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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Royalty on April 13, 2006, 05:06:31 PM
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(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/dorian-yates-blood-and-guts/24.JPG)
This is all I found
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monster deadlifts.
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Yates for governor! ;D
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/diablo86/200lbrows.jpg)
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that was the article with him and Mike Francois.
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yeah the one I was talking about was a cover from 1990
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I thought someone said Dorian was gonna be on the cover of this month's FLEX issue and even went as far as posting the cover. ???
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that weight is sick but what kind of range of motion can you achieve the dumbell is across half your body.
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You mean this ????? ???
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monster deadlifts.
I think he's doing barball rows.
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that weight is sick but what kind of range of motion can you achieve the dumbell is across half your body.
haha yeah thats what i was thinking. I have the cover of Eddie Robinson doing extensions with the 2 hundie. Rich Gaspari is training with him. another good one is Dorians "shockin Pictorial" from 1992 to 1993 his growth is just insane.
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy190.jpg)
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy190.jpg)
Please tell me his arm is photoshopped in that picture :-X :-\
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200's thats nothing. We had 300 lb DB's at Worlds here and several guys did those including Ronnie for 12 I think. 200's are used for warmups for allot of guys here.
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Johnnie Jackson did 200 pound one-arm rows on the Flex cover a couple issues ago from a real workout with Warren. That's bad-ass. 8)
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My gym goes up to 150 dbs. I use them for good reps. I wonder what 200Lbs would feel like! (dumbell rows)
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This pics gets used by Flex a lot:
http://www.getbig.com/magazine/flex/flex9701.htm
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Johnnie Jackson did 200 pound one-arm rows on the Flex cover a couple issues ago from a real workout with Warren. That's bad-ass. 8)
Fake dumbbells ::)
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monster deadlifts.
Barbell Rows. Blood and Guts dickhead.
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Barbell Rows. Blood and Guts dickhead.
;D
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when you do barbell rows it's good to raise your body up a little bit when you bring the weight up. i think this is because if you try to remain completely still the weight brings you down a little bit and you dont feel the lats that much.
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ive used 100's and 135lbs but wouldnt even attempt a 200. Bear in mind i dont train so i think i have the capacity to get to the 150's with strict training and eating
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(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/fl/fl0808.jpg)
Thanks dude! That cover scared a lot of pros back in 90. Back then they trained with half that weight and thought they were training heavy.
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the only pro that trained that heavy back then (besides Yates) was Renel Janvier.
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the only pro that trained that heavy back (besides Yates) then was Renel Janvier.
yeah i heard that Coleman trains back really light. ::)
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Ronnie wasnt pro until late 1991
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Ronnie wasnt pro until late 1991
sarcasm, 0wned ;D
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sarcasm, 0wned ;D
right now Im using a screw driver to pick his face out of the tread on my boot
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right now Im using a screw driver to pick his face out of the tread on my boot
The troll probably won't come back to this thread now. Excellent work ;D
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200's thats nothing. We had 300 lb DB's at Worlds here and several guys did those including Ronnie for 12 I think. 200's are used for warmups for allot of guys here.
That's what I'm talkin about! I remember when some mag posted a mention that Ronnie was seen in a gym in Hawaii rowing 330lb'rs. It's plenty believable, I'd still like to see a pic though. 8)
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That's what I'm talkin about! I remember when some mag posted a mention that Ronnie was seen in a gym in Hawaii rowing 330lb'rs. It's plenty believable, I'd still like to see a pic though. 8)
I lived in the Honolulu area from Sept 1997 into early August of 2000. The World Gym downtown off Alamoana Blvd behind CompUSA had 300 pounders. There was a pic autographed to the owner of Ronnie onearm rowing one of the 300's. He wrote "Hey Shane, you need to get heavier dumbells" on the pic. That was an awesome gym. I heard it shut down not long after I moved back to the mainland.
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I lived in the Honolulu area from Sept 1997 into early August of 2000. The World Gym downtown off Alamoana Blvd behind CompUSA had 300 pounders. There was a pic autographed to the owner of Ronnie onearm rowing one of the 300's. He wrote "Hey Shane, you need to get heavier dumbells" on the pic. That was an awesome gym. I heard it shut down not long after I moved back to the mainland.
Yes that is the we trained at. Later on in the front entrance he setup a bench press with whatever the world record was in the bench press at the time. Each time it was broke he would add weight. It closed because someone caught it on fire. We later tried to reopen in 2001 but no one had any faith. Shane was a good guy too. The block where CompUSA is, is the block where I was building my gym Champiions Fitness Center. 160,000 sq.ft. with the weight room alone being the length and width of a football field with a 40' ceiling. Over 40 tons of freeweights.
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Thanks dude!
you're welcome
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How good are dumbbell rows for the delts? I really need to "bring up" my mid and rear delts.
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Yes that is the we trained at. Later on in the front entrance he setup a bench press with whatever the world record was in the bench press at the time. Each time it was broke he would add weight. It closed because someone caught it on fire. We later tried to reopen in 2001 but no one had any faith. Shane was a good guy too. The block where CompUSA is, is the block where I was building my gym Champiions Fitness Center. 160,000 sq.ft. with the weight room alone being the length and width of a football field with a 40' ceiling. Over 40 tons of freeweights.
World's was huge and had to be the best equipped gym I've ever trained at by far. I can fondly recall the huge plastic globe-like containers of chalk they had everywhere, and that they had a large number of flat and incline benches, squat racks, power racks, etc. The times I was there I don't recall ever having to work in or wait for anything because there were so many of everything.
Are there any gyms anything like that in Honolulu nowadays? Seems like I remember that when I first got out there, there had been a Gold's downtown that had closed or changed to a 24hr Fitness or something. I don't think World's was open when I first moved out there. I'd like to go back for a vacation maybe later this year. Who knows, I may decide not to leave.
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How good are dumbbell rows for the delts? I really need to "bring up" my mid and rear delts.
For the rear delts, I've found that standing bentover laterals (preferably with a chest support to faciliate heavier weight and for better isolation - I've found this will also help put meat on the side delts, BTW) work well.
Also, any type of rowing movement where you bring the bar, dumbells, cable, or machine handle to the chest area (rather than to the lower abdomen)keeping the elbows angled out to the sides will hit the rear delts. I particularly like to do seated machine rows this way as a rear delt exercise on shoulder day.
Of course, don't leave out heavy overhead presses.
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300lb db rows.... whatever. I think there really comes a point where your just ego blasting. Considering tempo, I dont think most guys could do 170's for even a 1 second pause at the top with a 3 second lower. nonsense.
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300lb db rows.... whatever. I think there really comes a point where your just ego blasting. Considering tempo, I dont think most guys could do 170's for even a 1 second pause at the top with a 3 second lower. nonsense.
I sure hope they can...i can do what you just proposed and i'm not even close to the strength of those guys.
8)
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300lb db rows.... whatever. I think there really comes a point where your just ego blasting. Considering tempo, I dont think most guys could do 170's for even a 1 second pause at the top with a 3 second lower. nonsense.
Contrary to what muscle mags, Ellington Darden, and the odd online guru claim, most pros (and in fact most serious weight trainers, myself included) don't do reps anywhere near that slow. If I do 12-15 reps, my set takes as little as 30 seconds to complete - maybe 40-45 seconds max, depending upon the ROM of the exercise. If I do 8-10 reps, it takes as little as 20 seconds, maybe 30 seconds max.
Going too slow obviously limits the amount of weight one can use. For those with less-than-stellar genetics who are not on a ton of drugs, progressive overload is probably the most important factor, at least during the "growing years". Of course there is such a thing as going too fast and not controlling the weight. Bouncing, jerking, dropping, etc is obviously not good either.
I don't know if I've ever encountered anyone of significant size and / or strength who actually regularly took more than one second on the concentric and two seconds (usually only one) on the eccentric - UNLESS of course they were deliberately doing so in order to try something different or to convince people that they actually followed whatever training method they were trying to promote (superslow, Arthur Jones HIT / Nautilus, etc).