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Title: Protests - Why riot, loot and attack?
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 06, 2020, 06:46:13 AM
Here's my take and I'd like to read what your view/responses are surrounding these events. Remember, this is only my opinion, please don't take offense and assume I am trying to downplay our current reality.

I don't believe these protests have as much to do with George Floyd as many are making it out to be. By many, I mean the mainstream media and certain small anti-government groups that are trying to make this man a martyr. I think these protests are truly due to a culmination of many things at play that are simply being united by a perfect storm of cascading events. Let me explain.

Regarding George Floyd (aka Floyd the Landlord), the fact stands that every American regardless of race, color or cultural background deserves a fair trial in court, if a crime is committed. The issue surrounding George Floyd is not whether he was an upstanding individual worthy of becoming a martyr for a cause. On the contrary, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen. He was a regular guy, working a few jobs, that had done some porn and been arrested a few times, who apparently was trying to purchase items at a local store with counterfeit money. The major issue here is not whether he was a hero or someone of value in the African American community, but instead that as a black American, he, like many other black Americans, got killed after receiving a trial that occurred at a street corner under the unilateral pressure of four white-colored shins. African Americans and minorities alike aren't making t-shirts with George Floyd on them to suggest he was some type of hero, instead George Floyd stands as a symbol of what's wrong with America today. George Floyd can be anyone, you can exchange George Floyd for George Jefferson and it wouldn't make a difference. It's not so much about the individual that was killed or the fact that he was troubled with a heavy criminal past, instead it's about the fact that we've seen this story play out many, many times again over the last 400 years. What started hundreds of years ago via small backwoods displays with tools involving trees, ropes in the form of nooses or sometimes knives and bullets, has now been simplified to even that of choke-holds and asphyxiation techniques, but is being aired on national media outlets. The fact that, more times than not, law enforcement would disarm and arrest a white criminal following a heinous crime in order to arrive at a fair trial in court, but would probably execute said criminal on the spot if they were black and found to have committed the same heinous act is where the problem lies behind the Floyd (or insert any African American's last name who has been assassinated by cops) case.

What do I really feel are the key ingredients that brought about these protests? Again, going back to what my sentiments have been for quite some time now, I believe it's due to the following events all culminating in civil unrest:


These are the elements that I think mainly contribute to what is occurring now within our city streets. George Floyd was the necessary catalyst that was needed to light the gasoline trail in order to burn the system down. Because of the aforementioned elements being at play is why I don't think Floyd's killing was as big of a deal as the media is making it out to be. I believe that if not for the last 3 months' worth of stay-at-home orders and the fact that people were going stir crazy and dying for an opportunity to unleash/show their dissatisfaction with our government and leaders, that this wouldn't be happening. If Floyd would have been killed a year ago, under the same circumstances, there might have been some local protests in Minneapolis, but I doubt it would have become a worldwide phenomenon as it has now. A year ago, people would have been too busy with work, consumerist culture, social influencers and their own private struggles to care so much about a random African American.

Like all things, this will lead to change. The Civil rights act came to fruition after people rioted for days following the death of Martin Luther King. These events will undoubtedly lead to some level of civil rights and law enforcement reform.

What I still can't understand is why the rioting/looting is also occurring in inner-city neighborhoods that are mostly inhabited by minorities. You see, with the exception of the major outlets like Target, Walmart etc, the vast majority of those community businesses are owned by local business owners (African American, Asian, Arab and Hispanic). By destroying those businesses, the looters are helping the same system they are trying to protest against. They are serving as the strong-armed Uncle Toms beating on the other field negros. By destroying those businesses, they are pushing resources out of their communities, pushing away local job creators and further paving the way for Target and Walmart to expand deeper into their communities, which will then lead to more gentrification, which is what I thought they were also trying to stop. All of which makes me wonder if those particular people (looters destroying their own communities) are just too stupid to realize how badly they fuck themselves in the process.

In any case, what are your views? I'd like to know where you stand.

"1"
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: escrima on June 06, 2020, 06:49:30 AM
Here's my take and I'd like to read what your view/responses are surrounding these events. Remember, this is only my opinion, please don't take offense and assume I am trying to downplay our current reality.

I don't believe these protests have as much to do with George Floyd as many are making it out to be. By many, I mean the mainstream media and certain small anti-government groups that are trying to make this man a martyr. I think these protests are truly due to a culmination of many things at play that are simply being united by a perfect storm of cascading events. Let me explain.

Regarding George Floyd (aka Floyd the Landlord), the fact stands that every American regardless of race, color or cultural background deserves a fair trial in court, if a crime is committed. The issue surrounding George Floyd is not whether he was an upstanding individual worthy of becoming a martyr for a cause. On the contrary, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen. He was a regular guy, working a few jobs, that had done some porn and been arrested a few times, who apparently was trying to purchase items at a local store with counterfeit money. The major issue here is not whether he was a hero or someone of value in the African American community, but instead that as a black American, he, like many other black Americans, got killed after receiving a trial that occurred at a street corner under the unilateral pressure of four white-colored shins. African Americans and minorities alike aren't making t-shirts with George Floyd on them to suggest he was some type of hero, instead George Floyd stands as a symbol of what's wrong with America today. George Floyd can be anyone, you can exchange George Floyd for George Jefferson and it wouldn't make a difference. It's not so much about the individual that was killed or the fact that he was troubled with a heavy criminal past, instead it's about the fact that we've seen this story play out many, many times again over the last 400 years. What started hundreds of years ago via small backwoods displays with tools involving trees, ropes in the form of nooses or sometimes knives and bullets, has now been simplified to even that of choke-holds and asphyxiation techniques, but is being aired on national media outlets. The fact that, more times than not, law enforcement would disarm and arrest a white criminal following a heinous crime in order to arrive at a fair trial in court, but would probably execute said criminal on the spot if they were black and found to have committed the same heinous act is where the problem lies behind the Floyd (or insert any African American's last name who has been assassinated by cops) case.

What do I really feel are the key ingredients that brought about these protests? Again, going back to what my sentiments have been for quite some time now, I believe it's due to the following events all culminating in civil unrest:

  • Worldwide pandemic
  • Death of hundreds of thousands
  • Governments that don't know enough or are not being completely truthful with their citizens about this disease
  • Tanking of world economy
  • Millions losing jobs
  • Social & economic injustice running rampant (particularly rich vs poor, regardless of race)
  • Sleeper cells of people that were already tired and disgusted with this capitalistic system that favors the dirty rich or dirty poor, but crushes the struggling middle class
  • Racial inequality as seen with the numerous cases of black homicides over the years by the hands of law enforcement and government
  • The presence of many mentally unstable people (think psychopaths) and former convicts that have been sitting around waiting for an event like this to let loose
  • Various internal terrorist groups like Antifa that are anti-fascism, but are very cleverly doing their part to incite violent riots

These are the elements that I think mainly contribute to what is occurring now within our city streets. George Floyd was the necessary catalyst that was needed to light the gasoline trail in order to burn the system down. Because of the aforementioned elements being at play is why I don't think Floyd's killing was as big of a deal as the media is making it out to be. I believe that if not for the last 3 months' worth of stay-at-home orders and the fact that people were going stir crazy and dying for an opportunity to unleash/show their dissatisfaction with our government and leaders, that this wouldn't be happening. If Floyd would have been killed a year ago, under the same circumstances, there might have been some local protests in Minneapolis, but I doubt it would have become a worldwide phenomenon as it has now. A year ago, people would have been too busy with work, consumerist culture, social influencers and their own private struggles to care so much about a random African American.

Like all things, this will lead to change. The Civil rights act came to fruition after people rioted for days following the death of Martin Luther King. These events will undoubtedly lead to some level of civil rights and law enforcement reform.

What I still can't understand is why the rioting/looting is also occurring in inner-city neighborhoods that are mostly inhabited by minorities. You see, with the exception of the major outlets like Target, Walmart etc, the vast majority of those community businesses are owned by local business owners (African American, Asian, Arab and Hispanic). By destroying those businesses, the looters are helping the same system they are trying to protest against. They are serving as the strong-armed Uncle Toms beating on the other field negros. By destroying those businesses, they are pushing resources out of their communities, pushing away local job creators and further paving the way for Target and Walmart to expand deeper into their communities, which will then lead to more gentrification, which is what I thought they were also trying to stop. All of which makes me wonder if those particular people (looters destroying their own communities) are just too stupid to realize how badly they fuck themselves in the process.

In any case, what are your views? I'd like to know where you stand.

"1"
One name George soros
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: IroNat on June 06, 2020, 08:21:02 AM
The looting is about getting free stuff.

The rioting happens when you get a whole bunch of stressed out people together in large groups.

The mob. 
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: friedchickendinner on June 06, 2020, 08:26:55 AM
Im not a black man so i wouldnt try to understand and neither should you

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: hardgainerj on June 06, 2020, 08:28:01 AM
heres good-goy taylor take

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Kwon on June 06, 2020, 08:29:35 AM
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Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: hardgainerj on June 06, 2020, 08:30:06 AM
Im not a black man so i wouldnt try to understand and neither should you
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Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: LMV on June 06, 2020, 08:33:19 AM

it is an election year -> trump must go

covid , "racism"  riots => perfect storm

they will drag this out as much as they can

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Kwon on June 06, 2020, 08:35:09 AM
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Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: RK on June 06, 2020, 08:40:12 AM
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Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 06, 2020, 08:42:03 AM
One, not gonna quote your post (because it was on Matt levels of length  ;D) but everything you said is pretty much spot on, other than it being four white shins on the dude. Looking at the pics of the officers, at least two were not what we would call “white”.

The first point under your bullet points is spot on. The collective subconscious or whatever you want to call it, is going crazy with all of the lockdown and panic. Solid post as usual.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: RK on June 06, 2020, 08:46:29 AM
Looting is transition to freedom
 Deal with it and shut up
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 06, 2020, 08:53:10 AM
The events that lead to where we are today is NOT a coincidence.  IMO, it was all planned that way... it's just too perfect.

The left is exploiting a false narrative to drive a socialist/communist agenda.  Blacks need to realize they are being used as tools by the left.  Most of them will never realize this.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Megalodon on June 06, 2020, 08:56:15 AM
1 Black, 1 Asian, and 2 Whites

are the new 4 white-colored  ???


(https://i.postimg.cc/qB61vSb8/images-21.jpg)


(https://i.postimg.cc/mDrvtjc0/20200604-arrested-reuters.jpg)

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: che on June 06, 2020, 08:57:54 AM
(https://scontent.farn2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/103103429_10157333675568061_7238977884389677189_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=d-9s_5j90ykAX_VroHS&_nc_ht=scontent.farn2-1.fna&oh=983d6000db84e6abec728d92bb211b08&oe=5F01B303)

Impossible , my kid was in my basement playing video games at the moment of arrest . ::)
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Henda on June 06, 2020, 09:01:11 AM
Looting completely negates any point they are pretending they are trying to prove and lowers them down to absolute human garbage barely any better than rapists and peadophiles, I truly wish every case of mass looting the response was for the military to turn up with automatic weapons and spray bullets till everything ceases to move, fucking vile worthless filthy animals that serve no purpose in civilised society so deserve to be wiped out
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 06, 2020, 09:04:39 AM
Looting is transition to freedom
 Deal with it and shut up

Like the blacks who are rioting, you're being used as a tool by rich Jewish bankers that own the world to help them maintain their power and control. 

Please stop raging, take a breath and try some critical thinking for a change.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: RK on June 06, 2020, 09:22:40 AM
Like the blacks who are rioting, you're being used as a tool by rich Jewish bankers that own the world to help them maintain their power and control. 

Please stop raging, take a breath and try some critical thinking for a change.

 You're overcomplicating things. That's how the U.S. run
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: BB on June 06, 2020, 09:28:23 AM


What I still can't understand is why the rioting/looting is also occurring in inner-city neighborhoods that are mostly inhabited by minorities. You see, with the exception of the major outlets like Target, Walmart etc, the vast majority of those community businesses are owned by local business owners (African American, Asian, Arab and Hispanic). By destroying those businesses, the looters are helping the same system they are trying to protest against. They are serving as the strong-armed Uncle Toms beating on the other field negros. By destroying those businesses, they are pushing resources out of their communities, pushing away local job creators and further paving the way for Target and Walmart to expand deeper into their communities, which will then lead to more gentrification, which is what I thought they were also trying to stop. All of which makes me wonder if those particular people (looters destroying their own communities) are just too stupid to realize how badly they fuck themselves in the process.

In any case, what are your views? I'd like to know where you stand.

"1"

These guys just want free stuff or they're living out a violent fantasy. I read a lot of rap music message boards, etc...., and all it comes down to on the young black side is that they want free shit. They'll maybe write 2-3 lines about being mad at the police, then paragraphs lamenting that they couldn't make it to the looting of Gucci, or running totals of what they've seen or stolen from Nike, Supreme, etc.... They know that no one is probably going to get in trouble for it, so why not wild out. If anyone older talks about gentrification, the stealing being wrong, etc..... it's "Shut up nigg-a, you a c-oon" or some lame attempt to justify it claiming that people are angry, and stuff is just stuff.

On the white side, it's a mix of kids thieving for profit, thieving to be down, and just wanting to live out some GTA fantasy of a lawless society.

Also one thing none of these young people of any race get is that it always costs money to rebuild anything. They all figure that "insurance will fix it"  ::) :(.



Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 06, 2020, 09:32:01 AM
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Word is out about who he really was: A POS.

It’s back to Corona.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: el numero uno on June 06, 2020, 09:38:44 AM
Here's my take and I'd like to read what your view/responses are surrounding these events. Remember, this is only my opinion, please don't take offense and assume I am trying to downplay our current reality.

I don't believe these protests have as much to do with George Floyd as many are making it out to be. By many, I mean the mainstream media and certain small anti-government groups that are trying to make this man a martyr. I think these protests are truly due to a culmination of many things at play that are simply being united by a perfect storm of cascading events. Let me explain.

Regarding George Floyd (aka Floyd the Landlord), the fact stands that every American regardless of race, color or cultural background deserves a fair trial in court, if a crime is committed. The issue surrounding George Floyd is not whether he was an upstanding individual worthy of becoming a martyr for a cause. On the contrary, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen. He was a regular guy, working a few jobs, that had done some porn and been arrested a few times, who apparently was trying to purchase items at a local store with counterfeit money. The major issue here is not whether he was a hero or someone of value in the African American community, but instead that as a black American, he, like many other black Americans, got killed after receiving a trial that occurred at a street corner under the unilateral pressure of four white-colored shins. African Americans and minorities alike aren't making t-shirts with George Floyd on them to suggest he was some type of hero, instead George Floyd stands as a symbol of what's wrong with America today. George Floyd can be anyone, you can exchange George Floyd for George Jefferson and it wouldn't make a difference. It's not so much about the individual that was killed or the fact that he was troubled with a heavy criminal past, instead it's about the fact that we've seen this story play out many, many times again over the last 400 years. What started hundreds of years ago via small backwoods displays with tools involving trees, ropes in the form of nooses or sometimes knives and bullets, has now been simplified to even that of choke-holds and asphyxiation techniques, but is being aired on national media outlets. The fact that, more times than not, law enforcement would disarm and arrest a white criminal following a heinous crime in order to arrive at a fair trial in court, but would probably execute said criminal on the spot if they were black and found to have committed the same heinous act is where the problem lies behind the Floyd (or insert any African American's last name who has been assassinated by cops) case.

What do I really feel are the key ingredients that brought about these protests? Again, going back to what my sentiments have been for quite some time now, I believe it's due to the following events all culminating in civil unrest:

  • Worldwide pandemic
  • Death of hundreds of thousands
  • Governments that don't know enough or are not being completely truthful with their citizens about this disease
  • Tanking of world economy
  • Millions losing jobs
  • Social & economic injustice running rampant (particularly rich vs poor, regardless of race)
  • Sleeper cells of people that were already tired and disgusted with this capitalistic system that favors the dirty rich or dirty poor, but crushes the struggling middle class
  • Racial inequality as seen with the numerous cases of black homicides over the years by the hands of law enforcement and government
  • The presence of many mentally unstable people (think psychopaths) and former convicts that have been sitting around waiting for an event like this to let loose
  • Various internal terrorist groups like Antifa that are anti-fascism, but are very cleverly doing their part to incite violent riots

These are the elements that I think mainly contribute to what is occurring now within our city streets. George Floyd was the necessary catalyst that was needed to light the gasoline trail in order to burn the system down. Because of the aforementioned elements being at play is why I don't think Floyd's killing was as big of a deal as the media is making it out to be. I believe that if not for the last 3 months' worth of stay-at-home orders and the fact that people were going stir crazy and dying for an opportunity to unleash/show their dissatisfaction with our government and leaders, that this wouldn't be happening. If Floyd would have been killed a year ago, under the same circumstances, there might have been some local protests in Minneapolis, but I doubt it would have become a worldwide phenomenon as it has now. A year ago, people would have been too busy with work, consumerist culture, social influencers and their own private struggles to care so much about a random African American.

Like all things, this will lead to change. The Civil rights act came to fruition after people rioted for days following the death of Martin Luther King. These events will undoubtedly lead to some level of civil rights and law enforcement reform.

What I still can't understand is why the rioting/looting is also occurring in inner-city neighborhoods that are mostly inhabited by minorities. You see, with the exception of the major outlets like Target, Walmart etc, the vast majority of those community businesses are owned by local business owners (African American, Asian, Arab and Hispanic). By destroying those businesses, the looters are helping the same system they are trying to protest against. They are serving as the strong-armed Uncle Toms beating on the other field negros. By destroying those businesses, they are pushing resources out of their communities, pushing away local job creators and further paving the way for Target and Walmart to expand deeper into their communities, which will then lead to more gentrification, which is what I thought they were also trying to stop. All of which makes me wonder if those particular people (looters destroying their own communities) are just too stupid to realize how badly they fuck themselves in the process.

In any case, what are your views? I'd like to know where you stand.

"1"

I agree with most of the things you said.

I myself wanted to make a similar thread but I hesitated due to the racist and lunatics answers I guessed I'd get.

First off, for those lunatics that try to make the riots a conspiracy theory, fuck off lol.

Now, I think that although it's a collecction of many, many situations that lead to this, the root cause for the riots can be roughly summed up as a general perception of unfairness.

Key word, perception. It's not about facts, but about what people perceive the motivation for the riots.

Capitalist societies seem unfair in the eyes of poor people. Protestors in Chile* rioted after public transportation increased some USD 0.04, but not because the increase by itself, but because they perceive they live in an unfair society, where the rich is not paying their fair share. Again, this is about perception. Taxing the hell out of the rich won't solve poverty, but people think it will, and not doing it infuriates them.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%932020_Chilean_protests

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 06, 2020, 09:46:23 AM
One, not gonna quote your post (because it was on Matt levels of length  ;D) but everything you said is pretty much spot on, other than it being four white shins on the dude. Looking at the pics of the officers, at least two were not what we would call “white”.

You're absolutely right. My post was way too long and did resemble Matt's usual style, which I'm trying to leave in Matt's capable hands. Also, you're right in that only two of those cops were white.

Surprised the black community isn't making it a bigger fuss about the black and asian cop.

If you consider the black cop directly involved, almost makes you wonder whether black life mattered to him at all.

"1"
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: chaos on June 06, 2020, 09:51:24 AM
You're absolutely right. My post was way too long and did resemble Matt's usual style, which I'm trying to leave in Matt's capable hands. Also, you're right in that only two of those cops were white.

Surprised the black community isn't making it a bigger fuss about the black and asian cop.

If you consider the black cop directly involved, almost makes you wonder whether black life mattered to him at all.

"1"
No community would be making a big deal out of anything if the media didn't exploit and manipulate their emotions.
The media is our enemy.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 06, 2020, 09:54:50 AM
The poor in this country are the most obese people in the world. I saw a lot of the white protesters, tons of fat chicks. So, the idea that people here are deprived is a joke. By world standards, American poor live like kings.

Of course apologists for socialism will say these people don’t have access to good nutrition. So tell me to which food do they not have access? Eggs? Vegetables? Chicken? Pasta? That’s pretty much all I eat.

In NYC there are fruit stands in the street that have bags of 3 heads of romaine lettuce for $2.

The reality is that the Democratic Party has no choice but to play the race card. Without it, what do they have left? Policies, ideology and culture.

Socialist simply do not like the capitalist system and want to see it overthrown and look for every opportunity to do so. This is just the latest excuse.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 06, 2020, 09:57:41 AM
The reality is that the Democratic Party has no choice but to play the race card. Without it, what do they have left? Policies, ideology and culture.

Is there any foreseeable way for Trump to win re-election given the level of attack he has taken since the start of his presidency and further accentuated during 2020 in what looks to be dragged out all the way until November?

"1"
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 06, 2020, 09:59:41 AM
Is there any foreseeable way for Trump to win re-election given the level of attack he has taken since the start of his presidency and further accentuated during 2020 in what looks to be dragged out all the way until November?

"1"

Have you seen his opponent?😂😂😂😂

There’s a long way to go to November. How was Trump looking in June 2016?
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: chaos on June 06, 2020, 09:59:55 AM
Is there any foreseeable way for Trump to win re-election given the level of attack he has taken since the start of his presidency and further accentuated during 2020 in what looks to be dragged out all the way until November?

"1"
Maybe not in your area, but his support is massive throughout the country. I think he takes it easily, especially since the best the left has to offer is an old white guy with dementia that has promised to play the race card with a black chick as a running mate.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: BB on June 06, 2020, 10:06:40 AM
Is there any foreseeable way for Trump to win re-election given the level of attack he has taken since the start of his presidency and further accentuated during 2020 in what looks to be dragged out all the way until November?

"1"

One thing is for sure, Biden has won nothing from the unrest. Most still see him as a senile old relic. The big surprises may happen in the smaller offices. Trump isn't out of it, and he was smart to shift blame over to local officials. The people who hate him now, are the ones that have always hated him, I haven't seen a major shift of his fan base just yet.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 06, 2020, 10:10:43 AM
One thing is for sure, Biden has won nothing from the unrest. Most still see him as a senile old relic. The big surprises may happen in the smaller offices. Trump isn't out of it, and he was smart to shift blame over to local officials. The people who hate him now, are the ones that have always hated him, I haven't seen a major shift of his fan base just yet.

I believe this will backfire eventually on the Democrats. As I said in another thread, people value their safety above all. Democratic mayors and governors have demonstrated that they’re unable to maintain safe conditions for their citizens. That’s how Giuliani got elected mayor of New York City. There was no other reason.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: oldgolds on June 06, 2020, 10:17:03 AM
Dumb, paranoid Blacks  joining with White anarchists,  both want to destroy the existing society and rebuild it in their own way. If there IS a civil war they don't stand a chance as Republicans/conservatives own the guns and are the alpha males in society. Most military, cops  and warriers are on the right.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: chaos on June 06, 2020, 10:22:04 AM
What I see when I think of protestors.

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: che on June 06, 2020, 10:28:25 AM
Is there any foreseeable way for Trump to win re-election given the level of attack he has taken since the start of his presidency and further accentuated during 2020 in what looks to be dragged out all the way until November?

"1"
Trump will lose the election by a landslide  , his meltdown will be the worst meltdown  since Adonis losing Mr Getbig to whateva , I actually want Trump to win,  because if  Trump supporters are whining now when he is the president ,I can't imagine the whining if he loses the election.

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: The Keto Kid on June 06, 2020, 10:31:58 AM
Is this real?
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Megalodon on June 06, 2020, 10:38:09 AM
Is this real?

That's fake, although there was graffiti like this:

(https://i.postimg.cc/C5L7SM10/download-18.jpg)
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Rambone on June 06, 2020, 10:45:51 AM
I believe blacks are more racist than whites nowadays. We just had a black president for 8 years, many top actors, comedians and athletes are black and handsomely paid without whites making a stink. Hell, they’re the ones supplying their excessive paychecks. Racism was at the lowest level...well, before this shitfest that will only make everyone who is not black dislike their race even more.

Last year, more unarmed whites were killed in the hands of the police, so I don’t buy the media’s narrative and neither should anybody. This is about the upcoming election, votes and power. The funny thing is the blue cities and states have the most instance of excessive police force, yet they have done nothing to improve it.

Initially the left wanted businesses shutdown and a nationwide quarantine, and now they want giant protests with many not wearing masks while attempting to destroy the economy. The media and the left have been wrong about just about everything since the 2016 election. They have such a shitty candidate, and the only way they can boosts their votes is to make the VP a dark female. They want disruption and chaos. Plain and simple. It’s sad and disgusts me.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: escrima on June 06, 2020, 10:57:49 AM
Trump will lose the election by a landslide  , his meltdown will be the worst meltdown  since Adonis losing Mr Getbig to whateva , I actually want Trump to win,  because if  Trump supporters are whining now when he is the president ,I can't imagine the whining if he loses the election.
Trump has to win. If not it will be the destruction of the USA. A domino effect around the western world. Trump will win. :)
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: escrima on June 06, 2020, 11:02:05 AM
and that my friends is how serious the threat is to our civilization as we know it. 
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: hardgainerj on June 06, 2020, 11:46:15 AM
If anyone older talks about gentrification, the stealing being wrong, etc..... it's "Shut up nigg-a, you a c-oon" or some lame attempt to justify it claiming that people are angry, and stuff is just stuff.


i was anticipating 'muh dick' was the response
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Grape Ape on June 06, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
Trump will lose the election by a landslide  , his meltdown will be the worst meltdown  since Adonis losing Mr Getbig to whateva , I actually want Trump to win,  because if  Trump supporters are whining now when he is the president ,I can't imagine the whining if he loses the election.

I'll make it easy for you to imagine.

Take the whining the left currently does.

Cut it by 75%.

Done.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: che on June 06, 2020, 12:18:35 PM
I'll make it easy for you to imagine.

Take the whining the left currently does.

Cut it by 75%.

Done.

I was talking about Getbig , There are 100's of threads started by Trump supporters whining about whining
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Ssxa on June 06, 2020, 12:27:35 PM
I believe blacks are more racist than whites nowadays. We just had a black president for 8 years, many top actors, comedians and athletes are black and handsomely paid without whites making a stink. Hell, they’re the ones supplying their excessive paychecks. Racism was at the lowest level...well, before this shitfest that will only make everyone who is not black dislike their race even more.

Last year, more unarmed whites were killed in the hands of the police, so I don’t buy the media’s narrative and neither should anybody. This is about the upcoming election, votes and power. The funny thing is the blue cities and states have the most instance of excessive police force, yet they have done nothing to improve it.

Initially the left wanted businesses shutdown and a nationwide quarantine, and now they want giant protests with many not wearing masks while attempting to destroy the economy. The media and the left have been wrong about just about everything since the 2016 election. They have such a shitty candidate, and the only way they can boosts their votes is to make the VP a dark female. They want disruption and chaos. Plain and simple. It’s sad and disgusts me.

I was going to type a reply, but this hit all the points.
It boils down to agendas that are far above what most of the population can conceive. Most of the Democratic Party are part of it (with many not even being aware of it) and because the media essentially is a Democratic bought and running machine, the news that we are all subjected to and bombarded with daily is skewed in a way to push their agendas. The agenda? Get Trump out of office at all costs! Why? Because he is not part of the elite machine (that does include some corrupt Republicans too BTW). He is the one guy that can actually foil their plans, because he will actually look into wrong doings by the powers that be and that scares them.
The BLM is total bullshit, it’s a movement drummed up by and pushed by the media and has the backing of powerful, rich, many white, corrupt elites that want to get their agendas pushed. There are actually more whites and just as many Hispanics, Asians etc that suffer racial mistreatment by police, despite the fact that their actual total encounters are far below their black counterparts.
The fact that Drew Brees, who is one of the best “celebrities” among anyone, was and is being vilified for his comments by the media and his fellow athletes make me sick, and the fact that he was essentially bullied into apologizing is everything wrong with this country.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Bevo on June 06, 2020, 12:27:54 PM
A “regular guy” doesn’t have a rap sheet of constant criminal activities, a regular guy doesn’t do time in prison for armed robbery of a pregnant women

He’s dead, should have been back in 1998
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: IroNat on June 06, 2020, 12:31:35 PM
Is there any foreseeable way for Trump to win re-election given the level of attack he has taken since the start of his presidency and further accentuated during 2020 in what looks to be dragged out all the way until November?

"1"

Definitely.  Trump has to act the leader.  Can he do it?
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: MAXX on June 06, 2020, 12:32:58 PM
Is there any foreseeable way for Trump to win re-election given the level of attack he has taken since the start of his presidency and further accentuated during 2020 in what looks to be dragged out all the way until November?

"1"
it\s not like his opponents did good advertising for themselves during this BLM.

If i where to guess they probably lost more voters than they gained.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 06, 2020, 12:33:07 PM
Trump will lose the election by a landslide  , his meltdown will be the worst meltdown  since Adonis losing Mr Getbig to whateva , I actually want Trump to win,  because if  Trump supporters are whining now when he is the president ,I can't imagine the whining if he loses the election.

Trump will absolutely annihilate Joe Biden in the presidential debates and then win his second term in a huge landslide.

Democrats will cry for 4 more years, scream about Russian collusion, and try another fake impeachment attempt.

What is more important to our democracy is that the Obama holdovers who tried the coup attempt against President Trump in 2016-2018 must be put in prison. There has to be severe ramifications for what was done or the credibility of the federal government will be gone
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 06, 2020, 12:36:31 PM
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Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: robcguns on June 06, 2020, 12:49:35 PM
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FUCKFLOYD
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Bevo on June 06, 2020, 01:06:14 PM
because that is where they live by dent of history, economics, ..... this pattern is found all over the works regardless of culture race or absolute wealth
eg -the riots in England a few years ago sparked by a police shooting (the police shot ..) in an area already prone to heavy handed policing are a good example of looting in locatities as you suggest. In this case the looting became a predominantly white opportunist activity in poor white areas. Rioting is a common occurrence in the UK and almost (always?)  always triggered by heavy handed police containment / suppression. 

 “A riot is the language of the unheard,”
ML King

I don’t know about you, but I couldn’t care less or give a shit about all that, I just want a 60 inch flat screen tv and some Jordan’s
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: IroNat on June 06, 2020, 01:12:38 PM
I don’t know about you, but I couldn’t care less or give a shit about all that, I just want a 60 inch flat screen tv and some Jordan’s

Finally, an honest man.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 06, 2020, 01:18:33 PM
(https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2020/06/NINTCHDBPICT000587523824.jpg)

This is what happens to senile old bags of phag like Primehomosexual when they go protesting. 
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 06, 2020, 01:40:33 PM
(https://scontent.farn2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/103103429_10157333675568061_7238977884389677189_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=d-9s_5j90ykAX_VroHS&_nc_ht=scontent.farn2-1.fna&oh=983d6000db84e6abec728d92bb211b08&oe=5F01B303)

During the robbery he allegedly pointed his gun at her pregnant belly.  Allegedly, I can't confirm if this is a fact or not.

It doesn't excuse what the police did to him, but it adds some additional context to this hero that the left is trying to create.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: oldgolds on June 06, 2020, 02:08:21 PM
Trump will lose the election by a landslide  , his meltdown will be the worst meltdown  since Adonis losing Mr Getbig to whateva , I actually want Trump to win,  because if  Trump supporters are whining now when he is the president ,I can't imagine the whining if he loses the election.






Dude, you are crazy. 70% of this country is White and Whites want order and law and public safety, plus Biden is a complete waste of a Man. This unrest is an enormous boon to Trump.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: RK on June 06, 2020, 02:10:53 PM
wtf?
(https://sun9-63.userapi.com/lfJeYNPLO0rNoQcl_iRdb11RvB2ddZ7bbSThOQ/kVuAMxGLyPw.jpg)
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 06, 2020, 02:22:20 PM
because that is where they live by dent of history, economics, ..... this pattern is found all over the works regardless of culture race or absolute wealth
eg -the riots in England a few years ago sparked by a police shooting (the police shot ..) in an area already prone to heavy handed policing are a good example of looting in locatities as you suggest. In this case the looting became a predominantly white opportunist activity in poor white areas. Rioting is a common occurrence in the UK and almost (always?)  always triggered by heavy handed police containment / suppression. 

 “A riot is the language of the unheard,”
ML King

LOL. 90+ percent of the media lean left yet they’re somehow unheard.

How about this. To stop crime you have to target high crime areas. Now, which areas have the highest crime rates?
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: chaos on June 06, 2020, 03:03:53 PM
wtf?
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Traitors. Get the nooses.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: bLuEeYes on June 06, 2020, 03:15:45 PM
People were busy before the pandemic working and drinking with friends not having much time to think how the governement are fucking us. Spending 3 months alone and thinking got alot of people aware of what's going on and that push them to protest the injustice they've been through their whole life that they just realised.
It's well known that if you want to rule you gotta go by the roman saying "Bread and circuses". There's no entertainement right now then people are afraid for bread. They still have the 2009 crisis in their memory and are afraid this will be worse..

As for the looters, in my country, the governement make hundreds of policemen infiltrate the peaceful protests and starts to destroy and steal so they can later on justify the use ( abuse ) of force against the protesters. Sure after this, some batshit crazy citizens start destroying too.

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Rambone on June 06, 2020, 03:54:22 PM
I was going to type a reply, but this hit all the points.
It boils down to agendas that are far above what most of the population can conceive. Most of the Democratic Party are part of it (with many not even being aware of it) and because the media essentially is a Democratic bought and running machine, the news that we are all subjected to and bombarded with daily is skewed in a way to push their agendas. The agenda? Get Trump out of office at all costs! Why? Because he is not part of the elite machine (that does include some corrupt Republicans too BTW). He is the one guy that can actually foil their plans, because he will actually look into wrong doings by the powers that be and that scares them.
The BLM is total bullshit, it’s a movement drummed up by and pushed by the media and has the backing of powerful, rich, many white, corrupt elites that want to get their agendas pushed. There are actually more whites and just as many Hispanics, Asians etc that suffer racial mistreatment by police, despite the fact that their actual total encounters are far below their black counterparts.
The fact that Drew Brees, who is one of the best “celebrities” among anyone, was and is being vilified for his comments by the media and his fellow athletes make me sick, and the fact that he was essentially bullied into apologizing is everything wrong with this country.

Well said my friend
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: friedchickendinner on June 06, 2020, 03:56:37 PM
People were busy before the pandemic working and drinking with friends not having much time to think how the governement are fucking us. Spending 3 months alone and thinking got alot of people aware of what's going on and that push them to protest the injustice they've been through their whole life that they just realised.
It's well known that if you want to rule you gotta go by the roman saying "Bread and circuses". There's no entertainement right now then people are afraid for bread. They still have the 2009 crisis in their memory and are afraid this will be worse..

As for the looters, in my country, the governement make hundreds of policemen infiltrate the peaceful protests and starts to destroy and steal so they can later on justify the use ( abuse ) of force against the protesters. Sure after this, some batshit crazy citizens start destroying too.

Fuck off you communist
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Primemuscle on June 06, 2020, 04:04:15 PM
Interesting Oregonian front page article. Blacks make up 3% of the population in Oregon. Outside the Portland Metro area, Republicans dominate.

THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD OREGON

Protests being held all over state

People turn out to march in smaller cities, towns in heavily GOP territory

Andrew Theen The Oregonian/OregonLive

In small towns and cities that sit squarely in Republican strongholds and rarely see protests, thousands of Oregonians marched, held Black Lives Matter signs aloft and chanted George Floyd’s name at rallies across the state this week.

They stood in solidarity in Pendleton, La Grande, Hermiston and Coquille as well as Portland suburbs like Happy Valley and Tualatin. They stood outside the courthouse in Prineville and marched into the night in Klamath Falls Some wore masks and some didn’t, emblematic of the country’s still fresh unease with the novel coronavirus. They gathered on the sidewalk of a state highway in sleepy Monmouth and stood in a small group in Burns, leashed dogs at their feet. They marched by the hundreds from an Albertson’s parking lot in Ontario, at the state’s eastern edge, to City Hall where they took a knee and held a moment of silence. A group of roughly 1,000 protested for 13 hours in Medford.

Less than two weeks after Floyd died after a white police officer kneeled on his neck for nearly nine minutes, protests and demonstrations continue apace in Portland and Eugene, where such expressions are part of the city’s DNA.

But this time, the moment of American pain spread to all corners of the state, including those where protests are something you see on the news, not down on Main Street.

Oregon has a black population of just 3%, according to the most recent census figures, far below the national rate of 14%. Protests against anti-black racism occurred this week in small towns where the black population is miniscule but where young Latino populations are booming.

Hundreds lined the street in Pendleton, as protests against the death of George Floyd have gone statewide, with marches in Ontario, Medford and La Grande, among others. Ben Lonergan, East Oregonian


Statewide marches

Adam Boyd, a 40-year-old Medford native who works in commercial video production, grabbed his gear and documented what he said was an unprecedented moment in his hometown.

“The reason that people are angry right now, I feel like it’s the most important issue in our country,” Boyd, who is white, said of institutionalized racism.

Take the political climate of the country, sprinkle in a global pandemic and multiple months of social isolation and it seemed that nearly every community was ready to explode.

“All it needed was one spark to set off the biggest forest fire that we’ll ever see,” Boyd said of his town, which is often inundated with wildfire smoke pouring into the Rogue Valley during the summer, “And that’s where we’re at.”

Kadedra Hackler, a 25-year-old lab specialist at a Pendleton recovery clinic, made signs and stood on a street corner with her husband, Charles, and hundreds of others.

Kadedra is black. Charles, who grew up in Pendleton, is white. “It could’ve been my dad, mom, sister, niece, cousins, friends, ME,” her sign read in part.

Some passersby flipped off the crowd or gave a thumbs down, Hackler said. But that was the exception.

“People were honking their horns and cheering along with us,” she said.

On the other side of the Blue Mountains, hundreds gathered on either side of the main drag through La Grande.

John Lamoreau, a 69-year-old social studies teacher who has lived in Union County since 1986, couldn’t believe the turnout. There were Eastern Oregon University students, but also a diverse group of locals, young and old, he said.

“I was really proud of our community,” he said.

ANTIFA BUSES

While thousands, collectively, gathered peacefully to protest police brutality and demand racial equity measures in those rural counties, there was a common presence at demonstrations in several of the smaller communities in Oregon and in parts of Idaho: armed white men, who were not law enforcement officers, standing guard.

In the past week, false social media rumors spread like a brush fire warning that leftist insurgents would be descending on these historically conservative areas to loot, riot and cause chaos, using the protests as cover.

“We heard that there were going to be busloads of antifa coming,” Scott Clauson, Medford’s police chief, said of the loosely organized antifascist group.

Clauson said those rumors, coming on the heels of property damage in downtown Eugene on Saturday, guided his preparation for Monday’s protest. He put a few more officers on the ground in case.

Medford’s rally started at the plaza outside City Hall with a sizable contingent, and many took to the streets and kept marching for hours from there.

In Grants Pass, armed men hung out in a parking lot near a Baskin-Robbins to protect what locals say is the state’s largest U.S. flag.

In Coquille, the seat of Coos County, law enforcement said they were “inundated” with calls in the 36 hours before a planned protest in the rural town of 3,800 people warning that outside agitators would use the small-town protest to cause mayhem.

As in Medford and Grants Pass, none showed up.

But nearly 200 people, some armed, took that rumor seriously. According to the Coos Bay World, a car with a Black Lives Matter sign happened to drive by the crowd and “a man wearing the American flag as a cape was seen taking the sign from those in the car and shouting.” Deputies recovered the sign, but the driver had already left, the paper said.

According to KOBI-TV, Klamath Falls events were largely peaceful but tense, with many armed men showing up due to antifa rumors. Some at the event were arrested for alcohol-related reasons and disorderly conduct.

The most high-profile arrests took place in La Grande and Medford, both involving white men with guns, though it’s unclear whether they were motivated to attend due to the false antifa rumors.

In La Grande, a man who was openly carrying a long rifle was arrested after apparently scuffling with protesters.

Lamoreau, the teacher, left before the arrest but said other gun-toting men were not directly confrontational but perhaps misguided. “When you show up for a peaceful rally with guns, you’re intimidating,” he said, whether intentionally provocative or not.

“Would you extend that to people on the other side?” he asked of the ability to openly carry a firearm, “if a person was black?”

In Medford, Boyd and Clauson recalled a tense moment during which a man waved a gun at protesters.

The man was arrested and charged with menacing and disorderly conduct, Clauson said. He was out on bail by the end of that night, but police kept the gun for evidence. Beth Heckert, Jackson County’s District Attorney, said Friday her office was still waiting on police reports before investigating and filing formal charges.

Boyd captured the scene on video amid the crowd. He’d never felt scared of being around someone with a gun but said that moment felt different because of the purpose of the protest. “For the first time I felt like I was put into someone else’s shoes,” he said.

Clauson said while antifa rumors were false, he was still prepared for the unexpected. He said he’s consistently fighting falsehoods. “There’s been a tremendous amount of disinformation, and it’s fueled by social media,” he said.

The rumors aren’t limited to those about buses filled with antifa members. “I’m still getting emails today,” Clauson said Thursday, “asking why we didn’t arrest him,” he said of the man he arrested for allegedly waving the gun.

Clauson said he thought the protest went well, saying that while there was a lot of “passion and anger and frustration” among the protesters, they never crossed any line.

“We respect people’s right to protest, we want to provide a safe venue for them to do so, we’re not going to hinder that process,” he said, unless there’s a threat of harm to people or property.

THE CHAIN

Kadedra Hackler has spent every year except for the last one living in the South, in a small town about 45 miles outside Atlanta. She said racism there is more overt, and she described generations of fear she and her relatives felt living among communities where the Ku Klux Klan and other hate groups “run rampant.”

“People here have been more aware that there is a problem and don’t try to deflect,” she said of Pendleton. “People have been scared of saying the wrong things and I tell them don’t be scared, you’ll know when you offend me.”

Hackler said she felt moved to protest because enough was enough and she feels the national issues surrounding violence against black Americans are too often swept under the rug. “There is a problem, and no one wants to address those problems. We just want to be treated like human beings,” she said.

Lamoreau, the La Grande teacher, said he held a sign saying Oregon ranks seventh in the nation for the proportion of black residents who are incarcerated. “We need to ask ourselves why is this happening,” he said.

In Medford, Boyd said he has been awakened as a result of the nationwide furor surrounding Floyd’s death under the police officer’s knee and the subsequent murder charges.

“If I had children, if one of my kids was killed by anyone for no reason, I would want to burn everything down,” Boyd said, “Then to have the person that killed your loved one be a police officer, sworn to protect and serve, that would make it that much worse.”

He believes it’s time for real change in Oregon and the country. “Something is broken along the chain somewhere,” he said.

That chain, Boyd went on, could be viewed as humanity itself. People are supposed to link together. Everyone, he noted, bleeds the same.

atheen@oregonian.com; 503-294-4026; @andrewtheen

“All it needed was one spark to set off the biggest forest fire that we’ll ever see.”

Adam Boyd, Medford native, speaking of recent protests


“People here have been more aware that there is a problem,” Pendleton resident Kadedra Hackler said. Ben Lonergan, East Oregonian

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on June 06, 2020, 04:06:56 PM
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That's Macron, U stupid fuck  ::)
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on June 06, 2020, 04:09:01 PM
Looting is transition to freedom
 Deal with it and shut up


Where  ???, in muslim world ?.

Nothing to loot in your "country"  :-\
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: njflex on June 06, 2020, 04:27:03 PM
More that comes out more I get pissed about this part time hoodlum,he didn’t deserve to die in this matter but media sucks bad fuk them,playing it up for ratings ,money,keep sham alive.as for corona I was at the jersey shore with kids today beautiful,bikinis,hot girls,no masks ,just to go to bathroom.people were enjoying liffe again
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 06, 2020, 04:27:20 PM
assuming there is a universal definition of crime its also worth while figuring out why some areas have higher crime rates than others.

Yes, we need to find out but at the same time pretend that policies and culture aren’t possibilities.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Primemuscle on June 06, 2020, 04:57:28 PM
More that comes out more I get pissed about this part time hoodlum,he didn’t deserve to die in this matter but media sucks bad fuk them,playing it up for ratings ,money,keep sham alive.as for corona I was at the jersey shore with kids today beautiful,bikinis,hot girls,no masks ,just to go to bathroom.people were enjoying liffe again

I see people out bicycling,  walking and jogging wearing masks. It seems a bit of an overkill unless the jogging path is so crowded that it is not possible to maintain social distancing.

"Coronavirus
Which N.J. beaches and boardwalks are open this weekend? Here’s a complete list - and restrictions to be aware of.
Updated May 16, 2020; Posted May 14, 2020"

Which of the two photos below best represents the crowds at the beach you were at?

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Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: TheGrinch on June 06, 2020, 05:07:51 PM
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Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: tom joad on June 06, 2020, 05:12:40 PM
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Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2020, 05:13:55 PM
Pretty simple...ALL OF IT is about election interference in November. From the fake “Russian collusion” to these riots and EVERYTHING in between. It’s really as simple as that.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: MAXX on June 06, 2020, 05:24:26 PM
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you're a fag obviously
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on June 06, 2020, 05:33:17 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/2589ms.jpg)


A U Alex Soros ?.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Kwon on June 06, 2020, 05:38:52 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZlG_yZXkAMChq4.jpg)
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Rambone on June 06, 2020, 05:40:31 PM
‪"Racism is not dead. But it is on life-support, kept alive mainly by the people who use it for an excuse or to keep minority communities fearful or resentful enough to turn out as a voting bloc on election day."‬ - Thomas Sowell ‬
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Rambone on June 06, 2020, 07:06:48 PM
Memba Baltimore?
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Flexacon on June 06, 2020, 11:34:02 PM
The left desperately want back into power to finish what they started. They want all of us following the China model.

They don't want a middle a class who are entrepreneurial. They want us all living hand to mouth, pay cheque to pay cheque. They will sell it to people with universal basic income and/or 4 day working weeks.

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 07, 2020, 05:02:58 AM
Memba Baltimore?

It seems they speak out of both sides of their mouth in instances like this. They’ll say it’s police brutality against blacks that they’re marching for, not only white racism against blacks.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 07, 2020, 06:44:35 AM
They will sell it to people with universal basic income and/or 4 day working weeks.

If they sell it that way, by promoting: Universal Health Care, Universal basic income and a modified work week, then I have a strong suspicion that things will certainly go in that direction given the recent line of events.

In other words, misery loves company. If I can't make it as well as you have, what's better than simply having everyone at the exact same level, thereby removing any real sense of superiority from the wealthy upper-class?

"1"
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: njflex on June 07, 2020, 07:39:18 AM
I see people out bicycling,  walking and jogging wearing masks. It seems a bit of an overkill unless the jogging path is so crowded that it is not possible to maintain social distancing.

"Coronavirus
Which N.J. beaches and boardwalks are open this weekend? Here’s a complete list - and restrictions to be aware of.
Updated May 16, 2020; Posted May 14, 2020"

Which of the two photos below best represents the crowds at the beach you were at?

(https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/MV4ZO2XGNBEDVL3X4HTN4DWGUY.jpg)

(https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/1146381673/960x0.jpg?fit=scale)
Mostly top pic everyone respecting some distance,nobody acted like an idiot with a ruler out measuring spaces lol
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: chaos on June 07, 2020, 08:08:15 AM
aside from gestures being no substitute for action
who and what have these gentlemen betrayed?
Their actions of showing support for the out of control, tantrum throwing animals out in the streets is reason enough.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Kwon on June 07, 2020, 01:07:28 PM
People think this is just in the US?


The BLM shit is right here too!

Yesterday in Sweden

Riots of Peace


(https://scontent.farn2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/102735318_1620160741475932_4701805256715757061_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=Fqrq7uSL7LkAX-tnElk&_nc_ht=scontent.farn2-1.fna&oh=9c7a4ceab3e6e5e2d3d1bb0f419d4f0a&oe=5F01A5B6)
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Bevo on June 07, 2020, 01:27:21 PM
People think this is just in the US?


The BLM shit is right here too!

Yesterday in Sweden

Riots of Peace


(https://scontent.farn2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/102735318_1620160741475932_4701805256715757061_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=Fqrq7uSL7LkAX-tnElk&_nc_ht=scontent.farn2-1.fna&oh=9c7a4ceab3e6e5e2d3d1bb0f419d4f0a&oe=5F01A5B6)

European countries are such cocks

Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Primemuscle on June 07, 2020, 01:30:43 PM
Pretty simple...ALL OF IT is about election interference in November. From the fake “Russian collusion” to these riots and EVERYTHING in between. It’s really as simple as that.

I sincerely hope you are being serious here. But, in the event that you are this is what I think about that:
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on June 07, 2020, 04:41:28 PM
(https://sun9-7.userapi.com/qYIzikGlTG30mxX-FbNnbUIg8bnnYJHWVMf8iw/i5JhCoQZL_o.jpg)


RK is one of Macrons boys !.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Flexacon on June 07, 2020, 08:20:03 PM
If they sell it that way, by promoting: Universal Health Care, Universal basic income and a modified work week, then I have a strong suspicion that things will certainly go in that direction given the recent line of events.

In other words, misery loves company. If I can't make it as well as you have, what's better than simply having everyone at the exact same level, thereby removing any real sense of superiority from the wealthy upper-class?

"1"

I think of it like this. People see a gold Ferrari and they don't think about keying it, maybe just take a picture with it. It's not a level of wealth they can really comprehend, it's more a fantasy. They will however key a nice BMW or kitted up car, cos how dare someone do better than them.

Also the left will give with one hand and take with the other. So for things like UHC, UBI, 4 day working week etc we'd all end up having to work for multinational conglomerates like Amazon as that's all that will be left. Things like sick pay, holiday and maternity pay won't be as generous because in a lot of cases you'll still be able to work from home. You can also forget about any kind of retirement.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: falco on June 08, 2020, 02:53:49 AM
Is there any foreseeable way for Trump to win re-election given the level of attack he has taken since the start of his presidency and further accentuated during 2020 in what looks to be dragged out all the way until November?

"1"

Yes. The attacks just prove he is doing the wright thing. Who voted him are now seeing clearly the real nature of the democratic party.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: wes on June 08, 2020, 03:16:52 AM
The looters could give 2 fucks about Floyds demise they are just using it as an excuse to rob and destroy.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: lightweight83 on June 08, 2020, 05:25:21 AM
heres good-goy taylor take



Please got let this video get national exposure or at least trend on Youtube. 
This video is the truth that the media doesn't want you to know, and every single libtard and dindu should be forced to watch this (2-3x for dindus, as it will take a couple viewings for them to understand). 
If after watching this, you still believe the liberal brain washing, you need some serious help when it comes to critical thinking.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Kwon on June 08, 2020, 08:03:25 AM
Gothenburg yesterday
(https://external.farn2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQAu4xGeCX0iPVbB&w=540&h=282&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FOdPMAXjkb_Y%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1&fallback=news_d_placeholder_publisher&_nc_hash=AQCQVOSzLE0FvDnA)
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: fredrollon on June 11, 2020, 08:54:07 AM
Some sort of distraction ,maybe?

A smalltime criminal getting killed by the US police,
a few small businesses getting burned to the ground ,
rioting by unemployed or unemployable agitators,
police getting injured ,
a few precincts being left without police stations,
some statues or monuments getting defaced or taken down...….

…..aren't such big deals in the great scheme of things -certainly not to the powers that be.


The US stock-market ,with a few jitters,had regained its losses, in recent weeks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/business/recession-stock-market-coronavirus.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/business/recession-stock-market-coronavirus.html)


Perhaps, if Joe Biden gets elected we'll get the economic showdown with China postponed and this show going for a few more years - till the strategic rivalry between China and the US become too strong.

That's the only (semi-plausible) conspiracy theory I can think of. Can anyone do better?
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Griffith on June 11, 2020, 08:59:01 AM
Everything in their racist 'BLM' cause is just an excuse to attack whites and western culture.

They're nothing more than leftist terrorists, same as occurred in Africa, and if they ever gain control of the country, the US will be finished.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: tommywishbone on June 11, 2020, 10:13:55 AM
All BLM and the riots represent is the Democrats attempting to keep all blacks and all desenfranchised living on the Democratic plantation. 

"We will help you. We will feed you. We will provide housing. We will give you a cell phone. We will give you just enough cash monthly to live."     -Every single democratic leader


Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 11, 2020, 10:20:56 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaLtyR2WsAAHE5r?format=jpg&name=large)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaML724XgAA1m-t?format=jpg&name=900x900)


Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: deadz on June 11, 2020, 11:47:17 AM
Here's my take and I'd like to read what your view/responses are surrounding these events. Remember, this is only my opinion, please don't take offense and assume I am trying to downplay our current reality.

I don't believe these protests have as much to do with George Floyd as many are making it out to be. By many, I mean the mainstream media and certain small anti-government groups that are trying to make this man a martyr. I think these protests are truly due to a culmination of many things at play that are simply being united by a perfect storm of cascading events. Let me explain.

Regarding George Floyd (aka Floyd the Landlord), the fact stands that every American regardless of race, color or cultural background deserves a fair trial in court, if a crime is committed. The issue surrounding George Floyd is not whether he was an upstanding individual worthy of becoming a martyr for a cause. On the contrary, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen. He was a regular guy, working a few jobs, that had done some porn and been arrested a few times, who apparently was trying to purchase items at a local store with counterfeit money. The major issue here is not whether he was a hero or someone of value in the African American community, but instead that as a black American, he, like many other black Americans, got killed after receiving a trial that occurred at a street corner under the unilateral pressure of four white-colored shins. African Americans and minorities alike aren't making t-shirts with George Floyd on them to suggest he was some type of hero, instead George Floyd stands as a symbol of what's wrong with America today. George Floyd can be anyone, you can exchange George Floyd for George Jefferson and it wouldn't make a difference. It's not so much about the individual that was killed or the fact that he was troubled with a heavy criminal past, instead it's about the fact that we've seen this story play out many, many times again over the last 400 years. What started hundreds of years ago via small backwoods displays with tools involving trees, ropes in the form of nooses or sometimes knives and bullets, has now been simplified to even that of choke-holds and asphyxiation techniques, but is being aired on national media outlets. The fact that, more times than not, law enforcement would disarm and arrest a white criminal following a heinous crime in order to arrive at a fair trial in court, but would probably execute said criminal on the spot if they were black and found to have committed the same heinous act is where the problem lies behind the Floyd (or insert any African American's last name who has been assassinated by cops) case.

What do I really feel are the key ingredients that brought about these protests? Again, going back to what my sentiments have been for quite some time now, I believe it's due to the following events all culminating in civil unrest:

  • Worldwide pandemic
  • Death of hundreds of thousands
  • Governments that don't know enough or are not being completely truthful with their citizens about this disease
  • Tanking of world economy
  • Millions losing jobs
  • Social & economic injustice running rampant (particularly rich vs poor, regardless of race)
  • Sleeper cells of people that were already tired and disgusted with this capitalistic system that favors the dirty rich or dirty poor, but crushes the struggling middle class
  • Racial inequality as seen with the numerous cases of black homicides over the years by the hands of law enforcement and government
  • The presence of many mentally unstable people (think psychopaths) and former convicts that have been sitting around waiting for an event like this to let loose
  • Various internal terrorist groups like Antifa that are anti-fascism, but are very cleverly doing their part to incite violent riots

These are the elements that I think mainly contribute to what is occurring now within our city streets. George Floyd was the necessary catalyst that was needed to light the gasoline trail in order to burn the system down. Because of the aforementioned elements being at play is why I don't think Floyd's killing was as big of a deal as the media is making it out to be. I believe that if not for the last 3 months' worth of stay-at-home orders and the fact that people were going stir crazy and dying for an opportunity to unleash/show their dissatisfaction with our government and leaders, that this wouldn't be happening. If Floyd would have been killed a year ago, under the same circumstances, there might have been some local protests in Minneapolis, but I doubt it would have become a worldwide phenomenon as it has now. A year ago, people would have been too busy with work, consumerist culture, social influencers and their own private struggles to care so much about a random African American.

Like all things, this will lead to change. The Civil rights act came to fruition after people rioted for days following the death of Martin Luther King. These events will undoubtedly lead to some level of civil rights and law enforcement reform.

What I still can't understand is why the rioting/looting is also occurring in inner-city neighborhoods that are mostly inhabited by minorities. You see, with the exception of the major outlets like Target, Walmart etc, the vast majority of those community businesses are owned by local business owners (African American, Asian, Arab and Hispanic). By destroying those businesses, the looters are helping the same system they are trying to protest against. They are serving as the strong-armed Uncle Toms beating on the other field negros. By destroying those businesses, they are pushing resources out of their communities, pushing away local job creators and further paving the way for Target and Walmart to expand deeper into their communities, which will then lead to more gentrification, which is what I thought they were also trying to stop. All of which makes me wonder if those particular people (looters destroying their own communities) are just too stupid to realize how badly they fuck themselves in the process.

In any case, what are your views? I'd like to know where you stand.

"1"
"Truly about" SCUMBAGS!!!!!
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Griffith on June 11, 2020, 11:56:09 AM
"Truly about" SCUMBAGS!!!!!

x2
Title: BLMBrews attacking a Driver.
Post by: Kwon on July 05, 2020, 09:19:44 AM
"THEY BEATIN' HER UP!" (https://www.facebook.com/YoungZillion812/videos/4574018392623605/UzpfSTEwMDAwMDYxNjI1Mjc2MDozNDE0MDk3NTM4NjIwNzU0/)


Louisville, Kentucky
Title: Re: BLMBrews attacking a Driver.
Post by: lightweight83 on July 05, 2020, 09:48:23 AM
"THEY BEATIN' HER UP!" (https://www.facebook.com/YoungZillion812/videos/4574018392623605/UzpfSTEwMDAwMDYxNjI1Mjc2MDozNDE0MDk3NTM4NjIwNzU0/)


Louisville, Kentucky

I can't wait for the first video like this where the driver pulls out a gun and shoots every mother f*cker surrounding them.  Will put a smile on my face
Title: Re: BLMBrews attacking a Driver.
Post by: Kwon on July 05, 2020, 09:53:54 AM
I can't wait for the first video like this where the driver pulls out a gun and shoots every mother f*cker surrounding them.  Will put a smile on my face

Eventually someone is gonna snap!
Title: Re: BLMBrews attacking a Driver.
Post by: Dokey111 on July 05, 2020, 09:56:58 AM
I can't wait for the first video like this where the driver pulls out a gun and shoots every mother f*cker surrounding them.  Will put a smile on my face

hurry the fuck up
Title: Re: BLMBrews attacking a Driver.
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 05, 2020, 10:00:12 AM
just peaceful protesters here folks, nuffin to see here just blocking the patch of people trying to get to work or home or wherever
never stop your car for these criminals, blaze right on thru them and rag-doll em.
Title: Re: BLMBrews attacking a Driver.
Post by: joswift on July 06, 2020, 03:13:51 PM
these people are going to just start getting mown down a lot more often, they have bad intentions, its best to not take any chances and just hit the gas, fuck them..
Title: Moe Atlanta Baboonery
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 07, 2020, 05:02:46 AM
The girl just wanted to get home to see her cousins, said her father, Secoriya Williamson. “They say Black lives matter,” he said. “You killed your own.” A 53-year-old man was also fatally shot over the weekend near the restaurant, Kemp noted.

www.mail.com/news/us/10018722-georgia-gov-authorizes-guard-troops-8-year-old-kil.html
Title: Re: Moe Atlanta Baboonery
Post by: IroNat on July 07, 2020, 05:19:43 AM
Sad.
Title: Re: BLMBrews attacking a Driver.
Post by: wes on July 07, 2020, 08:41:19 AM
I would have gunned it from Jump Street/.............besides what idiot would stop there any fucking way?
Title: Re: Moe Atlanta Baboonery
Post by: Pray_4_War on July 07, 2020, 03:07:36 PM
The girl just wanted to get home to see her cousins, said her father, Secoriya Williamson. “They say Black lives matter,” he said. “You killed your own.” A 53-year-old man was also fatally shot over the weekend near the restaurant, Kemp noted.

www.mail.com/news/us/10018722-georgia-gov-authorizes-guard-troops-8-year-old-kil.html

BLM has now killed more black people in 2020 than the police.   ;D
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: Marty Champions on July 07, 2020, 04:06:00 PM
1 Black, 1 Asian, and 2 Whites

are the new 4 white-colored  ???


(https://i.postimg.cc/qB61vSb8/images-21.jpg)


(https://i.postimg.cc/mDrvtjc0/20200604-arrested-reuters.jpg)
thats not chauvin
Title: Re: Protests - Why riot, loot and attack?
Post by: Titus Pullo on July 07, 2020, 04:10:24 PM
Here's my take and I'd like to read what your view/responses are surrounding these events. Remember, this is only my opinion, please don't take offense and assume I am trying to downplay our current reality.

I don't believe these protests have as much to do with George Floyd as many are making it out to be. By many, I mean the mainstream media and certain small anti-government groups that are trying to make this man a martyr. I think these protests are truly due to a culmination of many things at play that are simply being united by a perfect storm of cascading events. Let me explain.

Regarding George Floyd (aka Floyd the Landlord), the fact stands that every American regardless of race, color or cultural background deserves a fair trial in court, if a crime is committed. The issue surrounding George Floyd is not whether he was an upstanding individual worthy of becoming a martyr for a cause. On the contrary, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen. He was a regular guy, working a few jobs, that had done some porn and been arrested a few times, who apparently was trying to purchase items at a local store with counterfeit money. The major issue here is not whether he was a hero or someone of value in the African American community, but instead that as a black American, he, like many other black Americans, got killed after receiving a trial that occurred at a street corner under the unilateral pressure of four white-colored shins. African Americans and minorities alike aren't making t-shirts with George Floyd on them to suggest he was some type of hero, instead George Floyd stands as a symbol of what's wrong with America today. George Floyd can be anyone, you can exchange George Floyd for George Jefferson and it wouldn't make a difference. It's not so much about the individual that was killed or the fact that he was troubled with a heavy criminal past, instead it's about the fact that we've seen this story play out many, many times again over the last 400 years. What started hundreds of years ago via small backwoods displays with tools involving trees, ropes in the form of nooses or sometimes knives and bullets, has now been simplified to even that of choke-holds and asphyxiation techniques, but is being aired on national media outlets. The fact that, more times than not, law enforcement would disarm and arrest a white criminal following a heinous crime in order to arrive at a fair trial in court, but would probably execute said criminal on the spot if they were black and found to have committed the same heinous act is where the problem lies behind the Floyd (or insert any African American's last name who has been assassinated by cops) case.

What do I really feel are the key ingredients that brought about these protests? Again, going back to what my sentiments have been for quite some time now, I believe it's due to the following events all culminating in civil unrest:

  • Worldwide pandemic
  • Death of hundreds of thousands
  • Governments that don't know enough or are not being completely truthful with their citizens about this disease
  • Tanking of world economy
  • Millions losing jobs
  • Social & economic injustice running rampant (particularly rich vs poor, regardless of race)
  • Sleeper cells of people that were already tired and disgusted with this capitalistic system that favors the dirty rich or dirty poor, but crushes the struggling middle class
  • Racial inequality as seen with the numerous cases of black homicides over the years by the hands of law enforcement and government
  • The presence of many mentally unstable people (think psychopaths) and former convicts that have been sitting around waiting for an event like this to let loose
  • Various internal terrorist groups like Antifa that are anti-fascism, but are very cleverly doing their part to incite violent riots

These are the elements that I think mainly contribute to what is occurring now within our city streets. George Floyd was the necessary catalyst that was needed to light the gasoline trail in order to burn the system down. Because of the aforementioned elements being at play is why I don't think Floyd's killing was as big of a deal as the media is making it out to be. I believe that if not for the last 3 months' worth of stay-at-home orders and the fact that people were going stir crazy and dying for an opportunity to unleash/show their dissatisfaction with our government and leaders, that this wouldn't be happening. If Floyd would have been killed a year ago, under the same circumstances, there might have been some local protests in Minneapolis, but I doubt it would have become a worldwide phenomenon as it has now. A year ago, people would have been too busy with work, consumerist culture, social influencers and their own private struggles to care so much about a random African American.

Like all things, this will lead to change. The Civil rights act came to fruition after people rioted for days following the death of Martin Luther King. These events will undoubtedly lead to some level of civil rights and law enforcement reform.

What I still can't understand is why the rioting/looting is also occurring in inner-city neighborhoods that are mostly inhabited by minorities. You see, with the exception of the major outlets like Target, Walmart etc, the vast majority of those community businesses are owned by local business owners (African American, Asian, Arab and Hispanic). By destroying those businesses, the looters are helping the same system they are trying to protest against. They are serving as the strong-armed Uncle Toms beating on the other field negros. By destroying those businesses, they are pushing resources out of their communities, pushing away local job creators and further paving the way for Target and Walmart to expand deeper into their communities, which will then lead to more gentrification, which is what I thought they were also trying to stop. All of which makes me wonder if those particular people (looters destroying their own communities) are just too stupid to realize how badly they fuck themselves in the process.

In any case, what are your views? I'd like to know where you stand.

"1"

An astute analysis.

Antifa and BLM are caught in a self-destructive cycle.  IMO, the only reason they still have traction is because bleeding-heart liberal whites have supported them.  Witness the white "celebrities" who totally kiss their asses, from making stupid "I take responsibility" videos to whites washing black peoples' feet.

At the end of the day, said celebs go back to their mansions in their gated communities.  They claim to give a shit, but they really don't. 

People are quick to conflate right-wing thinkers as the main obstacle in making "progress," whatever that truly means, but I see the leftists in America creating the greatest diviseness.  Moreover, I think they push so hard that there will be a rebound reaction from the right.
Title: Re: Protests - Why riot, loot and attack?
Post by: oldgolds on July 08, 2020, 07:28:47 AM
Here's my take and I'd like to read what your view/responses are surrounding these events. Remember, this is only my opinion, please don't take offense and assume I am trying to downplay our current reality.

I don't believe these protests have as much to do with George Floyd as many are making it out to be. By many, I mean the mainstream media and certain small anti-government groups that are trying to make this man a martyr. I think these protests are truly due to a culmination of many things at play that are simply being united by a perfect storm of cascading events. Let me explain.

Regarding George Floyd (aka Floyd the Landlord), the fact stands that every American regardless of race, color or cultural background deserves a fair trial in court, if a crime is committed. The issue surrounding George Floyd is not whether he was an upstanding individual worthy of becoming a martyr for a cause. On the contrary, George Floyd wasn't a model citizen. He was a regular guy, working a few jobs, that had done some porn and been arrested a few times, who apparently was trying to purchase items at a local store with counterfeit money. The major issue here is not whether he was a hero or someone of value in the African American community, but instead that as a black American, he, like many other black Americans, got killed after receiving a trial that occurred at a street corner under the unilateral pressure of four white-colored shins. African Americans and minorities alike aren't making t-shirts with George Floyd on them to suggest he was some type of hero, instead George Floyd stands as a symbol of what's wrong with America today. George Floyd can be anyone, you can exchange George Floyd for George Jefferson and it wouldn't make a difference. It's not so much about the individual that was killed or the fact that he was troubled with a heavy criminal past, instead it's about the fact that we've seen this story play out many, many times again over the last 400 years. What started hundreds of years ago via small backwoods displays with tools involving trees, ropes in the form of nooses or sometimes knives and bullets, has now been simplified to even that of choke-holds and asphyxiation techniques, but is being aired on national media outlets. The fact that, more times than not, law enforcement would disarm and arrest a white criminal following a heinous crime in order to arrive at a fair trial in court, but would probably execute said criminal on the spot if they were black and found to have committed the same heinous act is where the problem lies behind the Floyd (or insert any African American's last name who has been assassinated by cops) case.

What do I really feel are the key ingredients that brought about these protests? Again, going back to what my sentiments have been for quite some time now, I believe it's due to the following events all culminating in civil unrest:

  • Worldwide pandemic
  • Death of hundreds of thousands
  • Governments that don't know enough or are not being completely truthful with their citizens about this disease
  • Tanking of world economy
  • Millions losing jobs
  • Social & economic injustice running rampant (particularly rich vs poor, regardless of race)
  • Sleeper cells of people that were already tired and disgusted with this capitalistic system that favors the dirty rich or dirty poor, but crushes the struggling middle class
  • Racial inequality as seen with the numerous cases of black homicides over the years by the hands of law enforcement and government
  • The presence of many mentally unstable people (think psychopaths) and former convicts that have been sitting around waiting for an event like this to let loose
  • Various internal terrorist groups like Antifa that are anti-fascism, but are very cleverly doing their part to incite violent riots

These are the elements that I think mainly contribute to what is occurring now within our city streets. George Floyd was the necessary catalyst that was needed to light the gasoline trail in order to burn the system down. Because of the aforementioned elements being at play is why I don't think Floyd's killing was as big of a deal as the media is making it out to be. I believe that if not for the last 3 months' worth of stay-at-home orders and the fact that people were going stir crazy and dying for an opportunity to unleash/show their dissatisfaction with our government and leaders, that this wouldn't be happening. If Floyd would have been killed a year ago, under the same circumstances, there might have been some local protests in Minneapolis, but I doubt it would have become a worldwide phenomenon as it has now. A year ago, people would have been too busy with work, consumerist culture, social influencers and their own private struggles to care so much about a random African American.

Like all things, this will lead to change. The Civil rights act came to fruition after people rioted for days following the death of Martin Luther King. These events will undoubtedly lead to some level of civil rights and law enforcement reform.

What I still can't understand is why the rioting/looting is also occurring in inner-city neighborhoods that are mostly inhabited by minorities. You see, with the exception of the major outlets like Target, Walmart etc, the vast majority of those community businesses are owned by local business owners (African American, Asian, Arab and Hispanic). By destroying those businesses, the looters are helping the same system they are trying to protest against. They are serving as the strong-armed Uncle Toms beating on the other field negros. By destroying those businesses, they are pushing resources out of their communities, pushing away local job creators and further paving the way for Target and Walmart to expand deeper into their communities, which will then lead to more gentrification, which is what I thought they were also trying to stop. All of which makes me wonder if those particular people (looters destroying their own communities) are just too stupid to realize how badly they fuck themselves in the process.

In any case, what are your views? I'd like to know where you stand.

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Waaaaa....The world is unfair so lets destroy the most successful society/country that ever existed.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: B_B_C on July 08, 2020, 08:02:28 AM
Is there any foreseeable way for Trump to win re-election given the level of attack he has taken since the start of his presidency and further accentuated during 2020 in what looks to be dragged out all the way until November?

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stop giving cause for the attacks ?
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: pellius on July 08, 2020, 11:54:26 PM
Is there any foreseeable way for Trump to win re-election given the level of attack he has taken since the start of his presidency and further accentuated during 2020 in what looks to be dragged out all the way until November?

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Yes. Just have Trump run against someone like Joe Biden with a VP only chosen because she is a Black woman.

Once Biden starts making more public appearances and the mental decline gets more and more obvious, and follow that with the debates, he will be crushed.
Title: Re: Protests - Why riot, loot and attack?
Post by: oldgolds on July 09, 2020, 05:51:50 AM
I don't think Biden will debate, his handlers know it will kill his chances.
Title: Re: What are these protests with consequent rioting & looting truly about?
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 09, 2020, 05:59:58 AM
Yes. Just have Trump run against someone like Joe Biden with a VP only chosen because she is a Black woman.

Once Biden starts making more public appearances and the mental decline gets more and more obvious, and follow that with the debates, he will be crushed.

Biden's brain has checked out. It's pretty sad.

For Democrats to even allow for Joe Biden to continue in the race shows that there is truly no depth to their depravity as possible results of this (Biden winning) can mean devastation for the United States of America. How foolish will we look if we allow for the president of the United States to have actively progressive dementia that compromises his ability to even speak?

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Title: Re: Protests - Why riot, loot and attack?
Post by: Kwon on July 09, 2020, 07:46:51 AM
RIOT


LOOT


ATTACK
Title: Re: Protests - Why riot, loot and attack?
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 09, 2020, 07:51:25 AM
mental weakness, lack of physical and mental strength, ban together and attack in packs
(dindu's on the daily, antifa pussies, blm cowards, liberals in general) very sick, weak minded individuals, need to group together
cannot function own their own to have a job, raise a family, pay off a house, work hard, have a great credit rating forged by a good and proper life, have a retirement or setup to be paid when retired, etc.

just follow around lefties, on their phone like weak minded herd mentality
conwardice
Title: Re: Protests - Why riot, loot and attack?
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on July 10, 2020, 08:35:43 PM
mental weakness, lack of physical and mental strength, ban together and attack in packs
(dindu's on the daily, antifa pussies, blm cowards, liberals in general) very sick, weak minded individuals, need to group together
cannot function own their own to have a job, raise a family, pay off a house, work hard, have a great credit rating forged by a good and proper life, have a retirement or setup to be paid when retired, etc.

just follow around lefties, on their phone like weak minded herd mentality
conwardice

Sleepy Joe should be in charge of Nukes !.
Title: Re: Protests - Why riot, loot and attack?
Post by: Skeletor on July 12, 2020, 11:37:45 AM
After letting the cities burn they now ask for money? Maybe they should get the money from BLM, the rioters, the looters and the state and local officials who allowed this shit to happen.

Feds deny Minnesota request for aid to rebuild after unrest

The federal government has denied a request from Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz for federal funds to rebuild and repair fire damage from the unrest that followed George Floyd’s death.

The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that Walz’s spokesman Teddy Tschann confirmed that the request for federal aid was denied, saying the governor is “disappointed.”

Walz had asked President Donald Trump on July 2 to declare a “major disaster” in a request to the Federal Emergency Management Agency because of extensive damage to public infrastructure following the death of Floyd on May 25 after a white Minneapolis police officer pressed his knee against the handcuffed Black man’s neck for nearly eight minutes. Four since-fired officers have been charged in the case.

A preliminary assessment of damage found more than $15 million of damages directly related to the fires. Around 1,500 businesses were damaged. Among the public structures destroyed was a Minneapolis police station that was a focus of the protests. Current estimates of the total damage exceed $500 million, the governor wrote in his disaster aid request.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/12/george-floyd-feds-deny-minnesota-request-aid-rebuild/5423569002/