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Title: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: SF1900 on December 27, 2019, 11:19:13 AM
Why is Dexter struggling doing 30 pound spider curls?  ??? ???

He’s groaning like it’s a 90 pound dumbbell. I’ve seen gym rats do 35 pound dumbbells  without making a peep.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6i8ir0nkj6/?hl=en
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Fortress on December 27, 2019, 11:23:06 AM
Glass working dem angles.

It’s why he earns the big bucks.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Stephano on December 27, 2019, 11:25:47 AM
Why is Dexter struggling doing 30 pound spider curls?  ??? ???

He’s groaning like it’s a 90 pound dumbbell. I’ve seen gym rats do 35 pound dumbbells  without making a peep.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6i8ir0nkj6/?hl=en

Gym rats... hell, even total novices are capable of that.

40 years of putting time in the gym has sure given Dexter some brutal strength!   ::)
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: robcguns on December 27, 2019, 11:29:01 AM
Seems exhausted, prob end of a long workout and fully pumped.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: joswift on December 27, 2019, 01:18:04 PM
Why is Dexter struggling doing 30 pound spider curls?  ??? ???

He’s groaning like it’s a 90 pound dumbbell. I’ve seen gym rats do 35 pound dumbbells  without making a peep.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6i8ir0nkj6/?hl=en

maybe because hes working his biceps and not his traps and upper back, not to mention his legs and hips that most people, do when doing barbell curls
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 27, 2019, 01:18:57 PM
How heavy or light he trains is irrelevant at this point  …. cant wait to see how he'll look once he's completely off drugs (If he ever does come off )

Btw nose looks uncanny from that angle … ( last 3 seconds) go check



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH   LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Powerlift66 on December 27, 2019, 01:32:07 PM
Guessing he's at the end of his workout and the pain from his pump is what's fatiguing him / causing him pain, not the actual weight.
(At least I hope).

Lots of water in those arms, stretching that facia. (Juice muscles are mostly agua distilada). Ron Partlow told a story recently about losing 18 lbs. overnight.
(Pissing and sweating).

I remember reading an article I think in MuscleMag, where I think it was Rick Valente, who cold-turkey went off gear, and pissed all night long and was 20 pounds lighter the next morning.

H2O Muscles of Piss...(Deflated tissue when done).
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Bevo on December 27, 2019, 02:53:16 PM
Glass working dem angles.

It’s why he earns the big bucks.

Glass is smart

Makes a lot of money off a lot of imbeciles that will pay for anything
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 27, 2019, 04:16:47 PM
Glass is smart

Makes a lot of money off a lot of imbeciles that will pay for anything

Then call me an imbecile. He’s changed my mindset to where you don’t have to train that heavy to still grow. When we train it isn’t that much heavier than what Dexter is doing. Although when we train legs, it’s heavy. Our only disagreement is that I like to regular squat twice a month
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: joswift on December 27, 2019, 04:32:38 PM
Then call me an imbecile. He’s changed my mindset to where you don’t have to train that heavy to still grow. When we train it isn’t that much heavier than what Dexter is doing. Although when we train legs, it’s heavy. Our only disagreement is that I like to regular squat twice a month

there doesnt seem to be a wrong way or a right way, people throwing weights around haphazard and people with strict form, all with great physiques

Seems as long as you do something you will improve
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: che on December 27, 2019, 05:01:56 PM
there doesnt seem to be a wrong way or a right way, people throwing weights around haphazard and people with strict form, all with great physiques

Seems as long as you do something you will improve

Consistency is the name of the game.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 27, 2019, 05:51:21 PM
there doesnt seem to be a wrong way or a right way, people throwing weights around haphazard and people with strict form, all with great physiques

Seems as long as you do something you will improve


As you get older you find there are more wrong ways than right
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: honest on December 27, 2019, 05:57:26 PM
Charles is a good guy, I dont get the hate, he will tell you what you need to do and if your body is capable of doing it. Only person and body I really saw him struggle with was Dillet and his back, he just couldn't get around pauls delts and arms to isolate his back to improve lat width, I doubt anyone could have, I really think Nasser could have improved under Glass, similar with Strydom, but they both could never really cross the race divide. Charles is a long term hard working guy. usually the first to arrive and last to leave. Saying that I only go through once or twice a year the last decade but like the old equipment he's still there.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: honest on December 27, 2019, 05:59:04 PM
Consistency is the name of the game.

I tend to agree, injuries from heavy lifting can make you inconsistent, i honestly believe both Dorian and Ronnie could have reached their peak without destroying their bodies. Might have taken longer thats all.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 27, 2019, 06:21:47 PM
Charles is a long term hard working guy. usually the first to arrive and last to leave. Saying that I only go through once or twice a year the last decade but like the old equipment he's still there.

This is a fact. Even against Doctors orders (and everyone else’s) he was back sooner than expected after his heart attack and stroke. He had Clay training everyone while he was out but when he came back he was training people on a Cain and an eye patch. Even went to the expos and Olympia after that
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 27, 2019, 06:38:55 PM
Then call me an imbecile. He’s changed my mindset to where you don’t have to train that heavy to still grow. When we train it isn’t that much heavier than what Dexter is doing. Although when we train legs, it’s heavy. Our only disagreement is that I like to regular squat twice a month

Training heavy is great when you're in your 20's and 30's. Maybe into your 40's too. The joints have a limited function life as well as connective tissue like tendons under heavy weight. The majority of big bench press guys I know can't bench any serious weight now. Three raw 400lbs plus bench press guys are lucky if they can bench 225 on a good day due to injuries to their shoulders and elbows. Something to be said for working out for muscular endurance like Danny Padilla and host of others did. Training toward endurance exhaustion instead of strength exhaustion with volume will take you further than chasing the poundage. That's my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: pellius on December 27, 2019, 07:30:22 PM
Guessing he's at the end of his workout and the pain from his pump is what's fatiguing him / causing him pain, not the actual weight.
(At least I hope).

Lots of water in those arms, stretching that facia. (Juice muscles are mostly agua distilada). Ron Partlow told a story recently about losing 18 lbs. overnight.
(Pissing and sweating).

I remember reading an article I think in MuscleMag, where I think it was Rick Valente, who cold-turkey went off gear, and pissed all night long and was 20 pounds lighter the next morning.

H2O Muscles of Piss...(Deflated tissue when done).

That doesn't seem to make sense. On the day you stop taking all gear it's not like you're clean the next day. It takes a while for levels to drop. If your total Test is 6,000 ng/ml it will take at least a month if not more to drop to normal levels once you stop.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Bevo on December 27, 2019, 08:03:49 PM
Then call me an imbecile. He’s changed my mindset to where you don’t have to train that heavy to still grow. When we train it isn’t that much heavier than what Dexter is doing. Although when we train legs, it’s heavy. Our only disagreement is that I like to regular squat twice a month

I trained heavy my early years of training, basic compound movements like everyone else

For the past decade I’ve been using moderate weights, less rest, and more sets and reps

Honestly, it really isn’t rocket science

Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Bevo on December 27, 2019, 08:06:18 PM
there doesnt seem to be a wrong way or a right way, people throwing weights around haphazard and people with strict form, all with great physiques

Seems as long as you do something you will improve


Yep, look at branch, johnnie Jackson, guy Cisternino, etc trains like shit, throws weights around, some of the worst form known to man, and they aren’t young either

Then look at jay, Phil, dexter, etc
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 27, 2019, 08:26:38 PM
Why is Dexter struggling doing 30 pound spider curls?  ??? ???

He’s groaning like it’s a 90 pound dumbbell. I’ve seen gym rats do 35 pound dumbbells  without making a peep.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6i8ir0nkj6/?hl=en



How's that Sandow looking on your mantle?
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: pellius on December 27, 2019, 09:11:46 PM
Then call me an imbecile. He’s changed my mindset to where you don’t have to train that heavy to still grow. When we train it isn’t that much heavier than what Dexter is doing. Although when we train legs, it’s heavy. Our only disagreement is that I like to regular squat twice a month

What's the rep range Charles likes to hover around? And if not squats what's his main go to exercise, if any?
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: SirGossip on December 27, 2019, 09:43:16 PM
Training heavy is great when you're in your 20's and 30's. Maybe into your 40's too. The joints have a limited function life as well as connective tissue like tendons under heavy weight. The majority of big bench press guys I know can't bench any serious weight now. Three raw 400lbs plus bench press guys are lucky if they can bench 225 on a good day due to injuries to their shoulders and elbows. Something to be said for working out for muscular endurance like Danny Padilla and host of others did. Training toward endurance exhaustion instead of strength exhaustion with volume will take you further than chasing the poundage. That's my 2 cents.

You don't know what you are talking about. O'hearn benches 500+ incline just warming up, all natural too. Stop the hate.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: kreator on December 27, 2019, 11:47:53 PM
If he runs out of injection spots maybe he could aim for the nose. Did u see that thing in the video? Get this guy away from my cocaine!
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Powerlift66 on December 28, 2019, 03:16:24 AM
That doesn't seem to make sense. On the day you stop taking all gear it's not like you're clean the next day. It takes a while for levels to drop. If your total Test is 6,000 ng/ml it will take at least a month if not more to drop to normal levels once you stop.

The Valene one, since being in a mag, could be embellished. I believe Ron's story though of the 18 lbs. of water lost overnight sweating and non-stop pissing (a diuretic was used).
(He has before/after pic's and Aceto confirmed it). (Weekend before a show).
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: pellius on December 28, 2019, 03:54:52 AM
The Valene one, since being in a mag, could be embellished. I believe Ron's story though of the 18 lbs. of water lost overnight sweating and non-stop pissing (a diuretic was used).
(He has before/after pic's and Aceto confirmed it). (Weekend before a show).

Yes, I believe that. I'll routinely lose 10lbs over night if I sleep in (12 hours). If direutics are used the water drops fast.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 28, 2019, 09:42:52 AM
What's the rep range Charles likes to hover around? And if not squats what's his main go to exercise, if any?

With legs it’s right around 10-12. For squats he likes the V-squat. When I trained with him and Dexter we went up too 7plates. Legs on the compound movements are heavy.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Taffin on December 28, 2019, 10:34:12 AM
Guessing he's at the end of his workout and the pain from his pump is what's fatiguing him / causing him pain, not the actual weight.
(At least I hope).

Lots of water in those arms, stretching that facia. (Juice muscles are mostly agua distilada). Ron Partlow told a story recently about losing 18 lbs. overnight.
(Pissing and sweating).

I remember reading an article I think in MuscleMag, where I think it was Rick Valente, who cold-turkey went off gear, and pissed all night long and was 20 pounds lighter the next morning.

H2O Muscles of Piss...(Deflated tissue when done).


Oof!  Those numbers made my kidneys ache...  :-X  That's what?  25-30 standard cans of soda maybe..?
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 28, 2019, 12:32:40 PM
You don't know what you are talking about. O'hearn benches 500+ incline just warming up, all natural too. Stop the hate.

Exceptions to every rule. You sound like the smoker that says my grandfather smoked his whole life and lived to be 80.  Yes for the majority it's a risk to health and longevity. Heavy training catches up with the majority.  O'Hearn is a freak of nature. Very impressive with the weights he uses. Is he a natural? Only he knows for sure. If he is a natural he should do  cycle and wipe the Olympia floor and collect that check and endorsements. A lot of guys claim natural because they don't take the quantity of the pros.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Maddy on December 28, 2019, 04:58:31 PM
Why is Dexter struggling doing 30 pound spider curls?  ??? ???

He’s groaning like it’s a 90 pound dumbbell. I’ve seen gym rats do 35 pound dumbbells  without making a peep.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6i8ir0nkj6/?hl=en

sf1900
we saw your
back work out
don't criticize
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: 20inch calves on December 28, 2019, 05:14:44 PM
Then call me an imbecile. He’s changed my mindset to where you don’t have to train that heavy to still grow. When we train it isn’t that much heavier than what Dexter is doing. Although when we train legs, it’s heavy. Our only disagreement is that I like to regular squat twice a month


After years of heavy lifting when u have a base. The only way to build thick dense muscle is to get stronger to get bigger
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: falco on December 29, 2019, 05:46:21 AM
Why is Dexter struggling doing 30 pound spider curls?  ??? ???

He’s groaning like it’s a 90 pound dumbbell. I’ve seen gym rats do 35 pound dumbbells  without making a peep.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6i8ir0nkj6/?hl=en

Yet gym rats look nothing like him.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Kwon on December 29, 2019, 06:11:47 AM
sf1900
we saw your
back work out
don't criticize

Back work out = Black Entertainment Television.

Looks like you're watching through libtard blinders.

Black aggressive racist guy was on the attack, like most ANTIFA SJW libby retards.

Mindless puppets for the main stream media's fake news.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: hipolito mejia on December 30, 2019, 09:55:42 AM
I wouldn’t be surprised if Dexter follows the same path as Ronnie and Flex Wheeler. He has been luckier he hasn’t broken down yet.  I just can’t picture him drug free and doing something else. 
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: AbrahamG on December 30, 2019, 10:10:06 AM
sf1900
we saw your
back work out
don't criticize

Blasphemy.  SF's back day = Declaration of war!
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Royalty on December 30, 2019, 12:23:53 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if Dexter follows the same path as Ronnie and Flex Wheeler. He has been luckier he hasn’t broken down yet.  I just can’t picture him drug free and doing something else.  


Not too long ago Dexter had a torn bicep. That is probably why he is training lighter.


Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Marvin Martian on December 31, 2019, 06:49:26 AM
I wouldn’t be surprised if Dexter follows the same path as Ronnie and Flex Wheeler. He has been luckier he hasn’t broken down yet.  I just can’t picture him drug free and doing something else. 

Are you that fat creepy looking dude I’ve seen in some pics?  If I am mistaken I apologize. I can’t imagine why a dude who looked like that would be here.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 31, 2019, 07:08:29 AM
Dexter's nose reminds me of my favorite fruit when I was a kid ....great memories .


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH   BE YE KE   
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on December 31, 2019, 09:39:00 AM
Then call me an imbecile. He’s changed my mindset to where you don’t have to train that heavy to still grow. When we train it isn’t that much heavier than what Dexter is doing. Although when we train legs, it’s heavy. Our only disagreement is that I like to regular squat twice a month

Listening to some of these geniuses, criticizing a FIFTY-YEAR-OLD former Mr. Olympia, who STILL IS among the top 5 bodybuilders on the planet, is quite comical.

I believe you do have to train heavy but not on all exercises. And "heavy" to me is the most weight you can use, for the most reps, with the TARGET MUSCLE doing the work.

When I bench press, I do it the way Leroy Colbert and Serge Nubret did, with my hands as close to the collars as possible. Usually, I have to use a Smith machine, because the uprights on today's regular benches are wide. The old-school ones were narrow, like this:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/f1/5a/6cf15adb241e11d2fca7852d3414190b.jpg)

No more free-weight squats (at least not with poundages beyond my bodyweight) are in my routine. And my back and knees are oh-so-grateful for it. Any overhead tricep extensions (barbell or dumbbell are out). It's either dips or tricep pushdowns.

Awhile back, I was popping glucosamine pills like Skittles, because my joints were killing me. Now, after revamping my training, I haven't touched them for several months (almost a year).

Dex has the right idea. He has paid his dues with the heavy iron. He need not apologize to anyone for how he trains now. You don't go from being a bantamweight to Mr. O, without being smart with your training and diet.

Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: wes on December 31, 2019, 10:28:39 AM
When I was 61 years old I did 3 sets of 12 on flyes with the 75 pound dumbells while weighing around 168 pounds.....textbook form on a small amount of Test only........gotta be honest or my buddy oldtimer will kill me!  LOL  ;D

All my life I trained like a fucking man possessed, it was a badge of honor to torture yourself and to try to outdo others.

Looking back with new found insight I grossly overtrained but training hard was the thing I loved.... not competing though I did over 60 contests.

I loved to train balls out and when people thought I couldn`t eke out one more rep,I would squeeze out another 3 or 4.

If I had to train with Dexter I couldn`t even though it would be an honor I would feel like a wuss even though I still know better I would train my guts out................just the way we came up.

This post is dedicated to :
Ray Harris
Jeff King
Dave Mastorakis
Chris Aceto
Jim Jarvis
Matt Dufresne
Larry Tyler
Ken Knapp
Glen Clark..........and a few zillion other guys I came up with that would bury Dexter and the pansy ass fux in todays so called gyms. in the gym.

All these guys would have laughed at Dexters training and thought he was just kidding around.

I honestly would have pteferred to train like a freak rather than to look like one.................I loved to challenge myself against the iron and the clock.

Train HARD if you still remember how to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on December 31, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
When I was 61 years old I did 3 sets of 12 on flyes with the 75 pound dumbells while weighing around 168 pounds.....textbook form on a small amount of Test only........gotta be honest or my buddy oldtimer will kill me!  LOL  ;D

All my life I trained like a fucking man possessed, it was a badge of honor to torture yourself and to try to outdo others.

Looking back with new found insight I grossly overtrained but training hard was the thing I loved.... not competing though I did over 60 contests.

I loved to train balls out and when people thought I couldn`t eke out one more rep,I would squeeze out another 3 or 4.

If I had to train with Dexter I couldn`t even though it would be an honor I would feel like a wuss even though I still know better I would train my guts out................just the way we came up.

This post is dedicated to :
Ray Harris
Jeff King
Dave Mastorakis
Chris Aceto
Jim Jarvis
Matt Dufresne
Larry Tyler
Ken Knapp
Glen Clark..........and a few zillion other guys I came up with that would bury Dexter and the pansy ass fux in todays so called gyms. in the gym.

All these guys would have laughed at Dexters training and thought he was just kidding around.


I honestly would have pteferred to train like a freak rather than to look like one.................I loved to challenge myself against the iron and the clock.

Train HARD if you still remember how to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111

And Dex's argument would be, "When I walk in my house at night, look at that Sandow sitting right there. Let's walk in yours and see if you got one!" 18:51

Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Matt on December 31, 2019, 10:56:29 AM
And Dex's argument would be, "When I walk in my house at night, look at that Sandow sitting right there. Let's walk in yours and see if you got one!" 18:51

Still...it must suck to age even more for someone like Dexter than a member of the normal population.  As soon as he goes off gear, he's going to look decidedly normal...and likely with hormonal imbalances to boot.  He is the Gordie Howe of bodybuilding though.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on December 31, 2019, 10:56:54 AM
Gym rats... hell, even total novices are capable of that.

40 years of putting time in the gym has sure given Dexter some brutal strength!   ::)

As if Dex, at age 50, needs to prove how strong he is. He's paid his dues (probably longer than most of his critics have been alive, some of the same critics that turn around and bash Ronnie Coleman and Johnnie Jackson for "ego lifting" and using too much weight).

Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on December 31, 2019, 11:00:13 AM
Still...it must suck to age even more for someone like Dexter than a member of the normal population.  As soon as he goes off gear, he's going to look decidedly normal...and likely with hormonal imbalances to boot.  He is the Gordie Howe of bodybuilding though.

He won't look decidedly normal, at all. This idea that Dex is suddenly going to turn into Chris Rock's "Pookie" character from "New Jack City", once he "goes off gear" is laughable.

Besides, he'll be retired, with multiple titles under his belt, when he does ride off into the sunset. Plus, unlike most of us, he'll be able to say that (for at least a year) he was the best in the world at what he did (when it comes to bodybuilding).
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: wes on December 31, 2019, 01:16:57 PM
And Dex's argument would be, "When I walk in my house at night, look at that Sandow sitting right there. Let's walk in yours and see if you got one!" 18:51


I totally agree that`s why I said would rather train like a freak than to look like one.

Dex is an awesome bodybuilder but I`d crush him in the gym using poundages respective to our bodyweights.

I always said that I could keep up or surpass anyone in the gym and this has always come to fruition.

I`d keep up with Ronnie in his prime ,only instead of 800 pound deadlifts,I`d be forced to use 700 pounds due to my lighter bodyweight and sparrow like bone structure.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Matt on December 31, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
He won't look decidedly normal, at all. This idea that Dex is suddenly going to turn into Chris Rock's "Pookie" character from "New Jack City", once he "goes off gear" is laughable.

Besides, he'll be retired, with multiple titles under his belt, when he does ride off into the sunset. Plus, unlike most of us, he'll be able to say that (for at least a year) he was the best in the world at what he did (when it comes to bodybuilding).

I think Dexter will be fairly thin off gear.  He's only maybe 215-lb juiced to the max...I can't see him being more than 165-lb off gear.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Royalty on December 31, 2019, 03:30:25 PM
I totally agree that`s why I said would rather train like a freak than to look like one.

Dex is an awesome bodybuilder but I`d crush him in the gym using poundages respective to our bodyweights.

I always said that I could keep up or surpass anyone in the gym and this has always come to fruition.

I`d keep up with Ronnie in his prime ,only instead of 800 pound deadlifts,I`d be forced to use 700 pounds due to my lighter bodyweight and sparrow like bone structure.

Im not sure about now, but Dexter used to bench 365 for 8 reps or so.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Matt on December 31, 2019, 03:33:48 PM
Im not sure about now, but Dexter used to bench 365 for 8 reps or so.

I think in his MuscleTime DVD, he actually bench pressed 405 for reps.  Although I can't recall how many reps.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: joswift on December 31, 2019, 03:36:09 PM
I take pride in using light weights as much as possible, I try and make every set count, never waste a set, and try and make the muscle work as much as possible through the set without trying to hit rep goals by using ancillary muscles to get the job done
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Royalty on December 31, 2019, 03:50:12 PM
I think in his MuscleTime DVD, he actually bench pressed 405 for reps.  Although I can't recall how many reps.

I don’t doubt that at all.

He was benching 365 in a BFTO DVD... about 2 weeks before the Olympia in 2004
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: wes on December 31, 2019, 03:52:06 PM
Im not sure about now, but Dexter used to bench 365 for 8 reps or so.
A mere pittance for one such as I  !!

No one even mentioned my 700 pound deadlifts.......I feel slighted.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Bevo on December 31, 2019, 04:10:59 PM
Listening to some of these geniuses, criticizing a FIFTY-YEAR-OLD former Mr. Olympia, who STILL IS among the top 5 bodybuilders on the planet, is quite comical.

I believe you do have to train heavy but not on all exercises. And "heavy" to me is the most weight you can use, for the most reps, with the TARGET MUSCLE doing the work.

When I bench press, I do it the way Leroy Colbert and Serge Nubret did, with my hands as close to the collars as possible. Usually, I have to use a Smith machine, because the uprights on today's regular benches are wide. The old-school ones were narrow, like this:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/f1/5a/6cf15adb241e11d2fca7852d3414190b.jpg)

No more free-weight squats (at least not with poundages beyond my bodyweight) are in my routine. And my back and knees are oh-so-grateful for it. Any overhead tricep extensions (barbell or dumbbell are out). It's either dips or tricep pushdowns.

Awhile back, I was popping glucosamine pills like Skittles, because my joints were killing me. Now, after revamping my training, I haven't touched them for several months (almost a year).

Dex has the right idea. He has paid his dues with the heavy iron. He need not apologize to anyone for how he trains now. You don't go from being a bantamweight to Mr. O, without being smart with your training and diet.



Aren’t you the one that believed mike Ashley was natural?
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Matt on December 31, 2019, 04:12:25 PM
Aren’t you the one that believed mike Ashley was natural?

Yes.  He also doesn't believe in evolution.  He called it "From goo to you, by way of the zoo."
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: deadz on December 31, 2019, 04:38:36 PM
Gym rats... hell, even total novices are capable of that.

40 years of putting time in the gym has sure given Dexter some brutal strength!   ::)
Bodybuilding IS NOT about strength.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on December 31, 2019, 04:44:11 PM
Aren’t you the one that believed mike Ashley was natural?

Yes.  He also doesn't believe in evolution.  He called it "From goo to you, by way of the zoo."

I'm sorry! This has WHAT to do exactly with Dexter Jackson again?

Funny how when you can't make a point about a particular subject, you deflect to something else totally unrelated.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on December 31, 2019, 04:48:19 PM
I don’t doubt that at all.

He was benching 365 in a BFTO DVD... about 2 weeks before the Olympia in 2004


I have the BFTO tape from 2000 in which he reps with with 405. Marcus Haley was his training partner in that one.


I think Dexter will be fairly thin off gear.  He's only maybe 215-lb juiced to the max...I can't see him being more than 165-lb off gear.

215? He turned pro as a light-heavyweight at the top of the weight class (198 lbs). It's safe to say he's put on WAAAAAY more than 17 lbs in the 20 years since he's been a pro.

Even when he stops the anabolics, Jackson will be smaller; but he'll hardly be small.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Matt on December 31, 2019, 06:56:47 PM
I'm sorry! This has WHAT to do exactly with Dexter Jackson again?

Funny how when you can't make a point about a particular subject, you deflect to something else totally unrelated.

 ;D ;D ;D

Bevo and I prefer discrediting you in this case without addressing your actual argument.

PS - All Mega Mass 2000:
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on December 31, 2019, 11:32:13 PM
;D ;D ;D

Bevo and I prefer discrediting you in this case without addressing your actual argument.

PS - All Mega Mass 2000:

Too bad you've failed miserably at it, as Mike Ashley has JACK SQUAT to do with the issue here about Dexter Jackson, let alone your claim that Jackson is going to turn into an Ethiopian famine victim once he retires and foregoes the anabolics.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Matt on December 31, 2019, 11:40:27 PM
Too bad you've failed miserably at it, as Mike Ashley has JACK SQUAT to do with the issue here about Dexter Jackson, let alone your claim that Jackson is going to turn into an Ethiopian famine victim once he retires and foregoes the anabolics.

Now who is totally misrepresenting the views of a fellow classic Getbigger™?

I said nothing of the sort!

I implied that Dexter would turn into two Ethiopian famine victims upon retirement.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Royalty on January 01, 2020, 08:59:36 AM
We should set up a bench press competition between Wes and Dexter.

Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: wes on January 01, 2020, 09:17:27 AM
We should set up a bench press competition between Wes and Dexter.


In the immortal words of Donny (who I will later add to the where the fuck did they go thread)

SET IT UP

#whitepantyfetish
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Bevo on January 01, 2020, 09:25:24 AM
I have the BFTO tape from 2000 in which he reps with with 405. Marcus Haley was his training partner in that one.


215? He turned pro as a light-heavyweight at the top of the weight class (198 lbs). It's safe to say he's put on WAAAAAY more than 17 lbs in the 20 years since he's been a pro.

Even when he stops the anabolics, Jackson will be smaller; but he'll hardly be small.

 

His bone structure and height is of a small man, like majority of bbers, dexter is 5’6

Yes, if he was off EVERYTHING, he will def be way under 200 if he’s in single digit bf levels, that’s nothing to be ashamed about either, he’s built all his muscles, like all pro bbers through steroids, and genetic response

Ask yourself what 5’6 man is truly big if he’s actually natural, need to take into account he’s also 50
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: wes on January 01, 2020, 09:30:59 AM
If I`m not mistaken Dex started out competing as a bantam or lightweight of couse he was prbably a teen or just out of his teens at the time.

one of the best to ever compete in any era !!
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: joswift on January 01, 2020, 10:51:58 AM
off everything he will drop back to around 170lb, if lean thats still pretty good for someone 5'6
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on January 01, 2020, 12:35:38 PM
off everything he will drop back to around 170lb, if lean thats still pretty good for someone 5'6

I doubt that. If he eats halfway decently and trains well, he'd be more in the low 200s.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: joswift on January 01, 2020, 12:38:42 PM
I doubt that. If he eats halfway decently and trains well, he'd be more in the low 200s.

no he wont, hes 5'6 a 50 year old guy at 200lb lean just isnt happening, he may stay at 200 at around 15% plus
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Royalty on January 01, 2020, 12:44:43 PM
I doubt that. If he eats halfway decently and trains well, he'd be more in the low 200s.

A few years ago Dexter said that when he retires he will drop down to 180
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Matt on January 01, 2020, 12:53:58 PM
no he wont, hes 5'6 a 50 year old guy at 200lb lean just isnt happening, he may stay at 200 at around 15% plus

Good estimation.  Agreed.  Even an honest 15% is pretty lean...I could see him maintaining a decent physique, but he would be quite thin...he just has a naturally thing structure [I'm not insulting him - better that then to have a natural tendency towards putting on weight, IMO].

Even 200-lb at 15% body fat would be a very muscular physique for 5'6.5" and 50+ years of age.  I'm not insulting Dexter, I'm just saying.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: tres_taco_combo on January 01, 2020, 01:42:05 PM
I trained heavy my early years of training, basic compound movements like everyone else

For the past decade I’ve been using moderate weights, less rest, and more sets and reps

Honestly, it really isn’t rocket science



yep

 “Train to stimulate, not annihilate”  Lee Haney


when you have youth on your side you can be semi wreckless int the weight room

Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on January 01, 2020, 01:42:22 PM
no he wont, hes 5'6 a 50 year old guy at 200lb lean just isnt happening, he may stay at 200 at around 15% plus

Why would he need to be "lean" (as in single-digit body fat), when he retires?

200 lbs at 15% bodyfat is a big, by normal standards, anyway.

He's been one of the best bodybuilders for over 20 years (and THE BEST BODYBUILDER IN THE WORLD for one year).

Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: pamith on January 01, 2020, 01:46:57 PM
He's strong for his age
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on January 01, 2020, 01:53:04 PM
yep

 “Train to stimulate, not annihilate”  Lee Haney


when you have youth on your side you can be semi wreckless int the weight room



Indeed. That's why I stated earlier that, while I pile on the poundage on certain exercises, I refrain from doing such on other exercise or I avoid them altogether.

- No heavy tricep extensions (barbell or dumbbell)
- No heavy squats
- No heavy flat bench presses (when I do them, it's "Leroy" or "Serge" style, as the last exercise for chest).
- No behind-the-neck shoulder presses (I didn't do them a lot, anyway; plus doing laterals first eliminates the need for BTN presses).

My joints and lower back are all the happier for it.  ;D

Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: joswift on January 01, 2020, 02:49:55 PM
Why would he need to be "lean" (as in single-digit body fat), when he retires?

200 lbs at 15% bodyfat is a big, by normal standards, anyway.

He's been one of the best bodybuilders for over 20 years (and THE BEST BODYBUILDER IN THE WORLD for one year).



he doesnt, but hes not weighing over 200lb unless hes podge...and trust me, with his shirt off at 200lb and 5ft 6 at 15% he wont look great
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Royalty on January 01, 2020, 02:53:51 PM
Imagine if bodybuilding standards keeps declining. That would allow Dexter to stay competitive well into his 70’s
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: MCWAY on January 01, 2020, 03:00:38 PM
he doesnt, but hes not weighing over 200lb unless hes podge...and trust me, with his shirt off at 200lb and 5ft 6 at 15% he wont look great


By normal standards, he'll look great. We're not talking pro (top amateur) bodybuilder standards.

Again, this whole narrative that Dexter will turn into a twig when he retires is patently absurd. He'll be smaller but still look terrific, as long as he trains and eats halfway decently. This is a dude who didn't have to do cardio to get ripped until his mid-40s.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: joswift on January 01, 2020, 03:03:15 PM
By normal standards, he'll look great. We're not talking pro (top amateur) bodybuilder standards.

Again, this whole narrative that Dexter will turn into a twig when he retires is patently absurd. He'll be smaller but still look terrific, as long as he trains and eats halfway decently. This is a dude who didn't have to do cardio to get ripped until his mid-40s.

no one would have to do cardio if they ate less calories...
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: AbrahamG on January 01, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
If Dexter were to stay on trt, eat healthy and stay in the gym, he'll look great for the rest of his life.
Title: Re: Dexter Jackson...
Post by: Taffin on January 01, 2020, 05:28:16 PM
If Dexter were to stay on trt, eat healthy and stay in the gym, he'll look great for the rest of his life.

So you're saying Deathpool 2025?   ;D