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Title: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on May 01, 2020, 04:24:40 PM
California's Governor Newsom is a pure liberal, but because of his liberal Democratic views, and he is against Trump, he is literally trying to block counties that have flattened the virus, and are trying to start opening up from doing so.  The guy just does not care anymore and is so against business.  Los Angeles currently is at 40% employment rate, meaning that 60% of the people are unemployed. How much more after 7 weeks of lockdown does he think it is ok.

What bothers me is that he is NOT letting counties decide themselves, and rather overruling the judgement of doctors, people in their own place because he feels like being a dictator. This needs to stop.


And the protests are only going to get larger until he lets each place decide themselves.



https://ktla.com/news/local-news/demonstrators-gather-in-huntington-beach-to-protest-order-to-close-o-c-beaches-as-city-vows-legal-action-against-state/


https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article242421321.html


Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: youandme on May 01, 2020, 05:48:39 PM
That’s what California gets for having liberalism.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: chaos on May 01, 2020, 05:50:17 PM
Beach cities told Newscum to fuck himself. He's trying to incite violence so he can call out the National Guard.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 01, 2020, 05:50:35 PM
California's Governor Newsom is a pure liberal, but because of his liberal Democratic views, and he is against Trump, he is literally trying to block counties that have flattened the virus, and are trying to start opening up from doing so.  The guy just does not care anymore and is so against business.  Los Angeles currently is at 40% employment rate, meaning that 60% of the people are unemployed. How much more after 7 weeks of lockdown does he think it is ok.

What bothers me is that he is NOT letting counties decide themselves, and rather overruling the judgement of doctors, people in their own place because he feels like being a dictator. This needs to stop.


And the protests are only going to get larger until he lets each place decide themselves.



https://ktla.com/news/local-news/demonstrators-gather-in-huntington-beach-to-protest-order-to-close-o-c-beaches-as-city-vows-legal-action-against-state/


https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article242421321.html



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Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 01, 2020, 05:59:05 PM
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Doesn’t really effect you, you’ve always been unemployed and poor.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 01, 2020, 06:03:33 PM
Doesn’t really effect you, you’ve always been unemployed and poor.


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Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: AbrahamG on May 01, 2020, 06:04:15 PM
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No shit.  He should spend more time fixing his shitty upgrade rather than crying about beaches which don't want him there anyways.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 01, 2020, 06:06:55 PM
crying about beaches which don't want him there anyways.
;D ;D
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 01, 2020, 06:10:36 PM
That’s what California gets for having liberalism.

Yep.

You put liberals in office, then you got what you asked for.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 01, 2020, 06:12:01 PM
;D ;D

We can always count on you two, Chetard and Abrahack - the Tweedle Dick and Tweedle Douche of the boards- to say stupid shit no matter what the topic. I know you can't help it - it's a brain damage thing.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 01, 2020, 06:14:26 PM
We can always count on you two - Tweedle Dick and Tweedle Douche- to say stupid shit no matter what the topic. I know you can't help it - it's a brain damage thing.
STFU  you old wrinkly bitch  ,no one cares what you have to say .
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 01, 2020, 06:25:11 PM

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That’s what I thought. You’re a weak bitch. You have always been a weak bitch. I’m sure your weak bitch father feels ashamed at how much of a weak bitch his “son” is.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Twaddle on May 01, 2020, 06:25:53 PM
Ron is obviously having "Orange Chicken Withdrawals".  This is a grade 1 meltdown.   :D
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: AbrahamG on May 01, 2020, 06:26:32 PM
That’s what I thought. You’re a weak bitch. You have always been a weak bitch. I’m sure your weak bitch father feels ashamed at how much of a weak bitch his “son” is.

Holy fucking meltdown.  Easy VP, it's all in fun.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 01, 2020, 06:30:18 PM
Holy fucking meltdown.  Easy VP, it's all in fun.

Hahah. I was literally chuckling typing that.

Besides, we all know Che was raised by two moms.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: AbrahamG on May 01, 2020, 06:30:58 PM
Hahah. I was literally chuckling typing that.

Besides, we all know Che was raised by two moms.

Sounds hot!
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 01, 2020, 06:32:49 PM
Hahah. I was literally chuckling typing that.

Besides, we all know Che was raised by two moms.

Raised by two Jussie Smollett type dads, more likely.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: AbrahamG on May 01, 2020, 06:33:21 PM
Raised by two Jussie Smollett type dads, more likely.

Fantasizing again?
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: WalterWhite on May 01, 2020, 06:35:14 PM
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Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 01, 2020, 06:40:41 PM
That’s what I thought. You’re a weak bitch. You have always been a weak bitch. I’m sure your weak bitch father feels ashamed at how much of a weak bitch his “son” is.
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Haha ,settle down stud ,  it's not that important
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 01, 2020, 06:42:42 PM
Fantasizing again?

Jesus Christ you Downs Syndrome child, what is it that God didn’t give you that makes you crave attention from me?

Daddy did you dirty, didn’t he?
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: AbrahamG on May 01, 2020, 06:43:48 PM
Jesus Christ you Downs Syndrome child, what is it that God didn’t give you that makes you crave attention from me?

Daddy did you dirty, didn’t he?

Walter Slobbersoverblackcock
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 01, 2020, 06:48:19 PM
Haha ,settle down stud ,  it's not that important

Epic tail-tuck and bail.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on May 01, 2020, 09:39:13 PM
From many facebooks posts which I agree with

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I must admit I am very impressed how smart the Covid19 virus really is... It doesn't contaminate you at Walmart, Target, Costco, supermarkets, marijuana shops, etc... But it sure will get your ass at hair salons, nail salons, restaurants, bars and any other small business... and don’t forget outside on public land, on beaches, Drive-Ins, fishing, golfing and camping! Tricky little bastard

It isnt just about the 'beaches' - I could care less about that.  It is about opening up all business who can practice safe distancing, with masks in public places (especially anywhere indoors).  Anywhere which has a plan that can put people 6 feet apart, let them open.  If they cannot, they stay closed.  Simple as that.

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No shit.  He should spend more time fixing his shitty upgrade rather than crying about beaches which don't want him there anyways

Flamer is working on that, we knew there would be issues with migrating 7+ million messages, and once you reach 1,500 people at one time looking, always issues.  Why we did it on the slow time. It does stress me out, because I don't want to change a theme or anything until it can handle 2,000+ people without slowing down.

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You put liberals in office, then you got what you asked for

We forget that at least 30-35% of the people in California are conservative.  But alas, the big cities tend to pack a lot more people who are more liberal than not.


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Ron is obviously having "Orange Chicken Withdrawals".  This is a grade 1 meltdown

I am. I hate watching my friends, my family, people getting depressed, people losing their business, because our idiot governor has a liberal power agenda that requires more unemployment and more loss of incomes to many than thinking on how to make it work, or prioritizing hotspots and concentrating on nursery homes and jails and where the actual numbers are coming from (40% or more of the deaths from nursery homes and jails), 92% of the deaths have underlying health issues.  Facts are your changes if you are healthy is that the virus will be mild (97% of the KNOWN cases, thousands of others which have had it are unknown due to them being mild)

Yes, the lockdown was necessary to delay and flatten the curve, but after 7 weeks, it is time.



Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: pellius on May 02, 2020, 12:38:38 AM

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LOL. Perfect. That's what happens when you have people making policy for others while it has zero effect on their own lives -- all the while still getting paid by people who are no longer able to get paid.

Employers can't pay their employees because they are not making money so they have to shut down. Why are politicians still getting paid by their employers -- us -- when they're not making money.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Bevo on May 02, 2020, 12:49:50 AM
Love Newport Beach, my second home
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 02, 2020, 02:30:39 AM
Ironically, while they close the beaches in California, in Washington DC they’re riding the scam all the way to the beach. Don’t worry, CA will get a big cut.


Pelosi floats almost $1T for states in next relief package | TheHill

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/495497-pelosi-floats-almost-1t-for-states-in-next-relief-package
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: IroNat on May 02, 2020, 04:50:31 AM
He's another commie.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2020, 06:32:36 AM
California's Governor Newsom is a pure liberal, but because of his liberal Democratic views, and he is against Trump, he is literally trying to block counties that have flattened the virus, and are trying to start opening up from doing so.  The guy just does not care anymore and is so against business.  Los Angeles currently is at 40% employment rate, meaning that 60% of the people are unemployed. How much more after 7 weeks of lockdown does he think it is ok.

What bothers me is that he is NOT letting counties decide themselves, and rather overruling the judgement of doctors, people in their own place because he feels like being a dictator. This needs to stop.


And the protests are only going to get larger until he lets each place decide themselves.



https://ktla.com/news/local-news/demonstrators-gather-in-huntington-beach-to-protest-order-to-close-o-c-beaches-as-city-vows-legal-action-against-state/


https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article242421321.html

Everywhere in the country where their Governor’s keep moving the goal posts and in some cases continue and add more restrictions and time to their lockdowns is all in Dem ran states.

The libs on here that make fun of what’s going on can’t explain shit so what else is left? You complete morons that think it’s just about the beaches are just as blind (or flat out stupid) as the leftists In my state and yours. This asshole Newsom released 3500 inmates throughout the state some who are rapists and murderers but wants to fuck with surfers and small business owners. Che, you’re a fucking uneducated moron to the enth  degree and ignorant as fuck.

The rest of you, keep voting blue for no apparent reason (because you can’t give one) and what’s happening today will be the norm because it’s obvious you like being controlled and your rights fucked with. Che, hows that Mayor of Chicago doing...right up there with Newsom.

Abraham, hows that complete disaster of a Governor doing in your state? Newsom makes Moonbaby Brown look like Ronald Reagan but I can’t blame the politicians until they’re in office, I put 100% blame on the fucktards who were warned that voted them in.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on May 02, 2020, 07:24:12 AM

Keep gyms closed, close all parks and beaches, BUT please release these sex offenders, who the police have said they are likely to commit another offense.  Seriously - some of us are just stunned at the stupidity of some of these officials and judges.  How about they all move right next door to the judge that ordered this?

Enough is enough with the liberal stupidity, and lets get back to business, albeit socially distancing and wearing masks.


https://www.ktvu.com/news/california-prosecutors-warn-of-release-of-7-high-risk-sex-offenders-some-who-served-just-days

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 02, 2020, 07:29:06 AM
A new report reveals that almost all of the states where people earn the least are controlled by Republicans, while the states where people make the most money are almost exclusively led by Democratic politicians.

9 out of the 10 poorest states are red states


Weird
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 02, 2020, 07:49:29 AM
A new report reveals that almost all of the states where people earn the least are controlled by Republicans, while the states where people make the most money are almost exclusively led by Democratic politicians.

9 out of the 10 poorest states are red states


Weird

The four states on the verge of bankruptcy are:
California
Illinois
New York
Michigan

All Democrat run states and all broke and demanding federal bailouts, especially for unfunded pensions.

More liberal failure.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: chaos on May 02, 2020, 07:51:57 AM
A new report reveals that almost all of the states where people earn the least are controlled by Republicans, while the states where people make the most money are almost exclusively led by Democratic politicians.

9 out of the 10 poorest states are red states


Weird
Link?
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: stuntmovie on May 02, 2020, 08:49:17 AM
Someone said, "Anywhere which has a plan that can put people 6 feet apart, let them open.  If they cannot, they stay closed.  Simple as that.!"

And I, in all my stupidity, agree with some guy by the name of "RON" who said it.

Simply put ..... Here's both sides of what peoples think ....

Open up and RISK coronavirus or even a worser brand occurring.

Close down and fuck the economy.

Ron's suggestion is somewhere  in the middle ... so according to an ancient gambling dictionary  ... Ron's a middler which makes good sense and will most likely be the role all states will be playing before this problem is resolved!

The odds are set at 50/50! No matter what decision is made .. Close down or open up .... the individual who makes either decision is fucked, but the one who makes that middler decision will only be half fucked!

Hi, Ron!

 
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: chaos on May 02, 2020, 09:24:08 AM
Open it up, if you're scared, stay home, otherwise enjoy your life and live normally.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: IroNat on May 02, 2020, 12:29:17 PM
Open it up, if you're scared, stay home, otherwise enjoy your life and live normally.

This.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on May 02, 2020, 02:38:28 PM
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Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: WalterWhite on May 02, 2020, 03:46:43 PM
Maine of all places is being forced to stay quarantined until June 1st. :-\

This restaurant owner defied the order because he had already lost over 600k and the pos gov took his health license.

https://www.wmtw.com/article/maine-restaurant-owner-to-open-friday-to-dine-in-customers-defying-state-order/32343952

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: I Sinoda I on May 02, 2020, 03:50:37 PM
As I stated earlier, Israel is the only country ready to give China the Punishment it deserves.  The rest of the world needs to wake up.  China needs to pay.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Methyl m1ke on May 02, 2020, 04:01:51 PM
From many facebooks posts which I agree with

It isnt just about the 'beaches' - I could care less about that.  It is about opening up all business who can practice safe distancing, with masks in public places (especially anywhere indoors).  Anywhere which has a plan that can put people 6 feet apart, let them open.  If they cannot, they stay closed.  Simple as that.

Flamer is working on that, we knew there would be issues with migrating 7+ million messages, and once you reach 1,500 people at one time looking, always issues.  Why we did it on the slow time. It does stress me out, because I don't want to change a theme or anything until it can handle 2,000+ people without slowing down.

We forget that at least 30-35% of the people in California are conservative.  But alas, the big cities tend to pack a lot more people who are more liberal than not.


I am. I hate watching my friends, my family, people getting depressed, people losing their business, because our idiot governor has a liberal power agenda that requires more unemployment and more loss of incomes to many than thinking on how to make it work, or prioritizing hotspots and concentrating on nursery homes and jails and where the actual numbers are coming from (40% or more of the deaths from nursery homes and jails), 92% of the deaths have underlying health issues.  Facts are your changes if you are healthy is that the virus will be mild (97% of the KNOWN cases, thousands of others which have had it are unknown due to them being mild)

Yes, the lockdown was necessary to delay and flatten the curve, but after 7 weeks, it is time.

Safe distancing is lol

Covid19 is lol

Shelter in place over covid19 is lol

If you havent followed whats really going on read thin lizzys posts and youll have a pretty good idea.

OMG SPOOKY VIRUS IS GONNA GET US ALL HAHAAHA

not happening

Newsom needs to be removed immediately.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Methyl m1ke on May 02, 2020, 04:05:47 PM
Ron why do you ignore not only my private messages but those from pricessl as well?

We dont matter, we dont count i get it.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: joswift on May 02, 2020, 04:07:20 PM
Ron why do you ignore not only my private messages but those from pricessl as well?

We dont matter, we dont count i get it.

hahaha he doesnt give a fuck..
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: pellius on May 02, 2020, 06:36:15 PM
A new report reveals that almost all of the states where people earn the least are controlled by Republicans, while the states where people make the most money are almost exclusively led by Democratic politicians.

9 out of the 10 poorest states are red states


Weird

What do those stats say in regards to crime, homelessness, and tax rates?
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 02, 2020, 06:51:15 PM
What do those stats say in regards to crime, homelessness, and tax rates?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/11/07/best-worst-us-states-to-live-in/40544227/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/11/07/best-worst-us-states-to-live-in/40544227/)
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2020, 06:55:25 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/11/07/best-worst-us-states-to-live-in/40544227/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/11/07/best-worst-us-states-to-live-in/40544227/)

To my earlier point

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-threatens-citations-arrest-residents-ignore-stay-at-home-order

This only happens in Dem ran states
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 02, 2020, 06:59:30 PM
To my earlier point

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-threatens-citations-arrest-residents-ignore-stay-at-home-order

This only happens in Dem ran states
Good for Lori .
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: pellius on May 02, 2020, 07:00:17 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/11/07/best-worst-us-states-to-live-in/40544227/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/11/07/best-worst-us-states-to-live-in/40544227/)

I stopped reading when they list as the best States to live they had New Jersey at number three and Hawaii at number four. I had just read last week that Hawaii is the one of the worse States to retire in. It's expensive, homelessness is insane, the worse place to start a business because of the high taxes.

It just goes to show that it's all relative. Of course, if you have enough money, you can live pretty much anywhere well.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 02, 2020, 07:09:03 PM
I stopped reading when they list as the best States to live they had New Jersey at number three and Hawaii at number four. I had just read last week that Hawaii is the one of the worse States to retire in. It's expensive, homelessness is insane, the worse place to start a business because of the high taxes.

It just goes to show that it's all relative. Of course, if you have enough money, you can live pretty much anywhere well.

i agree , but no matter what list you look at when it comes to the worst states in the US  ,Alabama, Louisiana ,  Mississippi   .......(red states) , are always on top of the list.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 02, 2020, 07:28:23 PM
If everything that Democrats touch turns to shit  and everything Republicans touch turn to Gold


Explain this  (civil debate , no insults please )

Top 3 blue  states ,  bottom 3 red states ???

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings)
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 02, 2020, 07:30:55 PM
Good for Lori .

You’re full of shit. You don’t mean that.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: POB on May 02, 2020, 07:34:50 PM
Asshole filled the skate parks with sand to what a joke.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: pellius on May 02, 2020, 07:55:22 PM
If everything that Democrats touch turns to shit  and everything Republicans touch turn to Gold


Explain this  (civil debate , no insults please )

Top 3 blue  states ,  bottom 3 red states ???

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings)

Again, it's how you measure and interpret stats. For me, I would reject the top five picks on the weather alone. Of course, I'm from Hawaii. Also, Hawaii, before the virus, had the lowest unemployment rate in the country but it was all service type jobs that don't pay well. I discount education ratings as I would never send my kids to a public school. I think all government run schools suck and have an agenda. Things like gun rights are very important to me not just because I want law abiding citizens to be able to own and arm themselves, but it shows me the attitude the State has regarding a person's right to self-defense and just where they lean regarding individual rights and respect for the constitution. It's not a coincidence that people on the Right want to open up the States and resent have so much of their freedoms being restricted.

Things like natural environment aren't as crucial to me because that's for vacation time and not day to day living. Health care is more dependant on the type of insurance you have and not what State you live in.

So there are so many factors involved that it's hard to make such a list. Again, compare this list to the one you previously posted. For me, you'd think I'd be in Texas I'm so far right, but here I am in a purely run Democratic State with a miserable infrastructure as we have sunk a fortune on a rail system at a billion dollars a mile that few are going to use, homeless people harassing others on the street and the police don't bother to do anything about but if you are walking on the beach with your girl you get cited and sometimes arrested (no joke). The tax rate and regulations are such that a business, like Trader Joe's, which many are Hawaiian themed, can afford to open up here. When a machine breaks down in the gym you have to wait about three months before you can get part replacements because we are out in the middle of the ocean. The median home prices are now at $800,000 and rent for a tiny one-bedroom apartment starts at $1,400 - $1,600

But here I am bitching on one hand but loving the sun, surf, and family on the other.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 02, 2020, 08:09:06 PM
Again, it's how you measure and interpret stats. For me, I would reject the top five picks on the weather alone. Of course, I'm from Hawaii. Also, Hawaii, before the virus, had the lowest unemployment rate in the country but it was all service type jobs that don't pay well. I discount education ratings as I would never send my kids to a public school. I think all government run schools suck and have an agenda. Things like gun rights are very important to me not just because I want law abiding citizens to be able to own and arm themselves, but it shows me the attitude the State has regarding a person's right to self-defense and just where they lean regarding individual rights and respect for the constitution. It's not a coincidence that people on the Right want to open up the States and resent have so much of their freedoms being restricted.

Things like natural environment aren't as crucial to me because that's for vacation time and not day to day living. Health care is more dependant on the type of insurance you have and not what State you live in.

So there are so many factors involved that it's hard to make such a list. Again, compare this list to the one you previously posted. For me, you'd think I'd be in Texas I'm so far right, but here I am in a purely run Democratic State with a miserable infrastructure as we have sunk a fortune on a rail system at a billion dollars a mile that few are going to use, homeless people harassing others on the street and the police don't bother to do anything about but if you are walking on the beach with your girl you get cited and sometimes arrested (no joke). The tax rate and regulations are such that a business, like Trader Joe's, which many are Hawaiian themed, can afford to open up here. When a machine breaks down in the gym you have to wait about three months before you can get part replacements because we are out in the middle of the ocean. The median home prices are now at $800,000 and rent for a tiny one-bedroom apartment starts at $1,400 - $1,600

But here I am bitching on one hand but loving the sun, surf, and family on the other.

C'mon Pellius we are not talking about the weather here .
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: pellius on May 02, 2020, 08:12:45 PM
C'mon Pellius we are not talking about the weather here .

But I am. Weather to me is a very, very important consideration to take when deciding where I live and is not factored in those stats. I imagine street crime and violence would be much lower in areas that are freezing cold all the time.

My point is that there are many factors on what make a State the best place to live which is why every list seems to be different and is all over the place.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 02, 2020, 08:15:04 PM
No shit.  He should spend more time fixing his shitty upgrade rather than crying about beaches which don't want him there anyways.

Hahahahahaha
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 02, 2020, 08:35:19 PM
But I am. Weather to me is a very, very important consideration to take when deciding where I live and is not factored in those stats. I imagine street crime and violence would be much lower in areas that are freezing cold all the time.

My point is that there are many factors on what make a State the best place to live which is why every list seems to be different and is all over the place.

Politicians can't do much about the weather ,and  there are many cold places with  high crime rate - Chicago ,Detroit , Cleveland ........................ ..........

My question is when it comes to HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION , ECONOMY, INFRASTRUCTURE, OPPORTUNITY, FISCAL STABILITY, CRIME & CORRECTIONS, NATURAL ENVIRONMENT

Why  the top 3 are  blue  states , and  the  bottom 3 are red states

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: chaos on May 02, 2020, 09:24:48 PM
Politicians can't do much about the weather ,and  there are many cold places with  high crime rate ,Chicago ,Detroit , Cleveland ........................ ..........


My question is when it comes to HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION , ECONOMY, INFRASTRUCTURE, OPPORTUNITY, FISCAL STABILITY, CRIME & CORRECTIONS, NATURAL ENVIRONMENT
Why  the top 3 are  blue  states , and  the  bottom 3 are red states
Depends on who writes the article...
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 02, 2020, 09:29:01 PM
Depends on who writes the article...
I agree sir  , now show me an article where  Alabama , Louisiana , Mississippi are on top (best)
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Capt. SaveAHO on May 02, 2020, 09:45:38 PM
I agree sir  , now show me an article where  Alabama , Louisiana , Mississippi are on top (best)

Close enough.....

https://www.americanbible.org/features/americas-most-bible-minded-cities
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: che on May 02, 2020, 09:54:42 PM
Close enough.....

https://www.americanbible.org/features/americas-most-bible-minded-cities
:D
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: pellius on May 02, 2020, 11:58:39 PM
We seldom agree. As a retired person with a modest income, if I had to choose between Hawaii and New Jersey (which is where I was born), Hawaii wins, hands down.

I do have one enormous question, should I show up on your doorstep asking your advice on where I might find suitable housing for a person with only a modest income, would you be an asshole and kick me in the nuts or would you be a real man and let our water flow under the bridge?

Seriously, can you and I let bygones be bygones?

First of all, don't ever lecture me on what it takes to be a real man.

This will now be the third time I will address this situation. It's hard to believe that you missed the other two as you were active on the thread. I won't repost again for the third time but give you the link.

This is the link and refer to reply 107. I don't want any association with you and I'm trying to refrain from attacking your constant barrage of asinine posts. So lets just leave it at that and go our separate ways.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: pellius on May 03, 2020, 12:18:36 AM
Politicians can't do much about the weather ,and  there are many cold places with  high crime rate ,Chicago ,Detroit , Cleveland ........................ ..........


My question is when it comes to HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION , ECONOMY, INFRASTRUCTURE, OPPORTUNITY, FISCAL STABILITY, CRIME & CORRECTIONS, NATURAL ENVIRONMENT
Why  the top 3 are  blue  states , and  the  bottom 3 are red states

I don't know because there are so many factors involved. Do you know why? Do you think giving the government more power over your life makes for a better State? Can you prove that these States are successful because of Liberal policies or in spite of Liberal policies. California is a wealthy State (or was) not because of its political climate but because of its climate specifically. Beautiful weather with beaches, lakes, and mountains that they attract the wealthy that are immune to economic policies. These studies also don't take into account cultural issues which are also very important to a person that are not taken into account. Things like tolerance for the bums littering the streets, the blurring of genders, soft on crime, the right to self-defense....
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: chaos on May 03, 2020, 07:57:12 AM
I agree sir  , now show me an article where  Alabama , Louisiana , Mississippi are on top (best)
I doubt you'll find a list with those specific states on top, but I bet you could find a list where more red states are ranked higher than democratic run shitholes.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: el numero uno on May 03, 2020, 08:00:50 AM
Close enough.....

https://www.americanbible.org/features/americas-most-bible-minded-cities

Hahaha lol.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 03, 2020, 08:08:23 AM
First of all, don't ever lecture me on what it takes to be a real man.

This will now be the third time I will address this situation. It's hard to believe that you missed the other two as you were active on the thread. I won't repost again for the third time but give you the link.

This is the link and refer to reply 107. I don't want any association with you and I'm trying to refrain from attacking your constant barrage of asinine posts. So lets just leave it at that and go our separate ways.

Hahaha, the old phaggot wants to drain your dick.

That should seriously make you question your lifestyle choices of late.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on May 03, 2020, 11:16:19 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/gavin-newsom-beach-closure-newport-beach-mayor

Newport Beach mayor blasts California gov's beach closure order: 'This has nothing to do with data

Newport Beach, Calif., Mayor Will O'Neill slammed Gov. Gavin Newsom Friday over his order to close beaches in Orange County. O'Neill told "Tucker Carlson Tonight" that Newsom's order is politically motivated and not supported by medical data.

"Yesterday, Governor Gavin Newsom closed 43 miles of Orange County beaches, not because of data, but because of politics," he said. "In our local hospital, we have 475 beds. They have never treated more than 25 people at any given time, and yesterday they had nine people that they were treating, and only one percent of their ventilators were being used."
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: WalterWhite on May 03, 2020, 11:37:48 AM
I stopped reading when they list as the best States to live they had New Jersey at number three and Hawaii at number four. I had just read last week that Hawaii is the one of the worse States to retire in. It's expensive, homelessness is insane, the worse place to start a business because of the high taxes.

It just goes to show that it's all relative. Of course, if you have enough money, you can live pretty much anywhere well.

I grew up in MA and feel the same way about that state as you do about Hawaii.  I have only been to Maui for a few weeks at a time so I have no feel for living there.  I have traveled the country and always felt at home in NH.  No income or sales tax helps and it's very pretty with mountains and ocean near by. 

Here is a 19 ranking. NH is number two.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 03, 2020, 01:14:31 PM
Depends on who writes the article...

Exactly. These "state rankings" are so arbitrary. I have lived in NY, AZ, VA, SC and Ohio. Hands down NY was the worst state ever for business, education or health care. Now I live in SC. Just love it here. My house has a fantastic view of the mountains, the local hospital is so much better than the ones i used in NY and the school system turns out kids a heck of a lot smarter than the indoctrinated kids in NY. 

As for some of the states listed as in the bottom- that's a lot of editorial bias showing. Been to Alabama a lot on business and it's absolutely beautiful. I go to Huntsville where the space research groups are - and some of the most advanced technology innovations in the US are happening there. Mississippi is actually undergoing a great transformation as well - but the high humidity just doesn't sit well for me. But some people like it.

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on May 03, 2020, 08:53:58 PM

U.S. Marine speaks... in California at the capitol




California Police STAND DOWN After Marine Vet Challenges Their Integr
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Bevo on May 03, 2020, 09:07:13 PM
i agree , but no matter what list you look at when it comes to the worst states in the US  ,Alabama, Louisiana ,  Mississippi   .......(red states) , are always on top of the list.

Lots of trailer park trash rednecks, and ghetto negros, what could go wrong?
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 04, 2020, 10:27:45 AM
https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/gov-newsoms-5-western-state-pact-looks-more-like-collusion-than-cooperation/
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: WalterWhite on May 04, 2020, 11:12:00 AM
U.S. Marine speaks... in California at the capitol




California Police STAND DOWN After Marine Vet Challenges Their Integr

That video was awesome.

https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/gov-newsoms-5-western-state-pact-looks-more-like-collusion-than-cooperation/

Sums what's going on with these states perfectly Joe.

“I am very uncomfortable that we find ourselves with governors exercising broad, unchecked powers while the legislatures have recessed and the Courts aren’t convening,” Ose said. “Legislators and judges are critical parts of our governance and they need to be on the job exercising oversight and demanding transparency. Otherwise, we might as well be Venezuela.”

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 04, 2020, 11:40:15 AM
Got to keep the charade going until this gets done. At this point the politicians and the media no this is way overblown the same way they knew the Russian hoax was bullshit:



https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/495760-obstacles-mount-for-deal-on-next-coronavirus-bill


"We're looking at the states and municipalities and counties and the assistance that we would give them, we're looking at what are your outlays for the coronavirus and what is your revenue lost because of the coronavirus," Pelosi told reporters.



Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on May 07, 2020, 07:46:20 AM


Thanks Newsom for our wonderful economy in the state.  First state to go into lockdown, this idiot is still trying to hold on to his dictator powers by refusing to open more businesses but at a very slow rate to continue to cripple California, while other states are opening.

Then this comes out

California Coronavirus Update: Governor Gavin Newsom Predicts “Depression-Era” Unemployment Rates in State. California Governor Gavin Newsom delivered a sobering economic appraisal at his daily coronavirus press conference on Wednesday. After revealing an unprecedented spike in unemployment claims, he said, “You’ll see these numbers translating into unemployment rates that will be rather jaw-dropping.” Newsom called the rise in unemployment claims “without precedent in our state’s history,” noting that 4.2 million people have now applied for Public Unemployment Assistance and $10.6 billion in aid has already been distributed.




You know, maybe if you let the people work, and let businessess open via safe guidelines instead of trying to block everything, we can prevent this, but it seems that the California governor really wants to continue to hurt small business in California and more.  Stop delaying!!! Your political agenda is not worth 4.2 million+ unemployment and more.  Let the cities, and counties decide to open up, not you! How many more lawsuits do you need!

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 07, 2020, 07:50:13 AM
You’re being naive if you think he’s calling the shots. He’s getting his marching orders from Washington and his aunt Nancy.

Apparently they’re giddy about the economy tanking as they think it will hurt Trump and the Republicans in November.

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 07, 2020, 08:33:30 AM
You’re being naive if you think he’s calling the shots. He’s getting his marching orders from Washington and his aunt Nancy.

Apparently they’re giddy about the economy tanking as they think it will hurt Trump and the Republicans in November.

Exactly.  It won't work though. The Hitler-like actions of Democrat governors is doing their side major damage.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: SF1900 on May 07, 2020, 09:22:29 AM
I am probably the least conspiracy theorist person you will ever meet.

But, something in me keeps believing that there are a very few powerful people who are calling the shots--not even politicians. People who we don't even know exist.

It reminds me of the X-Files' "Cigarette Smoking Man." Some people like that. I remember in the Xfiles, the Cigarette Smoking Man and a few other men would meet in a room and discuss important world events and issues.

This group probably has a few getbiggers in it.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on May 07, 2020, 10:46:50 AM

Gov. Gavin Newsom destroying the state of California with his lockdowns and dictatorships. 

May 7th news

California will have a budget shortfall of $54.3 billion because of the economic devastation wrought by the coronavirus, Gov. Gavin Newsom’s administration announced Thursday, a stunning reversal for a state that had a $21 billion surplus a year ago. After recording record low unemployment of 3.9% at the start of the year, the Newsom administration now predicts a jobless rate of 18% for the nation’s most populous state — 46% higher than the height of the Great Recession a decade ago.

The Newsom administration estimates state general fund revenues will decline by $41.2 billion compared to the $222.2 billion spending proposal Newsom revealed in January. Plus, California must pay for an extra $7.1 billion for increased enrollment in some social safety net programs, including Medicaid, the joint state and federal health insurance program for the poor and disabled. Another $6 billion in anticipated emergency spending on the coronavirus for things like protective gear, hotel rooms for the homeless and cash payments for low-income adults living in the country illegally pushes the projected deficit past $50 billion. Meanwhile, lawmakers are already being asked to bail out the state’s essential industries. California hospitals say they have lost up to $14 billion by postponing elective surgeries and other procedures to make room for an anticipated surge of coronavirus cases that never happened

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 07, 2020, 11:11:11 AM
Gov. Gavin Newsom destroying the state of California with his lockdowns and dictatorships. 

May 7th news

California will have a budget shortfall of $54.3 billion because of the economic devastation wrought by the coronavirus, Gov. Gavin Newsom’s administration announced Thursday, a stunning reversal for a state that had a $21 billion surplus a year ago. After recording record low unemployment of 3.9% at the start of the year, the Newsom administration now predicts a jobless rate of 18% for the nation’s most populous state — 46% higher than the height of the Great Recession a decade ago.

The Newsom administration estimates state general fund revenues will decline by $41.2 billion compared to the $222.2 billion spending proposal Newsom revealed in January. Plus, California must pay for an extra $7.1 billion for increased enrollment in some social safety net programs, including Medicaid, the joint state and federal health insurance program for the poor and disabled. Another $6 billion in anticipated emergency spending on the coronavirus for things like protective gear, hotel rooms for the homeless and cash payments for low-income adults living in the country illegally pushes the projected deficit past $50 billion. Meanwhile, lawmakers are already being asked to bail out the state’s essential industries. California hospitals say they have lost up to $14 billion by postponing elective surgeries and other procedures to make room for an anticipated surge of coronavirus cases that never happened

When the economy opens back up, we’re going to get raped even harder with more and increased taxes.

Keep voting blue and this is what you’ll get every.single.time
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Jizmonkey on May 07, 2020, 12:46:17 PM
You’re being naive if you think he’s calling the shots. He’s getting his marching orders from Washington and his aunt Nancy.

Apparently they’re giddy about the economy tanking as they think it will hurt Trump and the Republicans in November.
Do you know when you believe every single conspiracy theory you lose credibility?
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on May 08, 2020, 11:07:57 AM

Thanks Tamer for this - we agree!


Freedom and Liberty are words often and easily spoken, but their true meaning and weight is carried from the deepest essence of our humanity. From the Civil War to WWII, 1,264,000 American soldiers died to protect these words. Many millions more have fought to preserve their freedom and liberty. Today we live in a society where questioning the government or disputing a scientific idea is reacted to with aggression and dealt with oppression. Copernicus once questioned the scientific community of his time by proposing that the earth orbited the sun. Giordano Bruno was burned by holding the same beliefs and questioning the experts at the time. It took Galileo a hundred years to convince the experts that Copernicus’ ideas could be right.

Scientific achievement is conquered by questioning the status quo and being inquisitive, not by conformity and acceptance. We continue to make the same mistakes by vilifying those that inquire, those the don’t accept the norms, those that fight for our freedom and liberty. Many man and women died so we could have our freedom to live and think. Tragically, we forget that historically, as a result of our fear, we’ve given up our security.

No war, no catastrophe, no virus is more important than Freedom and Liberty. That Freedom gives you the right to choose. Not to choose for others.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on June 13, 2020, 11:22:13 PM

With gyms finally opening up after THREE MONTHS of lockdown thanks to Newsom, the damage has been done.  24 Hour Fitness is closing down 32 California gyms permanently, while Gold's Gym Pasadena is also not going to open. Countless others are struggling, and Newsom's dictorial edicts has put California 50+ billion in the hole with many more problems coming for next year, including schools.

Meanwhile, at least there are some judges out there that are listening and ruling, including Superior Court Judge Perry Parker.  Gov. Gavin Newsom overstepped his powers with dozens of emergency orders during the coronavirus crisis that changed everything from how public meetings are conducted to when tenants can be evicted. This judge now limits Gov. Newsom’s emergency rule-making powers


https://ktla.com/news/california/judge-limits-gov-newsoms-emergency-rule-making-powers/
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: pellius on June 14, 2020, 02:34:18 AM
With gyms finally opening up after THREE MONTHS of lockdown thanks to Newsom, the damage has been done.  24 Hour Fitness is closing down 32 California gyms permanently, while Gold's Gym Pasadena is also not going to open. Countless others are struggling, and Newsom's dictorial edicts has put California 50+ billion in the hole with many more problems coming for next year, including schools.

Meanwhile, at least there are some judges out there that are listening and ruling, including Superior Court Judge Perry Parker.  Gov. Gavin Newsom overstepped his powers with dozens of emergency orders during the coronavirus crisis that changed everything from how public meetings are conducted to when tenants can be evicted. This judge now limits Gov. Newsom’s emergency rule-making powers


https://ktla.com/news/california/judge-limits-gov-newsoms-emergency-rule-making-powers/

Our governor just extended the lockdown on travel. Because of this one action, this one more extension, more businesses are shutting down for good. They are on the news. I so sympathize with them. They said they did everything that was asked of them, hanging on by a thread and the dates keep moving further each time. But they saw light at the end of the tunnel. If they could just hold on a little bit longer... but at some point, it was just too much. It wasn't sustainable. A business, a life, that they worked so, so hard to build just crushed by another executive order. More lives destroyed by a stroke of a pen by one man who suffers none of the consequences and whose life wasn't affected in the least bit. He still has his steady income flowing in and paid for by the very people whose lives he destroyed.

This so, so fucked. And they wonder why people at some point want to just take to the streets and destroy everything. It's so, so infuriating and maddening. And we have to just take it. They showed this lady closing up shop in Haleiwa that was started by her grandparents and supported their family for generations: putting food on the table, a roof over their heads, paying for college for their children -- all gone forever. Governor Ige just had to have that extra few weeks of shut down.

There will be no justice. It will just past and soon be forgotten except by those who suffered.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: chaos on June 14, 2020, 08:14:43 AM
With gyms finally opening up after THREE MONTHS of lockdown thanks to Newsom, the damage has been done.  24 Hour Fitness is closing down 32 California gyms permanently, while Gold's Gym Pasadena is also not going to open. Countless others are struggling, and Newsom's dictorial edicts has put California 50+ billion in the hole with many more problems coming for next year, including schools.

Meanwhile, at least there are some judges out there that are listening and ruling, including Superior Court Judge Perry Parker.  Gov. Gavin Newsom overstepped his powers with dozens of emergency orders during the coronavirus crisis that changed everything from how public meetings are conducted to when tenants can be evicted. This judge now limits Gov. Newsom’s emergency rule-making powers


https://ktla.com/news/california/judge-limits-gov-newsoms-emergency-rule-making-powers/
Newscum was on TV last year bragging about a $55 billion surplus and how we don't need the federal government, etc, how in the holy hell do we end up $55 billion in debt in 3 months? Basically he's saying he lost $110 billion dollars??
Hope you signed the recall petition, Ron.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on October 21, 2020, 08:32:00 AM
I never thought we would still be in this position with gyms in Los Angeles county still closed.  Newsom and his LA cronies has destroyed Los Angeles businesses and the taxes they bring in (I shudder to see how much they will raise taxes next year), but now, also destroying Disneyland, Knotts Berry and every entertainment park and resort also out here (including Universal Studios Hollywood), but not letting them reopened. 30,000 people in Anaheim alone are out of work for Disney related jobs, but they were also Anaheim's largest tax feeder (and the city is hundreds of millions of dollars in debt).   Science is no longer even justified anymore with this idiot, even when Disney and others PROVE they can open the parks.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/disneyland-parks-association-fire-back-203918438.html 

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 21, 2020, 08:36:11 AM
The rank and file citizenry is free to riot in California. But that would require balls.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: f450 on October 21, 2020, 08:37:40 AM
I never thought we would still be in this position with gyms in Los Angeles county still closed.  Newsom and his LA cronies has destroyed Los Angeles businesses and the taxes they bring in (I shudder to see how much they will raise taxes next year), but now, also destroying Disneyland, Knotts Berry and every entertainment park and resort also out here (including Universal Studios Hollywood), but not letting them reopened. 30,000 people in Anaheim alone are out of work for Disney related jobs, but they were also Anaheim's largest tax feeder (and the city is hundreds of millions of dollars in debt).   Science is no longer even justified anymore with this idiot, even when Disney and others PROVE they can open the parks.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/disneyland-parks-association-fire-back-203918438.html


And no government official has missed a paycheck yet. So sad and Evil !
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Grape Ape on October 21, 2020, 08:48:06 AM
And all they talk about is electing Democrats.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 21, 2020, 08:50:15 AM

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

~ Norman Thomas
(1884-1968) six-time U.S. Presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Dave D on October 21, 2020, 08:50:37 AM
Seriously how has Newsom not ne recalled yet? How much worse was it when Davis was recalled?
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 21, 2020, 09:09:52 AM
Seriously how has Newsom not ne recalled yet? How much worse was it when Davis was recalled?

TPTB want him there... same applies to: Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, Schumer, all libtard governors and mayors, etc.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Taffin on October 21, 2020, 09:18:39 AM
I never thought we would still be in this position with gyms in Los Angeles county still closed.  Newsom and his LA cronies has destroyed Los Angeles businesses and the taxes they bring in (I shudder to see how much they will raise taxes next year), but now, also destroying Disneyland, Knotts Berry and every entertainment park and resort also out here (including Universal Studios Hollywood), but not letting them reopened. 30,000 people in Anaheim alone are out of work for Disney related jobs, but they were also Anaheim's largest tax feeder (and the city is hundreds of millions of dollars in debt).   Science is no longer even justified anymore with this idiot, even when Disney and others PROVE they can open the parks.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/disneyland-parks-association-fire-back-203918438.html

It's terrible.  And (probably because I've Googled Venice Beach/Golds before) I keep getting YouTube recommendations showing the terrible homeless problem there now as a result  :'(


Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 21, 2020, 09:21:16 AM
With gyms finally opening up after THREE MONTHS of lockdown thanks to Newsom, the damage has been done.  24 Hour Fitness is closing down 32 California gyms permanently, while Gold's Gym Pasadena is also not going to open. Countless others are struggling, and Newsom's dictorial edicts has put California 50+ billion in the hole with many more problems coming for next year, including schools.

Meanwhile, at least there are some judges out there that are listening and ruling, including Superior Court Judge Perry Parker.  Gov. Gavin Newsom overstepped his powers with dozens of emergency orders during the coronavirus crisis that changed everything from how public meetings are conducted to when tenants can be evicted. This judge now limits Gov. Newsom’s emergency rule-making powers


https://ktla.com/news/california/judge-limits-gov-newsoms-emergency-rule-making-powers/

These leftist governors and mayors are all tin-pot dictators and petty tyrants.

11 years ago I told everyone I knew who lived in Cali to leave the state and move elsewhere.  Sadly, I'm the only one who did.  All my friends in SD are complaining about Grusome Newsome and all the far leftist crap that goes on there everyday.  A few own rental properties and have homeless shitting all over their sidewalks on a weekly basis.  Oh well.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: tommywishbone on October 21, 2020, 09:33:13 AM
 The City of San Francisco is a disgusting cesspool. Almost unrecognizable.  Gruesome Newsume appears to have quite literally lost his mind.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: MAXX on October 21, 2020, 03:10:25 PM
The City of San Francisco is a disgusting cesspool. Almost unrecognizable.  Gruesome Newsume appears to have quite literally lost his mind.

corruption, liberal govenors and liberal drug laws = Shithole
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Dokey111 on October 21, 2020, 03:18:34 PM
These leftist governors and mayors are all tin-pot dictators and petty tyrants.

11 years ago I told everyone I knew who lived in Cali to leave the state and move elsewhere.  Sadly, I'm the only one who did.  All my friends in SD are complaining about Grusome Newsome and all the far leftist crap that goes on there everyday.  A few own rental properties and have homeless shitting all over their sidewalks on a weekly basis.  Oh well.

I lived in SD late 90's and loved it.  I sometimes fantasize about moving back for my last years, but maybe it's not the same place any more?
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: OneMoreRep on October 21, 2020, 03:55:32 PM
Just got off the phone with a friend of mine that lives in Venice Beach. He said that California is becoming unbearable thanks to Newsom and the various mayors.

Particularly, he said the streets are changing. The old timers have mostly moved out and the homelessness has become overwhelming. Overall, his perspective is that the face of his city has drastically been changed and will likely not be restored given that the people who made up the spirit of the town have moved out.

"1"
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on January 26, 2021, 05:32:26 PM
Finally, after the recall efforts reaches 1.2 million votes, and it will get on the ballot, this guy decides to open up California. Never mind the lawsuit a week ago from 50+ places saying his logic is not based on scientific evidence. Never mind that he refuses to give the Covid data to people because we are too stupid to understand it.

Bottom line, this guy (and his cronies in Los Angeles) have ruined hundreds of thousands of jobs, small businesses and also let, on his reign, an incredible $8 BILLION dollar *yes, EIGHT BILLION DOLLAR) unemployment fraud scheme on his watch in 2020.  Not to mention, buying a BILLION dollars worth of masks from China (really?). 

Sadly, it is going to take a long time to get things even remotely fixed and right here in Los Angeles with Newsom and Garcetti's disasters.


Notes


https://deadline.com/2021/01/gavin-newsom-california-wont-disclose-key-covid-19-shutdown-data-1234678672/


https://kmph.com/news/local/court-demands-response-from-gov-newsom-on-church-lawsuit


https://www.foxla.com/news/nail-hair-salons-join-la-restaurant-in-lawsuit-against-newsom-over-outdoor-dining-ban





Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: chaos on January 26, 2021, 05:33:49 PM
Finally, after the recall efforts reaches 1.2 million votes, and it will get on the ballot, this guy decides to open up California. Never mind the lawsuit a week ago from 50+ places saying his logic is not based on scientific evidence. Never mind that he refuses to give the Covid data to people because we are too stupid to understand it.

Bottom line, this guy (and his cronies in Los Angeles) have ruined hundreds of thousands of jobs, small businesses and also let, on his reign, an incredible $8 BILLION dollar *yes, EIGHT BILLION DOLLAR) unemployment fraud scheme on his watch in 2020.  Not to mention, buying a BILLION dollars worth of masks from China (really?). 

Sadly, it is going to take a long time to get things even remotely fixed and right here in Los Angeles with Newsom and Garcetti's disasters.

Notes

https://deadline.com/2021/01/gavin-newsom-california-wont-disclose-key-covid-19-shutdown-data-1234678672/

That guy is a scumbag, Ron. Needs to be strung and quartered. :D
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on January 26, 2021, 05:40:00 PM
That guy is a scumbag, Ron. Needs to be strung and quartered. :D

No, violence is never the answer.  He needs to be exposed for his corrupt dealings, and his politic motives behind hurting so many people and small businesses and restaurants over illogical whims. He needs to be reminded that he failed California, and Los Angeles and the counties around us in his crazy 'lockdown' that not only did not work in November-December, but it accelerated Covid by making people be together in one household (he forgets that just because he lives in a 9 acre estate in a mansion, most people in Los Angeles County live in apartments and smaller houses.  These lawsuits must go on until he stops hiding and not giving out public data, and hiding behind secrets deals.  Sadly, since California is a liberal 70% Democrat state, he and his cronies can get away with it here.

If it was opposite, and their was a Republican governor at the helm, people would be protesting all over and going crazy.

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: chaos on January 26, 2021, 05:41:46 PM
No, violence is never the answer. 
Give violence a chance!!

No, violence is never the answer.  He needs to be exposed for his corrupt dealings, and his politic motives behind hurting so many people and small businesses and restaurants over illogical whims. He needs to be reminded that he failed California, and Los Angeles and the counties around us in his crazy 'lockdown' that not only did not work in November-December, but it accelerated Covid by making people be together in one household (he forgets that just because he lives in a 9 acre estate in a mansion, most people in Los Angeles County live in apartments and smaller houses.  These lawsuits must go on until he stops hiding and not giving out public data, and hiding behind secrets deals.  Sadly, since California is a liberal 70% Democrat state, he and his cronies can get away with it here.

If it was opposite, and their was a Republican governor at the helm, people would be protesting all over and going crazy.


I guess exposure and prison time is a possibility too.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Matt on January 26, 2021, 05:46:33 PM
Finally, after the recall efforts reaches 1.2 million votes, and it will get on the ballot, this guy decides to open up California. Never mind the lawsuit a week ago from 50+ places saying his logic is not based on scientific evidence. Never mind that he refuses to give the Covid data to people because we are too stupid to understand it.

Bottom line, this guy (and his cronies in Los Angeles) have ruined hundreds of thousands of jobs, small businesses and also let, on his reign, an incredible $8 BILLION dollar *yes, EIGHT BILLION DOLLAR) unemployment fraud scheme on his watch in 2020.  Not to mention, buying a BILLION dollars worth of masks from China (really?). 

Sadly, it is going to take a long time to get things even remotely fixed and right here in Los Angeles with Newsom and Garcetti's disasters.


Notes


https://deadline.com/2021/01/gavin-newsom-california-wont-disclose-key-covid-19-shutdown-data-1234678672/


https://kmph.com/news/local/court-demands-response-from-gov-newsom-on-church-lawsuit


https://www.foxla.com/news/nail-hair-salons-join-la-restaurant-in-lawsuit-against-newsom-over-outdoor-dining-ban

Forgive me for saying this...

But if your governor was executed for treason and his corpse hung upside down in the Town Square, Mussolini-style, I would not be mad.

I would NEVER suggest anyone cause this man harm - I'm just saying...I wouldn't be sad if a scenario like that unfolded.

I believe that statement is legal, lol.

But on a completely serious note:

What a dick.

Ron, looks like your state and my province are both on a race to the bottom.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: WeightPSHR on January 26, 2021, 06:26:49 PM
No, violence is never the answer.  He needs to be exposed for his corrupt dealings, and his politic motives behind hurting so many people and small businesses and restaurants over illogical whims. He needs to be reminded that he failed California, and Los Angeles and the counties around us in his crazy 'lockdown' that not only did not work in November-December, but it accelerated Covid by making people be together in one household (he forgets that just because he lives in a 9 acre estate in a mansion, most people in Los Angeles County live in apartments and smaller houses.  These lawsuits must go on until he stops hiding and not giving out public data, and hiding behind secrets deals.  Sadly, since California is a liberal 70% Democrat state, he and his cronies can get away with it here.

If it was opposite, and their was a Republican governor at the helm, people would be protesting all over and going crazy.

Newscum is the biggest scumbag of all the career politicians. He also kept schools closed while his kids attended in-person schooling in a swanky private scool.

No surprise he's got family ties to Pelosi. He's been caught cheating on his wife, not adhering to his stay at home orders, and he lied about the escapades at the Napa CA restaurant, stating he was outdoors until he got caught.

This guy is a slimy, career politician. No surprise.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 26, 2021, 10:08:48 PM
While case and hospitalization numbers are indeed falling, the number of daily deaths attributed to the virus has remained stubbornly high,



Nope, the shut downs weren't politically motivated at all.  ::)

Democrats and their supporters are the biggest pieces of shit around. Period.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 26, 2021, 10:16:32 PM
The GOP's only job should be to expose the left for the shutdowns but they don't have any spine. The news will be blaming Trump for $4 gas in 2023.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Moontrane on January 26, 2021, 10:27:27 PM
Finally, after the recall efforts reaches 1.2 million votes, and it will get on the ballot, this guy decides to open up California. Never mind the lawsuit a week ago from 50+ places saying his logic is not based on scientific evidence. Never mind that he refuses to give the Covid data to people because we are too stupid to understand it.

Bottom line, this guy (and his cronies in Los Angeles) have ruined hundreds of thousands of jobs, small businesses and also let, on his reign, an incredible $8 BILLION dollar *yes, EIGHT BILLION DOLLAR) unemployment fraud scheme on his watch in 2020.  Not to mention, buying a BILLION dollars worth of masks from China (really?). 

Sadly, it is going to take a long time to get things even remotely fixed and right here in Los Angeles with Newsom and Garcetti's disasters.

Notes

https://deadline.com/2021/01/gavin-newsom-california-wont-disclose-key-covid-19-shutdown-data-1234678672/

https://kmph.com/news/local/court-demands-response-from-gov-newsom-on-church-lawsuit

https://www.foxla.com/news/nail-hair-salons-join-la-restaurant-in-lawsuit-against-newsom-over-outdoor-dining-ban

Our Dear Leader has only rescinded the stay-at-home order.  The damage to businesses, students, and citizens continues.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 26, 2021, 10:28:21 PM
No, violence is never the answer.  He needs to be exposed for his corrupt dealings, and his politic motives behind hurting so many people and small businesses and restaurants over illogical whims. He needs to be reminded that he failed California, and Los Angeles and the counties around us in his crazy 'lockdown' that not only did not work in November-December, but it accelerated Covid by making people be together in one household (he forgets that just because he lives in a 9 acre estate in a mansion, most people in Los Angeles County live in apartments and smaller houses.  These lawsuits must go on until he stops hiding and not giving out public data, and hiding behind secrets deals.  Sadly, since California is a liberal 70% Democrat state, he and his cronies can get away with it here.

If it was opposite, and their was a Republican governor at the helm, people would be protesting all over and going crazy.

Ron, the revised estimates are that the unemployment scam that occurred on Newsom and Julie Su’s watch could total $20 BILLION DOLLARS.

It was over $13.4 BILLION DOLLARS as of this morning.

And I guarantee it will be swept under the rug, Julie Su will take a spot in the Biden administration, the nation’s taxpayers will pay for the mess, and 70% of Californians will still vote Democrat.

If nothing changes now with regard to the recall, nothing will ever change in CA politics.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Iron-Muscle on January 27, 2021, 01:14:20 AM
^ the google-king weighs in with his worthless opinion and data
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 27, 2021, 02:03:31 AM
No, violence is never the answer.  He needs to be exposed for his corrupt dealings, and his politic motives behind hurting so many people and small businesses and restaurants over illogical whims. He needs to be reminded that he failed California, and Los Angeles and the counties around us in his crazy 'lockdown' that not only did not work in November-December, but it accelerated Covid by making people be together in one household (he forgets that just because he lives in a 9 acre estate in a mansion, most people in Los Angeles County live in apartments and smaller houses.  These lawsuits must go on until he stops hiding and not giving out public data, and hiding behind secrets deals.  Sadly, since California is a liberal 70% Democrat state, he and his cronies can get away with it here.

If it was opposite, and their was a Republican governor at the helm, people would be protesting all over and going crazy.

Violence is never the answer?

That's why these clowns went nuts over the last 7 months, they weren't met with any serious violent resistance. 
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on February 28, 2021, 09:29:17 AM

Recall Newsom - the destroyer of small business in California!
 
Newsom is lucky that while destroying businessess and people in the 'name' of covid, the top wealthy taxpayers gave the state $15 BILLION DOLLARS in extra revenue. But since now, quite a few of them area leaving California, the 'tax' funding won't be there again and again.

Incredibly, gyms and restaurants STILL CANNOT have people eating inside here in Los Angeles and other California counties, only outside (and that started 2 weeks ago).  More and more restaurants (small business) are just out and closed. Sad. 

From CPAC about Newsom

https://rumble.com/ve7sg3-richard-grenell-has-savage-message-for-gavin-newsom.html

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Dave D on February 28, 2021, 10:02:33 AM
The GOP's only job should be to expose the left for the shutdowns but they don't have any spine. The news will be blaming Trump for $4 gas in 2023.

Lol at gas being under $4 until 2023. CA is teetering on that price point today.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: chaos on February 28, 2021, 10:08:01 AM
Recall Newsom - the destroyer of small business in California!
 
Newsom is lucky that while destroying businessess and people in the 'name' of covid, the top wealthy taxpayers gave the state $15 BILLION DOLLARS in extra revenue. But since now, quite a few of them area leaving California, the 'tax' funding won't be there again and again.

Incredibly, gyms and restaurants STILL CANNOT have people eating inside here in Los Angeles and other California counties, only outside (and that started 2 weeks ago).  More and more restaurants (small business) are just out and closed. Sad. 

From CPAC about Newsom

https://rumble.com/ve7sg3-richard-grenell-has-savage-message-for-gavin-newsom.html
Had breakfast inside a restaurant this morning, Riverside county.

Lol at gas being under $4 until 2023. CA is teetering on that price point today.
Paid $3.94 for "supreme" this morning.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Dave D on February 28, 2021, 10:14:02 AM
Had breakfast inside a restaurant this morning, Riverside county.
Paid $3.94 for "supreme" this morning.

Prices are between $3.50 and $3.75 for regular in the IE.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: chaos on February 28, 2021, 10:17:13 AM
Prices are between $3.50 and $3.75 for regular in the IE.
I didn't fill up out there. Prices have gone up in the last few weeks.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Matt on March 01, 2021, 12:52:44 AM
While case and hospitalization numbers are indeed falling, the number of daily deaths attributed to the virus has remained stubbornly high,



Nope, the shut downs weren't politically motivated at all.  ::)

Democrats and their supporters are the biggest pieces of shit around. Period.

Do you know one person who has died of COVID?

Neither so I.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Ron on March 01, 2021, 07:30:21 PM
Do you know one person who has died of COVID? Neither so I.

I do.  A few people. Older. Covid, at it's extreme, makes it hard to breath in older, overweight or various people, which in turns brings on other illnesses.  In two cases we know, they both got pneumonia.  Myself having it, the final 3 days were the hardest when it went into the chest, and made it hard to breath deeply without coughing.

Because of Newsom's lockdown orders, this spread like wildfire here, as people could not escape being together in close quarters.  One family member got it, it was given to all in the household, because they could not leave or go anywhere.


 
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 01, 2021, 07:49:47 PM
Do you know one person who has died of COVID?

Neither so I.

I know a guy i grew up with that died of Covid, 8 days after his mother died.

He was 43 and a little heavy but nothing crazy.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: tacobender on March 01, 2021, 07:56:52 PM
These fucking masks cause pneumonia it’s all moisture my father passed away on feb 6 he had diabetes for many many years all of his organs were not functioning properly he had cholesterol issues he was not overweight that was the cause of his death he used to be a smoker he quit he was in the hospital for almost a month the reason he passed was because of pro long issues of course Covid was the reason I’m sure It didn’t help but it’s bullshit we had him cremated we didn’t get to see his body we didn’t get closure because of the mortuary place that took over They claimed they were backed up which is bullshit again eventually his body decomposed we could not see him on Valentine’s Day before they cremated him what a horrible experience but fuck all the bullshit about Covid it’s just a $ sign. He was a only 63  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: tacobender on March 01, 2021, 07:59:02 PM
They treated him and us like shit in JFK Indio ca
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 01, 2021, 07:59:45 PM
I know a guy i grew up with that died of Covid, 8 days after is mother died.

He was 43 and a little heavy but nothing crazy.

Only the guy who died would know what truly contributed to him dying of covid.

100% guarantee he something that exasperated the covid symptoms.

Not trying to he a jerk, but covid doesn't kill healthy people.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Moontrane on March 01, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
I do.  A few people. Older. Covid, at it's extreme, makes it hard to breath in older, overweight or various people, which in turns brings on other illnesses.  In two cases we know, they both got pneumonia.  Myself having it, the final 3 days were the hardest when it went into the chest, and made it hard to breath deeply without coughing.

Because of Newsom's lockdown orders, this spread like wildfire here, as people could not escape being together in close quarters.  One family member got it, it was given to all in the household, because they could not leave or go anywhere.

>1.8M signatures so far, the goal being 2M.  We don't have an Arnold, so it will likely be quite the free-for-all.  (I miss Gary Coleman.  :'()

Newsom hasn't even commented on the recall.

https://recallgavin2020.com/
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 01, 2021, 08:33:39 PM
Only the guy who died would know what truly contributed to him dying of covid.

100% guarantee he something that exasperated the covid symptoms.

Not trying to he a jerk, but covid doesn't kill healthy people.

Yeah no problem, i don't doubt any of that. But i do know people who died of "Covid". There was most likely more to it.

I also know a dozen people who got it and were sick for a few days, then made full recovery.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 02, 2021, 06:25:55 PM
How does Newsom get away with this crap.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/newsom-blasts-abbott-for-reopening-texas-absolutely-reckless

 FL and TX have lower Covid infection and death rates, but he feels entitled to call out two states who have obviously done better with much less restrictions.

Maybe someone should let him know Covid has a 2% morbidity rate and most high risk have been vaccinated.

Gig is up on this fake anti-trump virus.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2021, 06:28:16 PM
These fucking masks cause pneumonia it’s all moisture my father passed away on feb 6 he had diabetes for many many years all of his organs were not functioning properly he had cholesterol issues he was not overweight that was the cause of his death he used to be a smoker he quit he was in the hospital for almost a month the reason he passed was because of pro long issues of course Covid was the reason I’m sure It didn’t help but it’s bullshit we had him cremated we didn’t get to see his body we didn’t get closure because of the mortuary place that took over They claimed they were backed up which is bullshit again eventually his body decomposed we could not see him on Valentine’s Day before they cremated him what a horrible experience but fuck all the bullshit about Covid it’s just a $ sign. He was a only 63  :'( :'( :'( :'(


Sorry man.  That’s horrible
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Tapeworm on March 02, 2021, 07:32:02 PM
People who don't give a fuck about you cancel your rights whenever they choose and enforce any made up mandate at gunpoint. I don't consider that legitimate governance.

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Straw Man on March 02, 2021, 08:04:15 PM
I do.  A few people. Older. Covid, at it's extreme, makes it hard to breath in older, overweight or various people, which in turns brings on other illnesses.  In two cases we know, they both got pneumonia.  Myself having it, the final 3 days were the hardest when it went into the chest, and made it hard to breath deeply without coughing.

Because of Newsom's lockdown orders, this spread like wildfire here, as people could not escape being together in close quarters.  One family member got it, it was given to all in the household, because they could not leave or go anywhere.

tell us exactly how lockdown made it "spread like wildfire"
without lockdown the same people would be living in the same household... the only difference is instead of just infecting their family they would have infected a bunch of other people AS WELL

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Dave D on March 02, 2021, 08:29:54 PM
tell us exactly how lockdown made it "spread like wildfire"
without lockdown the same people would be living in the same household... the only difference is instead of just infecting their family they would have infected a bunch of other people AS WELL

California's numbers have been up despite lockdowns, masks, etc.... so based on the evidence lockdowns dont work.
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 03, 2021, 03:47:06 AM
You guys probably know but Texas and Mississippi are fully open with no masks. No restriction on any business.   
Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 03, 2021, 06:02:01 AM
Here you go Ron. This is why he wasn’t worried about loss of tax revenue:

Title: Re: California - Gov Newsom - Enough is Enough! Time to Open Up
Post by: Tapeworm on March 03, 2021, 09:15:56 AM
Hey if you thought all those people who lost their jobs and businesses to ass conjured laws had it rough what about all the poor government employees!