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Title: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Spicy Shushi on April 14, 2006, 03:03:04 PM
Which posedown would you pay to see?  :-X
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: LuciusFox on April 14, 2006, 03:04:04 PM
 I don't see the PDI's lineup  ???
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: 240 is Back on April 14, 2006, 03:04:14 PM
You can just call them 2, 1, 3, and 4.

See, we already know where they'll place this year.  And you don't see a problem with that?

Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Adam Empire on April 14, 2006, 03:04:20 PM
Since I only see one, I guess that one.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: 240 is Back on April 14, 2006, 03:05:53 PM
One of those lineups has guts on 3 of 4 competitors.
We already know the final lineup for the O. How fun is that?

The PDI's first show isn't for 5 months.  more guys are jumping, sushi.

Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Spicy Shushi on April 14, 2006, 03:09:41 PM
The PDI's first show isn't for 5 months.  more guys are jumping, sushi.

You're right, Mr. 240.  I will have to remove Jack from the lineup as more competitors are announced.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: LifterChick on April 14, 2006, 03:12:16 PM
You're right, Mr. 240.  I will have to remove Jack from the lineup as more competitors are announced.

OUCH
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: 240 is Back on April 14, 2006, 03:13:04 PM
You're right, Mr. 240.  I will have to remove Jack from the lineup as more competitors are announced.

So honestly, Sushi, tell me...

If you had to attend a show and see
COLEMAN - CUTLER - GUSTAVO - GUNTER

Or, you could see a
PRIEST - TAYLOR - RICH JONES - MUSTAFA - ROCKEL - QUINCY T - STRYDOM - AHMAD - KING KAMALI - FLEX LEWIS - top rookies, and a wide variety of Euro guys you've never seen...

You'd still prefer 3 guys with guts in a boring show with a predictable finale?



You'd prefer the status quo?
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: HRDCOR on April 14, 2006, 03:14:56 PM
Is it just me or does my buddy Lee look the best out of all of them ???????
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: LifterChick on April 14, 2006, 03:16:54 PM
Is it just me or does my buddy Lee look the best out of all of them ???????

He's too tall in that pic.  He won't come up to Jack's armpit.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Spicy Shushi on April 14, 2006, 03:19:09 PM
Or, you could see a
PRIEST - TAYLOR - RICH JONES - MUSTAFA - ROCKEL - QUINCY T - STRYDOM - AHMAD - KING KAMALI - FLEX LEWIS - top rookies, and a wide variety of Euro guys you've never seen...

CUTLER - COLEMAN - GUNTER - BADELL - MARTINEZ any day over your lineup. We've all seen these "Euro guys" you speak of and they are in the same shrimp boat as London. Which I noticed you left out of your line up.  :-[
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Spicy Shushi on April 14, 2006, 03:22:25 PM
Is it just me or does my buddy Lee look the best out of all of them ???????

The priest that sees tomorrow doesn't have much competition to deal with.

Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Insider XYZ on April 14, 2006, 03:23:42 PM

Or, you could see a
PRIEST - TAYLOR - RICH JONES - MUSTAFA - ROCKEL - QUINCY T - STRYDOM - AHMAD - KING KAMALI - FLEX LEWIS - top rookies, and a wide variety of Euro guys you've never seen...

Although they were scouted (and heavily I might add), I can confirm 100% that King Kamali and Gary Strydom are in no way, shape, or form, nor will they be, part of the PDI. Please try to keep your posts factual.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: 240 is Back on April 14, 2006, 03:25:15 PM
CUTLER - COLEMAN - GUNTER - BADELL - MARTINEZ any day over your lineup. We've all seen these "Euro guys" you speak of and they are in the same shrimp boat as London. Which I noticed you left out of your line up.  :-[

Rhino is a top rookie, you eighth-wit.

Now seriously, though... aren't you at all tired of the guts?  Aren't you tired of the unfair judging?  Did you know that Gustavo didn't get a single comparison shot against #1 and 2 at the O?  And he WON the challenge round.

Geez... you gotta be getting a check from the IFBB not to see it's faults.  I'm the first to admit the PDI is still an incomplete thing, but its first show isn't for 5 months.  We have NO clue who will be in the top 5 at the NOC yet.  However, we all know who will be given the sandow in Oct :(
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Spicy Shushi on April 14, 2006, 03:28:54 PM
Rhino is a top rookie, you eighth-wit.
Top rookie in what, underwater basket weaving? He never was in the NPC and in the NABBA is still up for debate.

Even you admit he's not a pro. ???
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: LifterChick on April 14, 2006, 03:36:47 PM
Rhino is a top rookie, you eighth-wit.

Now seriously, though... aren't you at all tired of the guts?  Aren't you tired of the unfair judging?  Did you know that Gustavo didn't get a single comparison shot against #1 and 2 at the O?  And he WON the challenge round.

Geez... you gotta be getting a check from the IFBB not to see it's faults.  I'm the first to admit the PDI is still an incomplete thing, but its first show isn't for 5 months.  We have NO clue who will be in the top 5 at the NOC yet.  However, we all know who will be given the sandow in Oct :(

And Bob is trying to get the judging changed.  I don't think anybody will disagree the judging is screwed up in the IFBB.  Even Jim Rockell has stated this needs to be changed.

So just what kind of judging criteria is the PDI going to use?  Who are the judges?
We know the poses but not how the athletes are going to be compared with each other.

Also you have posted that PDI won’t be drug tested but the Press Releases from Wayne all stated that they would be.  Which is it?

Yes we don't know who will win the NOC, but is that it because we don't even know who is competing.
The ASC is an IFBB event and you can't tell me that contest is a foregone conclusion.

The athletes themselves say Big Ron is in his own league, so why should you disagree with the guys who actually stand beside him?

...Back to being all Bitchy
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: candidate2025 on April 14, 2006, 03:36:56 PM
Rhino is a top rookie, you eighth-wit.

Now seriously, though... aren't you at all tired of the guts?  Aren't you tired of the unfair judging?  Did you know that Gustavo didn't get a single comparison shot against #1 and 2 at the O?  And he WON the challenge round.

Geez... you gotta be getting a check from the IFBB not to see it's faults.  I'm the first to admit the PDI is still an incomplete thing, but its first show isn't for 5 months.  We have NO clue who will be in the top 5 at the NOC yet.  However, we all know who will be given the sandow in Oct :(

i like the pdi a whole lot.     but every thing yove sad in this thread is really dumb.

for one...the only guy with a gut is mustafa that you named. other than him...everyone else controls it during their poses, and loook fine.  s econd of all....your forgetting martiinez, dexter jackson, branch warren, johnnie jackson, darrem charles and tons more...      and your logic is flawed...just because we know ronnie is going to win (actually we dont know that...jay didnt take an offseason and is still getting better and beter as mr.coleman was lying on his ass for three months) doesnt mean it wont be exciting.    thats like saying...we all know michael vick is going to run all over their defense, whats the point in watching him?  because hes the best, thats why.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: candidate2025 on April 14, 2006, 03:38:34 PM
And Bob is trying to get the judging changed.  I don't think anybody will disagree the judging is screwed up in the IFBB.  Even Jim Rockell has stated this needs to be changed.

 

the only thing the ifbb needs to do is put the challenge round back in the judging. take the posing round out, and make that its own contest.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: KevinP85 on April 14, 2006, 04:05:15 PM
So honestly, Sushi, tell me...

If you had to attend a show and see
COLEMAN - CUTLER - GUSTAVO - GUNTER

Or, you could see a
PRIEST - TAYLOR - RICH JONES - MUSTAFA - ROCKEL - QUINCY T - STRYDOM - AHMAD - KING KAMALI - FLEX LEWIS - top rookies, and a wide variety of Euro guys you've never seen...



You'd still prefer 3 guys with guts in a boring show with a predictable finale?



You'd prefer the status quo?




I didn't know Flex Lewis is going to compete in the PDI.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Undermind on April 14, 2006, 04:10:18 PM
Ronnie wins because he's the best in the world (and didn't have much of a gut at the last O, by the way).  Jay is 2nd because he's 2nd best.

Lee Priest is somewhere between 6th and 10th best (and still wants to be in the O).  Vince Taylor was once great, but is no longer in the top 20.  Vinnie Galanti was judged the 5th best light-heavy in last year's pathetically weak NPC Nationals (Banks should've beat him), and 13th best light-heavy 2 years prior.  Rhino is the master's Mr. Delaware.

None of those other guys 240 mentioned are committed to PDI (and most people wouldn't care if they were).  Rockel, Mustafa and Priest are qualified for the O already, and I think at least Haidar should make it.  Flex Lewis?  No way in hell!  He'll sign with Weider the minute he wins his IFBB pro card this fall.  Anyone else in Europe who is any good is already struggling to make an impact in the IFBB, because they're just not that good.  There aren't any mystery names over there.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: gordiano on April 14, 2006, 04:15:40 PM
Which posedown would you pay to see?  :-X

We already know where your loyalties lie. Just give it up. We get the point.

We already know how the IFBB competitors in your pic would place. There is NO mystery there.

At least with PDI, we'll get something different.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 14, 2006, 04:16:38 PM
damn, gus looks better than any of them in my opinion.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: an123 on April 14, 2006, 04:22:41 PM
Neither, paying money to greased up men in thongs isn't my style.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: LifterChick on April 14, 2006, 04:24:12 PM
Neither, paying money to greased up men in thongs isn't my style.

But collecting money from greased up men in thongs is right up your alley   :o
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 14, 2006, 04:26:18 PM
So honestly, Sushi, tell me...

If you had to attend a show and see
COLEMAN - CUTLER - GUSTAVO - GUNTER

Or, you could see a
PRIEST - TAYLOR - RICH JONES - MUSTAFA - ROCKEL - QUINCY T - STRYDOM - AHMAD - KING KAMALI - FLEX LEWIS - top rookies, and a wide variety of Euro guys you've never seen...

You'd still prefer 3 guys with guts in a boring show with a predictable finale?



You'd prefer the status quo?

Yo 240, when do you think Tamali and Strydom are going to announce their allegiance to the PDI?  And why tamali?  i thought the PDI wanted to go in a new direction--away from the big gutted, tiny limbed look.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Undermind on April 14, 2006, 04:29:47 PM
At least with PDI, we'll get something different.

You'll get something different at the New York Pro, and that's a better comparison (since it's basically the old NOC).  So far, we know there will be a bunch of promising rookies (Phil Heath, Bill Wilmore, Markus Haley), some other up-and-comers like Fakhri Mubarak, a big question mark like 27-year-old Federov, and top guys like Darrem Charles and Dennis James.  And no one has a clue who will win.  Meanwhile, Priest will be heavily favored over a 50-year-old and 2 NPC rejects at the NOC (yawn)...if it actually happens.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 14, 2006, 04:33:01 PM
You'll get something different at the New York Pro, and that's a better comparison (since it's basically the old NOC).  So far, we know there will be a bunch of promising rookies (Phil Heath, Bill Wilmore, Markus Haley), some other up-and-comers like Fakhri Mubarak, a big question mark like 27-year-old Federov, and top guys like Darrem Charles and Dennis James.  And no one has a clue who will win.  Meanwhile, Priest will be heavily favored at the NOC (yawn)...if it actually happens.

I don't know if i'd describe Bill Wilmore and Marcus Haley as promising rookies . . . Wilmore is huge, and Haley can get conditioned, but neither one of them can hold a candle to Heath when it comes to sheer genetic endowment and aesthetics. Haley barely made into the pros, and i don't think he's destined to go much further.

Yo 240, when do you think Tamali and Strydom are going to announce their allegiance to the PDI?  And why tamali?  i thought the PDI wanted to go in a new direction--away from the Tamali-patented big gutted, tiny limbed look.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Insider XYZ on April 14, 2006, 04:38:01 PM
Although they were scouted (and heavily I might add), I can confirm 100% that King Kamali and Gary Strydom are in no way, shape, or form, nor will they be, part of the PDI. Please try to keep your posts factual.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: 240 is Back on April 14, 2006, 04:40:45 PM
So just what kind of judging criteria is the PDI going to use?  Who are the judges?
We know the poses but not how the athletes are going to be compared with each other.

I am so glad you asked!

'My judges will know how to judge and what they need to look for and there can't be a known association between judges and Bbers.  The judges can't be contest promoters, or own businesses that sponsor the events, or own the gym where the competitor trains.  I'm going to be constantly on the judges." - Wayne DeMilia
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: 240 is Back on April 14, 2006, 04:42:32 PM
Yo 240, when do you think Tamali and Strydom are going to announce their allegiance to the PDI?  And why tamali?  i thought the PDI wanted to go in a new direction--away from the Tamali-patented big gutted, tiny limbed look.

They're milking their contracts.  There's a reason Priest & Taylor didn't announce it until after the Aussie show? So they didn't mess up their placings.  Same with the other guys.  After each big IFBB show, you'll see another name or two jumping over.  These guys are milking their IFBB affiliation, and you can't blame them.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 14, 2006, 04:45:02 PM
So I can believe that the PDI probably is trying to recruit Strydom . . . and I don't see why he wouldn't join them.  it's not like he has n't told the Weiders to go fly a kite before.

but it makes no sense to recruit tamali. who wants to see him? I guess being a big gut mouth that stirs up some little ruckus helps. personally, i blame shawn ray for helping tamali keep his career going on by constantly paying attention to that third tier pro.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: LifterChick on April 14, 2006, 04:45:36 PM
I am so glad you asked!

'My judges will know how to judge and what they need to look for and there can't be a known association between judges and Bbers.  The judges can't be contest promoters, or own businesses that sponsor the events, or own the gym where the competitor trains.  I'm going to be constantly on the judges." - Wayne DeMilia

Yeah my first straight PDI answer on here.  I feel blessed.  Any chance on answering the other one since it reflects on you directly?

You have posted that PDI won’t be drug tested but the Press Releases from Wayne all stated that they would be.  Which is it?
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 14, 2006, 04:46:23 PM
They're milking their contracts.  There's a reason Priest & Taylor didn't announce it until after the Aussie show? So they didn't mess up their placings.  Same with the other guys.  After each big IFBB show, you'll see another name or two jumping over.  These guys are milking their IFBB affiliation, and you can't blame them.

makes sense.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: 240 is Back on April 14, 2006, 04:46:32 PM
I'd agree - except kamali is ripped to shit already for the NY Pro.  He is going to be the 1st or 2nd sharpest guy onstage.  
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 14, 2006, 04:47:58 PM
I'd agree - except kamali is ripped to shit already for the NY Pro.  He is going to be the 1st or 2nd sharpest guy onstage.  

I'll believe that when I see it . . . and even if he's ripped, he still makes Jay Cutler look like Phil heath.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: 240 is Back on April 14, 2006, 04:48:05 PM
You have posted that PDI won’t be drug tested but the Press Releases from Wayne all stated that they would be.  Which is it?

I dunno.  And honestly, I don't care either :)   I think they should be able to use anything they want out there.  Drug testing doesn't belong in the BBing, period.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: LifterChick on April 14, 2006, 04:50:32 PM
Please try to keep your posts factual.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 14, 2006, 04:52:40 PM
yes, 240, you better keep up with the strict ethical standards of the Getbig G&O board. ::)
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Karl Kox on April 14, 2006, 05:56:16 PM
Which posedown would you pay to see?  :-X

ok ya there is no comparison maybo the PDI will get some top guys soon.

They can't live off of Lee for ever. And Vince can't be around that much longer
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: phantomfan on April 14, 2006, 06:59:41 PM
You'll get something different at the New York Pro, and that's a better comparison (since it's basically the old NOC).  So far, we know there will be a bunch of promising rookies (Phil Heath, Bill Wilmore, Markus Haley), some other up-and-comers like Fakhri Mubarak, a big question mark like 27-year-old Federov, and top guys like Darrem Charles and Dennis James.  And no one has a clue who will win.  Meanwhile, Priest will be heavily favored over a 50-year-old and 2 NPC rejects at the NOC (yawn)...if it actually happens.
Yeah you'll get something different. The cheap bastard is putting the show on in Tribecca? at the same small auditorium he puts on his npc shows? That's class all the way. NOT! The NY Pro couldn't hold a candle to any NOC show in the past. Tell me there ain't no good old boy sh*t gonna go on there this year. You believe that I'll sell you the empire state building.
Title: Re: IFBB vs PDI Virtual Line up
Post by: Spicy Shushi on April 14, 2006, 07:29:23 PM
Yeah you'll get something different. The cheap bastard is putting the show on in Tribecca? at the same small auditorium he puts on his npc shows? That's class all the way. NOT!
A better venue doesn't cover up the fact that the competitors look like rhino dung. Lee could show up looking like he did at the 2003 Olympia where he placed 15th and still win.