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I just finished listening to Senator Collins speech. IMO she provided a very detailed and convincing explanation as to how and why she will be voting in favor of Judge Kavanaugh's appointment to the Supreme Court. I am impressed with her sincere presentation. She did and excellent job of positively acknowledging Christine Blaisey Ford's personal sacrifice and honesty.
If I lived in Maine and had voted for Senator Collins, I would be feeling good about that choice right now. If more congress people regardless of their being Republican or Democrat spoke as well as she did today, congress might regain the respect of the people of the United States.
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Gorsuch and soon Kavanugh will be put on the Supreme Court with less than 60 votes
No other justices were put on the court with so little support
That's pathetic by ANY standard
Kavanaugh will basically have a cloud over him for his entire tenure and I suspect will also be a source of protest for at least the near future
I for one and am looking forward to Kavanaugh being the deciding vote to overturn Roe v Wade just so Collins will have to explain how she got totally duped by self proclaimed prolific puker
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Gorsuch and soon Kavanugh will be put on the Supreme Court with less than 60 votes
No other justices were put on the court with so little support
That's pathetic by ANY standard
Kavanaugh will basically have a cloud over him for his entire tenure and I suspect will also be a source of protest for at least the near future
I for one and am looking forward to Kavanaugh being the deciding vote to overturn Roe v Wade just so Collins will have to explain how she got totally duped by self proclaimed prolific puker
Overturning Roe v Wade is not an issue that should be used as retribution. I sincerely hope you aren't being serious here.
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Overturning Roe v Wade is not an issue that should be used as retribution. I sincerely hope you aren't being serious here.
not sure where you're getting retribution from
I'm simply saying she's getting duped (or is deluding herself or is just plain fucking stupid)
Susan Collins has stated that she thinks Kavanaugh will uphold RvW
I think she's wrong
She said the same thing about Gorsuch and she's going to be proven wrong about that as well
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imagine how much anyone cares what you two irrelevant clowns think about anything
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imagine how much anyone cares what you two irrelevant clowns think about anything
yet you feel compelled to post telling us that no one cares
doesn't make much sense does it?
seems like you're desperate for someone to pay attention to you
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yet you feel compelled to post telling us that no one cares
doesn't make much sense does it?
seems like you're desperate for someone to pay attention to you
I like reminding the worthless that they're worthless
it makes plenty of sense to gloat over your defeated enemies, and you are defeated
when's the last time you made a thread that got almost 30 pages in two weeks in this forum?
nobody cares about you write. You shouldn't just delete your account. You should buy a gun and just give yourself some glock mouthwash and do the entire world a favor
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I just finished listening to Senator Collins speech. IMO she provided a very detailed and convincing explanation as to how and why she will be voting in favor of Judge Kavanaugh's appointment to the Supreme Court. I am impressed with her sincere presentation. She did and excellent job of positively acknowledging Christine Blaisey Ford's personal sacrifice and honesty.
If I lived in Maine and had voted for Senator Collins, I would be feeling good about that choice right now. If more congress people regardless of their being Republican or Democrat spoke as well as she did today, congress might regain the respect of the people of the United States.
It was a great speech.
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It was a great speech.
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I like reminding the worthless that they're worthless
it makes plenty of sense to gloat over your defeated enemies, and you are defeated
when's the last time you made a thread that got almost 30 pages in two weeks in this forum?
nobody cares about you write. You shouldn't just delete your account. You should buy a gun and just give yourself some glock mouthwash and do the entire world a favor
sounds like you've got a LOT of time on your hands
you seem like you the type of loser who is constantly in need of finding someone to argue with
I'd say get a life but I suspect being a moronic troll on the internet is your life
Can I assume you'll continue to follow me around like a jilted school girl
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sounds like you've got a LOT of time on your hands
you seem like you the type of loser who is constantly in need of finding someone to argue with
I'd say get a life but I suspect being a moronic troll on the internet is your life
Can I assume you'll continue to follow me around like a jilted school girl
you lost man
take it like a pussy who isn't a total pussy and admit you were wrong about everything
the 2016 election, the kavanaugh nomination, the stormy daniels shit, the russia collusion story
no matter how much you hate to admit it, you're constantly on the losing end of every argument
projecting hard too
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it's not the bath party, by the way ;)
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imagine how much anyone cares what you two irrelevant clowns think about anything
Then cut that in half. Hahaha.
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Gorsuch and soon Kavanugh will be put on the Supreme Court with less than 60 votes
No other justices were put on the court with so little support
That's pathetic by ANY standard
Kavanaugh will basically have a cloud over him for his entire tenure and I suspect will also be a source of protest for at least the near future
I for one and am looking forward to Kavanaugh being the deciding vote to overturn Roe v Wade just so Collins will have to explain how she got totally duped by self proclaimed prolific puker
No worries if it's about metrics...Amy Coney Barrett will get 70+ when Ginsburg kicks. Ginsburg to open my 2019 dead pool.
http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/07/potential-nominee-profile-amy-coney-barrett/
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not sure where you're getting retribution from
I'm simply saying she's getting duped (or is deluding herself or is just plain fucking stupid)
Susan Collins has stated that she thinks Kavanaugh will uphold RvW
I think she's wrong
She said the same thing about Gorsuch and she's going to be proven wrong about that as well
I would literally bet you money Roe v. Wade never gets overturned. We can have an escrow account with Ron holding the money or just a gentleman's agreement. I will not welch if I lose.
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No worries if it's about metrics...Amy Coney Barrett will get 70+ when Ginsburg kicks. Ginsburg to open my 2019 dead pool.
http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/07/potential-nominee-profile-amy-coney-barrett/
the vote of any future nominee won't change the fact we have two conservatives who couldn't even get to 60 votes
BTW - I'm looking forward to the SCOTUS overturning Roe v Wade
It's going to more fun that watching Republican dipishits who voted for Trump suddenly wake up and realize they might lose their Obamacare
Also going to fun watching Republicans getting illegal abortions for their mistresses
And of course going to be very fun hearing the excuses from people like Collins
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Gorsuch and soon Kavanugh will be put on the Supreme Court with less than 60 votes
No other justices were put on the court with so little support
That's pathetic by ANY standard
Kavanaugh will basically have a cloud over him for his entire tenure and I suspect will also be a source of protest for at least the near future
I for one and am looking forward to Kavanaugh being the deciding vote to overturn Roe v Wade just so Collins will have to explain how she got totally duped by self proclaimed prolific puker
And whose fault is it that every Democrat besides Manchin decided to vote against a judge with a stellar reputation except for some woman who claims he grouped her 30+ years ago with no evidence at all? It's the libs that are hyper partisan here. If Manchin keeps his senate seat in November the Republicans have to flip him to our side.
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And whose fault is it that every Democrat besides Manchin decided to vote against a judge with a stellar reputation except for some woman who claims he grouped her 30+ years ago with no evidence at all? It's the libs that are hyper partisan here. If Manchin keeps his senate seat in November the Republicans have to flip him to our side.
It does put Trump in a quandary as far as WV goes. He's come down hard against Joe Manchin in his recent rallies in his state throwing his support that Republican nobody knows about, but now he can't be seen to trash a guy who voted for his nominee, the only Democrat to do so (so far).
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you lost man
take it like a pussy who isn't a total pussy and admit you were wrong about everything
the 2016 election, the kavanaugh nomination, the stormy daniels shit, the russia collusion story
no matter how much you hate to admit it, you're constantly on the losing end of every argument
projecting hard too
It always cracks me up when people like you just roll up a bunch of different topics into one sentence and then congratulate themselves
feel free to point out where I said Kavanugh would not be put on the SCOTUS
I have no idea was "stormy daniels shit" you're referring too (I'd be amazed if you even knew what you were referring to)
Same goes for Russian collusion. All I've ever said on that is investigate everything.
I assume you'll ignore this post since nobody cares about what I say
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It does put Trump in a quandary as far as WV goes. He's come down hard against Joe Manchin in his recent rallies in his state throwing his support that Republican nobody knows about, but now he can't be seen to trash a guy who voted for his nominee, the only Democrat to do so (so far).
I really think if Manchin wins he's going to flip but obviously he can't now with the election coming up. The governor of West Virginia won as a Democrat and flipped a couple weeks later. I am close to West Virginia and get their local t.v. stations and it is wall to wall political ads. It's going to be a miserable next month watching any t.v.
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It always cracks me up when people like you just roll up a bunch of different topics into one sentence and then congratulate themselves
feel free to point out where I said Kavanugh would not be put on the SCOTUS
I have no idea was "stormy daniels shit" you're referring too (I'd be amazed if you even knew what you were referring to)
Same goes for Russian collusion. All I've ever said on that is investigate everything.
I assume you'll ignore this post since nobody cares about what I say
You've been writing pro-Avenatti, pro-Daniels material for months, hoping it sinks this President. Dude, that was a scam. She did it to get interviews and a book deal, blew through his money she settled for (lol@ taking 130k from a billionaire, what a loser) and now she's gone back to what she does best, dancing on stage and dodging bottles and cigarette butts truck drivers throw at her.
As for the Kavanaugh thing, you've been behind the lying and discredited accusers from day 1. It's clear you thought they were going to sink his nomination, if not through committee hearings then from the FBI investigation that you supported so much. Not a word from you since it got released yesterday...why is that? Oh, because they found nothing and all her witnesses discredited what she said or couldn't verify her story.
Guy, you've done on here. The only role left for you is to propose impossibly negative scenarios with the SCOTUS and pray that the Muller 'investigation' finds a smoking gun and ties it back to the Oval Office (lol, good luck with that). 35,000 posts down the drain.
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I really think if Manchin wins he's going to flip but obviously he can't now with the election coming up. The governor of West Virginia won as a Democrat and flipped a couple weeks later. I am close to West Virginia and get their local t.v. stations and it is wall to wall political ads. It's going to be a miserable next month watching any t.v.
Problem is he's popular in his state and still has a lead on the other guy. And his voting for Kavanaugh doesn't help the case for his opponent, whose name I forgot. He seems like a nice enough man but he's just not that well known.
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Problem is he's popular in his state and still has a lead on the other guy. And his voting for Kavanaugh doesn't help the case for his opponent, whose name I forgot. He seems like a nice enough man but he's just not that well known.
Patrick Morrisey is the Republican. Manchin will probably win and that's why I'm hoping he flips after the election. McConnell has offered him a deal before but he didn't bite. After the shit he's going to get from his Dem colleagues maybe this time will be different.
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Patrick Morrisey is the Republican. Manchin will probably win and that's why I'm hoping he flips after the election. McConnell has offered him a deal before but he didn't bite. After the shit he's going to get from his Dem colleagues maybe this time will be different.
Yeah that's the guy. A Trump rally and endorsement definitely gives a boost to any candidate but as we saw with Luther Strange in Alabama, it doesn't guarantee a win. The people still choose who they like, even if it's not the President's selection.
Manchin should go Republican and Merkowski Dem.
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I would literally bet you money Roe v. Wade never gets overturned. We can have an escrow account with Ron holding the money or just a gentleman's agreement. I will not welch if I lose.
I'm open to that and there are probably online escrow type services available
We'd have to define "overturn".
I think it will get challenged over and over and get chipped away and probably wind up getting pushed back on the states
That would also be fine with me. Let all the red states outlaw it and then they can deal with the consequences. This has already happened to some extent in states where they've greatly limited access. The results are more unwanted pregnancies, more unwanted children and more cost to the states.
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yeah, god forbid white women actually keep their children and take the abortion clinic off speed dial on their iphones
while blacks, arabs and hispanics have families of 6-10 kids
ya, let's willingly commit cultural and racial genocide
the Left's been dreaming of that for 75 years
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the vote of any future nominee won't change the fact we have two conservatives who couldn't even get to 60 votes
BTW - I'm looking forward to the SCOTUS overturning Roe v Wade
It's going to more fun that watching Republican dipishits who voted for Trump suddenly wake up and realize they might lose their Obamacare
Also going to fun watching Republicans getting illegal abortions for their mistresses
And of course going to be very fun hearing the excuses from people like Collins
When Rove v. Wade was decided, 70% of American women had access to legal abortions. If it's overturned, abortion rights would be decided by the states, as they were before 1973. A few states might ban all abortions - but only a few.
Then the left would demand that companies, sports teams, etc. in those states leave or face perennial boycotts and harassment. Imagine life in those states without Starbucks, McDonald's, Holiday Inn, or Apple stores; no home NBA, NHL, or NFL teams. :'(
Recall what happened to Arizona for refusing to acknowledge MLK Day as a Federal holiday. And that was just a holiday!
Overturning Roe v. Wade would thrill conservatives and horrify the left, but not much would actually change.
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I just finished listening to Senator Collins speech. IMO she provided a very detailed and convincing explanation as to how and why she will be voting in favor of Judge Kavanaugh's appointment to the Supreme Court. I am impressed with her sincere presentation. She did and excellent job of positively acknowledging Christine Blaisey Ford's personal sacrifice and honesty.
If I lived in Maine and had voted for Senator Collins, I would be feeling good about that choice right now. If more congress people regardless of their being Republican or Democrat spoke as well as she did today, congress might regain the respect of the people of the United States.
I agree.
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When Rove v. Wade was decided, 70% of American women had access to legal abortions. If it's overturned, abortion rights would be decided by the states, as they were before 1973. A few states might ban all abortions - but only a few.
Then the left would demand that companies, sports teams, etc. in those states leave or face perennial boycotts and harassment. Imagine life in those states without Starbucks, McDonald's, Holiday Inn, or Apple stores; no home NBA, NHL, or NFL teams. :'(
Recall what happened to Arizona for refusing to acknowledge MLK Day as a Federal holiday. And that was just a holiday!
Overturning Roe v. Wade would thrill conservatives and horrify the left, but not much would actually change.
When you say "when Roe was decided" are you referring to before or after Roe v Wade that 70% of US women had access to legal abortion
Where is that figure from ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States
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When Rove v. Wade was decided, 70% of American women had access to legal abortions. If it's overturned, abortion rights would be decided by the states, as they were before 1973. A few states might ban all abortions - but only a few.
Then the left would demand that companies, sports teams, etc. in those states leave or face perennial boycotts and harassment. Imagine life in those states without Starbucks, McDonald's, Holiday Inn, or Apple stores; no home NBA, NHL, or NFL teams. :'(
Recall what happened to Arizona for refusing to acknowledge MLK Day as a Federal holiday. And that was just a holiday!
Overturning Roe v. Wade would thrill conservatives and horrify the left, but not much would actually change.
Exactly.
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In an equally impressive speech, Senator Murkowski announced she will be voting no tomorrow on Judge Kavanaugh's confirmation. Although her speech was just as impassioned as Senator Collins' speech was, hers seemed very much from the heart and an improvised personal expression of why she believes she cannot confirm the judge.
These are two Republican senators with opposing votes who are not at loggerheads with one another. What a rarity today among politicians. Both senators are outstanding people, IMO. Based on today's actions, both would have my vote were it possible.
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It is not possible to know if or when Roe v Wade will be overturned. Regardless of what happens, thoughtful and intelligent folks will plan their family's size taking whatever precautions legally available to them to do so. Long before Roe v Wade this was the case and it will continue to be so.
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It is not possible to know if or when Roe v Wade will be overturned. Regardless of what happens, thoughtful and intelligent folks will plan their family's size taking whatever precautions legally available to them to do so. Long before Roe v Wade this was the case and it will continue to be so.
Point is if Roe is overturned abortion doesn’t become outlawed. The issue gets returned to the states.
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I'm open to that and there are probably online escrow type services available
We'd have to define "overturn".
I think it will get challenged over and over and get chipped away and probably wind up getting pushed back on the states
That would also be fine with me. Let all the red states outlaw it and then they can deal with the consequences. This has already happened to some extent in states where they've greatly limited access. The results are more unwanted pregnancies, more unwanted children and more cost to the states.
Start of changing the target.
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Start of changing the target.
hey man, if you want to be part of this bet that's fine by me
If you're stupid enough to bet without specifically defining the terms that's your problem
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Point is if Roe is overturned abortion doesn’t become outlawed. The issue gets returned to the states.
that's when the fun starts
Red State Trumptards who want abortions will suddenly be screaming and asking WTF happened.
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Try to keep in mind that the Trumptard said he would only appoint judges who would overturn Roe v. Wade
Of course Trump is a proven pathological liar so maybe he was lying about that too
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Point is if Roe is overturned abortion doesn’t become outlawed. The issue gets returned to the states.
Which will have the ability to outlaw it. Not that state laws will go back to what they were, but what if they did? The price of metal coat hangers will sky rocket.
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Which will have the ability to outlaw it. Not that state laws will go back to what they were, but what if they did? The price of metal coat hangers will sky rocket.
and which states do you think will outlaw it
My guess is that it won't be California, New York, Oregon etc..
It will be the red states
Your joke about coat hangers is hilarious. I'm sure it will be even funnier when woman in red states start to die from illegal abortions.
BTW - fundies aren't going to be satisfied when it goes back to the states. They will then start the campaign to make it illegal in the entire country. It probably won't work but you'd have to be crazy to think they would be satisfied being a state issue.
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and which states do you think will outlaw it
My guess is that it won't be California, New York, Oregon etc..
It will be the red states
Your joke about coat hangers is hilarious. I'm sure it will be even funnier when woman in red states start to die from illegal abortions.
BTW - fundies aren't going to be satisfied when it goes back to the states. They will then start the campaign to make it illegal in the entire country. It probably won't work but you'd have to be crazy to think they would be satisfied being a state issue.
You sound foolish. Take me up on my bet.
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You sound foolish. Take me up on my bet.
what part of my post do you disagree with
define the bet
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When you say "when Roe was decided" are you referring to before or after Roe v Wade that 70% of US women had access to legal abortion
Where is that figure from ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States
Sorry I wasn't clear. Before Roe v. Wade 70% of US women had access to legal abortion. I don't have a direct link to the stat, but if you look at the map you pasted, the green and yellow states are on the east and west coasts, with the highest population densities.
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and which states do you think will outlaw it
My guess is that it won't be California, New York, Oregon etc..
It will be the red states
Your joke about coat hangers is hilarious. I'm sure it will be even funnier when woman in red states start to die from illegal abortions.
BTW - fundies aren't going to be satisfied when it goes back to the states. They will then start the campaign to make it illegal in the entire country. It probably won't work but you'd have to be crazy to think they would be satisfied being a state issue.
That coat hanger "joke" was not intended to be funny. Just as it's not funny when dead babies are found in dumpsters. Thank goodness I live in Oregon where the majority of people and much of the legislature acts rationally.
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Which will have the ability to outlaw it. Not that state laws will go back to what they were, but what if they did? The price of metal coat hangers will sky rocket.
That’s alarmist nonsense. I doubt most states will outlaw abortion entirely. I think by and large we would see the kinds reasonable restrictions that most Americans support.
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That’s alarmist nonsense. I doubt most states will outlaw abortion entirely. I think by and large we would see the kinds reasonable restrictions that most Americans support.
Let's hope you are right. Which restrictions on abortion do you believe are reasonable and why are they?
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Let's hope you are right. Which restrictions on abortion do you believe are reasonable and why are they?
Third trimester abortions, partial birth abortion, parental notification of minors, eugenics, etc.
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Point is if Roe is overturned abortion doesn’t become outlawed. The issue gets returned to the states.
Statists don't recognize that individual states can make their own laws so this point is lost on them.
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Statists don't recognize that individual states can make their own laws so this point is lost on them.
Actually I think they are worried that they cannot get the extremist parts of their agenda through the legislative process. That’s why they’re losing their minds over the supereme court.
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No worries if it's about metrics...Amy Coney Barrett will get 70+ when Ginsburg kicks. Ginsburg to open my 2019 dead pool.
http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/07/potential-nominee-profile-amy-coney-barrett/
The last interview I seen of her, she was slouched over with drool hanging out of her mouth.
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Third trimester abortions, partial birth abortion, parental notification of minors, eugenics, etc.
Thanks for the response. The possibilities etcetera allows is too broad for me to comment on. The other reasons you've mentioned, depend on additional circumstances.
Both my sisters were adopted at birth because their birth mothers decided they'd have the possibility of a better life. They enriched my parents lives and mine. I'm glad my parents were able to adopt them and that their birth mothers didn't abort their pregnancies. When it is at all feasible, abortion should not be an option. This is my personal opinion, which is not influenced by any religious beliefs.
Unfortunately, abortion laws are sometimes convoluted to suit specific agendas. Unfortunately, some people make bad decisions with regard to abortion.
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Thanks for the response. The possibilities etcetera allows is too broad for me to comment on. The other reasons you've mentioned, depend on additional circumstances.
Both my sisters were adopted at birth because their birth mothers decided they'd have the possibility of a better life. They enriched my parents lives and mine. I'm glad my parents were able to adopt them and that their birth mothers didn't abort their pregnancies. When it is at all feasible, abortion should not be an option. This is my personal opinion, which is not influenced by any religious beliefs.
Unfortunately, abortion laws are sometimes convoluted to suit specific agendas. Unfortunately, some people make bad decisions with regard to abortion.
Just for giggles and grins:
In the U.K. abortion is permitted up to 24 weeks. Afterward, special circumstances only.
In Russia, Denmark, Norway, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy abortion is permitted up to 12 weeks (first trimester). Afterward, special circumstances only.
In Mexico it varies by state, but there are heavy restrictions except in Mexico City, where it's allowed through the first 12 weeks.
Poland essentially bans all abortions except in special circumstances.
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All the Snowflake and Moonbat meltdowns today have been great.
I've been walking around with an erection ever since Collins' speech.
Might have to rub one out.
What a day. ;D
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Both my sisters were adopted at birth because their birth mothers decided they'd have the possibility of a better life.
That's called being lazy deadbeat whores.
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All the Snowflake and Moonbat meltdowns today have been great.
I've been walking around with an erection ever since Collins' speech.
Might have to rub one out.
What a day. ;D
Watching those girls go ape shit when Hatch blew them off in the elevator was gold!
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what part of my post do you disagree with
define the bet
I would literally bet you money Roe v. Wade never gets overturned. We can have an escrow account with Ron holding the money or just a gentleman's agreement. I will not welch if I lose.
Let me know the wager you’re comfortable with, it ain’t getting overturned.
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Collins doing damage control, IMO.
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Let me know the wager you’re comfortable with, it ain’t getting overturned.
He'll hem and haw around it, change the goals, twist some words here and there, then ignore you. :D
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Just for giggles and grins:
In the U.K. abortion is permitted up to 24 weeks. Afterward, special circumstances only.
In Russia, Denmark, Norway, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy abortion is permitted up to 12 weeks (first trimester). Afterward, special circumstances only.
In Mexico it varies by state, but there are heavy restrictions except in Mexico City, where it's allowed through the first 12 weeks.
Poland essentially bans all abortions except in special circumstances.
Interesting. Most of the European countries listed have pretty low birth rates. In the U.S. the birth rate is 1.84. Mexico's is higher.
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Interesting. Most of the European countries listed have pretty low birth rates. In the U.S. the birth rate is 1.84. Mexico's is higher.
If you parse it by race, the birthrates are only low for Asians and Whites. All other groups have positive fecundity rates. Whites are aging and their replacement rates are insufficient to sustain their economies. In a melting pot like the U.S. that's of minimal concern other than to extreme-right White supremacists but in countries with homogeneous populations like Denmark or Norway, it's a huge problem, and is the real reason they're importing immigrants from Africa and the Middle East with historically high birthrates. Put another way, whites still fuck but they don't reproduce.
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If you parse it by race, the birthrates are only low for Asians and Whites. All other groups have positive fecundity rates. Whites are aging and their replacement rates are insufficient to sustain their economies. In a melting pot like the U.S. that's of minimal concern other than to extreme-right White supremacists but in countries with homogeneous populations like Denmark or Norway, it's a huge problem, and is the real reason they're importing immigrants from Africa and the Middle East with historically high birthrates. Put another way, whites still fuck but they don't reproduce.
You'll get no argument from me.
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He'll hem and haw around it, change the goals, twist some words here and there, then ignore you. :D
I won’t be ignored!
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If you parse it by race, the birthrates are only low for Asians and Whites. All other groups have positive fecundity rates. Whites are aging and their replacement rates are insufficient to sustain their economies. In a melting pot like the U.S. that's of minimal concern other than to extreme-right White supremacists but in countries with homogeneous populations like Denmark or Norway, it's a huge problem, and is the real reason they're importing immigrants from Africa and the Middle East with historically high birthrates. Put another way, whites still fuck but they don't reproduce.
Well, it does not help that the governments of the West are trying their best to make it easy for women to abort babies - up to 24 weeks as was stated for the UK. Add in feminism, women in the work place, contraception, promotion of homosexuality and transgenders (Bruce Jenner) etc. is it any surprise the birth rate is so low? Is is of course the goal of the elite to have a low birth rate for whites. It is part of the genocidal agenda they embarked on in the 20th century and continuing now. These governments could have:
- Encouraged their citizens to have more children.
- Discouraged divorce via financial penalties for those that divorce.
- Outlawed abortions unless rape could be proven beyond reasonable doubt. If a female made a false claims of rape she should be forced to have a two babies. And if she fails to care for them she should be forced to have 2 more babies and failing that death penalty. At least she delivered 4 babies so not a huge loss if executed via impalement.
- Outlawed contraception.
- Outlawed woman in the work place.
- Outlawed feminism.
- Outlawed homsexuality.
- Outlawed gender neutrality.
- Outlawed talks of immigration.
- Severe punishment for anyone that engages in any of the outlawed behavior above. Fertile white females could receive mandatory pregnancy as punishment. Cucks and traitors - death via impalement, torture etc.
As you can see, there are lots of options to get that birth rate up. Start by publicly executing anyone that promotes abortions. Once abortion is zero then move on to outlaw feminism etc. All things that break down the family should be destroyed. Anyone standing in the way exterminated.
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At least China is trying to encourage their citizen to have more children.
Faced with falling birth rates, China urges citizens to have more babies
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/08/health/china-one-child-intl/index.html
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Interesting. Most of the European countries listed have pretty low birth rates. In the U.S. the birth rate is 1.84. Mexico's is higher.
And you are surprised by this?? lol! There is a reason the birth rates are so low: Abortion, feminism, women in the work place, promotion of homosexuality, failure to limit pornography, push for gender neutrality etc. etc. All these things will fuck with birth rates.
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And you are surprised by this?? lol! There is a reason the birth rates are so low: Abortion, feminism, women in the work place, promotion of homosexuality, failure to limit pornography, push for gender neutrality etc. etc. All these things will fuck with birth rates.
Agreed!
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And you are surprised by this?? lol! There is a reason the birth rates are so low: Abortion, feminism, women in the work place, promotion of homosexuality, failure to limit pornography, push for gender neutrality etc. etc. All these things will fuck with birth rates.
Will they? I think you're overstating a bit.
One reason that comes to mind to explain lower birth rates is that raising a child costs $233,610. ... Adding a child represents a major financial stress: The cost of raising a child today is $233,610 – excluding the cost of college – for a middle-income family, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
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Will they? I think you're overstating a bit.
One reason that comes to mind to explain lower birth rates is that raising a child costs $233,610. ... Adding a child represents a major financial stress: The cost of raising a child today is $233,610 – excluding the cost of college – for a middle-income family, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
all bullshit statistics
there's families of 10 in the ghetto and inner cities living in government housing and we pay for their clothes and food and utility bills
before birth control, people had huge families and they did just fine, nobody went broke or homeless
white women don't want kids anymore because they're lazy entitled pieces of shit with no respect for the atomic family model, unlike arabs, hispanics, blacks, asians - know what the major difference is between those groups and Whites? they're religious, and their religion tells them to breed and prosper through family unity, kind of like Christianity used to until liberals forced us to put it in the paper shredder
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all bullshit statistics
there's families of 10 in the ghetto and inner cities living in government housing and we pay for their clothes and food and utility bills
before birth control, people had huge families and they did just fine, nobody went broke or homeless
white women don't want kids anymore because they're lazy entitled pieces of shit with no respect for the atomic family model, unlike arabs, hispanics, blacks, asians - know what the major difference is between those groups and Whites? they're religious, and their religion tells them to breed and prosper through family unity, kind of like Christianity used to until liberals forced us to put it in the paper shredder
I never tallied the expense of raising my son and daughter.
You can't be saying large families living in government housing with additional subsidies is a good thing, can you?
Yes, before birth control when more children meant more free farm labor.
My late wife was a devout Catholic. She wanted five kids. We had two. We were both gainfully employed. Catholic education doesn't come cheap.
Liberals don't force people to have fewer children anymore than conservatives force people to have more. Regardless of statistics, economics, among other things, often help determine the size of families.
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I never tallied the expense of raising my son and daughter.
You can't be saying large families living in government housing with additional subsidies is a good thing, can you?
Yes, before birth control when more children meant more free farm labor.
My late wife was a devout Catholic. She wanted five kids. We had two. We were both gainfully employed. Catholic education doesn't come cheap.
Liberals don't force people to have fewer children anymore than conservatives force people to have more. Regardless of statistics, economics, among other things, often help determine the size of families.
A byproduct of leftist policies
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Intelligent (usually white or Asian) people plan for the future and try to avoid the pitfalls. With divorce laws where a man can lose his family and a large part of his income whenever his wife doesn't have "the feels" anymore are why so many white and Asian men aren't reproducing in the U.S.
Unintelligent people don't plan for the next day let alone the rest of their lives so they have unprotected sex with any skank from da club and just let society pay for it. I've worked with men who had children in several different states and didn't seem to have any care in the world. If and when the law caught up with them they just quit or went to jail.
The opening scene of Idiocracy shows this accurately.
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A byproduct of leftist policies
How's that?
Seems more like a byproduct of stupidity, irresponsible behavior and poor choices. Public housing is preferable to me over them living and shitting all over my front lawn as the ever increasing number of homeless people are doing all over the Portland Metro area. If this is liberal thinking, than I am all for it.
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How's that?
Seems more like a byproduct of stupidity, irresponsible behavior and poor choices. Public housing is preferable to me over them living and shitting all over my front lawn as the ever increasing number of homeless people are doing all over the Portland Metro area. If this is liberal thinking, than I am all for it.
Perpetuated by all the free social services which perpetuates laziness. "Back in the day" we called it Welfare. It's the give them a fish vs teaching them to fish scenario. Doubling your taxes and reducing your investments in half will still have shit on your lawn.
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How's that?
Seems more like a byproduct of stupidity, irresponsible behavior and poor choices.
Like I said, a byproduct of leftist policies.
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Like I said, a byproduct of leftist policies.
Broaden your thinking. There is a lot of territory between the far left and the far right. Reality lies somewhere between the two. Extremism is dividing the nation and will eventually bring us all down, IMO.
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How's that?
Seems more like a byproduct of stupidity, irresponsible behavior and poor choices. Public housing is preferable to me over them living and shitting all over my front lawn as the ever increasing number of homeless people are doing all over the Portland Metro area. If this is liberal thinking, than I am all for it.
Do they still have those "tent city" camps set up in Portland?
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Do they still have those "tent city" camps set up in Portland?
Yes. In fact, Portland has the moniker "Tent City, USA".
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Yes. In fact, Portland has the moniker "Tent City, USA".
Says a lot about liberal cities run by Democrat governments, doesn't it? They're always shitholes.
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Says a lot about liberal cities run by Democrat governments, doesn't it? They're always shitholes.
"Shithole" Portland is the 9th best big city in the U.S. according to Traveler.
It is #6 on USNEWS' best places to live in the U.S. in 2017
To say Portland is liberal is an understatement.
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"Shithole" Portland is the 9th best big city in the U.S. according to Traveler.
It is #2 on USNEWS' best places to live in the U.S. in 2018
uh huh
leave your ivory tower and bring a clipboard
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CwRLS8zmuHY/UulypvEjN2I/AAAAAAAABSY/T5rGcEG-SkI/s1600/r2d2.jpg)
(https://idsb.tmgrup.com.tr/2015/06/01/HaberDetay/1433168540193.jpg)
(http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/photo/homeless1jpg-0d64da101757bb45.jpg)
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=3200&bih=1220&ei=40a9W__SNMHc5gKV0bPABA&q=tenty+city+portland&oq=tenty+city+portland&gs_l=img.3...457.2766.0.2886.23.9.2.12.0.0.131.824.5j4.9.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..1.9.612...0j0i10k1j0i30k1j0i5i30k1.0.hcJ8LN-_hKE (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=3200&bih=1220&ei=40a9W__SNMHc5gKV0bPABA&q=tenty+city+portland&oq=tenty+city+portland&gs_l=img.3...457.2766.0.2886.23.9.2.12.0.0.131.824.5j4.9.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..1.9.612...0j0i10k1j0i30k1j0i5i30k1.0.hcJ8LN-_hKE)
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uh huh
leave your ivory tower and bring a clipboard
Earlier today, I responded to a post that Portland is known as "tent city, USA". Your photo isn't revealing anything I don't already know. Apparently, tent people know the best city to live in too. ;)
Your Ivory Tower analogy is hilarious and accurate. But this isn't anything folks here don't already know.
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Earlier today, I responded to a post that Portland is known as "tent city, USA". Your photo isn't revealing anything I don't already know. Apparently, tent people know the best city to live in too. ;)
How come they aren't all given an apartment to live in? Most liberals I know believe homelessness was created by Republican policies that only favor the rich. So how come Portland's budget doesn't include rent money for the housing impaired?
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How come they aren't all given an apartment to live in? Most liberals I know believe homelessness was created by Republican policies that only favor the rich. So how come Portland's budget doesn't include rent money for the housing impaired?
This may happen sooner than imagined. For the past several years, Portland City Council has approved purchasing multi unit properties to convert to affordable housing for low income folks. Newly constructed high-end apartment/condo complexes are required to have a percentage of affordable housing.
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This may happen sooner than imagined. For the past several years, Portland City Council has approved purchasing multi unit properties to convert to affordable housing for low income folks. Newly constructed high-end apartment/condo complexes are required to have a percentage of affordable housing.
I didn't say anything about affordable housing. The apartments should be free of charge, paid by those like you who can afford to subsidize them with your tax money. Why would they be forced to work if they don't want to? They're homeless. They probably can't keep jobs.
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I didn't say anything about affordable housing. The apartments should be free of charge, paid by those like you who can afford to subsidize them with your tax money. Why would they be forced to work if they don't want to? They're homeless. They probably can't keep jobs.
Not all homeless people are unemployed. If someone cannot afford to pay anything, affordable housing means free housing.
Maybe I'm not as liberal as you think. My tax dollars already help purchase the properties. Rents are based on an individual's income, the lower that is, the lessor one pays in rent. It's likely some people qualify for rent free housing.
Kenton Women's Village
(https://www.catholiccharitiesoregon.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/35163683346_a4ed251b8c_k-e1504126424691.jpg)
https://www.catholiccharitiesoregon.org/provide-shelter/kenton-womens-village/
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Not all homeless people are unemployed. If someone cannot afford to pay anything, affordable housing means free housing.
Maybe I'm not as liberal as you think. My tax dollars already help purchase the properties. Rents are based on an individual's income, the lower that is, the lessor one pays in rent. It's likely some people qualify for rent free housing.
Kenton Women's Village
(https://www.catholiccharitiesoregon.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/35163683346_a4ed251b8c_k-e1504126424691.jpg)
https://www.catholiccharitiesoregon.org/provide-shelter/kenton-womens-village/
quick changing the fucking subject: Will you take a tax hike to pay for their FREE brick & mortar heroin shacks or not? since you're liberal, the answer can only be yes
otherwise you're not a liberal
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quick changing the fucking subject: Will you take a tax hike to pay for their FREE brick & mortar heroin shacks or not? since you're liberal, the answer can only be yes
otherwise you're not a liberal
Guess what? Regardless of where you stand, your tax dollars will help fund public housing. That you don't like it makes no difference.
Kenton Women's Village is a Catholic charities project which is not limited to Portland, OR.
It is you who claims I am a liberal. Do you have absolute proof of this?
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not sure where you're getting retribution from
I'm simply saying she's getting duped (or is deluding herself or is just plain fucking stupid)
Susan Collins has stated that she thinks Kavanaugh will uphold RvW
I think she's wrong
She said the same thing about Gorsuch and she's going to be proven wrong about that as well
bump for the obvious truth of my statement
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bump for the obvious truth of my statement
Dry your tears.