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if i do 6 sets of 10 thats 60 reps right? if i do 4 sets of 20 thats 80 reps right?
but if the weight is different in the 60 versus the 80 and the only thing thats changes is the time, i wait in between these so called sets
then what is a set? isnt it just rest pause? a long continual set?
now stay with me. if your doing legs 4 weeks out and your still strong. can i do 40 sets for hams and quads and not over train if my reps are low, say 10 reps but i do 6 sets per exercise. 8 exercises
look at jays face here. have you ever seen it look like this? deep eye sockets. almost asleep while sitting between sets, then totally overun with animal drive while completing a set. only a few have felt this. its quite the experience. one min your out, next its give me more.
remember he is comming off his best showing ever a year prior, so nothing changed, same program. pedal to the metal
only competitors would know what im talking here.
only serious trainers need add imput to thread.
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then what is a set? isnt it just rest pause? a long continual set?
I guess you could look at it that way.
As far as I am concerned, a set consists of as many reps as I can do until I reach muscle failure, or just shy of failure. Each rep is performed as fast as I can perform it on the way to reaching failure.
The time between what I define as "sets" is the amount of time needed to roughly perform at the same level as I did in the previous set, with the expectation that my strength and energy levels will decline as my workout progresses.
I suppose you can call it all one continual set if you wanted to - but, IMO, reaching failure or close to failure is what defines the end of a so-called "set".
But then again, this is bodybuilding - we use the term "symmetry" to refer to the proportions of a competitor's physique, when symmetry, by definition, refers to left/right balance.
I have no idea how the term symmetry got hijacked in the bodybuilding world to mean something completely different from the dictionary definition.
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???
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TLDR...
I think what your saying is it's really just time under tension for a set? Not really reps that matter... I can agree to this to a degree.
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TLDR...
I think what your saying is it's really just time under tension for a set? Not really reps that matter... I can agree to this to a degree.
Yes. Time under tension. Nothing really new was stated above.
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if i do 6 sets of 10 thats 60 reps right? if i do 4 sets of 20 thats 80 reps right?
but if the weight is different in the 60 versus the 80 and the only thing thats changes is the time, i wait in between these so called sets
then what is a set? isnt it just rest pause? a long continual set?
now stay with me. if your doing legs 4 weeks out and your still strong. can i do 40 sets for hams and quads and not over train if my reps are low, say 10 reps but i do 6 sets per exercise. 8 exercises
look at jays face here. have you ever seen it look like this? deep eye sockets. almost asleep while sitting between sets, then totally overun with animal drive while completing a set. only a few have felt this. its quite the experience. one min your out, next its give me more.
remember he is comming off his best showing ever a year prior, so nothing changed, same program. pedal to the metal
only competitors would know what im talking here.
only serious trainers need add imput to thread.
I used to work out at his gym in Vegas and I never saw him lifting anywhere close to that much weight.
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This thread belongs in the Training Section.
Sorry Spicoli, but you get an F.
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Your effort is the percentage of max and how many reps and sets youre doing of that percentage of max
You can never be 100 percent sure of 1rm max of course but close enough to compare and mathmatically analyze workouts at different weights reps and sets
Thank you me johnson falcon
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only competitors would know what im talking here.
only serious trainers need add imput to thread.
= you only want posts that agree with yours
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groundbreaking , you've disproved the whole basis of the weider system. more useless ramblings of the resident steroid hag.
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All I know is when I go to the gym its war and I unleash hell
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OK, but explain this to me. Goofy is a dog and he walks and talks like a person, while Pluto is a is also a dog but he can only act like a dog. What the fuck?
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woooooshhh
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Factor-Training-Scientific-Approach/dp/0809230712
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woooooshhh
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Factor-Training-Scientific-Approach/dp/0809230712
I actually trained that stupid system. Yes, it is a scam. Static contraction is an even bigger scam they Sisco and Little were pushing and had Tony Robbins endorsing it.
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= you only want posts that agree with yours
Careful, Epic will call you an annoying "keyboard protester". :)
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Sorry guys I was high as hell last night and thought I was onto something
I still think it’s just about the time you wait or don’t wait between sets that matters
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Sorry guys I was high as hell last night and thought I was onto something
I still think it’s just about the time you wait or don’t wait between sets that matters
But what if you only do one set?
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Such nonsense
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Sorry guys I was high as hell last night and thought I was onto something
I still think it’s just about the time you wait or don’t wait between sets that matters
I think you’re right on about this. Rest and “recovery” between sets is vital but what I’ve found out is what works for me doesn’t work for everyone.
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I think you’re right on about this. Rest and “recovery” between sets is vital but what I’ve found out is what works for me doesn’t work for everyone.
id say no one wants to be out of shape like you, so whatever works for you, people shoul avoid.
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Rest between sets is for me the only way I can lift heavy and gain strength and recover
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OK, but explain this to me. Goofy is a dog and he walks and talks like a person, while Pluto is a is also a dog but he can only act like a dog. What the fuck?
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What’s always bugged me was how scooby doo couldn’t talk but crappy doo could
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What’s always bugged me was how scooby doo couldn’t talk but crappy doo could
its because they are cartoons...
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id say no one wants to be out of shape like you, so whatever works for you, people shoul avoid.
Great point, you looked good juiced to the gills and now you're a clinical study for the health defects of obesity.
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What’s always bugged me was how scooby doo couldn’t talk but crappy doo could
Goofy could talk but Pluto couldn't?
Why does Goofy (a dog) have a dog anyway?
It would be like if Mickey Mouse had pet mice at home.
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Goofy could talk but Pluto couldn't?
Why does Goofy (a dog) have a dog anyway?
It would be like if Mickey Mouse had pet mice at home.
Goofy has his own pet is symbolism
You are just a pet to Disney
Disney ruined sports for me
ESPN
My beloved nfl network
Does cbs own nfl channel Network ?
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Power Factor Training.......I've used this system with some very good results for the purpose it was intended for. My purpose at the time was for sports.. . Even have the book ...somewhere. (actually a very badly edited and set up little book, but that's another story) Of course it's specialized training protocol not meant for the average BB'er.
It's designed for movements from 4 to 6 inches, working the strongest positions of the push and the pull. An example of the push (moving an object away from the body) would be lockout benches. For the pull (moving an object towards the body) would be starting pullup's from a full stretch arm position. Also included are DL's, BB Hacks and squats (in whatever variety)
It's not a full range complete system and not designed so. It would be a a more rounded system if full range exercise were also included. Than your full bench could more or less improve a bit also . Some lifters will do heavier 4-5 inch lockouts after a serious bench workout anyway, though not every workout..
I and other players have use this before and during football season. I played defense lineman in college, where inner line play depends on pushing and pulling short range arm and shoulder strength under great resistance. Including leg and calf leverage. The Power Factor training helped me in those cases.
I wouldn't call it a scam, bogus or whatever. It does work for the increase of short range strength and very well. Muscle mass has also been noted in some cases. Like everything else in training, got to try it yourself and make up your own mind. Power Factor training does not influence the other two phases of a muscle contraction to any impressive degree. It can't be called a complete workout system. But you will be handling a massive amount of weight for a very short ROM, if that pleases you.
Good Luck.
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Power Factor Training.......I've used this system with some very good results for the purpose it was intended for. My purpose at the time was for sports.. . Even have the book ...somewhere. (actually a very badly edited and set up little book, but that's another story) Of course it's specialized training protocol not meant for the average BB'er.
It's designed for movements from 4 to 6 inches, working the strongest positions of the push and the pull. An example of the push (moving an object away from the body) would be lockout benches. For the pull (moving an object towards the body) would be starting pullup's from a full stretch arm position. Also included are DL's, BB Hacks and squats (in whatever variety)
It's not a full range complete system and not designed so. It would be a a more rounded system if full range exercise were also included. Than your full bench could more or less improve a bit also . Some lifters will do heavier 4-5 inch lockouts after a serious bench workout anyway, though not every workout..
I and other players have use this before and during football season. I played defense lineman in college, where inner line play depends on pushing and pulling short range arm and shoulder strength under great resistance. Including leg and calf leverage. The Power Factor training helped me in those cases.
I wouldn't call it a scam, bogus or whatever. It does work for the increase of short range strength and very well. Muscle mass has also been noted in some cases. Like everything else in training, got to try it yourself and make up your own mind. Power Factor training does not influence the other two phases of a muscle contraction to any impressive degree. It can't be called a complete workout system. But you will be handling a massive amount of weight for a very short ROM, if that pleases you.
Good Luck.
The problem is that they advertised it as a full system, the best on the planet, and said you would make gains strength wise throughout the whole range of movement.
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Over hyped, of course. After all it's BB'ing. The claim was that all three phase of muscle contraction would be involved almost equally, but that was a rudimentary and misleading statement.
The practice of short range lockouts and short range pull workouts can work well. Even static holds for that matter. If the purpose was to increase ligament/tendon recruitment, than Power Factor might be a excellent start. But as a general protocol for the BB'er. it falls short.
As I stated before, it worked well for my purpose when playing football. Buy I also included full ROM exercises during that time.. I'll follow the Power Factor method from time to time now. If only for the variety of training it offers.
Good Luck.
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can i do power factor training and cybergenics at the same time?
or would it be to effective?
would it work so well i dont need to train and instead just write about how effective it is?
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People who do serious HIT do measure a set's duration with equal importance to the number of reps, since sets are not repeated for any exercise a set is nothing more than the length of time the muscles can work under maximum tension until failure. The whole 3x10 thing is a bit of a meme.
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lift weight, lower weight
repeat
plate by plate, 500lb squat
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can i do power factor training and cybergenics at the same time?
or would it be to effective?
would it work so well i dont need to train and instead just write about how effective it is?
Cybergenics' volume alone will crush you. Adding Power Factor to it may kill you.
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Cybergenics' volume alone will crush you. Adding Power Factor to it may kill you.
damn son
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damn son
I did Cybergenics in college and it was pretty exhausting with loads of volume. I can't imagine throwing another system on top of it unless you have a burning desire to get rhabdo.
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damn