels spinning but thought maybe it was just him lashing on the pedal as he died or something. I always wonder what goes through these types of people’s minds when they do shit like this. Just pull over and take your licks.
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Stressed and amped beyond what most can even understand.
This officer did his duty with honour and he performed well.
Anyone who’d criticize hasn’t the foggiest notion of how the human body responds in such extreme situations.
Job well done, officer.
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Got the usual getbig experts in here. Ballistics and forensic experts, tactical situation experts....good thing you guys are all here to break this down for us!!
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would of been cooler to see the cop shot by the chicano
The mexican ran like a little bitch at the end leaving his homeboy to die, so much for the toughness of street gang members....lol
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Got the usual getbig experts in here. Ballistics and forensic experts, tactical situation experts....good thing you guys are all here to break this down for us!!
Lol
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Got the usual getbig experts in here. Ballistics and forensic experts, tactical situation experts....good thing you guys are all here to break this down for us!!
Wouldn't expect any less. This is Getbig after all.
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That was pretty wild, he ( the cop) is going to have hearing damage after that, an enclosed space of a car magnifys the sound, people that want to second guess what the cop did have no idea how fast this shit goes down. Chasing a car, dodging other motorists, keeping radio informed on where you are, ducking incoming bullets, checking background before you get a shot off( don't wanna accidently shoot the kid in the baby carriage), knowing your going to be sued no matter what the outcome, and having split seconds to make the (perceived) right decision.
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Got the usual getbig experts in here. Ballistics and forensic experts, tactical situation experts....good thing you guys are all here to break this down for us!!
At least benchmstr is a veteran who fought in the front line in Afghanistan and Iraq, if I remember correctly. He also mysteriously disappeared from Getbig for a while around the time Bin Laden was killed.
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That was pretty wild, he ( the cop) is going to have hearing damage after that, an enclosed space of a car magnifys the sound, people that want to second guess what the cop did have no idea how fast this shit goes down. Chasing a car, dodging other motorists, keeping radio informed on where you are, ducking incoming bullets, checking background before you get a shot off( don't wanna accidently shoot the kid in the baby carriage), knowing your going to be sued no matter what the outcome, and having split seconds to make the (perceived) right decision.
Exactly.
The overload of all that’s required in the line of duty and the stress and fear is overwhelming.
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Were Groink or ES Fitness involved?
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At least benchmstr is a veteran who fought in the front line in Afghanistan and Iraq, if I remember correctly. He also mysteriously disappeared from Getbig for a while around the time Bin Laden was killed.
holy shit I didn't know that, so your saying that bench master is like the Rambo of this forum?
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holy shit I didn't know that, so your saying that bench master is like the Rambo of this forum?
Benchmstr = Rambo
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shooting through the windshield is extremely reckless. Bullets take odd trajectories going through glass and those shots would have lost too much velocity to do much damage even if they hit the target.
No they don't. windshields are designed to deflect objects entering the vehicle while break away easily for projectiles exiting the vehicle. this is to avoid secondary injury in accidents. But you're another dumbass who knows everything and always wiegh in on the negative side of police matters. This was quite incredible response by the officer. I'd assume he must be a combat veteran. In any case he knows more about what actions to take than you ever will.
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Stressed and amped beyond what most can even understand.
This officer did his duty with honour and he performed well.
Anyone who’d criticize hasn’t the foggiest notion of how the human body responds in such extreme situations.
Job well done, officer.
I mostly agree, but the mag change betrayed a lack of firearms training. For LEOs, the mag change should be second nature. The Fort Hood shooter used to sit in his barcalounger watching TV while practicing tactical/speed reloads. No one could stop him while he was shooting indoor because he reloaded too quickly.
Still, high praise to the officer. 8)
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He should be fired. Departments in general have abandoned shooting at suspects from their vehicle, or attempting to disable their vehicle by blowing out tires with firearms (there's speed sticks for that now), since the late 1980s at the latest. If he felt in danger he should've done what most cops do when they're chasing a dangerous suspect, and allow air support to trail them while closing off streets ahead of the perpetrator rather than trying to play Rambo and do it themselves. Then again you only need a high school diploma, a vagina or dark skin to be a pig, and it shows.
That's why I posted the summary video. He followed all departmental procedures.
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Awesome. He did good. Damn that must have been intense.
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No they don't. windshields are designed to deflect objects entering the vehicle while break away easily for projectiles exiting the vehicle. this is to avoid secondary injury in accidents. But you're another dumbass who knows everything and always wiegh in on the negative side of police matters. This was quite incredible response by the officer. I'd assume he must be a combat veteran. In any case he knows more about what actions to take than you ever will.
HaHa...ok tough guy. So the cop's plan was to shoot through the strongest glass in an automobile hoping the bullet would exit cleanly and maintain the exact trajectory he meant while firing rapidly and off center of his sights. He expected those rounds to enter the assailants vehicle somewhere (glass? door? trunk?) continue through all the internal debris, metal, seats as both cars are moving and swerving at high speed and hit the bad guy in a "critical" area to stop him. HaHa...sure. Maybe the bullets also turned 180 degrees at some point and entered Kennedy's head from behind.... ::) He also failed to control how much ammo he used and got lucky jumping out of the car to engage with an empty magazine.
I appreciate the cops enthusiasm and he did stop the threat but he was also reckless and careless and that needs to be called out.
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HaHa...ok tough guy. So the cop's plan was to shoot through the strongest glass in an automobile hoping the bullet would exit cleanly and maintain the exact trajectory he meant while firing rapidly and off center of his sights. He expected those rounds to enter the assailants vehicle somewhere (glass? door? trunk?) continue through all the internal debris, metal, seats as both cars are moving and swerving at high speed and hit the bad guy in a "critical" area to stop him. HaHa...sure. Maybe the bullets also turned 180 degrees at some point and entered Kennedy's head from behind.... ::) He also failed to control how much ammo he used and got lucky jumping out of the car to engage with an empty magazine.
I appreciate the cops enthusiasm and he did stop the threat but he was also reckless and careless and that needs to be called out.
Actually the other cop who pulled up killed one of them with his shotgun. He was definitely pissed at being shot at (hence the enthusiasm).
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shooting through the windshield is extremely reckless. Bullets take odd trajectories going through glass and those shots would have lost too much velocity to do much damage even if they hit the target.
Studies and testing show shooting through a windshield will affect the trajectory but not as much as one might think. Here is a decent article with examples. I would say that shooting from a moving vehicle at a moving vehicle is more reckless than shooting through a windshield. He was even thinking of firing with his off hand.. those rounds have to go somewhere and I would hate for it to be someone walking down the sidewalk.
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Never gonna get all that glass out of the ac vents!
Seriously though, close the borders and these two thugs wouldn’t have done this..
And the officer needs more training(as do most LEO’s worldwide)...what’s the deal with that garbage reload he did??!?
Bench
It is true that most agencies require qualifications once a year and sadly many officers only do that. Others will fire at least once a month and still others are range hounds and will shoot as long as they supply the ammo. The old adage, you will do under pressure what you train to do is accurate for the most part, but as you know, unless there is some stress added to the training and some realism, just standing at a range shooting targets might help, but when the shit hits the fan, you are going to look stupid reloading during a firefight.
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It's my understanding that bullets take fairly predictable trajectories when you shoot through windows.
They do for the most part. I've participated in training where we shot through doors, side windows and windshields and I was surprised at how little it affects the shots. But add driving 30 or 40 mph shooting at a moving vehicle.. it's hard to hit the right person.
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He should be fired. Departments in general have abandoned shooting at suspects from their vehicle, or attempting to disable their vehicle by blowing out tires with firearms (there's speed sticks for that now), since the late 1980s at the latest. If he felt in danger he should've done what most cops do when they're chasing a dangerous suspect, and allow air support to trail them while closing off streets ahead of the perpetrator rather than trying to play Rambo and do it themselves. Then again you only need a high school diploma, a vagina or dark skin to be a pig, and it shows.
Okay.. lets discuss that. In policing there are what we call General Orders and then there is state law. General Orders are always more stringent than state law for a few reasons. There is nothing in state law that prohibits a cop from shooting from a vehicle. The reason there isn't is because there are a gazillion possible scenarios an officer may have to deal with on any given day. So laws are vague or lenient because that's understood. For almost every "A cop should never" statement you give, I can probably with few exceptions give you a "but what about if" that would make the action seem reasonable.
In general orders or department policy there are prohibitions typically that will state something like "Police officers will not discharge their weapons at a moving vehicle" but will add "Unless.".. and set out some criteria. Because as soon as a department forbids a cop from using deadly force in a given situation, that situation will occur and someone will get hurt or die because the cop was unable to respond with deadly force. So they leave the door open. Ultimately the cop is responsible for each round fired and what happens with it
You bring up some good thoughts though.. In a typical pursuit, it is best not to chase and many departments have rules saying for misdemeanors only you can't even pursue and will get in trouble if you do. But for active shooters, or suspects of violent crimes, you usually get to pursue. I personally don't like chasing someone who is shooting at me, I would much rather back off. In fact, I really don't want to deal with anyone shooting at me and would much rather go the other way. Most times that's not an option and in this case, does the department have an air unit? Were they on duty? What was their ETA?Where they enroute and the officers just keeping up until they arrived? Do you know any of those answers?
So a helicopter may or may not have been available but it seems like they weren't there at that time so backing off doesn't appear to be an option.
Stop sticks. Great for drunk drivers, not so great for active shooters. Someone has to thrown them and then pull them back in before the cops drive over them.. which means the bad guys with the guns drive right by the officer. Plus, it sounds easy but getting a unit that has stop sticks, {not all cops are trained with them nor outfitted with them) to the right position in a city is almost impossible. The number of units you talk about for funneling would be ridiculous in such an environment and units are limited to the officers on duty in that part of the city not on calls at any given time. Its very difficult I can tell you from experience to get a unit in place during daytime traffic in a urban environment.
This isn't a TV show or movie where resources or unlimited and cops are abundant. It's about a high speed vehicle shooting at people and cops trying their best to stop them before someone dies. All of your suggestions are potentially great for DWI, or Highway pursuits or if a helicopter is even available but in reality, it's not the cops that seem uneducated at this point about it.
In almost every use of force situation from taser discharge to strike to the head it is reviewed by a chain of command and when deadly force is involved you add in Internal Affairs, Shooting Team comprised of department personnel from the range, the Academy where use of force is taught, Commanders over Training and SWAT personnel. Often times when requested either by the department or citizens, the FBI will avail itself. All info from videos, to radio transmissions, reports, photos and interviews are reviewed to determine if force was reasonable or excessive. The outcome of the use of force is part of the items weighed. I can tell you from experience, if no one but the bad guy suffers from the deadly force, it is looked at differently than if an innocent person is also harmed. In this case, assuming the officers rounds didn't strike anyone outside of the vehicle, it would probably be viewed as reasonable. There may be some tactical training issues that are brought up and addressed but firing him? unlikely
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They do for the most part. I've participated in training where we shot through doors, side windows and windshields and I was surprised at how little it affects the shots. But add driving 30 or 40 mph shooting at a moving vehicle.. it's hard to hit the right person.
Informative video.
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At least benchmstr is a veteran who fought in the front line in Afghanistan and Iraq, if I remember correctly. He also mysteriously disappeared from Getbig for a while around the time Bin Laden was killed.
That was forever ago! I have a desk job now and just teach others how to shoot and better understand the tactical environments that they may find themselves in...my greatest enemy now are cardboard targets and occasionally steel..
Me and my wife agreed that my days of doing stuff like that are over...USPSA carry optics division is the closest thing to action I’m ever going to see again unless something totally wild happens
Bench
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That was forever ago! I have a desk job now and just teach others how to shoot and better understand the tactical environments that they may find themselves in...my greatest enemy now are cardboard targets and occasionally steel..
Me and my wife agreed that my days of doing stuff like that are over...USPSA carry optics division is the closest thing to action I’m ever going to see again unless something totally wild happens
Bench
That's actually a good thing. They tell me it's a young mans game ... I am starting to believe it.
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I can't address all those points because non-law enforcement people don't have access to all the scenario-based information available to current or former police.
That said, in a city like Vegas they can surely mobilize a relatively large number of units on short notice. Just watch any episode of COPS or Live PD and they have like 6 cars the moment some black kid gets marked by a sniffer dog for having a brick of coke in his car. With today's technology the police can converge on one location pretty quickly, and when you factor in the nature of a chase...usually there's an entire motorcade following the suspect unless they're told to abandon it due to risk to the population (narrow streets, suburban areas, parks, schools, etc.).
I haven't read or heard of any police firing out of their cars for a very long time. Using cars as cover when being shot at and shooting back? Yeah, regularly that happens. But not what this video showed. I think body cams are the best thing to happen to cops in decades - that way you know what happened and they're tamper-proof (I have a Patrol Eyes which an admin-only control functionality) to the people wearing them. Remember, cops have had their hand tightened behind their backs more since the wild days of the 1970s. It was the shooting of a young black kid in Tennessee in 1974 as he fled from the scene of a burglary that led to the supreme court ruling that you can't shoot a suspect just because they're running away; your life needs to be in danger, or someone else's life, to discharge your firearm. Then we all saw the crooked cops like that one guy in South Carolina who shot that guy then planted a gun underneath him. It's rare but it's still out there. The moment you fire that bullet, you don't control it anymore.
Anyway, the idea of law enforcement is always prevention, then containment, not confrontation. If there's a way to get someone a day or two later, or even an hour later, than on the spot, then as hard as that is to do on a personal level, you sometimes have to do it.
The cop doesn't always get the luxury of laying back. If they had dropped back.. and lost them and someone had died from their shooting then I'd probably be reading about pussy cops on this thread instead. I don't know what to tell you other than sometimes they have to act. When they don't sometimes it costs lives like that nice officer who stayed outside the school during the shooting.
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That's actually a good thing. They tell me it's a young mans game ... I am starting to believe it.
It’s for the best..I have a super easy job that requires me to workoutout and shoot guns all day...should have done it years ago!
Bench
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I mostly agree, but the mag change betrayed a lack of firearms training. For LEOs, the mag change should be second nature. The Fort Hood shooter used to sit in his barcalounger watching TV while practicing tactical/speed reloads. No one could stop him while he was shooting indoor because he reloaded too quickly.
Still, high praise to the officer. 8)
Dear child, it would be fun to see your mag change while somebody is shooting at you. I bet that among the mag you should change also your underwear because they are filled with shit ;D
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There are some really rough and tumble tactical operators with over 100 words per minute typing speed on this here forum.
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I can't address all those points because non-law enforcement people don't have access to all the scenario-based information available to current or former police.
That said, in a city like Vegas they can surely mobilize a relatively large number of units on short notice. Just watch any episode of COPS or Live PD and they have like 6 cars the moment some black kid gets marked by a sniffer dog for having a brick of coke in his car. With today's technology the police can converge on one location pretty quickly, and when you factor in the nature of a chase...usually there's an entire motorcade following the suspect unless they're told to abandon it due to risk to the population (narrow streets, suburban areas, parks, schools, etc.).
I haven't read or heard of any police firing out of their cars for a very long time. Using cars as cover when being shot at and shooting back? Yeah, regularly that happens. But not what this video showed. I think body cams are the best thing to happen to cops in decades - that way you know what happened and they're tamper-proof (I have a Patrol Eyes which an admin-only control functionality) to the people wearing them. Remember, cops have had their hand tightened behind their backs more since the wild days of the 1970s. It was the shooting of a young black kid in Tennessee in 1974 as he fled from the scene of a burglary that led to the supreme court ruling that you can't shoot a suspect just because they're running away; your life needs to be in danger, or someone else's life, to discharge your firearm. Then we all saw the crooked cops like that one guy in South Carolina who shot that guy then planted a gun underneath him. It's rare but it's still out there. The moment you fire that bullet, you don't control it anymore.
Anyway, the idea of law enforcement is always prevention, then containment, not confrontation. If there's a way to get someone a day or two later, or even an hour later, than on the spot, then as hard as that is to do on a personal level, you sometimes have to do it.
Bro did you watch the video? How long was the cop following the tahoe before any help arrived, and when it did it was quickly locked out of the chase due to traffic. How long did it take police to organize during the mass concert shooting, police cant just materialize on the scene because there is a call.
He called for air support, do you think helicopters can just appear in seconds, and that's assuming they're in the air.
I don't think the technology they're using is that advanced, the dispatcher didn't even have the right car number she was repeating C1 when he said he was C4, plus he was continually stating the street names he was on. I'm sure they have GPS tracking but let's not assume the local police have the same access to tech that the military does.
On camera it's easy to judge his actions, dude was obviously nervous and shook, but he was being fired upon by a moving vehicle on a busy city street. He eliminated the threat, if the gunman was willing to shoot at a cop there's no telling what they would have done to anyone else. Letting the guy drive off ahead wasn't an option once shots were fired.
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Dear child, it would be fun to see your mag change while somebody is shooting at you. I bet that among the mag you should change also your underwear because they are filled with shit ;D
My mag change under fire is irrelevant, and I don't wear underwear. :D I'd probably end up throwing my unloaded gun at the shooter and running for my life.
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The officer was not receiving fire at the time of the mag change; if he had been, he wouldn't have attempted to reload but instead sought cover. All LEOs should be able to execute a speed reload flawlessly. It's a function of training. I take a hard line on LEO firearms training because they carry the power of life and death (ours and theirs) on their hip.
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But add driving 30 or 40 mph shooting at a moving vehicle.. it's hard to hit the right person.
No question.
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All LEOs should be able to execute a speed reload flawlessly. It's a function of training.
They probably can execute it flawlessly....on the range. The problem is that LEOs training can't reproduce the stress of a situation where you are in fear of getting shot and killed.
Under that kind of stress the first thing that goes is your gross motor skills. I think he did great.
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Studies and testing show shooting through a windshield will affect the trajectory but not as much as one might think. Here is a decent article with examples. I would say that shooting from a moving vehicle at a moving vehicle is more reckless than shooting through a windshield. He was even thinking of firing with his off hand.. those rounds have to go somewhere and I would hate for it to be someone walking down the sidewalk.
I agree with you. I think shooting through glass in a close defensive engagement is fine...like you're being carjacked. Wildly shooting at high speed and then rolling out of your car and emptying your magazine is reckless. There's no way to know if there's an innocent party in the vehicle (kids have been caught up in carjackings) or for the cop to identify his backstop. That truck was peppered with wholes.
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Dear child, it would be fun to see your mag change while somebody is shooting at you. I bet that among the mag you should change also your underwear because they are filled with shit ;D
great post i get a kick how some of these get big experts explain how to properly reload i would love to see how these turds react to changing a magazine while under fire, none of these clowns on here have even been in combat or shot at.
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Lol, anyone who questions the mag change has never done one in a shots fired stressful situation. Also regarding resuming the pursuit and letting the helicopter take over monitering the fleeing vehicle..well this isn't a scripted TV show, helicopters are rarely in place when shit goes down. A supervisor has to call over the air for one, and even if one is already in the air and available, it will take a minute or two before the ghetto bird is on the scene. Meanwhile a fleeing felon who has ALREADY SHOT people is driving into residential nieghbohoods. Most have big city departments do in fact have a policy regarding firing into moving vehicles...baring exigent circumstances. The cop is well aware of that, but he also has seconds to stop the threat
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KWON, It's evident that you have never had a lethal weapon fired in your direction.
I've carried a lethal weapon on my hip for a major part of my lifetime, but thankfully I only had to use it three times.
But I have been a 'target of destruction' along with a few others more times than that and gotta admit that the first and foremost thought that comes before anything else is to annihilate the 'bad guy' before he annhilates you.
I think that you would feel the same regardless of your background and professional training.
The will to survive overcomes everything.
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If only they had one of these:
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great post i get a kick how some of these get big experts explain how to properly reload i would love to see how these turds react to changing a magazine while under fire, none of these clowns on here have even been in combat or shot at.
Beat that strawman, pound that strawman!
Now try to respond to what I wrote.
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That's why communication is key. Air support is available in all major cities, man. It's a daily shift run 3x and their response time is excellent, given the speed of the hardware they're operating. Again, it's not the chopper that's going to stop a car, but they provide key information for police down ahead to stop the vehicle. As for Agnostic's comment about stop sticks, they usually don't touch the cop's tires since the guy is already expecting it and drives around them, not to mention they fly in the air and rarely fall back in the same spot. If departments didn't train everyone on them or furnish them, that's a failure of policy, not equipment.
Not true. Not true at all. Helicopters are expensive to run, expensive to maintain, and have limited fuel. I came from Austin, the 13th largest in the nation, and we had 2 copters, one was usually down for maintenance. Other than peak times, the crew were on standby in the hanger area. When a call for assistance came out, it would take probably 10 minutes to leave the ground and in a large city could be 15 minutes to get there. In a pursuit, things are measured in seconds. Next, backing off of a vehicle shooting and driving recklessly is a gamble. You are gambling they stop shooting, which would probably happen, and you are gambling that they would stop driving in a manner that put lives at risk, which in this case probably wouldn't happen. It's a gamble. Stopping the threat as soon as possible would be the logical way to go here.
I've worked with air units for at least 18 years.. its not a daily shift run 24 hours in most locations, and your comment on stop sticks isn't accurate either. There are occasions there are subjects that come up here that I am not knowledgeable about. This happens to be one I do have extensive experience with. But I would like to hear your background in it.
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I don't need to be a cop to know that cop was an idiot who should be fired. Just like I don't need to be Ronnie to know Ronnie's a mouthbreather who retired 5 years too late and ruined his lines with GH abuse. Some things are obvious man, and a former cop is the last reference anyone should listen to given how biased you're likely to be based on your prior claimed profession (if you want to call it that). stop sticks work, so does air support, so does letting the bad guy get ahead 5 streets while he's boxed in. sorry you don't understand common sense, but neither do most of the shitbags who wear the uniform
Hold on to your ignorance, you wear it well.
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I don't need to be a cop to know that cop was an idiot who should be fired. Just like I don't need to be Ronnie to know Ronnie's a mouthbreather who retired 5 years too late and ruined his lines with GH abuse. Some things are obvious man, and a former cop is the last reference anyone should listen to given how biased you're likely to be based on your prior claimed profession (if you want to call it that). stop sticks work, so does air support, so does letting the bad guy get ahead 5 streets while he's boxed in. sorry you don't understand common sense, but neither do most of the shitbags who wear the uniform
Dude come on. You're too smart to believe this.
It wasn't a tv show/movie or an episode of COPS, it was real life.
It was jarring to see the guy shoot through a windshield and then clumsily shoot outside of his window and reload but thats because 99% of people who have witnessed such actions take place have their perspective skewed because it was done by Hollywood.
He stopped the threat, he is a hero.
Stop sticks would have involved a lot of planning and shutting down streets to direct where you want the car to go, would it have been likely the police could have cleared the roads of traffic to do that safely?
I'm sure you've been to Vegas enough to know Vegas, North Vegas and Henderson isn't that big of an area. If a helicopter was in the air it should have arrived with in seconds. If the cop would have backed off the criminals would have had a better chance to escape or do something more drastic like take hostages, kill pedestrians, etc.
The cop may be a low intelligence dirtbag with a history of poor behavior and entitlement , but he made the right decision in this case.
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Hold on to your ignorance, you wear it well.
You voted for Hillary, so nothing you've said since November 2016 is valid/worth responding to. And you sucked as a cop.
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Dude come on. You're too smart to believe this.
It wasn't a tv show/movie or an episode of COPS, it was real life.
It was jarring to see the guy shoot through a windshield and then clumsily shoot outside of his window and reload but thats because 99% of people who have witnessed such actions take place have their perspective skewed because it was done by Hollywood.
He stopped the threat, he is a hero.
Stop sticks would have involved a lot of planning and shutting down streets to direct where you want the car to go, would it have been likely the police could have cleared the roads of traffic to do that safely?
I'm sure you've been to Vegas enough to know Vegas, North Vegas and Henderson isn't that big of an area. If a helicopter was in the air it should have arrived with in seconds. If the cop would have backed off the criminals would have had a better chance to escape or do something more drastic like take hostages, kill pedestrians, etc.
The cop may be a low intelligence dirtbag with a history of poor behavior and entitlement , but he made the right decision in this case was lucky his field sergeant wasn't on the radio with him before drawing his weapon and turning someone else's car into a shooting gallery at a state fare.
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Dude come on. You're too smart to believe this.
It wasn't a tv show/movie or an episode of COPS, it was real life.
It was jarring to see the guy shoot through a windshield and then clumsily shoot outside of his window and reload but thats because 99% of people who have witnessed such actions take place have their perspective skewed because it was done by Hollywood.
He stopped the threat, he is a hero.
Stop sticks would have involved a lot of planning and shutting down streets to direct where you want the car to go, would it have been likely the police could have cleared the roads of traffic to do that safely?
I'm sure you've been to Vegas enough to know Vegas, North Vegas and Henderson isn't that big of an area. If a helicopter was in the air it should have arrived with in seconds. If the cop would have backed off the criminals would have had a better chance to escape or do something more drastic like take hostages, kill pedestrians, etc.
The cop may be a low intelligence dirtbag with a history of poor behavior and entitlement , but he made the right decision in this case.
You are wasting common sense here... but good post
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You voted for Hillary, so nothing you've said since November 2016 is valid/worth responding to. And you sucked as a cop.
You are on a roll being wrong...... why stop now..
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LOL
Well played sir.
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You are on a roll being wrong...... why stop now..
Well, you're soft-pedalling on the replies so I may as well, no need to kick a man when he isn't hitting you back.
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LOL
Well played sir.
Thanks man. Always enjoyed your posts, even if we don't agree on everything. Respectful throughout as usual. ;)
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Thanks man. Always enjoyed your posts, even if we don't agree on everything. Respectful throughout as usual. ;)
Ditto bro. You're an intelligent dude and your perspective helps me to think outside of my "box".*
*it's surprising how many high level thinking people actually post here when you consider what this site is.
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I’m actually trained in hand to hand combat and the operation of multiple firearms.
Those cops went about it the wrong way.
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I’m actually trained in hand to hand combat and the operation of multiple firearms.
Those cops went about it the wrong way.
Sears stockboy training?
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Maybe it was this officer that shot through Alex’s windshield many moons ago?
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I’m actually trained in hand to hand combat and the operation of multiple firearms.
Those cops went about it the wrong way.
What was the right way.. and Im not saying they were text book correct... I'm just curious as to your perspective
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I’m actually trained in hand to hand combat and the operation of multiple firearms.
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Sears stockboy training?
I think he meant something a bit more sexual...
Bench
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Maybe it was this officer that shot through Alex’s windshield many moons ago?
hahaha
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Sears stockboy training?
That is how it all began.