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Title: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 12:31:58 PM
The wanna be Trump set an new record for Covid hospitalizations

I'm sure it's only a matter of time until Florida schools become the breeding ground for the next variant


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Florida Sees Record Number of COVID Cases, Hospitalizations

MONDAY, Aug. 2, 2021 (HealthDay News) -- Florida reached another grim milestone on Sunday when it broke a previous record for COVID-19 hospitalizations that was set before vaccines were available.


The new hospitalization record came a day after the state recorded the most new daily COVID-19 cases since the start of the pandemic
, the Associated Press reported.

As of Sunday, Florida had 10,207 hospitalized patients with confirmed COVID-19, according to U.S. Department of Health & Human Services data.

The previous record was 10,170 on July 23, 2020, more than six months before vaccinations started becoming widely available, Florida Hospital Association figures show.

Florida now has the most per capita hospitalizations for COVID-19 in the United States, putting a heavy strain on hospitals, the AP reported.

On Saturday, there were a record-setting 21,683 new COVID-19 cases in the state.

Florida averaged 1,525 adult hospitalizations and 35 daily pediatric hospitalizations a day in the past week. Both are the highest per capita rate in the nation, Jason Salemi, an associate professor of epidemiology at the University of South Florida, told the AP.

"The recent rise is both striking and not-at-all surprising," Salemi said.

The more transmissible Delta variant has spread throughout Florida just as residents have resumed pre-pandemic activities. Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has ruled out mandatory mask mandates and vaccine requirements, and on Friday he said that school districts could not require students to wear masks when classes resume next month.

But wearing masks in schools might be a good idea, since there has been an unexpected rise in the number of children with the coronavirus at hospitals in Miami, many of them requiring intensive care, the AP reported.

Memorial Health's Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital in Hollywood had seven patients with COVID-19. At Nicklaus Children's Hospital in Miami, there were 17 patients with COVID-19 on Friday, including six in the ICU and one who needed a ventilator, Dr. Marcos Mestre, vice president and chief medical officer, told the Miami Herald.

About half of the patients were under 12, Mestre said, and the rest were older and eligible for the vaccine. But none of the patients with COVID-19 at Nicklaus Children's on Friday were vaccinated. Most children who get COVID-19 do not need hospitalization, Mestre added.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-08-02/florida-sees-record-number-of-covid-cases-hospitalizations
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 04, 2021, 12:36:42 PM
Hey, they need to lead the nation in something, other than fast food fights...
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 12:37:53 PM
The wanna be Trump set an new record for Covid hospitalizations

I'm sure it's only a matter of time until Florida schools become the breeding ground for the next variant


https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-08-02/florida-sees-record-number-of-covid-cases-hospitalizations


A breeding ground the way New York was, DESPITE having all of those mask mandates and other BS policies put in place by Cuomo, who seems to be in hot water all of a sudden? A year ago, he was the media's darling.

Plus, if Florida is so horrible, explain why all these NYers moving their happy behinds down here. I don't see anyone fleeing the Sunshine State for the safety and tranquility of that "paradise" (especially NYC).

Didn't we just have a "NY Pro" bodybuilding show in Tampa Bay (for the second straight year)?
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 12:39:59 PM
Hey, they need to lead the nation in something, other than fast food fights...

Since this is GETBIG, Florida seems to be leading in place where promoters from blue states move their bodybuilding contests.

NY Pro - It's in Tampa
Chicago Pro - Orlando
Mr. Olympia - Orlando

Correction - Chicago Pro was held in Atlanta.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 04, 2021, 12:40:10 PM
The dirty (year old) masks on everyones stick shift dont do a thing.
Useless. May even be harmful...
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 12:42:04 PM
The dirty (year old) masks on everyones stick shift dont do a thing.
Useless. May even be harmful...

Plus, they can't make up their minds, which masks actually work. Is it the N95 ones that look like beaks? Is it those blue masks? Is it the designer cloth ones (I got a Tampa Bay Bucs one for my birthday)?

DeSantis just ripped Biden, big time, saying that Sleepy Joe is in no position to lecture him about coronavirus, while he and Harris leave the southern border WIDE OPEN, with COVID-plagued illegal aliens jumping the fence, left and right.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 04, 2021, 12:48:16 PM
Another Strawman thread backfire. Fucker likes to be controlled
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 12:53:02 PM
Another Strawman thread backfire. Fucker likes to be controlled

Remind me of the last business that pulled up stakes from Florida to head up north, because of the pandemic again.

When some of my relatives from up north came to visit late last year, they were in utter SHOCK to see how "normal" things were here.

I even mentioned my gym being closed just three months; then they had the whole reservation-for-an-hour thing. That later got dissolved by the end of September.

You guys in Cali were supposed to have WrestleMania 37 this year. But, they moved it to where WM36 was supposed to be in 2020: Raymond James Stadium in Tampa. And don't forget the Mr. Olympia is here (Orlando) AGAIN in October.

If you want to move your contest here, welcome!!  ;D

Almost forgot. Most of this, per Straw's link, is coming from Miami (blue city/county). Big shocker there!!!

Miami-Dade was the last county to open up last year, once the guidelines President Trump OKed were put in place.

DeSantis didn't let the rest of the state suffer and let the mayors do their thing, provided they didn't turn into DeBlasios or Lightfoots.

Jerry Demings (Orange County mayor) actually had some sense last year; but it appears he now wants to get his dictator on. So, DeSantis told him to pound sand.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 12:55:50 PM

A breeding ground the way New York was, DESPITE having all of those mask mandates and other BS policies put in place by Cuomo, who seems to be in hot water all of a sudden? A year ago, he was the media's darling.

Plus, if Florida is so horrible, explain why all these NYers moving their happy behinds down here. I don't see anyone fleeing the Sunshine State for the safety and tranquility of that "paradise" (especially NYC).

Didn't we just have a "NY Pro" bodybuilding show in Tampa Bay (for the second straight year)?

NYC was a breeding ground mostly BEFORE mask mandates and other measures
At present NYC is nowhere near where Florida is and Florida is only going to get worse due to the Trumptard running the state
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 12:56:58 PM
Since this is GETBIG, Florida seems to be leading in place where promoters from blue states move their bodybuilding contests.

NY Pro - It's in Tampa
Chicago Pro - Orlando
Mr. Olympia - Orlando

Yeah, that's because Florida has no restrictions which is also why they just broke their own record for Covid cases

what was your point again..?
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 01:00:38 PM
NYC was a breeding ground mostly BEFORE mask mandates and other measures
At present NYC is nowhere near where Florida is and Florida is only going to get worse due to the Trumptard running the state

The "Trumptard" was running the state last year, when the numbers were (and still are) nowhere near the body count that was in NY. And this was with Cuomo (and DeBlasio) implementing all their shutdowns and mandates. Why did they have more deaths than the rest of the country COMBINED around this time last year?

Again, that would explain all these NY yokels fleeing DOWN HERE. Show me some Floridians fleeing to NY for safety from the virus. Show me the southern businesses, sporting events, and festivals, going up north.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 01:03:13 PM
Yeah, that's because Florida has no restrictions which is also why they just broke their own record for Covid cases

what was your point again..?

They could break their record 10 times and still not be anywhere near New York....WHOSE GOVERNOR (and mayor of the state's largest city) ALREADY IMPLEMENTED the same stupid policies for which you criticized DeSantis for not implementing.

They had mask mandates; they shut down schools and businesses far longer than needed; they stripped Americans of freedom and liberties. Yet, the bodies piled up, to the point where they needed medical ships and barges to help them.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 01:07:14 PM
Dare I mention that Straw is now listening to the same imbeciles who claimed that masks aren't needed if you get the vaccine.

These are also the same morons who bashed DeSantis for PRIORITIZING SENIORS (the group most likely to get and die from this virus, as they did by the literal truckload in NY) to get vaccinated.

Then, there are these same dummies who SCARED non-white people into not getting the vaccines, when Trump was president; but now they want to force those same non-white people to get them, now that Biden is in the Oval Office.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 01:15:47 PM
They could break their record 10 times and still not be anywhere near New York....WHOSE GOVERNOR (and mayor of the state's largest city) ALREADY IMPLEMENTED the same stupid policies for which you criticized DeSantis for not implementing.

They had mask mandates; they shut down schools and businesses far longer than needed; they stripped Americans of freedom and liberties. Yet, the bodies piled up, to the point where they needed medical ships and barges to help them.

Go ahead and post NYC current Covid numbers compared to Florida

Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 01:20:59 PM
Go ahead and post NYC current Covid numbers compared to Florida

Go ahead and show me all the folks leaving Florida to go to NY. Plus, nice attempt at a bait and switch, comparing an entire state to one city.

Per your own article, these cases are mainly in Miami, not the rest of the state. Where are the outbreaks in Jacksonville, Tampa Bay area, the Panhandle region, the Space Coast?

DeSantis was making the vaccines available for everyone here, while imbeciles like Cuomo and other blue state governors, were scaring the willies out of their citizens, saying the vaccines wouldn't even work....at least when Trump was in office.

Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 04, 2021, 01:21:29 PM
Go ahead and post NYC current Covid numbers compared to Florida

I got one. Prove it’s all Chinavirus
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 04, 2021, 01:22:38 PM
Go ahead and post NYC current Covid numbers compared to Florida

Your fantasy cuomosexual hero already killed off all the old people. 
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 01:25:30 PM
Your fantasy cuomosexual hero already killed off all the old people.

Florida has more senior citizens than NY; so, why were all those old people dropping up there instead of down there, DESPITE NY's IMPLEMENTATION of these mandates over which Straw can't stop slobbering?

And, why oh why, do they KEEP COMING DOWN HERE, if NY is so God-Blessed safe?
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 04, 2021, 02:22:03 PM
Remind me of the last business that pulled up stakes from Florida to head up north, because of the pandemic again.

When some of my relatives from up north came to visit late last year, they were in utter SHOCK to see how "normal" things were here.

I even mentioned my gym being closed just three months; then they had the whole reservation-for-an-hour thing. That later got dissolved by the end of September.

You guys in Cali were supposed to have WrestleMania 37 this year. But, they moved it to where WM36 was supposed to be in 2020: Raymond James Stadium in Tampa. And don't forget the Mr. Olympia is here (Orlando) AGAIN in October.

If you want to move your contest here, welcome!!  ;D

Almost forgot. Most of this, per Straw's link, is coming from Miami (blue city/county). Big shocker there!!!

Miami-Dade was the last county to open up last year, once the guidelines President Trump OKed were put in place.

DeSantis didn't let the rest of the state suffer and let the mayors do their thing, provided they didn't turn into DeBlasios or Lightfoots.

Jerry Demings (Orange County mayor) actually had some sense last year; but it appears he now wants to get his dictator on. So, DeSantis told him to pound sand.

Our state is already screwed it was screwed before Newsom although I must say Newsom also makes Brown look like a Republican and if Newsom keeps his post in September, we’ll be totally fucked. With zero science backing it, Garcetti mandated masks just in time for schools to reopen in LA. On the Newsom front, his recall is coming up September 14 and his using the fake numbers of increasing Chinavirus numbers to justify mail in ballots. Because he’s Governor, he also has unlimited funding while his opponents have to limit campaign funds....stay tuned
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 02:22:57 PM
Go ahead and show me all the folks leaving Florida to go to NY. Plus, nice attempt at a bait and switch, comparing an entire state to one city.

Per your own article, these cases are mainly in Miami, not the rest of the state. Where are the outbreaks in Jacksonville, Tampa Bay area, the Panhandle region, the Space Coast?

DeSantis was making the vaccines available for everyone here, while imbeciles like Cuomo and other blue state governors, were scaring the willies out of their citizens, saying the vaccines wouldn't even work....at least when Trump was in office.

Go ahead and post NYC current Covid numbers compared to Florida

or you can just admit that you're a liar and that's fine too
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 02:24:06 PM
Go ahead and show me all the folks leaving Florida to go to NY. Plus, nice attempt at a bait and switch, comparing an entire state to one city.

Per your own article, these cases are mainly in Miami, not the rest of the state. Where are the outbreaks in Jacksonville, Tampa Bay area, the Panhandle region, the Space Coast?

DeSantis was making the vaccines available for everyone here, while imbeciles like Cuomo and other blue state governors, were scaring the willies out of their citizens, saying the vaccines wouldn't even work....at least when Trump was in office.

When did I ever say that

Why are you avoiding supporting your claim ?

Go ahead and post NYC current Covid numbers compared to Florida
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: IroNat on August 04, 2021, 02:41:48 PM
The rise in Florida cases has been explained by climate.
Right now in Florida it is hotter than blazes so people are staying indoors in air conditioning.
Congregating indoors has caused an increase in Covid infections.
In contrast, people in NY are outside most of the time which lessens infection rates.
It's predicted this will flip-flop when cold weather returns to northern states and mild weather returns to Florida.

NY: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/new-york

FL: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/florida
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Grape Ape on August 04, 2021, 02:49:37 PM
The rise in Florida cases has been explained by climate.
Right now in Florida it is hotter than blazes so people are staying indoors in air conditioning.
Congregating indoors has caused an increase in Covid infections.
In contrast, people in NY are outside most of the time which lessens infection rates.
It's predicted this will flip-flop when cold weather returns to northern states and mild weather returns to Florida.

NY: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/new-york

FL: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/florida

This is something I saw weeks ago, and it makes total directional sense.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: IroNat on August 04, 2021, 02:51:55 PM
This is something I saw weeks ago, and it makes total directional sense.

I heard it today on a podcast.  It's logical.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 03:15:38 PM
The rise in Florida cases has been explained by climate.
Right now in Florida it is hotter than blazes so people are staying indoors in air conditioning.
Congregating indoors has caused an increase in Covid infections.
In contrast, people in NY are outside most of the time which lessens infection rates.
It's predicted this will flip-flop when cold weather returns to northern states and mild weather returns to Florida.

NY: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/new-york

FL: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/florida

explained by who again ?

So you're saying it's just the climate that causing Florida to have a higher hospitalization rate now than then did at this same time last year...even though we have vaccines now and didn't have them last year

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 03:22:46 PM
Sorry, my bad.  I didn't post the latest info

This is from today

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Florida COVID update Wednesday: 16,935 new cases, hospitalizations break record for 3rd day

Florida reported 16,935 new COVID cases, 140 deaths and more than 12,000 people hospitalized in the state as of Tuesday, the third day in a row of record-breaking COVID hospitalizations as Florida hospitals temporarily suspend elective surgeries to conserve staff and make room for infected patients, the majority of them younger and unvaccinated.

The high number of hospitalizations has not been seen since the surge last July, the worst month for Florida COVID hospitalizations since the pandemic began 17 months ago.

Florida, which represents about 6.5% of the U.S. population, accounted for about 15% of the country’s new cases on Tuesday, based on the data the state is reporting to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The state’s seven-day average of new cases was 17,756 as of Aug. 3, up from a seven-day average of 2,195 on July 3, a 700 percent increase.

The state set a single-day record of new cases for Friday, July 30, when it reported 21,683 new COVID cases to the CDC on Saturday.

January was the worst month of the Florida pandemic, with daily case counts routinely topping 10,000. That followed a surge in July 2020, when daily case counts and hospitalizations also topped 10,000, as there was not a vaccine yet. The latter half of July 2021 and early August has been Florida’s third COVID-19 surge.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253255273.html
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 04, 2021, 04:21:34 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-biden-do-job-secure-border
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 04:40:06 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-biden-do-job-secure-border

I guess DeSantis believes that illegal immigrants are coming in from Mexico and travelling all the way across the country to drive up COVID cases in Florida

fucking moron
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 05:39:53 PM
I guess DeSantis believes that illegal immigrants are coming in from Mexico and travelling all the way across the country to drive up COVID cases in Florida

fucking moron

Once they get here, they spread everywhere. I know you're not stupid enough to think they just stay in Texas or the other southwestern states.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 05:41:45 PM
Once they get here, they spread everywhere. I know you're not stupid enough to think they just stay in Texas or the other southwestern states.

sure they do

and they all went to Florida and that's why the COVID cases are higher than they've ever been

right?

So you're saying the Florida hospitals are giving free health care to illegal immigrants with Covid?

Why would DeSantis do that?

Do you see how fucking stupid you appear to be?
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 05:43:29 PM
When did I ever say that

Why are you avoiding supporting your claim ?

Go ahead and post NYC current Covid numbers compared to Florida

Once again, you try your pathetic bait and switch, comparing ONE city to an entire state.

The people leaving NY and coming to Florida tell the story.

NY already did what you're whining about DeSantis not doing in FL. So, explain all those dead bodies in NY.

BTW, most of the cases are from MIAMI, despite nearly three-quarters of their population being vaccinated.

Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 05:49:32 PM
Once again, you try your pathetic bait and switch, comparing ONE city to an entire state.

The people leaving NY and coming to Florida tell the story.

NY already did what you're whining about DeSantis not doing in FL. So, explain all those dead bodies in NY.

You're the one who brought up NY dumbass

I never mentioned it

This thread is about the disaster that DiSantis has created in Florida

I wonder how soon we'll see a huge outbreak in Florida schools

Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 05:56:08 PM
You're the one who brought up NY dumbass

I never mentioned it

This thread is about the disaster that DiSantis has created in Florida

I wonder how soon we'll see a huge outbreak in Florida schools

The same way imbeciles like you predicted utter doom and gloom last year, when Florida reopened. It didn't happen, not even close.

My kids' school will be open, full time this year unlike last year.

I brought up NY to dismember your stupid take from the get-go. Every thing you keep whining about FL not doing, NY already DID and failed miserably, leading the nation in deaths.

DeSantis didn't create any disaster. He made vaccines available when lame-brains like you utterly dismissed vaccines.....while Trump was still in office. He reopened businesses, which is why people from up north keep fleeing down here.

He prioritized senior citizens, the most vulnerable to the coronavirus. Numbskulls like you called him "racist" claiming he was only giving vaccinations to red counties.

DeSantis let the mayors do their thing, unless they turned DeBlasio; then he reigned them in.

Most importantly, he didn't punish the entire state, simply because certain counties, namely Miami-Dade, were (and still are) having the highest cases. Miami was the last to re-open last year, justifiably so.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 06:00:17 PM
The same way imbeciles like you predicted utter doom and gloom last year, when Florida reopened. It didn't happen, not even close.

I brought up NY to dismember your stupid take from the get-go. Every thing you keep whining about FL not doing, NY already DID and failed miserably, leading the nation in deaths.

DeSantis didn't create any disaster. He made vaccines available when lame-brains like you utterly dismissed vaccines.....while Trump was still in office. He reopened businesses, which is why people from up north keep fleeing down here.

He prioritized senior citizens, the most vulnerable to the coronavirus. Numbskulls like you called him "racist" claiming he was only giving vaccinations to red counties.

DeSantis let the mayors do their thing, unless they turned DeBlasio; then he reigned them in.

Most importantly, he didn't punish the entire state, simply because certain counties, namely Miami-Dade, were (and still are) having the highest cases. Miami was the last to re-open last year, justifiably so.

Yep, you brought up NY and then failed to support you claim and then tried to change the subject

Just like you idiots always do

Meanwhile in Florida they have more people in the hospital with COVID than they did at this time last year when there was no vaccine

And it's going to get worse before it gets better
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 06:07:42 PM
Yep, you brought up NY and then failed to support you claim and then tried to change the subject

Just like you idiots always do

Meanwhile in Florida they have more people in the hospital with COVID than they did at this time last year when there was no vaccine

And it's going to get worse before it gets better

I didn't change the subject at all. You're bashing DeSantis for not following in the footsteps of communist-lite blue state governors.

So, what better way to shred apart your silliness than to take your poster boy for supposedly handling the virus and show his utter failure for all to see.

Are mask mandates going to stop this? It didn't in NY.

Are closing down schools going to stop it? It didn't in NY.

Are shutting down businesses for nearly a year going to work. NY tried it; hence he have everything from conventions to bodybuilding contests, moving here almost in legion.

Had there been vaccines earlier last year (lefties swore there'd be no vaccines for at least another two years), NY would have mandated them then.....and that would have been ineffective, too.

Florida has more people and more old people than NY; (21.5M vs. 19.5 and 4.5M vs. 3.2M, respectively) yet NY leads in deaths, DESPITE all the draconian measuring about which you  wail to have DeSantis implement in FL.

Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 06:16:42 PM
Even your own bait-and-switch game betrays you. NYC has 33,000 coronavirus deaths; the entire state of FL has 39000.

And what place had more draconian, freedom-stripping coronavirus laws than NYC?
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 06:36:14 PM
I didn't change the subject at all. You're bashing DeSantis for not following in the footsteps of communist-lite blue state governors.

So, what better way to shred apart your silliness than to take your poster boy for supposedly handling the virus and show his utter failure for all to see.

Are mask mandates going to stop this? It didn't in NY.

Are closing down schools going to stop it? It didn't in NY.

Are shutting down businesses for nearly a year going to work. NY tried it; hence he have everything from conventions to bodybuilding contests, moving here almost in legion.

CA and NY both required masks in all indoor setting until early mid June (at least in CA and of course we now have to wear masks again that to the unvaccinated)

Florida never required masks indoors as far as I know (or if they did they stopped in long before CA)

I was talking to a friend who lives in Florida a month or so ago and she said there were zero restrictions (which she thought was awesome at the time)

And of course DeSantis was raising money by mocking Covid and the vaccine so it's not really a surprise that the residents of his shithole state wouldn't take it seriously

Meanwhile Florida has more hospitalizations now than they have ever had

I guess it's just all those illegal immigrants who brought Covid in from Mexico

It so nice of DeSantis to give them all free healthcare

Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 06:39:42 PM
Even your own bait-and-switch game betrays you. NYC has 33,000 coronavirus deaths; the entire state of FL has 39000.

And what place had more draconian, freedom-stripping coronavirus laws than NYC?

you're the one that brought NY into the conversation..remember ?

I understand why you want to shift the conversation to total deaths so you can avoid having to address what is currently happening

We all know that deaths in NY were extremely high in the beginning due to all the nursing homes and similar facilities where this thing ran wild before anyone had a clue how contagious it was

What's your excuse again for why FLORIDA NOW has more hospitalization (and growing larger daily) than it has ever had?
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 06:44:58 PM
CA and NY both required masks in all indoor setting until early mid June (at least in CA and of course we now have to wear masks again that to the unvaccinated)

Florida never required masks indoors as far as I know (or if they did they stopped in long before CA)

Yet, that had absolutely NO effect on the amount of deaths or cases.


I was talking to a friend who lives in Florida a month or so ago and she said there were zero restrictions (which she thought was awesome at the time)

Your friend was dead wrong. I actually live in Florida and I had to deal with TWO lefty mayors (Orlando and Orange County). We did have restrictions, among them were:

- Curfews
- Mask Mandates
- Partially opened schools (If your school was closed, you had to pick a virtual school, unless you registered to homeschool)
- Business closures

And of course DeSantis was raising money by mocking Covid and the vaccine so it's not really a surprise that the residents of his shithole state wouldn't take it seriously

Meanwhile Florida has more hospitalizations now than they have ever had

I guess it's just all those illegal immigrants who brought Covid in from Mexico

It so nice of DeSantis to give them all free healthcare

Our state is such a s---hole, we can't keep NYers (and other blue state idiots) from fleeing here en masse. The cover of my latest MD magazine has the guy who won the NY Pro...held in Tampa....AGAIN!!

Did I mention the Olympia is here again? Or WrestleMania got moved fro CA to FL?

As for DeSantis, he led the charge to get our most vulnerable folks (seniors) vaccinated, to which left-winged imbeciles claim it was racism because supposedly only red counties were getting them.

That reminds me, most of the people not getting the vaccine are BLACK people, 90% of whom vote Dem. Latinos vote Dem two-thirds of the time; and their vax rates are low, too.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 06:49:06 PM
you're the one that brought NY into the conversation..remember ?

I understand why you want to shift the conversation to total deaths so you can avoid having to address what is currently happening

We all know that deaths in NY were extremely high in the beginning due to all the nursing homes and similar facilities where this thing ran wild before anyone had a clue how contagious it was

What's your excuse again for why FLORIDA NOW has more hospitalization (and growing larger daily) than it has ever had?

I didn't shift the conversation. The numbers tear your argument apart. Your whole DeSantis bash-fest is about him not copying idiots like Cuomo, Whitmer, and other left wing governors with their restrictive COVID policies (as if you need to be told from ON HIGH not to herd seniors with a potentially deadly disease into nursing homes).

Showing the state with THE MOST RESTRICTIVE policies being a complete and utter failure burns your quip to the ground.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 07:09:42 PM
Yet, that had absolutely NO effect on the amount of deaths or cases.

Your friend was dead wrong. I actually live in Florida and I had to deal with TWO lefty mayors (Orlando and Orange County). We did have restrictions, among them were:

- Curfews
- Mask Mandates
- Partially opened schools (If your school was closed, you had to pick a virtual school, unless you registered to homeschool)
- Business closures

Our state is such a s---hole, we can't keep NYers (and other blue state idiots) from fleeing here en masse. The cover of my latest MD magazine has the guy who won the NY Pro...held in Tampa....AGAIN!!

Did I mention the Olympia is here again? Or WrestleMania got moved fro CA to FL?

As for DeSantis, he led the charge to get our most vulnerable folks (seniors) vaccinated, to which left-winged imbeciles claim it was racism because supposedly only red counties were getting them.

That reminds me, most of the people not getting the vaccine are BLACK people, 90% of whom vote Dem. Latinos vote Dem two-thirds of the time; and their vax rates are low, too.

Now I know why have such a hard on for DeSantis

Yes, Florida is a shithole and you're a pile of shit which explains why you live there

Now you're blaming black people for Florida's problems

I hope DeSantis does that next too

Do you think your shithole state will break another record tomorrow.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 07:10:52 PM
Now I know why have such a hard on for DeSantis

Yes, Florida is a shithole and you're a pile of shit which explains why you live there

Now you're blaming black people for Florida's problems

I hope DeSantis does that next too

Do you think your shithole state will break another record tomorrow.

The only problem with Florida is keeping liberal numbnuts like YOU out, when you screw up your states. Instead of cleaning up your messes, you run your cowardly hind parts down here.

You're the one labeling people not getting vaccinated or not taking coronavirus "seriously" as "Trumptards". Yet, most of the people not getting vaxxed didn't vote for Trump. Since I didn't blame anyone for Florida's problems, another stupid quip of yours bites the dust.

The people moving their businesses and families here...INCLUDING blue governors who locked down their own states, tells how great Florida is. Example: IL governor Pritzker locked down his state but NOT before making sure his family was in.......FLORIDA!!!! Michigan governor did the same thing. She barred people from going out of state, while she traveled to.......FLORIDA (supposedly to visit her sick daddy).

If I had the money at the time, I could have gone to the 2020 Mr. Olympia, Super Bowl 55, and WrestleMania 37 without driving for more than 90 minutes.

All these libs just can't keep their sorry backsides away. Sadly, between DeBlasio's stupid mandate and Cuomo's ongoing buffoonery, more of those goofs will be heading down here.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 04, 2021, 07:30:43 PM
Reading this and I see just how seriously mentally fucked up Strawman really is.I sincerely mean this. I mean this guy is mental. Not once have I seen him blame China not once have I seen him use any commonsense about Biden’s open border policy where hundreds of thousands Chinavirus infected immigrants are crossing, being put on planes and busses being resettled. This fucktard is REALLY that stupid to not even address the obvious.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 07:36:04 PM
Reading this and I see just how seriously mentally fucked up Strawman really...I sincerely mean this. I mean this guy is mental. Not once have I seen him blame China not once have I seen him use any commonsense about Biden’s open border policy where hundreds of thousands Chinavirus infected immigrants are crossing, being put on planes and busses being resettled. This fucktard is REALLY that stupid to not even address the obvious.

Common sense and Straw go together like peanut butter and motor oil.

I'm still wonder what magical policies he expects DeSantis to implement that have been demonstrated to work. Lord knows it ain't the ones from the NY (or the other northeast states), MI, or IL.

Did I mention those screwball governors who locked down their states, only to haul their heinies down to FLORIDA?


Someone who mocked coronavirus and died is a "Trumptard"; someone who masked up, vaxxed up, yet kicked the bucket anyway......
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 04, 2021, 08:17:05 PM
The only problem with Florida is keeping liberal numbnuts like YOU out, when you screw up your states. Instead of cleaning up your messes, you run your cowardly hind parts down here.

You're the one labeling people not getting vaccinated or not taking coronavirus "seriously" as "Trumptards". Yet, most of the people not getting vaxxed didn't vote for Trump. Since I didn't blame anyone for Florida's problems, another stupid quip of yours bites the dust.

The people moving their businesses and families here...INCLUDING blue governors who locked down their own states, tells how great Florida is. Example: IL governor Pritzker locked down his state but NOT before making sure his family was in.......FLORIDA!!!! Michigan governor did the same thing. She barred people from going out of state, while she traveled to.......FLORIDA (supposedly to visit her sick daddy).

If I had the money at the time, I could have gone to the 2020 Mr. Olympia, Super Bowl 55, and WrestleMania 37 without driving for more than 90 minutes.

All these libs just can't keep their sorry backsides away. Sadly, between DeBlasio's stupid mandate and Cuomo's ongoing buffoonery, more of those goofs will be heading down here.

Why would I ever want to visit shithole where you live

It's hilarious that you think WrestleMania is some selling point

How about I give you a break for tonight and I'll check back tomorrow and see if your shithole state breaks their own Covid hospitalization rate again

Hey did you buy your T-shirt yet?

Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 08:33:42 PM
Why would I ever want to visit shithole where you live

It's hilarious that you think WrestleMania is some selling point

How about I give you a break for tonight and I'll check back tomorrow and see if your shithole state breaks their own Covid hospitalization rate again

Hey did you buy your T-shirt yet?

I prefer the bumper sticker, "Don't New York my Florida".

I don't want you in Florida, one less liberal doofus about which to worry.

I was here when imbeciles like you predicted doom and gloom for us last year.

I'll be here when this passes; Florida is still the place to be; and you keep posting utter stupidity.

As for WrestleMania, apparently California wanted a piece of it, which is why they booked it in SoFi stadium originally. Of course, thanks to their coronavirus idiocy, it ended up being here in Florida. The Super Bowl is also supposed to be in SoFi Stadium in 2022.

But, if Cali goons that up, we'll host the Super Bowl again. And, there's a great chance my favorite team will be there to win AGAIN!!!

You and lefties like you can stay where you are, less of a nuisance. And take some of your boneheaded blue-state buddies back, while you're at it.

Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on August 04, 2021, 09:44:59 PM
Now I know why have such a hard on for DeSantis

Yes, Florida is a shithole and you're a pile of shit which explains why you live there

Now you're blaming black people for Florida's problems

I hope DeSantis does that next too

Do you think your shithole state will break another record tomorrow.
You live in San Jose California, you have absolutely zero room to call any other state or town a shithole. You're part of the problem, you are a piece of shit and a cowardly sheep that follows your masters orders. LOSER.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 04, 2021, 09:58:36 PM
You live in San Jose California, you have absolutely zero room to call any other state or town a shithole. You're part of the problem, you are a piece of shit and a cowardly sheep that follows your masters orders. LOSER.

I KNEW IT!! He either lived in NY or California.

Covid Hospitalizations In California Up 97% In Past 10 Days; Case Rate Among Unvaccinated Residents Up 60%

https://deadline.com/2021/08/california-covid-hospitalizations-up-ninety-seven-percent-1234809398/

No wonder he didn't want to talk about the policies that DeSantis is supposed to implement. He's got that fool Gavin Newsom, who may end up being replaced with the artist formerly known as Bruce Jenner.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 04, 2021, 10:46:59 PM
lol....

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSLDOPELff9/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 05, 2021, 03:58:07 AM
Libturdz will direct their hate to Ron DeSan.

They need to HATE on someone who dares defy their puppet-like Commie-Marxism.   ;D

Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 05, 2021, 03:59:26 AM
Libturds shitting on DeSan, but not commenting on Biden shuffling COVE+ illegals all over the Kvntry?

Libz???

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DeSantis to Biden: 'I don't want to hear blip about COVID from you' until you do your job and secure border
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 05, 2021, 04:04:34 AM
Wait, what? Straw you live in CA and are worried about FLA??

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Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: IroNat on August 05, 2021, 04:16:14 AM
explained by who again ?

So you're saying it's just the climate that causing Florida to have a higher hospitalization rate now than then did at this same time last year...even though we have vaccines now and didn't have them last year

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense  ::) ::)

Yep, it does make sense.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 05, 2021, 07:43:19 AM
lol....

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSLDOPELff9/?utm_medium=copy_link

NY and NJ each with nearly 300 deaths per 100K people.....and they had/have the STRICTEST lockdown policies in the country.

No wonder their folks keep fleeing down here to Florida. Steve and Bev may want to change their show to the Tampa Bay Pro, not to be confused with the Tampa Pro. They can always move their show across the Franklin bridge to my childhood home of St. Petersburg.  ;D

BTW, 6 in 10 Latinos and 7 in 10 Blacks in NYC are not vaccinated. Doesn't that make DeBlasio's "Mark of the Beast" vaccine mandate.....RACIST?

Wait, what? Straw you live in CA and are worried about FLA??

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This goof lives in a state in which one of its major cities LITERALLY is a "s---hole"!!!

He's not worried about FL? He's worried about DESANTIS, as are many media and political types on the left. If Trump doesn't run in 2024, DeSantis is the next favorite to come after Sleepy Joe.

Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 05, 2021, 01:03:32 PM
Wait, what? Straw you live in CA and are worried about FLA??

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We have twice as many people as Florida

Also, you're citing numbers for the entire pandemic

Do you need me to explain further?
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 05, 2021, 01:05:37 PM
Florida keeps breaking it's own records

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Florida leads the nation in new Covid-19 adult and child hospital admissions



The state of Florida leads the nation in the number of adults and children admitted into the hospital with confirmed cases of Covid-19, data from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention shows. 

The latest CDC data, published Thursday, shows that at least 2,065 adults and 47 children were admitted with Covid-19 into Florida hospitals since the previous day. Texas trailed behind Florida with at least 1,318 adults and 40 pediatric Covid-19 hospitalization admissions.

Florida also leads the nation in the total number of children hospitalized with confirmed Covid-19 cases. CDC data shows at least 143 children are hospitalized in Florida, with 140 children hospitalized in Texas.

As for total adult Covid-19 hospitalizations, Florida leads the nation with 12,373 patients, followed by Texas with 7,727, according to the latest CDC data.

In recent weeks, Florida has led the nation in the number of new Covid-19 cases reported, accounting for about 1 in 5 new cases, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 05, 2021, 01:09:11 PM
Yep, it does make sense.

Then why was their last peak in cases in January 2021

It's it summer in January too?

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The state’s three highest days of new COVID cases, preceding Wednesday’s totals, all occurred during Florida’s peak in January: 19,816 cases on Jan. 7; 19,530 cases on Jan. 8; and 17,783 cases recorded on Jan. 6, according to state data.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253119138.html
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 05, 2021, 06:12:26 PM
We have twice as many people as Florida

Also, you're citing numbers for the entire pandemic

Do you need me to explain further?

Yep. Explain how you got all those deaths during the entire pandemic, DESPITE Newsom's implementation all the lockdown/shutdown/mask mandates about which you're railing against DeSantis for not implementing.

You might also want to explain....WHY YOUR GOVERNOR IS ON THE BRINK of being RECALLED, if he's doing such a bang-up job at handling the coronavirus.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 05, 2021, 08:32:37 PM
Yep. Explain how you got all those deaths during the entire pandemic, DESPITE Newsom's implementation all the lockdown/shutdown/mask mandates about which you're railing against DeSantis for not implementing.

You might also want to explain....WHY YOUR GOVERNOR IS ON THE BRINK of being RECALLED, if he's doing such a bang-up job at handling the coronavirus.

Newsom destroyed lives and businesses
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Grape Ape on August 05, 2021, 08:34:45 PM
Newsom destroyed lives and businesses

And went out to dinner maskless after locking everyone down, lied about it, then apologized.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 05, 2021, 09:39:51 PM
And went out to dinner maskless after locking everyone down, lied about it, then apologized.

Yep
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: loco on August 06, 2021, 05:30:01 AM
HOLY COW!!!!   :D

This has been the most entertaining thread I've read at getbig.com in a long time.  Totally enjoying watching the legendary MCWAY mopping the floor with Straw Man.  Epic thread backfire. 

Please go on. 

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Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Straw Man on August 06, 2021, 10:47:15 AM
Yep. Explain how you got all those deaths during the entire pandemic, DESPITE Newsom's implementation all the lockdown/shutdown/mask mandates about which you're railing against DeSantis for not implementing.

You might also want to explain....WHY YOUR GOVERNOR IS ON THE BRINK of being RECALLED, if he's doing such a bang-up job at handling the coronavirus.

CA's per capital death rate for the entire pandemic is lower than FL

And of course the current status is all that ever matters

how does CA to compare to the shithole you live in right now?

The recall was driven by Trumptards (I saw them myself with their petitions all over the bay area) as you well know

Would you like to bet on who is going to win the recall election?
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on August 06, 2021, 11:35:11 AM
CA's per capital death rate for the entire pandemic is lower than FL

And of course the current status is all that ever matters

how does CA to compare to the shithole you live in right now?

The recall was driven by Trumptards (I saw them myself with their petitions all over the bay area) as you well know

Would you like to bet on who is going to win the recall election?

The comparison is simple: People and businesses are fleeing TO our state and FROM yours.

Not to mention, one of your famous cities LITERALLY IS a s---hole. You actually need a map to avoid the crap.

Newsom is being recalled, in large part, for how he handled the coronavirus. Excessive lockdowns, shutdowns, and mandates......everything about which you wail at DeSantis for not doing.

And, as I posted earlier, California is HARDLY the beacon of coronavirus safety. If it were, CA's numbers wouldn't be what they are AT ANY POINT during the pandemic.

Earlier, you claimed that FL either didn't have indoor mask mandates or ended them much sooner than CA did. You are correct on the latter. But, that nukes your entire premise. If Cali has had all these restrictions, far longer and far more draconian in scope, explain all those bodies piled up from the coronavirus.

When all that dying occurs makes no difference. It shouldn't have happened AT ALL (not to the degree that it has), if Newson's policies were so effective.

Your state is run TOP TO BOTTOM by libs, with arguably THE MOST left-winged governor of all time at the helm. Yet, it's the fault of the "Trumptards" that Newsom could be headed to the unemployment line? PLEASE!!!!
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 06, 2021, 12:05:59 PM
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Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: loco on October 27, 2021, 06:33:44 AM
Florida now has America's lowest COVID rate

Which U.S. state has the lowest COVID-19 rate right now?

It’s not California, home of America’s strictest mask and vaccine requirements. Nor is it Vermont, even though 71 percent of residents there have been fully inoculated — the most in the country.

No, the state with the fewest daily COVID cases per capita is the same one that recently had more than any other: Florida.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-now-has-americas-lowest-covid-rate-does-ron-de-santis-deserve-credit-090013615.html
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 27, 2021, 08:43:51 AM
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Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on October 27, 2021, 09:46:07 AM
Florida now has America's lowest COVID rate

Which U.S. state has the lowest COVID-19 rate right now?

It’s not California, home of America’s strictest mask and vaccine requirements. Nor is it Vermont, even though 71 percent of residents there have been fully inoculated — the most in the country.

No, the state with the fewest daily COVID cases per capita is the same one that recently had more than any other: Florida.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-now-has-americas-lowest-covid-rate-does-ron-de-santis-deserve-credit-090013615.html

But, But, but.....DeSantis won't do mask mandates; we're supposed to be dropping like Egypt's firstborn with no lamb's blood.

It's appears to be as number of medical experts (that is, the ones that aren't bureaucrats in DC) have stated, particularly on talk radio.

This appears to be seasonal. The south gets hit hard during the late spring, summer, and early fall. The north gets slammed during the late fall and winter.

A year and a half ago, New York had more deaths than every other state combined.

And now with more and more people getting sick with the coronavirus, DESPITE being vaccinated, these mandates could come back to bite Democrats right in the rump.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: loco on October 27, 2021, 04:57:41 PM
But, But, but.....DeSantis won't do mask mandates; we're supposed to be dropping like Egypt's firstborn with no lamb's blood.

It's appears to be as number of medical experts (that is, the ones that aren't bureaucrats in DC) have stated, particularly on talk radio.

This appears to be seasonal. The south gets hit hard during the late spring, summer, and early fall. The north gets slammed during the late fall and winter.

A year and a half ago, New York had more deaths than every other state combined.

And now with more and more people getting sick with the coronavirus, DESPITE being vaccinated, these mandates could come back to bite Democrats right in the rump.

 ;D
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: loco on October 27, 2021, 04:59:04 PM
California virus cases stop falling, governor urges caution

https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-virus-cases-stop-falling-233239720.html
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: loco on November 03, 2021, 05:45:02 AM
Don Lemon caught maskless enjoying vacation in Florida with hunny bun. Woman nicely destroys him, haha.



Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: loco on November 10, 2021, 05:47:47 PM
Highly-vaccinated Vermont has more COVID-19 cases than ever.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/highly-vaccinated-vermont-more-covid-152537112.html
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: MCWAY on November 13, 2021, 05:39:02 PM
Highly-vaccinated Vermont has more COVID-19 cases than ever.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/highly-vaccinated-vermont-more-covid-152537112.html

Why do I have a feeling the Crackpot News Network and MSLSD won't be wailing about Vermont's governor the way they did with DeSantis?
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on November 13, 2021, 06:23:17 PM
Are we still congratulating Ron DeSantis ???
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on November 13, 2021, 06:30:26 PM
COVID in Vermont and Florida in November = indoors verses outdoors.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Grape Ape on November 13, 2021, 07:12:36 PM
COVID in Vermont and Florida in November = indoors verses outdoors.

Yes.

A major component of how the gov't failed was locking people indoor when they should have promoted going outside, getting activity, vitamin D, etc.  California actually closed parks and beaches, and dumped sand into skate parks to prevent skating.

A complete and utter failure.

Government failure at the highest levels, yet it's never discussed, and they've never taken accountability.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: chaos on November 14, 2021, 08:08:26 AM
Yes.

A major component of how the gov't failed was locking people indoor when they should have promoted going outside, getting activity, vitamin D, etc.  California actually closed parks and beaches, and dumped sand into skate parks to prevent skating.

A complete and utter failure.

Government failure at the highest levels, yet it's never discussed, and they've never taken accountability.
There is a whole sect of government groupies that either fail to understand this or just refuse to admit it.
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2021, 05:00:33 PM
Yes.

A major component of how the gov't failed was locking people indoor when they should have promoted going outside, getting activity, vitamin D, etc.  California actually closed parks and beaches, and dumped sand into skate parks to prevent skating.

A complete and utter failure.

Government failure at the highest levels, yet it's never discussed, and they've never taken accountability.

Hopefully, we will learn from our failures. Fear is a powerful motivator. Since the beginning of the pandemic, people have been afraid of the unknown. Although there have been pandemics in the past, I don't think any of them have affected so many people. I am not just talking about the people who got sick. Communication being what it is today, people who would have been left in the dark in the past know what's going on within a couple of days. Paranoia is rampant.

You may be right, maybe the world should have acted if everything was business as usual. Mostly old and sick people were affected in the beginning. Some see these folks as a drain on society. Most of us are not willing to vocalize this because that's not how human being operate...and some of us are old and/or sick.

I decided to live on the edge today. LOL! So I took myself out to breakfast....and no doubt exposed myself to COVID. But damn, it was a delicious meal and I had a great time. Maybe I'll start working out at the gym next week. I'm on a roll.  ;)
Title: Re: Congratulations to Ron DeSantis
Post by: Moontrane on November 14, 2021, 06:41:26 PM
Yes.

A major component of how the gov't failed was locking people indoor when they should have promoted going outside, getting activity, vitamin D, etc.  California actually closed parks and beaches, and dumped sand into skate parks to prevent skating.

A complete and utter failure.

Government failure at the highest levels, yet it's never discussed, and they've never taken accountability.

Cuomo on C-19 hospitalizations in May 2020:

“If you notice, 18% of the people came from nursing homes, less than 1% came from jail or prison, 2% came from the homeless population, 2% from other congregate facilities, but 66% of the people were at home, which is shocking to us,” Cuomo said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html