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Seriously. Loved ones. Sitting him down and telling him that’s it. Gym is over. He’s achieved all he can. And then get him into exercise such as water therapy, etc walking, light regular stretching etc.
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Same with Dallas by the way. Why did not one single person insist and literally drag his ass to the doctor after his heart attack on stage. The most basic of tests would have revealed his issues with blood pressure, blocked arteries, massive heart enlargement, tumors etc. But yet not one single “friend” ever did so.
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are his parents still alive? his wife benefits financially from the continued vids and Instagram content, which generate product sales, so she isn't going to stop him. who is really left?
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Seriously. Loved ones. Sitting him down and telling him that’s it. Gym is over. He’s achieved all he can. And then get him into exercise such as water therapy, etc walking, light regular stretching etc.
The parents, loved ones prob encouraged a lot of it, especially when the son is “famous” and making a name for himself, certainly doesn’t help but I’ve seen this happen time and time again growing up playing sports where parents fully support what their kids are doing even if it’s extreme, to an extent there’s def nothing wrong with this but there’s def a limit where you take a step back
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are his parents still alive? his wife benefits financially from the continued vids and Instagram content, which generate product sales, so she isn't going to stop him. who is really left?
Maybe we should call on Big J Cutler to do it. Or some other person he might really respect that can speak for the bodybuilding community.
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Maybe we should call on Big J Cutler to do it. Or some other person he might really respect that can speak for the bodybuilding community.
The only one who could do it is Brian Dobson, lol.
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Meanwhile Jay Cutler is so much better shape health wise. Maybe volume is the way to go. Then again Yates said if the didn't take it to the limit he wouldn't have been Mr. Olympia.
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Coach is 5'6" and ballooned himself up to 250 taking his drugs and over-eating.
Why doesn't someone here stage an intervention for him?
Why doesn't his wife do something?
Same thing. Coach even already had a cardiac event in the recent past.
Even so, he gained 50 pounds and continues on his plastic trophy quest.
Why do other members take all kinds of drugs to look muscular and then take other drugs to correct the problems caused by same?
And these people don't even compete. It's just for ego.
Should we intervene for them?
It's insanity really. They got a death wish.
Go ahead and kill yourself. It's a free country.
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Meanwhile Jay Cutler is so much better shape health wise. Maybe volume is the way to go. Then again Yates said if the didn't take it to the limit he wouldn't have been Mr. Olympia.
Intensity to build, volume to maintain ;)
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Pretty soon he’ll be confined to a wheelchair full time and won’t be able to train. He’s a complete idiot for doing all this to himself. Dont feel sorry for him at all.
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Meanwhile Jay Cutler is so much better shape health wise. Maybe volume is the way to go. Then again Yates said if the didn't take it to the limit he wouldn't have been Mr. Olympia.
False
He made his changes by altering his cycles, he admitted to this that Kevin and flex helped him, his training style didn’t change one bit since the 80’s
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Coach is 5'6" and ballooned himself up to 250 taking his drugs and over-eating.
Why doesn't someone here stage an intervention for him?
Why doesn't his wife do something?
Same thing. Coach even already had a cardiac event in the recent past.
Even so, he gained 50 pounds and continues on his plastic trophy quest.
Why do other members take all kinds of drugs to look muscular and then take other drugs to correct the problems caused by same?
And these people don't even compete. It's just for ego.
Should we intervene for them?
It's insanity really. They got a death wish.
Go ahead and kill yourself. It's a free country.
It’s clearly something wrong in the head with certain individuals
A “sport” with diminishing returns
It’s one thing to make millions on a real sport or win the Mr O title in bbing
It’s another to do something with absolutely nothing in return but because “it makes me feel good” is retarded beyond belief. They aren’t doing anything out of the ordinary that’s impressive or “living on the edge” like some might call it, more in the line of addicts and addictive personality than anything else
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Ronnie is much too simple to receive an intervention. And simple is a nice way of saying stupid.
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Coach is 5'6" and ballooned himself up to 250 taking his drugs and over-eating.
Why doesn't someone here stage an intervention for him?
Why doesn't his wife do something?
Same thing. Coach even already had a cardiac event in the recent past.
Even so, he gained 50 pounds and continues on his plastic trophy quest.
Why do other members take all kinds of drugs to look muscular and then take other drugs to correct the problems caused by same?
And these people don't even compete. It's just for ego.
Should we intervene for them?
It's insanity really. They got a death wish.
Go ahead and kill yourself. It's a free country.
You forgot to mention that he had a wicked case of the hiccups.
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Pretty soon he’ll be confined to a wheelchair full time and won’t be able to train. He’s a complete idiot for doing all this to himself. Dont feel sorry for him at all.
This. He knew the consequences and even as his body was failing he continued to push through because in his head "HE'S A WARRIOR ROAAAARRRR!!! ::)
Ronnie cares more about his image than his family.
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most people don't care about other peoples problems until its too late, then they wish they could've said this or done that to help them
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most people don't care about other peoples problems until its too late, then they wish they could've said this or done that to help them
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Sad but true, Earl.
There was an interview with Prince's sister where she said she wasn't sad that he died, but relieved. That she had been waiting for him to die of an opiate overdose for two years prior to the actual time of his death, and that it brought her relief. I suppose the anxiety of not knowing when it would happen was eating away at her.
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The only one who could do it is Brian Dobson, lol.
This is probably true^ but Brian never would. They both come from the same mentality....
It's too late now anyway, he will continue to degenerate even if he starts to do all the right things, there is far to much damage. Maybe if he changed his lifestyle around 2013 when he could still walk okay, he could have had a more normal life.
I wish him the best and hope he improves, but we have all seen that he is destroying himself and that the reality is a wheelchair will be needed, most probably sooner rather than later.
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most people don't care about other peoples problems until its too late, then they wish they could've said this or done that to help them
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Yes that’s my point.
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Sad but true, Earl.
There was an interview with Prince's sister where she said she wasn't sad that he died, but relieved. That she had been waiting for him to die of an opiate overdose for two years prior to the actual time of his death, and that it brought her relief. I suppose the anxiety of not knowing when it would happen was eating away at her.
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I'm sure getting a piece of his estate had nothing to do with it.
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I'm sure getting a piece of his estate had nothing to do with it.
Yeah she would've gotten a real nice chunk of change...
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He could achieve better results training properly and more safe, it's mental issue.. I've been bigger and smaller, depending on circumstances, up to a level of head turning monster, down to a very lean athletic look when people would comment how "skinny" I've became (yeah, right) clothes on, and I couldnt care less, as long as I can go to the gym to perform my routine, bigger or smaller (and I love being bigger, no need to lie here), but feeling fit and healthy, is it so difficult? Probably... when all you have is your muscles to show off
Speaking of "friends", don't overestimate that word. Many times friends are silently waiting for a downfall just to feel at least a little bit better about themselves, that's fucked up, but if you think that most people are able to rise above primitive instincts like that, you are most probably wrong..
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most people don't care about other peoples problems until its too late, then they wish they could've said this or done that to help them
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I bet the HR department feels that way about that woman at work who stuck a fork up your ass!
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Seriously. Loved ones. Sitting him down and telling him that’s it. Gym is over. He’s achieved all he can. And then get him into exercise such as water therapy, etc walking, light regular stretching etc.
He believes he is on his way back to the Mr. O stage soon, just a few more surgeries then he can really start putting that size back on.
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Seriously. Loved ones. Sitting him down and telling him that’s it. Gym is over. He’s achieved all he can. And then get him into exercise such as water therapy, etc walking, light regular stretching etc.
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I see ronnie has just come out of another surgery...
And is talking about leg pressing to make his legs bigger... Got his priorities straight the guy can't walk, can't feel his legs but wants to leg press for bigger legs FFS....
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I don't even know how you could have an intervention anymore-at least about painkillers. Literally every disc but one in his spine is herniated. He literally never should have touched a weight again after he lost to cutler...
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At this stage he is likely just fucking his body up on purpose to get meds to continue feeding his opioid addiction
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Nothing but a peanut, light weight baby!
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I bet the HR department feels that way about that woman at work who stuck a fork up your ass!
HR is annoyed by any complaints they get, it's just more work for them
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Meanwhile Jay Cutler is so much better shape health wise. Maybe volume is the way to go. Then again Yates said if the didn't take it to the limit he wouldn't have been Mr. Olympia.
Dorian didn't really gain much muscle between 1993 and 1997 anyway. He could have lowered the weight a little and done the movements slower and restricted the risk of injuries to a much much lower level. It would have made zero impact on his physique from a muscle gain or maintenance point of view.
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Dorian didn't really gain much muscle between 1993 and 1997 anyway. He could have lowered the weight a little and done the movements slower and restricted the risk of injuries to a much much lower level. It would have made zero impact on his physique from a muscle gain or maintenance point of view.
Probably true, but that mind set would have never got him to where he was in 93 ..
It's the same high intensity that he used to build his physique that destroyed it, you cannot have one without the other.
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Dorian didn't really gain much muscle between 1993 and 1997 anyway. He could have lowered the weight a little and done the movements slower and restricted the risk of injuries to a much much lower level. It would have made zero impact on his physique from a muscle gain or maintenance point of view.
and balls to the wall training whilst in a deficit isnbt going to make all that much difference, risk reward ratio way too big
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Probably true, but that mind set would have never got him to where he was in 93 ..
It's the same high intensity that he used to build his physique that destroyed it, you cannot have one without the other.
It's the same mindset. You are still going to failure. You are limiting the risk using less weights and concentrating on the muscle. I did it many years ago and totally eliminated any nagging pains I had. If I wanted to go heavier I can and do sometimes.
He's still eating the same, taking the same drugs, resting the same. Where's the muscle going?
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Probably true, but that mind set would have never got him to where he was in 93 ..
It's the same high intensity that he used to build his physique that destroyed it, you cannot have one without the other.
Tell that to Phil..... he’s won, what? 7 titles, same for jay with 4, and Haney with 8
That whole hardcore training with extreme heavy weights is all BS
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Tell that to Phil..... he’s won, what? 7 titles, same for jay with 4, and Haney with 8
That whole hardcore training with extreme heavy weights is all BS
Tell that to Ronnie, Dorian etc... Anybody can say that the inverse applies ::)
When you're genetically gifted and taking boatloads of drugs, high volume and low intensity (versus the inverse) doesn't seem to matter too much. ;)
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It's the same mindset. You are still going to failure. You are limiting the risk using less weights and concentrating on the muscle. I did it many years ago and totally eliminated any nagging pains I had. If I wanted to go heavier I can and do sometimes.
He's still eating the same, taking the same drugs, resting the same. Where's the muscle going?
Training with 8-12 reps puts you in the 60% of max range. Much less joint stress.
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Tell that to Ronnie, Dorian etc... Anybody can say that the inverse applies ::)
When you're genetically gifted and taking boatloads of drugs, high volume and low intensity (versus the inverse) doesn't seem to matter too much. ;)
So, it doesn’t matter then? You just proved my point
That’s what I meant, the whole heavy training hardcore, branch, Ronnie style doesn’t matter, you can get the same results training like Phil, haney, dexter, jay........
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I said that a few days ago. Unfortunately I don't think anyone near him really actually gives a fuck. His wife probably encourages him juicing/lifting heavy because it brings more cash through supplement sales and sponsors :-\
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As everyone might know, the minute you mention he lifted far too heavy you just get attacked by immature trolls and it's too bad as Ronnie was a great guy he
could have achieved the SAME victories and stayed out of a wheelchair if he had just watched himself...
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So, it doesn’t matter then? You just proved my point
That’s what I meant, the whole heavy training hardcore, branch, Ronnie style doesn’t matter, you can get the same results training like Phil, haney, dexter, jay........
Yes, I agree with your point. It goes both ways, also suggesting that you don't need to train with high volume like Phil, Jay etc either as both seem to work. Lots of people are die-hard for high-volume, especially naturals for some reason.
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Tell that to Phil..... he’s won, what? 7 titles, same for jay with 4, and Haney with 8
That whole hardcore training with extreme heavy weights is all BS
Dorian and ronnie BELIEVED that style of training was what they needed to do to win, whether that was actually true is another thing.
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So, it doesn’t matter then? You just proved my point
That’s what I meant, the whole heavy training hardcore, branch, Ronnie style doesn’t matter, you can get the same results training like Phil, haney, dexter, jay........
You also cannot rule out the differences between individuals. There are differences in muscle fiber ratios fast to slow twitch, differences in the production of enzymes that drive the energy systems, so you can't just say that anyone will look the same using either method.
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Dorian and ronnie BELIEVED that style of training was what they needed to do to win, whether that was actually true is another thing.
No, I actually believe they just enjoyed training that way. Most of us do, and not everyone is crippled.
Training for me is about going heavy, to failure. I just simply cut out exercises over the years that produced injuries consistently.
Maybe Ronnie doesn't think like that.
But going to a gym to just do some lighter slow reps is not the same fun as going for PB lifts, although I use good form too.
Ronnie obviously just doesn't have the mindset to stop swinging iron around, or the common sense. Im not sure what one.
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No, I actually believe they just enjoyed training that way. Most of us do, and not everyone is crippled.
Training for me is about going heavy, to failure. I just simply cut out exercises over the years that produced injuries consistently.
Maybe Ronnie doesn't think like that.
But going to a gym to just do some lighter slow reps is not the same fun as going for PB lifts, although I use good form too.
Ronnie obviously just doesn't have the mindset to stop swinging iron around, or the common sense. Im not sure what one.
This...for most makes sense do what works and once in a while change it up go heavier for few weeks less sets low reps then go back to the norm,so what if nothing changes build wise at least you try a different approach .as for Ronnie stop with the old quotes already and just pump safely and keep some muscle if he can.weird his reign seemed like it was yesterday time flies and as everyone says it’s a temporary muscle suit esp at that size.
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Meanwhile Jay Cutler is so much better shape health wise. Maybe volume is the way to go. Then again Yates said if the didn't take it to the limit he wouldn't have been Mr. Olympia.
Yeah, he seems to be aging well, unlike some other famous 'lifters'....