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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SF1900 on February 23, 2019, 11:41:05 AM
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I was rethinking my percentages to succeed at bodybuilding. I underestimated "genetic response to drugs." Therefore:
Genetic response to drugs: 75%
Drug use: 20%
Training: 2.5%
Diet: 2.5%
The reason I put genetics so high is because you could take all the PEDs you want, but without good genetics, results won't be top tier, like King Ronnie!!
What you, getbig?!?!
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Rest/Recuperation?
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Rest/Recuperation?
Thank you.
Genetic response to drugs: 75%
Drug use: 20%
Training: 1.25%
Rest/Recuperation: 1.25%
Diet: 2.5%
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genetics 75%
gay4pay 25%
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2 items most bbers don't have
being patient
posing/stage presence
it is all a compound effect starting with genetics -
a kid has good genetics and sees results, so he trains more, takes more time to focus on his diet, he spends more time in the weight room then the baseball field, then he hangs out with other bbers,
his discretionary income/time go to bbing, causing more and more gains , he then competes, gets recognition... puts more time and money into the sport. buys more supplments.
it is the classic 10,000 hour rule from the book "Outliers" by Malcolm gladwell.
compound effect but it starts with good genetics - responds fast and goes more and more into the bbing year after year
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genetics 75%
gay4pay 25%
Agreed. Ask Nick Trigili or Christian Salcedo.
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Your breakdowns are a little off.
Relationships to the powerbrokers behind the scenes 75%
Genetic response to drugs 90%
Drugs 8%
Training 0.5%
Diet 1%
Rest/recovery 0.5%
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Big difference between the 15 guys to place in the Mr Olympia vs the average joe in the NPC.
You want to be on the IFBB stage? That's going to be where your genetics matter.
But you want to be joe blow "bodybuilder"? Flip the ratios because now it's basically "all drugs". You can have shit genetics, eat like shit, and rest like shit, but if you train like shit and take enough of the right drugs, you'll look like a bodybuilder.
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For natural bodybuilding success
drugs 50%
diet 30%
training 20%
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I was rethinking my percentages to succeed at bodybuilding. I underestimated "genetic response to drugs." Therefore:
Genetic response to drugs: 75%
Drug use: 20%
Training: 2.5%
Diet: 2.5%
The reason I put genetics so high is because you could take all the PEDs you want, but without good genetics, results won't be top tier, like King Ronnie!!
What you, getbig?!?!
Regarding to VINCE (not Safety Fat 1) , right diet is 80 % of muscle success ..............
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For natural bodybuilding success
drugs 50%
diet 30%
training 20%
:D
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Agreed. Ask Nick Trigili .
classic east coast bber -
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what if you hire Sev to do your prep? ... what % is a guru worth?
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;D
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I was rethinking my percentages to succeed at bodybuilding. I underestimated "genetic response to drugs." Therefore:
Genetic response to drugs: 75%
Drug use: 20%
Training: 2.5%
Diet: 2.5%
The reason I put genetics so high is because you could take all the PEDs you want, but without good genetics, results won't be top tier, like King Ronnie!!
What you, getbig?!?!
Pretty much! Be careful of coach and Illuminati getting triggered :D
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Pretty much! Be careful of coach and Illuminati getting triggered :D
Lmao!!
Wait for it......... :D :D
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He’s trolling. Why are you guys falling for it?
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He’s trolling. Why are you guys falling for it?
It’s not trolling.
Look at all the bodybuilders who stop drugs, but still train. They lose like 95% of their “muscle.”
Competitive bodybuilding is chemical warfare.
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It’s not trolling.
Look at all the bodybuilders who stop drugs, but still train. They lose like 95% of their “muscle.”
Competitive bodybuilding is chemical warfare.
Quit lying.
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Quit lying.
I’m not taking about your every day lifter.
IFBB pros are all drugs. How can’t you see this?
Look at Paul Dillet, Tom Prince, etc. They are twigs now.
Professional bodybuilding is a chemical warfare.
Do you think they always train hard like they do in their videos? Most of them are lazy lifters.
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Quit lying.
So you don’t believe drugs are one, if not the most important aspect in building a physique after genetics?
You should experiment on yourself, train and compete at 100 percent natural and see how you look
Do the whole dieting and training to a point without any drugs, zero, nothing
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I’m not taking about your every day lifter.
IFBB pros are all drugs. How can’t you see this?
Look at Paul Dillet, Tom Prince, etc. They are twigs now.
Professional bodybuilding is a chemical warfare.
Do you think they always train hard like they do in their videos? Most of them are lazy lifters.
If bbers admit to this, it takes away from the “mystique” in what is achievable and what is not :D
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So you don’t believe drugs are one, if not the most important aspect in building a physique after genetics?
You should experiment on yourself, train and compete at 100 percent natural and see how you look
Do the whole dieting and training to a point without any drugs, zero, nothing
We’ve gone over this and I’m not going I rehash it but I will say this, no matter where I train, Golds included, very few train (pros included) with hardly any intensity and it’s sad.
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2 items most bbers don't have
being patient
posing/stage presence
it is all a compound effect starting with genetics -
a kid has good genetics and sees results, so he trains more, takes more time to focus on his diet, he spends more time in the weight room then the baseball field, then he hangs out with other bbers,
his discretionary income/time go to bbing, causing more and more gains , he then competes, gets recognition... puts more time and money into the sport. buys more supplments.
it is the classic 10,000 hour rule from the book "Outliers" by Malcolm gladwell.
compound effect but it starts with good genetics - responds fast and goes more and more into the bbing year after year
And you’re the only one in this thread (and others like it) that actually get it. Why? Because you’ve actually been there.
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If bbers admit to this, it takes away from the “mystique” in what is achievable and what is not :D
This is coming from the guy who has a friend of a friend of a pro that he trains with ::)
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access and the budget to do quality pharma grade mgs and ius is also important. In the past I have seen guys placings in the olympia change depending on what was available in Venice Olympia time, I have also seen guys not pay their dealer and lose access and then use other stuff and come in water logged or not be able to get it right. Dillett Wheeler Cormier notable guys who come to mind. Pay your dealer lol
This was all relevant in the 90s, early 2000s how its changed i dont know, but in the 90s, it certainly was.
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Mustaffa Mohammad was the best example of mass monster turned pencil neck. He looked like he lost 100lbs in about a years time.
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This is coming from the guy who has a friend of a friend of a pro that he trains with ::)
Sounds like the both of us do :D
Come down to destination Dallas, I have family in Huntington Beach too, we can gladly meet up and discuss and train :D
You are just in denial
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Mustaffa Mohammed was the best example of mass monster turned pencil neck. He looked like he lost 100lbs in about a years time.
Coach deflects questions he doesn’t want to answer
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Sounds like the both of us do :D
Come down to destination Dallas, I have family in Huntington Beach too, we can gladly meet up and discuss and train :D
You are just in denial
No, both of us don’t. I’ve grown up damn near all of my life knowing pros, training with pros (such as now) for over 40 years, I’ve never been out of the loop.
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Coach deflects questions he doesn’t want to answer
I’m not deflecting shit. Mustafa was forced out because I think it was his kidneys that took a shit, of course that’s going to happen but even with that, like Royalty said took maybe a year or more to lose it. It’s what happens when you abruptly stop everything. He and his coach were stupid to use whatever protocol he was using to put him into that position.
Coaches should be held accountable
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Sounds like the both of us do :D
Come down to destination Dallas, I have family in Huntington Beach too, we can gladly meet up and discuss and train :D
You are just in denial
I missed that last part, sorry. When you’re here next hit me up. I love to talk training. The only time I’m close to Dallas is when I’m in Austin visiting my God son
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I missed that last part, sorry. When you’re here next hit me up. I love to talk training. The only time I’m close to Dallas is when I’m in Austin visiting my God son
Most def, I graduated college in Austin, but when I am back in Cali I usually visit my two favorite sushi places nobu Los Angeles and Matsuhisa in Beverly Hills. Best sushi ever next to New York in the states