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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ex Coelis on April 13, 2006, 07:31:34 PM
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It's just on the news now - Barry Bonds might or is being indicted for perjury after lying to congress about being a juice-monkey - its on cnn right now
SAN FRANCISCO, California (CNN) -- A federal grand jury is considering whether to indict San Francisco Giants slugger Barry Bonds for perjury because of testimony he gave to another grand jury in 2003, CNN has learned.
Bonds told the first grand jury in December 2003 that he was clean. The new panel has been hearing testimony for a month about whether the baseball superstar lied about his steroid use during the hearing, several sources said.
"This is extremely bad news for Barry Bonds," said CNN senior legal analyst Jeff Toobin, "because a federal prosecutor doesn't start looking into perjury unless he has a pretty good idea he's going to find perjury at the end of the day."
The U.S. Attorney's office would neither confirm nor deny the report. Grand jury proceedings are generally kept secret.
Bonds' legal team is unaware that a grand jury convened to hear the case, said Harry Stern, a spokesman for the attorneys
On December 4, 2003, Bonds and other athletes testified in the BALCO case, which targeted Greg Anderson, a trainer and longtime friend to Bonds, and Victor Conte, founder of the Bay-Area Laboratory Co-Operative, a sports nutrition center alleged to have created designer steroids.
During the hearing, prosecutors asked Bonds if he had used steroids, and when the man who is seeking to become baseball's all-time home run king emerged from the hearing, his attorney Mike Raines told reporters:
"Barry testified truthfully to the grand jury. Barry Bonds is clean."
Conte spent four months in jail after pleading guilty to distributing steroids, and Anderson was sentenced to three months on the same charge.
Bonds and his colleagues were offered immunity for their testimony. The deal was simple: Tell the truth, and you draw a walk; lie and go down for perjury.
Raines has long said that the federal government is out to get his client. And without admitting any wrongdoing on his client's behalf, he has suggested that prosecutors, with their immunity deal, are setting a familiar snare for Bonds.
"Look no further than Martha Stewart. The trap is perjury," Raines said. "You offer immunity and you get him in there and then you ask them questions and you get them on lying to federal officers.
"That's the trap. That's exactly what they got Martha for."
Raines also has suggested that prosecutors are going after his client because of his name and notoriety, not the allegations leveled against him.
Toobin said that wouldn't surprise him.
"Prosecutors are supposed to go after the big fish. It's those kind of prosecutions that tell everyone that it's not OK to lie to prosecutors or to a grand jury," the legal analyst said.
A House committee considered perjury charges against Baltimore Oriole Rafael Palmeiro when he failed a drug test for steroids following congressional testimony in March 2005 that he had never used them. The committee decided in November not to pursue the charges, citing "confusing and contradictory" information, according to The Washington Post.
"We couldn't find any evidence of steroid use prior to his testimony," committee chairman Rep. Thomas A. Davis III was quoted in the paper as saying. "That's not a finding of innocence, but it's a finding that we could not substantiate perjury."
Bonds' repeated and adamant denial that he knowingly used steroids came under new scrutiny when "Game of Shadows" -- billed as an expose -- hit bookstore shelves last month. The book claims Bonds used steroids he obtained from Anderson during the 1998-2003 seasons. That time span includes the 2001 season in which Bonds swatted 73 homers, surpassing Mark McGwire's single-season record.
Major League Baseball did not begin testing for steroids until 2003. Since the league began testing, the MLB has never reported that Bonds failed a drug test.
Raines has issued a statement saying Bonds has no intention of reading the book. "Barry regards this as an unfortunate distraction to his friends and teammates at the San Francisco Giants, and to the good name and the great players in Major League Baseball," read the statement on Bonds' Web site.
It further stated that the allegations have "misled the public in the interest of financial and professional self promotion."
After the book was published, MLB Commissioner Bud Selig appointed former U.S. Senator George Mitchell to oversee an investigation into steroid use in baseball. (Full story)
Bonds missed most of last season with knee problems and had three surgeries to repair the knee. With 708 career home runs, Bonds trails Babe Ruth by six homers and Hank Aaron, the all-time leader, by 47. He has yet to hit a home run this season.
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and there it is - good job, Rob - you've got "mad skillz"
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and there it is - good job, Rob - you've got "mad skillz"
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I didn't know Samwise Gamgee was an IFBB pro?! Kewl!
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I didn't know Samwise Gamgee was an IFBB pro?! Kewl!
dude, that was funny as hell
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Bush gets away with lying about WMD's, but Barry Bonds gets prison for lying about steroids.
Brutal priorities.
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he better get a good lawyer
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This would be a shame. I wonder about the focus of our legal system sometimes.
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I choose to get the facts from Barry's new reality show "BONDS ON BONDS"...just like Barry says..if we want to know the facts we should just ask him. ::)
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I choose to get the facts from Barry's new reality show "BONDS ON BONDS"...just like Barry says..if we want to know the facts we should just ask him. ::)
Does he really have a reality show? Jesus Christ, TV has gone too far. :-\
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Does he really have a reality show? Jesus Christ, TV has gone too far. :-\
how is a show featuring someone with legitimate talent a sign of things having "gone too far"?
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Does he really have a reality show? Jesus Christ, TV has gone too far. :-\
advertised on Sports Center every morning.....yeah let's just go to Barry for all the facts about his life...we'll get the truth that way!
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I guess they'll do anything to keep the black man from breaking any more records. McGwire breaking Maris's record is okay but they can't have Bonds surpassing Ruth. Makes sense if you're in the KKK.
Special "Uncle Tom" Ed
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The guy's a prick anyway. ;D
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I guess they'll do anything to keep the black man from breaking any more records. McGwire breaking Maris's record is okay but they can't have Bonds surpassing Ruth. Makes sense if you're in the KKK.
Special "Uncle Tom" Ed
Babe Ruth doesn't have any homerun records Special "Dumbass" Ed
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Babe Ruth doesn't have any homerun records Special "Dumbass" Ed
If you knew the type of humor Ed wrote you would know he is kidding and being sarcastic
You sir are the dumbass
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Ya think jail might ruin his wonderful disposition? ;D
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advertised on Sports Center every morning.....yeah let's just go to Barry for all the facts about his life...we'll get the truth that way!
HAHAHA
ya cause we know how open he always is. when is the last time he gave a decent answer to a reporter ::) guys an ass.
i agree athat the whole cracking down on steroids in baseball is a farce and a waste of time but i hope this ass goes to jail. lets see him talk to his new prison boyfriend the way he does to everyone else
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hahahaha, I hope so. Good place for the turd. hahaha
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Babe Ruth doesn't have any homerun records Special "Dumbass" Ed
But he had it for a long long time.......that he still is the most "popular" baseball player of all time...........
Falling to a 3rd place would hurt big deal his popularity in generations to come........
In other words, Is ok to break Hank's record but in other to do that u have to knock The Bambino first..........and that is not "fair"?
Babe Ruth woudn't hit 300 hr.s If he was playing the game these days..........but that's another thread.
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All's I can say is....Are they REALLY going to waste taxpayers money on this bullshit? this country is fvcked up sometimes.
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But he had it for a long long time.......that he still is the most "popular" baseball player of all time...........
Falling to a 3rd place would hurt big deal his popularity in generations to come........
In other words, Is ok to break Hank's record but in other to do that u have to knock The Bambino first..........and that is not "fair"?
Babe Ruth woudn't hit 300 hr.s If he was playing the game these days..........but that's another thread.
Babe Ruth could be a great player these days. He was just a natural!
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Even if Babe Ruth could have juiced, he would only be looking at 5-10% gains. 8)
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Even if Babe Ruth could have juiced, he would only be looking at 5-10% gains. 8)
Thats true, but he played great without juice, and he didn't even have a good tan ;D
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Even if Babe Ruth could have juiced, he would only be looking at 5-10% gains. 8)
When you're right you're right, and you are right! Instead of 714 homers, he would have hit 750-785 homers; and he would have obviously seen a corresponding 5-10% improvement in stats across the board - RBI's, batting average, hits, walks, etc. As well, he also would have obviously realized a 5-10% reduction in fielding errors, strikeouts, etc. Too bad they didn't have gear back then, huh?
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When you're right you're right, and you are right! Instead of 714 homers, he would have hit 750-785 homers; and he would have obviously seen a corresponding 5-10% improvement in stats across the board - RBI's, batting average, hits, walks, etc. As well, he also would have obviously realized a 5-10% reduction in fielding errors, strikeouts, etc. Too bad they didn't have gear back then, huh?
Yeah, ain't that the truth. People don't realize that if you took yesterday's players and put them in modern times, their work ethics would be greater and they would get the benefits of tanning booths and steroids.
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Bush gets away with lying about WMD's, but Barry Bonds gets prison for lying about steroids.
Brutal priorities.
LOL, I don't which is sadder or more pathetic, those that are shocked Bonds lied about being juiced, or...
those that voted to RE-elect Bushy in 2004 ???
Howard
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Bush gets away with lying about WMD's, but Barry Bonds gets prison for lying about steroids.
Brutal priorities.
well if it makes you feel any better. If Colin Powell or Condi Rice were president, they would be going to jail also :-\
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I doubt Bonds will ever do any time in jail. He can just use his, "I didn't know what was in the special sauce?" line. That should suffice. Granted gear is illegal, but to go to jail for using is a bit ridiculous. In fact, they should just legalize everything. There would be less crime and more crackwhores on the street. Even if it were legal, I still wouldn't waste my time on any of it.
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He wouldn't go for using gear but he could go for lying to a grand jury about his usage...But if he ever went to trial for it, then it would be a he said she said...Bonds would get off no problem...