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Title: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: IroNat on July 30, 2021, 10:30:29 AM
https://twitter.com/USMortality/status/1420866847566565379
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 30, 2021, 10:52:24 AM
I'll take "the vaccine is bullshit" for $100, Mr. Trebek.  :P
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 30, 2021, 11:06:15 AM
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Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: That_Dude on July 30, 2021, 11:16:06 AM
It is encouraging that at least this info was released and not buried or altered for the pro vaccine angle
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 30, 2021, 11:31:56 AM
Ken Dilanian
@KenDilanianNBC
·
Jul 27
New data suggests that fully vaccinated individuals are not just contracting COVID, but could be carrying higher levels of virus than previously understood, facilitating spread, my NBC News colleagues are reporting.  New indoor masking guidance expected today.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: IroNat on July 30, 2021, 11:52:33 AM
Quarantine the vaccinated!
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: G_Thang on July 30, 2021, 11:53:37 AM
Quarantine the vaccinated!

 ;D
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 30, 2021, 11:58:28 AM
Imagine if all along the COVID vaccines were completely ineffective against COVID and instead were being used for another agenda altogether?

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Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: IroNat on July 30, 2021, 12:04:14 PM
Imagine if all along the COVID vaccines were completely ineffective against COVID and instead were being used for another agenda altogether?

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Wow, like a science fiction movie!

Nah, that could never happen...
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 30, 2021, 12:09:14 PM
Imagine if all along the COVID vaccines were completely ineffective against COVID and instead were being used for another agenda altogether?

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Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 30, 2021, 12:18:44 PM
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Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: IroNat on July 30, 2021, 12:34:54 PM
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Joey Retard



Don't blame Sleepy, he's just following orders.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: chaos on July 30, 2021, 06:36:57 PM
Imagine if all along the COVID vaccines were completely ineffective against COVID and instead were being used for another agenda altogether?

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Probably not far from the truth.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: AbrahamG on July 30, 2021, 07:08:53 PM
At the end of the day, 99.2% of recent covid deaths are among the unvaccinated.  I might get the rona but it's highly unlikely that I'll be lodging at the local ER and even less likely that I'll die. 
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 30, 2021, 07:16:20 PM
Quarantine the vaccinated!

lol
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 30, 2021, 07:32:27 PM
At the end of the day, 99.2% of recent covid deaths are among the unvaccinated.  I might get the rona but it's highly unlikely that I'll be lodging at the local ER and even less likely that I'll die.

You just can’t handle that you’ve been worked. That stat you keep posting without a link is old news. Most of the new positives are vaxxed and the number is just going to keep rising. I’m not gonna get on anybody’s who took the vaccine, they had their reasons. But the truth is it’s fucking worthless.


Israel’s COVID outbreak is mostly fully vaccinated people. What’s going on? - Deseret News


https://www.deseret.com/platform/amp/coronavirus/2021/7/20/22584134/whats-going-on-in-israels-outbreak-among-vaccinated-people
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: AbrahamG on July 30, 2021, 07:33:34 PM
You just can’t handle that you’ve been worked. That stat you keep posting without a link is old news. Most of the new positives are vaxxed and the number is just going to keep rising. I’m not gonna get on anybody’s who took the vaccine, they had their reasons. But the truth is it’s fucking worthless.


Israel’s COVID outbreak is mostly fully vaccinated people. What’s going on? - Deseret News


https://www.deseret.com/platform/amp/coronavirus/2021/7/20/22584134/whats-going-on-in-israels-outbreak-among-vaccinated-people

I said deaths, not positives.  Try to pay attention. 
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 30, 2021, 07:36:14 PM
I said deaths, not positives.  Try to pay attention.

Post some stats on these people. I bet they’re all 80 years old and or obese. It wasn’t because they were unvaccinated it was because they were old, sick or fat.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31907066/sources-nationals-phillies-game-postponed-washington-deals-covid-19-outbreak

Martinez said all but one of those who tested positive have been vaccinated
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Grape Ape on July 30, 2021, 07:36:18 PM
At the end of the day, 99.2% of recent covid deaths are among the unvaccinated.  I might get the rona but it's highly unlikely that I'll be lodging at the local ER and even less likely that I'll die.

Legit question.  Here is a quote from a NYPost article today:

Quote
Data updated Friday continued to show a minuscule risk of serious COVID-19 infections among people who’ve been vaccinated — as a former White House coronavirus advisor on Friday called the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s communication strategy a “disaster.”

New figures posted on the CDC’s website showed that just 6,587 — or 0.004 percent — of the 163 million Americans who’ve been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 had suffered serious “breakthrough” infections as of Monday.

Of that total, 6,239 people were hospitalized and 1,263 died, according to the data.

Those numbers amount to 0.0038 percent and less than 0.0008 percent, respectively.

The last sentence shows minute percentages of vaccinated people getting the virus, and even less perishing,  as the Post is using this article to say that the new mask mandates are ridiculous.  Which is fine.

However, it says 1,263 people of the 6,587 who had breakthrough cases did not survive.  That is saying that 19% of those who get breakthrough cases didn't make it?

Are those cases more severe, as that appears insanely worse than the normal survival rates.

Or am I tired and not reading that correctly?
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 30, 2021, 07:39:58 PM
How many fucking times can you move the goalposts? Now we’re down to the vaccine doesn’t stop you from getting infected or spreading it to other people. You might get sick but you won’t get really really sick. And how do we even know that? CNN told me.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: wes on July 30, 2021, 08:32:38 PM
Imagine if all along the COVID vaccines were completely ineffective against COVID and instead were being used for another agenda altogether?

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Ever see the movie "Jacobs Ladder" ?

If not check it out or at least read the reviews on IMDB.

Scary tuff
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: AbrahamG on July 30, 2021, 09:15:27 PM
Legit question.  Here is a quote from a NYPost article today:

The last sentence shows minute percentages of vaccinated people getting the virus, and even less perishing,  as the Post is using this article to say that the new mask mandates are ridiculous.  Which is fine.

However, it says 1,263 people of the 6,587 who had breakthrough cases did not survive.  That is saying that 19% of those who get breakthrough cases didn't make it?

Are those cases more severe, as that appears insanely worse than the normal survival rates.

Or am I tired and not reading that correctly?

Maybe I'm the one who's tired but I'm seeing 1200 deaths out of 163 million vaccinated people.  I'm at peace with my choice and if my doc recommends a booster, I'm going that route as well.  That being said, I don't want to see anyone get sick, suffer, become long haulers or die.  But to family, friends and foes alike if you become ill or die from covid and aren't vaccinated not one tear will be shed.  The exception of course is children who aren't eligible or whose parents didn't get them vaccinated. 
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: WeightPSHR on July 30, 2021, 09:21:29 PM
At the end of the day, 99.2% of recent covid deaths are among the unvaccinated.  I might get the rona but it's highly unlikely that I'll be lodging at the local ER and even less likely that I'll die.

99+% percent of people that are not obese and don't have comorbidities will recover from covid.

Don't get your point here.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: AbrahamG on July 30, 2021, 09:57:58 PM
99+% percent of people that are not obese and don't have comorbidities will recover from covid.

Don't get your point here.

Not my problem.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: WeightPSHR on July 30, 2021, 10:20:29 PM
Not my problem.

I'll enlighten you then...are you aware that over 99% of people that do not have comorbidities or aren't obese will recover from covid?

With that information, why would anyone get vaccinated that is not in a high risk group?
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Flexacon on July 30, 2021, 10:43:11 PM
I think people might be getting confused.

This is what it looks like happened. (Hard to tell without the complete study)

Without either group knowing (blind) one group got 1 dose of the vaccine and one group got a placebo. Both groups were then told what they got (unblinding). The placebo group then got 1 dose of the vaccine. The table gives us the subsequent deaths and causes of both groups.

In short both groups got 1 dose of vaccine.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: IroNat on July 31, 2021, 05:11:54 AM
I'll enlighten you then...are you aware that over 99% of people that do not have comorbidities or aren't obese will recover from covid?

With that information, why would anyone get vaccinated that is not in a high risk group?


This.

However, since 50% of America is obese and 70% overweight that is a lot of folks that should get vaxxed.

Americans be fat, bro.  Then you have all the other risk factors.

People are too vain to consider themselves in the risk groups.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 31, 2021, 05:39:22 AM
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Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 31, 2021, 05:42:13 AM
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Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: hench on July 31, 2021, 06:10:28 AM
I don't want covid and i don't want the fake vaccine, everybody i know that's had the vaccine has felt like shit for a few days to varying degrees. I don't want to deliberately make myself ill even for a few days for a vaccine that can't guarantee i won't still get covid and wont still spread it
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: booty on July 31, 2021, 06:49:14 AM
Imagine if all along the COVID vaccines were completely ineffective against COVID and instead were being used for another agenda altogether?

"1"
You might be onto something!
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: joswift on July 31, 2021, 07:02:56 AM
At the end of the day, 99.2% of recent covid deaths are among the unvaccinated.  I might get the rona but it's highly unlikely that I'll be lodging at the local ER and even less likely that I'll die.

amazing misrepresentation of statistics, 99% of people died of covid before the vaccine was available
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: nzgs on July 31, 2021, 07:34:54 AM
This.

However, since 50% of America is obese and 70% overweight that is a lot of folks that should get vaxxed.

Americans be fat, bro.  Then you have all the other risk factors.

People are too vain to consider themselves in the risk groups.

It is not a vaccine. No one should take it. Not old people, not fat people, no one. It does nothing to fight covid and it introduces a plethora of health issues related to its effect of damaging blood vessels. There are going to thousands perhaps millions of fat and old "vaccinated" people dying this winter as a result of this drug push.

Fat people will drastically reduce their vulnerability to covid by getting their insulin resistance and blood pressure under control via dietary intervention.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 31, 2021, 07:43:56 AM
amazing misrepresentation of statistics, 99% of people died of covid before the vaccine was available

Alabama has the lowest vaccination rate in the country and also the worst health outcomes. So when these people die they’re saying it was because they were unvaccinated when it’s really because they were in the shit health.

However, people that are vaccinated are starting to die and they’re saying it’s because they had comorbidities.




https://www.al.com/opinion/2021/07/archibald-political-panic-pandering-didnt-start-with-a-pandemic.html

Alabama is last in vax rate, the only state with fewer than 40 percent of eligible folks inoculated. Pretty scary as the delta variant of Covid-19 threatens the South.

Alabama is last in physical health, according to America’s Health Rankings, an annual report put out by United Health Foundation.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Megalodon on July 31, 2021, 08:07:30 AM
CNN: Vaccines are resistance training for Covid in order to produce stronger strains of Covid, so everyone must get vaccinated.  ???

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Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 31, 2021, 08:28:12 AM
CNN: Vaccines are resistance training for Covid in order to produce stronger strains of Covid, so everyone must get vaccinated.  ???

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2mfSydX/E7ll8o-FX0-AUYp-AF.jpg)

If you don’t have to get the vaccine, I would still sit tight call the bluff. It seems like it’s starting to step on the money of other industries. This is commercial real estate talking.

I suspect you’re seeing the big push now because the scam is winding down at least in this country.

I got this email from Rite Aid:

“ Every day our teams are working towards helping get our communities protected with the COVID-19 vaccine. This work will continue, but as we move forward, we’ll be ending this weekly email series”



https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/coronavirus/2021/07/28/cuomo-wants-workers-back-in-offices-by-labor-day


Cuomo wants workers back in offices by Labor Day
By Zack Fink New York City
PUBLISHED 5:50 PM ET Jul. 28, 2021

In his strongest push yet to jump-start the state’s economy, Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Wednesday urged companies to get their workers out of their homes and back at their desks.
“Everyone has to be back to the office,” Cuomo said during a virtual announcement at the Association for a Better New York. “I understand remote learning, I understand the trepidation, but the numbers are down, we know how to do it safely. We need private sector companies to say to their employees, ‘I need you back in the office.’” Cuomo wants workers back in offices by Labor Day
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: bhank on July 31, 2021, 08:32:43 AM
Two weeks to slow the spread
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: bhank on July 31, 2021, 08:33:35 AM
I don't want covid and i don't want the fake vaccine, everybody i know that's had the vaccine has felt like shit for a few days to varying degrees. I don't want to deliberately make myself ill even for a few days for a vaccine that can't guarantee i won't still get covid and wont still spread it

This
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 31, 2021, 08:54:45 AM
Moral of the story....

You get the vaccine and you can STILL:

Get COVID

Spread COVID

Die from COVID

What you might be able to appreciate is better odds at fending off the infection.

Of note, there have been numerous adverse & side effects suffered from those having received 1 or 2 doses of the vaccines. Also, as of today (7/31/2021) there have been 6,340 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html)).

I'll take my chances without the vaccine.

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Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: jerseysilverback on July 31, 2021, 08:59:31 AM
Pathetic.  There is one obvious answer.  Ivermectin.   Make it available to all Americans without a prescription.  Encourage people to take it when they are in hot spots as a preventative measure or at the first sign of infection when not in a hot spot.  The Biden admin, big tech, and MSM are guilty of prolonging this pandemic, destroying trillions of dollars of wealth, and killing thousands of people by suppressing this information.     Another lockdown, mandates, and other restrictions only benefit our corrupt leaders.  Put Ivermectin in everyone's hands and get back to normal.   Of course, Ivermectin will not reduce the CCP virus deaths to zero or stop all infections but it is better than anything else out there and will allow us to get back to near normal.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: The Scott on July 31, 2021, 09:01:39 AM
Two weeks to slow the spread

Oh, don't worry.  Given some of your latest pearls of wisdom here,  I think you've gotten your ego pretty well under control.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Zillotch on July 31, 2021, 09:05:21 AM
What you might be able to appreciate is better odds at fending off the infection.

lmfao

as of today there have been 6,340 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine

more... a lot more, with many more to come.

Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: GigantorX on July 31, 2021, 09:13:14 AM
"The Rise of Variants!"

A virus will mutate to stay alive. More transmissible and less dangerous as time goes on. Delta is the first go around with this for SARS-CoV2 on this scale and it's proving nature to be correct.

My apocalypse part of my brain says Marek's disease....or, god forbid, ADE from this mass deployment of a first of its kind un-tested (Adult trials will not conclude until 2023-24) mRNA vaccine/therapy.

Also....anything below a properly fitted and used N95 mask will not work for the stated purpose of source control or protection from an airborne respiratory virus. Comparative data from the last 19 months proves this as does the countless RCT studies available to read.

Masks are as anti-science as one can get.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 31, 2021, 12:20:54 PM
Imagine if all along the COVID vaccines were completely ineffective against COVID and instead were being used for another agenda altogether?

"1"
You must watch Alex Jones. ;D
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 31, 2021, 04:07:49 PM

Brewers lose Hunter Strickland, Jake Cousins to positive COVID tests

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2021/07/31/brewers-lose-hunter-strickland-jake-cousins-positive-covid-tests/5429743001/


"In Cousins’ and Strickland’s case, they reported symptoms. They’re vaccinated individuals that reported symptoms, and Gustave just got caught up in it. He had no symptoms.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 31, 2021, 04:26:40 PM
Bro-Scientists Right Again. 👨‍🎓

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/guy-don-mattingly-tests-positive-for-covid-19-will-miss-series-with-yankees/

Mattingly, 60, is fully vaccinated, the Marlins say, though he is experiencing mild symptoms.

——————-


“But it would’ve been worse had he not been vaccinated.”

“How do you know that?”




Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 31, 2021, 04:40:32 PM
You must watch Alex Jones. ;D

I can't. For the love of God, a 3-4hr screaming rant from Alex Jones is hard to listen to. If he were to cut them down to an hour, I would gladly do so, but not for 3+ hrs.

"1"
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 31, 2021, 04:55:58 PM
They were in an age group that has almost no deaths among those who are healthy, but that’s just nitpicking, isn’t it?😂😂😂




No deaths, few hospitalizations, but 74% of those testing positive for COVID-19 in Cape Cod outbreak were vaccinated - MarketWatch


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-data-shows-that-74-of-people-who-tested-positive-for-the-virus-in-massachusetts-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated-11627665558

• 301, or 87%, of the people who had been vaccinated and tested positive were men; their median age was 42.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: joswift on July 31, 2021, 05:04:43 PM
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/covid-full-data

518,769 Reports of adverse reactions
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 01, 2021, 01:59:16 AM
I can't. For the love of God, a 3-4hr screaming rant from Alex Jones is hard to listen to. If he were to cut them down to an hour, I would gladly do so, but not for 3+ hrs.

"1"
On banned video you can watch him in 10 min clips. ;D
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: kreator on August 01, 2021, 05:56:13 AM
Imagine if all along the COVID vaccines were completely ineffective against COVID and instead were being used for another agenda altogether?

"1"

Yes,they were made so we can travel and experience new places lol

Sheep are in for a rude awakening. The world bank was  collecting orders for testing kits and vaccines from 2016-2018. 
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Marty Champions on August 01, 2021, 07:12:32 AM
Abraham is black right?
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: G_Thang on August 01, 2021, 05:13:28 PM
None of this matters!
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: TheAnimal on August 01, 2021, 05:17:06 PM
None of this matters!
:-\
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Estimated on August 01, 2021, 07:52:30 PM
Guarantee more people would be vaccinated if they just made an attenuated vaccine from a live virus, and not this MRNA experiment they are pushing on everyone.
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: G_Thang on August 01, 2021, 09:45:48 PM
Guarantee more people would be vaccinated if they just made an attenuated vaccine from a live virus, and not this MRNA experiment they are pushing on everyone.

True Story of the Day!
Title: Re: Pfizer study...vaccine vs. placebo
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 02, 2021, 10:50:07 AM
Abraham is black right?
Just like the real Hebrew Abraham.