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Title: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 05, 2020, 09:37:22 AM
My first. Suntory Yamazaki Distiller's Reserve. Vicious stuff straight out of the bottle but mellowed in the glass to a drinkable and boring vanillaned concoction with a Mickey Mouse nose and an ok cinnamon tail. Nothing objectionable but WNHI for the $.

I liked Lagavulin 16 a lot so will explore heavily peated Islay styles before handing over anymore hardearned to our inscrutable Pacific allies.

Scotch whisky dudes, post your poisons.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: IroNat on December 05, 2020, 10:03:16 AM
Dewars - The Ancestor 12 year old blended is a good value for sipping.

Grants Family Reserve for mixed drinks.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: King Shizzo on December 05, 2020, 10:21:56 AM
Idiots.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 05, 2020, 10:30:52 AM
Hey now.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: King Shizzo on December 05, 2020, 10:36:12 AM
Hey now.
Let me guess, alcohol. It's you fools who pay a premium for the same affect.

Who's the fool?
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Kwon on December 05, 2020, 10:53:59 AM
If you're a Fighter , Proper 12


If you're a Lover, Pooper 12
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: robcguns on December 05, 2020, 11:05:38 AM
If you're a Fighter , Proper 12


If you're a Lover, Pooper 12

Hahaha
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 05, 2020, 11:09:52 AM
Idiots.

So you are an alcoholic and can't handle it. I get it. But a lot pf people can handle it and savor the taste of certain whiskeys. The most intolerant people are the ones with the least self control.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 05, 2020, 11:28:15 AM
Not a big whisky drinker, but Hibiki Harmony and Okayama single malt is ok.   If I have it here (and rarely) it is Chivas and water.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Grape Ape on December 05, 2020, 11:51:50 AM
My first. Suntory Yamazaki Distiller's Reserve. Vicious stuff straight out of the bottle but mellowed in the glass to a drinkable and boring vanillaned concoction with a Mickey Mouse nose and an ok cinnamon tail. Nothing objectionable but WNHI for the $.

I liked Lagavulin 16 a lot so will explore heavily peated Islay styles before handing over anymore hardearned to our inscrutable Pacific allies.

Scotch whisky dudes, post your poisons.

Had a flight of Japanese Whiskeys recently.  They are mores scotch-y and I prefer bourbon.

After looking everywhere, four bottles of George Dickel Bottled in Bond appeard last week locally, so I bought two.  It was the Whiskey of the year for 2019.

Thought it was good, but not the be all end all.

Also, ignore shitzo, looks like he's back to just ruining threads.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: IroNat on December 05, 2020, 11:52:12 AM
Let me guess, alcohol. It's you fools who pay a premium for the same affect.

Who's the fool?

My two choices are not expensive.

Dewars 12 Year Ancestor is $25 for 750ml

Grants is $25 for 1.5L.

Where I live the taxes on spirits are high.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: visualizeperfection on December 05, 2020, 01:51:57 PM
Let me guess, alcohol. It's you fools who pay a premium for the same affect.

Who's the fool?

You’re really not even a decent troll these days. The cheap rubbing alcohol vodka has melted your already underperforming brain.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 05, 2020, 10:42:57 PM
Granted, not all Scotch scotch is of the smokey, flavorsome Islay style I seem to prefer so maybe I'm being too hard on the Yamazaki. It was a straightforward, minimalist drink, uncrowded by a whole bunch of over-, under-, and sliding in sideways flavors, if that's your kind of thing.

Then I had a Macallan 12yo after that. Big contrast. For me, it had everything the Japanese one lacked - body, depth, lasting warmth and peatyness - and it was $40 cheaper.

I'll check out a bottle of Dewars 12 as well but will leave the bourbons for another time. The few I've tried- Jacks, Jims- are too sugary for my taste. I could see exploring them later on tho so will keep the Dickel in mind.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 06, 2020, 08:08:45 AM
So you are an alcoholic and can't handle it. I get it. But a lot pf people can handle it and savor the taste of certain whiskeys. The most intolerant people are the ones with the least self control.



Nothing worse than a dry drunk. Preachy.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: basil on December 06, 2020, 08:12:06 AM
Macallan is my favorite, but there are many distillers i like, and i’m not necessarily region biased.  A few years ago when Macallan were moving toward the blends, i picked up 3 bottles of 18yr.  Nicest whisky i’ve ever tasted. 
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: chaos on December 06, 2020, 08:24:49 AM
My first. Suntory Yamazaki Distiller's Reserve. Vicious stuff straight out of the bottle but mellowed in the glass to a drinkable and boring vanillaned concoction with a Mickey Mouse nose and an ok cinnamon tail. Nothing objectionable but WNHI for the $.

I liked Lagavulin 16 a lot so will explore heavily peated Islay styles before handing over anymore hardearned to our inscrutable Pacific allies.

Scotch whisky dudes, post your poisons.
I've tried the Suntoy before, it was OK from what I remember, not really a standout. I have a bottle of Auchentoshen that I haven't opened yet. Never tried it, should be interesting.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 06, 2020, 08:27:03 AM
Give Laproiagh 10 to your enemies, haha.

I would say Ardbeg might be worth a try for that Islay flavor.

Macallan 12 and Glenlivet 18 are solid and I usually have them around.

Redbreast is my go to Irish Whiskey - the single pot Irish stuff is quality.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: f450 on December 06, 2020, 09:28:50 AM
Give Laproiagh 10 to your enemies, haha.

I would say Ardbeg might be worth a try for that Islay flavor.

Macallan 12 and Glenlivet 18 are solid and I usually have them around.

Redbreast is my go to Irish Whiskey - the single pot Irish stuff is quality.

The redbreast cask strength is lovely
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: King Shizzo on December 06, 2020, 09:36:05 AM
I'll never get it. Alcohol is alcohol. Beer tastes like shit. Most hard liquor tastes like shit. I'm not talking about mixed drinks, people.

Let's just say it for what it is....It doesn't taste nearly as good as it feels.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Bevo on December 06, 2020, 09:43:04 AM
Xfactor should chime in with his knowledge and vintage collection of scotch and whiskey
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: IroNat on December 06, 2020, 10:21:29 AM
I prefer my whiskys with a bouquet of kerosene, a delicate hint of acetone, and an explosive finish.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Taffin on December 06, 2020, 11:09:23 AM
Give Laproiagh 10 to your enemies, haha.

I would say Ardbeg might be worth a try for that Islay flavor.

Macallan 12 and Glenlivet 18 are solid and I usually have them around.

Redbreast is my go to Irish Whiskey - the single pot Irish stuff is quality.


Growing up, I never understood the appeal of whisky - but that was all blended.  And my preferred poison would be Jamaican White Rum.

But the first time someone offered me a single malt, I suddenly got it - it had a depth that those blends lost

Me and my old man never got on (massive understatement).  But one year, for some reason I'll never understand (he's long dead) he bought me a bottle of Glenlivet

I think it's the only bottle of booze I ever really took time to savour - genuinely enjoyable
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: epic is back on December 06, 2020, 03:08:39 PM
I'll never get it. Alcohol is alcohol. Beer tastes like shit. Most hard liquor tastes like shit. I'm not talking about mixed drinks, people.

Let's just say it for what it is....It doesn't taste nearly as good as it feels.

You don’t get it

Because you haven’t had expensive things

We get it though
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: chaos on December 06, 2020, 03:45:40 PM
You don’t get it

Because you haven’t had expensive things

We get it though
Pabst is a treat for him. :D
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 06, 2020, 07:03:41 PM
Oban 14  for scotch
Woodford Reserve for bourbon
Ron Zacapa 23 for rum
D.J. 1942 or Jose Cuervo Famila Reserva for tequila
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: ThisisOverload on December 07, 2020, 02:22:07 PM
Macallan 12 and Glenlivet 18 are solid and I usually have them around.

This is what i have right now. Glenlivet is always good, the 18 is amazing.

Macallan is something i drink more often. I save the Glen for guests.

I'm going through another wine phase right now, i haven't had a good glass of scotch in months.

My dad drinks Chivas, i don't care for it much anymore, but used to drink it when i was younger.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: King Shizzo on December 07, 2020, 02:25:07 PM
This is what i have right now. Glenlivet is always good, the 18 is amazing.

Macallan is something i drink more often. I save the Glen for guests.

I'm going through another wine phase right now, i haven't had a good glass of scotch in months.

My dad drinks Chivas, i don't care for it much anymore, but used to drink it when i was younger.
It's more the memories than the booze.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: ThisisOverload on December 07, 2020, 02:28:46 PM
It's more the memories than the booze.

I agree to a point. There is something sentimental about sipping a nice glass of Glen 18 on the back patio. When you savor something it tends to relax you and let you enjoy it better.

I will typically drink two glasses and then switch to something different, if i'm looking to catch a buzz. ;D

Most of the time when i drink, i'm going a few drinks deep.

If i just want to get drunk, i'll just get a case of Coors Light and start drinking. ;)
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: King Shizzo on December 07, 2020, 02:34:36 PM
I agree to a point. There is something sentimental about sipping a nice glass of Glen 18 on the back patio. When you savor something it tends to relax you and let you enjoy it better.

I will typically drink two glasses and then switch to something different, if i'm looking to catch a buzz. ;D

Most of the time when i drink, i'm going a few drinks deep.

If i just want to get drunk, i'll just get a case of Coors Light and start drinking. ;)
No, it's just another way of fake broadcasting your wealth. People having wine cellars....Who wears the pants?
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: ThisisOverload on December 07, 2020, 02:45:16 PM
No, it's just another way of fake broadcasting your wealth. People having wine cellars....Who wears the pants?

To some people yes, it's a status symbol like driving a BMW.

But not to everyone. I don't know anyone with an actual wine cellar.

But yes, some people try to prove a point with their expensive scotch and cigar.

Some people do enjoy the taste of certain wines or scotch. No different than ordering a medium rare sirloin instead of ground beef chuck.

The thing that changed my perspective on wine many years ago, was learning what to pair certain wines with. It completely changes the flavor.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2020, 03:01:24 PM

Growing up, I never understood the appeal of whisky - but that was all blended.  And my preferred poison would be Jamaican White Rum.

But the first time someone offered me a single malt, I suddenly got it - it had a depth that those blends lost

Me and my old man never got on (massive understatement).  But one year, for some reason I'll never understand (he's long dead) he bought me a bottle of Glenlivet

I think it's the only bottle of booze I ever really took time to savour - genuinely enjoyable

The Glenlivet scotch is absolute heaven. Too bad I am too cheap to buy it for myself. Once a co-worker gave me a fifth of The Glenlivet for Christmas. I was gobsmacked. A fifth of The Glenlivet ranges from around $37 to over $400 for the 25 year old single malt whiskey.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 07, 2020, 03:15:40 PM
Let me guess, alcohol. It's you fools who pay a premium for the same affect.

Who's the fool?

Hard to take criticism from a fat broke land walrus who drinks anti-freeze mixed with his own urine.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 07, 2020, 03:49:18 PM
Macallan 12 or 15 havent had the urge to spend more. Johnny Walker blue was super.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: King Shizzo on December 07, 2020, 05:15:49 PM
Hard to take criticism from a fat broke land walrus who drinks anti-freeze mixed with his own urine.
That hurts....

Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: chaos on December 07, 2020, 06:18:48 PM
Oban 14  for scotch
Woodford Reserve for bourbon
Ron Zacapa 23 for rum
D.J. 1942 or Jose Cuervo Famila Reserva for tequila
CaptainDrunk7daysaweek^^^
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 07, 2020, 06:29:41 PM
That hurts....

The only difference between you and Howard is the quart of cheap vodka you had for breakfast.

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Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: CalvinH on December 09, 2020, 07:57:31 AM
I love bourbon :)
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2020, 08:25:29 PM
I love bourbon :)

It's my preference these days
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: AbrahamG on December 09, 2020, 08:32:26 PM
A delicious 10mg edible every Saturday has been my little slice of heaven most of the year.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2020, 08:37:35 PM
A delicious 10mg edible every Saturday has been my little slice of heaven most of the year.

hows the buzz on that?
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: AbrahamG on December 09, 2020, 08:44:28 PM
hows the buzz on that?

It's perfect.  The ones I have now activate in 45 minutes.  It seems to maintain for close to 8 hours.  I sleep great and no hangover.  Only negatives I notice are that I get really parched (dry mouth) and eat too much.  Saturday has become my cheat day, so it's not really a concern. 
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 09, 2020, 08:54:15 PM
It's perfect.  The ones I have now activate in 45 minutes.  It seems to maintain for close to 8 hours.  I sleep great and no hangover.  Only negatives I notice are that I get really parched (dry mouth) and eat too much.  Saturday has become my cheat day, so it's not really a concern.

I guess the once a week thing is important just due to the eat too much possibility. 
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: gib on December 10, 2020, 12:58:59 AM
I'm a big fan of Hibiki. Its the most glorious whisky I have tasted. Always get a bottle or 2 when in Tokyo.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 10, 2020, 05:33:57 AM
I'm a big fan of Hibiki. Its the most glorious whisky I have tasted. Always get a bottle or 2 when in Tokyo.

The Harmony? Holy shit!  Best price I see is at Dan Murphys for 200. Others are quoting 230. Surely you don't mean the 17. At $1200 a bottle, I'm confident it's way beyond both my palate and my budget.

I will keep the Harmony in mind but won't lie to you and say I'll pick one up immediately. My sole Jap whisky, the Yamazaki, definitely disappointed at $140. Would if I could exchange it for a Macallan or Lagavulin and they could keep the change. Just feeling a bit burnt by the Japs. Can you liken the Hibiki Harmony to a [hopefully more affordable] Scotch scotch, just so I know if it's muh style?


Trumpers: Freak ye not. These are Kangaroo Kopeks, not Freedom Dollars.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Griffith on December 10, 2020, 06:52:36 AM
I prefer good brandy.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 10, 2020, 07:05:31 AM
Ardbeg 10

Whoa, nelly. You want Islay? We got Islay.

Campfire at the shore nose. Not off in the distance. Your same tshirt worn over 3 consecutive long nights tending the driftwood coals. There's too much going on here flavorwise for me to interpret but after a second of sweet scotchy introduction, which I'll have to pin down later, arrives a roaring wildfire of smoke, burnt orange, and pepper. This lasts and lasts, and lasts, finally mellowing to what I'll cluelessly call jalepeno vanilla. I salivated lots.

Disclaimer: Not a Scotch connoisseur, just a dude exploring what he likes. I drink neat, as the distiller presents it. No water, no ice. Guess I'd call the Ardbeg "deep and long." It asked me to interpret what it had to offer, and I'm going to need a lot more time. This is not a boring, one dimensional scotch. Duratuon went on and on. The smoke will climb up your nose for you. How'd that get in there?

If you're not a smokey peat guy, be advised this is the deep end of the pool. I am a smokey peat guy and still thought the first glass had a little burnt rubber happening. The second, a short pour, converted me to a fan. But don't start here if you're uninitiated with Islay stuff, imho. It's by far the strongest of that kind I've had and is liable to scare people off gentler island 'stills. I liked it but it's really fuckin forward. Puffers will need their meatiest Vuelta Abajo to keep up with this Full Metal Islay.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: gib on December 10, 2020, 11:34:11 PM
The Harmony? Holy shit!  Best price I see is at Dan Murphys for 200. Others are quoting 230. Surely you don't mean the 17. At $1200 a bottle, I'm confident it's way beyond both my palate and my budget.

I will keep the Harmony in mind but won't lie to you and say I'll pick one up immediately. My sole Jap whisky, the Yamazaki, definitely disappointed at $140. Would if I could exchange it for a Macallan or Lagavulin and they could keep the change. Just feeling a bit burnt by the Japs. Can you liken the Hibiki Harmony to a [hopefully more affordable] Scotch scotch, just so I know if it's muh style?


Trumpers: Freak ye not. These are Kangaroo Kopeks, not Freedom Dollars.

My favorite is actually the 12 years and the 17. I have had a bottle of the 21 also, but for me the 12 and 17 hit are close to perfection. Harmony also very good, but is a blend as all the good stuff has pretty much been sold.

Well worth every dollar for me. I can make a bottle last quite some time as I only have 4-5 shots at a time so pretty good value. My preferred method of drinking is to pour into a glass straight, chill in a freezer for 10 mins or so, but with no ice or water added. Wonderful as it opens up. My little Hibiki ritual. Very very drinkable, but I make it last.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: gib on December 10, 2020, 11:36:46 PM
The Harmony? Holy shit!  Best price I see is at Dan Murphys for 200. Others are quoting 230. Surely you don't mean the 17. At $1200 a bottle, I'm confident it's way beyond both my palate and my budget.

I will keep the Harmony in mind but won't lie to you and say I'll pick one up immediately. My sole Jap whisky, the Yamazaki, definitely disappointed at $140. Would if I could exchange it for a Macallan or Lagavulin and they could keep the change. Just feeling a bit burnt by the Japs. Can you liken the Hibiki Harmony to a [hopefully more affordable] Scotch scotch, just so I know if it's muh style?


Trumpers: Freak ye not. These are Kangaroo Kopeks, not Freedom Dollars.

PS - treat yourself to the Harmony. Well well worth it. Way better and smoother than the Yamazaki - wonderful warm deep rich charcoal caramel scotch flavor. Any time of year its good but especially evening on a cold winter.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: AbrahamG on December 11, 2020, 01:18:41 AM
I guess the once a week thing is important just due to the eat too much possibility.

LOL.  I can take one on non cheat days but believe in moderation both for junk food and slightly mind altering drugs. 
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Dreadlifter on December 11, 2020, 02:59:33 AM
Ardbeg 10

Whoa, nelly. You want Islay? We got Islay.

Campfire at the shore nose. Not off in the distance. Your same tshirt worn over 3 consecutive long nights tending the driftwood coals. There's too much going on here flavorwise for me to interpret but after a second of sweet scotchy introduction, which I'll have to pin down later, arrives a roaring wildfire of smoke, burnt orange, and pepper. This lasts and lasts, and lasts, finally mellowing to what I'll cluelessly call jalepeno vanilla. I salivated lots.

Disclaimer: Not a Scotch connoisseur, just a dude exploring what he likes. I drink neat, as the distiller presents it. No water, no ice. Guess I'd call the Ardbeg "deep and long." It asked me to interpret what it had to offer, and I'm going to need a lot more time. This is not a boring, one dimensional scotch. Duratuon went on and on. The smoke will climb up your nose for you. How'd that get in there?

If you're not a smokey peat guy, be advised this is the deep end of the pool. I am a smokey peat guy and still thought the first glass had a little burnt rubber happening. The second, a short pour, converted me to a fan. But don't start here if you're uninitiated with Islay stuff, imho. It's by far the strongest of that kind I've had and is liable to scare people off gentler island 'stills. I liked it but it's really fuckin forward. Puffers will need their meatiest Vuelta Abajo to keep up with this Full Metal Islay.

Nice to see some whisky talk on here. (You don't call it Scotch in Scotland). If you like the Ardbeg 10, try Ardbeg Uigeadail of you ever get the opportunity. It's a delight. Whereas Laphraoig is generally too medicinal, Ardbeg always hits the spot. Caol Isla and Bunnahabhain are other Islay whiskies you might enjoy.

As for Japanese whisky- it's well made and stays true to the traditions of Scottish whisky making, no surprise given the story of Japan's whisky industry. I've tried a few and a bottle of Suntory in my collection at the moment.

Looking forward to some nice whisky and a cigar or two over the Christmas season, I've got plenty nice ones to choose from. Eagerly awaiting opening a bottle of Glenfarclas 21 year old.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Bevo on December 11, 2020, 03:07:11 AM
Lots of xfactor protégés in this thread
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: ThisisOverload on December 11, 2020, 10:14:11 AM
Lots of xfactor protégés in this thread

We are all MUCH more wealthy and better looking.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 13, 2020, 08:09:43 AM
PS - treat yourself to the Harmony. Well well worth it. Way better and smoother than the Yamazaki - wonderful warm deep rich charcoal caramel scotch flavor. Any time of year its good but especially evening on a cold winter.

A $1200+ bottle like the 17 is simply never going to happen for a gyprocker like me so don't let me kick your tyres on things at that level. And like amazing wines, it would be wasted on a beginner like me.

The Harmony is really up there $wise for me but I can't write off all Jap whisky on the basis of one Yamazaki. Money circumstances permitting, it'll be my first port of call upon my return to the Nipponese. Like the man said, "Smoke me a kipper. I'll be back for breakfast."
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 13, 2020, 08:25:27 AM
Nice to see some whisky talk on here. (You don't call it Scotch in Scotland). If you like the Ardbeg 10, try Ardbeg Uigeadail of you ever get the opportunity. It's a delight. Whereas Laphraoig is generally too medicinal, Ardbeg always hits the spot. Caol Isla and Bunnahabhain are other Islay whiskies you might enjoy.

As for Japanese whisky- it's well made and stays true to the traditions of Scottish whisky making, no surprise given the story of Japan's whisky industry. I've tried a few and a bottle of Suntory in my collection at the moment.

Looking forward to some nice whisky and a cigar or two over the Christmas season, I've got plenty nice ones to choose from. Eagerly awaiting opening a bottle of Glenfarclas 21 year old.

Thanks m8, I'll be sure to check these out. The Bunnahabhain and Caol 12s look to be in my price range.

I'm definitely intrigued by the Ardbeg 10 and intend to see what else they're producing. Likely won't take me too long.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 13, 2020, 09:19:01 AM
Warning: My own interpretation often differs from experts online!

LAGAVULIN 16

This was, and remains, my benchmark for Islay. A minute in the glass gives me honey, oak, white peach, and touch of raspberry smells. The honey and oak comes through in flavor immediately, along with a strong sherry, quickly followed by the smoke. Hot on the heels of that is a medicinal undertone (which I guess is what reviewers mean when they say iodine, but I have never sipped iodine for fun or therapeutic effect, so idk). This melds with the smokiness and the Spanish sweetness, and all 3 of them resolve into a sweet oaky smokey (no muskogee) pretty quickly.

It's a fast ride compared to my last tasting of the Ardberg 10 which really stayed on the tongue and presented bolder flavors which I remember as more discretely defined or partitioned from one another, but its rapidity is exhilarating and challenges me to keep up, like that chick who was part jackrabbit. But unlike her its balance is amazing. Just when one thing grabs my attention, another says Psst, over here. And then another one is all "Hello, Sailor!" Mmm, and they vy for my attention.

So TLDR I say "Hello, Angels." And they smile and say, in perfect unison, "Hiiiii, Charlie!" I like that.

Thjs remains my recommendation for someone who wants to spring for a bottle of the good stuff. Downside: You won't be able to enjoy your usual stuff as much after comparing. Red pill caveats apply.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on December 13, 2020, 10:58:45 AM
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Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Taffin on December 13, 2020, 12:06:46 PM
To some people yes, it's a status symbol like driving a BMW.

But not to everyone. I don't know anyone with an actual wine cellar.

But yes, some people try to prove a point with their expensive scotch and cigar.



Wot u mean?
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: CalvinH on December 16, 2020, 07:23:47 AM
Every bottle I purchase or own is for my friends,family, and own personal consumption.
Re-selling is what is killing the bourbon prices for the regular consumer.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 16, 2020, 08:11:15 AM
Every bottle I purchase or own is for my friends,family, and own personal consumption.
Re-selling is what is killing the bourbon prices for the regular consumer.

 Sup bro. Do you mean some giant conglomerate buys up entire batches just so they can mark up and resell? Wouldn't it just drive people off to other brands?

Give us some bourbon recommendations. I'd welcome some peated ones to offset the bourbon sugariness. A quick google turned up Westland, Andalusia (wood smoked, not peat), New Riff, and Brooklyn Kings County.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Grape Ape on December 16, 2020, 08:32:48 AM
Sup bro. Do you mean some giant conglomerate buys up entire batches just so they can mark up and resell? Wouldn't it just drive people off to other brands?

Give us some bourbon recommendations. I'd welcome some peated ones to offset the bourbon sugariness. A quick google turned up Westland, Andalusia (wood smoked, not peat), New Riff, and Brooklyn Kings County.

No, it's people hoarding to sell on secondary market.

I used to buy Eagle Rare 17 for $36.  It was near perfect.  Now, it comes out once a year, gets bought up instantly, and hits the secondary market for $800+

Same with all types of Pappy - goes for 2k and up.

Peated bourbon?  Not really something I look for.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 16, 2020, 08:44:29 AM
Markup of madness. Sorry ebay retards hijacked your drink, man.

I'm all about the smoke these days. Doubt I'll find it but Andalusia Stryker sounds pretty wild. Might make a mean rib marinade too.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Grape Ape on December 16, 2020, 10:20:42 AM
Markup of madness. Sorry ebay retards hijacked your drink, man.

I'm all about the smoke these days. Doubt I'll find it but Andalusia Stryker sounds pretty wild. Might make a mean rib marinade too.

Just looked that up - closest bottle appears to be in Texas, lol.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: AbrahamG on December 16, 2020, 12:18:18 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZLK6L4Y/prime-anus-after-tres-taco-combo-meat.jpg)

Might be my favorite GB photo. Lol. The black dildo is essential.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: CalvinH on December 16, 2020, 09:28:43 PM
Sup bro. Do you mean some giant conglomerate buys up entire batches just so they can mark up and resell? Wouldn't it just drive people off to other brands?

Give us some bourbon recommendations. I'd welcome some peated ones to offset the bourbon sugariness. A quick google turned up Westland, Andalusia (wood smoked, not peat), New Riff, and Brooklyn Kings County.


I've never tried peated, I've had rum and wine finish which if you find the right ones are good.
John J Bowman port barrel finish and their single barrel are both really good bourbons and not that hard for me to get.

...they are actually made by Buffalo Trace then shipped to Virginia then stored in their own rickhouses.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: King Shizzo on December 16, 2020, 09:44:44 PM

I've never tried peated, I've had rum and wine finish which if you find the right ones are good.
John J Bowman port barrel finish and their single barrel are both really good bourbons and not that hard for me to get.

...they are actually made by Buffalo Trace then shipped to Virginia then stored in their own rickhouses.
Bet You can't hit a softball farther than me. Golf ball? For sure. I can't drive it off of the tee. Remember, chicks dig the long ball.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on December 17, 2020, 03:06:03 AM
Might be my favorite GB photo. Lol. The black dildo is essential.

Much appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: IroNat on December 17, 2020, 04:30:32 AM

Give us some bourbon recommendations.

Getbiggers can afford the most rare and expensive spirits but don't necessarily buy them.

They seek value for their dollars.

For example, the Budweiser of Bourbons...

(https://www.haskells.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/816x1200/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/1/9/195033_0_1_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: CalvinH on December 17, 2020, 12:23:23 PM
Getbiggers can afford the most rare and expensive spirits but don't necessarily buy them.

They seek value for their dollars.

For example, the Budweiser of Bourbons...

(https://www.haskells.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/816x1200/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/1/9/195033_0_1_1.jpg)


Elijah Graig or 1792 for me are solid bourbons at good price point and readily avalabile.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Grape Ape on December 17, 2020, 03:29:57 PM

Elijah Graig or 1792 for me are solid bourbons at good price point and readily avalabile.

I'd say Buffalo Trace is best under $30.

There's a ton of good ones in the 30-50 range.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: thelamefalsehood on December 21, 2020, 05:38:36 PM
The good stuff😉
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 21, 2020, 07:32:58 PM
I did a tasting at the house last month.  Preference is certainly personal but this was the result of the unofficial taste comparison. Woodford was just a bit better than 4 Roses. Elijah and 1792 were ok but underwhelming. Basil Hayden's I just didn't care for.


#1 Woodford Reserve
#2 4 Roses Single Barrell
#3 Elijah Craig Small Batch
#4 1792
#5 Basil Haydens
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: thelamefalsehood on December 21, 2020, 07:54:55 PM
I did a tasting at the house last month.  Preference is certainly personal but this was the result of the unofficial taste comparison. Woodford was just a bit better than 4 Roses. Elijah and 1792 were ok but underwhelming. Basil Hayden's I just didn't care for.


#1 Woodford Reserve
#2 4 Roses Single Barrell
#3 Elijah Craig Small Batch
#4 1792
#5 Basil Haydens

I work part time at a liquor store. We sell lots of Woodford and Basil Hayden. The other 3 as well but not as much as those two.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 21, 2020, 08:02:07 PM
Getbiggers can afford the most rare and expensive spirits but don't necessarily buy them.

They seek value for their dollars.

For example, the Budweiser of Bourbons...

(https://www.haskells.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/816x1200/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/1/9/195033_0_1_1.jpg)



My favorite bargain bottle is the BIB OGD. Hi test and good flavor on the cheap. Bottled in Bond is a throwback step up and is offered on many mid grade brands.


(https://i.redd.it/howlsg4thhs01.jpg)
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: IroNat on December 22, 2020, 04:40:02 AM


My favorite bargain bottle is the BIB OGD. Hi test and good flavor on the cheap. Bottled in Bond is a throwback step up and is offered on many mid grade brands.


(https://i.redd.it/howlsg4thhs01.jpg)

The liquors stores in my area don't carry that but if they did I'd get some.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: bLuEeYes on December 22, 2020, 06:01:00 AM
Japanese whisky is so expensive here and didn't try it yet. Not that I don't have the money but I don't see why I'll buy an expensive japanese bottle before going through most scotch single malts and bourbons and so on.

Here's some whisky I like and are worth their prices. I'll add Glenfiddich 12 and 15 to these. Good thing here is we can get real cubans without any problems
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Grape Ape on December 22, 2020, 06:45:22 AM
kick your tyres

Transition into 100% foreigner completed.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: CalvinH on December 22, 2020, 07:35:01 PM
The good stuff😉


Where is that pic from?
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Grape Ape on December 22, 2020, 08:18:03 PM

Where is that pic from?

No kidding, looks like thelamefalsehood has access to a retail priced Pappy?

Like we've always said on the Y, he's the greatest poster on the board.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 22, 2020, 08:52:28 PM
I work part time at a liquor store. We sell lots of Woodford and Basil Hayden. The other 3 as well but not as much as those two.

Those are some I pulled from a compilation of best bourbon lists. Of course the really hard to get ones like Blankston and Pappy weren't available. I'd like to try them one day but I'm not paying someone inflated re-sell for the opportunity.   
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on December 22, 2020, 11:10:39 PM
Transition into 100% foreigner completed.

Rubbish.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: thelamefalsehood on December 23, 2020, 05:23:58 AM

Where is that pic from?

I work part time at a liquor store, delivering liquor to bars and restaurants in the local area, Charleston, SC. We have a special closet for the really valuable stuff, all allocated to the high end restaurants in the area. We had to hand carry those Pappy bottles to the customer, extreme low volume sent out to us. You will never see anything from that closet out on the floor for the regular walk in customer, maybe Buffalo Trace or Blantons if we have a lot. But the others? No way
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Grape Ape on December 23, 2020, 07:37:57 AM
I work part time at a liquor store, delivering liquor to bars and restaurants in the local area, Charleston, SC. We have a special closet for the really valuable stuff, all allocated to the high end restaurants in the area. We had to hand carry those Pappy bottles to the customer, extreme low volume sent out to us. You will never see anything from that closet out on the floor for the regular walk in customer, maybe Buffalo Trace or Blantons if we have a lot. But the others? No way

Buffalo Trace and Blanton's are still very common.  BT comes from the same place as Pappy.

What are those bottles going for?
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Kwon on December 23, 2020, 08:55:48 AM
The good stuff😉

Some bottles gathering dust there Thela!
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 23, 2020, 09:22:56 AM
If you're looking for a good, middle of the road Scotch, consider Oban 18.

"1"
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Grape Ape on December 23, 2020, 10:25:36 AM
If you're looking for a good, middle of the road Scotch, consider Oban 18.

"1"

Mods,

Please stop this poster from spamming every thread with this.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: CalvinH on December 23, 2020, 01:02:32 PM
Buffalo Trace and Blanton's are still very common.  BT comes from the same place as Pappy.

What are those bottles going for?

The Weller full proof, single barrel, and the William Larue Weller are all on my white whale list of the bottles I'd buy.
I have so many I'm picky now to what I' d purchase.


....just torture to see that pic :'(
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 23, 2020, 07:54:42 PM
I work part time at a liquor store, delivering liquor to bars and restaurants in the local area, Charleston, SC. We have a special closet for the really valuable stuff, all allocated to the high end restaurants in the area. We had to hand carry those Pappy bottles to the customer, extreme low volume sent out to us. You will never see anything from that closet out on the floor for the regular walk in customer, maybe Buffalo Trace or Blantons if we have a lot. But the others? No way

Buffalo Trace is a $30 bottle. Blantons is distilled  by Buffalo Trace.  did you mean something other than Buffalo Trace?
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: thelamefalsehood on December 24, 2020, 07:30:01 AM
Buffalo Trace is a $30 bottle. Blantons is distilled  by Buffalo Trace.  did you mean something other than Buffalo Trace?

No, those two are both allocated for restaurants and bars where I work. We have other stuff on the shelves more pricey so I’m not really sure why we keep those two in the back? I know the volume we have on hand is never that high (never more than 10 cases or so) and we service hundreds of businesses, so only so much to go around I would think.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 24, 2020, 07:56:08 AM
Mods,

Please stop this poster from spamming every thread with this.

It's literally the only Scotch I drink, lol.

"1"
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Grape Ape on December 24, 2020, 08:25:42 AM
It's literally the only Scotch I drink, lol.

"1"

I think Oban 18 was the first "good" scotch I tried.

I'm mostly Bourbon, but switch to scotch for a week like once every two years.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 24, 2020, 10:01:44 AM
I think Oban 18 was the first "good" scotch I tried.

I'm mostly Bourbon, but switch to scotch for a week like once every two years.

Do you do any flavored bourbon?

"1"
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Grape Ape on December 24, 2020, 10:47:49 AM
Do you do any flavored bourbon?

"1"

Only for the occasional gimmick shot/drink on NYE or something.

The Skrewball peanut butter whiskey is surprisingly great.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 24, 2020, 02:10:57 PM
No, those two are both allocated for restaurants and bars where I work. We have other stuff on the shelves more pricey so I’m not really sure why we keep those two in the back? I know the volume we have on hand is never that high (never more than 10 cases or so) and we service hundreds of businesses, so only so much to go around I would think.

My guess on why is for example, the Blankston retails for $66, However it only comes out once a year and in limited quantities so opportunists quickly buy up the stock for resale to make money off of it. I think that is why most liquor stores reserve it for either like you said high end restaurants or in my case the place i usually frequent has a members program where if you spend enough per year, you get a special invitation to purchase a bottle at regular retail price.  So while initially it's not expensive the limited amount makes it highly sought after.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: CalvinH on December 24, 2020, 05:06:18 PM
Do you do any flavored bourbon?

"1"

No, but I have tried a few bourbons that have been put in wine,port, and even curacao barrels after they've been poured out of their original barrels.


...Isaac Bowman Port barrel finish is the best I've tried. I'ts available in your area.I have to go to NY to get it.
cool story behind it,It's actually made at Buffalo trace in Kentucky,sourced to A Smith Bowman in Virginia, then re-barreled again for the third time in the Port barrels.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: bLuEeYes on December 25, 2020, 03:14:40 PM
Guys, do I buy a glenfiddich 15yo or a bowmore 12 and a naked grouse?

I already tasted the glen 15 and consider to be a smooth and delicate one but ... ? Whisky enthusiast please enlighten me on my purchase
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: Tapeworm on August 02, 2022, 07:31:38 AM
Gentlemen. A bump for Ardbeg An Oa.

It might eclipse my beloved Lag 16. It bests the already awesome Ardbeg 10 imo.

Sherry. Cherry. Bit of salt. Lingering pepper. Granddaddy's wood plane. Christmas morning fireplace. Toffee leather finish.

Pair with good cheddar and walnuts. Trust me.

Goddamn. If you're a scotch guy. I don't know how they do this.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: IroNat on August 02, 2022, 03:45:01 PM
Glenfarclas 10 year is pretty darn good.
Title: Re: Japanese Whisky
Post by: AbrahamG on August 02, 2022, 08:51:27 PM
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Bump