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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: 240 is Back on April 20, 2006, 07:02:41 AM
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I just heard back from him.
He's still in great shape and welcomes the opportunity to get back onstage.
Ron, if you want to give him a call, we can get the wheels in motion with the fan support thing, and other things. Rob
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Crap, I thought the show was *this* weekend.
Nice detective work, 240, but do you think the hype will last another 3 weeks? Does a GetBig pep rally have that much staying power?
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This isn't a pep rally. It's a call for judging reform and to somewhat legitimize the inconsistent judging.
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This isn't a pep rally. It's a call for judging reform and to somewhat legitimize the inconsistent judging.
hahahahaahahahahahhaah
Yeah, I'm sure the billion+ engine that is AMI looks to getbig.
What a moron.
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This isn't a pep rally. It's a call for judging reform and to somewhat legitimize the inconsistent judging.
This is a 240 whine fest, nothing more.
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Hey Rob, Your boy Mustafa wanted to do to the show but had to drop out - he was your hot ticket item last month, why not help him with $$$ so he can do it? You claim he was hosed in the judging too.
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Hey Rob, Your boy Mustafa wanted to do to the show but had to drop out - he was your hot ticket item last month, why not help him with $$$ so he can do it? You claim he was hosed in the judging too.
He needs to rest up for the Olympia - people here are going to support Mustafa by buying his dvd on april 21st - be there!
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I just heard back from him.
He's still in great shape and welcomes the opportunity to get back onstage.
Ron, if you want to give him a call, we can get the wheels in motion with the fan support thing, and other things. Rob
set it up and i'll donate to it...
now that gary strydom is in it'll be a good comparison. Chick should throw his hat in the ring too!
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How about this
240 is pushing this campaign so Rob fronts all the money. That way Rusty has a guarantee income for the show/hotel/etc and then Getbiggers who support this, send the money to paypal and 240 can recoup his expenses from this. Any extra income gets donated to charity.
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How about this
240 is pushing this campaign so Rob fronts all the money. That way Rusty has a guarantee income for the show/hotel/etc and then Getbiggers who support this, send the money to paypal and 240 can recoup his expenses from this. Any extra income gets donated to charity.
In another shocking twist you're riding 240's jock again. Nice to see you're not predictable.
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This isn't a pep rally. It's a call for judging reform and to somewhat legitimize the inconsistent judging.
haha, yeah i'm sure they really give a shit what you think. a guy who doesn't buy tickets for shows, doesn't buy the videos, doesn't buy the magazines and judging by your physique clearly doesn't buy any supplements. you generate zero revenue for them.
what does the ifbb stand to gain if they cater to you? you hate everything the ifbb does because your brain's been coated in pdi jizz. you don't even care about the ifbb athletes, you just want to play revolutionary and stand up against the big business so you can support the underdog.
your "protest" involves maybe 10 people who aren't buying anything anyway. how can you boycott something you've never bought?
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how can you boycott something you've never bought?
Legit question actually.
YIP
Zack
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haha, yeah i'm sure they really give a shit what you think. a guy who doesn't buy tickets for shows, doesn't buy the videos, doesn't buy the magazines and judging by your physique clearly doesn't buy any supplements. you generate zero revenue for them.
what does the ifbb stand to gain if they cater to you? you hate everything the ifbb does because your brain's been coated in pdi jizz. you don't even care about the ifbb athletes, you just want to play revolutionary and stand up against the big business so you can support the underdog.
your "protest" involves maybe 10 people who aren't buying anything anyway. how can you boycott something you've never bought?
some fans wanna give a guy some money he should have won last week so he can compete in a show in which the promoter assures us will have 100% impartial judging and that carries some decent prize money...
isn't a boycott of AMI/IFBB at all...
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some fans wanna give a guy some money he should have won last week so he can compete in a show in which the promoter assures us will have 100% impartial judging and that carries some decent prize money...
isn't a boycott of AMI/IFBB at all...
um but aint some of the judges from last weeks show doing this show too?
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Yeah, I would prefer not have the hassle of touching any $- I'd prefer ROn or Mindspin or one of the longtime guys do it. And I do buy supplements, I do visit their sites (and therefore read their ads), I do attend local shows, I attend powerlifting meets frequently now also.
You gotta admit, it's going to be cool to see just how good Jeffers can be against the midlevel IFBB guys, with the eyes really on the judges. With all the clown icons looking at them, with all the emails they've been getting, they have to be a tad more impartial this week.
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Yeah, I would prefer not have the hassle of touching any $- I'd prefer ROn or Mindspin or one of the longtime guys do it. And I do buy supplements, I do visit their sites (and therefore read their ads), I do attend local shows, I attend powerlifting meets frequently now also.
You gotta admit, it's going to be cool to see just how good Jeffers can be against the midlevel IFBB guys, with the eyes really on the judges. With all the clown icons looking at them, with all the emails they've been getting, they have to be a tad more impartial this week.
he got 12th at the 2005 Ironman - great posing routine and a great physique but a shitty placing there too
I'd help sponsor his trip to the Shawn Ray Classic - keep me posted
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I'd help sponsor his trip to the Shawn Ray Classic - keep me posted
Will do. He replied that he's very interested. I know Ron would love to have Rusty be the first board-sponsored athlete. Hopefully it'll come together. I'm pledging my $ as well!
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i don't mean to sound like an ifbb fanboy because i'm not, i get just as pissed at the bullshit judging calls as anyone else. but i also realize that i don't have a magazine subscription, the only supplements i regularly have are multivitamins and rarely do i get protein when it's on sale. i don't go to the shows, i don't buy the videos. the ifbb makes practically nothing off of me, so how can i expect them to care what i think?
this entire "rally" is being mounted by a very small number of people who, even if the ifbb did do everything they wanted, wouldn't suddenly start buying tickets to every show and subscriptions to every magazine. they offer no incentive and seem to expect the ifbb to change just because a small handful of guys on a message board want them to.
everyone's riding rusty's bandwagon and crying that he got a bad placing for no other reason than bob won that show. if vince taylor had been in the show, gotten second place, and everyone else was shifted back leaving rusty in 9th, this wouldn't have happened. you'd all be concentrating on how much of a travesty it was that vince got screwed and start going on and on about how ever since don youngblood beat him in 2002 the ifbb's screwed him at every chance they get.
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Rob, you never addressed the fact that you were crying foul on Mustafa's placings last month... He wanted to do the Colorado show but had to drop out due to $$$. Why aren't you helping him, isn't that what would be the right thing to do considering you're part of TEAM MUSTAFA?
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Rob, you never addressed the fact that you were crying foul on Mustafa's placings last month... He wanted to do the Colorado show but had to drop out due to $$$. Why aren't you helping him, isn't that what would be the right thing to do considering you're part of TEAM MUSTAFA?
Mustafa expressed that it wasn't feasible. Rusty is still in contest shape and is dying to redeem that 8th place finish. Which do you think is more realistic, Isaac?
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I could swing $2k in ad revenue for Shawn TODAY with a quick launch of the Rusty Statement Show- Letting the physiques do the talking at the Colorado Pro.
When can we expect the $2k in ad revenue?
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When can we expect the $2k in ad revenue?
Where's the place ticket that was the other half of that deal? ;)
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haha, yeah i'm sure they really give a shit what you think. a guy who doesn't buy tickets for shows, doesn't buy the videos, doesn't buy the magazines and judging by your physique clearly doesn't buy any supplements. you generate zero revenue for them.
what does the ifbb stand to gain if they cater to you? you hate everything the ifbb does because your brain's been coated in pdi jizz. you don't even care about the ifbb athletes, you just want to play revolutionary and stand up against the big business so you can support the underdog.
your "protest" involves maybe 10 people who aren't buying anything anyway. how can you boycott something you've never bought?
Not agreeing with all the points, but there are many valid points here. The concerns of people who post on message boards, looking at free webcasts and pics...as the basic extent of following bodybuilding are hardly their main concerns. Not being rude, as I myself am all over the free webcasts/pics etc :D
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To me it's pretty funny, b/c he's too dumb to know he's wrong. I can see him furiously typing with those chubby fists thinking that he's making amazing points. However, I think we all know that rob/240 is mentally 'off'.
Here's an example to strengthen my point about being 'off'. Right here 240 is threatening to kill MattT. In an earlier post he (rob) said that he has already called the DEA, and 67 ifbb judges. Matt did not react in a way that 240 wanted, but instead Matt told him that he was a loser. Then 240 created several accounts (skittles is one name I can think of), and posted a crap load of death threats on getbig and on his own board. Here's one.
"the most dangerous man in the world is the man who has nothing to lose. Matt may as well get those crosshairs tattooed on him for that miami show.
i was a different man back then, mike. I have some health probs that I won't elaborate on, but I will say that I have grown up a lot since then. " -240
Let's cut the demagogic bullshit. Doesn't matter what 240 or bust looks like in this case. I think that's just foul play.
What's with him claiming:
"the most dangerous man in the world is the man who has nothing to lose. Matt may as well get those crosshairs tattooed on him for that miami show"
Nothing to lose? Why didn't 240 have anything to lose back then?
YIP
Zack
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haha, yeah i'm sure they really give a shit what you think. a guy who doesn't buy tickets for shows, doesn't buy the videos, doesn't buy the magazines and judging by your physique clearly doesn't buy any supplements. you generate zero revenue for them.
what does the ifbb stand to gain if they cater to you? you hate everything the ifbb does because your brain's been coated in pdi jizz. you don't even care about the ifbb athletes, you just want to play revolutionary and stand up against the big business so you can support the underdog.
your "protest" involves maybe 10 people who aren't buying anything anyway. how can you boycott something you've never bought?
Best post ever. 10 people are here telling 200 other people (and those numbers are dwindling all the time) about how they're not going to support a sport they've never supported before. But they are going to support a new organization run by someone who never cared about any athlete but only how to line his own pockets and manipulate the easily manipulated.
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no matter what 240 does, he will always be known as the dumbass who had an extra period when his personal info got posted even though he'd done it numerous times himself. now he's starting a crusade solely because he doesn't like bob chick winning a show.
240 didn't even know who rusty jeffers was until he read about him on here. left to his own devices he would have said pavol deserved to win, he needed people who actually know their shit to tell him rusty deserved it so now he's jumping on that bandwagon. all that matters to robby boy is that he has someone he can point to and say "he should have beat bob".
lucius, yes, 240 is crazy. and not in the scary, dangerous way. more like the retarded kid that's been in the special ed class for 8 years and screams any time you say his name crazy. mcfarland, who probably had the greatest meltdown before 240, called him a pussy amongst other things. 240 then started deleting threads on his own board, proving that he himself was everything he was bitching about on here.
then he started crying to ron over here for help. isn't that a kick in the ass? 240 does nothing but cry and moan on here about freedom of speech and how he should be allowed to do whatever he wants, then when he starts getting attacked mower-style the first thing he does is run crying to ron, asking him to make them stop.
weed, yeah. that's all true. he registered an account to tell us 240 had cancer and his liver was toxic, and that he was dying. that was why he was so angry all the time and that's why mattT should be afraid of him. no one bought it. not one person. 240 immediately came back supremely pissed off, and got even angrier when he was told that even if this 'skittles' person wasn't 240 himself and was telling the truth, still no one would have given a shit.
basically he got told that he could die of cancer and the only people who would get mad would be the people who got ripped off by paying for unfinished webpages.
240 can never call anyone a pussy as long as he lives, because his veins actually pump vaginal fluids. he is a walking, retardedly-talking pussy. period. all the webpages he makes will never change that. he can do all the rallies and protests and spend every waking moment sniffling and moaning about bob winning a show or rusty getting screwed over, but he's still the internet's biggest pussy.
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Wait a goddamn minute here mang.
He then reregistered under several handles. One of them, skittles. claimed to be 240's friend. At first Skittles said how "he's dying (hence nothing to lose)", and that none of us knew the real 240.
An imaginary friend? Actually, I followed the thread, but missed this part. And the part about how he was dying as well.
Skittles also said that 240's toxic liver was the reason he could never be big
He could never be big? I know 240 claims to have been 220 lbs at one point?
and that's why he looked up to bodybuilders.
In what way is 240 or Bust 'looking up' to bodybuilders?
Amazing.
YIP
Zack
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Wait a goddamn minute here mang.
An imaginary friend? Actually, I followed the thread, but missed this part. And the part about how he was dying as well.
He could never be big? I know 240 claims to have been 220 lbs at one point?
In what way is 240 or Bust 'looking up' to bodybuilders?
Amazing.
YIP
Zack
Hedgehog, you do fuel the fire. You have a very dry sense of humor, which is always funny.
Yeah, 240 as Skittles playing 240's close friend said that b/c his liver was toxic was why he couldn't get big and had all of these mixed emotions towards bodybuilsers.
Note: I changed this, b/c after I thought about it, I bet a lot of you hit the 'report to mod' button just to see those quotes. Kind of funny.
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But they are going to support a new organization run by someone who never cared about any athlete but only how to line his own pockets and manipulate the easily manipulated.
You are mistaken.
In the past 20 years, when did Ben or Joe Weider ever take a loss on any IFBB pro show?
Compare that to how much the promoters, athletes, and fans have lost on shows over the years. Wayne D was one of the only people who had the balls to try to keep the Weider family from raping the sport so badly.
Yes, I went there.
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You are mistaken.
In the past 20 years, when did Ben or Joe Weider ever take a loss on any IFBB pro show?
Compare that to how much the promoters, athletes, and fans have lost on shows over the years. Wayne D was one of the only people who had the balls to try to keep the Weider family from raping the sport so badly.
Yes, I went there.
Thanks amatuer photographer. It's a good thing all amateur photgraphers are in the 'know'. I know for share holder meetings they always bring in amateur photographers.
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You are mistaken.
In the past 20 years, when did Ben or Joe Weider ever take a loss on any IFBB pro show?
Compare that to how much the promoters, athletes, and fans have lost on shows over the years. Wayne D was one of the only people who had the balls to try to keep the Weider family from raping the sport so badly.
Yes, I went there.
The Weiders have never ever taken a loss on a show. They get their money whether the show does good or not. If it does bad they immediatley turn there back and let the promtoer fend for himself. But when it does good they are there making sure everyone gets the illusion it was there baby.
DO you know how much the Weiders make for the Olympia. I do. Ain't a bad payday for doing absoultely nothing and putting not one dime in. Hell the expense alone to bring the Weiders and their families to the Olympia exceed $60,000 for a less than a week. You dipshits who think anything other than the Weiders are in this business for themselves only are delerious and know absolutely nothing about what happens behind the scene.
Funny how no one even mentions how they hide behind a non-profit status. But it is not a U.S. non profit status. Get your shit straight before popping off.
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Thanks amatuer photographer. It's a good thing all amateur photgraphers are in the 'know'. I know for share holder meetings they always bring in amateur photographers.
Are you implying that the IFBB is a for-profit corporation?
No, you couldn't possibly be implying that, could you? Hmm...
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The Weiders have never ever taken a loss on a show. They get their money whether the show does good or not. If it does bad they immediatley turn there back and let the promtoer fend for himself. But when it does good they are there making sure everyone gets the illusion it was there baby.
DO you know how much the Weiders make for the Olympia. I do. Ain't a bad payday for doing absoultely nothing and putting not one dime in. Hell the expense alone to bring the Weiders and their families to the Olympia exceed $60,000 for a less than a week. You dipshits who think anything other than the Weiders are in this business for themselves only are delerious and know absolutely nothing about what happens behind the scene.
Funny how no one even mentions how they hide behind a non-profit status. But it is not a U.S. non profit status. Get your shit straight before popping off.
Exactly - they get paid no matter what happens to an event.
But the IFBB counts on its fetch-it boys like Weedouttheweak to tow the company line, no matter how indefensible the position is.
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The thing is they are a Canada non-profit not U.S.. They take the checks from promoters and cash them in the US and then the money is trasferred to their Canada accounts. They don't even bother paying the taxes on the money. As Shawn money-savvy as this is, it just shows another way of how they take advantage. And do you know overe the years how much they have made in clothing sales for the IFBB and NPC. Oh my! Yet when an IFBB show went bad they hid their asses and let the promoter take the shit. It's no wonder Shawn supports them so much. They are so much alike.
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let me just throw this out there.
the ifbb started out from weider's passion to promote bodybuilding and bodybuilders. i agree that the pdi is a good idea because we need competition, but to act like the weiders are unique in that they do what they do for profit, as though the guys running the pdi are going to be selfless and generous, is naive.
the pdi will help in that they will show the ifbb what they are doing wrong, much like the wwf/wcw wars helped put both feds at the top of their game. it and the ifbb will, at best, coexist and bring interest. the pdi is not going to be saviour of the bodybuilding industry that eventually takes all of the athletes away from the evil ifbb. sorry.
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in short, money laundering
While you may be technically correct, the Law of Deletive Properties says your words will not remain here for very long.
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let me just throw this out there.
the ifbb started out from weider's passion to promote bodybuilding and bodybuilders. i agree that the pdi is a good idea because we need competition, but to act like the weiders are unique in that they do what they do for profit, as though the guys running the pdi are going to be selfless and generous, is naive.
the pdi will help in that they will show the ifbb what they are doing wrong, much like the wwf/wcw wars helped put both feds at the top of their game. it and the ifbb will, at best, coexist and bring interest. the pdi is not going to be saviour of the bodybuilding industry that eventually takes all of the athletes away from the evil ifbb. sorry.
I don't have a problem with someone trying to earn a profit, but sell it as what it is instead of trying to couch it as something else entirely. That's not the purpose of a bodybuilding federation - we have religion for that.
I learned long ago that this industry - like almost every other in the world - is all about exploitation. I applaud the people who are upfront about that reality. Those who lie and try to disguise it as anything but should be called out for it.
PDI athletes, owners, promoters, sponsors, etc. will all be out to make a profit. As a consumer, I want to see them do well, because that might eventually lead to competition for the IFBB, which would then force the IFBB - which should still be dominant two decades from now - to improve its product and VALUE, something they refuse to do now, because they don't have to.
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Hey Rob, Your boy Mustafa wanted to do to the show but had to drop out - he was your hot ticket item last month, why not help him with $$$ so he can do it? You claim he was hosed in the judging too.
Mustafa's not even doing the show?
So, it's basically Darrem and a bunch of scrubs, right?
Monster excitement. ::)
Hey... get Rusty to do the show, then get Bob to enter as well. At least that way there will be some interest and people will pay attention.
When the judges give it to Bob again, both Rusty supporters and Darrem fans will have something to talk about!
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nobody care about colorado show what a location
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PDI athletes, owners, promoters, sponsors, etc. will all be out to make a profit. As a consumer, I want to see them do well, because that might eventually lead to competition for the IFBB, which would then force the IFBB - which should still be dominant two decades from now - to improve its product and VALUE, something they refuse to do now, because they don't have to.
exactly what i'm saying. people are acting like the pdi is going to save bodybuilding and give a utopia for all athletes who sign up into it. provided it does well, what it's going to do is make the ifbb improve their game, and that's the optimal result.
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240 I'm lost. I would love to see Rusty and I would be happy to pitch in to some kind of fan fund travel expenses if something like that got going. Here is where I'm lost. I know you think there is some kind of big judge conspiracy. How does your effort to get Rusty to the Colorado Pro have anything to do with this? I don't get it? Is this just so you can freak out on another show if Rusty places lower again. You can do this positive or negative. The positive thing for Rusty would be in the building a supportive fan following. Politically it gets harder to ignore a fan with such a following. The negative way would be to rip the winner/show to shreds if Rusty doesn't win. I'm just wondering what your exact angle is here. If this is just part of a post plan to bash the colorado pro and Shawn, that's not fair to anyone including Rusty. Just wondering! Positive, I'm in. Negative BS falk that...
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I'm actually working to get Ron to handle everything, so there is no 240/Chick grudge angle to this. Rusty got screwed and it'd be interesting to see him try to avenge his 8th place finish in another show. The competition would be harder, but it sure would make the Colorado Pro a little more interesting. My money is on Haider to take the whole show anyway :) But it'd be cool to see a feelgood story if Rusty could maybe scoot into the top 5 or 6 at an IFBB show.
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Let's see Bob compete against Rusty again at the Colorado show. You don't have the balls do you Bob!!!!!!!
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nobody care about colorado show what a location
Yea what a stupid idea. Like putting a show in Columbus Ohio or something ::) Who the hell would do that, it makes no sense to have a show in a large metropolitan area that's centrally located in the US. How dumb ::)
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I'm actually working to get Ron to handle everything, so there is no 240/Chick grudge angle to this. Rusty got screwed and it'd be interesting to see him try to avenge his 8th place finish in another show. The competition would be harder, but it sure would make the Colorado Pro a little more interesting. My money is on Haider to take the whole show anyway :) But it'd be cool to see a feelgood story if Rusty could maybe scoot into the top 5 or 6 at an IFBB show.
Excellent post, if true it's great to hear. What the hell am I saying ;D Yes 240, it would be great to see Rusty do good and I really like seeing you involved in a positive way. Thumbs up ;D
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the IFBB should underwrite his ticket for their screw up
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Yea what a stupid idea. Like putting a show in Columbus Ohio or something ::) Who the hell would do that, it makes no sense to have a show in a large metropolitan area that's centrally located in the US. How dumb ::)
Denver is not "centrally located". It's basically in the middle of nowhere, so it's not in driving distance for anyone. That's not true of Columbus, which is drivable from like a dozen major cities, and a very short flight from several more.
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Monster stupid place to host a bodybuilding show.
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denver is 5,280 feet above sea level in the rocky mountains
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I'm not talking about me... I wouldn't go to a "bodybuilding show" if it were being held next door. I mean that, in general, attendance will be a lot higher if it is held someplace that is within driving distance of a large population base. Only hardcore fans (and there aren't that many of them) are gonna make plans in advance, set up airline tickets, etc, but a lot more people might drive 3 or 4 hours on a whim to go catch a show.
Well if you're thinking of most fans then you're thinking of where they can all FLY for the best price. Denver isn't a bad location considering that, FACT... Driving is going to cost as much as picking up a round trip ticket for 200 bucks for people even a state away so flying should be the first consideration if you're really thinking of all the fans right?
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I wouldn't be talking about P3NG anyone "Beserker" the only thing you P3WN is a bad case of BO and halitosis.
The bes way to get to Denver from LA at least is Amtrak. When I competed there it was exactly the same cost as a roundtrip plane ticket. I wasn't in a big hurry so I took Amtrak. It was so awesome and fun. And I like how someone tried to compare the Arnold to the Colorado Pro. That was funny.
Location Location Location. 3 very important words. Denver, Denver, Denver. Out of 10 locations ranks 9th after Nome Alaska.
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The competition would be harder, but it sure would make the Colorado Pro a little more interesting. My money is on Haider to take the whole show anyway :) But it'd be cool to see a feelgood story if Rusty could maybe scoot into the top 5 or 6 at an IFBB show.
Rusty has done enough feel good stories, don't ya think...
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The bes way to get to Denver from LA at least is Amtrak. When I competed there it was exactly the same cost as a roundtrip plane ticket. I wasn't in a big hurry so I took Amtrak. It was so awesome and fun. And I like how someone tried to compare the Arnold to the Colorado Pro. That was funny.
Location Location Location. 3 very important words. Denver, Denver, Denver. Out of 10 locations ranks 9th after Nome Alaska.
1. No, the bes way is by plane. Amtrak will save you 100 bucks and take you an extra 2 days which for most means extra time off from working which kind of ruins the point of saving 100 bucks.
2. Nobody compared the Arnold Classic SHOW to the Colorado Pro SHOW. ::)
3. You think Nome is a better place for a new BB event than Denver ::) No please, don't share your top 7 selections :-X
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Hmm - You know, I guess no one lives in Denver. There must be no stadiums there either. No professional football teams, no professional basketball teams, no professional anything... hmm... no colleges or university there either. Just a whole bunch of fields of snow.
Truth be it, there may be an untapped audience who would like to see a professional pro show, and will drive to 1-2 hours it takes to get there, of which there is there is a population of over 3 million people.
http://www.metrodenver.org/documents/dataCenter/Demo_population_municipalincounties_2004.xls
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Brutal business decisions
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It was. There are two pro shows in California, one pro show in Texas, one in Vegas, one in Ohio, one in Jersey, one in New York, one in Niagara Falls area.
They had one in Atlanta, did ok. They had one in Florida, did ok. They had one in North Carolina, did ok.
Shawn is going for a new demographic that just may give him the support that the bodybuilding and fitness community is looking for in Denver.
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1. No, the bes way is by plane. Amtrak will save you 100 bucks and take you an extra 2 days which for most means extra time off from working which kind of ruins the point of saving 100 bucks.
2. Nobody compared the Arnold Classic SHOW to the Colorado Pro SHOW. ::)
3. You think Nome is a better place for a new BB event than Denver ::) No please, don't share your top 7 selections :-X
If you read I said I did it cause I wasn't in a hurry. Of course its longer but it is beautiful and if you aren't in a hurry it is allot better. From what you wrote you said sarcastically that why would anyone put on a show in Columbus, OH. Last time I checked the Arnold is there. And if you read and comprehended what I said is that Denver is ranked 9th with Nome being the only place worse is ranked 10th. Now please don't make me grade you on everything. I hope this helps and please try to retain the explanations for next class. And I am sorry but taking off work has never been a problem with me so I didn't take that into account.
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It was. There are two pro shows in California, one pro show in Texas, one in Vegas, one in Ohio, one in Jersey, one in New York, one in Niagara Falls area.
They had one in Atlanta, did ok. They had one in Florida, did ok. They had one in North Carolina, did ok.
Shawn is going for a new demographic that just may give him the support that the bodybuilding and fitness community is looking for in Denver.
Denver is a mountain town. Skiing, football and basketball are its main sports focus. You are right though just could be that hidden community of BB fanatics that have been waiting for a show like this so they can get out of the house. Shawn cannot afford to do okay in this show. What he is doing is very expensive and the way he is spending money without having money coming in to cover the costs make it seem that much more impossible to be a success.
He is relaying on his attendance at a BB show to make up for the extra money being spent. Ain't happening no way. I know it all depends on how much in sponsorship money he raised. But I still can't see how this show will come up anything short of $25,000- $40,000 in the hole. I don't know allot of people who would support this show if it comes up short. And he could have easily made it profiable big time if he was smart. But he kept to his guns and now he'll suffer the consequences.
I was the same way the first year. My eyes were way bigger than they should have been. And I lost. But I did learn from my mistake. The next year I lost less than $500. And my show still cost close to $60,000.
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If you read I said I did it cause I wasn't in a hurry. Of course its longer but it is beautiful and if you aren't in a hurry it is allot better. From what you wrote you said sarcastically that why would anyone put on a show in Columbus, OH. Last time I checked the Arnold is there. And if you read and comprehended what I said is that Denver is ranked 9th with Nome being the only place worse is ranked 10th. Now please don't make me grade you on everything. I hope this helps and please try to retain the explanations for next class. And I am sorry but taking off work has never been a problem with me so I didn't take that into account.
::) You made the travel statement when we were talking about Denver not being a logical place because of the travel restrictions with Denver being located in the middle of nowhere. That was the context of the argument you jumped into. If you were not making a relevant statement to the argurment you should have said, "on a side note..." I got that you took the trip because you had the time but you jumped into the debate context with the opening line that Amtrak is the best way to travel to Denver then explained your reason at the time for making the choice. The Columbus OH comment was sarcasm. Someone making fun of choosing Denver as a location for a show, go figure someone chose Columbus... GET IT ::) It in no way compares the shows themselves as YOU implied. "Denver, Denver, Denver. Out of 10 locations ranks 9th after Nome Alaska." Does this not say that Denver ranks 9th after Nome Alaska. YES... That makes Nome 8th in your statement and why I said I didn't want to see your top 7 choices. You can't read what you wrote. Clown...
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I'm making the trip to Denver. I picked up a non-stop from Burbank for a little over $250 and the event hotel is very reasonably priced...$115/night, if my memory is correct.
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Denver is a mountain town. Skiing, football and basketball are its main sports focus. You are right though just could be that hidden community of BB fanatics that have been waiting for a show like this so they can get out of the house.
Well, being that I'm from here, and you're not... Let see, what could be wrong with your logic.... again... MAY... SKI SEASON COMING TO AN END, oh yea, lots of football games going on in MAY... ::) Basketball.... Games in Denver May... OVER OVER OVER!!!.... MELT... uhm, you really don't get Colorado. We're into rock climbing, Mountain Biking Road biking... Gyms are everywhere. We always score a couple cities in the top fittest in the nation. I could go on, boating, hiking, sportsman love Colorado PERIOD... Colorado is into everything fitness wise. We're fitness nuts!!! That really describes Colorado. Just about every other person you see is wearing sweats because they just left a gym or are heading for a workout. Yea... your right... It sounds like a fking crappy place to have a bb and fitness show. ::) I really think you're just a negative hateful person bitter and set to take your losses out on someone else.
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i would have selected new orleans over denver
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i would have selected new orleans over denver
My only comment... I like the ass in Tre's avatar ;D a lot!
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i would have selected new orleans over denver
Actually this will prove to have the same results. And Beserk, you being from Denver now explains it all. Thanks for supporting the negative comments about Denver unattentionally. Just make sure you buy the general admission ticket and just sit in the front row to save money.
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Actually this will prove to have the same results. And Beserk, you being from Denver now explains it all. Thanks for supporting the negative comments about Denver unattentionally. Just make sure you buy the general admission ticket and just sit in the front row to save money.
except for the built-in existing media coverage
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Just got off the phone with Rusty, and he's definitely NOT doing the Colorado Pro. His next contest will be the Olympia Wild Card--if it's held this year.
Rod ;D
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There will no wild card this year...
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My only comment... I like the ass in Tre's avatar ;D a lot!
LOL
That belongs to Ms. Machine...the original female bodybuilder schmoe (that is, she's a schmoe, but also female and a bodybuilder).
http://msmachine.blogspot.com/
http://msmusclemachine.com/
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There will no wild card this year...
oh, how the guilt will haunt you.
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Just got off the phone with Rusty, and he's definitely NOT doing the Colorado Pro. His next contest will be the Olympia Wild Card--if it's held this year.
Rod ;D
Thanks for the update. Case closed. Another 240 crusade "for the fans" all for nothing.
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Thanks for the update. Case closed. Another 240 crusade "for the fans" all for nothing.
Hey lift, keep up the good work buddy. If you used your connections and power "for the fans" instead of "For the company", you might make a difference, instead of just collecting a paycheck from the IFBB.
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Thanks for the update. Case closed. Another 240 crusade "for the fans" all for nothing.
Monster ruining a good idea just to get one over on 240. ::)
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Hey lift, keep up the good work buddy. If you used your connections and power "for the fans" instead of "For the company", you might make a difference, instead of just collecting a paycheck from the IFBB.
10-4 good rubber ducky, I don't get a paycheck from the IFBB but thanks for playing. The show must go on with or without the 240 parade...
coloradoproshow.com (http://coloradoproshow.com)
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10-4 good rubber ducky, I don't get a paycheck from the IFBB but thanks for playing. The show must go on with or without the 240 parade...
Remember, LIFT. I'm available when you're ready to get on the map ;)
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I never got this whole concept. If the guy wanted to be in the show, enter, go there and compete. What's the problem?
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Now that is strange. Rusty yesterday said he wanted to do the Colorado Pro. A ticket from Arizona to Colorado was one we could of staged for him. Sorry to hear that. But Rusty has a family to take care of too, and if competing right now it too expensive without a sponsor, we should understand that.
As for Lift and 240, you guys want to rumble, use the Z Board :). Focus guys!
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Remember, LIFT. I'm available when you're ready to get on the map ;)
When I want advice from clowns I'll buy a happy meal, but thanks.
BTW - you're in the newest IRONMAN, congrats!
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I heard! That is awesome :)
And to think I've only been doing this full time for 4 months now. Imagine what a year will bring.
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I heard! That is awesome :)
And to think I've only been doing this full time for 4 months now. Imagine what a year will bring.
Thanks to Lonnie T. for helping to make 240 famous with this Arnold pic of 240 and Ron in your column...
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I knew I liked that Teper guy!
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QUOTE:
"Now that is strange. Rusty yesterday said he wanted to do the Colorado Pro. A ticket from Arizona to Colorado was one we could of staged for him. Sorry to hear that. But Rusty has a family to take care of too, and if competing right now it too expensive without a sponsor, we should understand that."
Rusty WAS going to do the Colorado Pro, but he's since changed his mind. A big part of that has to do with finances. He isn't sponsored and has to pay all of this out of his own pocket. The hotel room alone in Manhattan set them back $800.00. Might be mad money to some, but Rusty's a hard-working dude who has to bust his balls to make $$$.
His competitive plans for 2006 were being focused on the Olympia Wild Card--but according to Chick there isn't going to be a Wild Card this year, so that's out of the equation. Rusty lurks here, by the way.
Rod
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QUOTE:
"Now that is strange. Rusty yesterday said he wanted to do the Colorado Pro. A ticket from Arizona to Colorado was one we could of staged for him. Sorry to hear that. But Rusty has a family to take care of too, and if competing right now it too expensive without a sponsor, we should understand that."
Rusty WAS going to do the Colorado Pro, but he's since changed his mind. A big part of that has to do with finances. He isn't sponsored and has to pay all of this out of his own pocket. The hotel room alone in Manhattan set them back $800.00. Might be mad money to some, but Rusty's a hard-working dude who has to bust his balls to make $$$.
His competitive plans for 2006 were being focused on the Olympia Wild Card--but according to Chick there isn't going to be a Wild Card this year, so that's out of the equation. Rusty lurks here, by the way.
Rod
This is why I said earlier that the money should have been fronted for Rusty and recouped later via paypal. >:(
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Rusty WAS going to do the Colorado Pro, but he's since changed his mind. A big part of that has to do with finances.
Totally understood and this the EXACT reason many other competitors gave for dropping out of the show, when they initially said they would be in Colorado.
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Totally understood and this the EXACT reason many other competitors gave for dropping out of the show, when they initially said they would be in Colorado.
not many can afford motel 6 after footing that transportation bill
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not many can afford motel 6 after footing that transportation bill
You ever noticed how Motel 6 sex is lame compared to Holiday Inn sex?
Just thought I'd share.
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So much money is going into prizes for this show when they could be better spent on helping some of these guys compete. Remember, this is a bodybuilding show not a raffle. Seems like these guys are always an after thought.
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I don't get it. No other Pro is doing the show why would Rusty. SO far more guys have dropped out of this show that have stayed in it. I was wondering do IFBB pros get unemployement.
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hold the show early so the guys can catch the last plane out and not have to stay in that cow town overnight
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hold the show early so the guys can catch the last plane out and not have to stay in that cow town overnight
Moo?
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I'm sure Shanw will have a nice suite. Whats wrong with putting Rusty up in his room.
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I'm sure Shanw will have a nice suite. Whats wrong with putting Rusty up in his room.
Nothing wrong with sleeping in the same bed as another man. We've all done it.
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I just posted to the other thread all about what I'm about and all the other crap..I've thought about a lot of this, but my decision not to compete wasn't just airfare and hotel..I'm not homeless for gods sake!!! I needed to be realistic about how much money it takes to prepare for a show...not the travel. I figured with money won from the Masters I would do the Colorado...but after coming home with only an "I love NY" t-shirt, I have have financial obligations. There is no way to do the show without getting into debt and with the way judging is going...I don't owe my financial future to people who don't appreciate symmetry and balance. I guess right now I'm just going "what the f()*^&^????
I appreciate all of everyones kind words and encouragement,,it means a LOT. But right now, I'm just going to regroup and figure out what show will be next... I'm down but NOT OUT!!!!
By the way, Bob is a nice guy! He's been cool with me. Nuff said on that.
Rusty
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I just posted to the other thread all about what I'm about and all the other crap..I've thought about a lot of this, but my decision not to compete wasn't just airfare and hotel..I'm not homeless for gods sake!!! I needed to be realistic about how much money it takes to prepare for a show...not the travel. I figured with money won from the Masters I would do the Colorado...but after coming home with only an "I love NY" t-shirt, I have have financial obligations. There is no way to do the show without getting into debt and with the way judging is going...I don't owe my financial future to people who don't appreciate symmetry and balance. I guess right now I'm just going "what the f()*^&^????
I appreciate all of everyones kind words and encouragement,,it means a LOT. But right now, I'm just going to regroup and figure out what show will be next... I'm down but NOT OUT!!!!
By the way, Bob is a nice guy! He's been cool with me. Nuff said on that.
Rusty
Thanks Rusty! See you in the PDI! ;)
Rob