ADVIL COULD HURT MORE THAN ROID'S ::)
To some extent that's probably accurate, if you take a lot of painkillers, daily for a consistent period of time, you are wreaking havoc on your stomach, stomach linigs and kidneys, at least according to most doctor's I've spoken with.
To some extent that's probably accurate, if you take a lot of painkillers, daily for a consistent period of time, you are wreaking havoc on your stomach, stomach linigs and kidneys, at least according to most doctor's I've spoken with.
I used to take Excedrin DAILY for about 12 years ::) It's a wonder I didn't burn a hole in my stomach. I wonder if all the damage I probably did has repaired itself?
I'm glad we're all smart enough to know that roids aren't the culprit of all these bodybuilder deaths and liver and kidney problems. So up the dose and hope for the most! Hi Tom Prince
I think the real issue underlying all this comes down to the fundamentals of the bodybuilding 'lifestyle'. When I decided to take up bb it wasn't because here was a lifestyle that promoted health and wellness and stuff like that. It was because I could develop a 'look' that was to all intents and purposes 'excessive'. I mean isn't this really at the heart of bb especially now - and hasn't it really gone too far.This is so true, but this is one of those arguments that isn't going to be won. You know, kind of like arguments dealing with race, politics, and religion. People will never accept the opinions of those that disagree. Neither can they agree to disagree. The people who are wrong won't admit they could possibly be wrong in their assumptions.
We basically want to be built like superman regardless of the cost.
And being male (in most cases) we are, especially when we are younger, apparently willing to risk pretty much everything to achieve that end.
I think it is actually rather heartening to hear some of you younger guys here actively promoting and defending your choice of being natural bb'ers. The whole excessive nature of this 'sport' I think is going to change - you can only take things to extremes for a certain period and then the cracks will appear as they already have. Too many guys are permanently screwing themselves for what - to look good on the outside (even that is debatable) while practically dissolving on the inside.
Advil can cause kidney failure, folks!
of the causes of renal failure I saw and read about in 6 years of med school guess what. References to NSAIDS(group of drugs to which advil belongs): lots
references to diuretics:some
references to anabolic steroids:zero
Am I saying abusing steroids is safe/advisable? of course not. But if TP took as much advil as he says for as long as he did it's not a medical miracle that his kidney's said enough tom, we've had enough.
regards, the Doc :)
True, but there are only a handful of men (a few hundred or thousand?) who abuse both diuretics and pro level steroids and advil.
There are millinons of Americans who shoot their liver to shit every day with ibuprofin.
PLUS, most men won't tell their doc they're buying gym steroids, so advil will soak up a disproportionate amount of blame.
The Doc, you're a good discussion!
I'm glad we're all smart enough to know that roids aren't the culprit of all these bodybuilder deaths and liver and kidney problems. So up the dose and hope for the most! Hi Tom Prince
I saw and read about in 6 years of med school regards, the Doc :)
I hope you did your medschool in Europe, otherwise how did you fail two years????
Good thing I stick to the basics...oxycontin, Loritabs, vicoden, morphine and percs followed by a fifth of Vodka/Crans (cranberry keeps the liver clean) ;D ::) ;D
The ibuprofen will kill you, or send you to the hospital to get your stomach pumped, but the injecting a bottle of 10ml test will just make you come down with flu like symptoms and feeling like crap.
exactly. which is the killer, again? ::)