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What are they hiding....again?
Two days after being denied entrance into the Department of Justice and then chased away by protestors, four Republican lawmakers probing the conditions of the inmates arrested in connection with the Jan. 6 breach of the Capitol have been barred from a facility where some 50 of the prisoners are said to be held.
Reps Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) and Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) showed up at the DC Central Detention Facility the morning of July 29. The lawmakers have been inquiring into reports that those involved in the incursion into the Capitol have been severely beaten, held in solitary confinement, and denied access to evidence about their own cases.
The members of Congress were allowed into the lobby, but were quickly told by a corrections officer that they were trespassing.
“You’re obstructing,” the corrections officer could be heard saying on a live broadcast streamed by the Right Side Broadcasting Network (RSBN).
My gosh, the government is upside down,” Gohmert said in response.
The corrections officer indicated to the members of Congress that her supervisor would speak to them outside. But when the lawmakers went outside, they found that they were then locked out of the building in what Gaetz called a “bait and switch.” Gaetz attempted to reenter the facility, but was denied—along with an attorney who was trying to enter to see a client.
“The supervisor came down, was standing right here, but she turned her back on me,” Gohmert said of the situation. “The other one won’t talk to me.”
Gohmert said he and his colleagues gave the facility advanced notice that they would be attending—he didn’t say how far in advance—but they never received a response. He said there shouldn’t be anything preventing members of Congress from examining the facilities over which they have oversight, as he has done numerous times in the past.
The GOP lawmakers expressed dismay at what they said were authoritarian tactics displayed by the Department of Justice and Washington DC Department of Corrections.
We’ve turned a corner. We’re in a totalitarian, Marxist territory here,” Gohmert told RSBN correspondent Liz Willis.
“The federal employees here spent more time taking videos and photos of us than they spent trying to give us the opportunity to do what members of Congress do every month of the year: to review a federal detention facility,” said Gaetz.
“If this is any indication of how they’re treating the prisoners inside, I’m very concerned,” added Greene.
The lawmakers left the facility to go vote on Capitol Hill. Around 1 p.m., they reconvened outside to talk to reporters and others about their experience that morning.
Gohmert proposed the idea of defunding federal facilities that don’t accept congressional oversight, and allocating those funds to local jurisdictions to house federal inmates.
The lawmakers’ failed attempt to enter the DC correction facility comes two days after they were also prohibited from entering the DOJ. On the afternoon of July 27, they held a brief press conference to list a number of unanswered questions they have about the January 6 inmates—before being run off by left-wing protestors.
Gohmert said they haven’t heard back from the DOJ since then, bringing their number of unanswered queries to the DOJ and corrections officials to at least seven.
“The AG and the head of the federal bureau of prisons cannot hide forever. Ultimately, if they won’t answer the door when we go to them, then they’re going to have to come to us,” Gaetz said. “That’s how Congress works.
“The longer they delay in answering these questions, the more suspicious it looks.”
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Why are they in prison if no charges have been filed against them?
Tell us again retard
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Why are they in prison if no charges have been filed against them?
Tell us again retard
Way to avoid the obvious, LoserSomeMore. ::)
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Way to avoid the obvious, LoserSomeMore. ::)
By obvious you mean coach’s dumb ass claim that they are political with no charges against them?
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This is very serious sh*t.
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Another swing and miss on the Gaetz and Greene Strike Out Express.
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Another swing and miss on the Gaetz and Greene Strike Out Express.
You think this is a good thing?
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You think this is a good thing?
It’s a fucking prison. Since when do they let anyone just show up unannounced with no approval and do what they want?
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You think this is a good thing?
Of course he does, LoserSomeMore and his comrade Straw Fag are two of the most brainwashed on the left. Their ideology is completely whack.
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At least a couple of the Reps are brave enough to try to ask some questions.
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Reps Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) and Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) showed up
end of story
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By obvious you mean coach’s dumb ass claim that they are political with no charges against them?
Shut up stupid...even Dos had to explain it to you. Liar
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It’s a fucking prison. Since when do they let anyone just show up unannounced with no approval and do what they want?
You dumb son of a bitch. They were doing their jobs as part of Over sight you dumb fuck.
House Judiciary Committee:
Rep. Gohmert serves on the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security which has jurisdiction over the following subject matters: Federal Criminal Code, drug enforcement, sentencing, parole and pardons, internal and homeland security, Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, prisons, criminal law enforcement, and other appropriate matters as referred by the chairman, and relevant oversight. He also a member of the Courts, Intellectual Property, and the Internet Subcommittee.
The Committee on the Judiciary has been called the lawyer for the House of Representatives because of its jurisdiction over matters relating to the administration of justice in Federal courts, administrative bodies, and law enforcement agencies. The Committee has oversight responsibility for the Department of Justice and Homeland Security, civil and criminal judicial proceedings and Federal courts and judges, issues relating to bankruptcy, espionage, terrorism, the protection of civil liberties, constitutional amendments, immigration and naturalization, interstate compacts, claims against the United States, national penitentiaries, Presidential succession, antitrust law, revision and codification of the statutes of the United States, state and territorial boundary lines and patents, copyrights and trademarks.
House Natural Resources Committee:
Rep. Gohmert serves as the Vice Ranking Member of the House Natural Resources Committee.
He currently serves on the Natural Resources Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. He is also a member of the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests, and Public Lands.
The Committee on Natural Resources considers legislation about American energy production, mineral lands and mining, fisheries and wildlife, public lands, Native Americans, irrigation and reclamation, and oceanography.
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Typical commie dictator behavior. They release violent rapists from prison because of the fake RONA, release 50K rapist refugee's into the country without worry about fake RONA, and bust the balls of these petty criminals while handing violent BLM a "peace prize". ::)
If libtardz had brains they would just shit them out anyways.
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You dumb son of a bitch. They were doing their jobs as part of Over sight you dumb fuck.
House Judiciary Committee:
Rep. Gohmert serves on the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security which has jurisdiction over the following subject matters: Federal Criminal Code, drug enforcement, sentencing, parole and pardons, internal and homeland security, Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, prisons, criminal law enforcement, and other appropriate matters as referred by the chairman, and relevant oversight. He also a member of the Courts, Intellectual Property, and the Internet Subcommittee.
The Committee on the Judiciary has been called the lawyer for the House of Representatives because of its jurisdiction over matters relating to the administration of justice in Federal courts, administrative bodies, and law enforcement agencies. The Committee has oversight responsibility for the Department of Justice and Homeland Security, civil and criminal judicial proceedings and Federal courts and judges, issues relating to bankruptcy, espionage, terrorism, the protection of civil liberties, constitutional amendments, immigration and naturalization, interstate compacts, claims against the United States, national penitentiaries, Presidential succession, antitrust law, revision and codification of the statutes of the United States, state and territorial boundary lines and patents, copyrights and trademarks.
House Natural Resources Committee:
Rep. Gohmert serves as the Vice Ranking Member of the House Natural Resources Committee.
He currently serves on the Natural Resources Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. He is also a member of the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests, and Public Lands.
The Committee on Natural Resources considers legislation about American energy production, mineral lands and mining, fisheries and wildlife, public lands, Native Americans, irrigation and reclamation, and oceanography.
BFD
That doesn't mean these clowns can just show up and demand entry
I'm sure there are a bunch of protocols and requirements that they have to follow (which no doubt they didn't)
I'm even going to bother attempting to explain it to you
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BFD
That doesn't mean these clowns can just show up and demand entry
I'm sure there are a bunch of protocols and requirements that they have to follow (which no doubt they didn't)
I'm even going to bother attempting to explain it to you
That’s exactly what it means, Karl
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That’s exactly what it means, Karl
no it doesn't dumbass
that's why they weren't allowed to enter
Someday soon hopefully Gaetz will see the inside of a prison if that makes you fell any better
dopey phony "coach"
A spokeswoman for the D.C. Department of Corrections said in a statement that the members of Congress arrived “unannounced with an unauthorized camera crew requesting a facility tour.
“By doing so, these officials compromised safety and security operations at the DOC,” the spokeswoman said, adding that all visitors, including public officials, must comply with visitation rules.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-jail-gop/2021/07/29/8362d17e-f096-11eb-bf80-e3877d9c5f06_story.html?variant=116ae929826d1fd3
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no it doesn't dumbass
that's why they weren't allowed to enter
Someday soon hopefully Gaetz will see the inside of a prison if that makes you fell any better
dopey phony "coach"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-jail-gop/2021/07/29/8362d17e-f096-11eb-bf80-e3877d9c5f06_story.html?variant=116ae929826d1fd3
Yes it does, Karl. They can come in unannounced at anytime.
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Yes it does, Karl. They can come in unannounced at anytime.
you're wrong
as always
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you're wrong
as always
You’re completely clueless...COMPLETELY
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Aside from the people attacking each other instead of addressing the actual issue, isn't anyone even the least bit curious about the prison conditions?
I'm definitely curious now, especially after I started reading Andy Ngo's book "Unmasked" about ANTIFA. Countless anarchists have been arrested, released, and had their charges dropped. We're talking tons of crimes far more serious than what happened on 6 January.
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WTF??
https://nypost.com/2021/08/02/capitol-police-officer-kyle-defreytag-dead-of-suicide/
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WTF??
https://nypost.com/2021/08/02/capitol-police-officer-kyle-defreytag-dead-of-suicide/
Nothing to see here people!! Move along, he's been "Hilarried"... ::)
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You dumb son of a bitch. They were doing their jobs as part of Over sight you dumb fuck.
House Judiciary Committee:
Rep. Gohmert serves on the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security which has jurisdiction over the following subject matters: Federal Criminal Code, drug enforcement, sentencing, parole and pardons, internal and homeland security, Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, prisons, criminal law enforcement, and other appropriate matters as referred by the chairman, and relevant oversight. He also a member of the Courts, Intellectual Property, and the Internet Subcommittee.
The Committee on the Judiciary has been called the lawyer for the House of Representatives because of its jurisdiction over matters relating to the administration of justice in Federal courts, administrative bodies, and law enforcement agencies. The Committee has oversight responsibility for the Department of Justice and Homeland Security, civil and criminal judicial proceedings and Federal courts and judges, issues relating to bankruptcy, espionage, terrorism, the protection of civil liberties, constitutional amendments, immigration and naturalization, interstate compacts, claims against the United States, national penitentiaries, Presidential succession, antitrust law, revision and codification of the statutes of the United States, state and territorial boundary lines and patents, copyrights and trademarks.
House Natural Resources Committee:
Rep. Gohmert serves as the Vice Ranking Member of the House Natural Resources Committee.
He currently serves on the Natural Resources Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. He is also a member of the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests, and Public Lands.
The Committee on Natural Resources considers legislation about American energy production, mineral lands and mining, fisheries and wildlife, public lands, Native Americans, irrigation and reclamation, and oceanography.
You stupid ass little midget.... the point of it comes down to they didn't have APPROVAL to visit. Pretty sure it requires... oh I don't know what it is called in Retard Land,... but the rest of us call it an appointment. You don't just swing by a prison like it's grandma's house unannounced.
You really put a lot of work into becoming stupid didn't you?
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You stupid ass little midget.... the point of it comes down to they didn't have APPROVAL to visit. Pretty sure it requires... oh I don't know what it is called in Retard Land,... but the rest of us call it an appointment. You don't just swing by a prison like it's grandma's house unannounced.
You really put a lot of work into becoming stupid didn't you?
Oh boy....smh 🤦♂️
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Aside from the people attacking each other instead of addressing the actual issue, isn't anyone even the least bit curious about the prison conditions?
I wasn't but I am now.
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I wasn't but I am now.
Same here.
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Aside from the people attacking each other instead of addressing the actual issue, isn't anyone even the least bit curious about the prison conditions?
I'm definitely curious now, especially after I started reading Andy Ngo's book "Unmasked" about ANTIFA. Countless anarchists have been arrested, released, and had their charges dropped. We're talking tons of crimes far more serious than what happened on 6 January.
LOL - as soon a bunch of Trumptard Traitors get thrown in jail you're suddenly concerned about prison conditions
fucking hilarious
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LOL - as soon a bunch of Trumptard Traitors get thrown in jail you're suddenly concerned about prison conditions
fucking hilarious
Not really, you fucking retarded moron. Not until you communist cuntfaces told them they couldn't go inside, now everyone is interested, you stupid fucking brainwashed cumbubble.
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Don't worry... the way things are going for Gaetz, he will be able to give us a first hand report on the conditions in the future. :D
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Not really, you fucking retarded moron. Not until you communist cuntfaces told them they couldn't go inside, now everyone is interested, you stupid fucking brainwashed cumbubble.
Ok Closet Case...I'll give you the benefit of the doubt
Go ahead and show me your past posts where you expressed concern for prison conditions for Non-Trumptard Traitors
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cumbubble.
Stealing ;D
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The same people hooting about how it is preventing members of the Oversight Committee from doing their jobs are the exact people crying and complaining about the House Ways and Means Committee trying to do their jobs by getting Trumpy's tax returns.
Cherry picking hypocrites. Nothing new about Trumpturds really.
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The same people hooting about how it is preventing members of the Oversight Committee from doing their jobs are the exact people crying and complaining about the House Ways and Means Committee trying to do their jobs by getting Trumpy's tax returns.
Cherry picking hypocrites. Nothing new about Trumpturds really.
Hey Benito...there is no requirement for a Presidential candidate to turn over their taxes from any year. But regardless, for the last 5 years his taxes have been under constant audit. Here’s the kicker, hypocrite. It doesn’t bother you that portions of his taxes were leaked to the public. Quiet your piehole
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Hey Benito...there is no requirement for a Presidential candidate to turn over their taxes from any year. But regardless, for the last 5 years his taxes have been under constant audit. Here’s the kicker, hypocrite. It doesn’t bother you that portions of his taxes were leaked to the public. Quiet your piehole
Being under audit doesn't exempt anyone from disclosing tax records when ordered.
Also, just for you retard : a 1976 statute, enacted in the wake of the Watergate scandal revelations, requires the Treasury Department to provide “any” tax return requested by the Ways and Means chairman in writing.
Keep crying.
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Being under audit doesn't exempt anyone from disclosing tax records when ordered.
Also, just for you retard : a 1976 statute, enacted in the wake of the Watergate scandal revelations, requires the Treasury Department to provide “any” tax return requested by the Ways and Means chairman in writing.
Keep crying.
Wrong once again Benito
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Ok Closet Case...I'll give you the benefit of the doubt
Go ahead and show me your past posts where you expressed concern for prison conditions for Non-Trumptard Traitors
You're a liberal so I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit....read what I said again....nobody cared until they told we couldn't see it, you stupid fuck.
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Hey Benito...there is no requirement for a Presidential candidate to turn over their taxes from any year. But regardless, for the last 5 years his taxes have been under constant audit. Here’s the kicker, hypocrite. It doesn’t bother you that portions of his taxes were leaked to the public. Quiet your piehole
No one asked THE TRAITOR to turn them over
The House Ways and Means Committee asked The Treasury Department to provide them and here is what the law says about that:
‘Upon written request’ of the chairman of one of the three congressional tax committees, the Secretary ‘shall furnish’ the requested tax information to the Committee,”
fucking moron
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You're a liberal so I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit....read what I said again....nobody cared until they told we couldn't see it, you stupid fuck.
Tell yourself whatever you want closet case
Those clowns have to follow the same rules as everyone else
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Wrong once again Benito
"Prove it" dumb ass.
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You're a liberal so I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit....read what I said again....nobody cared until they told we couldn't see it, you stupid fuck.
They didn't say they couldn't see the prisoners. They said they turned up without a prior appointment and with an unauthorized camera crew in tow.
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The DC Department of Correction later issued a statement saying all its residents are treated the same, regardless of political belief or background.
It went on to say, “Today, congressional officials arrived at the DC Department of Corrections (DOC) Central Detention Facility (CDF) unannounced with an unauthorized camera crew requesting a facility tour. By doing so, these officials compromised safety and security operations at the DOC. Safety and security related to DOC facilities, staff, and residents is a high priority and for that reason DOC has established procedures and protocols related to visits to its facilities. All visitors, which includes family members of residents, attorneys, and public officials, must adhere to the rules and procedures of the DOC.”
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Next time, make an appointment and get approval to bring the camera crew. Simple. Except for Trumpturds.
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"Prove it" dumb ass.
From Forbes 2020
“Presidents aren't required to release their returns to anyone — and the IRS is prohibited from even discussing the existence of any individual president’s return. But to say that presidential tax secrecy is legal isn’t the same thing as saying it’s right.
American presidents, when acting in their private capacity as American taxpayers, are basically above the law — at least during their time in office. And because their taxpaying is the focus of broad and consistent public attention, any problem with their behavior poses an existential threat to the popular consent that makes the tax system function.
The United States needs a law mandating presidential tax disclosure — even if it means giving Trump a pass and imposing it only on future chief executives.
Roles in Tension
Presidents have a dual relationship with the tax system. On one hand, they serve as the nation’s tax collector in chief, supervising the agencies charged with enforcing the tax law. At the same time, however, presidents are themselves taxpayers, subject to the same legal responsibilities as anyone else. In practical terms, this arrangement means that presidents must police their own tax behavior.
In theory, the IRS is keeping tabs on presidents and their taxes. Since 1977, the agency’s internal guidelines have required an annual, automatic audit of returns filed by sitting presidents and vice presidents.”
Forbes isn’t exactly pro Trump
And when I get home I can even cite from Law Firms
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From Forbes 2020
“Presidents aren't required to release their returns to anyone — and the IRS is prohibited from even discussing the existence of any individual president’s return. But to say that presidential tax secrecy is legal isn’t the same thing as saying it’s right.
American presidents, when acting in their private capacity as American taxpayers, are basically above the law — at least during their time in office. And because their taxpaying is the focus of broad and consistent public attention, any problem with their behavior poses an existential threat to the popular consent that makes the tax system function.
The United States needs a law mandating presidential tax disclosure — even if it means giving Trump a pass and imposing it only on future chief executives.
Roles in Tension
Presidents have a dual relationship with the tax system. On one hand, they serve as the nation’s tax collector in chief, supervising the agencies charged with enforcing the tax law. At the same time, however, presidents are themselves taxpayers, subject to the same legal responsibilities as anyone else. In practical terms, this arrangement means that presidents must police their own tax behavior.
In theory, the IRS is keeping tabs on presidents and their taxes. Since 1977, the agency’s internal guidelines have required an annual, automatic audit of returns filed by sitting presidents and vice presidents.”
Forbes isn’t exactly pro Trump
And when I get home I can even cite from Law Firms
No one asked Trump
Congress can see the tax return of ANY person who files a tax return
It doesn't matter if you're a former POTUS and current TRAITOR and SCAM ARTIST
The law still applies
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No one asked Trump
Congress can see the tax return of ANY person who files a tax return
It doesn't matter if you're a former POTUS and current TRAITOR and SCAM ARTIST
The law still applies
Simple facts can't penetrate that Dome O' Delusions that passes as Coachys head.
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The House Ways and Means Committee has express statutory authority to obtain tax returns from the IRS—without having to provide any excuses or reasons for doing so.
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They don't need Trumpys permission. Might want to try another argument Gloria, cause that excuse ain't working.
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As part of the Revenue Act of 1924, it singled out Ways and Means—as well as the Senate Finance Committee and a then-unspecified “special” committee—as having “the right to call on the Secretary of the Treasury for, and it shall be his duty to furnish, any data of any character contained in or shown by the returns . . . that may be required by the committee.”
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Now what? What is your excuse going to be now? You can't cite from law firms because you can't even process the act of reading simple sentences.
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Oh boy
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Oh boy
LOL
Don't worry phony "coach"
Matt Gaetz is likely to see the inside of a jail cell pretty soon and then he can tell the rest of you clowns what the "conditions" are like.
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Yeah... pretty sure you will "cite from law firms" and be more accurate than established authority. ::)
But hey, give it a shot. You are going to be wrong no matter what you post so why not go big?