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Title: Love lost for bob
Post by: HRDCOR on April 17, 2006, 07:56:21 PM
I have never seen so much love lost for a person who has actually succeeded before !!!
Bob actually won a show and he has practically had a new arsehole ripped out for him !!!

There are some prospectives one should think about before they tear into bob any more,

1) If the show was fixed or the judges adhered to give bob 1st placing due to his involvement in the sport I am sure it was not at bobs request, in fact i bet he entered the show just like every one else did , and that he got in the best shape he could at the time and left the rest to the judges .

2) if bobs sponsors had anything to do with bobs win , i bet bob was totally unaware of it , and would be horrified to know that he was gifted a place rather than have earned it !

3) At every god damm show there is ALWAYS a elemant of disapproval of a placings and always the complaint of the judges being blind or the show was rigged or the athlete didint deserve his spot , ALWAYS, and this show is no different

Bob won , end of story really , and the only influence I am sure bob would have liked to have on his winning was due to his physique on the day !!

Bob did well to achieve what he achieved due to his commitments and hectic schedule , so lets give some respect and love where it is due , sure you may think bob is a wanker , fair enough , but he did win and i always thought the winner was meant to be celebrated not decapitated !!!

hardcor

Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 17, 2006, 07:58:46 PM
I have never seen so much love lost for a person who has actualy succeded before !!!
Bob actualy won a show and he has practicly had a new arsehole ripped out for him !!!

There are some prospectives one should think about before they tear into bob any more,

1) If the show was fixed or the judges adhered to give bob 1st placing due to his involvment in the sport I am sure it was not at bobs request, in fact i bet he entered the show just like every one elese did , and that he got in the best shape he could at the time and left the rest to the judges .

2) if bobs sponcers had anything to do with bobs win , i bet bob was totaly unawear of it , and would be horrified to know that he was gifted a place rather than have earnt it !

3) At every god damm show there is ALWAYS a elemant of dissaproval of a placeing and always the complaint of the judges being blind or the show was rigged or the athlete didint deserve his spot , ALWAYS, and this show is no different

Bob won , end of story realy , and the only influance I am sure bob would have liked to have on his winning was due to his physique on the day !!

Bob did well to acheive what he acheived due to his commitments and hectic schedule , so lets give some respect and love where it is due , sure you may think bob is a wanker , fair enough , but he did win and i always thought the winner was meant to be celebrated not decapetated !!!

hardcor




Marc, I love ya bro, but your spelling makes Mike Tyson look like Stephen B. Hawking.  Spell checks are free on the internet my good man.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: HRDCOR on April 17, 2006, 08:03:24 PM
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Marc, I love ya bro, but your spelling makes Mike Tyson look like Stephen B. Hawking.  Spell checks are free on the internet my good man.                                                                                                             


Sorry man , i am actualy as thick as two planks !!!

i fixed it tho , is it better now ???
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 17, 2006, 08:04:02 PM
you're missing the point HRDCOR - Rusty was overlooked big time - be it becuase of his porn days or some elaborate pro-Bob consipiracy. A lot of us agree with Bob's victory and have already congratulated him - we're upset at the fact that Bob was given ONLY ONE CALLOUT! That's bullcrap. Rusty Jeffers, who even Milos Sarcev agrees looked fantastic, was not given a fair shake and a fair shot at the title. They didn;t even have a final callout at the end between the front runners like they do at EVERY OTHER SHOW. Rusty deserved AT LEAST top 5. Considering the depth of the lineup, he couldnt have simply been overlooked. To be blunt, the field was crap and Rusty blew the other top guys away except for Bob. He deserved more comparisons and a higher place than 8th and 95% of the people here agree. It was a poorly run show and it left a sour taste in people's mouths.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: nzmusclemonster on April 17, 2006, 08:05:32 PM
Tall poppy syndrome.... even ronnie has his fair share of haters
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 08:05:34 PM
Good post even with the distracting Spelling Nazi waving, "over here over here ahhhhh ahhhhh over here...."
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: HowieW on April 17, 2006, 08:05:48 PM
I agree 100% hardcore.Bob is a real, tried ad true bodybuilder, came in ready in great shape and pulled it off. What happens? tons of naysayers rag on the guy, why??? who the F_____ knows?
In this sport it seems we have a core of fans that hate you win, say you got screwed when you don't and laugh when you do the stuff they demand (i.e. drugs, obtain a freaky look, etc)
Some these fans sound like an old lady that has not been laid in years, finally has a guy do her up right and she bitches about how he is doing it , claimes a headache and stops...cycle starts again.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 08:09:22 PM
I agree 100% hardcore.Bob is a real, tried ad true bodybuilder, came in ready in great shape and pulled it off. What happens? tons of naysayers rag on the guy, why??? who the F_____ knows?
In this sport it seems we have a core of fans that hate you win, say you got screwed when you don't and laugh when you do the stuff they demand (i.e. drugs, obtain a freaky look, etc)
Some these fans sound like an old lady that has not been laid in years, finally has a guy do her up right and she bitches about how he is doing it , claimes a headache and stops...cycle starts again.
Good post. 



At least some of these naysayers are multiple 240 accounts and that's as dirt low as it gets.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 08:11:02 PM
Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing :)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 08:12:33 PM
At least some of these naysayers are multiple 240 accounts and that's as dirt low as it gets.

I only have one account.  You sound so stupid when you accuse me of that.  Anyone who reads getbig knows I am fearless to say anything to anyone.  To think i'd create another personality is just lame, man.  Ask Ron, ping the proxies, whatever you need to do.  just STFU already, you're dead wrong, berserker.  Period :)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 08:14:22 PM
Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing :)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 17, 2006, 08:17:29 PM
Guys,

stop the infighting and address the issue at at hand.  Bob won a rigged show so he can add another meaningless credential to already laughable resume.  Even HRDCOR thinks he's a "wanker".
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: pumpster on April 17, 2006, 08:20:01 PM
Thank god it's over; Bob can now resume hard-core training!  ::)

I liked his commentary on the fit show.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 08:22:06 PM
Berserker, address my argument point-by-point and tell me what is 'retarded' in all your grace.
Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 08:23:51 PM
Berserker, address my argument point-by-point and tell me what is 'retarded' in all your grace.
Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing
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Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: HRDCOR on April 17, 2006, 08:25:49 PM
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Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing


240 ---- of course bob wanted the title , thats why he did the show, the point I am try to express is that i bet a buck to a penny that bob would have never thought that the show was rigged and that he turned up to compete just like every one Else did !!

In regards to Rusty i posted early on that i thought that the man should have been top 3 , but this is not about rusty , it is about bob did the best he could and on this day it was good enough to win , so lets celebrate the effort !!

to those who say he wasn't there and this guy wasn't there , the fact is they weren't so it is a wasted observation ,thats like saying lee wouldn't have won the ironman if Ronnie was there or jay was there , it makes no sense , as they weren't , so ?????

Any how i like to give credit where credit is due so well done bob , THIS IS  NOT ABOUT YOUR PERSONALITY IT IS ABOUT YOUR ACHEIVEMENT , CONGRATS
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 08:27:41 PM
Berserker, I'll accept your inability to argue my points as your surrender.


Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Karl Kox on April 17, 2006, 08:30:15 PM
All anyone would have to do is watch WAR FOR THE WORLDS and they can see Bobs transformation. He dose deserve some credite ofr that
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 08:31:52 PM
There is no point in actually hashing it out with 240.  If you hit him with any logic, he does not respond but moves on to the next 50 posts running like hell.  Go back trough his posts and see just how many times he just takes off mid stream when it starts to go bad for him.  Something I don't have a history of like he does. There's no doubt he has the time on getbig, so why all the bailing ???
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Lift Studios on April 17, 2006, 08:36:59 PM
The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.
What's this "we" talk - do you have a mouse in your pocket?

You try to position yourself as a "fan"... tell us Rob how many bodybuilding shows have you actually attended, in person?

Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 08:37:10 PM
Berserker, I'll accept your inability to argue my points as your surrender.


Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing
You want me to refute what is all wild speculation on your part with not a FUKIN SHRED of evidence.  Then you're going to claim some victory because I don't wish to look at your SPECULATION with any seriousness...  What kind of assclown claims a victory doing this?  There's nothing to your post, hense YOU'RE RETARDED!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 08:46:54 PM
Just read this!!!! It's like the ranting of an institutionalized madman.  I'd like to quote, "This is great stuff.  I could make a career out of this guy. You see how clever this part is...how it doesn't require a shred of proof.  Most paranoid delusions are intricate...but this is brilliant." but the only problem, it's not brilliant :-\

Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing :)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 17, 2006, 08:47:57 PM
What's this "we" talk - do you have a mouse in your pocket?

You try to position yourself as a "fan"... tell us Rob how many bodybuilding shows have you actually attended, in person?



Hey Lift,

Rob is quite outspoken about the hypocrisy of the IFBB and his picture is posted all over the place.  Would you attend these shows if you were him? Having seen a picture of you, I can rest assured the answer is an enthusiastic "no".
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 08:49:17 PM
What's this "we" talk - do you have a mouse in your pocket?
You try to position yourself as a "fan"... tell us Rob how many bodybuilding shows have you actually attended, in person?

So to be an NFL fan you have to go to games?  Gimme a break.  lift, it's fine if you want to be blind to the fact that we all know one man would get screwed at this show and one man who would not.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 08:51:48 PM
Hey Lift,

Rob is quite outspoken about the hypocrisy of the IFBB and his picture is posted all over the place.  Would you[/b ]attend these shows if you were him? Having seen a picture of you, I can rest assured the answer is an enthusiastic "no".
OH you can't go to a bb show if you're not a beast?  You can only be a true bodybuilding fan if you're heavily muscled?  WTF?
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Tigerman on April 17, 2006, 08:53:42 PM
Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing :)

240, you are a fairly intelligent dude but wtf? We know that you don't like Chic and you had some controversy with him, we also know how much you support PDI... but can you make an attempt to be fair and unbiased? How can you claim in honesty that Bob's victory was fixed?
You can make a case for Rusty bad placing, but every other outcome for the 1st place would have been a scandal.
And tell me, what's wrong with Chic competing in the Masters? I guess he has the right to do it. Then you guys talk about Vince Taylor. He did the Masters O. for years, without putting any effort (he admitted this) to conquer those victories and now you bring him as an example against Chic...
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Bast175 on April 17, 2006, 08:53:49 PM
OH you can't go to a bb show if you're not a beast?  You can only be a true bodybuilding fan if you're heavily muscled?  WTF?

you can go but you won't be invited to the gay hot tub party afterwards.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 17, 2006, 08:55:10 PM
OH you can't go to a bb show if you're not a beast?  You can only be a true bodybuilding fan if you're heavily muscled?  WTF?

You missed my point completely. Rob has a target on his head, literally I suspect in some households that post here.  That was my point.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Lift Studios on April 17, 2006, 08:55:39 PM
So to be an NFL fan you have to go to games?
Point taken. You'd find something to complain about no matter what the results of the show Rob. That's what we've all come to expect from you. You went from doing funny gif animations to starting consipracy theories on every show.

Since you said you are a fan, just how do you quantify yourself as a fan of bodybuilding? You don't attend shows, okay. You hate all the magazines and call them rags. Bash the supplement companies. Just curious what actually makes you a fan...

Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 08:56:28 PM
So to be an NFL fan you have to go to games?  Gimme a break.  lift, it's fine if you want to be blind to the fact that we all know one man would get screwed at this show and one man who would not.
You don't need to be at a game to see the play in detail, but you need to be at a bb show to see the competition.  A football game has so many eyes and angles letting you see what's going on that the guy at home often get more info about the game than many in the statium.  So yea 240, you have to go to the bb events.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: pumpster on April 17, 2006, 08:57:06 PM
I'm really enjoying another endless debate that will wind down with nothing resolved; keep it up guys. Complain about 240 then turn around and take the bait every time.. :D Where's my popcorn?
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 08:59:20 PM
Point taken. You'd find something to complain about no matter what the results of the show Rob. That's what we've all come to expect from you. You went from doing funny gif animations to starting consipracy theories on every show.

Since you said you are a fan, just how do you quantify yourself as a fan of bodybuilding? You don't attend shows, okay. You hate all the magazines and call them rags. Bash the supplement companies. Just curious what actually makes you a fan...


Point not taken Lift.  He's fking wrong.  Its not like being an nfl fan.  ::)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 17, 2006, 08:59:55 PM
Point taken. You'd find something to complain about no matter what the results of the show Rob. That's what we've all come to expect from you. You went from doing funny gif animations to starting consipracy theories on every show.

Since you said you are a fan, just how do you quantify yourself as a fan of bodybuilding? You don't attend shows, okay. You hate all the magazines and call them rags. Bash the supplement companies. Just curious what actually makes you a fan...




I'll tell you what makes me a fan Lift, I think you are HOT!!!
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 09:01:41 PM
you can go but you won't be invited to the gay hot tub party afterwards.
;D
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Lift Studios on April 17, 2006, 09:07:16 PM
Point not taken Lift.  He's fking wrong.  Its not like being an nfl fan.  ::)
I agree with you it's not like being an NFL fan in regards to watching it in person.

This is one of the only industries where guys like 240 can interact with pros and it's sad to see guys like him run most of the pros off because of their childhood banter.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 17, 2006, 09:10:16 PM
I agree with you it's not like being an NFL fan in regards to watching it in person.

This is one of the only industries where guys like 240 can interact with pros and it's sad to see guys like him run most of the pros off because of their childhood banter.


Tough talk is HOT!!! Lift, what are you doing after the Colorado Pro? Wanna come over to my hotel room and watch some Guy Grundy vids with me?
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 09:16:06 PM
Point taken. You'd find something to complain about no matter what the results of the show Rob. That's what we've all come to expect from you. You went from doing funny gif animations to starting consipracy theories on every show.

Since you said you are a fan, just how do you quantify yourself as a fan of bodybuilding? You don't attend shows, okay. You hate all the magazines and call them rags. Bash the supplement companies. Just curious what actually makes you a fan...



I read MD every month.  I get FLEX sometimes.  So I don't hate the mags, I just give them heat as I am just another market factor they consider when publishing.

When did I ever bash supp companies?  I build websites for lots of supp companies.  Do I think the masses should look twice when Vyo gives Bob Chick a cash prize which he immediately re-gifts to a charity belonging to a Vyo athlete?  Well, duh.  of course.  If the govt was doing this, lawyers would be all over it!

I am talented at taking the underdog's position and analyzing it.  Period.  I never said Bob Chick didn't deserve the win.  I did mention that if Rusty was judged incorrectly, that calls into question ALL of the judging decisions.  Doesn't it?  If a cop is arrested for corruption, they re-examine ALL his past testimony and retry ALL those cases, as a person entrusted with ability to execute decisional power of a group of individiuals.  That's what judges are too.  And when they screw Jeffers, we have to wonder why, and if there was a concerted effort to screw one guy, was there also an effort to promote another? ;)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 09:29:50 PM
240, you are a fairly intelligent dude but wtf? We know that you don't like Chic and you had some controversy with him, we also know how much you support PDI... but can you make an attempt to be fair and unbiased? How can you claim in honesty that Bob's victory was fixed?
You can make a case for Rusty bad placing, but every other outcome for the 1st place would have been a scandal.
And tell me, what's wrong with Chic competing in the Masters? I guess he has the right to do it. Then you guys talk about Vince Taylor. He did the Masters O. for years, without putting any effort (he admitted this) to conquer those victories and now you bring him as an example against Chic...

240 was actually calling it a fix 2 weeks ago.  It's interesting to note that he started the Fix accusations when the pics started to show Bob would be a competitive challenge.  AS SOON AS people started noting that Bob was coming in 240's mouth started the fix spew.  Where is the credibility in his accusations now knowing this ???
On March 30, 2006:
Did you already call Stan McCrary and gloat about the win?  I heard he already got his 2nd place check in the mail.  The fix is in!
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 09:32:48 PM
The fix was in, dear.

If any athlete gets placed wrongly for political reasons, it was a fix. 
Rusty 8th = fixed.

Also, because we never saw a Pavol/Bob/Rusty posedown, the legitimacy of Bob's win will forever be cast in a shadow of doubt from the fans, his peers, and Bob himself.  It's true.

Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 09:35:00 PM
The fix was in, dear.

If any athlete gets placed wrongly for political reasons, it was a fix. 
Rusty 8th = fixed.

Also, because we never saw a Pavol/Bob/Rusty posedown, the legitimacy of Bob's win will forever be cast in a shadow of doubt from the fans, his peers, and Bob himself.  It's true.


Call me dear one more time C U N T.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: proschic on April 17, 2006, 10:22:15 PM
I read MD every month.  I get FLEX sometimes.  So I don't hate the mags, I just give them heat as I am just another market factor they consider when publishing.

When did I ever bash supp companies?  I build websites for lots of supp companies.  Do I think the masses should look twice when Vyo gives Bob Chick a cash prize which he immediately re-gifts to a charity belonging to a Vyo athlete?  Well, duh.  of course.  If the govt was doing this, lawyers would be all over it!

I am talented at taking the underdog's position and analyzing it.  Period.  I never said Bob Chick didn't deserve the win.  I did mention that if Rusty was judged incorrectly, that calls into question ALL of the judging decisions.  Doesn't it?  If a cop is arrested for corruption, they re-examine ALL his past testimony and retry ALL those cases, as a person entrusted with ability to execute decisional power of a group of individiuals.  That's what judges are too.  And when they screw Jeffers, we have to wonder why, and if there was a concerted effort to screw one guy, was there also an effort to promote another? ;)


Holy shit! Now I see why bob thinks you are a complete tool.

Vyo-tec didnt have anything to do with the BB.com FAN poll. It was a on-line poll that fans could vote for THEIR favorite, and Bob won with almost 90% of the vote.

It was BOBS decision to donate the $1,000 to CHARITY. The money goes to the kids at the C.H.O.C. Hospital, not S Ray, and not Vyo-tec.



Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: LuciusFox on April 17, 2006, 10:26:31 PM
Berserker, I'll accept your inability to argue my points as your surrender.


Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing


 This is not an argument. An argument is a series of logical points that lead to a conclusion. None of this shows that the show was rigged.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: bic_staedtler on April 17, 2006, 10:36:18 PM
Berserker, address my argument point-by-point and tell me what is 'retarded' in all your grace.
Bob wanted a title before he retired.
Bob wanted "Masters Pro Champion BBer" under his name when he's on FOX news for the Titus trial.  He needed something to show he was a pro Bber.
He's done.  With the fans, with the competition.

IFBB needed a nice cover boy, some love for BBing.com, and VYO happy.  They got that.  It was a short term fix.

Long term, they lost fans.  We all now see what crap it was.  The camera angles were biased.  The judging was crap.  Flexonline's coverage was crap.  The fans are not stupid- we see this and we are tired of it.

Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing

.....dude, seriously...there isn't any real debate over who won this show.  From the pics I saw, Bob looked like he won it...and this isn't the first time a little clout helped a guy win.

But really, do you honestly think there was some huge scam being pulled by the sponsers?  Please, man.  It's just retarded to think so....what the hell 'real' benefit could there be?  Us talking about it?....no cash there!

You're just stirring up shit cause that's what you do.  If he didn't win you'd be doing something else to get attention.  As friggin' always. 

Are you pissed cause you got skipped for the 'job' Bob was alleged to offer you, only to find out you're INSANE?

Probably.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 10:37:32 PM
nah, i'm just pushing his buttons :)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Bast175 on April 17, 2006, 10:38:07 PM
i thought carl won, he had the better package

(http://www.daneland.com/carlshy.jpg)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: LuciusFox on April 17, 2006, 10:39:24 PM
nah, i'm just pushing his buttons :)

 You're a good guy, but you really need to find a new hobby.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 10:48:01 PM
nah, i'm just pushing his buttons :)
Spoken like a true attention whore after a fix.  At least you admit it.  Now go GET HELP!!!!
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: bic_staedtler on April 17, 2006, 10:49:35 PM
nah, i'm just pushing his buttons :)


...what was that, 2 minutes?  ....anyway, make it less obvious next time and if you're gonna pick an angle, pick something NOBODY would expect, or at least, pick a contest somebody actually gave a shit about.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 10:50:31 PM
i thought carl won, he had the better package

(http://www.daneland.com/carlshy.jpg)
Is that the kind of image that's in controversy?  That's NOT gay porn.  It's a guy pinup.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 10:52:28 PM
pick a contest somebody actually gave a shit about.

Okay.

The Colorado Pro it is! :)

Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 10:52:55 PM
Okay.

The Colorado Pro it is! :)


Please come to the show.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 10:55:02 PM
Please come to the show.

Hmmm.  It is during the NBA playoffs, and happens to be 8 states away.  Just not worth it.

Plus, if I attended, they might break the 20-mark.  Then shawn would have something to brag about.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 10:55:51 PM
Hmmm.  It is during the NBA playoffs, and happens to be 8 states away.  Just not worth it.

Plus, if I attended, they might break the 20-mark.  Then shawn would have something to brag about.
Ok what show will you be going to 240?
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 10:57:42 PM
Ok what show will you be going to 240?

I'm hitting Arvilla's show, plus the Orlando PDI thingie.  Maybe New York if Rhino can talk my wife into mot killing me.  And I will go to the 2 local ones this year.  I like the pwoerlifting shows too.  They take all day, but they're unpredictable.

And you?
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 10:58:43 PM
I'm hitting Arvilla's show, plus the Orlando PDI thingie.  Maybe New York if Rhino can talk my wife into mot killing me.  And I will go to the 2 local ones this year.  I like the pwoerlifting shows too.  They take all day, but they're unpredictable.

And you?
The Colorado Pro/am and planning on the Olympia if we can
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 10:59:18 PM
The Colorado Pro/am

what's the am stand for?

oh wait, amateur? I should have known that...
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 11:01:27 PM
Give it a break 240.  It's the first fucking year for it.  What the hell do you expect, the Arnold/Ironman the first year out???  Come on!!!!  What did the Arnold look like its first year?
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 11:04:33 PM
Give it a break 240.  It's the first fucking year for it.  What the hell do you expect, the Arnold/Ironman the first year out???  Come on!!!!  What did the Arnold look like its first year?

Yeah, I just bust Shawn's chops cause he won't release the athlete's list.  Three weeks before the show, and fans don't know who they're going to see. If you have limited income and can only see 2-3 shows a year, the difference in flying to NY vs Colo might be seeing a certain competitor.  I don't really dig the fact shawn's so secretive about the final list.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 11:10:31 PM
Yeah, I just bust Shawn's chops cause he won't release the athlete's list.  Three weeks before the show, and fans don't know who they're going to see. If you have limited income and can only see 2-3 shows a year, the difference in flying to NY vs Colo might be seeing a certain competitor.  I don't really dig the fact shawn's so secretive about the final list.

Again 240, it's the first year and you are coming down real fking hard on it.  You could be more constructive about it but it comes across just spitefull the way you do it.  You've done your damn best to make a mockery of it.  I'll ask you.  Please give it a chance.  Please send your constructive comments to Shawn instead of lambasting the show.  The show is important to other people you know.  Again, it's the first year.  There's going to be problems and all things considered it's not a bad start at all.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 11:12:53 PM
I can respect that.  I also used to blast the show as a way to piss off shawn, who couldn't post my pic fast enough, just to start stuff.  Since Ron tore him a new one, he has stopped and so have I. 

It is the 18th already though, and Shawn still hasn't made the April 15th announcement about who will be in the show.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: thisiskeith12 on April 17, 2006, 11:14:15 PM
I can respect that.  I also used to blast the show as a way to piss off shawn, who couldn't post my pic fast enough, just to start stuff.  Since Ron tore him a new one, he has stopped and so have I. 

It is the 18th already though, and Shawn still hasn't made the April 15th announcement about who will be in the show.

Holy Bejeezerz!!!! Get in the Kamora!!!!!
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 11:18:13 PM
Get in the Kamora!!!!!

???

(http://www.bestinwine.com/shop/image.php?productid=16247)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 11:19:31 PM
I can respect that.  I also used to blast the show as a way to piss off shawn, who couldn't post my pic fast enough, just to start stuff.  Since Ron tore him a new one, he has stopped and so have I. 

It is the 18th already though, and Shawn still hasn't made the April 15th announcement about who will be in the show.
I'm absolutely sure that Shawn is not doing this as any kind of trickery.  I know I keep saying it but it is the first year.  There's going to be waves.  It does mean a lot to others.  All I ask is that you give it a chance since it means something to more than one person.  For what's it worth if anything I'll have a lot more respect if you can do that.  Not that you're looking for my respect I understand.  I guess i'm just trying to reason with you on this.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 11:20:27 PM
???

(http://www.bestinwine.com/shop/image.php?productid=16247)
I really would much rather have a corona with you that have the feeling I want to kill you each day ;D
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 11:21:07 PM
I'm cool.  I know a lot of ppl in Denver and in the industry are putting a lot into the show, and it's success is good for everyone.

But shawn, just release the list already :)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2006, 11:22:19 PM
that's the crazy thing. in real life, if we were all confined in the same place, we'd prob have a steak and a tea or beer and just shoot the shit about the sport, the NFL, politic, whatever. on the boards, it's really easy to invoke violence.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 11:22:30 PM
I'm cool.  I know a lot of ppl in Denver and in the industry are putting a lot into the show, and it's success is good for everyone.

But shawn, just release the list already :)
cool ;D
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 11:24:48 PM
that's the crazy thing. in real life, if we were all confined in the same place, we'd prob have a steak and a tea or beer and just shoot the shit about the sport, the NFL, politic, whatever. on the boards, it's really easy to invoke violence.
I Agree ;)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 18, 2006, 11:23:27 AM
Why is it that most of you pro-Bob people refuse to address the issue of Rusty Jeffers being shafted? All you bloody well do is personally attack Rob/240. You say that his conspiracy theories are pathetic - well your company line is even worse - it makes you look like simple minded yes-men with no thoughts of your own. If you're going to argue that way shove off and go to Mayhem like the rest of the groupthink pricks.

RUSTY JEFFERS' PHYSIQUE WAS PHENOMINAL. How you can ignore that point is beyond me. Why won't any of you (Berserker) actually address that? Rob/240 already congratulated Bob on his victory - it was well deserved. CONGRATS BOB, YOU DESERVED TO WIN AND I WAS PULLING FOR YOU! But, the fact that Rusty Jeffers wasn't given a comparison is BULLCRAP and you bloody well know it - all of you! The judging in that regard was not based on his physique but his porn career and that is not okay. We might as well call the IFBB the WWE if that's going to happen. And don't tell me that there is always controversy at shows - people are always overlooked. That's rubbish! The field looked like shit and the bottom half dumping ground of any Ironman pro. Rusty blew them all away. 8th place???? Can you honestly look at tthe pictures and the footage and agree with that??? Actually answer the question!
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 18, 2006, 11:36:50 AM
And what of Claude Groulx even placing? Don't get me worng, I'm a proud Canadian and I'm a fan of him, but did the distention advisory expire? Does it have to be renewed every year or did the judges just forget about it?
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 18, 2006, 11:41:51 AM
Chick  11:37:00 AM Viewing the topic Love lost for bob.

Chick  11:38:00 AM Viewing his Master's Pro win as the sham that it is.

Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: CQ on April 19, 2006, 02:55:52 AM


It was BOBS decision to donate the $1,000 to CHARITY. The money goes to the kids at the C.H.O.C. Hospital, not S Ray, and not Vyo-tec.


It was a very nice gesture on Bob's part.

It is a real shame when Bob is nice enough to donate $1,000 to charity, and no one takes the time to commend it...just complains instead :-\

Love or hate the guy, he should get his props for that.

Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hedgehog on April 19, 2006, 03:55:42 AM
Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing :)

Before you got interested in bodybuilding, cerca 3 years ago, Wayne DeMilia was actually vice president of the IFBB, and the guy responsible for years of injustice within the IFBB.

DeMilia was very much part of creating the judging culture where a guy like Rusty Jeffers is placed in 8th.

Exactly where do you get the idea that Wayne DeMilia is going to do something entirely different from what he did when he was running the IFBB?

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: dseiler on April 19, 2006, 04:41:37 AM


Nice grammar. Proves your point eloquently.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 19, 2006, 04:58:25 AM
Nice grammar. Proves your point eloquently.
What are u talking about?  :D
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 19, 2006, 05:14:46 AM
Nice grammar. Proves your point eloquently.

For future reference, if you're going to be a grammar Nazi, you better make sure you're in a position to talk.

Kickass. Some of those KO's are from the early UFC days when the "pussy" refs wouldn't dive in to save an fighter who had been knocked out. He'd get pounded and start posturing.

Man, that shit was scary.

I am sure Bob didn't get where he is today based what he shows on the Fit Show training segments. You have to understand these are segments primarily aimed towards showing a GLIMPSE of the BBer lifestyle. When you've got a camera in your face (and I will guarantee the footage is heavily edited for appeal) you play it up every once in a while.

You think anyone that trained with Tom Prince knows what intensity means. Bob says it himself, training with Prince is no joke.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: onlyme on April 19, 2006, 05:42:08 AM
Before you got interested in bodybuilding, cerca 3 years ago, Wayne DeMilia was actually vice president of the IFBB, and the guy responsible for years of injustice within the IFBB.

DeMilia was very much part of creating the judging culture where a guy like Rusty Jeffers is placed in 8th.

Exactly where do you get the idea that Wayne DeMilia is going to do something entirely different from what he did when he was running the IFBB?

YIP
Zack

Vice President, so he took his orders from the President and the owner.  Even as the President he took his orders from Weider.  How can you and some others who have been around for awhile don't realize this.  How can you say Wayne made the decisions.  He followed through with them absolutely, it was his job. Just like when a private in the military is ordered to kill someone.  He is following orders.  He did not come up with them.  It is Weiders company.  DO any of you know this.  Or is this a news flash.  I know most companies owner have the final say so.  They say yes or they say no.  I don't know of to many big companies like the IFBB that is in the public eye to have so many things happen behind their back.  Have you seen the Board of Directors the IFBB has.  Every single one of them work for Weider. He is their boss including Wayne's.  If Wayne did all this stuff that was so bad why didn't Weider fire him.  Wayne was with Weider how many years.  This was Wayne's job and passion.  100% of the Olympia is paid from Wayne's pocket.  Weiders didn't help fund any of it.  Wayne takes 100% of the risk and Weider gets 66+% of the profits.  Just like now AMI puts up 100% of the cost.  Weiders sit back do nothing and collect money.  There were other shows too that Wayne came forward with no fanfare or anyone knowing and help pay for costs that the promoter could not pay out of his own pocket.  Maybe not all the time like with the FLorida show, but it happened more times than not.  Do you think the Weiders are that stupid and let Wayne go off on his own and do things by himself without either their approval or their suggestions.

Does anyone know how much expense were just for the Weiders to attend the Olympia.  Just their expenses.  Does anyone know the exact amount the Weiders get for the fee for the Olympia.  The Weiders are not stupid.  What Wayne did however bad at times was not entirely his fault.  He had orders and he followed them.

With the PDI he has NO ONE to answer too.  That is why it will be allot better than how the IFBB is run and how the IFBB shows are run.  And that is why the PDI athletes will have a better chance at a career in BB rather than losing what they have and making only Weiders, Manion and the IFBB money.

And the judging criteria regarding Rusty was implemented by Weiders and the Board.  It is a known fact how anti-gay and anti porn they are.  Weider probably had a bad experience sometime in his life. ;D
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 19, 2006, 06:50:11 AM
maybe it was bob chicks agent idea to enhance a stalled resume
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on April 19, 2006, 07:55:59 AM
From the pics I saw, Bob looked like he won it

 ::)

Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: LuciusFox on April 19, 2006, 08:58:59 AM
::)



 Bob was the clear winner. I'm so proud of him for being a great athletes rep and giving that money to charity. When your jeaously for him ceases, I hope you congratulate him.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Don Miracle on April 19, 2006, 11:57:17 AM
-snip-
What happens? tons of naysayers rag on the guy, why??? who the F_____ knows?
-snip-

The same parade of screen-names line up on every thread.  Do you mean to tell me, for instance, '240 is back' and, say, 'Billy Rosewood' aren't the very same user?  240 has a MINIMUM of twenty accounts, all backing his viewpoints (read: obsessions).  Sort of like imaginary friends, I'd reckon.

240 seems like a halfway intelligent kid.  I hate - and I DO mean hate - to see him waste his energy on such a meaningless pursuit.  It isn't fair to the readers of Getbig.  If he took half the effort (read: time) toward building his skills and his website development business, he'd have a staff of designers working under him by now.
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 19, 2006, 12:00:00 PM
240 has a MINIMUM of twenty accounts, all backing his viewpoints (read: obsessions).  Sort of like imaginary friends, I'd reckon.

Would you care to place a small wager on this fact, Don?  I'd love to make a little money from your assumptions!
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: LuciusFox on April 19, 2006, 05:20:24 PM
Would you care to place a small wager on this fact, Don?  I'd love to make a little money from your assumptions!

   Why bother? You have probably found a way to make it look like they are not all you. ::)
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Don Miracle on April 19, 2006, 08:32:41 PM
Would you care to place a small wager on this fact, Don? 

...on this fact, you say?
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: Hedgehog on April 20, 2006, 03:44:29 AM
Somewhere, a man named Wayne is taking notes about how NOT to lose fan support.  ANd hopefully, this Sept, we'll see a fair show, even if it means a popular and marketable guy losing :)

Before you got interested in bodybuilding, cerca 3 years ago, Wayne DeMilia was actually vice president of the IFBB, and the guy responsible for years of injustice within the IFBB.

DeMilia was very much part of creating the judging culture where a guy like Rusty Jeffers is placed in 8th.

Exactly where do you get the idea that Wayne DeMilia is going to do something entirely different from what he did when he was running the IFBB?

YIP
Zack

Exactly where do you get the idea that Wayne DeMilia is going to do something entirely different from what he did when he was running the IFBB?

Bump
Title: Re: Love lost for bob
Post by: LuciusFox on April 20, 2006, 04:23:51 AM
Exactly where do you get the idea that Wayne DeMilia is going to do something entirely different from what he did when he was running the IFBB?

Bump

  Exactly. Why would anyone think Wayne has found the secret to the controversy-free bodybuilding show? ::)