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Title: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 12, 2018, 03:50:07 PM
When should one change gears?

is there a signal/ a feel for when to go up/down gears to avoid stalling?

any tips/advices appreciated

learning to drive a manual car here
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chaos on September 12, 2018, 04:12:44 PM
What kind of car?
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 12, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
When should one change gears?

is there a signal/ a feel for when to go up/down gears to avoid stalling?

any tips/advices appreciated

learning to drive a manual car here


When it winds up.....but it takes getting used to the pitch to shift. 
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 12, 2018, 04:22:45 PM
Rev it to 5K and dump the clutch
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 12, 2018, 04:23:20 PM
I have been driving a manual car for over 40 years. Driving manual car is almost like riding a bike. Someone can talk till they are blue in the face about how to do it but by only doing it will you learn. Two methods to know when to shift. One is listening to the motor wind up. The other is to use the tach.  If you get efficient at shifting you can get better gas mileage than an automatic same car. You can also out accelerate the same car with an automatic. I read reports about sports cars doing better in the quarter mile with the new automatics. Then I see the driver is some 25 year old who probably doesn't have a lot of experience shifting a car. An example of this is the Corvette.  The automatic beat the manual.  You have to have the experience to skip gears like starting in second gear off the line. Maybe third.  
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 12, 2018, 04:24:36 PM
thanks for tips guys

I found a video on U tube which is useful

cheers
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Marty Champions on September 12, 2018, 04:29:05 PM
sometimes u gotta do a rollin start to get it to crank, we call it a redneck benchpress
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Fortress on September 12, 2018, 04:31:44 PM
The engine RPMs move past a smooth “hum”.

Been driving stick for decades.

I’d NEVER buy an automatic.

Manual provides greater control and facility over the powertrain.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: calfzilla on September 12, 2018, 04:32:21 PM
I learned on a motorcycle.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Fortress on September 12, 2018, 04:33:44 PM
I learned on a motorcycle.

Me, too.

Then I did my driver’s ed on a stick. By choice. This was 1986.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: The_Punisher on September 12, 2018, 04:47:46 PM
this driver here has got to be one of the best manual shifter I've ever seen......fuck yeah


Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chaos on September 12, 2018, 04:49:44 PM
Me, too.

Then I did my driver’s ed on a stick. By choice. This was 1986.
You're old! :D
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Fortress on September 12, 2018, 05:10:15 PM
You're old! :D

No shit. Forty-eight.  ;D
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: urj200 on September 12, 2018, 05:45:12 PM
this driver here has got to be one of the best manual shifter I've ever seen......fuck yeah




Guess you've never seen Walter Rohrl


Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: IroNat on September 12, 2018, 05:53:30 PM

rrrrrrRRRRRRR(shift)rrrrrrrrrrRRRRRR(shift)rrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRR(shift)...etc.

RRRRRrrrrrr(shift)RRRRrrrrrrr(shift)RRRRrrrrrr(shift)...etc.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: cart@@n on September 12, 2018, 06:14:09 PM
If you want to save gas shift at lower rotations, and use higher gears.

If you want more performance, shift at higher rotations.

The advantage of manual is that you can decide how your vehicle works.

Another advantage is to downshift downhill and go into "engine break" as a way to control speed, also if your car has electronic fuel injection it goes into "cutoff" mode and uses zero gas in "engine break".
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Dokey111 on September 12, 2018, 06:25:11 PM
I learned on a quarter arcade game
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: illuminati on September 12, 2018, 06:27:57 PM
Get a friend with a manual car to drive out somewhere quiet & spacious
Get in the driving seat & Drive. Simple.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Palumboism on September 12, 2018, 10:08:36 PM
When should one change gears?

is there a signal/ a feel for when to go up/down gears to avoid stalling?

any tips/advices appreciated

learning to drive a manual car here

Most cars with manuals have a tachometer.  Try to keep the rpm in the power band.  For most cars this will be 1500 rpm to 3000 rpm, but it depends on the engine. 

Also, you should know what speeds are best for your car to shift gears.
for my car it was:
0-15 mph (first gear)
15-25 mph (second gear)
25-40 mph (third gear)
40-55 mph (fourth gear)
55-70 mph (fifth gear)

Learning to start on a hill is the most difficult thing, so don't attempt to do this till the very end.  You should first start in an empty parking lot just starting and stopping in first gear.   

Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Ted SuperSet on September 12, 2018, 10:12:03 PM
usa usa usa!!!

Me dont need that them there stick shift thingy!!!

To complicated!!
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: falco on September 12, 2018, 10:39:36 PM
In manual cars usually gears are shifted at lower revs than in automatics.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Rev it to 5K and dump the clutch
. 😂
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Explorerspl on September 13, 2018, 07:21:53 AM
I have been driving a manual car for over 40 years. Driving manual car is almost like riding a bike. Someone can talk till they are blue in the face about how to do it but by only doing it will you learn. Two methods to know when to shift. One is listening to the motor wind up. The other is to use the tach.  If you get efficient at shifting you can get better gas mileage than an automatic same car. You can also out accelerate the same car with an automatic. I read reports about sports cars doing better in the quarter mile with the new automatics. Then I see the driver is some 25 year old who probably doesn't have a lot of experience shifting a car. An example of this is the Corvette.  The automatic beat the manual.  You have to have the experience to skip gears like starting in second gear off the line. Maybe third.  

Lol you are stuck in the 80s bud.

Automatics get better mpg than a manual now a days,they are more efficient than a human.
Automatics are always faster on a track now a days also,they have 8-10 gears to stay in their powerband for the entire quarter mile.

The 80s-90s slush boxes and modern autos are like comparing atari to a PS4. But blame kids being bad at driving.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Conker on September 13, 2018, 08:36:56 AM
just before the engine sounds like it's gonna blow up, change.
either that or count to 5 before moving through each gear
both techniques work well
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Conker on September 13, 2018, 08:40:58 AM
Most cars with manuals have a tachometer.  Try to keep the rpm in the power band.  For most cars this will be 1500 rpm to 3000 rpm, but it depends on the engine.  

Also, you should know what speeds are best for your car to shift gears.
for my car it was:
0-15 mph (first gear)
15-25 mph (second gear)
25-40 mph (third gear)
40-55 mph (fourth gear)
55-70 mph (fifth gear)

Learning to start on a hill is the most difficult thing, so don't attempt to do this till the very end.  You should first start in an empty parking lot just starting and stopping in first gear.  



if you want to go through a sht ton of fuel and have the engine die within 5 years do this.

if you want to preserve fuel and get 200k + miles out of the engine, try to get up into 5th by 40mph. unless your driving a sports car
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: sync pulse on September 13, 2018, 09:12:52 AM
I literally learned how to drive a stick on the way home from the dealer...It was a fun little '78 beat-to-piss Scirocco.  
These are just a point to start with, you will learn to feel how best to shift.

After you get this mastered, you should learn "downshifting" or engine braking.


Sigh...the previous owner lightly hit something and had it fixed up...poorly.

Rain dripped on the wiring harness and connectors behind the dash...

The engine was great, it drove great, but the electrical system died a dog's death.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: DooM_ on September 13, 2018, 09:18:19 AM
if you want to go through a sht ton of fuel and have the engine die within 5 years do this.

if you want to preserve fuel and get 200k + miles out of the engine, try to get up into 5th by 40mph. unless your driving a sports car

fifth gear at 40 mph ? you are a legit retard
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: BIG DUB on September 13, 2018, 09:21:42 AM
Get used to your legs feeling like rubber if you get stuck in bumper to bumper traffic.. ;)
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Palumboism on September 14, 2018, 12:19:22 AM
if you want to go through a sht ton of fuel and have the engine die within 5 years do this.

if you want to preserve fuel and get 200k + miles out of the engine, try to get up into 5th by 40mph. unless your driving a sports car

You don't even know what kind of car I had.  I would've had no power if I was in fifth by 40 mph.  Fourth gear had the engine at 2000 rpm at 40mph.  By 3000 rpm I would hit 55 mph and be ready for Fifth.  I could play the manual on that car like a violin.  Honda's have a beautiful feeling precise stick and the engines love to rev. 


Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Conker on September 14, 2018, 12:54:19 AM
fifth gear at 40 mph ? you are a legit retard

no, i am just one of the very few people that actually know how to drive. most people drive like retards (no doubt you included) drive in way too low gears and burn the engine out long before it's time.

last work vehicle i owned (a renault, not exactly renowned for quality or longevity) i got it with 60k miles on the clock , 3 years old. i drove it till 244k miles and still managed to sell it on for the equivalent of $2500 because the engine still pulled like a train. and apart from changing the clutch twice, it never sprung a single mechanical fault in all the time i drove it.

due to knowing how to drive a vehicle properly.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Parker on September 14, 2018, 05:01:07 AM
no, i am just one of the very few people that actually know how to drive. most people drive like retards (no doubt you included) drive in way too low gears and burn the engine out long before it's time.

last work vehicle i owned (a renault, not exactly renowned for quality or longevity) i got it with 60k miles on the clock , 3 years old. i drove it till 244k miles and still managed to sell it on for the equivalent of $2500 because the engine still pulled like a train. and apart from changing the clutch twice, it never sprung a single mechanical fault in all the time i drove it.

due to knowing how to drive a vehicle properly.
Thats because Europe the cars people use tend to have small 4 cylinders or 6s. Whereas in the US, you have more of a mixture, but more 6s and 8s. Which means the transmission will go many times before the engine. Over where you are, it would probably be the opposite. There are probably more engine places over there than transmission places.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: DooM_ on September 14, 2018, 06:35:02 AM
no, i am just one of the very few people that actually know how to drive. most people drive like retards (no doubt you included) drive in way too low gears and burn the engine out long before it's time.

last work vehicle i owned (a renault, not exactly renowned for quality or longevity) i got it with 60k miles on the clock , 3 years old. i drove it till 244k miles and still managed to sell it on for the equivalent of $2500 because the engine still pulled like a train. and apart from changing the clutch twice, it never sprung a single mechanical fault in all the time i drove it.

due to knowing how to drive a vehicle properly.

so you drive in fifth gear in residential areas and city streets . . . ?
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Explorerspl on September 14, 2018, 06:59:53 AM
if you want to go through a sht ton of fuel and have the engine die within 5 years do this.

if you want to preserve fuel and get 200k + miles out of the engine, try to get up into 5th by 40mph. unless your driving a sports car

Lol you will get horrible mileage driving around in 5th at 40mph,going to be lugging the car from being so far away from making decent torque. My Hondas always got best mpg cruising around 3k rpm

The proper way to figure it out would be to get a vacuum gauge and Google how to use it properly for fuel economy.

Don't know why I even read car posts on this site anymore,always a constant facepalm
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chrisbro on September 14, 2018, 07:03:25 AM
When should one change gears?

is there a signal/ a feel for when to go up/down gears to avoid stalling?

any tips/advices appreciated

learning to drive a manual car here
GEEZ ::)
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: residue on September 14, 2018, 07:07:36 AM
Most cars with manuals have a tachometer.  Try to keep the rpm in the power band.  For most cars this will be 1500 rpm to 3000 rpm, but it depends on the engine. 

Also, you should know what speeds are best for your car to shift gears.
for my car it was:
0-15 mph (first gear)
15-25 mph (second gear)
25-40 mph (third gear)
40-55 mph (fourth gear)
55-70 mph (fifth gear)

Learning to start on a hill is the most difficult thing, so don't attempt to do this till the very end.  You should first start in an empty parking lot just starting and stopping in first gear.   



most cars come with hill start assist these days
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chrisbro on September 14, 2018, 07:08:31 AM
no, i am just one of the very few people that actually know how to drive. most people drive like retards (no doubt you included) drive in way too low gears and burn the engine out long before it's time.

last work vehicle i owned (a renault, not exactly renowned for quality or longevity) i got it with 60k miles on the clock , 3 years old. i drove it till 244k miles and still managed to sell it on for the equivalent of $2500 because the engine still pulled like a train. and apart from changing the clutch twice, it never sprung a single mechanical fault in all the time i drove it.

due to knowing how to drive a vehicle properly.
40 in 5th gear. you really are an asshole. where did you get your Licence? Pakistan? would not like to see you driving some of the old trucks where you doubled the Clutch.  ::)
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Dokey111 on September 14, 2018, 07:20:35 AM
40 in 5th gear. you really are an asshole. where did you get your Licence? Pakistan? would not like to see you driving some of the old trucks where you doubled the Clutch.  ::)

def gonna use that some time
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Griffith on September 14, 2018, 08:02:56 AM
40 in 5th gear. you really are an asshole. where did you get your Licence? Pakistan? would not like to see you driving some of the old trucks where you doubled the Clutch.  ::)

Driving at just over 60 km/h in 5th gear  ;D
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chrisbro on September 14, 2018, 08:11:19 AM
Driving at just over 60 km/h in 5th gear  ;D
Driving around the Streets you will mainly use 3rd, 4th gear. I also Block Change. 4th to 2nd gear. You just got to get the Speed down first just perfect then into 2nd. you just know from experience. 5th gear i only use on main roads or motorway. I got a truck Licence & the old trucks were a pain at times.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Conker on September 14, 2018, 08:14:39 AM
Lol you will get horrible mileage driving around in 5th at 40mph,going to be lugging the car from being so far away from making decent torque. My Hondas always got best mpg cruising around 3k rpm

The proper way to figure it out would be to get a vacuum gauge and Google how to use it properly for fuel economy.

Don't know why I even read car posts on this site anymore,always a constant facepalm


nah, i get very decent fuel economy out of my vehicles. up until a few years ago i used to do around 50k miles per year, i probably do around half of that these days as i have other people doing more of my donkey work. but fuel economy is very important to my business. i am a very experienced driver with a lot of miles under my belt.

it's a common misconception you have. nearly everyone drives around in too low gears. if you actually know how too drive it's not difficult to tell you're in too high a gear as you can feel the engine isn't properly engaged. majority of people change gears too late and burn up extra fuel and kill the engine early at the same time.

2nd time my clutch went on my last vehicle my friend who is a mechanic drove it from my house (with no clutch) to his garage around 15 miles away. when he brought it back he told me he couldn't believe how nicely it drove since it had about 220k miles already on the clock.

i know this is because of the way i drive.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chrisbro on September 14, 2018, 08:18:01 AM

nah, i get very decent fuel economy out of my vehicles. up until a few years ago i used to do around 50k miles per year, i probably do around half of that these days as i have other people doing more of my donkey work. but fuel economy is very important to my business. i am a very experienced driver with a lot of miles under my belt.

it's a common misconception you have. nearly everyone drives around in too low gears. if you actually know how too drive it's not difficult to tell you're in too high a gear as you can feel the engine isn't properly engaged. majority of people change gears too late and burn up extra fuel and kill the engine early at the same time.

2nd time my clutch went on my last vehicle my friend who is a mechanic drove it from my house (with no clutch) to his garage around 15 miles away. when he brought it back he told me he couldn't believe how nicely it drove since it had about 220k miles already on the clock.

i know this is because of the way i drive.
If the Clutch goes it is a sign you are a shit Driver. Bet you burn out the Clutch. better you go to Pakistan & ride a cow you fucking moron.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Conker on September 14, 2018, 08:24:58 AM
If the Clutch goes it is a sign you are a shit Driver. Bet you burn out the Clutch. better you go to Pakistan & ride a cow you fucking moron.

lol stfu you thick white trash piece of sht. adults are talking here. if you had any fking clue you'd know a clutch is a wearable part, like brakes and tyres.

it's best you keep quiet and leave a slight bit of doubt in people's minds whether or not you're a moron. as when you speak you remove all doubt.  
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chrisbro on September 14, 2018, 08:30:31 AM

nah, i get very decent fuel economy out of my vehicles. up until a few years ago i used to do around 50k miles per year, i probably do around half of that these days as i have other people doing more of my donkey work. but fuel economy is very important to my business. i am a very experienced driver with a lot of miles under my belt.

it's a common misconception you have. nearly everyone drives around in too low gears. if you actually know how too drive it's not difficult to tell you're in too high a gear as you can feel the engine isn't properly engaged. majority of people change gears too late and burn up extra fuel and kill the engine early at the same time.

2nd time my clutch went on my last vehicle my friend who is a mechanic drove it from my house (with no clutch) to his garage around 15 miles away. when he brought it back he told me he couldn't believe how nicely it drove since it had about 220k miles already on the clock.

i know this is because of the way i drive.
2nd time my clutch went on my last vehicle what an asshole. goat fucking spick kunt
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Conker on September 14, 2018, 08:36:59 AM
2nd time my clutch went on my last vehicle what an asshole. goat fucking spick kunt


2nd clutch went at 220k miles you fkin mong child. go look up life expectancy of a clutch on just about any vehicle, i will bet they will all say less than 100k miles (probably way less)

as i said, trailer park boy. best to keep quiet and leave that slight doubt there.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chrisbro on September 14, 2018, 08:43:17 AM
2nd clutch went at 220k miles you fkin mong child. go look up life expectancy of a clutch on just about any vehicle, i will bet they will all say less than 100k miles (probably way less)

as i said, trailer park boy. best to keep quiet and leave that slight doubt there.
I just had a shit & when i went to flush i looked in the bowl & thought of you. true Story.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Conker on September 14, 2018, 08:48:50 AM
and no doubt you have one of those chemical toilets as you live in a caravan, you scummy piece of trash
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chrisbro on September 14, 2018, 08:55:26 AM
and no doubt you have one of those chemical toilets as you live in a caravan, you scummy piece of trash
dude honestly i have never burned out two clutches on any car. I had a Clutch Problem with one car after 9 years...lol you don´t know how to drive end off so shut up & go ride a cow or better a pig :D
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Conker on September 14, 2018, 08:59:54 AM
dude honestly i have never burned out two clutches on any car. I had a Clutch Problem with one car after 9 years...lol you don´t know how to drive end off so shut up & go ride a cow or better a pig :D

lool that's because you probably do less than 10k miles a year like the housewife fagg0t boy you are. now crawl back under your stone, you little p1ssflap.
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chrisbro on September 14, 2018, 09:07:13 AM
lool that's because you probably do less than 10k miles a year like the housewife fagg0t boy you are. now crawl back under your stone, you little p1ssflap.
do they even do a test for your Licence in paki land?  you are a primitive goat fucker
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: DooM_ on September 14, 2018, 09:13:29 AM
if you ever see a bald fat guy who looks like a boiled lobster with a shitty tattoo driving around like a granny and fucking up his gear changes ,  it will be conker the plonker . . .
Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: chrisbro on September 14, 2018, 09:16:24 AM
Conker …  ;D

Title: Re: Question about driving a manual (stick shift) car
Post by: Explorerspl on September 15, 2018, 09:25:16 AM

nah, i get very decent fuel economy out of my vehicles. up until a few years ago i used to do around 50k miles per year, i probably do around half of that these days as i have other people doing more of my donkey work. but fuel economy is very important to my business. i am a very experienced driver with a lot of miles under my belt.

it's a common misconception you have. nearly everyone drives around in too low gears. if you actually know how too drive it's not difficult to tell you're in too high a gear as you can feel the engine isn't properly engaged. majority of people change gears too late and burn up extra fuel and kill the engine early at the same time.

2nd time my clutch went on my last vehicle my friend who is a mechanic drove it from my house (with no clutch) to his garage around 15 miles away. when he brought it back he told me he couldn't believe how nicely it drove since it had about 220k miles already on the clock.

i know this is because of the way i drive.

I have a common misconception lol cute. Unlike you I don't have a friend that's a mechanic. I build my own engines and understand how gearing in a transmission works as I always regear my rear ends/transmissions for an economy/performance compromise.

Using a vacuum gauge is the only way to determine the optimal throttle position for MPG,it's science not a misconception.

I'm glad you get acceptable MPG with your driving style,but it's not optimal