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Rudy Giuliani's law license in New York state was suspended on Thursday, as a state appeals court found he had lied in arguing that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from his client, former U.S. President Donald Trump.
Giuliani, 77, a former U.S. Attorney in Manhattan and New York City mayor, was sanctioned for making unsubstantiated claims in court, testimony before lawmakers, press conferences and other media appearances about electoral fraud.
"These false statements were made to improperly bolster (Giuliani's) narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential election was stolen from his client," the court said. "We conclude that respondent's conduct immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law."
The court also rejected Giuliani's argument that the investigation into his conduct violated his constitutional right to free speech* and suggested the suspension may become permanent.
(* - poor Sydney "Kracken" (sp) Powell - that is the same defense she was using. Just not looking good for her)
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time for a return to his first career as a drag queen. ::) ::) ::)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome
Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) is a pejorative term usually for criticism or negative reactions to former United States President Donald Trump that are perceived to be irrational, and have little regard towards Trump's actual policy positions, or actions undertaken by his administration
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He's probably pulling a Tammy Faye with his mascara running everywhere from his tears.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome
Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) is a pejorative term usually for criticism or negative reactions to former United States President Donald Trump that are perceived to be irrational, and have little regard towards Trump's actual policy positions, or actions undertaken by his administration
We are talking about Rudy. Not Trump. Try to keep your TDfS (Trump Defensive Syndrome) in check.
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Now we definitely need a Politics board. ;D
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome
Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) is a pejorative term usually for criticism or negative reactions to former United States President Donald Trump that are perceived to be irrational, and have little regard towards Trump's actual policy positions, or actions undertaken by his administration
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Wait... lemme guess. You think this is legit and not a political hit? Right?
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Wait... lemme guess. You think this is legit and not a political hit? Right?
Yeah. Pretty sure it is legit. It's spelled out specifically why this action was taken. Let me guess... your feeble little mind has a conspiracy theory to spin it right?
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Yeah. Pretty sure it is legit. It's spelled out specifically why this action was taken. Let me guess... your feeble little mind has a conspiracy theory to spin it right?
Of course you think that. It’s that predictable
If you can’t add things up by now then there’s no help for you and by the courts definition (which consisted of 5 Dem women which ruled 5-0) that literally puts in jeopardy every attorney’s license in the country at risk.
Forget the lying on the FISA warrants though...right? Welcome to Nazi Germany
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Of course you think that. It’s that predictable
If you can’t add things up by now then there’s no help for you and by the courts definition (which consisted of 5 Dem women which ruled 5-0) that literally puts in jeopardy every attorney’s license in the country at risk.
Forget the lying on the FISA warrants though...right?
Forget lying to the courts though... right? Forget lying about The Big Steal.... right? Forget continuing the lie after lie to support Trumpy and your delusional ideas.... right?
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Forget lying to the courts though... right? Forget lying about The Big Steal.... right? Forget continuing the lie after lie to support Trumpy and your delusional ideas.... right?
Those falsified FISA warrants caused 5 years of the Federal attorneys and judges to lie in courts, the media to lie as well as pundits to lie
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Those falsified FISA warrants caused 5 years of the Federal attorneys and judges to lie in courts, the media to lie as well as pundits to lie
What this thread is about is Rudy's lies, which lead to him losing the right to practice law in NY. Do you dispute that? Or do you want to continue to ramble on and on off topic?
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What this thread is about is Rudy's lies, which lead to him losing the right to practice law in NY. Do you dispute that? Or do you want to continue to ramble on and on off topic?
This is thread is about the lefts double standard of bullshit and continued police state tactics against Trump and anyone that has any contact with him. I’d you don’t think this is purely political, you’re high.
The left continue to push and push not realizing their bullshit won’t be tolerated much longer and there won’t be a Goddamn thing they can do about it....so, keep pushing
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So your choice is to ramble on and on about things off topic. No surprise.
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So your choice is to ramble on and on about things off topic. No surprise.
Quit fucking skating. This isn’t about Rudy this is about Trump are you kidding me?
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Quit fucking skating. This isn’t about Rudy this is about Trump are you kidding me?
Pretty sure this thread is about Rudy. The thread title even says so.
It's been established already that you would rather just ramble on and on about things off topic.
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Pretty sure this thread is about Rudy. The thread title even says so.
It's been established already that you would rather just ramble on and on about things off topic.
You’re so clueless it’s mind boggling
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He's probably pulling a Tammy Faye with his mascara running everywhere from his tears.
I'll bet the mascara ran all over the floor of the oval office when Trump was throat fucking him Max Hardcore style.
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Wait... lemme guess. You think this is legit and not a political hit? Right?
Well…Governor Andrew Cuomo is still a lawyer in New York, so that tells you everything you need to know about this witch-hunt.
Democrats are still absolutely terrified of Donald Trump running for President again.
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This is thread is about the lefts double standard of bullshit and continued police state tactics against Trump and anyone that has any contact with him. I’d you don’t think this is purely political, you’re high.
The left continue to push and push not realizing their bullshit won’t be tolerated much longer and there won’t be a Goddamn thing they can do about it....so, keep pushing
this is not a thread about your delusions
It's about a scumbag lawyer who is is finally seeing the first consequences for his constant LIES
BTW - all those lies that THE TRAITOR and his sycophants have been spreading are ALL ABOUT separating idiots like you from their money
Be honest and tell us how much you've given to THE TRAITOR and his fellow liars this year so far
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Quit fucking skating. This isn’t about Rudy this is about Trump are you kidding me?
It definitely is a heads up warning about the dangers of associating with Trump. I read where Javanka is trying to social distance themselves from Trump, or appear to be doing so, because it has made them personas non grata in the social circles they once were on the fringes of.
Speaking of which Jared Kushner's touted success with the Israel peace plan, "Peace to Prosperity: A Vision to Improve the Lives of the Palestinian and Israeli People" literally blew up. Guess he patted himself on the back too soon. ::)
At least it appears Jared got a book deal with HarperCollins.....someth ing his father-in-law has yet to secure with any publisher. I guess for Trump there's always 'vanity publishing' as an option.
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Forget lying to the courts though... right? Forget lying about The Big Steal.... right? Forget continuing the lie after lie to support Trumpy and your delusional ideas.... right?
Sure he did. Lol
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this is not a thread about your delusions
It's about a scumbag lawyer who is is finally seeing the first consequences for his constant LIES
BTW - all those lies that THE TRAITOR and his sycophants have been spreading are ALL ABOUT separating idiots like you from their money
Be honest and tell us how much you've given to THE TRAITOR and his fellow liars this year so far
Up the ante mother fucker and debate me face to face...
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;D. ;D
https://www.tmz.com/2021/06/24/rudy-giuliani-law-license-suspended-donald-trump-election-fraud-claims/ (https://www.tmz.com/2021/06/24/rudy-giuliani-law-license-suspended-donald-trump-election-fraud-claims/)
;D. ;D
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You’re so clueless it’s mind boggling
My replies - unlike yours - are related to the thread topic. You have nothing of substance to add so you babble on.
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Sure he did. Lol
Yes he did. Try to spin it again you dumb fuck.
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And off we go!!!! :D
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President Donald Trump better watch out…
Hillary Clinton
Mitt Romney
Susan Rice
Michelle Oblowjob
Fairy Oblowjob
Michael Avenatti
Stormy Daniels
Little Bobby Mueller
Child Toucher Vickman
Cy Vance
Preet Bakkarha
Adam Schiff
Crying Chuckie Schumer
Nancy “Depends” Pelosi
Madonna
Cher
Joy Behar
Elizabeth Warren
Maxine “Pad” Waters
Eric Swallwell
Pete Buttplugigeg
Jerry Nadler
Rachel Madcow
James Comey
Peter Strzok
Andy McCabe
Lisa Page
Ruth Bader Jewburg
Anderson Cooper
Don Lemon
Brian Stelter
Morning Joe & Hoe
Justine Trudeau
Chelsea Clinton
Joy Reid
Stacy Abrams
AO-Semen
The Squad
Lisa Murkowski
Susan Collins
Peter Booker
Michael Horowitz
John Brennan
Joe Biden
Sally Yates
James Clapper
Jeff Sessions
Joseph Misfud
Are going to take him down….any minute now.
You just watch, any second now that great group of liberal liars, leeches, losers, and lesbians is going to take down President Donald Trump.
Any minute now….
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Actually I think it will happen from within his own circle.
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Yes he did. Try to spin it again you dumb fuck.
I put you along the same mentality as AOC, Strawman, Prime and Funk
50 years in practice without a complaint
“I'm not very happy about this. I love practicing law; it's my passion. I've done it for 50 years. I've done it for 50 years without, I think, a single complaint ever. I've been involved in some of the most bitter litigation imaginable — never had charges like this — and I've had my life threatened any number of times for the cases that I brought that I think really helped my country."
There's no doubt if I was representing Hillary Clinton, I'd be their hero," he said. "I represented my client so effectively that they're trying to get me to shut up, because they know what's going to happen. They know what's going to happen in Arizona, and they know what's going to happen in Georgia.
"The seriousness of respondent's uncontroverted misconduct cannot be overstated. This country is being torn apart by continued attacks on the legitimacy of the 2020 election and of our current president, Joseph R. Biden."
NOW..pay attention little man. I’ve said this next part right up until yesterday...
The only reason they're not controverted is they didn't let me controvert them," he said. "I've never had a hearing. I offered them the affidavits.
Go lick Strawmans man-clit
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I put you along the same mentality as AOC, Strawman, Prime and Funk
50 years in practice without a complaint
“I'm not very happy about this. I love practicing law; it's my passion. I've done it for 50 years. I've done it for 50 years without, I think, a single complaint ever. I've been involved in some of the most bitter litigation imaginable — never had charges like this — and I've had my life threatened any number of times for the cases that I brought that I think really helped my country."
There's no doubt if I was representing Hillary Clinton, I'd be their hero," he said. "I represented my client so effectively that they're trying to get me to shut up, because they know what's going to happen. They know what's going to happen in Arizona, and they know what's going to happen in Georgia.
"The seriousness of respondent's uncontroverted misconduct cannot be overstated. This country is being torn apart by continued attacks on the legitimacy of the 2020 election and of our current president, Joseph R. Biden."
NOW..pay attention little man. I’ve said this next part right up until yesterday...
The only reason they're not controverted is they didn't let me controvert them," he said. "I've never had a hearing. I offered them the affidavits.
Go lick Strawmans man-clit
Dream on.
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I put you along the same mentality as AOC, Strawman, Prime and Funk
I put you in the same mentality as a box of rocks, a bag of hair, or unflushed toilet paper. Only idiots like you fall for Rudy's, Wood's, MyPillowGuy's, Powell's, and Trumpy's lies. And you do every single time. You just lap that shit up like the dumb ass you are.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
The decision comes after an investigation into complaints of professional misconduct against Giuliani, the court said. Attorneys who practice law in New York must abide by the state’s Rules of Conduct, which govern the appropriate behavior of lawyers.
The court cited an instance in which Giuliani repeatedly stated that there were more Pennsylvania absentee ballots that came in during the election than were sent out, which was not true. “The true facts are that 3.08 million absentee ballots were mailed out before the general election, which more than accounted for the over 2.5 million mail-in ballots that were actually tallied,” the decision said.
Giuliani also claimed to have “hundreds of witnesses, experts, and investigative reports” that proved there was fraud, “none of which have been provided or identified,” the court said.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
The decision comes after an investigation into complaints of professional misconduct against Giuliani, the court said. Attorneys who practice law in New York must abide by the state’s Rules of Conduct, which govern the appropriate behavior of lawyers.
The court cited an instance in which Giuliani repeatedly stated that there were more Pennsylvania absentee ballots that came in during the election than were sent out, which was not true. “The true facts are that 3.08 million absentee ballots were mailed out before the general election, which more than accounted for the over 2.5 million mail-in ballots that were actually tallied,” the decision said.
Giuliani also claimed to have “hundreds of witnesses, experts, and investigative reports” that proved there was fraud, “none of which have been provided or identified,” the court said.
“The only reason they're not controverted is they didn't let me controvert them," he said. "I've never had a hearing. I offered them the affidavits.
Go lick Strawmans man-clit
🤷♂️
2022 is going to be fun
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“The only reason they're not controverted is they didn't let me controvert them," he said. "I've never had a hearing. I offered them the affidavits.
Go lick Strawmans man-clit
🤷♂️
2022 is going to be fun
Giuliani also claimed to have “hundreds of witnesses, experts, and investigative reports” that proved there was fraud, “none of which have been provided or identified,” the court said.
Will you even make it to 2022? The daily meltdowns and desperate delusions can't be healthy.
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Giuliani also claimed to have “hundreds of witnesses, experts, and investigative reports” that proved there was fraud, “none of which have been provided or identified,” the court said.
Will you even make it to 2022? The daily meltdowns and desperate delusions can't be healthy.
The court also need to provide discovery which they haven't. So all you have is "the court said" which in Dem/activist court means shit. You should chime into the thread I have on the G&O since you're an apologist
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The court also need to provide discovery which they haven't. So all you have is "the court said" which in Dem/activist court means shit. You should chime into the thread I have on the G&O since you're an apologist
Discovery? Hahahaha. You got to have a case first before reaching the discovery phase.
He didn’t. Powell didn’t. So just fuck on off with that bullshit.
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Here are a couple of links that could help those who don't understand how the court system works. There are some differences between Civil, criminal cases, There are also variables in state and federal courts. One of the first steps is determining if the court has jurisdiction.
https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/court-role-and-structure/comparing-federal-state-courts
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/resources/law_related_education_network/how_courts_work/cases_pretrial/
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Discovery? Hahahaha. You got to have a case first before reaching the discovery phase.
He didn’t. Powell didn’t. So just fuck on off with that bullshit.
You just underscored my points for the last 6 months 🤣
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You just underscored my points for the last 6 months 🤣
How's that?
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Didn't Rudy's own daughter basically call him a fucking retard not too long ago?
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How's that?
Coach is so fucking dumb that he doesn’t know the court doesn’t provide discovery. That is the responsibility of the two parties involved in litigation.
This is how Trumpturds deal with reality.
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You just underscored my points for the last 6 months 🤣
The only point I underscored was the fact you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
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“Words have consequences, especially for attorneys,” the board noted.
“Rudy knew the rules, and he broke them again and again, spouting lies about the November election,” it said. “Nor is this some case of broken windows ethical policing; the calumnies were as big as they come, about a subject as consequential as they come.”
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Fruity Rudy takes it in the booty... :o
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Giuliani's suspension from the law is unconstitutional
BY ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 06/28/21
Rudy Giuliani has been suspended from the practice of law without a hearing, based largely on First Amendment-protected statements he made outside of any court of law. A panel of the Appellate Division of New York suspended the former mayor of New York and former United States Attorney last week without giving him an opportunity to dispute the charges against him at an evidentiary hearing. Moreover, he was suspended largely on the basis of statements he made not in court but on television.
I am particularly familiar with many of his statements because I am advising the legal team representing MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell in his lawsuit against Dominion Voting Systems, regarding Lindell’s own comments about the 2020 election.
Although Giuliani is now entitled to a post-suspension hearing, it seems clear that the judges already have made up their minds, saying that the result will “likely” be “substantial permanent sanctions” — which means disbarment.
The courts have long held that a lawyer is not entitled to the full protection of the First Amendment for statements made in court. That may be understandable because a lawyer has a special obligation to be candid with judges and jurors.
But there are no compelling arguments why anyone — lawyer or non-lawyer — should be denied the full protection of the First Amendment when he or she participates in the marketplace of ideas on television, podcasts or other media, even when representing a client.
Any statements made in such a public context can be rebutted in the marketplace of ideas, and so the public needs no special protection from statements made by lawyers. This is especially true when the statements concern important and controversial political events like an election.
There is no doubt that Giuliani’s media statements, if made by a non-lawyer, would have been fully protected by the First Amendment, even if knowingly false. This is so for two reasons: Every citizen should have the right to express controversial views — even wrong-headed ones — about a contested election; and every citizen should have the right to hear such views and make up their own minds.
Consider the controversy over the cause of the spread of COVID-19: Initially, people were sanctioned on social media platforms for suggesting that the virus may have originated in a research lab in China; now, that still-unproven theory has been widely accepted — and widely discussed — as a real possibility, because the marketplace of ideas and information changed minds.
The rules under which Giuliani has been suspended are so vague that they cannot possibly satisfy the standards of due process, especially where public speech is concerned and clarity is required before it is suppressed.
The court cited a rule allowing disbarment for conduct, including speech that “adversely reflects on the lawyer’s fitness as a lawyer.” It is difficult to imagine a more subjective standard subject to selective application. The panel also cited a rule that called for disbarment for knowingly making “false statements of fact or law to a third person.”
If these rules were applied across the board fairly, and equitably, thousands of lawyers would be disbarred every year. I personally know of dozens of lawyers who seemingly have violated these rules. Lying and exaggeration are all too common in plea-bargaining, negotiations and soliciting clients. And yet these sins are never the basis for discipline against recidivating lawyers. I can document dozens of similar cases where disciplinary boards in New York and elsewhere have done nothing to lawyers who have committed misconduct far more egregious than that alleged against Giuliani, including prosecutorial misconduct that resulted in the conviction of innocent defendants. Giuliani clearly is the victim of selective suspension based on the political content of his public speech, rather than on neutral principles.
When I came of age in the 1950s, there were many such selective suspensions and disbarments of attorneys. Back then the victims were largely radical left-wing lawyers — communists, former communists and “fellow travelers” — or, in the South, they were civil rights lawyers. Today the victims of selective enforcement are largely right-wing supporters of former President Trump. The dangers to civil liberties and constitutional rights are similar in each instance.
Whether one is a liberal or a conservative, a Democrat or a Republican, everyone should be concerned when any lawyer — whether one approves or disapproves of their conduct — is suspended without a hearing based on vague criteria that curtail freedom of speech. As a liberal Democrat who voted for President Biden and who believes his election was fair and legitimate, I strongly disagree with the decision in the Giuliani case.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/560563-giulianis-suspension-from-the-law-is-unconstitutional
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Dershowitz must be an even worse attorney that Rudy
He should have at last skimmed the first few paragraphs of this document which is readily available online
You can't lie in court
For the reasons that follow, we conclude that there is uncontroverted evidence that respondent communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump’s failed effort at reelection in 2020. These false statements were made to improperly bolster respondent’s narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential election was stolen from his client. We conclude that respondent’s conduct immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law, pending further proceedings before the Attorney Grievance Committee (sometimes AGC or Committee).
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/read-giuliani-law-license-ruling/index.html
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Hahaha lots of pro Trumpy lawyers getting owned it appears.
No surprise.
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Fucking retards an opinion can not by definition be a lie. Saying the election was stolen is a valid opinion saying it wasn't is also a valid opinion. We all know both sides did lots of inappropriate things at what point does that constitute stealing an election?? Guess what that point is a fucking opinion
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Now Trumpy has an actual shot of clearing the Manhattan legal troubles without Rudy's stupid ass at the helm.
Small shot... but one nonetheless.
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Fucking retards an opinion can not by definition be a lie. Saying the election was stolen is a valid opinion saying it wasn't is also a valid opinion. We all know both sides did lots of inappropriate things at what point does that constitute stealing an election?? Guess what that point is a fucking opinion
you can't lie in court
Comrade Rudy can still say anything he wants to ...anywhere and any time
no one is stopping him from speaking
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Fucking retards an opinion can not by definition be a lie. Saying the election was stolen is a valid opinion saying it wasn't is also a valid opinion. We all know both sides did lots of inappropriate things at what point does that constitute stealing an election?? Guess what that point is a fucking opinion
Not only that, but he has support for everything he said. I listened to Megyn Kelly's podcast this morning. She had one of Rudy's lawyers on. He said Rudy has an affidavit or live witness supporting every allegation he made. But they didn't give Rudy a chance to present that evidence yet. Also said two of the lawyers in their office are retired judges, including one who most recently handled ethics complaints like this. Said they have never seen anything like this. He said the only time they suspend someone before they actually give them their due process rights is when the person is doing something like stealing their client's money. In this situation, Rudy hasn't made any comments about the election since January. They suspended him based on the potential that he might make allegations about election fraud, etc. before they actually have a hearing.
This is banana republic stuff. Obviously a political hit job.
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The Rude Effect...
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Rudy Giuliani's son Andrew gets zero votes from GOP leaders in bid for New York governor.
The son of former New York mayor and Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani received no support for his bid to be the next governor of New York in a secret vote by local Republican leaders this week.
In May, Andrew Giuliani announced he was seeking the GOP nomination for the 2022 contest, claiming he was a born politico. "I'm a politician out of the womb," he said. "It's in my DNA."
But leaders of the New York Republican Party are not feeling it.
As the Democrat & Chronicle reported, Giuliani, who served in the White House under ex-President Donald Trump, received no votes from GOP county chairs or members of the Republican state committee at a straw poll in Albany on Monday.
According to the New York GOP, more people chose to abstain - 10% - than vote for Giuliani, who has described his views as "very, very similar" to the former president he served.
US Congressman Lee Zeldin led the way with 85% of the vote, followed by former Westchester County Executive Rob Astorino with 5%, the party announced.
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Not only that, but he has support for everything he said. I listened to Megyn Kelly's podcast this morning. She had one of Rudy's lawyers on. He said Rudy has an affidavit or live witness supporting every allegation he made. But they didn't give Rudy a chance to present that evidence yet. Also said two of the lawyers in their office are retired judges, including one who most recently handled ethics complaints like this. Said they have never seen anything like this. He said the only time they suspend someone before they actually give them their due process rights is when the person is doing something like stealing their client's money. In this situation, Rudy hasn't made any comments about the election since January. They suspended him based on the potential that he might make allegations about election fraud, etc. before they actually have a hearing.
This is banana republic stuff. Obviously a political hit job.
LOL - who gives a shit
You still can't lie in court
Lying Rudy losing his license is going to be the least of his problems
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It's my opinion that I did not kill this person, your honor.
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Fucking retards an opinion can not by definition be a lie. Saying the election was stolen is a valid opinion saying it wasn't is also a valid opinion. We all know both sides did lots of inappropriate things at what point does that constitute stealing an election?? Guess what that point is a fucking opinion
You are right when the opinion is qualified as such. However, when an opinion is repeatedly stated as a fact, it boarders on lying. Moreover, once someone knows their opinion is wrong and yet continues to express it for whatever reason, like to gain sympathy or support, it has become a lie.
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You are right when the opinion is qualified as such. However, when an opinion is repeatedly stated as a fact, it boarders on lying. Moreover, once someone knows their opinion is wrong and yet continues to express it for whatever reason, like to gain sympathy or support, it has become a lie.
an "opinion" that is provably false is a lie
it's not a boarder or border of lying. It's a fucking a lie
Trumptards are fine with lies. Trumptardism is all lies
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LOL - who gives a shit
You still can't lie in court
Lying Rudy losing his license is going to be the least of his problems
No shit. How did affidavits and live witnesses work out with Roger Stone, Cohen, or Manafort? They all lied. Hahahaha.
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an "opinion" that is provably false is a lie
it's not a boarder or border of lying. It's a fucking a lie
Trumptards are fine with lies. Trumptardism is all lies
Words have consequences. As Rudy found out, and will continue to find out with MyPillowHack and "Kracken" (sp) Powell.
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It's my opinion that I did not kill this person, your honor.
Not a good analogy. A better one would be a lawyer saying "my client did not kill this person, your honor."
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You are right when the opinion is qualified as such. However, when an opinion is repeatedly stated as a fact, it boarders on lying. Moreover, once someone knows their opinion is wrong and yet continues to express it for whatever reason, like to gain sympathy or support, it has become a lie.
What if the person has a good faith belief that what they are being told is accurate? One example I heard on the podcast was someone who told Rudy they personally witnessed someone coming through a door with fresh ballots, about 100 percent of which were Biden votes. If Rudy believes this person, and repeats what that person says, that by definition isn't a lie. But I think all that stuff will come out when they actually give the man a hearing and a chance to defend himself.
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What if the person has a good faith belief that what they are being told is accurate? One example I heard on the podcast was someone who told Rudy they personally witnessed someone coming through a door with fresh ballots, about 100 percent of which were Biden votes. If Rudy believes this person, and repeats what that person says, that by definition isn't a lie. But I think all that stuff will come out when they actually give the man a hearing and a chance to defend himself.
you mean the ridiculous story that Rudy later he admitted he "exaggerated" about
yeah, that's a lie too
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/rudy-giuliani-admits-exaggerating-claims-065554193.html
Rudy Giuliani admits to exaggerating claims of voter fraud in Detroit
November 23, 2020
President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani appeared on Lou Dobbs Tonight Monday where he admitted to exaggerating claims of voter fraud in Detroit. This came just moments after he did exactly that. Giuliani claimed that in the early morning hours the day after the election, hundreds of thousands of ballots were brought in by what resembled garbage trucks. He also claimed that Detroit had an overvote rate of 400%, proving there must have been rampant voter fraud. But, just as with every other time Giuliani has made such claims, he failed to produce any evidence. The admission that he’s exaggerating came after Giuliani claimed that there were more votes cast in Detroit than there are citizens.
Video Transcript
RUDY GIULIANI: The city of Detroit probably had more voters than it had citizens. I'm exaggerating a bit. But all you have to do is look at that statistical data.
- Not long after the Michigan Board of Canvassers certified Joe Biden's victory in the state over President Trump, Rudy Giuliani appeared on Lou Dobbs tonight, where he admitted to exaggerating claims of voter fraud in Detroit. But just moments earlier, he did just that.
RUDY GIULIANI: What happened in Detroit can only be described as the worst fraud I've ever seen. The overvotes are 140%, 152%, 100%, 300%, 400%.
- The Michigan Department of State has denied claims of widespread voter fraud. And Giuliani has failed to produce any evidence of such, despite repeatedly making those claims, including on Monday night.
RUDY GIULIANI: 100,000 ballots were brought in 4:30 in the morning in Detroit, in trucks that look like garbage trucks-- in garbage pails, actually. All those ballots were counted for Biden.
We all know THE TRAITOR and his cast of grifters and con men/women used this "voter fraud" bullshit to grift money from dumbass Trumptards...some of whom post on this board
Just last week Michigan released the results of their own investigation and found no voter fraud
A long-awaited report on the 2020 election from a GOP-controlled Michigan Senate committee recommended that Democratic Attorney General Dana Nessel consider investigating individuals who pushed false claims "to raise money or publicity for their own ends."
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/23/michigan-senate-recommends-attorney-general-investigate-false-election-claims/5312166001/
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What if the person has a good faith belief that what they are being told is accurate? One example I heard on the podcast was someone who told Rudy they personally witnessed someone coming through a door with fresh ballots, about 100 percent of which were Biden votes. If Rudy believes this person, and repeats what that person says, that by definition isn't a lie. But I think all that stuff will come out when they actually give the man a hearing and a chance to defend himself.
It will be nice if this stuff is finally cleared up.
Up until recently, Rudy was an attorney. One would hope he was intelligent enough that he wouldn't repeat something with this much gravity before checking further....which he may have....we don't know this.
The post that followed yours suggests that Rudy has no problem 'exaggerating' the facts which in my opinion is code for lying.
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It will be nice if this stuff is finally cleared up.
Up until recently, Rudy was an attorney. One would hope he was intelligent enough that he wouldn't repeat something with this much gravity before checking further....which he may have....we don't know this.
The post that followed yours suggests that Rudy has no problem 'exaggerating' the facts which in my opinion is code for lying.
BUT, he doesnt guzzle groin grazy at Ye Ole Glory Hole, so thats a win compared to yourself...
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It will be nice if this stuff is finally cleared up.
Up until recently, Rudy was an attorney. One would hope he was intelligent enough that he wouldn't repeat something with this much gravity before checking further....which he may have....we don't know this.
The post that followed yours suggests that Rudy has no problem 'exaggerating' the facts which in my opinion is code for lying.
It will be nice when they actually give the man his due process and allow him to present evidence.
In the podcast I listened to, they said he has been licensed for over 50 years and never had a complaint filed against him.
I didn't read the post following mine, but if all he did was make arguments based on what witnesses told him then that isn't lying, even if what the witnesses said turn out to be false. Remember that a lie is not just a false statement. It's a statement that is false and the person who makes it knows it is false at the time he makes it.
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Good, comprehensive discussion about the problems with suspending Rudy without a hearing.
The Disciplinary Railroading of Rudy Guiliani
The freewheeling and politically-ionized standards employed by the court to suspend Guiliani’s law license on an emergency basis without hearing erode trust in our justice system.
Posted by Ameer Benno Tuesday, July 6, 2021
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/07/the-disciplinary-railroading-of-rudy-guiliani/
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Rudy Giuliani to Newsmax: Witch Hunt Shows 'Shocking Intellectual Dishonesty'
By Eric Mack | Monday, 12 July 2021
Efforts to discredit former President Donald Trump and anyone tied to him run deep into state and federal prosecutors and even the Republican Party, Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani told Newsmax.
"We have the proof that everything that I said was based on the testimony of other people," Giuliani said Monday on "Greg Kelly Reports" of a New York appeals court's suspension last month of his law license, which was also picked up by the District of Columbia last week until New York's suspension has been adjudicated.
"They never bothered to look at a single affidavit. I submitted my own affidavit, explaining the basis for what I said, and I also said we have, you know, 300 affidavits and any of them are available to you, if you want to check on what I'm saying."
Giuliani told Kelly that the appeals court's "intellectual dishonesty of the opinion is shocking."
"They may believe I didn't say that, and they just concluded that I hadn't given them [the affidavits]," Giuliani continued. "The intellectual dishonesty of the opinion is shocking."
Giuliani said his experience as a lawyer and prosecutor trumps that of those who have led the charge to have him suspended without hearing his case.
"It is actually amazing as a lawyer of 50 years who has a career that I think is far more accomplished than any of them; I'd like to know what they did for the city and country that is comparable to what I did," Giuliani said.
"Really, really sad people. It's a shame the lawyers failed themselves like that."
Giuliani also confirmed the veracity — "100%, sure, absolutely true" — of at least one of the claims in Michael Wolff's third critical exposé of the administration to be released Tuesday, "Landslide: The Final Days of the Trump Presidency."
The claims include an effort by members of the Republican National Committee under chair Ronna Romney McDaniel, niece of Trump critic Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, working to undermine Trump amid election fraud challenges after the 2020 presidential election.
"I've seen excerpts from Wolff's book," Giuliani told Kelly. "Probably every other one [of the reports] that I saw was false. This happens to be true, so I guess even a confirmed liar can tell the truth occasionally."
The claim in the book Giuliani was referring to included RNC legal counsel Justin Riemer rejecting Trump's attempts to contest the election amid allegations of voter fraud, saying Republicans would be better off raising money for the GOP with Trump out of the White House.
"This one happens to be true," Giuliani continued. "Wolff got a lot of his information from some of the Republicans that were the biggest to trying to undermine him, and they were actually closer to President Trump than this guy."
https://www.newsmax.com/
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Poor Rudy (continued :D )....
No one thought things could get worse. Oh wait... who are we kidding, we all KNEW things would get worse.
He's going broke from the mountain of legal fees he has incurred due to the legal investigation and the 1.2 Billion lawsuit. Not a dime from Trumpy. Certainly no paycheck for the $20,000 per day he requested from Trumpy either. Just another stiffed contractor.
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Earlier this month, the Daily Beast found that Giuliani had managed to raise a "paltry" $9,798 for his legal defense fund – about $4,990,202 short of his goal.
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The funny thing is that despite kissing Trumpy's ass nonstop and doing what he was told to do, Team Trumpy is blaming the entire legal fiasco Rudy is in as being his own fault. And to this point I completely agree with them.
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"Trump aides have been clear they see no mechanism for paying Giuliani's legal bills that isn't problematic for Trump, and they think Giuliani took actions a lawyer should have known were problematic."
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Unfortunately, I don't think the Kraken defense is going to work on this case either.
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Rudy was great for crime in NY, but thats about it (the alchy).
Thats also shows how useless Cuomo and the other kvnt are running things into the ground now.
From bad to horrific...
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But wait there is more.... (you can't make this up). The wily well versed legal counselor has unveiled his prominent legal defense strategy that is a sure fire win.
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"I'm more than willing to go to jail if they want to put me in jail," Giuliani said in a Friday interview. "And if they do, they're going to suffer the consequences in heaven.
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Never mind in court, or in this realm of reality, but you will be punished AFTER YOU ARE DEAD. Let's ignore for a moment the fact that Rudy might be suffering some of that post mortem punishment himself.
The only people that says something like this are guilty people with nothing else to fall back on. Every time someone trots out something along these lines, you can instantly tell they are guilty. Surefire indicator.
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you can't lie in court
Comrade Rudy can still say anything he wants to ...anywhere and any time
no one is stopping him from speaking
You can’t lie in front Congress either but Dems get away with it everyday with repercussions
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You can’t lie in front Congress either but Dems get away with it everyday with repercussions
Sure didn't stop Cohen, Manafort, Stone, etc... ::)
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Sure didn't stop Cohen, Manafort, Stone, etc... ::)
You’re hands down AOC stupid
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You’re hands down AOC stupid
You're hand down Trump stupid.
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"The truth isn't the truth." <---- HAHAHAHAHA epic foreshadowing by Rudy on his part.
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Newly published 2018 transcript shows Rudy Giuliani telling DOJ agents it was OK to lie in campaigns: 'Oh, you could throw a fake'. A newly public transcript of a February 2018 conversation shows Rudy Giuliani telling federal agents that it was OK to lie during presidential campaigns. The conversation happened in a room in Donald Trump's Washington, DC, hotel. It was meant to find out whether FBI agents leaked sensitive information to Giuliani during the 2016 election, as he had suggested in media appearances at the time. Giuliani took part in the interview voluntarily. Giuliani then said, according to the transcript: "Oh you could throw a fake."
To which Mukasey said, "You're under no obligation to tell the truth," per the text.
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Doubling down on dumb isn't a great plan.
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Rudy Giuliani said his false claims about Dominion Voting Systems' role in the 2020 presidential election were "substantially true" in a new court filing, even as he acknowledged that he doesn't understand how the company's voting software works.
The former New York mayor is facing a defamation lawsuit from Dominion, for which it seeks $1.3 billion in damages. A federal judge recently denied Giuliani's motion to dismiss the lawsuit, ruling that a jury could reasonably find he and others acted recklessly in claiming that Dominion had committed election fraud.
In an answer to Dominion's complaint submitted Wednesday, a lawyer for Giuliani doubled down on the conspiracy theories he pushed about the company.
"Plaintiffs' claims are barred in whole or in part because some and/or all of Giuliani's statements complained of are substantially true," the filing reads
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Hahahahaha. Why is this no surprise?
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Rudy Giuliani admits under oath that he got some of his 'evidence' of alleged election fraud from Facebook.
Rudy Giuliani admitted under oath that his "evidence" of voter fraud in the 2020 election came partly from Facebook and that he did not interview or fact-check his sources, reports say.
Donald Trump's former personal lawyer made the comments in a deposition on August 14 in relation to a defamation lawsuit brought by a former Dominion Voting Systems employee, Eric Coomer.
The conspiracy theories about Coomer were sparked by accusations made by right-wing podcast host Joe Oltmann.
Oltmann claimed to have infiltrated an Antifa conference call in which someone who identified themselves as "Eric from Dominion" boasted about preventing Trump from winning the election. Oltmann offered no proof of his claims. According to court papers filed by Coomer's lawyers, Giuliani spent "virtually no time" investigating the claims.
The filings said that Giuliani did not speak to Oltmann about the claims and did not reach out to Coomer or Dominion about them.
Giuliani said he was too busy when asked why he repeated Oltmann's accusations without verifying them.
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It is obvious Rudy suffers from dementia. Shame on Trump for encouraging and taking advantage of him these past couple of years and then refusing to help him out financially now that he's in deep dodo.
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It is obvious Rudy suffers from dementia. Shame on Trump for encouraging and taking advantage of him these past couple of years and then refusing to help him out financially now that he's in deep dodo.
Trumpy sure could use him right now. Suing Mary for $100 Million which he won't win, just like he didn't win the lawsuit to stop her book last year. (Just like he didn't win his defamation lawsuit against the NYT earlier this year)
Lost his lawsuit to enforce a NDA against Omarosa.
Lost his bid to the Electric Avenue lawsuit against him too.
Trumpy just isn't having any good luck with the courts. Again.
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Trumpy sure could use him right now. Suing Mary for $100 Million which he won't win, just like he didn't win the lawsuit to stop her book last year. (Just like he didn't win his defamation lawsuit against the NYT earlier this year)
Lost his lawsuit to enforce a NDA against Omarosa.
Lost his bid to the Electric Avenue lawsuit against him too.
Trumpy just isn't having any good luck with the courts. Again.
Meanwhile your boy is destroying the world and you’re commenting on trivial shit…way to avoid reality Strawman….er, I mean Lurkingforboys
50 years of practice and not a mark on his record and left wing hacks make up shit because they know Trump is coming 😂😂😂
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Meanwhile your boy is destroying the world and you’re commenting on trivial shit…way to avoid reality Strawman….er, I mean Lurkingforboys
50 years of practice and not a mark on his record and left wing hacks make up shit because they know Trump is coming 😂😂😂
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Meanwhile your boy is destroying the world and you’re commenting on trivial shit…way to avoid reality Strawman….er, I mean Lurkingforboys
50 years of practice and not a mark on his record and left wing hacks make up shit because they know Trump is coming 😂😂😂
He's destroying THE AMERICAN world, others don't give a shit about him !.
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Goddamn!
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Rudy... just can't get it together. Was he drunk again? Tried to weaponize his law license. Got curb stomped for it. Can't answer simple questions because it will result in either perjury or the truth would help the plaintiff and piss off the orange liar that owes him money.
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Rudy Giuliani struggled to answer basic questions at his attorney misconduct hearing.
Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani appeared Monday as the first witness in his own attorney misconduct hearing, but the proceedings quickly grew combative as the opposing counsel dinged Giuliani for failing to answer straightforward questions and frequently meandering off course.
The ethics case, brought by the Washington, DC Bar's Office of Disciplinary Counsel, zeroes in on Giuliani's effort to overturn the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania when he was then-President Donald Trump's personal attorney. Specifically, the ODC alleges that the former New York mayor filed a "frivolous" lawsuit seeking to nullify Pennsylvania's presidential election results, despite the fact that there was "no factual or legal basis" for Giuliani's claims of widespread voter fraud.
By filing the lawsuit, the ODC said, Giuliani violated the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct and "engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice."
On Monday, disciplinary counsel Hamilton Fox said in his opening arguments that Giuliani "weaponized his law license" in an effort to undermine the Constitution.
"Mr. Giuliani was responsible for filing a frivolous action asking a court in Pennsylvania to deny millions of people the right to vote," Fox said during the virtual hearing.
Fox grew increasingly frustrated with Giuliani as the proceedings went on. At one point, he was trying to get more details from Giuliani about his role in litigating the Pennsylvania case, but the former mayor repeatedly veered off course and started airing nonsense allegations of voter fraud in other states.
"Mr. Giuliani, I am trying to find out what your role was in writing — in drafting — the initial complaint in Pennsylvania," Fox said. "I'm asking you what time it is, and you're telling me how to make a watch."
"Well, you know, I really do think you should let me answer the question, so I can get the context in which I was operating," Giuliani said. "So you don't create the false impression that all my time and attention was given to one matter when that was not the case."
Later in the proceedings, Giuliani was again reminded that he was there to answer questions as a witness when he started opining on a 5-2 Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling about voting procedures in the state.
"I recall this very, very clearly," Giuliani said of the ruling. "This is a very debatable opinion."
Fox ignored Giuliani and pointed out that the ruling held that election observers "be permitted to remain in the room where the ballots are being counted."
"So you would agree that my position is reasonable, since it was the same position as ... the dissenters," Giuliani said. "It was hardly —"
Fox then interjected, saying, "Mr. Giuliani, I ask the questions."
Robert Bernius, a retired lawyer who presided over the hearings, also tried multiple times to rein Giuliani in.
"Mr. Giuliani, I understand your frustration, but this is not the point at which you should argue your claims," he said. "Just answer the questions. Thank you."
Earlier in the day, Bernius interrupted another long-winded rant from Giuliani to remind him that he was testifying as a "witness."
The former mayor then said that he had been "persecuted for three or more years" and that his actions were taken out of context.
"You've been a trial lawyer for a long time, and you understand how the process works," Bernius said. "The process is regularized."
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Rudy is either dumb like a fox or crazy as a loon. ;)
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IF Rudy Guliani came forth with evidence from medical doctors of his mental deficiencies and that was the crux of his case, I would lean towards giving him a pass so long as all his attorney licenses, and privileges were relinquished as well. Same with the Kracken lawyer. They were in nutsville obviously in the last 4 years. It is clear to ME they are a bit unhinged and because of that I would be lenient if it were contingent upon them given up their power to be attorneys and dangers to society again. And I would love the ability to remove their followers voting privileges just to be safe. The people that believed them are not fit to vote in my opinion.
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IF Rudy Guliani came forth with evidence from medical doctors of his mental deficiencies and that was the crux of his case, I would lean towards giving him a pass so long as all his attorney licenses, and privileges were relinquished as well. Same with the Kracken lawyer. They were in nutsville obviously in the last 4 years. It is clear to ME they are a bit unhinged and because of that I would be lenient if it were contingent upon them given up their power to be attorneys and dangers to society again. And I would love the ability to remove their followers voting privileges just to be safe. The people that believed them are not fit to vote in my opinion.
The scent of TRUTH is strong with this one. The best part was when everyone noticed he was wearing TWO watches. Even he seemed surprised by that. LOL
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IF Rudy Guliani came forth with evidence from medical doctors of his mental deficiencies and that was the crux of his case, I would lean towards giving him a pass so long as all his attorney licenses, and privileges were relinquished as well. Same with the Kracken lawyer. They were in nutsville obviously in the last 4 years. It is clear to ME they are a bit unhinged and because of that I would be lenient if it were contingent upon them given up their power to be attorneys and dangers to society again. And I would love the ability to remove their followers voting privileges just to be safe. The people that believed them are not fit to vote in my opinion.
As of September this year:
Powell is fighting $175,000 in sanctions imposed against her and other lawyers involved in the failed election lawsuit.
September 28, 2022
Kraken Lawyer Sidney Powell's Countersuit Against Dominion Gets LOL-ed Out Of Court
So much judicial eye-roll.
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Rudy, Sidney, MyPillow, Qoach... ahahhahahahaah it is hilarious watching them spinning the same debunked and defeated excuses over and over trying to get traction that was never there in the first place.
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And I would love the ability to remove their followers voting privileges just to be safe. The people that believed them are not fit to vote in my opinion.
Interesting take. Wonder if you feel the same about the fucking idiots that voted for the guy with limited mental capabilities currently being held up as a prop in the leadership role of this country?
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Interesting take. Wonder if you feel the same about the fucking idiots that voted for the guy with limited mental capabilities currently being held up as a prop in the leadership role of this country?
Are you referring to those who supported a mental intellect that is proud he can identify man, woman, dog, and Tv camera who got his ass kicked in his re-election attempt that the only excuse he could cry about is “rigged”?
Yeah those need to be removed from the voting pool. Jan6 has done that for over 900. :D
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Are you referring to those who supported a mental intellect that is proud he can identify man, woman, dog, and Tv camera who got his ass kicked in his re-election attempt that the only excuse he could cry about is “rigged”?
Yeah those need to be removed from the voting pool. Jan6 has done that for over 900. :D
I was actually referring to people that support the guy that gets lost standing behind a podium, lets Americans get killed overseas, destroys American economies and trades a disgustingly ugly lesbian bulldyke for an international arms dealer.
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I was actually referring to people that support the guy that gets lost standing behind a podium, lets Americans get killed overseas, destroys American economies and trades a disgustingly ugly lesbian bulldyke for an international arms dealer.
Same guy with the great Administration numbers and zero scandals and investigations?
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And the hits keep coming....
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Rudy Giuliani gets hit with 2 more counts in Smartmatic's defamation lawsuit.
A New York appeals court on Tuesday reinstated two claims in Smartmatic's defamation lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani over the lawyer's false claims that the election technology company rigged the 2020 election.
Smartmatic first filed its lawsuit in February 2021 against the conservative media network; its hosts Jeanine Pirro, Maria Bartiromo, and Lou Dobbs; and Trump lawyers Giuliani and Sidney Powell. The lawsuit alleged Giuliani and Powell pushed a false theory that Smartmatic had flipped votes from then-President Trump to now-President Biden, and Fox News either egged them on or failed to sufficiently challenge those claims.
A New York appeals court on Tuesday reinstated two claims in Smartmatic's defamation lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani over the lawyer's false claims that the election technology company rigged the 2020 election.
Smartmatic first filed its lawsuit in February 2021 against the conservative media network; its hosts Jeanine Pirro, Maria Bartiromo, and Lou Dobbs; and Trump lawyers Giuliani and Sidney Powell. The lawsuit alleged Giuliani and Powell pushed a false theory that Smartmatic had flipped votes from then-President Trump to now-President Biden, and Fox News either egged them on or failed to sufficiently challenge those claims.
In March, a lower court dismissed two of the 16 counts filed against Giuliani, an attorney who fought on behalf of former President Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 presidential election results.
The new decision, from New York's appellate division, lets those two counts stand.
An attorney representing Giuliani didn't immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.
Tuesday's decision also reinstated Jeanine Pirro, a Fox News host, as a defendant in the case.
Smartmatic has also tried to include Fox News's parent company, Fox Corporation, as a defendant in the case. A lower court tossed that claim but the appeals court gave the company another chance to bolster its argument.
Smartmatic plans to file an amended lawsuit that details the involvement of Fox Corporation chairperson Rupert Murdoch and CEO Lachlan Murdoch, Smartmatic attorney Erik J. Connolly said in a statement.
"While recognizing that the complaint adequately alleged claims for defamation and disparagement by Fox News, the appellate court required Smartmatic to further identify the specific individuals at Fox Corporation responsible for the defamatory publications," Connolly said. "Smartmatic will do so."
Fox News has fought vigorously against the case, claiming it was simply doing its job by reporting on Trump's claims about the election.
"There is nothing more newsworthy than covering the president of the United States and his lawyers making allegations of voter fraud," a Fox News spokesperson told Insider. "We are confident we will prevail as freedom of the press is foundational to our democracy and must be protected, in addition to the damages claims being outrageous, unsupported, and not rooted in sound financial analysis, serving as nothing more than a flagrant attempt to deter our journalists from doing their jobs."
The portions of Smartmatic's lawsuit against Powell were moved to a court in Washington, DC, where the case remains ongoing.
Smartmatic's litigation runs parallel to a separate set of lawsuits from Dominion Voting Systems, another election technology company caught up in false conspiracy theories about the presidential election.
Dominion's lawsuit against Fox News is set to go to trial in April in Delaware. Fox Corporation is a defendant in that lawsuit and the technology company was able to depose Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, court records show.
"Hopefully the defendants are finally realizing they will be held accountable for the lies they intentionally spread about Smartmatic following the 2020 Presidential election," said Smartmatic's CEO Antonio Mugica said in a statement, adding: "The Fox defendants left us with no choice but to pursue legal action to repair the damage they caused to Smartmatic's reputation and business."
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And the hits keep coming....
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Rudy Giuliani gets hit with 2 more counts in Smartmatic's defamation lawsuit.
A New York appeals court on Tuesday reinstated two claims in Smartmatic's defamation lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani over the lawyer's false claims that the election technology company rigged the 2020 election.
Smartmatic first filed its lawsuit in February 2021 against the conservative media network; its hosts Jeanine Pirro, Maria Bartiromo, and Lou Dobbs; and Trump lawyers Giuliani and Sidney Powell. The lawsuit alleged Giuliani and Powell pushed a false theory that Smartmatic had flipped votes from then-President Trump to now-President Biden, and Fox News either egged them on or failed to sufficiently challenge those claims.
A New York appeals court on Tuesday reinstated two claims in Smartmatic's defamation lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani over the lawyer's false claims that the election technology company rigged the 2020 election.
Smartmatic first filed its lawsuit in February 2021 against the conservative media network; its hosts Jeanine Pirro, Maria Bartiromo, and Lou Dobbs; and Trump lawyers Giuliani and Sidney Powell. The lawsuit alleged Giuliani and Powell pushed a false theory that Smartmatic had flipped votes from then-President Trump to now-President Biden, and Fox News either egged them on or failed to sufficiently challenge those claims.
In March, a lower court dismissed two of the 16 counts filed against Giuliani, an attorney who fought on behalf of former President Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 presidential election results.
The new decision, from New York's appellate division, lets those two counts stand.
An attorney representing Giuliani didn't immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.
Tuesday's decision also reinstated Jeanine Pirro, a Fox News host, as a defendant in the case.
Smartmatic has also tried to include Fox News's parent company, Fox Corporation, as a defendant in the case. A lower court tossed that claim but the appeals court gave the company another chance to bolster its argument.
Smartmatic plans to file an amended lawsuit that details the involvement of Fox Corporation chairperson Rupert Murdoch and CEO Lachlan Murdoch, Smartmatic attorney Erik J. Connolly said in a statement.
"While recognizing that the complaint adequately alleged claims for defamation and disparagement by Fox News, the appellate court required Smartmatic to further identify the specific individuals at Fox Corporation responsible for the defamatory publications," Connolly said. "Smartmatic will do so."
Fox News has fought vigorously against the case, claiming it was simply doing its job by reporting on Trump's claims about the election.
"There is nothing more newsworthy than covering the president of the United States and his lawyers making allegations of voter fraud," a Fox News spokesperson told Insider. "We are confident we will prevail as freedom of the press is foundational to our democracy and must be protected, in addition to the damages claims being outrageous, unsupported, and not rooted in sound financial analysis, serving as nothing more than a flagrant attempt to deter our journalists from doing their jobs."
The portions of Smartmatic's lawsuit against Powell were moved to a court in Washington, DC, where the case remains ongoing.
Smartmatic's litigation runs parallel to a separate set of lawsuits from Dominion Voting Systems, another election technology company caught up in false conspiracy theories about the presidential election.
Dominion's lawsuit against Fox News is set to go to trial in April in Delaware. Fox Corporation is a defendant in that lawsuit and the technology company was able to depose Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, court records show.
"Hopefully the defendants are finally realizing they will be held accountable for the lies they intentionally spread about Smartmatic following the 2020 Presidential election," said Smartmatic's CEO Antonio Mugica said in a statement, adding: "The Fox defendants left us with no choice but to pursue legal action to repair the damage they caused to Smartmatic's reputation and business."
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Hi Straw Man!
You are an intolerant, racist, pervert, a liar and a coward, hiding behind multiple gimmick accounts.
Besides, my personal belief is anyone who holds a fundamentalist belief in any religion is mentally ill (for real) which again makes for a pointless discussion
LOL
Settle down Aunt Jemima
Pretty racist comment from a supposed non-racist liberal.
FYI - I don't discuss religion with my clients, just like I do discuss how often they bone their wives (or husbands).
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Changing someone’s post because you can’t refute it is weak sauce. Which is no surprise.
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Well, well, well….
Looks like little Rudy got hit with his own rape lawsuit.
In addition to he and Trumpy being accused of plotting to sell pardons. I guess this is why Trumpy hasn’t come to the defense or to help any of the J6 idiots. They can’t afford the $2 million price tag.
Just another day, another lawsuit, another example of the grifting and greed that never stops.
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Well, well, well….
Looks like little Rudy got hit with his own rape lawsuit.
In addition to he and Trumpy being accused of plotting to sell pardons. I guess this is why Trumpy hasn’t come to the defense or to help any of the J6 idiots. They can’t afford the $2 million price tag.
Just another day, another lawsuit, another example of the grifting and greed that never stops.
link?
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link?
Best I can do since I am on my phone and internet is sketchy. Japan might have high speed trains but their wifi sucks. I tried twice to post link and it times out.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-plotted-014413715.html
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-plotted-014413715.html
Remember, during the CNN townhall the other evening Trump said, "I am inclined to pardon many of them," Trump said of the protesters. "I can't say for every single one because a couple of them probably — they got out of control." The thing is most of the rioters who were charged and convicted do not have $2,000,000. So, it is not clear exactly who Rudy thought would pay the ransom.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-plotted-014413715.html
Dumb low IQ bitch copy and paste ::)
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Remember, during the CNN townhall the other evening Trump said, "I am inclined to pardon many of them," Trump said of the protesters. "I can't say for every single one because a couple of them probably — they got out of control." The thing is most of the rioters who were charged and convicted do not have $2,000,000. So, it is not clear exactly who Rudy thought would pay the ransom.
Two TDS retardz discussing Trump and their TDS, hilarious... Remember when the country was in better shape?? (Non Libtard years)?
Energy super-power, less hate and racial division, more secure border, better market and outlook (not worst in history like we have now)??
Oh those times were great (and gone) thx to insane kvnty libturdz LOL
Couple of cokk consumers, Lurking for Cock, and the Glory Hole Guzzler...
Poorest excuse for "men" (except when they fukk their dead dadz)...
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Rudy has been goofy in recent history for sure, but the streets of NY were awesome when he was Mayor.
Now it's shit.
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Rudy has been goofy in recent history for sure, but the streets of NY were awesome when he was Mayor.
Now it's shit.
Rudy and Bloomberg were the two best mayors of all time.
Deblasio and Adams have been a disaster for this city.
Liberal cult members like primefag would rather live in filth and drug infested dens of ghetto than admit that.
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Rudy and Bloomberg were the two best mayors of all time.
Deblasio and Adams have been a disaster for this city.
Liberal cult members like primefag would rather live in filth and drug infested dens of ghetto than admit that.
Well, the NYers keep electing these jackasses.
Hochul too - Cuomo botched Covid completely, and they put in the person who was right next to him the whole time.
Shitheads.
And they wonder why everyone is leaving the state. NYC is f'n amazing, and they're squandering it.
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Two TDS retardz discussing Trump and their TDS, hilarious... Remember when the country was in better shape?? (Non Libtard years)?
Energy super-power, less hate and racial division, more secure border, better market and outlook (not worst in history like we have now)??
Oh those times were great (and gone) thx to insane kvnty libturdz LOL
Couple of cokk consumers, Lurking for Cock, and the Glory Hole Guzzler...
Poorest excuse for "men" (except when they fukk their dead dadz)...
I do remember periods when the U.S. was in great shape. One that stands out for me was between 1993 and 2000, When the United States exhibited the best economic performance of the past three decades. Bill Clinton was the U.S. President from January 20, 1993 – January 20, 2001.
-Back to name calling, are we? What a disappointment. You had a moment there when you were apologetic and civil. That was impressive.
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Two TDS retardz discussing Trump and their TDS, hilarious... Remember when the country was in better shape?? (Non Libtard years)?
Energy super-power, less hate and racial division, more secure border, better market and outlook (not worst in history like we have now)??
Oh those times were great (and gone) thx to insane kvnty libturdz LOL
Couple of cokk consumers, Lurking for Cock, and the Glory Hole Guzzler...
Poorest excuse for "men" (except when they fukk their dead dadz)...
More gay projections from resident scat admirer. Why do short people tend to be the closet cases around? BDS just making them cry.
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-Back to name calling, are we? What a disappointment. You had a moment there when you were apologetic and civil. That was impressive.
It’s not surprising. Any time facts are posted that can’t be refuted or they have nothing to say….. out comes the gay talk. It’s typical Republicunt operating strategy. If you can’t address the subject or challenge the facts then dazzle them with self loathing and latent homosexual projections. It’s quite funny actually. Watching them regurgitate the same projections over and over simply because they have to say something.
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It’s not surprising. Any time facts are posted that can’t be refuted or they have nothing to say….. out comes the gay talk. It’s typical Republicunt operating strategy. If you can’t address the subject or challenge the facts then dazzle them with self loathing and latent homosexual projections. It’s quite funny actually. Watching them regurgitate the same projections over and over simply because they have to say something.
Says the low IQ bitch who spend hours a day being humiliated here ::)
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It’s not surprising. Any time facts are posted that can’t be refuted or they have nothing to say….. out comes the gay talk. It’s typical Republicunt operating strategy. If you can’t address the subject or challenge the facts then dazzle them with self loathing and latent homosexual projections. It’s quite funny actually. Watching them regurgitate the same projections over and over simply because they have to say something.
My straight and gay friends who happen to be republicans don't resort to derogatory gay slander when they are at a loss for words about politics. I think this is unique to Getbig. That Soul Crusher and others are posting in a bodybuilding forum and bodybuilding admittedly attracts men who admire other men's bodies which is almost the definition of gay, makes him and the others both hypocritical and homophobic.
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My straight and gay friends who happen to be republicans don't resort to derogatory gay slander when they are at a loss for words about politics. I think this is unique to Getbig. That Soul Crusher and others are posting in a bodybuilding forum and bodybuilding admittedly attracts men who admire other men's bodies which is almost the definition of gay, makes him and the others both hypocritical and homophobic.
Once you get them riled up, the gay projections just keep coming. They can’t refute or debunk any facts and then it’s straight to the queer talk. Once that starts you know you are in their head and they have nothing else to contribute to the topic. It’s almost too easy.
But you are correct about it being here. I have never seen a more latent homosexual crowd of Republicans than the peanut gallery here.
Getbig seems to be the place that they can live their true lives as close as possible.
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Once you get them riled up, the gay projections just keep coming. They can’t refute or debunk any facts and then it’s straight to the queer talk. Once that starts you know you are in their head and they have nothing else to contribute to the topic. It’s almost too easy.
But you are correct about it being here. I have never seen a more latent homosexual crowd of Republicans than the peanut gallery here.
Getbig seems to be the place that they can live their true lives as close as possible.
Says the low IQ bitch who spends hours a day being humiliated here ::)
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And…….. +1 to the lawsuit count for Rudy.
Hahahhaha. What a “scumbag”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/grocery-store-employee-sues-rudy-200931921.html
Cue in the retards to post their usual BS.
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And…….. +1 to the lawsuit count for Rudy.
Hahahhaha. What a “scumbag”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/grocery-store-employee-sues-rudy-200931921.html
Cue in the retards to post their usual BS.
Dumb low IQ bitch copy and paste ::)
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Hahaha Rudy is just Trumpy-Lite. Right down to not paying his attorney.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rudy-giuliani-election-fraud-lawyer-200243031.html
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Hahaha Rudy is just Trumpy-Lite. Right down to not paying his attorney.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rudy-giuliani-election-fraud-lawyer-200243031.html
Dumb low IQ bitch copy and paste ::)
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Ahhh Rudy, you never fail to
disappoint humor everyone.
Just one blow after another. You and Trumpy must be having a contest to see how many lawsuits one can rack up. "It is amazing how so many people that worked for Trump have ended up spending millions defending lawsuits or disciplinary actions against them. And even more amazing that he is still able to find people to work for him."
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A federal judge has ordered Rudy Giuliani to provide a detailed accounting of his finances and net worth in connection with a lawsuit filed by two Georgia poll workers who contend the Trump lawyer defamed them by publicly accusing them of fraud in the 2020 presidential election.
U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell issued the order during an unusual hearing Friday on ongoing disputes about access to Giuliani’s evidence related to the suit brought by Ruby Freeman and Wandrea Moss two years ago.
During the nearly 3-hour hearing, Howell repeatedly expressed irritation at having to expend considerable time on the discovery dispute, which she suggested should have been worked out by the parties.
“I can’t say I’m happy about it,” the judge said, later referring to Giuliani’s efforts to search for relevant emails and messages as a “murky mess.”
While the court session explored a variety of issues about evidence in the case, much of the focus was on Giuliani’s claim in a recent court filing that he could not perform further searches of emails and other records stored in an electronic database because the vendor was seeking $320,000 to allow that. The former mayor, U.S. Attorney and Justice Department official said he simply could not afford that sum.
Howell said Giuliani’s “claim of poverty” meant that the plaintiffs were entitled to insight into his finances.
An attorney for Giuliani, Joseph Sibley, said the plaintiffs should not be provided some personal information, like court filings detailing Giuliani’s obligations in his 2019 divorce from his third wife, Judith Nathan.
But Howell said the plaintiffs were entitled to know about Giuliani’s financial condition, including the divorce-related payments, before deciding whether to help foot the bill for document searches in the case. Typically, parties must handle their own costs to comply with discovery obligations.
“I think that would be pertinent to evaluating his financial net worth,” the judge said.
Giuliani interjected at various points in the lengthy hearing, sometimes despite signals from Sibley asking his client to hold back. The former mayor said complying with the document demands in the poll workers’ libel suit was complicated by the fact that the FBI seized all of his electronics in April 2021, as prosecutors investigated potential violations of foreign-agent laws in connection with Giuliani’s work in Ukraine.
“The FBI took every electronic device in my apartment and my law office,” said Giuliani, who often reminded the judge about his days as a federal prosecutor. “Having done this work at one time in my life, this was about as exhaustive as you can get.”
Giuliani was never charged in the investigation, which has been closed.
“I’ve been dealing with this for 50 years. I understand the obligation,” an indignant Giuliani added. “There’s nothing I want to hide. I’d like them to see everything. … Not being perfect doesn’t mean you’re deleting things. I don’t delete things.”
Giuliani explained that he’d run various keywords himself through his social media apps and other accounts, but Howell questioned the thoroughness and accuracy of that. “This manual search is unverifiable,” she said.
An attorney for the poll workers, Meryl Governski, said the plaintiffs got emails from third parties they subpoenaed that were sent to or from Giuliani but that he never produced in the litigation.
“We think the time has come for him to engage professional help,” Governski told Howell.
Sibley told the judge that a former lawyer for Giuliani is trying to work out a payment plan with the vendor who has the data gathered by the FBI, but could not offer a timetable to resolve that dispute.
“This is torture by process,” Giuliani muttered as he left the courtroom during a break. He later made a somewhat more restrained complaint to the judge.
“This is punishment by process. ... I get what they’re doing,” the former mayor declared.
Howell, an appointee of former President Barack Obama, had ordered that Giuliani appear in person for Friday’s hearing. That, too, is rare since lawyers typically hash out such issues without their clients present.
In addition to ordering Giuliani to detail his finances, the judge gave him a deadline of the end of the month to identify all the devices and other forms of records storage he used during the time period relevant to the suit.
The suit at issue Friday accuses Giuliani of defaming Freeman and Moss by alleging that they conspired to exclude observers from an Atlanta ballot counting site, that they hid stacks of unauthorized ballots on election night and introduced them into ballot-counting machines. The women say the claims are nonsense and have caused them to be subjected to harassment.
An earlier version of the suit also sought damages from the company behind One America News, two of its owners and one of its employees who worked closely with Giuliani. The parties connected to One America News reached a settlement with Freeman and Moss about a year ago, leaving Giuliani as the sole remaining defendant in the suit.
After the hearing, Giuliani declined to speak to reporters about the document fight. “I don’t comment on discovery disputes,” he said.
However, outside the courthouse, he held forth on a series of other subjects. He portrayed himself as a victim of a “fascist state” seeking to punish anyone who provided legal counsel to former President Donald Trump.
“Your rights have been seriously impinged by the fascist tactics that have been used in order to get Donald Trump, one of them being persecuting his attorneys,” Giuliani said.
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https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Judge+orders+Rudy+Giuliani+to+detail+finances+in+election+defamation+suit
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Oh that Rudy..... just can't help himself.
To be fair, the choice is very simple. Be honest and avoid indictment or keep lying until Trump decide it's time to throw you under the bus like he's done to practically everyone else so far. Guess ol' Trumpy is kind of wishing he hadn't stiffed Rudy and didn't pay him a while back.
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“This won’t go well for Trump”: Experts say Giuliani “trying to avoid indictment” by cutting a deal
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%E2%80%9CThis+won%E2%80%99t+go+well+for+Trump%E2%80%9D%3A+Experts+say+Giuliani+%E2%80%9Ctrying+to+avoid+indictment%E2%80%9D+by+cutting+a+deal
Former Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani was interviewed by special counsel Jack Smith's team last week as part of its investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election, sources told CNN and The New York Times.
The "voluntary interview, which took place under what is known as a proffer agreement," comes as the special counsel probe has ramped up in recent weeks, according to the Times.
Sources told the outlet that the interview "touched on some of the most important aspects" of the probe into the ways that former President Donald Trump tried to overturn his loss.
A proffer agreement is an understanding between prosecutors and subjects of a criminal investigation that can precede a formal cooperation agreement, the report noted. Subjects agree to provide information to the government in exchange for avoiding potential charges or to avoid testifying under a subpoena before a grand jury. In exchange, prosecutors agree not to use their statements against them in criminal proceedings unless they lied.
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"Not a legal defense": Trump Jan. 6 lawyers "appear to have criminal exposure" as DOJ hauls in Rudy
Smith's team pressed Giuliani about the fake elector scheme and the role played by Trump legal adviser John Eastman in the plot. Giuliani also discussed former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who pushed bizarre conspiracy theories that voting machines were hacked to steal the election before she was sanctioned by a federal judge.
Prosecutors also asked Giuliani about the scene at the Willard Hotel, where he, Eastman, and Trump advisers Steve Bannon and Boris Ephsteyn, among others, gathered to discuss strategies ahead of the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol riot.
Giuliani's interview came as prosecutors "appear to be nearing charging decisions" in the fake elector scheme, a source told CNN, as prosecutors have pressed attorneys to "quickly bring in other witnesses for interviews."
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If Rudy decides he is going to throw Trumpy under the bus first, it is going to be laughable. Amazing anyone would let that drunken cooter run around flashing his horse teeth while doing some underhanded/illegal shit in front of him (and possibly with him). If you are that dumb, you need to go down.
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Looks like bad news for Donald Trump in the investigation into his attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election: Rudy Giuliani is now talking to prosecutors.
“There might be no person other than Donald Trump more closely associated with those efforts to overturn the election,” Melber said on Wednesday night. “No person more tightly aligned with the strategy, the big lie, the attempts at every level ― state, local, elector, and then ultimately marching and storming the Capitol ― might be no person larger than Giuliani.”
The former New York mayor and Trump attorney reportedly met with prosecutors under a proffer agreement, which is sometimes a precursor to a cooperation arrangement, although it’s not yet clear if Giuliani will go that far.
But Melber said there is almost certainly “great interest” in the Justice Department in getting Giuliani to flip, and the fact that he sat for an interview is a sign the probe is “intensifying.”
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I hope you Trumpturds are donating to his legal funds... because Trumpy sure isn't.
Now why do you think he wouldn't - or couldn't :D - turn over evidence in the case? In fairness to Rudy, it’s really hard to turn over evidence when you don’t have any. If the courts would only accept conspiracy theories, he’d be happy to provide thousands of those though. ;D
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Giuliani Ordered to Pay Georgia Election Workers’ Attorney Fees
Rudy Giuliani was ordered to pay the attorney fees of two Georgia election workers suing him for defamation, after a judge found he failed to comply with his obligations to turn over evidence in the case.
US District Judge Beryl Howell entered an order on Friday directing Giuliani to cover what it cost the lawyers for Ruby Freeman and her daughter Wandrea “Shaye” Moss to pursue their successful motion to compel him to produce information.
The order doesn’t specify the amount he’ll owe; the judge directed the plaintiffs to disclose that in a later filing. Howell wrote that Giuliani had failed to show that his resistance to the plaintiffs’ discovery requests was “substantially justified,” which meant he was required to pay their attorney fees.
Freeman and Moss became the subject of 2020 post-election voter fraud conspiracy theories that Giuliani, former President Donald Trump, and other Trump allies promoted. Earlier this week, the Georgia State Election Board announced it had formally cleared Freeman and Moss of any wrongdoing.
Freeman and Moss had sued Giuliani in federal district court in Washington in December 2021. In recent months, their attorneys had argued to Howell that Giuliani was dragging his feet in turning over evidence and had failed to perform adequate searches.
Giuliani maintained that he tried to fulfill the evidence requests in good faith. But Howell wrote in her latest order that until the fight came before her, Giuliani had “arbitrarily limited” how he searched certain sources of information, performed “imprecise” manual searches of his electronic accounts, and delayed making productions.
“We are pleased with the court’s order, and look forward to our clients having their day in court,” Michael Gottlieb, a lead attorney for Freeman and Moss, said in a statement.
Giuliani’s attorney did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
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It's all over Rudy. You better be delivering some fantastic evidence to help with your plea bargaining down the road.
hahahaha
“He claimed massive election fraud but had no evidence of it,” (just like some retards on this board.) ;D
Rudy himself admitted that he followed social media rather than finding true evidence.
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Disciplinary panel calls for Rudy Giuliani’s disbarment
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Disciplinary+panel+calls+for+Rudy+Giuliani%E2%80%99s+disbarment
A Washington, D.C.-based bar discipline committee concluded Friday that Rudy Giuliani should be disbarred for “frivolous” and “destructive” efforts to derail the 2020 presidential election in support of former President Donald Trump.
“He claimed massive election fraud but had no evidence of it,” the three-member panel declared in a 38-page decision. “By prosecuting that destructive case Mr. Giuliani, a sworn officer of the Court, forfeited his right to practice law.”
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This is why it's important to pay your attorney bills. Especially if your attorney is an alcoholic who lost his license because of you. Of course if Trump refused to pay on the grounds that Giuliani's legal services were worthless, then I would understand that. ;D
Or maybe it is all that election fraud evidence he claimed to have. :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D
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Rudy Giuliani ally, pardoned by Trump, gives trove of papers to special counsel
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Rudy+Giuliani+ally%2C+pardoned+by+Trump%2C+gives+trove+of+papers+to+special+counsel
The former New York police commissioner Bernie Kerik, a leading Trump ally who worked with Rudy Giuliani on attempts to overturn the 2020 election, has given the special counsel Jack Smith thousands of documents, Kerik’s lawyer said on Monday.
“I have shared all of these documents, approximately 600MB, mostly pdfs, with the special counsel and look forward to sitting down with them in about two weeks to discuss,” Timothy Parlatore told CNN.
The news was another blow to Donald Trump, who last week caused a sensation when he said Smith had in a letter told him he was a target in the investigation, likely to face criminal charges. Smith and his team have been investigating the former president’s role in the events of the January 6 insurrection.
In early 2020, Trump pardoned Kerik for crimes including tax fraud and lying to investigators, for which Kerik had been sentenced to four years in jail.
Later that year, Kerik worked with Giuliani on attempts to overturn Joe Biden’s victory, a push which culminated in the failed but deadly January 6 attack on Congress.
Kerik long sought to withhold documents from investigators, citing privilege issues. But on Monday, Parlatore said Trump’s 2024 campaign had reviewed the documents and cleared them for release to Smith.
Kerik is set to be interviewed by the special counsel’s office in August.
Trump already faces 71 criminal charges: 34 in New York, over hush money payments to the porn star Stormy Daniels, and 37 in the federal investigation of Trump’s retention of classified records, an investigation also run by Smith.
The former president was also ordered to pay around $5m to the writer E Jean Carroll, after being found liable for sexual abuse and defamation. He faces multiple investigations of his business affairs.
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Rudy Poo having to fess up. I guess the truth isn't the truth isn't exactly true at all.
I would have thought with all the people on here that love their heroes to be adulterous cheating liars with low approval ratings and endless false self promotion and multiple investigations/indictments on them or coming soon there would be more posts supporting Rudy on here. I guess the orange spray tan is the magic ingredient.
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Giuliani concedes he made defamatory statements about Georgia election workers
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani+concedes+he+made+defamatory+statements+about+Georgia+election+workers
Rudy Giuliani concedes he made defamatory statements about Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss in an effort to resolve their lawsuit against him and to satisfy a judge who has considered sanctioning him.
The late-night Tuesday filing from Giuliani says he doesn’t contest Moss and Freeman’s accusations that he smeared them after the 2020 election. Yet the filing says he still wants to be able to argue that his statements about voter fraud in Georgia in the 2020 election were protected speech. Notably, he also refuses to concede that his statements caused damages to Moss or Freeman.
CNN has reached out to a lawyer for Freeman and Moss.
The new filing doesn’t immediately resolve the case against Giuliani, which had taken a thorny turn for the former prosecutor and New York City mayor after a judge cautioned him earlier this month that he could lose the lawsuit or face severe sanctions for not gathering his own records in a thorough way and turning them over to Moss and Freeman’s team as they move through the case.
The federal judge, Beryl A. Howell of the DC District Court, must still look at Giuliani’s filings from Tuesday, which also try to provide explanations for why he didn’t search his records more thoroughly.
It’s also not clear how criminal prosecutors from the Justice Department’s special counsel’s office, who have interviewed Giuliani, will perceive the unusual move Giuliani is making in the lawsuit.
His phrasing in his court filing makes clear Giuliani is attempting to have his concessions only apply to the lawsuit, in an attempt to avoid consequences from the judge for avoiding turning over documents.
In his court filing, Giuliani specifically said he “does not contest” that assertions he made about the women – whom he accused of being part of a vote-manipulation scheme in Georgia – “were false.”
“Defendant Giuliani concedes solely for the purposes of this litigation … that Defendant Giuliani made the statements of and concerning plaintiffs,” his filing said. “He does not dispute for the purposes of this litigation, that the statements carry meaning that is defamatory per se.”
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Won't save whoever else he is singing about either. It's becoming clear he just doesn't want to produce the email and texts that he has been withholding all this time. Wonder why? ???
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Legal experts: Giuliani just made a “desperate, last-second” concession — but it won’t save him
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Legal+experts%3A+Giuliani+just+made+a+%E2%80%9Cdesperate%2C+last-second%E2%80%9D+concession+%E2%80%94+but+it+won%E2%80%99t+save+him
Former Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani on Tuesday conceded the statements he made about two Georgia election workers who were forced from their home by death threats from the former president's supporters were false.
Giuliani in a two-page late-night court filing said he "does not contest" that his statements about Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss were "false" and "carry meaning that is defamatory."
The statement conceded that his statements meet the "factual elements of liability" for Moss and Freeman's claims that his comments amounted to "intentional infliction of emotional distress."
But Giuliani is not giving up in the defamation lawsuit from the two election workers, his adviser Ted Goodman told Politico, arguing that it was just a way to move past the fact-gathering stage of the lawsuit and into the legal phase, where he can try to dismiss the suit.
"Mayor Rudy Giuliani did not acknowledge that the statements were false but did not contest it in order to move on to the portion of the case that will permit a motion to dismiss," Goodman said. "This is a legal issue, not a factual issue. Those out to smear the mayor are ignoring the fact that this stipulation is designed to get to the legal issues of the case."
But the report noted that it is a "significant acknowledgment" from the former president's lawyer, who spent months claiming that Moss and Freeman were seen on video improperly pulling ballots from a suitcase and claiming it was proof of Trump's widely debunked election fraud conspiracy theories.
Moss and Freeman testified to the House Jan. 6 committee that they faced numerous threats and were forced to flee their home.
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Won't save whoever else he is singing about either. It's becoming clear he just doesn't want to produce the email and texts that he has been withholding all this time. Wonder why? ???
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Legal experts: Giuliani just made a “desperate, last-second” concession — but it won’t save him
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Legal+experts%3A+Giuliani+just+made+a+%E2%80%9Cdesperate%2C+last-second%E2%80%9D+concession+%E2%80%94+but+it+won%E2%80%99t+save+him
Former Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani on Tuesday conceded the statements he made about two Georgia election workers who were forced from their home by death threats from the former president's supporters were false.
Giuliani in a two-page late-night court filing said he "does not contest" that his statements about Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss were "false" and "carry meaning that is defamatory."
The statement conceded that his statements meet the "factual elements of liability" for Moss and Freeman's claims that his comments amounted to "intentional infliction of emotional distress."
But Giuliani is not giving up in the defamation lawsuit from the two election workers, his adviser Ted Goodman told Politico, arguing that it was just a way to move past the fact-gathering stage of the lawsuit and into the legal phase, where he can try to dismiss the suit.
"Mayor Rudy Giuliani did not acknowledge that the statements were false but did not contest it in order to move on to the portion of the case that will permit a motion to dismiss," Goodman said. "This is a legal issue, not a factual issue. Those out to smear the mayor are ignoring the fact that this stipulation is designed to get to the legal issues of the case."
But the report noted that it is a "significant acknowledgment" from the former president's lawyer, who spent months claiming that Moss and Freeman were seen on video improperly pulling ballots from a suitcase and claiming it was proof of Trump's widely debunked election fraud conspiracy theories.
Moss and Freeman testified to the House Jan. 6 committee that they faced numerous threats and were forced to flee their home.
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I wouldn't read too much into this. I often will not contest my wife's claim that I was the one that left the front door unlocked in order to move on to the portion where she cooks dinner.
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I wouldn't read too much into this. I often will not contest my wife's claim that I was the one that left the front door unlocked in order to move on to the portion where she cooks dinner.
It's just another nail for the same coffin.
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Why is he waiting until now to come clean and confess what everyone already knew back when he said it? Is he trying to get ahead of his testimony against Trumpy when he was interviewed last week?
Some of you on here were using his claims as "evidence" (hahahaha) that the election was stolen. Now what? What's your excuse now?
Republican Politicians and Fox News: We lied to you.
Republican People: No you didn't.
Republican Politicians and Fox News: Yes we did! Several times. Yes we did in fact lie.
Republican People: It doesn't matter, our God is a Republican. We are the moral people who follow the Bible.
Republican Politicians and Fox News: We lied!
Republican People: WE DON'T CARE!!!
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Giuliani Admits His Oft-Told Tale of Georgia Election Fraud Was Not True
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani+Admits+His+Oft-Told+Tale+of+Georgia+Election+Fraud+Was+Not+True
Late Friday night, a federal judge in Florida tossed a lawsuit in which former President Donald Trump argued that CNN had defamed him by labeling his stolen-election fantasy "the Big Lie." A few days earlier in a different defamation case, Rudy Giuliani, who as Trump's lawyer helped propagate the claim that systematic fraud delivered the White House to Joe Biden, belatedly admitted that he had falsely and repeatedly accused two Georgia election workers of participating in that imaginary conspiracy.
Whatever you think of the notion that people have a right to protect their reputations in court, the conjunction of those two developments starkly illustrates the difference between use and abuse of defamation law as it currently stands. Trump has a long, astonishingly petty history of filing (or threatening to file) frivolous defamation claims against critics who irk him, and his CNN lawsuit was dismissed for an entirely predictable reason: He failed to allege that the channel had published verifiably false statements of fact about him. In the lawsuit against Giuliani, by contrast, Ruby Freeman and Wandrea Moss (who are mother and daughter) plausibly allege that he defamed them by publicly claiming they had deliberately introduced and processed thousands of phony Biden ballots.
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President Pedo Pete is so proud of these loyal
Supporters of everything Paedophile
Yes it’s Lurking for Boys & it’s Daisy chain
Girlfriend Available arse Abe
In 1,2,3 post
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Hahaha I have driven this moron into Loco posting style territory. Or should I say Gov and the gay muslim posting style. ;) Seeing how they can't contain their pedo obsessions.
You know if I really wanted to see feminine men, I only have to look at your photos. Keep that in mind shortcake.
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Why is he waiting until now to come clean and confess what everyone already knew back when he said it? Is he trying to get ahead of his testimony against Trumpy when he was interviewed last week?
Some of you on here were using his claims as "evidence" (hahahaha) that the election was stolen. Now what? What's your excuse now?
Republican Politicians and Fox News: We lied to you.
Republican People: No you didn't.
Republican Politicians and Fox News: Yes we did! Several times. Yes we did in fact lie.
Republican People: It doesn't matter, our God is a Republican. We are the moral people who follow the Bible.
Republican Politicians and Fox News: We lied!
Republican People: WE DON'T CARE!!!
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Giuliani Admits His Oft-Told Tale of Georgia Election Fraud Was Not True
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani+Admits+His+Oft-Told+Tale+of+Georgia+Election+Fraud+Was+Not+True
Late Friday night, a federal judge in Florida tossed a lawsuit in which former President Donald Trump argued that CNN had defamed him by labeling his stolen-election fantasy "the Big Lie." A few days earlier in a different defamation case, Rudy Giuliani, who as Trump's lawyer helped propagate the claim that systematic fraud delivered the White House to Joe Biden, belatedly admitted that he had falsely and repeatedly accused two Georgia election workers of participating in that imaginary conspiracy.
Whatever you think of the notion that people have a right to protect their reputations in court, the conjunction of those two developments starkly illustrates the difference between use and abuse of defamation law as it currently stands. Trump has a long, astonishingly petty history of filing (or threatening to file) frivolous defamation claims against critics who irk him, and his CNN lawsuit was dismissed for an entirely predictable reason: He failed to allege that the channel had published verifiably false statements of fact about him. In the lawsuit against Giuliani, by contrast, Ruby Freeman and Wandrea Moss (who are mother and daughter) plausibly allege that he defamed them by publicly claiming they had deliberately introduced and processed thousands of phony Biden ballots.
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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-and-fury-smart-genius-obama-774169
Just a suggestion... Trump recently received praise from Newt Gingrich for speaking at a 3rd 4th and 5th grade level. The link above supports that statement. The quote below proves it was said.
"One of Trump’s great advantages is he talks at a level where third, fourth and fifth grade educations can say, ‘Oh yeah, I get that. I understand it.’” Gingrich told host Laura Ingraham on her Fox News show.
Now I know an integral part of communication is knowing your audience and speaking to them on their level.. After all, getting the message out clearly is the important part of the equation.
Your last paragraph is just likely to evoke emojis, perhaps a meme, or the usual "Biden is a Pedo" response.. but you have to remember your audience.
Maybe dumb it down a bit going forward?
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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-and-fury-smart-genius-obama-774169
Just a suggestion... Trump recently received praise from Newt Gingrich for speaking at a 3rd 4th and 5th grade level. The link above supports that statement. The quote below proves it was said.
"One of Trump’s great advantages is he talks at a level where third, fourth and fifth grade educations can say, ‘Oh yeah, I get that. I understand it.’” Gingrich told host Laura Ingraham on her Fox News show.
Now I know an integral part of communication is knowing your audience and speaking to them on their level.. After all, getting the message out clearly is the important part of the equation.
Your last paragraph is just likely to evoke emojis, perhaps a meme, or the usual "Biden is a Pedo" response.. but you have to remember your audience.
Maybe dumb it down a bit going forward?
A true life, honest to God conspiracy theory would be that Trumpy is actually doing just that on purpose himself seeing the audience he is speaking to at rallies and who keep supporting him and living in the TDfS realm.
But naww.... he ain't that smart of a Bubba.
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A true life, honest to God conspiracy theory would be that Trumpy is actually doing just that on purpose himself seeing the audience he is speaking to at rallies and who keep supporting him and living in the TDfS realm.
But naww.... he ain't that smart of a Bubba.
Yeah, kind of like the SNL skit where Ronald Reagan is portrayed as a bumbling idiot and as soon as all the reporters leave the room, he starts barking commands.. but the reality is, we have decades of evidence of Trumps linguistic abilities.
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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-and-fury-smart-genius-obama-774169
Just a suggestion... Trump recently received praise from Newt Gingrich for speaking at a 3rd 4th and 5th grade level. The link above supports that statement. The quote below proves it was said.
"One of Trump’s great advantages is he talks at a level where third, fourth and fifth grade educations can say, ‘Oh yeah, I get that. I understand it.’” Gingrich told host Laura Ingraham on her Fox News show.
Now I know an integral part of communication is knowing your audience and speaking to them on their level.. After all, getting the message out clearly is the important part of the equation.
Your last paragraph is just likely to evoke emojis, perhaps a meme, or the usual "Biden is a Pedo" response.. but you have to remember your audience.
Maybe dumb it down a bit going forward?
Biden's puppet masters clearly know his audience very well & takes them all for being as Demented & stupid as he is.
His audience believe he's a & can do no wrong & believe he's never done any wrong.
Nope Just Russia & Donald do all the bad things.
As for dumbing down, They've dumbed it down about as far as it can go.
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I wonder what other countries like China are doing as far as meddling in
American & other coutries politics - Maybe they're good guys & are trying to help.
They probably think Donald & Russia are to blame for everything- They could soon
Declare themselves Democrats 🤣 👍🏻
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^^ it's funny seeing a pathetic old man with 3rd grade language skills and a penchant for lying about everything he can, talk about other's being dumb. It's projecting at it's finest.
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^^ it's funny seeing a pathetic old man with 3rd grade language skills and a penchant for lying about everything he can, talk about other's being dumb. It's projecting at it's finest.
pretty rich coming from a freak now referred to as Pedo Pete.
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pretty rich coming from a freak now referred to as Pedo Pete.
It's afflicted with Leftist Libturd & AIDS - completely Fucked up is Pedo Pete the Fag.got
The Pavlov's is well instilled in it WOOF WOOF ;D ;D ;D
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Two foreign c unts with gay and pedo fantasies. They are even dumber than Trumpy supporters.
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Well, did anyone else catch that absolute meltdown Rudy just did? :D
Not to be confused with the absolute unhinged one he did yesterday on Newsmax. Which begs the questions.... what did he think was going to happen and why would he spend all those hours singing like a lark? What an idiot. He pretty much sealed his own fate in those meetings and he knows it. Even this deep in shit himself, he is trying to kiss ass. I guess he really thinks Trumpy is going to write a check for the money he is owed. ::)
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Rudy Giuliani, the likely 'Co-Conspirator 1' in Trump's latest indictment, took to Twitter for a rollicking 85-minute rant about the case — then got brutally roasted for it
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Rudy+Giuliani%2C+the+likely+%27Co-Conspirator+1%27+in+Trump%27s+latest+indictment%2C+took+to+Twitter+for+a+rollicking+85-minute+rant+about+the+case+%E2%80%94+then+got+brutally+roasted+for+it
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Rudy just can't stop. LOL The truth isn't the truth and those aren't your tits.
Foul comments made by Giuliani revealed in audio transcripts back accuser's claims
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Foul+comments+made+by+Giuliani+revealed+in+audio+transcripts+back+accuser%27s+claims
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Rudy just can't stop. LOL The truth isn't the truth and those aren't your tits.
Foul comments made by Giuliani revealed in audio transcripts back accuser's claims
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Foul+comments+made+by+Giuliani+revealed+in+audio+transcripts+back+accuser%27s+claims
Talk about a creep, Giuliani defines what it means to be a creep. It is not surprising that women aren't interested in him.
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Talk about a creep, Giuliani defines what it means to be a creep. It is not surprising that women aren't interested in him.
Ghouliani is really going to have a melting hair day when the trial starts and he has to take the stand. Watch him become the #2 star witness for the prosecution. With Trumpy being #1 as you know he is going to sink his own ship.
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Ghouliani is really going to have a melting hair day when the trial starts and he has to take the stand. Watch him become the #2 star witness for the prosecution. With Trumpy being #1 as you know he is going to sink his own ship.
Do you think I should send Giuliani some 'Just for Men' hair coloring. I recently started using this product to cover/hide my white mustache and gradually turning with eyebrows. Note: I don't think it will work on my bald head. LOL. He does go dark brown, and my color choice is dark blond. But I am willing to testify (before a Congressional committee), that it doesn't run when I sweat.
P.S. I got the idea for this from the man himself, Donald Trump. Oddly, it doesn't ever look orange on me like it does on him at times. Maybe he got a bad batch of hair color, or somebody peed on his head. Damn, where was the secret service when that happened. Aren't they supposed to protect him from such indignities?
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Oh Rudy-Poo.... you just can't win can you? The truth is just the truth. Despite what you think.
How is he going to pay these bills? He can't even pay his phone bill. Maybe Trumpy is really going to pay him for the work he did now. :D
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Judge questions Giuliani over not forfeiting lawsuit after conceding false 2020 election statements
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Judge+questions+Giuliani+over+not+forfeiting+lawsuit+after+conceding+false+2020+election+statements
A federal judge on Friday demanded an explanation from Rudy Giuliani as to why he conceded in court that he made false and defamatory statements about two Georgia election workers after the 2020 election but hasn’t forfeited their lawsuit against him.
It’s the latest legal difficulty that Giuliani has faced related to his spreading of disinformation on former President Donald Trump’s behalf – and the latest instance of a federal judge considering severe sanctions for Giuliani over the Georgia defamation case.
A loss in the case could have significant implications for Giuliani, especially financially.
In a court filing last month, Giuliani acknowledged that he had made defamatory statements about the election workers, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, though he stopped short of conceding that his statements caused damages to the pair. Giuliani also said in the July filing that he still wanted to argue that his statements about voter fraud in Georgia were protected by free speech.
Giuliani has until Tuesday afternoon to either forfeit the lawsuit, conceding he is liable and opening himself up to pay the ballot-counters’ damages, or give Judge Beryl Howell more explanation and appear before her for a hearing in mid-August.
Following Giuliani’s concessions, Howell ordered him to pay more of Moss and Freeman’s legal fees after previously ordering him to pay them $90,000.
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Rudy = the gift that keeps on giving.
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Giuliani claims ‘dog ate my homework’ in Smartmatic case, lawyers say
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani+claims+%E2%80%98dog+ate+my+homework%E2%80%99+in+Smartmatic+case%2C+lawyers+say
A voting machine company behind a $2.7bn defamation lawsuit over lies about the 2020 election said Rudy Giuliani was using excuses like “the dog ate my homework” to avoid the discovery process.
“‘The dog ate my homework.’ ‘I have to wash my hair.’ ‘I can’t go out, I’m sick.’ Since the dawn of time, people have made up excuses to avoid doing things they do not want to do,” lawyers for Smartmartic wrote.
Related: Bigoted, antisemitic, gross: Rudy Giuliani finds an even lower low | Arwa Mahdawi
“This is exactly what Giuliani has done here.”
The former New York mayor turned personal attorney to Donald Trump, 79, is named alongside Fox News in the lawsuit, which follows a defamation suit Fox News settled for $787.5m with Dominion Voting Systems.
Giuliani led Trump’s efforts to overturn election results in key states, claiming widespread fraud in favour of Joe Biden. There was no widespread electoral fraud in the 2020 election, which Biden won by more than 7m ballots and conclusively in the electoral college.
Giuliani’s work for Trump has landed him in extensive legal jeopardy. One of six unnamed co-conspirators in the four-count indictment filed against Trump by the special counsel Jack Smith last week, he could face charges in Fulton county, Georgia.
He has also been sued for defamation by Shaye Moss and Ruby Freeman, two Georgia elections workers he claimed were involved in fraud and whose attorneys now say he is not co-operating with the discovery process. Giuliani has admitted making false statements about the two women.
Under scrutiny from law licensing bodies, the former mayor is also being sued for $10m by Noelle Dunphy, a former employee who alleges “abuses of power, wide-ranging sexual assault and harassment, wage theft and other misconduct”.
In the Smartmatic case, in Monday court filings first reported by CNN, lawyers expressed frustration over trying to get Giuliani to turn over relevant records.
They said: “For months, Giuliani has made up excuses to get out of his discovery obligations … To date, Giuliani has not produced a single non-public document responsive to the discovery requests Smartmatic issued 14 months ago.”
The company asked a New York judge to force Giuliani to turn over materials.
In Washington the same day, a close Giuliani ally, the former New York police commissioner Bernie Kerik, met prosecutors from Smith’s team.
An attorney for Kerik told reporters the meeting lasted around five hours, and focused on Giuliani’s attempts to overturn the 2020 election.
Last month, Kerik turned over thousands of documents to the special counsel.
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You might want to save some of that money that the judge is going to award Smartmatic. He's going to be dressing in drag to earn money for Ramen soup noodles soon. Disgraced lawyer for a disgraced former POTUS. How fitting.
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Rudy Giuliani selling $6.5m NYC apartment as legal woes pile up
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Rudy+Giuliani+selling+%246.5m+NYC+apartment+as+legal+woes+pile+up
Rudy Giuliani, the ex-mayor of New York City and one-time lawyer for former President Donald Trump, has listed his Upper East Side apartment for $6.5m amid legal challenges.
Property records and court documents confirm his address is the same listed by Sotheby’s Realty. While the listing says the building “is distinctive for its magnificent gothic-inspired terra cotta and brick façade” the three-bedroom, three-bathroom apartment is also distinctive for being raided by the FBI in April 2021 over Mr Giuliani’s alleged dealings with Ukraine.
This apartment appears to be the same one alluded to in the lawsuit brought by Noelle Dunphy, Mr Giuliani’s former assistant. “Giuliani insisted that Ms. Dunphy stay in a guest suite in his Upper East Side apartment,” the complaint states, before describing the alleged assault.
The apartment was put up for sale just days after Mr Giuliani’s ex-client and ally, Mr Trump, was indicted for the third time.
Mr Giuliani himself is facing a number of legal woes. A lawyer for the 79-year-old last week acknowledged to the New York Times that his client appeared to be the person identified as “Co-Conspirator 1” in the federal indictment accusing Mr Trump of conspiring to overturn the 2020 election in his favour.
Robert Costello, Mr Giuliani’s attorney, said the indictment “eviscerates the First Amendment,” and denounced the filing as “election interference.”
In his own words, Mr Giuliani said Special Counsel Jack Smith, who handed down the indictment, should be indicted. “The people lying are the people bringing this… They should be indicted for conspiracy against rights,” the former mayor said on Newsmax.
His former assistant, Noelle Dunphy, filed a lawsuit in May against him for sexual assault, harassment, wage theft, and other claims. In the lawsuit, Ms Dunphy claimed that her former boss “made clear that satisfying his sexual demands – which came virtually anytime, anywhere – was an absolute requirement of her employment.”
Bombshell tapes and transcripts of their conversations have been revealed in recent weeks. In one such tape, the man once called “America’s Mayor” allegedly said, “Come here, big t*ts. Your t*ts belong to me. Give them to me. I want to claim my t*ts.”
Mr Giuliani also faces a defamation lawsuit in Georgia, in which he seemed to admit that he made statements that “carry meaning that is defamatory per se” about two of the state’s election workers after the 2020 election. A judge has asked him to clarify “precisely” what he meant, as the former mayor made “seemingly incongruous and certainly puzzling caveats.”
Additionally, Dominion sued Mr Giuliani for defamation in January 2021, claiming he had made “defamatory falsehoods” in order to “promote a false preconceived narrative about the 2020 election.” The company is seeking $1.3bn in damages.
The Independent has reached out to a lawyer for Mr Giuliani.
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Oh Rudy-Poo.... this just doesn't look good at all for you.
MAGA = Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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Rudy Giuliani’s Mounting Legal Trouble: Here Are All The Issues Trump Attorney Faces
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Rudy+Giuliani%E2%80%99s+Mounting+Legal+Trouble%3A+Here+Are+All+The+Issues+Trump+Attorney+Faces
The Justice Department’s identification of Rudy Giuliani as an uncharged alleged co-conspirator in the second indictment against former President Donald Trump was among a string of legal headaches Giuliani faced last week, as the far-right lawyer’s legal issues intensified ahead of a possible indictment in Georgia.
DOJ Indictment: Giuliani is believed to be “co-conspirator 1” in the indictment charging Trump for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, his attorney has acknowledged, after the document described an “attorney who was willing to spread knowingly false claims and pursue strategies that the Defendant's 2020 re-election campaign attorneys would not.”
Though the indictment alleges Giuliani was involved with Trump’s allegedly unlawful conspiracy to overturn the election results, he has not been charged in the investigation—though special counsel Jack Smith noted the DOJ’s investigation is still ongoing, so it’s not ruled out that he could be charged in the future.
Georgia Defamation Case: Giuliani is being sued for defamation by two Georgia election workers who he falsely tied to an unfounded conspiracy theory about voter fraud in 2020, which has led to a protracted legal battle as the election workers have asked the court to sanction Giuliani for not turning over evidence, prompting him to concede in a July court filing that the claims he made were “false.”
Giuliani’s filing prompted an order from the judge last week asking him to clarify why he conceded his claims were false but still won’t forfeit the lawsuit entirely by agreeing he defamed the election workers—as the court filing still opposes the lawsuit overall—describing his statements in the filing as “seemingly incongruous and certainly puzzling.”
Noelle Dunphy: Giuliani is facing a $10 million lawsuit brought by former associate Noelle Dunphy, who accused the attorney of a range of misconduct including sexual assault and harassment, with audio transcripts released last week as part of the case capturing Giuliani allegedly making sexually explicit comments, along with disparaging comments about Jewish men and actor Matt Damon, which included making a homophobic slur.
Dominion and Smartmatic: Giuliani has also been sued by voting machine companies Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic for spreading false election fraud claims involving their machines, and though a court initially dismissed some of the allegations against Giuliani in the Smartmatic case, an appeals court reinstated them in February.
Staten Island Lawsuit: Giuliani was sued in May for false arrest by Daniel Gill, who slapped the attorney on the back and said, “What’s up, scumbag?” at a grocery store, and was charged with third-degree assault after Giuliani claimed Gill hit him.
Gill argues video footage of the incident shows he only “tapped” Giuliani “to get his attention,” and he was “put through the system” at Giuliani’s urging and the attorney conspired with police to “deprive [Gill] of his liberty.”
Disbarment: Giuliani has had his law license suspended in New York and Washington, D.C., due to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, and proceedings are ongoing over whether he’ll be fully disbarred—the D.C. disciplinary panel has recommended his disbarment, but Giuliani intends to appeal the decision.
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Holy fucking hell, the irony of Rudy being charged with RICO. Would be amazing karma for that decrepit piece of shit to die in prison because of the RICO act.
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Holy fucking hell, the irony of Rudy being charged with RICO. Would be amazing karma for that decrepit piece of shit to die in prison because of the RICO act.
Trumpy getting charged under the very law he increased penalties for in mishandling docs and Rudy charged under RICO.
You can’t tell me that God doesn’t have a sense of humor. LOL
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Trumpy getting charged under the very law he increased penalties for in mishandling docs and Rudy charged under RICO.
You can’t tell me that God doesn’t have a sense of humor. LOL
Pedo Pete and his own lame gimmick talking amongst themselves like children - you are a strange sick person.
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Pedo Pete and his own lame gimmick talking amongst themselves like children - you are a strange sick person.
Creepy how obsessed you are with children and pedophiles. Cry for help?
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Can't you Trumpturds throw a little $$$ Rudy's way? You have been parroting his claims for 2.5 years now. If you share in his delusions and lies, you might as well share in his bills. He's so desperate at this point he is probably looking for a paying role in the next Borat movie.
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Rudy Giuliani Is Bleeding Cash Thanks to His Defense of Trump
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Rudy+Giuliani+Is+Bleeding+Cash+Thanks+to+His+Defense+of+Trump
The lasting effects of his defense of Donald Trumps “Big Lie” has Rudy Giuliani burning through cash. The former New York City mayor is facing hundreds of thousands of dollars in outstanding legal bills, sanctions, and now, new criminal charges in Georgia. He faces a slew of defamation cases from voting technology company Smartmatic, Dominion Voting Systems, and two Georgia poll workers—who he has yet to pay nearly $90,000 to in sanctions, plus another $44,000 in legal fees. Giuliani is also more than $320,000 behind in payments to document-hosting company Trustpoint.One, which he used to upload electronic records after the FBI seized his cell phones in 2021. He admitted in a sworn statement from May that “I do not have the funds to pay this amount at this time” and has received some help from Trump’s PAC—$400,000, to be exact. In a Monday court filing, Giuliani revealed he’s effectively out of cash. His lawyers wrote that “producing a detailed financial report is only meant to embarrass Mr. Giuliani and draw attention to his misfortunes.” Earlier this month, Giuliani put his Manhattan apartment up for sale for $6.5 million.
While he has declined in court to provide details of his financial state, his lawyers wrote this week that “producing a detailed financial report is only meant to embarrass Mr. Giuliani and draw attention to his misfortunes.”
Giuliani’s financial situation is likely to become even more difficult to navigate in the coming days. He faces potentially perilous court decisions against him in two 2020 election defamation lawsuits as early as this week.
While Giuliani’s attorneys’ fees have not been paid directly by Trump’s political action committee, Trump’s PAC paid more than $300,000 in May to a company handling Giuliani’s archived records for evidence preservation in court cases, according to federal campaign finance records and court filings.
“He is having financial difficulties,” Giuliani’s lawyers said in a filing this month in a civil defamation case brought by two Georgia election workers against him. “Giuliani needs more time to pay the attorneys’ fees and would like the opportunity to seek an extension from the Court.”
Giuliani is facing disbarment proceedings in DC and New York. His law license is already suspended – a situation his attorneys say leaves him further hampered from making money. And he is facing a personal lawsuit from an ex-employee filed in May, which he is contesting.
The criminal charges that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis brought against Trump, Giuliani and 17 others will undoubtedly add to the former mayor’s legal bills.
That prosecution is separate from the federal election subversion investigation that looms over Giuliani. He is “Co-conspirator 1” in special counsel Jack Smith’s indictment of Trump related to efforts to overturn the 2020 election. While he has not been indicted, prosecutors continue to investigate, including speaking with Giuliani’s ally, Bernie Kerik, about what Giuliani did to prove that Trump actually won the election, among other things, Kerik’s attorney told CNN.
While all of the legal peril Giuliani now faces revolves around his work for Trump questioning the election’s result, a primary consequence he’d faced prior to Monday’s criminal indictment in Georgia had come from his inability to respond fully to 2020 election-related lawsuits.
When the FBI seized several of his cell phones in April 2021 in a now-closed investigation, much of Giuliani’s electronic records were held on a database operated by a company called Trustpoint.One. But they were archived, and running searches on files the company held for more recent litigation isn’t cheap. Even hosting his records with the company costs $20,000 a month, according to a recent court filing.
Giuliani wanted to search the records so he could respond in each of the election-related lawsuits, according to court filings.
By May, Giuliani was more than $320,000 behind in payments to the document hosting company, according to a sworn statement he made in court. “I do not have the funds to pay this amount at this time,” he wrote.
He negotiated for a year with what his lawyers say were “third-party funding sources” for help in paying his legal bills, and awaited funding for six months for help with the Trustpoint bill, according to Giuliani’s filing this week in the Smartmatic case.
Trump’s former attorney appears to have had some reprieve from the debts in May, plus an additional $20,000 cover for additional data searches, according to court filings, thanks to the former president’s political action committee. The PAC is not paying Giluiani’s legal fees – unlike many other Trump allies – but it has paid more than $400,000 to Trustpoint this year, with an unusually large sum going to the company in late May for $340,000, according to federal campaign filings.
Days after that distribution, Giuliani said in one of the lawsuits he faces that he “obtained funding to pay the arrearage” and “cured” his outstanding bill with Trustpoint. He also discussed receiving that “donation” in his latest court filing, saying he thought it would help cover for the response he needed to make in the Smartmatic case.
But the $340,000 payment isn’t enough to cover more searches, Trustpoint “will not extend any further credit” to him, and his bill to keep his data held by the company will keep growing by the month, his court filings say.
“This is not merely an excuse that Giuliani trudges out when required to produce documents,” his latest filing said.
Trustpoint executives didn’t respond to requests for comment.
Defamation lawsuits piling up
Giuliani is the defendant in several defamation lawsuits for his statements after the 2020 election.
A federal judge in Washington ordered him to pay a portion of the legal bills of Georgia election workers Shaye Moss and Ruby Freeman to cover what they had spent on attorneys litigating evidence-gathering disputes in the case, by July 25. He still hasn’t paid that $89,000, according to court records.
Two weeks later, Giuliani backed down from contesting Moss and Freeman’s claims that he made false statements about them in 2020, saying he wanted to “avoid unnecessary expenses in litigating.”
Moss and Freeman are still trying to win the lawsuit, and a judge is considering ruling ultimately in their favor. But in the meantime, they have asked the judge to order Giuliani to pay another $44,000 of their legal fees stemming from their efforts to force him to hand over certain evidence in the case.
That’s only one lawsuit. Smartmatic, in its defamation case against Giuliani that prompted his growing data-hosting bill, asked a judge to sanction Giuliani – including by ordering him to reimburse the company’s legal fees – for failing to provide the company his records.
Dominion Voting Systems, which is also suing Giuliani for defamation, is seeking documents for their case but has not pressed the issue of sanctions before a judge at this time. Giuliani also faces a fourth defamation lawsuit related to the election from an executive at Dominion.
Smartmatic pointed to the Trump PAC’s payments to Trustpoint as reason that Giuliani should be able to comply with its demands that he search his records and provide the company evidence as it builds its case, because it’s now apparent others might pay for Giuliani’s growing expenses.
But the former mayor said that’s not the case in his court filings on Monday.
Giuliani “cannot afford to pay at this point” another $15,000 to $23,000 for more searches for documents in the case, his attorneys wrote.
The New York state judge overseeing Smartmatic’s defamation case has a hearing set for Wednesday.
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Creepy how obsessed you are with children and pedophiles. Cry for help?
Well you see his user name. He makes no mistake of being a gay muslim. Muhummad was a pedophile himself. What do you think his followers are?
Even creepier is how he has multiple accounts dedicated to his pedo obsessions. Too much for one account to contain.
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Ain't too proud to beg apparently. :D The fact he is asking Trump - who hasn't paid him the money he is owed from the past years yet - is really funny. And stupid. Trumpy promises to pay legal fees, promises to help MAGA families of those jailed, promises to pay for lunch for rally followers . Trumpy has yet to cough up a single dime.
"As you see, I'm very nervous and sweating and upset, whether I'm going to be indicted. It does trouble me greatly because I value my reputation beyond anything," Giuliani said on his show. hahahaha are you kidding? That reputation - sketchy at best 20 years ago - is one of lies, con jobs, crimes, sexual harassment, and overt display of stupidity. This dude is reaching Qoach-47 levels of delusions.
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Rudy Giuliani made the hike all the way down to Mar-a-Lago to personally beg Trump to help pay off some of his legal bills, CNN reports
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Rudy+Giuliani+made+the+hike+all+the+way+down+to+Mar-a-Lago+to+personally+beg+Trump+to+help+pay+off+some+of+his+legal+bills%2C+CNN+reports
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York has personally sought former President Donald Trump's help with paying his legal bills, CNN reported in a story published Thursday.
Citing several unnamed sources, CNN reported that Giuliani traveled to Mar-a-Lago in recent months along with his lawyer Robert Costello, with the primary purpose of getting Trump to pitch in with some cash.
One of the sources told CNN that the pair believed they could better explain to Trump at a physical meeting why he needed to help with Giuliani's legal bills.
Giuliani may not have gotten the answer he wanted. A source told CNN that while Trump said he would help with the bills, he did not commit to any timeline or pledge a specific amount.
On Monday, Giuliani was one of 19 defendants — including Trump — who was charged in connection to efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia. Giuliani was indicted on multiple criminal charges, including racketeering.
During Monday's episode of Giuliani's livestream show, "America's Mayor Live," Giuliani acknowledged that he wasn't feeling great about getting charged.
"As you see, I'm very nervous and sweating and upset, whether I'm going to be indicted. It does trouble me greatly because I value my reputation beyond anything," Giuliani said on his show.
"I find that what they've done here is reprehensible. And I feel it's reprehensible with regard to me, my family, my career, and what I've done in my life," he added.
Representatives for Giuliani and Trump did not immediately respond to requests for comment sent outside regular business hours.
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Rico Rudy
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Mobsters ‘thrilled’ to see Rudy Giuliani hit with RICO charges he used to jail mafia bosses
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Mobsters+%E2%80%98thrilled%E2%80%99+to+see+Rudy+Giuliani+hit+with+RICO+charges+he+used+to+jail+mafia+bosses
Defense lawyers who have represented the biggest names in gangland say their clients love that Rudy Giuliani, who used the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act to jail mafia leaders, himself stands charged with racketeering.
“All of my clients who had the misfortune of being prosecuted by him are laughing now,” Jeffrey Lichtman, who successfully handled the 2004-2006 defense of John “Junior” Gotti told The Messenger. “As am I.”
Gotti’s famous father — dogged by Giuliani’s office for years —was imprisoned in 1992 after being found guilty on criminal counts including racketeering.
“I’m thrilled that Rudy will now experience what it feels like to be on the wrong end of a RICO prosecution,” Lichtman said.
Before becoming New York City’s 107th mayor in 1994, Giuliani made his name as a fearless prosecutor who went after the mob by tying seemingly untouchable kingpins to the illegal activities of criminal enterprises they oversaw. On Monday, Georgia prosecutors charged Giuliani with being part of a criminal organization that sought to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election his former boss, Donald Trump, lost by more than 7 million votes.
Lichtman called RICO charges against Giuliani “just” and characterized the “horribly dishonest” defendant as a man “the wheel of karma is about to crush.”
Mob attorney Murray Richman’s resume includes the defense of late Lucchese family boss Carmine “Mr. Gribbs” Tramunti and Bonnano family capo Dominick “Big Trin” Trinchera. He told The Messenger that “several" of his former clients are also “f---ing thrilled” to see Giuliani facing RICO charges.
“Half of these guys love Trump. They freaking love Trump,” Richman said. “But all of them are almost unified in their position of hating f---ing Rudy.”
Prominent criminal defense lawyer Ron Kuby called it “delightful” that the prosecutor “who expanded RICO prosecutions well beyond their original intent,” in his opinion, now has to defend himself against such charges.
Speaking with right-wing cable outlet Newsmax — which is involved in civil litigation over its dubious 2020 election coverage — Giuliani called the charges against him “a ridiculous application of the racketeering statute.”
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I guess this thread is becoming a waste of time and space
The Maga set could not get away quicker from Rudy than his hair dye
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I guess this thread is becoming a waste of time and space
The Maga set could not get away quicker from Rudy than his hair dye
Gold!!!
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Americas mayor is and always has been a colossal piece of shit.
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Americas mayor is and always has been a colossal piece of shit.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fall-rudy-giuliani-americas-mayor-tied-fate-donald-102354181
The most powerful quote from this article is from his ex wife and tends to confirm my perception of him.
“The man that I knew 20 years ago, the hero of Sept. 11 bears no resemblance to this man,” said Judith Giuliani, who was by his side in the aftermath of 9/11 and his 2008 election loss. “I actually feel sorry for him. It’s sad. He’s not the person that he used to be to any of us.”
This quote kind of supports your post.
“The real Rudy Giuliani was hiding in plain sight,” said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union. “Just because he was the face of a devastated and pained city after 9/11 doesn’t mean that he wasn’t still the authoritarian, anti-democratic bully" that he was "for 90% of his mayoralty,” which ran from 1994 to 2001.
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lol….then you Dems wonder why you’re the literal enemies of this country over China and Russia. This is gonna be fun.
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lol….then you Dems wonder why you’re the literal enemies of this country over China and Russia. This is gonna be fun.
Why are you not sending Rudy any money? You parroted his lies (and still do). Why are you not helping Trumpy's little psycho out?
And yes, it is going to be soooooo much fun when the trials start. :D
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Hahaha. TDfS is like rabies. No cure. Accuse first, then hope to find supporting evidence later, if not... just make it up. :D
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Rudy Giuliani Says He Has 'Scientific' Proof Of Election Fraud To Exonerate Him
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Rudy+Giuliani+Says+He+Has+%27Scientific%27+Proof+Of+Election+Fraud+To+Exonerate+Him
Rudy Giuliani on Sunday said he has new “scientific evidence” that 2020 election fraud actually happened ― and that he intends to use it to prove his innocence in the Georgia criminal case against him. (Check out the clip below.)
“There are things we didn’t present then [in 2020] because over the next couple of years, a lot of people did a lot of work and have been able to produce more witnesses and what I would call scientific evidence that is very persuasive,” said Giuliani, ex-President Donald Trump’s former lawyer who was indicted last week for allegedly conspiring with Trump and other allies to fraudulently overturn the election results in the swing state of Georgia.
On his WABC radio show, Giuliani said the case hinged on whether Trump really believed there were “sufficient ground” to argue there was a “crooked” election. “He believed it and I did,” Giuliani said in a clip shared by Raw Story.
Giuliani, who intends to have the case moved to federal court, said the “scientific evidence” would establish that he had good reason to allege the election was fixed and to pursue action.
Giuliani’s eye-rolling declaration, after he spewed baseless claims of ballot corruption and unsuccessfully litigated them in court, followed Trump’s dubious promise to publicly present evidence that would clear his own name. Trump later canceled the news conference.
The financially strapped Giuliani faces legal challenges on several other fronts.
He is being sued by Dominion and Smartmatic for spreading B.S. that their voting services manipulated the 2020 count in President Joe Biden’s favor. The former New York City mayor is also being sued for defamation by two Georgia election workers. (He already admitted to making false and defamatory statements about them but claims they didn’t cause damage). And he has been accused by a former employee of coercing her into sex.
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Well.... looky here. Trumpy is going to be hosting a Rudy
don't flip on me defense fund legal defense fundraiser for poor guy. $100,000 a plate.
(No mention how much of each $100,000 is going into his own pocket.)
Place your bets now to how many actually show up. :)
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Well.... looky here. Trumpy is going to be hosting a Rudy don't flip on me defense fund legal defense fundraiser for poor guy. $100,000 a plate.
(No mention how much of each $100,000 is going into his own pocket.)
Place your bets now to how many actually show up. :)
Ask me 10 years ago and I would say no one... today.. hell, it could be hundreds. My phone is still blowing up from that Qanon nutcase almost daily about some crazy stuff. At this point, any hangers on have to be a little off, and likely in need of therapy and meds.
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hahahaha.... I thought the fake electors of AZ had been "debunked". :D
Obviously, Rudy is in competition with His Orangeness to see who can get the most indictments.
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Arizona prosecutors "aggressively" investigating fake elector "ringleader" Rudy Giuliani: report
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Arizona+prosecutors+%22aggressively%22+investigating+fake+elector+%22ringleader%22+Rudy+Giuliani%3A+report
Arizona prosecutors are "aggressively" intensifying their criminal probe into the 2020 fake electors scheme seeking to keep then-President Donald Trump in office, paying special attention to the role his attorney Rudy Giuliani played as "ringleader" in the plot, two sources with knowledge of the matter told Rolling Stone. In recent weeks, state prosecutors have been asking potential witnesses and other individuals specific questions about the former New York City mayor's background conduct as well as that of other key Trump associates at the time.
Prosecutors have taken interest in a range of notable meetings and phone calls in connection to the plot, including a late November 2020 meeting Trump's legal team called with members of Arizona's state legislature, which featured unfounded claims of voter fraud and urged lawmakers to "take over" the state's selection of electors, the sources told the outlet. State investigators have also asked about Trump's level of involvement in the Arizona leg of the fake electors scheme, one of the sources added.
Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes, who has assigned investigators to the case, called for patience in public comments following Trump's indictment in Fulton County, Georgia earlier this month. "We are doing a thorough and professional investigation, and we're going to do it on our timetable as justice demands," he said. At this early stage in the probe, it is unclear whether Arizona prosecutors will choose to file any charges. In addition to the Georgia charges, the former president also faces a federal indictment in connection to his alleged efforts to undermine President Joe Biden's 2020 victory.
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I wonder why? ??? I can think of a few reasons :
1 - Most attorneys really don't want to fight losing battles
2- Most attorneys actually want to get paid
3 - Most attorneys don't want to risk their license representing these losers
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‘No Attorney Wants to be Associated’: Rudy Giuliani Whines About His Difficulties In Securing Lawyers As He Builds Up Debt for Defense In Georgia RICO Case, Other Civil Cases
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%E2%80%98No+Attorney+Wants+to+be+Associated%E2%80%99%3A+Rudy+Giuliani+Whines+About+His+Difficulties+In+Securing+Lawyers+As+He+Builds+Up+Debt+for+Defense+In+Georgia+RICO+Case%2C+Other+Civil+Cases
Rudy Giuliani, a former mayor of New York and now radio talk show host, became one of Trump’s personal lawyers in 2018. Recently, the political mastermind needed representation himself but implied it was hard to find someone to represent him.
Giuliani once used Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) statutes to lock up dozens of organized crime figures in New York. Now, the same laws are being used in an indictment against him, former President Donald Trump, and 17 others. The lot has been charged with conspiring to overturn election results in the state of Georgia in furtherance of an illegal effort to get the 45th president re-elected.
The ex-federal prosecutor revealed that despite his credentialing as a lawyer, he needed representation himself and had problems securing it.
No one on air seemed to be clear about the public release of headshots, but Collins conceded, “I’m not a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination. I’m in the trucking business, and I need lawyers.”
“If you can get one nowadays,” Giuliani quipped.
Many on social media thought it was hilarious that the New York politician had a problem finding a lawyer to take his case.
“Funny how that works. No attorney wants to be associated with his sorry a**,” one person tweeted.
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Awww... but at least I am sure all the little Trumpturds are getting their checkbooks out right now to help him out. Right?
See, this right here should be a lesson for all the little know-nothings on here. Evidence, not lies, not bravado, not "alternative facts",.. is what wins cases. :D
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Rudy Giuliani is liable for defaming Georgia election workers, judge rules
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Rudy+Giuliani+is+liable+for+defaming+Georgia+election+workers%2C+judge+rules
A federal judge ruled Wednesday that Rudy Giuliani is legally liable for defaming two Georgia election workers who became the subject of conspiracy theories related to the 2020 election that were amplified by Donald Trump in the final weeks of his presidency.
In an unsparing, 57-page ruling, U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell said Giuliani had flagrantly violated her orders to preserve and produce relevant evidence to the election workers, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, resulting in a “default” judgment against him. She also ordered him to pay Freeman and Moss “punitive” damages for failing to fulfill his obligations. A jury will determine the amount of those damages.
“Just as taking shortcuts to win an election carries risks — even potential criminal liability — bypassing the discovery process carries serious sanctions,” Howell ruled.
Howell’s ruling comes several weeks after Giuliani appeared to concede that he made false claims about Moss and Freeman, part of a bid to avoid having to provide additional evidence. But Howell said the carefully crafted admissions, contained in a court filing from Giuliani’s lawyers, “hold more holes than Swiss cheese.”
Howell has given the former New York City mayor and former federal prosecutor until Sept. 20 to produce documents about his net worth, which she said he has dragged his feet on producing so far, as well as records from his companies related to the revenue produced by his “Common Sense” podcast.
A spokesman for Giuliani had no immediate comment on the ruling.
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Oh Rudy..... and that little fundraiser didn't bring in all that much. Now what will happen next? The liquor store cuts off until your tab there is paid?
MAGA = Make Alcohol Great Again
MAGA = Money All Gone Again
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Rudy Giuliani's ex-lawyers sue him for the $1.4 million they say he owes for defending him in election interference investigations
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Rudy+Giuliani%27s+ex-lawyers+sue+him+for+the+%241.4+million+they+say+he+owes+for+defending+him+in+election+interference+investigations
Rudy Giuliani owes nearly $1.4 million to a law firm that represented him in investigations related to his attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, that firm says in a new lawsuit.
The lawsuit, filed in Manhattan state court on Monday, alleges Giuliani agreed to pay over $1.5 million to the law firm Davidoff Hutcher & Citron under a retainer agreement, but has paid only $214,000 to date.
Robert Costello, a partner at the Davidoff firm who is a longtime friend and lawyer to Giuliani, is also a plaintiff in the lawsuit.
Giuliani made a token payment of $10,000 earlier this month — which still leaves a balance of $1,360,196, the complaint claims.
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It just keeps getting better. :D
What a feel good story for today!
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Giuliani had already demonstrated an iffy hold on reality in April, when he went down to Mar-a-Lago with his longtime lawyer, Robert Costello, imagining that notoriously tight-fisted Trump would reward his loyalty by helping to pay his legal bills. CNN has reported that Giuliani reduced himself to begging. Trump pledged to kick in what Giuliani should have expected: exactly nothing.
The most Trump offered was to host two events to raise other people’s money for Giuliani. The first fundraiser was a $100,000-a-plate “Dinner With America’s Mayor” at Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. on Sept. 7. A number of the big-money contributors to Giuliani’s run for president in 2008 made it known beforehand that they would not be attending what was really “Dinner With One RICO Defendant Hosted By Another.”
Unless he failed to draw anyone at all, Giuliani was not so much unable as unwilling to pay more than the $10,000 to his defense counsel. The message to the firm was essentially this: fuck you.
Then, nutty Rudy reacted to the firm’s Sept. 18 lawsuit as if he were the aggrieved party.
“I can’t express how personally hurt I am by what Bob Costello has done,” Giuliani texted. “It’s a real shame when lawyers do things like this, and all I will say is that their bill is way in excess to anything approaching legitimate fees.”
That translates to a double fuck you. The firm notes in the complaint that between November 2019 and July 2023, it had represented Giuliani during criminal investigations by the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, the Fulton County District Attorney in Georgia, and Special Counsel Jack Smith, as well as in more than 10 civil lawsuits and disciplinary proceedings regarding his law license in New York and Washington, D.C. on the promise it would be paid.
Costello did not respond to a Daily Beast request for comment. But the suit reports that Giuliani had been regularly billed during the four- year period.
“Defendant received all invoices,” " the complaint says. “Defendant never raised any objection regarding the correctness of the invoices.”
In suddenly taking it as a personal affront when pressed to actually pay a longstanding bill, Giuliani is following the example of Trump, a notorious welcher.
Among the many people Trump has stiffed is Nicolas Jacobsen of Classic Chandeliers, who installed three crystal chandeliers in Mar-a-Lago in 2005, including the one that famously illuminates the bathroom where the boxers of classified documents were stashed. Trump initially stiffed him, but then finally offered to cough up half on the condition that Jacobson write a letter apologizing for complaining that he had not been paid in full.
The chandeliers will be in glittering evidence if Trump makes good on his pledge to host the second Giuliani fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago. However many money people show up for the sequel, he is not likely to make good on his debt to Costello. The firm will have to secure a judgment and then scramble to put a lien on a Manhattan apartment that Giuliani has put on the market for $6.5 million.
Others who may be compelled to seek payment this way include Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Shaye Moss, two Georgia election workers suing Giuliani for defamation for when he repeatedly suggested they were part of a nonexistent effort to steal the 2020 election. His failure to comply with court-ordered discovery has prompted a federal judge to hold him liable for $133,000 of the defendants’ legal costs. He still faces the penalty phase of the case. Freeman and Moss are also expected to be star witnesses in the Georgia RICO case brought against Giuliani, Trump, and 17 others.
If Giuliani is convicted, the charge brings a five-year minimum sentence. He will at least not have to worry about his prison wages being garnished for outstanding debts. Georgia is one of six states where convicts are not paid at all.
But, hey, if Giuliani keeps getting nuttier, he just might pull off an insanity defense.
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Oh Rudy.... It's gonna be bad. You are owing money all over the place. Ex, these individuals, your attorneys, data companies, telephone companies, and most likely the other couple of legal cases on the horizon. Good news is at your age and health, you may just carry the debt over to the next lifetime and pay through karma there.
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Giuliani trial date set to determine how much he owes election workers he defamed
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani+trial+date+set+to+determine+how+much+he+owes+election+workers+he+defamed
Sept. 21 (UPI) -- The date of the trial to determine how much Rudy Giuliani, an ally of former President Donald Trump, owes to election workers he defamed was set by a federal judge Wednesday for Dec. 11.
Giuliani, 79, was found guilty last month of defaming election workers Ruby Freeman and Wandrea' ArShaye Moss in a default judgment handed down by U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell.
The former mayor of New York City had falsely claimed that Freeman and Moss were caught processing "suitcases" of illegal ballots during the counting of votes during the election in a bid to overturn the results of the 2020 general election.
Specifically, he was found liable for defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress and civil conspiracy.
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Damn you know you reached the bottom of the barrel when you get sued by Hunter.
Does Rudy alway start new weeks off with a new lawsuit? Better donate to help the orange Man’s pet out.
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Why is this NO surprise? I can only imagine the hysterical stuttering, puttering, horse teeth showing excuses he must have made when the attorney asked how he would pay his retainer and fee.
This is what happens when you let a dumb con man rope you into doing his dirty work that he knew was a lie all along. Rudy's real crimes were filing lawsuits he knew were false, signed under penalty of perjury, with no credible evidence to back him up. Trumpy didn't have anything to lose, but Rudy did. And now he has. And boy has he lost. Over and over.
You red hat morons donating to Trumpy should be ashamed for leaving Rudy out in the cold after all the crimes he did for Trumpy.
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Rudy Giuliani’s Georgia Lawyer Just Ditched His Case
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Rudy+Giuliani%E2%80%99s+Georgia+Lawyer+Just+Ditched+His+Case
One of Rudy Giuliani’s Georgia lawyers is moving to withdraw himself from representing the former New York mayor and Trump co-defendant.
David Wolfe filed notice Thursday to withdraw from the Fulton County 2020 election conspiracy case.
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It just isn't getting any better for America's Deadbeat. :'(
He has no value to anyone at this point. Even the opposing side doesn't need him to sing at this point. Time for the old public defender route.
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https://www.google.com/search?channel=ftrc&client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani+to+lose+2nd+attorney+in+Georgia%2C+leaving+him+without+local+legal+team
Giuliani to lose 2nd attorney in Georgia, leaving him without local legal team
A second lawyer for Rudy Giuliani is seeking to depart his legal team in Georgia, sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News, a move that would appear to leave the former New York City mayor without any local lawyers in the state.
A motion to withdraw has been submitted to the clerk, the sources said. A judge in the case has to sign off on the motion.
News of the move comes after several other former attorneys of the Trump ally have sued Giuliani for failure to pay his bills, including his longtime friend and attorney Bob Costello, who sued Giuliani for over $1 million in payments due to his firm.
Earlier, an additional lawyer for Giuliani in Georgia, David Wolfe, submitted his own motion to withdraw from his representation of Giuliani.
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Why is this no surprise? All the sober lawyers tell Trump he lost, so Trump goes with the drunk one. Shocker.
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Prosecutors Are Asking Questions About Rudy Giuliani’s Drinking
https://www.google.com/search?channel=ftrc&client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Prosecutors+Are+Asking+Questions+About+Rudy+Giuliani%E2%80%99s+Drinking
Giuliani’s drinking has previously been commented on by other Trump advisers who were at the White House on election night. Jason Miller, a senior Trump adviser, told the Jan. 6 Committee that Giuliani was “definitely intoxicated” on the night he was telling others “we need to go say that we won.” Miller said that he did “not know his level of intoxication when he spoke with the president,” and Giuliani denied the account. Liz Cheney, who co-chaired the committee, said Trump has “followed the advice of an apparently inebriated Rudy Giuliani.”
Trump himself has “spoken derisively” in private about Giuliani’s alcohol consumption, according to the Times, citing a source familiar with the comments. The newspaper also reported that a consensus from friends and former aides of the former New York City mayor was that his drinking had amplified some of his qualities—“conspiracism, gullibility, a weakness for grandeur”—rather than causing a wholesale transformation of his character.
“I’m with the mayor on a regular basis for the past year, and the idea that he is an alcoholic is a flat-out lie,” Ted Goodman, a political adviser to Giuliani, told the Times in a statement. He went on to add: “The Rudy Giuliani you all see today is the same man who took down the mafia, cleaned up the streets of New York and comforted the nation following 9/11.”
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Where are all the Rudy fans on here? I remember when you were parroting that bullshit he was spewing line for line. Now just silence. You better donate to your boy. And this idiot is starting up a new lawsuit when he doesn't have money to pay the attorneys for the one(s) he is currently entangled in.
Another dumbass who hitched himself to Trumpy and is now broke, indicted, barred from practicing law, and a virtual walking meme at this point. And no help from the Orange turd in sight. Sucker!
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Giuliani Owes $550K in Unpaid Taxes, Lien Placed on Apartment: Report
https://www.google.com/search?channel=ftrc&client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani+Owes+%24550K+in+Unpaid+Taxes%2C+Lien+Placed+on+Apartment%3A+Report
Rudy Giuliani owes $550,000 in unpaid 2021 income taxes, according to a court filing obtained by the Daily Mail. In response, the IRS has placed a lien on the 79-year-old’s $4.5 million Palm Beach penthouse, located just three miles away from the former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate. The court documents state that if Giuliani refuses to pay, the IRS can take some of the revenue if he sold his apartment. Financial records reveal that Giuliani bought the three-bedroom residence with his then-wife Judith Nathan in 2010 but became the sole owner after their divorce. The news comes after The New York Times’ Wednesday report of Giuliani’s alleged drinking habits were under investigation by Special Counsel Jack Smith and the former New York City mayor’s denial that same day. Two weeks ago, the Daily Mail claimed that Giuliani’s legal battles and “fun” spending had left him “penniless” based on quotes from his biographer, Andrew Kirtzman.
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Why is this no surprise? All the sober lawyers tell Trump he lost, so Trump goes with the drunk one. Shocker.
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Prosecutors Are Asking Questions About Rudy Giuliani’s Drinking
https://www.google.com/search?channel=ftrc&client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Prosecutors+Are+Asking+Questions+About+Rudy+Giuliani%E2%80%99s+Drinking
Giuliani’s drinking has previously been commented on by other Trump advisers who were at the White House on election night. Jason Miller, a senior Trump adviser, told the Jan. 6 Committee that Giuliani was “definitely intoxicated” on the night he was telling others “we need to go say that we won.” Miller said that he did “not know his level of intoxication when he spoke with the president,” and Giuliani denied the account. Liz Cheney, who co-chaired the committee, said Trump has “followed the advice of an apparently inebriated Rudy Giuliani.”
Trump himself has “spoken derisively” in private about Giuliani’s alcohol consumption, according to the Times, citing a source familiar with the comments. The newspaper also reported that a consensus from friends and former aides of the former New York City mayor was that his drinking had amplified some of his qualities—“conspiracism, gullibility, a weakness for grandeur”—rather than causing a wholesale transformation of his character.
“I’m with the mayor on a regular basis for the past year, and the idea that he is an alcoholic is a flat-out lie,” Ted Goodman, a political adviser to Giuliani, told the Times in a statement. He went on to add: “The Rudy Giuliani you all see today is the same man who took down the mafia, cleaned up the streets of New York and comforted the nation following 9/11.”
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Remember when the board was filled with our own right wing nutcase telling us how Rudy and "The Kraken" Sydney Powell were going to overturn the election with all the evidence they had?
Then when it came to light they had no such evidence it shifted to the courts never heard the case? And then when it came to light courts heard the preliminary evidence and it fell short, it was "Fake news"?
Seems our resident nutcase just moves on to the next thing, and the next thing... and when those get blown out of the water "Ashleys Diary" they ignore it and move on to the next thing. Do they think we're goldfish? They sure act like no one has a memory beyond the last 48 hrs.
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Remember when the board was filled with our own right wing nutcase telling us how Rudy and "The Kraken" Sydney Powell were going to overturn the election with all the evidence they had?
Then when it came to light they had no such evidence it shifted to the courts never heard the case? And then when it came to light courts heard the preliminary evidence and it fell short, it was "Fake news"?
Seems our resident nutcase just moves on to the next thing, and the next thing... and when those get blown out of the water "Ashleys Diary" they ignore it and move on to the next thing. Do they think we're goldfish? They sure act like no one has a memory beyond the last 48 hrs.
Yeah. It was so funny. Now it's just crickets.
They were preaching the gospel about this evidence.
Then were crying because the "fake" courts wouldn't look at it.
Then still claiming the evidence existed.
Then came the "Banana Republic" claims. When they truly do not know what a Banana Republic is.
And then.... and then.... and this is the best part..... it was suddenly "debunked".
Anytime "evidence" is mentioned now, all they can reply with is nervous laughter.
GOOD TIMES!
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Yeah. It was so funny. Now it's just crickets.
They were preaching the gospel about this evidence.
Then were crying because the "fake" courts wouldn't look at it.
Then still claiming the evidence existed.
Then came the "Banana Republic" claims. When they truly do not know what a Banana Republic is.
And then.... and then.... and this is the best part..... it was suddenly "debunked".
Anytime "evidence" is mentioned now, all they can reply with is nervous laughter.
GOOD TIMES!
If at the end of the day.. at least one of them learned a lesson.. it might all be worth it.. but I doubt it.. I have not heard one Trump supporter on this forum say anything close to
Well hell, I was wrong, the election wasn't stolen, Trump and his minions lied, which caused Jan 6th.
Not a single one.. They just don't talk about it in hopes it goes away and we forget they were all on board the Gulliani train.
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If at the end of the day.. at least one of them learned a lesson.. it might all be worth it.. but I doubt it.. I have not heard one Trump supporter on this forum say anything close to
Well hell, I was wrong, the election wasn't stolen, Trump and his minions lied, which caused Jan 6th.
Not a single one.. They just don't talk about it in hopes it goes away and we forget they were all on board the Gulliani train.
You realize that this post will 'fall on deaf ears.'
It is likely you never will hear any of these folks say they learned a lesson. They will take their beliefs to their grave.
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You realize that this post will 'fall on deaf ears.'
It is likely you never will hear any of these folks say they learned a lesson. They will take their beliefs to their grave.
Just like you spineless and brainless cokk-guzzling libturds... Deaf ears?? Who in their right mind listens to you insane libtards ::) ::)
Fuckking commie kvntz, fukk off..
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If at the end of the day.. at least one of them learned a lesson.. it might all be worth it.. but I doubt it.. I have not heard one Trump supporter on this forum say anything close to
Well hell, I was wrong, the election wasn't stolen, Trump and his minions lied, which caused Jan 6th.
Not a single one.. They just don't talk about it in hopes it goes away and we forget they were all on board the Gulliani train.
I can't really comment on the Jan 6th incident as didn't follow it.
Though from some of the footage Posted it's clear cops security were
complicit by opening doors & ushering folk in & walking them around.
A for the election again from what I've seen & read not only on here
& speaking to my brother in law I'd say it's fair to say there was some
skullduggery going on - just look at the other thread about Biden's lies & the
report - I believe it was along way off being a fair election.
Voter ID a must & mail in votes should be kept to an absolute minimum.
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I can't really comment on the Jan 6th incident as didn't follow it.
Though from some of the footage Posted it's clear cops security were
complicit by opening doors & ushering folk in & walking them around.
A for the election again from what I've seen & read not only on here
& speaking to my brother in law I'd say it's fair to say there was some
skullduggery going on - just look at the other thread about Biden's lies & the
report - I believe it was along way off being a fair election.
Voter ID a must & mail in votes should be kept to an absolute minimum.
Just to be clear about what seems can be a muddied issue.. through the exhaustive investigations, claims, re investigations, inspections, fact checking ad nauseum, as a lay person,
There is NO government entity, be it Republican or Democrat, that has shown anything other than a fair election. EVEN the Republican election officials said it was fair. The State courts said it was fair. The Attorney General under Trump said it was fair, the Vice President under Trump said it was fair.
The bottom line is, the claim of an unfair election, was investigated and at each turn, their evidence was shot down or explained. This was by Republicans.. At this point, I just don't know what else could have transpired that would convince those undying Trump supporters that the election was fair. The Supreme Court, heavily weighted with Republican appointees wouldn't bite. Trump appointed Judges wouldn't bite. A pillow guy and a losing president with a crazy lawyer was really all it took to shake up this country and make them doubt every process we've held dear for 200 years. To me, that's just cultish ignorance. At some point, when every one, even your own team is telling you you lost, you need to man up and accept you lost. Continuing with the stolen election claim is now in the insanity realm.
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I can't really comment on the Jan 6th incident as didn't follow it.
Though from some of the footage Posted it's clear cops security were
complicit by opening doors & ushering folk in & walking them around.
A for the election again from what I've seen & read not only on here
& speaking to my brother in law I'd say it's fair to say there was some
skullduggery going on - just look at the other thread about Biden's lies & the
report - I believe it was along way off being a fair election.
Voter ID a must & mail in votes should be kept to an absolute minimum.
Neither did Agnostic, Lurker or Prime.
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Neither did Agnostic, Lurker or Prime.
that's classic.. from a guy who didn't read or hear anything about the current impeachment hearings that didn't come from Breitbart, Pundit, American Thinker or the Enquirer ::)
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Neither did Agnostic, Lurker or Prime.
You mean the guys that live in reality and understand facts and logic?
I can see why you were given retardation as a survival mechanism.
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Surprise! (not really). It's over at this point. The only way this man doesn't die broke is if he dies tomorrow. :-\ But nobody wants to see that. We want to see him punished and hounded for every little cent he has until the only thing he has left is his alcoholism and having to drink mouthwash and Night Train.
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Judge punishes Rudy Giuliani for flagrant disregard of court orders
The judge presiding over the upcoming damages trial against
said Friday she will tell jurors that the former Trump lawyer intentionally hid financial documents and other records in defiance of court orders.
In a five-page ruling, U.S. District Judge
said the move was necessary given "Giuliani’s continued and flagrant disregard of this Court’s August 30 Order that he produce financial-related documents concerning his personal and his businesses’ past and present assets" and other pertinent information.
That means jurors deciding how much Giuliani should pay two Georgia election workers he defamed will be told they can assume the worst about why the former New York City mayor has failed to turn over the court-ordered records.
"The jury will be instructed that it must, when determining an appropriate sum of compensatory, presumed, and punitive damages, infer that defendant Giuliani was intentionally trying to hide relevant discovery about the Giuliani Businesses’ finances for the purpose of shielding his assets from discovery and artificially deflating his net worth," the judge wrote.
Additionally, Giuliani and his lawyer will be prohibited "from making any argument, or introducing any evidence, stating or suggesting that he is insolvent, bankrupt, judgment proof, or otherwise unable to defend himself" since he failed to hand over evidence that would show that's true, the judge wrote.
Giuliani's attorney and spokesperson did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
The ruling is the second in two months where the judge has blasted Giuliani for repeatedly failing to follow court orders and rules in the defamation lawsuit that was brought against him by Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shaye Moss.
While promoting his client and then-President Donald Trump's false claims of a rigged 2020 election, Giuliani repeatedly — and falsely — accused Freeman and Moss of election fraud in Fulton County.
Giuliani had claimed the two were “passing around USB ports like they were vials of heroin or cocaine” as they were counting votes. A report published by the House Jan. 6 committee found that they were passing a ginger mint.
Both Freeman and Moss received death threats because of the false accusations.
In August, Howell ruled that Giuliani was liable for defaming the election workers over his repeated refusal to turn over certain documents. The judge then scheduled a Dec. 11 trial for damages, and ordered him to turn over financial information and documents to her lawyers. The trial will be held in Washington, D.C.
In a filing last month, Freeman's attorneys said Giuliani “failed to take any of the actions” ordered by the court, including turning over $89,000 in legal fees.
"Consistent with his prior track record in this matter, Giuliani failed to file any response," the judge wrote.
Friday's ruling comes as Giuliani faces increased legal and financial problems. He's been charged criminally in the Fulton County racketeering case with Trump and more than a dozen others. All but one of the 19 defendants has pleaded not guilty.
Giuliani's also being sued by his former lawyers, who allege he owes them about $1.4 million in unpaid legal fees. Giuliani has called the bill excessive.
He also owes the IRS almost $550,000 in unpaid federal taxes. Giuliani spokesperson Ted Goodman said last week that he "has a formal agreement with the IRS to pay off the liability.”
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Is Mar-A-Lardo and America's Hobo having a contest or something? Trying to see who can be sued the most?
Rudy now is being sued for being a deadbeat. Again. This time by his accounting firm. Don't these MAGA leaders ever pay their bills?
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Is Mar-A-Lardo and America's Hobo having a contest or something? Trying to see who can be sued the most?
Rudy now is being sued for being a deadbeat. Again. This time by his accounting firm. Don't these MAGA leaders ever pay their bills?
No one cares about Rudy, Clown!
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No one cares about Rudy, Clown!
You do.
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Neither did Agnostic, Lurker or Prime.
You seem to think you know everything Agnostic, Lurker and I did or saw on that day. Like much of the country, I and I suspect my two comrades were literally glued to the media coverage of January 6, 2021, while it was transpiring and being broadcasted on every network. Speaking for the three of us, we don't need you - who long before the January 6th insurrection, fell under Donald Trump's spell, including everything he says, does and touches. You are one among several of his best cult followers. This is as obvious to most people as what was happening at the Capitol on that day.
To be quite honest. I am very surprised you have not been implicated as one of the insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol on January 6th. On the other hand, maybe you were there, and the feds have not caught up with you yet. How does it feel worrying you may very well be under government surveillance at this very moment and that at any time the FBI might show up to arrest you? FYI, when they do, it is best not to resist. They have been known to shoot and sometimes kill those who do. :o
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You do.
I care about seeing you get on a plane to China where you belong.
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I care about seeing you get on a plane to China where you belong.
Keep caring. That is all you can do.
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You seem to think you know everything Agnostic, Lurker and I did or saw on that day. Like much of the country, I and I suspect my two comrades were literally glued to the media coverage of January 6, 2021, while it was transpiring and being broadcasted on every network. Speaking for the three of us, we don't need you - who long before the January 6th insurrection, fell under Donald Trump's spell, including everything he says, does and touches. You are one among several of his best cult followers. This is as obvious to most people as what was happening at the Capitol on that day.
To be quite honest. I am very surprised you have not been implicated as one of the insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol on January 6th. On the other hand, maybe you were there, and the feds have not caught up with you yet. How does it feel worrying you may very well be under government surveillance at this very moment and that at any time the FBI might show up to arrest you? FYI, when they do, it is best not to resist. They have been known to shoot and sometimes kill those who do. :o
Me - I was there ;D
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Me - I was there ;D
How were you able to get a Visitor Visa for the U.S. Embassy in GB? I had the impression that terrorist were not welcome. ;D
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How were you able to get a Visitor Visa for the U.S. Embassy in GB? I had the impression that terrorist were not welcome. ;D
You know all about terrorists anti-american coward!
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To be quite honest. I am very surprised you have not been implicated as one of the insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol on January 6th.
There was no insurrection and no "insurrectionists" who stormed the Capitol on January 6th. If there was and were, they would have been charged with insurrection.
But it kinda feels like I've said this before. lol
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How were you able to get a Visitor Visa for the U.S. Embassy in GB? I had the impression that terrorist were not welcome. ;D
Easy - I came in Via the ultra Closed & secure Southern Border
Just like the 1000s of others .
Yep it sure is a Closed Border. ::) 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You & Agnostic007 Tell Me again how closed that Border is .
Idiots. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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Easy - I came in Via the ultra Closed & secure Southern Border
Just like the 1000s of others .
Yep it sure is a Closed Border. ::) 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You & Agnostic007 Tell Me again how closed that Border is .
Idiots. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Your bullshit posts are always good for a laugh. ;D
If you came across the southern border as you say without a passport, you entered the country illegally and not through one of the many legal border crossings, where in addition to a valid passport, you need a free, short-term permit known as an FMM, So then tell me, how was wading across the Rio Grande/Río Bravo or did you swim across the river? Did you find the water cold? Which of the four U.S. states bordering Mexico did come across? Did you get a peek at 'the wall'? Did it look just like it does in photos? How did you get back to the U.K.?
(https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/u411/Primary%20Image.jpg)
(https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/32/d32d37f0-53c6-11ed-a56c-73b75f938e19/6356d4a6a47f2.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C800)
Where people entering the country legally from Tijuana cross the border.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Otay_Mesa_Port_of_Entry.jpg/300px-Otay_Mesa_Port_of_Entry.jpg)
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Your bullshit posts are always good for a laugh. ;D
If you came across the southern border as you say without a passport, you entered the country illegally and not through one of the many legal border crossings, where in addition to a valid passport, you need a free, short-term permit known as an FMM, So then tell me, how was wading across the Rio Grande/Río Bravo or did you swim across the river? Did you find the water cold? Which of the four U.S. states bordering Mexico did come across? Did you get a peek at 'the wall'? Did it look just like it does in photos? How did you get back to the U.K.?
(https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/u411/Primary%20Image.jpg)
(https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/32/d32d37f0-53c6-11ed-a56c-73b75f938e19/6356d4a6a47f2.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C800)
Where people entering the country legally from Tijuana cross the border.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Otay_Mesa_Port_of_Entry.jpg/300px-Otay_Mesa_Port_of_Entry.jpg)
Are you not comprehending ? I said I crossed the boarder illegally
Like 1000s of others.
So why the stupid crap about Passports etc ::)
Go have a look yourself at the secure Southern boarder your so proud of 🤣😂🤣
See how many are coming across illegally- so much for your secure boarder 🤣😂🤣
Why do you parrot such idiotic nonsense, if your Southern Border was secure there wouldn't
Be the millions of illegals in America- or are you going to stick your head up your Arse
& Deny there aren't millions of illegals ??
Sanctuary cities anyone.
Fuck you Libturds are so Daft.
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Are you not comprehending ? I said I crossed the boarder illegally
Like 1000s of others.
So why the stupid crap about Passports etc ::)
Go have a look yourself at the secure Southern boarder your so proud of 🤣😂🤣
See how many are coming across illegally- so much for your secure boarder 🤣😂🤣
Why do you parrot such idiotic nonsense, if your Southern Border was secure there wouldn't
Be the millions of illegals in America- or are you going to stick your head up your Arse
& Deny there aren't millions of illegals ??
Sanctuary cities anyone.
Fuck you Libturds are so Daft.
He is dumb as rocks and doesn't even realize it. I've said it before, I don't know how someone like him has made it to old age, dumb luck I suppose.
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He is dumb as rocks and doesn't even realize it. I've said it before, I don't know how someone like him has made it to old age, dumb luck I suppose.
He's not as dumb as he makes out , Clearly has trouble seeing & admitting the truth about
Whats going on , and just trumpets out the official narrative time & again.
That's likely the Libturdia at work. Everyone knows the Southern boarder is about
As secure as chain link fencing is to stop mosquitos - yet he has post stupid MSM
Pics up as some kind of proof 🤣😂🤣
I just don't get the refusal to ever admit when something is Fucked or Wrong.
As I very clearly pointed out to him & Agnostic007 the UK is an island & has secure boards ::)
Yes so secure that we have 100s of illegals coming in every fucking week & Tons of Drugs,
Yeah thats Really secure boarders - NOT.
Yet both of them are totally incapable of admitting or saying the same thing -
They just trumpet out the same crap over & over. Pathetic it really is.
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Are you not comprehending ? I said I crossed the boarder illegally
Like 1000s of others.
So why the stupid crap about Passports etc ::)
Go have a look yourself at the secure Southern boarder your so proud of 🤣😂🤣
See how many are coming across illegally- so much for your secure boarder 🤣😂🤣
Why do you parrot such idiotic nonsense, if your Southern Border was secure there wouldn't
Be the millions of illegals in America- or are you going to stick your head up your Arse
& Deny there aren't millions of illegals ??
Sanctuary cities anyone.
Fuck you Libturds are so Daft.
I still call bullshit on you crossing the southern U.S. border illegally. Why would you bother? Are you a criminal who cannot get a passport or a visa? Honestly, you flew all the way from GB to South America just so you could cross the border illegally? And to prove what? That you could? This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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I still call bullshit on you crossing the southern U.S. border illegally. Why would you bother? Are you a criminal who cannot get a passport or a visa? Honestly, you flew all the way from GB to South America just so you could cross the border illegally? And to prove what? That you could? This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
I call bullshit on a lot of what you post.
Why would I , Because I can & there's no trace of me entering or leaving. 👍🏻
As for my criminal activities I shall not discuss them. 😊
It is wise not to & to also spread plenty of miss information for those that like
To think they know someone by reading there posts.
And we have a few on here like that.
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Easy - I came in Via the ultra Closed & secure Southern Border
Just like the 1000s of others .
Yep it sure is a Closed Border. ::) 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You & Agnostic007 Tell Me again how closed that Border is .
Idiots. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Closed enough to keep midget liars in the UK pretending to be serial killing Hell's Angels out.
Let me guess, you came over just to hand deliver your US citizenship application? ::)
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I still call bullshit on you crossing the southern U.S. border illegally. Why would you bother? Are you a criminal who cannot get a passport or a visa? Honestly, you flew all the way from GB to South America just so you could cross the border illegally? And to prove what? That you could? This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Yep. Just another lie from the Liar of Leicestershire.
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Oh no. How will Rudy be able to buy his alcohol? It sounds like we are supposed to feel sorry for America's Deadbeat. Well that just will not be happening. At this rate, the compulsive liar won't be able to afford a single ginger mint like the ones that led to his public breaking.
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https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani%E2%80%99s+Lawyer+Whines+That+Defamation+Damages+Could+%E2%80%98End%E2%80%99+Rudy
Lawyers for Rudy Giuliani are begging jurors not to grant two Georgia election workers the up-to $43 million in damages they’ve requested in their defamation case against the former Trump attorney.
Before the court on Monday, Giuliani’s lawyer Joe Sibley called the proposed damages “the civil equivalent of the death penalty.”
“If you award them what they are asking for, it will be the end of Mr. Giuliani,” he said.
In August, Giuliani was found liable for defaming Ruby Freeman and her daughter Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, two Georgia election workers who he falsely accused of participating in vote manipulation in the aftermath of the 2020 presidential election. A jury trial, which began Monday, will determine how much Giuliani owes the two women in damages. Moss and Freeman have requested a sum between $15.3 million and $43 million in compensatory and punitive damages.
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Hahahhahah. You can't make shit like this up. Just like his orange hero, he is scared shitless to testify.
After continuing to defame election workers with the exact same lies that landed him on the losing end of a lawsuit in the first place, he told reporters outside the courthouse Monday his accusations that the women “engaged in changing votes” were true. Rudy stated that “when I testify, the whole story will be definitively clear that what I said was true, and that, everything I said about them is true,”
*one day later*
Rudy decides not to testify.
hahahahahaha. What is it with these MAGA morons that state they have all this evidence that exonerates them and everyone else, promises to share this evidence and prove the election was stolen, and yet.... after 3 years of absolutely nothing, chose not to say or do anything when their day in the sun finally comes? :D
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Hahahhahah. You can't make shit like this up. Just like his orange hero, he is scared shitless to testify.
After continuing to defame election workers with the exact same lies that landed him on the losing end of a lawsuit in the first place, he told reporters outside the courthouse Monday his accusations that the women “engaged in changing votes” were true. Rudy stated that “when I testify, the whole story will be definitively clear that what I said was true, and that, everything I said about them is true,”
*one day later*
Rudy decides not to testify.
hahahahahaha. What is it with these MAGA morons that state they have all this evidence that exonerates them and everyone else, promises to share this evidence and prove the election was stolen, and yet.... after 3 years of absolutely nothing, chose not to say or do anything when their day in the sun finally comes? :D
This is an excellent example of learned behavior that was taught to them by their Lord and master, Donald the grifter Trump. The idea is if you repeat something enough times, no matter that it is a ridiculous lie, folks will believe it is the truth. MAGA supporters are proof of this. They are also a flock of sheep who will go over the cliff with their cult leader, who will no doubt egg them on while he squats in his safety net eating McDonalds burgers and fries.
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This is an excellent example of learned behavior that was taught to them by their Lord and master, Donald the grifter Trump. The idea is if you repeat something enough times, no matter that it is a ridiculous lie, folks will believe it is the truth. MAGA supporters are proof of this. They are also a flock of sheep who will go over the cliff with their cult leader, who will no doubt egg them on while he squats in his safety net eating McDonalds burgers and fries.
You are 100% correct.
And even better question, is if they had this evidence that exonerated them and proved their claims, why wait until they got to court in the first place? Why not release it years ago?
hahahahahaha..... crickets from the red hat idiots on here over this.
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Poor Rudy. Poor. Like, super POOR! 148 Million.
Hahahahhahahaa... wheeeee!
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You are 100% correct.
And even better question, is if they had this evidence that exonerated them and proved their claims, why wait until they got to court in the first place? Why not release it years ago?
hahahahahaha..... crickets from the red hat idiots on here over this.
You, I, and a few other enlightened people here realize that many of the far right and MAGA folks posting on Getbig represent a small segment on the political spectrum. It appears they are desperately hanging on to their beliefs because they represent everything to them. Without them, they have nothing, and they are nowhere.
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This is an excellent example of learned behavior that was taught to them by their Lord and master, Donald the grifter Trump. The idea is if you repeat something enough times, no matter that it is a ridiculous lie, folks will believe it is the truth. MAGA supporters are proof of this. They are also a flock of sheep who will go over the cliff with their cult leader, who will no doubt egg them on while he squats in his safety net eating McDonalds burgers and fries.
Please. The left are masters of this.
"Trump said nazis were very fine people".....false never happend. But perpetuated in the media, etc
"Trump said drink bleach"...never happned, but still believed.
"No evidence on Biden"....KJP said it the other day multple times, despite IRS agents saying it exists.
You've fallen for it yourself.
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Please. The left are masters of this.
"Trump said nazis were very fine people".....false never happend. But perpetuated in the media, etc
"Trump said drink bleach"...never happned, but still believed.
"No evidence on Biden"....KJP said it the other day multple times, despite IRS agents saying it exists.
You've fallen for it yourself.
Someone once told me that perception is everything. Many people believe Trump said Nazis are very fine people, and suggested folks ingest disinfectants in a very public well watched forum. Bleach is perhaps the best most widely known disinfectant. It is not much of a stretch for millions of folks to have perceived that Trump said, "drink bleach." If the media were mute on these subjects, the perception would still be there.
IRS agents are not Gods. These folks like most can be misguided and manipulated. That IRS agents said hard evidence exists means very little.
Some of the things President Biden is accused of doing are illegal. When he is charged with and convicted of these crimes in a court of law and not just the court of public opinion, we can talk.
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Please. The left are masters of this.
"Trump said nazis were very fine people".....false never happend. But perpetuated in the media, etc
"Trump said drink bleach"...never happned, but still believed.
"No evidence on Biden"....KJP said it the other day multple times, despite IRS agents saying it exists.
You've fallen for it yourself.
Did he or did he not say there are fine people on both sides? Were one of those sides comprised of neo-nazi's? I say the answer is yes to both questions. Therefore, it's not a stretch to suggest he was implying nazi's are or can be very fine people.
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Did he or did he not say there are fine people on both sides? Were one of those sides comprised of neo-nazi's? I say the answer is yes to both questions. Therefore, it's not a stretch to suggest he was implying nazi's are or can be very fine people.
But, but, but he either didn't mean what he was saying, or everyone misunderstood him, or he claims now that he was only kidding, or some other lame excuse folks come up with.
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Shades the bitch slap that E Jean delivered to the orange cheetoh. Maybe we can get to see that evidence he has this time. hahahahahaha
Soon he won't be able to afford cheap scotch and cheaper hair dye.
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The Georgia election workers that Rudy Giuliani defamed sued the former Trump attorney again on Monday for continuing to make defamatory statements about them.
Giuliani was found liable in August for defaming Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shaye Moss, after he accused the pair of manipulating ballots in Georgia during the 2020 election. The two women have been subjected to months of harassment and death threats. A judge ordered Giuliani on Friday to pay Freeman and Moss nearly $150 million in damages last week.
Freeman and Moss filed a fresh defamation lawsuit against Giuliani Monday for refusing to take a hint.
“Defendant Giuliani continues to spread the very same lies for which he has already been held liable in the Freeman I action,” the lawsuit said, referring to the previous case.
In fact, on December 15, “just hours after the jury in Freeman I returned a $148 million verdict against him, Defendant Giuliani appeared from Washington, D.C. for a live interview on Newsmax, in which he repeatedly asserted, either directly or at minimum by implication, that he was in possession of video evidence demonstrating the truth of his allegations against Plaintiffs.”
Giuliani has already admitted that he made false statements about Freeman and Moss. In a July court filing, he acknowledged that his “statements carry meaning that is defamatory.” At the time, he insisted he only made that concession to move the lawsuit forward.
Except he moved it forward right to a ruling of liability. And on Friday, a jury decided he owed the mother and daughter $148 million: $16 million each in damages for defamation, $20 million each for emotional distress, and another $75 million in punitive damages.
Monday’s lawsuit is only seeking to bar Giuliani from making or repeating any more false claims about Freeman and Moss. The women have also requested he pay their legal fees for the new suit, but they are not asking for further financial damages
That could be because Giuliani is so hard up for cash that he will likely struggle to make the payments from Friday’s ruling. Giuliani has begun representing himself in court to save some cash. The man once affectionately known as “America’s mayor” is scrambling to find the money for all his legal fees and even listed his Manhattan apartment for sale in July. In August, after he was indicted in Georgia, Giuliani asked his social media followers to donate to his defense fund.
He also flew to Mar-a-Lago to beg his boss Donald Trump to pay him for working as Trump’s personal attorney. That didn’t work, but Trump did agree to host a fundraiser dinner for Giuliani. Entry cost: $100,000 a plate.
What’s more, people keep suing him for money owed. Several of Giuliani’s former lawyers, including his longtime attorney Robert Costello, have sued Giuliani for failing to pay their legal fees.
Meanwhile, Giuliani’s ex-wife says he owes her more than $260,000 for her country club memberships, condominium fees, and health care as part of their divorce settlement. Giuliani narrowly avoided jail time over that lawsuit in December. And one of Giuliani’s former associates sued him in May, accusing him of promising to pay her a $1 million annual salary but instead sexually harassing and abusing her over two years.
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Go Rudy Go..... set that record!
“If I showed you the evidence right now … people would see that what I said was absolutely true and there’s support for it.” <-- hahahaha
Why not show the evidence then? Evidence isn't produced by just screaming loudly and lying about it. You have to, like.... actually submit something. So far it seems to be a lesson that is unheard of MAGAland. 3 years, neither His Orangeness, Rudy, Pillow Guy, or any of the others has produced any credible evidence of a stolen election. And "the others" include the morons on here as well.
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Unfazed by latest lawsuit, Giuliani re-ups fraud claims that cost him $148 million
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Unfazed+by+latest+lawsuit%2C+Giuliani+re-ups+fraud+claims+that+cost+him+%24148+million
Rudy Giuliani doubled down on his election-related allegations Monday, just days after two Georgia election workers won millions in a defamation lawsuit against him and hours after they filed another suit against him.
The former New York mayor must pay $148 million in damages to election workers Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shaye Moss as a result of their emotional distress following Giuliani’s accusations that the two were manipulating ballots in 2020. The second lawsuit sought to keep him from repeating the debunked claims at the heart of the first case.
In a rambling interview with Newsmax’s Rob Schmitt, Giuliani blasted the verdict, describing the court as a “fascist system run by the Biden regime.”
Giuliani told Schmitt that he still believes the allegations to be true, but that they “want me to lie.”
“They are suing me in order to lie to them. I’m sorry, I can’t do it,” Giuliani said. “If I showed you the evidence right now … people would see that what I said was absolutely true and there’s support for it.”
Giuliani said that the “judge decided I was guilty, not based on any evidence, but based on the fact that I didn’t turn over some financial documents.”
Despite being expected to testify during the four-day trial, Giuliani’s team did not have him take the stand.
The interview took place hours after Freeman and Moss filed a new lawsuit against Giuliani in an attempt to bar him from any future defamatory claims. On Dec. 11, outside the courthouse, Giuliani told reporters that he regretted nothing about what he had said because "they were engaged in changing votes."
On Monday, Giuliani described the second suit as “un-American,” and asked: “Are they actually going to put a gag on me?”
In August, District Judge Beryl Howell imposed a default judgment against Giuliani, saying that he had repeatedly failed to comply with orders to produce evidence sought by Freeman and Moss. The case then proceeded to the stage where damages were to be determined.
Following the verdict, Giuliani told reporters outside the courthouse Friday he is planning to appeal. The outcome included $75 million in “punitive” damages as an attempt to deter future attempts to defame election workers counting ballots in subsequent elections.
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Poor Lurker....(not)
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Someone once told me that perception is everything. Many people believe Trump said Nazis are very fine people, and suggested folks ingest disinfectants in a very public well watched forum. Bleach is perhaps the best most widely known disinfectant. It is not much of a stretch for millions of folks to have perceived that Trump said, "drink bleach." If the media were mute on these subjects, the perception would still be there.
IRS agents are not Gods. These folks like most can be misguided and manipulated. That IRS agents said hard evidence exists means very little.
Some of the things President Biden is accused of doing are illegal. When he is charged with and convicted of these crimes in a court of law and not just the court of public opinion, we can talk.
Perception is Millions of Folk Think
Joe is a Pervert Pedo & a Crook & his son is the same,
No matter what the Lying MSM says.
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Perception is Millions of Folk Think
Joe is a Pervert Pedo & a Crook & his son is the same,
No matter what the Lying MSM says.
Fact (not perception) is that you are the biggest liar of anyone. MSM or not. No one cares what you think.
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Poor Lurker....(not)
You do know he's a Pedo & a Faggott pole sucker.
Why do you think he goes over to Thailand.
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You do know he's a Pedo & a Faggott pole sucker.
Why do you think he goes over to Thailand.
I know.
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Whenever I see the biggest liar on the board showcasing his queer bait and pedo obsessions, then I have to smile to myself at owning his tiny little mind.
If I were really a homo and pedo, then I would be living in a shithole area of UK right Tony?
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I know.
😊 👊🏻
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Hey Tiny Tit Tony,
Tell us more stories. We all believe you. Really. :D
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Back to the liar this thread is about (who is American and can vote by the way, unlike the euro trash pretend pussy who reads every single thing I post)...
And claiming bankruptcy isn't going to save him. :D
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/giuliani-must-immediately-pay-148-154222149.html
Giuliani must immediately pay $148 million to Georgia election workers
Rudy Giuliani must immediately pay $148 million to two Georgia election workers he defamed, with a federal judge suggesting the former New York mayor may have been dishonest about his finances and expressing concern he might not comply with the judgment.
The latest twist in the defamation case comes just days after Giuliani was ordered to pay $148 million to the two women, Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea "Shaye" Moss. Giuliani had falsely claimed in the wake of the 2020 presidential election that they engaged in a fake ballot processing scheme while they served as election workers.
In a scathing ruling on Wednesday, Judge Beryl Howell questioned Giuliani's objections that he couldn't afford to pay a large monetary award. "Such claims of Giuliani's 'financial difficulties' — no matter how many times repeated or publicly disseminated and duly reported in the media — are difficult to square with the fact that Giuliani affords a spokesperson, who accompanied him daily to trial," Howell wrote.
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Happy Libturds? Who cares about Rudy, Not me!
MAGA
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Happy Libturds? Who cares about Rudy, Not me!
MAGA
Why not you? Hasn't he championed Trump for years and continues to do so? Does he not deserve some credit for his loyalty?
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Why not you? Hasn't he championed Trump for years and continues to do so? Does he not deserve some credit for his loyalty?
Useless fallout. I much prefer his new attorney, and yes she would get railed for hours by me, sexy lady.
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Why not you? Hasn't he championed Trump for years and continues to do so? Does he not deserve some credit for his loyalty?
You would think that someone that provided Trumpy with the lies to tell and took a bullet for him would be revered by the MAGA morons.
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You would think that someone that provided Trumpy with the lies to tell and took a bullet for him would be revered by the MAGA morons.
The MAGA folks are fickle. ;D They have no loyalty to others which is something they learned from their leader who expects absolute loyalty while not being a loyal person himself.
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The MAGA folks are fickle. ;D They have no loyalty to others which is something they learned from their leader who expects absolute loyalty while not being a loyal person himself.
Do you dislike you're own country ?
Why don't you want to Make America Great Again ?
As it's a Fucked up Weirdo / Pedo / Arse fucking / Men pretending to
be women fucking mess Now promoted & supported by Pedo Joe & his Cronies.
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Do you dislike you're own country ?
Why don't you want to Make America Great Again ?
As it's a Fucked up Weirdo / Pedo / Arse fucking / Men pretending to
be women fucking mess Now promoted & supported by Pedo Joe & his Cronies.
Worry about your own country you lying pedo obsessed eurotrash. Leave the US to people who are actually citizens and can vote. :D
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The MAGA folks are fickle. ;D They have no loyalty to others which is something they learned from their leader who expects absolute loyalty while not being a loyal person himself.
Loyalty in politics, HA!
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Loyalty in politics, HA!
People are either loyal or they are not regardless of their political affiliation. This does not mean a group of people (MAGA) cannot be known for their disloyalty or loyalty. Having said this, it is wrong of me to stereotype people affiliated with MAGA. Surely some of them are loyal and others not to Trump.
Anyone can have their devotion challenged given the circumstances. For example, when someone finds themself in a life-threatening situation where their only avenue of escape requires them to abandon their allegiance. Many, if not most folks will do whatever it takes to save their own life, including giving up their loyalty to someone or something.
William Barr was a disgusting absolute Trump 'suck-up' while it was in his best interest. When this was no longer the case, he abandoned his (fake) allegiance to Trump as have many other folks. In Trump's case, someone could argue that turnabout is fair play. As best as I know, Trump has no fidelity to anyone. This helps explain why so many folks are afraid to cross him.
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People are either loyal or they are not regardless of their political affiliation. This does not mean a group of people (MAGA) cannot be known for their disloyalty or loyalty. Having said this, it is wrong of me to stereotype people affiliated with MAGA. Surely some of them are loyal and others not to Trump.
Anyone can have their devotion challenged given the circumstances. For example, when someone finds themself in a life-threatening situation where their only avenue of escape requires them to abandon their allegiance. Many, if not most folks will do whatever it takes to save their own life, including giving up their loyalty to someone or something.
William Barr was a disgusting absolute Trump 'suck-up' while it was in his best interest. When this was no longer the case, he abandoned his (fake) allegiance to Trump as have many other folks. In Trump's case, someone could argue that turnabout is fair play. As best as I know, Trump has no fidelity to anyone. This helps explain why so many folks are afraid to cross him.
Read the first sentence and I say BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My loyalty to my family is unsurpassed my loyalty to the rest of society is NIL. You're WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Try harder next time!
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Oh Rudy.... those last few Scotch soaked brain cells just aren't doing too well.
But then again, we have known that for a while.
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Giuliani Makes Hilarious Attempt to Defend Against Arizona Indictment
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani+Makes+Hilarious+Attempt+to+Defend+Against+Arizona+Indictment
Rudolph Giuliani’s defense against facing criminal charges for his involvement in Arizona’s fake elector plot is not exactly a good one: He’s pointing out other states where he may have committed crimes as well.
“Well, I didn’t spend as much time on Arizona as I did, let’s say, with Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. I know those better,” Donald Trump’s former attorney told Newsmax Thursday night.
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Fruit Rudy is off his rocker.... But crime was at it's lowest under the clown in NYC.
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Do you dislike you're own country ?
Why don't you want to Make America Great Again ?
As it's a Fucked up Weirdo / Pedo / Arse fucking / Men pretending to
be women fucking mess Now promoted & supported by Pedo Joe & his Cronies.
It's complicated for a citizen. even more so for a foreigner. The idea Trump can make America great "again" makes two debatable assumptions. 1. America is not great now. 2. America was great before.
This puts aside the other issue of whether Trump can do anything for anyone other than Trump and has the ability to lead. His 4 previous years tells us that is not the case.
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It's complicated for a citizen. even more so for a foreigner. The idea Trump can make America great "again" makes two debatable assumptions. 1. America is not great now. 2. America was great before.
This puts aside the other issue of whether Trump can do anything for anyone other than Trump and has the ability to lead. His 4 previous years tells us that is not the case.
Youre a tard, go suck pedojoes cock, tard!
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Fruit Rudy is off his rocker.... But crime was at it's lowest under the clown in NYC.
Rudy Giuliani was Mayor of New York City from January 1, 1994, until December 31, 2001. A lot of things change in 23 years, and between age 56 and 79, scotch addictions or not.
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Dude just can't stop getting beaten and battered over his own actions. Well deserved I must say.
He has lost everything. Reputation, credibility, assets, and now his radio show. :D Now he can waste his breath standing on a milk crate on a street corner.
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Radio station suspends Rudy Giuliani and cancels his talk show over 2020 election remarks
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Radio+station+suspends+Rudy+Giuliani+and+cancels+his+talk+show+over+2020+election+remarks
Rudy Giuliani was suspended from WABC radio on Friday and had his show canceled, according to station owner John Catsimatidis.
Catsimatidis, a billionaire and major GOP donor, told NBC News that Giuliani had been warned twice by station management about his on-air comments questioning the legitimacy of the 2020 election on his daily talk show, which he's hosted for three years.
Giuliani's suspension and show cancellation was first reported by The New York Times.
In a letter addressed to Giuliani and obtained by NBC News, Catsimatidis said that Giuliani, who is Donald Trump's former lawyer, was "prohibited from engaging in conversations relating to the 2020 Presidential Election" on his WABC programs.
"These specific topics include, but are not limited to, the legitimacy of the election results, allegations of fraud effectuated by election workers, and your personal lawsuits relating to those allegations,” Catsimatidis wrote in the letter dated Thursday.
The letter cited a recent news article about two Georgia poll workers who were awarded $148 million in damages last year in a defamation lawsuit against Giuliani and are accusing him of making fresh false statements.
"You are now once again stating that there was fraud. You may not do so on our airwaves. This is a clear condition of your continued relationship with WABC. We do not condone these actions, and do not want to be subject to the ramifications of your conduct under any circumstances," Catsimatidis wrote.
The cancellation of the former New York City mayor's show was not preplanned, Catsimatidis told NBC News, adding that he “feels very bad, because he is still America’s mayor, but we need to know where to draw the line.”
Giuliani blasted WABC's actions in a statement Friday.
"This directive is a clear violation of free speech," Giuliani said, arguing that he had not been informed previously about restrictions.
"Obviously I was never informed on such a policy, and even if there was one, it was violated so often that it couldn’t be taken seriously,” Giuliani said.
Giuliani is facing charges in connection with efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia and Arizona. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges in Georgia but has not yet entered a plea in Arizona.
His suspension from WABC comes after some news organizations have been hit with lawsuits from voting machine companies over false statements regarding the 2020 election and the integrity of its results.
Last month, Smartmatic settled its defamation suit against One America News Network out of court. In 2023, Fox News and Dominion Voting Systems reached a $787.5 million settlement agreement over a 2021 lawsuit that claimed the voting machine company was defamed by hosts and guests on Fox News and Fox Business.
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It's complicated for a citizen. even more so for a foreigner. The idea Trump can make America great "again" makes two debatable assumptions. 1. America is not great now. 2. America was great before.
This puts aside the other issue of whether Trump can do anything for anyone other than Trump and has the ability to lead. His 4 previous years tells us that is not the case.
Says the boot licker. ::)
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Poor Rudy. Literally.
"The truth isn't the truth." :D :D :D :D
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Giuliani bankruptcy judge frustrated with case, rebuffs attempt to challenge $148 million judgement
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani+bankruptcy+judge+frustrated+with+case%2C+rebuffs+attempt+to+challenge+%24148+million+judgement
The judge overseeing Rudy Giuliani's bankruptcy case said he was “disturbed” so little progress has been made in sorting out his finances, and refused Tuesday to lift a legal barrier that has kept the former New York City mayor from appealing a $148 million defamation judgment.
Giuliani declared bankruptc y in December after he was ordered to pay the staggering sum to two former election workers for spreading a false conspiracy theory about their role in the 2020 election.
Since then, Giuliani has missed deadlines to file financial disclosure reports. He hasn't succeeded in selling residences in New York and Florida. Last week, he was suspended from WABC Radio, where he had a daily show, over what the station called his repeated violation of a ban on discussing discredited 2020 election claims.
“They have done nothing. They sold nothing. They settled nothing," said Rachel Strickland, an attorney representing the election workers. She accused Giuliani of getting fired on purpose by “deliberately flouting his employer’s restrictions.”
“I agree with you,” U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Sean Lane responded. “And I am disturbed about the status of this case."
Attorneys for Giuliani said he has additional work lined up to bring in money, though they didn't say what kind of work that was. Giuliani's Manhattan apartment could soon be liquidated, they said. His attorneys said issues have been ironed out and necessary financial filings will also be made. Giuliani faces accusations from a slew of people who say he potentially owes them money.
“They finally have, I think, gotten things on track,” said his lawyer, Heath Berger.
The judge rejected a request from Giuliani, though, to lift an automatic stay so that he could pursue post-judgment litigation in the defamation case. Creditors' lawyers argued that doing so would delay the bankruptcy proceeding.
Lane also addressed a request from lawyers for the election workers that Giuliani be barred from making additional defamatory statements against them. While holding off on a decision, Lane said there was already a court decision on the matter and he was "not going to let this court be used as a place where parties can flout the requirements of the law.”
“Tell your client to stop," Lane told lawyers for Giuliani. "It's not complicated.”
Lawyers will meet with the judge again on Thursday to discuss the issue.
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Hahahaha. Rudy… say it isn’t so. After all the bragging and taunting about how you couldn’t be found for the AZ authorities to serve you with the papers, they nailed you at your 80th birthday party with the indictment. In front of 75 guests.
Utter humiliation for Americas Deadbeat. And taking down the taunts isn’t doing much good when they already captured them.
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Fruity Rudy can have another drink or invest in some more hair dye to drown his sorrows...
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Hahahahaha. Too little, too late.
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Giuliani agrees to stop spreading 2020 vote-tampering lies about Georgia election workers
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Giuliani+agrees+to+stop+spreading+2020+vote-tampering+lies+about+Georgia+election+workers
Rudy Giuliani has agreed to never again publicly accuse two Georgia election workers of tampering with votes in the 2020 election, a false accusation that he has repeated frequently and that led to his bankruptcy.
With the agreement, Giuliani is forfeiting a yearslong verbal and legal battle he’s waged with the election workers, Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Shaye Moss. It also gives the women significant power to hold him accountable if Giuliani again publicly suggests they stole votes to hurt former President Donald Trump, which is not true.
A draft of the agreement filed in court Tuesday says Giuliani would be “permanently enjoined from publishing, causing others to publish, and/or assisting in others’ publication of any statements that suggest that Plaintiffs, whether mentioned directly, indirectly, or by implication, engaged in wrongdoing in connection with the 2020 presidential election.”
Attorneys for Freeman and Moss say the agreement would allow them to take Giuliani to court immediately if he repeats potentially defamatory statements.
“Today ends his efforts to profit off of lies about these two heroes of American democracy,” the workers’ attorney Michael Gottlieb said in a statement.
CNN has reached out to Giuliani’s spokesperson for comment.
Freeman and Moss previously sued Giuliani for defamation and won a $148 million judgment against him, which the former mayor of New York has not begun to pay off.
The trial provided a searing glimpse into the harassment election workers suffered while prominent Trump supporters spread lies about the 2020 election. Giuliani is separately facing criminal charges in Georgia and Arizona for his efforts for Trump four years ago, and he has been suspended from practicing law.
Giuliani has pleaded not guilty in both cases, with his arraignment in Arizona taking place earlier Tuesday.
Giuliani is also in Chapter 11 personal bankruptcy, with Freeman, Moss and others pursuing everything he has of value.
The agreement still must be approved by a federal judge.
Beryl Howell, the federal judge in Washington who oversaw Giuliani’s defamation trial, also could “take any steps necessary” to stop the former New York mayor from continuing to potentially defame the women.
The agreement includes Freeman and Moss dropping a second lawsuit they filed against Giuliani on the same day they won the $150 million judgment against him in December, because he continued to make false statements about them.
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