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Title: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: the shadow on April 15, 2006, 09:23:59 AM
i don't think so.this is the first time i saw jay that shredded!!!
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Stavios on April 15, 2006, 09:26:23 AM
he was small.
Cormier beat him  >:(
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 15, 2006, 09:40:46 AM
he was the most ripped he'd ever been, but he was also 245 and flat as a pancake.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: LuciusFox on April 15, 2006, 09:42:23 AM
 Visible synthol bump in his calf in the first picture ::)
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: War-Horse on April 15, 2006, 09:49:47 AM
I have trained with Jay, here in Vegas.   Believe me he doesnt need synthol.  Hes a methodical person with everyday laid out.   Nothing is to chance.   I know alot of haters wont believe it but, he also takes most of the year off anabolics and uses for the olympia.

He has built a base of muscle that does not have to be Yo-Yo'ed up and down like Ronnie and others.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: LuciusFox on April 15, 2006, 09:52:57 AM
I have trained with Jay, here in Vegas.   Believe me he doesnt need synthol.  Hes a methodical person with everyday laid out.   Nothing is to chance.   I know alot of haters wont believe it but, he also takes most of the year off anabolics and uses for the olympia.

He has built a base of muscle that does not have to be Yo-Yo'ed up and down like Ronnie and others.

  Yeah, I know, there would be no reason to put it in his calves anyway ;D How much of the year does he take off? I know Ronnie has built a solid base, he has been a pro for quite awhile.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Scimowser on April 15, 2006, 09:55:09 AM
Jay was easily the best conditioned but he was the flattest ive ever seen him. His back was still a load of shit though, if he could get that tight and defined and come in around 265 he'll be very very hard to beat even by Ronnie
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Wombat on April 15, 2006, 09:57:06 AM
I have trained with Jay, here in Vegas.   Believe me he doesnt need synthol.  Hes a methodical person with everyday laid out.   Nothing is to chance.   I know alot of haters wont believe it but, he also takes most of the year off anabolics and uses for the olympia.

He has built a base of muscle that does not have to be Yo-Yo'ed up and down like Ronnie and others.

funny...

when he lived back east in mass, he used plenty of it...some in his circle say he used more then Flex...He he was on record to saying that he used over 100 shots per week or some shiat like that...

To look at cutlers arms and shoulders and to say he isn't using oil is to say you have no idea what this "sport" is about...
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: the shadow on April 15, 2006, 09:59:02 AM
more magnificent jay
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: War-Horse on April 15, 2006, 10:01:31 AM
funny...

when he lived back east in mass, he used plenty of it...some in his circle say he used more then Flex...He he was on record to saying that he used over 100 shots per week or some shiat like that...

To look at cutlers arms and shoulders and to say he isn't using oil is to say you have no idea what this "sport" is about...

Well.....I aint no lightweight, Bat.    Ive been competing since 1983 as a teen.   Ill ask him bout your statements, but im not judge and jury, so i dont care what the answer is. 8)
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: the shadow on April 15, 2006, 10:02:12 AM
he was the most ripped he'd ever been, but he was also 245 and flat as a pancake.
flat.so u think this is flat.!!!!!!!!think again
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: the shadow on April 15, 2006, 10:03:58 AM
more jay
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: LuciusFox on April 15, 2006, 10:04:22 AM
funny...

when he lived back east in mass, he used plenty of it...some in his circle say he used more then Flex...He he was on record to saying that he used over 100 shots per week or some shiat like that...

To look at cutlers arms and shoulders and to say he isn't using oil is to say you have no idea what this "sport" is about...

  Wow, didn't know Cutler was a synthol freak :o
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Wombat on April 15, 2006, 10:06:59 AM
Well.....I aint no lightweight, Bat.    Ive been competing since 1983 as a teen.   Ill ask him bout your statements, but im not judge and jury, so i dont care what the answer is. 8)

ask him how he didn't work a day in his life and used the hell out of a husband and wife who funded everything for him down to all his "supplements" only to ignore them later in life...Or so im told :-\
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: the shadow on April 15, 2006, 10:07:29 AM
still more jay.jays back look thick there
look at the peak of jays guns
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Stavios on April 15, 2006, 10:07:35 AM
I would put Jay in 3rd based on those pics
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: War-Horse on April 15, 2006, 10:08:15 AM
BTW,  I was 10 rows back at the Olympia last October, and Jay killed ronnie in the back shots...it was a sight to see.   Jays rhomboids were as round as 25lb plates...and ronnie had none.

Jay brought it last year and Ronnie is starting to look like a train wreck with droopy pecs, no left tricep and huge bone growths on same elbow.
Sad to see cuz i like him.   I wish he could go back to the 98 olympia and keep it, but i know the subculture demands more.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 15, 2006, 10:09:57 AM
ask him how he didn't work a day in his life and used the hell out of a husband and wife who funded everything for him down to all his "supplements" only to ignore them later in life...Or so im told :-\

don't you mean Levrone? i remember in M3 he had a couple cook all of his meals for him every day - they said it took them 3 hours every evening leading up to a contest
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Darth Muscle on April 15, 2006, 10:12:47 AM
hello Mr. O. 2001 when he should have won!
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: War-Horse on April 15, 2006, 10:13:50 AM
ask him how he didn't work a day in his life and used the hell out of a husband and wife who funded everything for him down to all his "supplements" only to ignore them later in life...Or so im told :-\

Sad to say,  But this could probably be said of all pro's. :-\
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: LuciusFox on April 15, 2006, 10:16:50 AM
BTW,  I was 10 rows back at the Olympia last October, and Jay killed ronnie in the back shots...it was a sight to see.   Jays rhomboids were as round as 25lb plates...and ronnie had none.

Jay brought it last year and Ronnie is starting to look like a train wreck with droopy pecs, no left tricep and huge bone growths on same elbow.
Sad to see cuz i like him.   I wish he could go back to the 98 olympia and keep it, but i know the subculture demands more.


  Ronnie's got a torn left lat and his lat spread is no where near its prime. His rear double biceps also looks worse. :-\
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: youandme on April 15, 2006, 10:25:27 AM
flat.so u think this is flat.!!!!!!!!think again
Yeah for Jay it was flat, but then again when he comes in flat, he comes in crisp, I think were starting to see Jay rasing the bar, and it's going to be a show come this year
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: War-Horse on April 15, 2006, 10:35:40 AM
Yeah for Jay it was flat, but then again when he comes in flat, he comes in crisp, I think were starting to see Jay rasing the bar, and it's going to be a show come this year

Agreed. 8)
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 15, 2006, 10:44:20 AM

  Ronnie's got a torn left lat and his lat spread is no where near its prime. His rear double biceps also looks worse. :-\

this post indicates that synthol has travelled through the bloodstream and reached the brain of the poster . . . or, the poster might just be a buckeye.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: War-Horse on April 15, 2006, 10:55:48 AM
this post indicates that synthol has travelled through the bloodstream and reached the brain of the poster . . . or, the poster might just be a buckeye.

LOL, "Buckeye".     Hes right tho.....Ronnies losin it fast. :'(
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 15, 2006, 10:59:20 AM
LOL, "Buckeye".     Hes right tho.....Ronnies losin it fast. :'(

Ronnie's had that "torn lat" for years, and his arms have always looked somewhat different in shape and size . . . elbow did look a little funky.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: MikeThaMachine on April 15, 2006, 11:09:15 AM
Those pics really show how much better cormier looks then cutler ;D
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Earl1972 on April 15, 2006, 11:16:58 AM
chris destroyed him at that show

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Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: LuciusFox on April 15, 2006, 11:20:32 AM
this post indicates that synthol has travelled through the bloodstream and reached the brain of the poster . . . or, the poster might just be a buckeye.

 You're from Michigan, aren't you? >:(
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 15, 2006, 11:31:13 AM
You're from Michigan, aren't you? >:(

nope, much farther south . . .
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: LuciusFox on April 15, 2006, 11:35:00 AM
nope, much farther south . . .

  Then why the Buckeye comments? You're a Miami fan, aren't you? ;D
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 15, 2006, 11:37:06 AM
everybody knows who really won that game. but, no, not an especially big miami fan.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: LuciusFox on April 15, 2006, 11:39:07 AM
everybody knows who really won that game. but, no, not an especially big miami fan.

  Yeah, I know who really won that game. O-H-I-O!! ;D
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 15, 2006, 11:40:33 AM
O-H-I-O!! ;D

if i ever have to hear that again in real life, i might have to do something drastic.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: LuciusFox on April 15, 2006, 11:42:19 AM
if i ever have to hear that again in real life, i might have to do something drastic.

  Are you a Notre Dame fan? Give me the skinny! ;D
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 15, 2006, 11:44:01 AM
here's a clue . . . my team has a 100% winning record against yours.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: MisterGX on April 15, 2006, 11:51:29 AM
Jay was easily the best conditioned but he was the flattest ive ever seen him. His back was still a load of shit though, if he could get that tight and defined and come in around 265 he'll be very very hard to beat even by Ronnie

Which is what he was at last year's Olympia.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Scimowser on April 15, 2006, 11:53:13 AM
but his back wasnt on song
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: War-Horse on April 15, 2006, 12:23:09 PM
chris destroyed him at that show

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This could be a whole other thread, but it seems that there are some guys that can stand front relaxed with the abs held in and tight.  (cormier and dex and jones fro example)  Others tend to flare the rib cage out (Jay, Ronnie etc)   And it always looks more impressive to see the abs flexin hard, I mean the eye is drawn to the abs when the lineup comes out....
Cormier could win it all if hed start out sooner instead of trying at the last minute.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: BigSexy50 on April 15, 2006, 01:26:03 PM
I am from the same area of MA as Cutler, her grew up on a farm, working for his family.  Then he lived and trained with Brue Vartanian, who owned an HVAC Co., Jay lived worked and trained with him. 

As far as all you assholes claiming synthol, it is really pathetic.  Remember when you started using AS or just started getting bigger for that matter, and everyone pointed to steroids.  Like it was this big muscle suit you put on once you started taking them or something.  It pissed you off didn't it?  They didn't know about all the hours of hard work and sacrifice (dieting).  You guys are the same now, as those pussies that pointed finger at you.  Whenever a guy makes itmprovements it must be synthol.  Most of you wouldnt know what synthol was even if you were drinking it.  Jay does not use or need synthol.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Hedgehog on April 15, 2006, 05:51:39 PM
flat.so u think this is flat.!!!!!!!!think again

If you post pics of Jay arguing he wasn't flat...

...then I suggest you pick some pics where he isn't flat as a pancake and losing to two other guys.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: War-Horse on April 15, 2006, 05:54:03 PM
If you post pics of Jay arguing he wasn't flat...

...then I suggest you pick some pics where he isn't flat as a pancake and losing to two other guys.

YIP
Zack

OooooYyyyy. ::)
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Zeratul-Dark Templar on April 15, 2006, 06:36:11 PM
BTW,  I was 10 rows back at the Olympia last October, and Jay killed ronnie in the back shots...it was a sight to see.   Jays rhomboids were as round as 25lb plates...and ronnie had none.

Jay brought it last year and Ronnie is starting to look like a train wreck with droopy pecs, no left tricep and huge bone growths on same elbow.
Sad to see cuz i like him.   I wish he could go back to the 98 olympia and keep it, but i know the subculture demands more.

Yes that must have been quite a sight to see, considering THE RHOMBOIDS ARE NOT EXTERNALLY VISIBLE.
They are buried underneath the infraspinatus and supraspinatus, the former is what you are likely referring to.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: War-Horse on April 15, 2006, 08:34:34 PM
Yes that must have been quite a sight to see, considering THE RHOMBOIDS ARE NOT EXTERNALLY VISIBLE.
They are buried underneath the infraspinatus and supraspinatus, the former is what you are likely referring to.

What are those round muscles over the shoulder blades....Im on low carbs and cant google it. :'(
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: bigkid on April 15, 2006, 09:15:33 PM
Jay did not look good at the 2004 AC. He looked like he did at the 99 ironman.  Shredded but very flat.  His arms were way down in size.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: the shadow on April 15, 2006, 11:19:22 PM
Jay did not look good at the 2004 AC. He looked like he did at the 99 ironman.  Shredded but very flat.  His arms were way down in size.
he did look good.he was just looking wider than evry 1 else even tho he did loose some size.i still think big jay smoked chris fair and square
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: LuciusFox on April 16, 2006, 12:20:53 AM
here's a clue . . . my team has a 100% winning record against yours.

  Must be Florida State.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: Zeratul-Dark Templar on April 16, 2006, 05:13:33 AM
What are those round muscles over the shoulder blades....Im on low carbs and cant google it. :'(

The infraspinatus is what you were referring to.
The rhomboids are directly underneath the trapezius, so you would have to surgically remove the portion of the trapezius in between the scapulae in order to actually see the rhomboids.
Title: Re: who said jay sucked at arnold classic 2004
Post by: rocket on April 16, 2006, 05:31:03 AM
The infraspinatus is what you were referring to.
The rhomboids are directly underneath the trapezius, so you would have to surgically remove the portion of the trapezius in between the scapulae in order to actually see the rhomboids.

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