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Title: rotator cuff tear
Post by: cephissus on November 25, 2019, 02:45:43 PM
i think i tore my rotator cuff, maybe. a few months ago, i suddenly got a pretty bad pain in my left shoulder. it's slowly gotten better, but even now it's still touchy and weak.

i'm wondering if anyone has fully recovered from a tear. if so, what did you do? special exercises? rest? stem cells? amputation?
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 25, 2019, 02:56:36 PM
See an orthopedic surgeon. He will order an MRI to see if it's torn. 
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: dan18 on November 25, 2019, 03:22:56 PM
See an orthopedic surgeon. He will order an MRI to see if it's torn. 
I would have to disagree amputate right away
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on November 25, 2019, 04:00:10 PM
Load 4 plates on the flat bench, do a fast negative. You'll know.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: MAXX on November 25, 2019, 04:48:55 PM
It may be just a strain, or patial tear.

Rest from gym upper body for 2-3 weeks then start light rehab. See if it gets better from that. If not you may have a complete detachment which requires surgery ofc.

I thought i tore my rotator last year. But it wasn't a complete detachment and it was able to heal and I'm fine now.

There is tons of informal vids of rotator tears on youtube btw.

Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Rambone on November 25, 2019, 05:18:00 PM
See an orthopedic surgeon. He will order an MRI to see if it's torn. 

I disagree. Avoid a surgeon at all costs and consult Getbig members instead
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 25, 2019, 06:11:58 PM
I had pain for a few years, turning door knobs and certain movements. I finally got and MRI and they said a partial labrum and rotator cuff tear. I was forced to take a few months off for something else and I am pretty sure it may have healed on its own. I may have problems later on I’m sure, but this thing feels better.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Grape Ape on November 25, 2019, 07:37:17 PM
Go to an ortho that specializes in shoulders.   Could be anything.  Best to find out.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: che on November 25, 2019, 07:44:14 PM
I disagree. Avoid a surgeon at all costs and consult Getbig members instead
I agree , getbiggers  can cure cancer
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: BB on November 25, 2019, 07:51:56 PM
Load 4 plates on the flat bench, do a fast negative. You'll know.

The "Weider Rotator Adjustment and Diagnosis Principle".
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: tommywishbone on November 25, 2019, 09:28:21 PM
Three grade-3 tears.

Total detachments of the  Supraspinatus.

Three separate surgeries.

I'm OK now but will never be 100 percent.

Recovery from RC surgery is notoriously long and painful. It is both.

PM if you wish for details. 

No homo.  Well... perhaps just a small touch of homo.

Tom
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: visualizeperfection on November 25, 2019, 11:32:15 PM
Have you considered simply upping the dose?
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: falco on November 26, 2019, 12:56:46 AM
MRI first.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Bevo on November 26, 2019, 02:18:34 AM
Load 4 plates on the flat bench, do a fast negative. You'll know.

 ;D :D

Or load 4 plates on the seated barbell behind the neck press
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Powerlift66 on November 26, 2019, 03:39:48 AM
Did it back in AUG (partial) still slowly healing, very painful, limited motion.(Up every hour at night, (pain) really disrupts sleep).
(Cant reach back to hold a squat bar).

Working around it, lifting girl-weights sucks, but these can take a long time to heal (1 year, etc).

Good luck...
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: TheShape. on November 26, 2019, 03:41:31 AM
I did the same from arm wrestling back in August, but I only feel it on bench and shoulder presses on the way down. I’m considering going to a doctor at this point because it’s bumming me out.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Axe71 on November 26, 2019, 04:07:17 AM
I was helping guys move some furniture about May last year.   My shoes slipped on this ramp and I put my arm out to stop my fall which got caught up over a rail.  As my feet went out from underneath me the shoulder was dragged way back beyond what it should have been able to do.  

The pain was excruciating.   And I could not move my arm properly for weeks.

It took me months and probably a good twelve months before I could do every exercise again.    What helped me was yoga poses.   This was the best thing to bring the movement back to where it should have been.    An MRI scan revealed that I had only bruised the bursa of the tendon.   But recovery was a long time.  

When the Doctor was going through the scan with me he could see that there had been a lot of wear from over thirty years of training.      

I made sure that I started every workout with rotator cuff exercises though.   Was not game to test heavy weights but now I am back to good weight again.  

As I was healing at first I had to use bands to hold the bar on my back for Squats.   What I picked up from Dave Draper was to take your little finger of the grip when holding the bar.   This does help.  

When working back into Dips and Chins.   Use one foot up on a chair and get your reps while helping out with one leg.    This was brilliant.    

But it will take a long time to get over the injury.   I hope it heals quickly for you.  
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Griffith on November 26, 2019, 05:35:50 AM
If not fully torn, tendons can thankfully heal by themselves, but as mentioned above, it is very slow and takes a long time, but it does eventually heal.

I injured my patella tendon, took about a year and a half to two years to heal and for the pain to go away.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: IroNat on November 26, 2019, 05:39:01 AM
I disagree. Avoid a surgeon at all costs and consult Getbig members instead

Best advices.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Griffith on November 26, 2019, 05:42:41 AM
MRI first.

Definitely.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: residue on November 26, 2019, 06:20:22 AM
are you sure it's a tear? i had a bicep tendon subluxation that plagued me for months that a few trips to a chiropractor sorted
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: JAGO on November 26, 2019, 08:15:47 AM
Clearly I am not a doctor, but I had a similar situation about 9 months ago. I read up on and used BPC-157 and everything I read about it was true. I tore my right rotor cuff and could not even shift my car into gear. I used BPC-157 twice a day for two weeks and one a day until I used the contents of the vial . . . Fucken amazing results.

J
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Griffith on November 26, 2019, 08:43:30 AM
Clearly I am not a doctor, but I had a similar situation about 9 months ago. I read up on and used BPC-157 and everything I read about it was true. I tore my right rotor cuff and could not even shift my car into gear. I used BPC-157 twice a day for two weeks and one a day until I used the contents of the vial . . . Fucken amazing results.

J

MK-677 (Nutrobal) also helps a lot, especially for tendon and joint healing.

It's basically an oral version of HGH, a secretagogue, but with less side-effects and much faster acting too.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: jpm101 on November 26, 2019, 09:15:38 AM
Didn't say if there was a discoloring , a light to heavy bruise around the shoulder area.  Which would suggest  capillaries damage and a rupture/tear. Which also may be of a serious or a not so serious nature.

If the injury seems to be getting better, than your recovery is beginning the healing progress. Would also suggest it is a muscle /tendon injury. Or even the onset of arteritis. A rotator cuff injury would produce a greater pain, even with the slightest movement (ROM) of the shoulder girdle. And a dark bruised area.

Muscle/tendon tears will require avoiding any movements linked to direct shoulder exercises, of course. Use common sense when approaching a workout session. Tears/ruptures can take a fairly amount of time for you to get back to normal. Many, many guy's have experienced this in training. And have recovered 100%.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: ponal on November 26, 2019, 09:47:28 AM
Heavy behind the neck press SS with heavy barbell upright rows. No pain no gain!
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 26, 2019, 10:32:40 AM
Heavy behind the neck press SS with heavy barbell upright rows. No pain no gain!
Fast, jerking lateral raises with the heaviest weight possible with no warm up help as well.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: ponal on November 26, 2019, 10:34:19 AM
Fast, jerking lateral raises with the heaviest weight possible with no warm up help as well.
Don’t forget forced reps for mass!
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 26, 2019, 10:41:01 AM
Don’t forget forced reps for mass!
And working the same muscles everyday.  Rest days are for pussies.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: ponal on November 26, 2019, 10:43:11 AM
And working the same muscles everyday.  Rest days are for pussies.
Yup.. You go to the same gym as me bro! No such thing as over training. Balls to Walls baby 👍
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: IroNat on November 26, 2019, 12:45:10 PM
No such thing as rotator cuff tears, just under-eating.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Rambone on November 26, 2019, 12:46:12 PM
No such thing as rotator cuff tears, just under-eating.

Want to make your rotator cuffs grow? Squat!
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on November 26, 2019, 01:33:17 PM
Want to make your rotator cuffs grow? Squat!

The only time mine hurt are when I squat. FACT!
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 26, 2019, 03:18:11 PM
Could be a torn labrum. 
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Rambone on November 26, 2019, 03:53:44 PM
The only time mine hurt are when I squat. FACT!

If being a former Flex magazine subscriber allows me the right to hand out medical advice like I think it does, I’d prescribe you to superset this...

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With this....

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3 times tonight and call me in the morning
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Tbomzisback! on November 26, 2019, 05:17:42 PM
My rotator cuff has given me problems for years. Everytime i got serious about bench/chest, it would soon thereafter flare up. But the past 6 months I've learned that regular rotator cuff exercises are a very useful tool for preventing that. Stand at the pulleys and do upward rotation, outward rotation, inward rotation, and even on your knees downward rotation. That's for prevention.

Couple months ago, before I had this down all the way, i injured it pretty bad. Took a week and a half off, and did about an hour everyday with a 5lb weight, just tons of reps, slow and controlled, right in that exact position that gave me the most pain. Worked like a charm.
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: Bevo on November 26, 2019, 05:21:16 PM
My rotator cuff has given me problems for years. Everytime i got serious about bench/chest, it would soon thereafter flare up. But the past 6 months I've learned that regular rotator cuff exercises are a very useful tool for preventing that. Stand at the pulleys and do upward rotation, outward rotation, inward rotation, and even on your knees downward rotation. That's for prevention.

Couple months ago, before I had this down all the way, i injured it pretty bad. Took a week and a half off, and did about an hour everyday with a 5lb weight, just tons of reps, slow and controlled, right in that exact position that gave me the most pain. Worked like a charm.

You keep doing excessively heavy weights
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: JAGO on November 26, 2019, 09:03:06 PM
MK-677 (Nutrobal) also helps a lot, especially for tendon and joint healing.

It's basically an oral version of HGH, a secretagogue, but with less side-effects and much faster acting too.

Really? I’ll read up on it.

Thanks
J
Title: Re: rotator cuff tear
Post by: ponal on November 27, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
Mind muscle connection bro