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Title: Covid 19 - CDC - Lies and Guidance Theories
Post by: IroNat on August 08, 2021, 11:35:25 AM
 https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2021/05/09/halt-covid-vaccine-prominent-scientist-tells-cdc
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Dave D on August 08, 2021, 11:45:26 AM
Who is this?

Howard has been with his MD for over 20 years and he specifically told Howard the vaccine was worth getting. As Howard said who would know more about the vaccine than someone who regularly practices medicine.

It’s no different than taking your Tesla to your automotive specialist.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 08, 2021, 11:58:18 AM
Look for her to commit suicide soon. :-X
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: hench on August 08, 2021, 12:03:27 PM
Why are we being almost blackmailed into getting a vaccine that doesn't stop us catching it or passing it on. Why are so many blind to this and if the vaccinated are so happy with their vaccine why are so many bashing the ones not getting vaccinated? If the vaccine is so good they should be happy they won't catch it around unvaccinated people!
The worlds gone mad
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 08, 2021, 12:05:46 PM
Why are we being almost blackmailed into getting a vaccine that doesn't stop us catching it or passing it on. Why are so many blind to this and if the vaccinated are so happy with their vaccine why are so many bashing the ones not getting vaccinated? If the vaccine is so good they should be happy they won't catch it around unvaccinated people!
The worlds gone mad
The world has been mad for some time now.  Half the population actually believes trannies are real women.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: hench on August 08, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
We have to believe that or else its hate and prejudice
The world has been mad for some time now.  Half the population actually believes trannies are real women.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 08, 2021, 02:52:58 PM
Who is this?

Howard has been with his MD for over 20 years and he specifically told Howard the vaccine was worth getting. As Howard said who would know more about the vaccine than someone who regularly practices medicine.

It’s no different than taking your Tesla to your automotive specialist.

What’s really funny is that those of us on getbig probably heard about Covid well before Howard’s doctor.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Mayday on August 08, 2021, 02:53:37 PM
Why are we being almost blackmailed into getting a vaccine that doesn't stop us catching it or passing it on.

Commitment to earlier decisions.

They can't be seen to backtrack otherwise they need to admit they were wrong.

Although right now i believe it's more to do with the senate and lack of stimmy approval which is driving it. Dems can't get anything approved and the economy has started to bleed out. If they don't do something quick we will have a much larger correction this year than people realise.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Zillotch on August 08, 2021, 02:54:26 PM
terminally braindead tards who willingly allow an abominable, experimental gene altering poison +, with known dire effects - and zero upside whatsoever - to be injected inside of their body r surely some of the most pathetic, useless and spiritually dead cowards to have ever existed.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 08, 2021, 02:59:45 PM
Commitment to earlier decisions.

They can't be seen to backtrack otherwise they need to admit they were wrong.

Although right now i believe it's more to do with the senate and lack of stimmy approval which is driving it. Dems can't get anything approved and the economy has started to bleed out. If they don't do something quick we will have a much larger correction this year than people realise.

Good points. Many of the Covid programs are set to expire Labor Day.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Dave D on August 08, 2021, 03:20:03 PM
What’s really funny is that those of us on getbig probably heard about Covid well before Howard’s doctor.

Lol. I remember Gib and Army of One telling us in North America to prepare for a world wide shut down back in October of 19. I remember arguing that there was no way we would shut down over a virus…..
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: J. Richards on August 08, 2021, 04:09:39 PM
stubborn libby co-worker got his shots... after his 2nd he needed 4 days off... sounded like shit talking to him on the phone.... has his vacc sticker on his cooler....  but says.. "i'd rather get sick from the shot than get Covid and maybe die"....  what an idiot...
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: TheGrinch on August 08, 2021, 04:26:31 PM
Lol. I remember Gib and Army of One telling us in North America to prepare for a world wide shut down back in October of 19. I remember arguing that there was no way we would shut down over a virus…..

There was a post back in Sept or Oct 19th that included a screenshot from some Reddit sub or 4chan forum from what I remember..


Was way way way before all the shit went down and it listed everything exactly 100% what was going to happen

Wish I could find it and/or that original reddit/4chan thread thing
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 08, 2021, 04:40:22 PM
stubborn libby co-worker got his shots... after his 2nd he needed 4 days off... sounded like shit talking to him on the phone.... has his vacc sticker on his cooler....  but says.. "i'd rather get sick from the shot than get Covid and maybe die"....  what an idiot...

Probably faking and just using it as an excuse to get time off from work. You’re going to see tons of this happening in the next few months.

People are already figuring out how to rig the test. So, you just claim you didn’t  feel well and took a test. It came up positive. Now, you get a paid vacation.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: robcguns on August 08, 2021, 04:47:23 PM
The world has been mad for some time now.  Half the population actually believes trannies are real women.

HahahHaha
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: deadz on August 08, 2021, 04:49:42 PM
Why are we being almost blackmailed into getting a vaccine that doesn't stop us catching it or passing it on. Why are so many blind to this and if the vaccinated are so happy with their vaccine why are so many bashing the ones not getting vaccinated? If the vaccine is so good they should be happy they won't catch it around unvaccinated people!
The worlds gone mad
Weird Fucking Times!
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: POB on August 08, 2021, 05:00:00 PM
Probably faking and just using it as an excuse to get time off from work. You’re going to see tons of this happening in the next few months.

People are already figuring out how to rig the test. So, you just claim you didn’t  feel well and took a test. It came up positive. Now, you get a paid vacation.
Totally agree everyone’s been pretty much working part time from home for the same or more money and are looking to keep milking the “pandemic” for all its worth. I know multiple big company’s every time they go back in a limited capacity 1st week someone pops a positive and the return plan is suspended for another 3 months
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: GymnJuice on August 08, 2021, 06:43:50 PM
The world has been mad for some time now.  Half the population actually believes trannies are real women.

And that you are transphobic for being attracted to real women instead of fake women.  Or even saying they aren't real women to begin with.  WTF
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Howard on August 08, 2021, 07:24:22 PM
Who is this?

Howard has been with his MD for over 20 years and he specifically told Howard the vaccine was worth getting. As Howard said who would know more about the vaccine than someone who regularly practices medicine.

It’s no different than taking your Tesla to your automotive specialist.

Sadly, the relationship with my doc has lasted longer then any marriage...so far. ;D

If I could afford to drive a Tesla, I'd hire some navy seals to come over and vax you in your sleep. ;D

Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: booty on August 08, 2021, 07:33:38 PM
They are potentially going to do trials with children 6 months upwards with moderna in Australia. Using our children as lab rats. This madness has to stop. If it goes ahead, I think there will be a revolt here.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 08, 2021, 07:44:40 PM
Democrats love to appeal to authority.  Doctors, scientists, and various other experts.  Dems love to tell you that you have to listen to science.

Unless the scientist disagrees with Democrats.  The opinions of those scientists are worthless, unreliable, and should be censored.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Vince B on August 08, 2021, 07:49:08 PM
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2021/05/09/halt-covid-vaccine-prominent-scientist-tells-cdc

"Hi, my name is Dr. Janci Chunn Lindsay. I hold a doctorate in biochemistry and molecular biology from the University of Texas, and have over 30 years of scientific experience, primarily in toxicology and mechanistic biology.

We have enough evidence now to see a clear correlation with increased Covid deaths and the vaccine campaigns. This is not a coincidence. It is an unfortunate unintended effect of the vaccines. We simply must not turn a blind eye and pretend this is not occurring. We must halt all Covid vaccine administration immediately, before we create a true pandemic that we cannot reign in."
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: booty on August 08, 2021, 08:01:47 PM
"Hi, my name is Dr. Janci Chunn Lindsay. I hold a doctorate in biochemistry and molecular biology from the University of Texas, and have over 30 years of scientific experience, primarily in toxicology and mechanistic biology.

We have enough evidence now to see a clear correlation with increased Covid deaths and the vaccine campaigns. This is not a coincidence. It is an unfortunate unintended effect of the vaccines. We simply must not turn a blind eye and pretend this is not occurring. We must halt all Covid vaccine administration immediately, before we create a true pandemic that we cannot reign in."

Geert Vande Bosche has been saying this. The WHO won’t listen to him or the CDC.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: WeightPSHR on August 08, 2021, 08:04:47 PM
stubborn libby co-worker got his shots... after his 2nd he needed 4 days off... sounded like shit talking to him on the phone.... has his vacc sticker on his cooler....  but says.. "i'd rather get sick from the shot than get Covid and maybe die"....  what an idiot...

Idiot will likey get covid anyways and will tell everyone he had a light case due to the vaccine.

Ironically, thousands of unvaccinated people have reported light symptoms as well.

Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: AbrahamG on August 08, 2021, 11:22:23 PM
Idiot will likey get covid anyways and will tell everyone he had a light case due to the vaccine.

Ironically, thousands of unvaccinated people have reported light symptoms as well.

And thousands more continue to die.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: mac33 on August 08, 2021, 11:30:12 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1423322271503028228
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: WeightPSHR on August 08, 2021, 11:44:04 PM
And thousands more continue to die.


And, people in my physical condition and age have a +99% chance of recovering without a vaccine. Why would I get vaccinated?
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: AbrahamG on August 09, 2021, 12:07:09 AM


And, people in my physical condition and age have a +99% chance of recovering without a vaccine. Why would I get vaccinated?

Round and round we go.  So you don't give it to someone who isn't quite the specimen that you are.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: booty on August 09, 2021, 12:09:52 AM
Round and round we go.  So you don't give it to someone who isn't quite the specimen that you are.
Transmission is the same between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. The CDC has confirmed this. If someone takes the vaccine, they do it to lessen the symptoms if they catch it.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: AbrahamG on August 09, 2021, 12:11:06 AM
Transmission is the same between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. The CDC has confirmed this. If someone takes the vaccine, they do it to lessen the symptoms if they catch it.

Viral load plays a part too. 
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 09, 2021, 12:27:52 AM
Viral load plays a part too.

That one of the things that's alarming about the latest data.  It says that not only can you get the virus if you are vaccinated, but you also have a very high viral load......hence the transmission.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: WeightPSHR on August 09, 2021, 08:04:03 AM
Round and round we go.  So you don't give it to someone who isn't quite the specimen that you are.

My point is blaming the unvaccinated is pointless.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: Straw Man on August 09, 2021, 09:16:48 AM
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2021/05/09/halt-covid-vaccine-prominent-scientist-tells-cdc

https://factcheck.afp.com/scientist-makes-inaccurate-claims-covid-19-vaccine-safety

Everything has side effects

We have ~ 166 million people fully vaccinated

How many adverse reactions have their been ?

At present we're in the middle of the 4th wave and the ones who are really sick and dying are 96-99% unvaccinated.
Title: Re: Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC
Post by: deadz on August 09, 2021, 11:57:43 AM
https://factcheck.afp.com/scientist-makes-inaccurate-claims-covid-19-vaccine-safety

Everything has side effects

We have ~ 166 million people fully vaccinated

How many adverse reactions have their been ?

At present we're in the middle of the 4th wave and the ones who are really sick and dying are 96-99% unvaccinated.
Hey shit for brains, people don’t want the shot because they don’t want to be the next “adverse reaction.” Thick headed dumb motherfuckin libtard!
Title: Covid 19 - CDC - Lies and Guidance Theories
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 11, 2021, 07:22:43 AM
https://nworeport.me/2021/08/10/watch-doctor-thoroughly-demolishes-cdcs-guidance-in-presentation-that-blows-school-board-away/
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: joswift on August 11, 2021, 07:28:11 AM
that video was removed from YouTube after one day

all the source information from his speech is here
https://www.doweneedthis.org/blog/md-speaks-out-at-school-board-meeting-in-indiana


https://hancockcountypatriots.blogspot.com/2021/08/dr-dan-stocks-presentation-to-mt-vernon.html?fbclid=IwAR1JMyu6qHfW5uS1ryhJK32NfSexz_1dH7SUakNPXnhAV2tg02P1Up4yqJg
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 11, 2021, 07:33:59 AM
that video was removed from YouTube after one day

all the source information from his speech is here
https://www.doweneedthis.org/blog/md-speaks-out-at-school-board-meeting-in-indiana


https://hancockcountypatriots.blogspot.com/2021/08/dr-dan-stocks-presentation-to-mt-vernon.html?fbclid=IwAR1JMyu6qHfW5uS1ryhJK32NfSexz_1dH7SUakNPXnhAV2tg02P1Up4yqJg

It’s within the article as well
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: residue on August 11, 2021, 07:48:23 AM
https://nworeport.me/2021/08/10/watch-doctor-thoroughly-demolishes-cdcs-guidance-in-presentation-that-blows-school-board-away/

of course, everyone knows the top doctors operate out of bumfuck nowhere indiana, the mecca of medicine in the states. there's 50 fucking rebuttal articles showing he's full of shit


https://www.deplatformdisease.com/blog/addressing-dr-daniel-stock-claims
https://www.wthr.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/doctors-controversial-covid-comments-go-viral-indiana-state-department-of-health-responds-dan-stock-indianapolis-mt-vernon-indiana/531-b769177f-6732-460b-b6a6-e37f70090ac0
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/scicheck-indiana-doctor-piles-on-bogus-covid-19-claims-in-viral-video/
 
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 11, 2021, 08:17:04 AM
of course, everyone knows the top doctors operate out of bumfuck nowhere indiana, the mecca of medicine in the states. there's 50 fucking rebuttal articles showing he's full of shit




Please go get 5 more booster shots of the vaccine. I'm worried about you.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 11, 2021, 08:49:30 AM
There’s really no point in going on about this. Most here have known this has been one big scam for more than a year and a half. The CDC is just a tool for special interests. Just accept it and look to profit from it as best you can without putting yourself in legal jeopardy.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 11, 2021, 09:02:47 AM

Please go get 5 more booster shots of the vaccine. I'm worried about you.

Yeah...even though there’s like 50 other studies out there saying the same thing our resident Getbig doctors have it all figured out.

Hey Residue, with you tube and most of social media killing anyone’s accounts that goes against the narrative, don’t you think they would leave up the hit pieces?

And the fact that you cited “factcheck.org” as a reference says everything
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 11, 2021, 09:12:28 AM
Yeah...even though there’s like 50 other studies out there saying the same thing our resident Getbig doctors have it all figured out.

Hey Residue, with you tube and most of social media killing anyone’s accounts that goes against the narrative, don’t you think they would leave up the hit pieces?

And the fact that you cited “factcheck.org” as a reference says everything


Coach - there is no point trying to inject science into this, lol. The vax crowd is a religious cult.
Title: Covid 19 - CDC and their Lies - Discuss
Post by: Eric2 on August 11, 2021, 09:24:06 AM
Hope this link works. Never heard it put so well and eloquently.

Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 11, 2021, 09:32:59 AM

Coach - there is no point trying to inject science into this, lol. The vax crowd is a religious cult.

It’s not just Vax. They’ve bought everything from masks to lockdowns to  social distancing. They just can’t accept that government might be wrong or lying or both.

I don’t try to convince people like this in the real world. The only people I’ve smartened up are those who knew that something fishy going on but didn’t have the economic and  finance background to understand what this was really about.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Straw Man on August 11, 2021, 09:47:15 AM
https://heavy.com/news/dr-daniel-dan-stock/

We'll all get to see for ourselves if mask work in helping diminish the spread of the virus

Florida and other red states are (for the most part) not allowing masks
They actually penalize people for using them.

So far it's been a huge disaster for Florida. 

Right now they have more kids hospitalized with Covid than anywhere else in the country

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-hospitalized-children-covid-19-school-year/37262799#

Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: WeightPSHR on August 11, 2021, 09:51:23 AM
https://heavy.com/news/dr-daniel-dan-stock/

We'll all get to see for ourselves if mask work in helping diminish the spread of the virus

Florida and other red states are (for the most part) not allowing masks
They actually penalize people for using them.

So far it's been a huge disaster for Florida. 

Right now they have more kids hospitalized with Covid than anywhere else in the country

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-hospitalized-children-covid-19-school-year/37262799#

Not so fast....

Florida removed mask mandates last year and  they were consistently doing better than most states.

Doesn't help when MSM is inflating numbers either.

Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 11, 2021, 10:02:24 AM
https://heavy.com/news/dr-daniel-dan-stock/

We'll all get to see for ourselves if mask work in helping diminish the spread of the virus

Florida and other red states are (for the most part) not allowing masks
They actually penalize people for using them.

So far it's been a huge disaster for Florida. 

Right now they have more kids hospitalized with Covid than anywhere else in the country

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-hospitalized-children-covid-19-school-year/37262799#

Do you ever read anything that isn’t completely propaganda?
Title: Re: Covid CDC Lies
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 11, 2021, 10:03:54 AM
I posted the entire article with this video and of course the usual suspects on here tried to unsuccessfully debunk it
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Grape Ape on August 11, 2021, 10:05:47 AM
of course, everyone knows the top doctors operate out of bumfuck nowhere indiana

Elitist liberal post reported.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: MCWAY on August 11, 2021, 10:10:41 AM
https://heavy.com/news/dr-daniel-dan-stock/

We'll all get to see for ourselves if mask work in helping diminish the spread of the virus

Florida and other red states are (for the most part) not allowing masks
They actually penalize people for using them.

So far it's been a huge disaster for Florida. 

Right now they have more kids hospitalized with Covid than anywhere else in the country

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-hospitalized-children-covid-19-school-year/37262799#

We've already seen for ourselves, namely in YOUR state and in states like NY and NJ.

You guys had and kept mask mandates. Care to explain all them DEAD BODIES?

Why did NY last year have more deaths than all the other states combined?

And, as tough as it may be for you, PLEASE GET A CLUE and quit posting this stupid crap. Nobody is banning masks, especially in Florida. Nor is anyone being punished for wearring a mask. What is being banned is mask MANDATES.

Even you can't be this dense to confuse barring institutions from FORCING mask wear with banning people from wearing masks.

NAME ONE PERSON IN FLORIDA, or anywhere else, who got fined, fired, or suspended FOR WEARING A MASK.

Parents can opt out their kids, if they wish, out of the school entirely.

Schools in Seminole County (right next to Orange County where I live) are even allowing kids to be exempt from masks with their parents' written permission.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Grape Ape on August 11, 2021, 10:14:06 AM
Cloth / paper masks "work" only to the extent that they limit the blast radius a bit.  They don't protect the person wearing it.

So I get that inside, they have a small chance of limiting exposure.

Masks outside are for the mentally ill or permanently scared.

If they were really serious about masks, they'd mandate n95s.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: MCWAY on August 11, 2021, 10:18:29 AM
We already know children with underlying conditions probably need that bullshit in a syringe, already know a dumb family brought a sick child on vacation with them to Hawaii and they killed him.  Healthy kids have minor-baby flu symptoms and move on like Honey Badgers.  Basically, a kid shows up in a SoCal ER with normal flu-like symptoms and they DX that as severe Covid b/c the parent brought him or her to the hospital to be seen even though he/she went home for quarantine for 10  days. I know a dozen adults who had 10 quarantines with no real symptoms.

This bish was driving me crazy about waiting for the vaccine for her 8 yr old b.c 2 kids tested positive with NO FUCKING SYMPTOMS.  FUCK OUTTA HERE!   

On a positive note, Disnyland is a superspreader for the FUCKING VACCINATED!

NOT to be confused with Disney World here in Florida.  ;D
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: residue on August 11, 2021, 10:18:58 AM
Elitist liberal post reported.
or just factual
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Stutheobald on August 11, 2021, 10:19:12 AM
from a PHD immunologist and microbiologist

https://www.tiktok.com/@scitimewithtracy/video/6994781079798418694?lang=en&is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=6984440110922171910 and  https://www.tiktok.com/@scitimewithtracy/video/6994839811068628229?lang=en&is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=6984440110922171910

that guy is full of shit basically
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 11, 2021, 10:19:36 AM
Cloth / paper masks "work" only to the extent that they limit the blast radius a bit.  They don't protect the person wearing it.

So I get that inside, they have a small chance of limiting exposure.

Masks outside are for the mentally ill or permanently scared.

If they were really serious about masks, they'd mandate n95s.
Don't give them any ideas.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: joswift on August 11, 2021, 10:22:46 AM
from a PHD immunologist and microbiologist

https://www.tiktok.com/@scitimewithtracy/video/6994781079798418694?lang=en&is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=6984440110922171910 and  https://www.tiktok.com/@scitimewithtracy/video/6994839811068628229?lang=en&is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=6984440110922171910

that guy is full of shit basically

hahahah she agreed with almost everything he said and just made snide comments,, fucks sake..
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: residue on August 11, 2021, 10:24:47 AM
We've already seen for ourselves, namely in YOUR state and in states like NY and NJ.

You guys had and kept mask mandates. Care to explain all them DEAD BODIES.


Why did NY last year have more deaths than all the other states combined?

And, as tough as it may be for you, PLEASE GET A CLUE and quit posting this stupid crap. Nobody is banning masks, especially in Florida. Nor is anyone being punished for wearring a mask. What is being banned is mask MANDATES.

Even you can't be this dense to confuse barring institutions from FORCING mask wear with banning people from wearing masks.

NAME ONE PERSON IN FLORIDA, or anywhere else, who got fined, fired, or suspended FOR WEARING A MASK.

Parents can opt out their kids, if they wish, out of the school entirely.

Schools in Seminole County (right next to Orange County where I live) are even allowing kids to be exempt from masks with their parents' written permission.

idk, population density. the 10 most densely populated cities in america are in the new york metropolitan area.

I'm pretty sure there's about 5000 people alone living on my block and on the average day there's about 175,000 people per square mile on any block in manhattan. Not to mention the majority of people use public transport which is world famous for being cramped.
Title: Re: Covid CDC Lies
Post by: G_Thang on August 11, 2021, 10:27:31 AM
Hope this link works. Never heard it put so well and eloquently.



Simply, as noted by any sober virologist, the vaccines are enhancing viral sequence spacing with more progressive and potentially lethal mutations.  delta, lambda, sigma fucboi, or whatever is next mutation should have zero mortality across the board of all age groups but it's just the opposite.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Howard on August 11, 2021, 10:27:41 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mandatory-vaccinations-triggered-riot-montreal-113751233.html

LOL, back in 1885 , the anti vax crowd did similar things.
Title: Re: Covid CDC Lies
Post by: Eric2 on August 11, 2021, 10:28:32 AM
Coach,  I have not posted here in years and just came back for a look. I did not see you had posted this already until after I did. Too bad the world is for the most part....blind to what is happening.  Our country is now lost and the commie socialist are taking over.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Grape Ape on August 11, 2021, 10:29:18 AM
or just factual

Not really.

Plenty of outstanding doctors throughout the country.

It's no different than attacking the source of an article.

Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Grape Ape on August 11, 2021, 10:31:17 AM
LOL, back in 1885 , the anti vax crowd did similar things.

Please confirm this with wes before presenting as fact.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: MCWAY on August 11, 2021, 10:33:10 AM
idk, population density. the 10 most densely populated cities in america are in the new york metropolitan area.

I'm pretty sure there's about 5000 people alone living on my block and on the average day there's about 175,000 people per square mile on any block in manhattan. Not to mention the majority of people use public transport which is world famous for being cramped.


You may have a point. Florida has more people than NY. However, more are squished in certain areas than others. But social distance mandates were also in effect as well.

The mainstream media keep blasting DeSantis for not FORCING people to wear masks (not to be confused with barring people from wearing them, Straw).

Yet, they all but nominated Cuomo for sainthood, despite his states having more corona corpses than any other state (and at one point, more than all the other states combined), mandates and all.


Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: joswift on August 11, 2021, 10:37:12 AM
of course, everyone knows the top doctors operate out of bumfuck nowhere indiana, the mecca of medicine in the states. there's 50 fucking rebuttal articles showing he's full of shit


https://www.deplatformdisease.com/blog/addressing-dr-daniel-stock-claims
https://www.wthr.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/doctors-controversial-covid-comments-go-viral-indiana-state-department-of-health-responds-dan-stock-indianapolis-mt-vernon-indiana/531-b769177f-6732-460b-b6a6-e37f70090ac0
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/scicheck-indiana-doctor-piles-on-bogus-covid-19-claims-in-viral-video/


Deplatform disease first link is produced by this fuckwit
https://twitter.com/ENirenberg?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Howard on August 11, 2021, 10:37:51 AM
Please confirm this with wes before presenting as fact.

Wes was busy doing the 1885 Mr Montreal  and missed the riot.
We'll need another source.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Straw Man on August 11, 2021, 10:40:47 AM
Not so fast....

Florida removed mask mandates last year and  they were consistently doing better than most states.

Doesn't help when MSM is inflating numbers either.

were they ?

Can you explain what you're basing this on.  Specific dates and comparisons to "most" states

Also, right now they are the worst it's probably in large part because they removed their restrictions earlier than everyone else

This entire country is running 50 different experiments and we'll soon see who make the right choices to keep people as safe as possible
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: MCWAY on August 11, 2021, 10:46:08 AM
were they ?

Yep.


Can you explain what you're basing this on.  Specific dates and comparisons to "most" states

Also, right now they are the worst it's probably in large part because they removed their restrictions earlier than everyone else

This entire country is running 50 different experiments and we'll soon see who make the right choices to keep people as safe as possible

Again, if keeping restrictions in place were so effective, your state and NY wouldn't have racked up the number of corona corpses that they did.

Businesses and residents aren't fleeing to CA and NY; they're fleeing FROM them. One governor just got the axe and the other's head is on the chopping block.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Straw Man on August 11, 2021, 12:06:02 PM
Yep.

Great, then you'll have no problem documenting your claim with number and specific examples
I look forward to seeing that info

Again, if keeping restrictions in place were so effective, your state and NY wouldn't have racked up the number of corona corpses that they did.

Businesses and residents aren't fleeing to CA and NY; they're fleeing FROM them. One governor just got the axe and the other's head is on the chopping block.

Nonsense

Not only are CA overall numbers (per capita) better since the beginning of this mess better than Florida...what really matters is what is happening right now

Right now Florida is an absolute disaster and it's all because of the actions of their idiotic Trumptard governor.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/california-doing-better-with-delta-variant-than-florida-texas-and-experts-attribute-it-to-higher-vaccine-rates-mask-policies/
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: TheFranchise on August 11, 2021, 12:08:23 PM
Why does the doctor offices not also run Covid and a Flu checks together? Oh wait, that’s because Covid shows up as the flu. It’s a simple virus, not fucking Ebola you pussies.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Straw Man on August 11, 2021, 12:11:35 PM
Why does the doctor offices not also run Covid and a Flu checks together? Oh wait, that’s because Covid shows up as the flu. It’s a simple virus, not fucking Ebola you pussies.

that must be why ICU's across the country to filled to the brim with flu cases every summer
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: joswift on August 11, 2021, 12:23:32 PM
that must be why ICU's across the country to filled to the brim with flu cases every summer
they are filled to the brim with flu cases (covid) because of the vaccines, the covid wards were empty last summer.

Clue, they didnt have vaccines back then
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 11, 2021, 12:34:23 PM
Why does the doctor offices not also run Covid and a Flu checks together? Oh wait, that’s because Covid shows up as the flu. It’s a simple virus, not fucking Ebola you pussies.

These Vaccines are simply repackaged flu shots. From the CDC:


What protection does a flu vaccine provide if I do get sick with flu?
Some people who get vaccinated may still get sick. However, flu vaccination has been shown in several studies to reduce severity of illness in people who get vaccinated but still get sick:
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Straw Man on August 11, 2021, 12:38:55 PM
they are filled to the brim with flu cases (covid) because of the vaccines, the covid wards were empty last summer.

Clue, they didnt have vaccines back then

Covid is not the flu

Not sure why you still believe that

Here's a headline from July 2020 ..just to refresh your faulty memory

https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/us-hospital-icus-filling-after-another-record-breaking-day-covid-infections

The current surge in hospitalization is due to unvaccinated people.  Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

https://www.vox.com/22602039/breakthrough-cases-covid-19-delta-variant-masks-vaccines
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Primemuscle on August 11, 2021, 12:41:50 PM
It’s not just Vax. They’ve bought everything from masks to lockdowns to  social distancing. They just can’t accept that government might be wrong or lying or both.

I don’t try to convince people like this in the real world. The only people I’ve smartened up are those who knew that something fishy going on but didn’t have the economic and  finance background to understand what this was really about.

Which is wrong or lying government....all of them or just a few? COVID is worldwide. There are 294 counties most of them independent. Each country has it's own government. Some governments don't get along with others. Do you think it is possible they'd all be on the same page (conspire) with a virus like COVID and how it's treated?   
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: residue on August 11, 2021, 12:44:01 PM
Yep.

Again, if keeping restrictions in place were so effective, your state and NY wouldn't have racked up the number of corona corpses that they did.

Businesses and residents aren't fleeing to CA and NY; they're fleeing FROM them. One governor just got the axe and the other's head is on the chopping block.

the reports of people feeling new york are wildly exaggerated, as soon as restrictions were lifted people came back in droves

https://www.unacast.com/white-papers/ny-2x
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: residue on August 11, 2021, 12:45:21 PM
Which is wrong or lying government....all of them or just a few? COVID is worldwide. There are 294 counties most of them independent. Each country has it's own government. Some governments don't get along with others. Do you think it is possible they'd all be on the same page (conspire) with a virus like COVID and how it's treated?
it's all a plot by george soros to make elon musk ritch
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Primemuscle on August 11, 2021, 12:51:09 PM
Yeah...even though there’s like 50 other studies out there saying the same thing our resident Getbig doctors have it all figured out.

Hey Residue, with you tube and most of social media killing anyone’s accounts that goes against the narrative, don’t you think they would leave up the hit pieces?

And the fact that you cited “factcheck.org” as a reference says everything

That would be 50 studies out of how many saying something different or the opposite? There are also two governors saying something different about COVID and how to handle it which leaves somewhere around 48 other governors who disagree either partly or completely with DeSantis and Abbott.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: WeightPSHR on August 11, 2021, 12:52:29 PM
Covid is not the flu

Not sure why you still believe that

Here's a headline from July 2020 ..just to refresh your faulty memory

https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/us-hospital-icus-filling-after-another-record-breaking-day-covid-infections

The current surge in hospitalization is due to unvaccinated people.  Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

https://www.vox.com/22602039/breakthrough-cases-covid-19-delta-variant-masks-vaccines

Serious question.... I'd like to hear your view on this since you're a vaccine proponent. Not trying to be an ass.

Why mandate a vaccine on people that have a +99% chance of recovering from Covid? Especially since we now know that the vaccinated can carry / spread the virus?
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Primemuscle on August 11, 2021, 12:53:22 PM
it's all a plot by george soros to make elon musk ritch

Damn, you are smart! Much wiser than I am because this hadn't occurred to me until you posted it. Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Primemuscle on August 11, 2021, 01:03:26 PM
Serious question.... I'd like to hear your view in this since you're a vaccine proponent. Not trying to be an ass.

Why mandate a vaccine on people that have a +99% chance of recovering from Covid? Especially since we now known that the vaccinated can carry / spread the virus?

Are you sure about that number (99%)? COVID keeps mutating and the virologist don't know what is going to happen with this virus in the future. For example, supposedly, Delta is making younger folks sick. Hospitals and ICU's are once again filling up with people who are seriously ill and have less chance of recovering that those who only get a mild case. Many of those milder cases being people who are in fact vaccinated. In the U.S. only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. If this is correct, it sure looks as if the vaccine is somewhat beneficial.....in the event one prefers not to die from COVID. 
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 11, 2021, 01:06:22 PM
Tony Huge had some problems apparently. Did not elaborate much but he says he almost died.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CScENSsJ807/?utm_medium=copy_link

I had the confusion as well, was delirious when I was admitted.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Straw Man on August 11, 2021, 01:15:13 PM
Serious question.... I'd like to hear your view in this since you're a vaccine proponent. Not trying to be an ass.

Why mandate a vaccine on people that have a +99% chance of recovering from Covid? Especially since we now known that the vaccinated can carry / spread the virus?

I've answered this question multiple times on this board but I guess I'll do it again

First of all there is no mandate on the general population to get vaccinated

The current surge in hospitalizations is largely due  to the unvaccinated.

Their choice not to get vaccinated impacts EVERYONE because it's causing ICU's to fill up which impacts everyone else who need medical attention....especially urgent care

Here is one example, DFW Area Pediatric ICU Beds More Than 99% Occupied

Stephen Love, President of the DFW Hospital Council, said that will help protect younger children who can’t yet get the vaccine, and keep them out of the hospital.

Quote
“The reason we want to keep as many intensive care beds available – not only for adults, but pediatrics – we have car wrecks, people have heart attacks, they have strokes,” said Love. “We need that bed capacity for non-COVID type emergencies.

Unvaccinated people are also giving the virus a large population to infect and give the virus more opportunities to mutate...which again effect EVERYONE

Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: WeightPSHR on August 11, 2021, 01:26:02 PM
I've answered this question multiple times on this board but I guess I'll do it again

First of all there is no mandate on the general population to get vaccinated

The current surge in hospitalizations is largely due  to the unvaccinated.

Their choice not to get vaccinated impacts EVERYONE because it's causing ICU's to fill up which impacts everyone else who need medical attention....especially urgent care

Here is one example, DFW Area Pediatric ICU Beds More Than 99% Occupied

Stephen Love, President of the DFW Hospital Council, said that will help protect younger children who can’t yet get the vaccine, and keep them out of the hospital.

Unvaccinated people are also giving the virus a large population to infect and give the virus more opportunities to mutate...which again effect EVERYONE

Thank you for your opinion. Where I live, mandates are beginning. You can't visit someone in a hospital or nursing home unless you have a negative test or proof of vaccination. Just the beginning.

One more thing to consider it hospital admissions, mortality ans infections vary by state. There is not a one size fits all approach, but that's exactly how the government is treating this.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 11, 2021, 01:28:13 PM
youtube banned that doctor's video.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: joswift on August 11, 2021, 01:29:16 PM
Covid is not the flu

Not sure why you still believe that

Here's a headline from July 2020 ..just to refresh your faulty memory

https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/us-hospital-icus-filling-after-another-record-breaking-day-covid-infections

The current surge in hospitalization is due to unvaccinated people.  Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

https://www.vox.com/22602039/breakthrough-cases-covid-19-delta-variant-masks-vaccines

here is the UK case rates from this year to last, the vaccine roll out started 6th December
Notice the cases in August last year compared to August this year after vthe vaccine

Mass testing began in April...
(https://i.ibb.co/j8ppvwT/Screenshot-2021-08-11-at-21-02-37.png)
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 11, 2021, 01:32:41 PM
youtube banned that doctor's video.

Yep...they’re trying to control the narrative
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: MCWAY on August 11, 2021, 01:46:45 PM
Great, then you'll have no problem documenting your claim with number and specific examples
I look forward to seeing that info

You've already seen it.


Nonsense

Not only are CA overall numbers (per capita) better since the beginning of this mess better than Florida...what really matters is what is happening right now

Right now Florida is an absolute disaster and it's all because of the actions of their idiotic Trumptard governor.


https://ktla.com/news/local-news/california-doing-better-with-delta-variant-than-florida-texas-and-experts-attribute-it-to-higher-vaccine-rates-mask-policies/

Wrong again. NY, CA, and FL had the same governors last year. So, one more time, explain all those bodies those states racked up DESPITE THE CONTINUED LOCKDOWNS.


You already admitted that CA kept their mandates and lockdowns in place, long after Florida relaxed theirs.

The actions about which you keep blubbering that DeSantis not taking are ones your screwball governor ALREADY TOOK (and still are taking). Same goes for NY. Yet, you keep making this imbecilic claim that your state's dead bodies don't count because they kicked the bucket last year (or earlier this year).

So, mask mandates had no effect on the regular coronavirus; but now they work miracles against the more contagious Delta remix of it? PLEASE!!!
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: MCWAY on August 11, 2021, 01:57:36 PM
I've answered this question multiple times on this board but I guess I'll do it again

First of all there is no mandate on the general population to get vaccinated

The current surge in hospitalizations is largely due  to the unvaccinated.

Not yet. It never starts with one BIG mandate. DeBlasio just announced one for NYC. You can bet the other blue-city mayors will play copycat in due time.



Their choice not to get vaccinated impacts EVERYONE because it's causing ICU's to fill up which impacts everyone else who need medical attention....especially urgent care

Here is one example, DFW Area Pediatric ICU Beds More Than 99% Occupied

Stephen Love, President of the DFW Hospital Council, said that will help protect younger children who can’t yet get the vaccine, and keep them out of the hospital.

Unvaccinated people are also giving the virus a large population to infect and give the virus more opportunities to mutate...which again effect EVERYONE

Vaccinated people are also giving the virus to a large population; some, unfortunately are getting the full-blown deal, much as people who get flu shots end up with the actual flu.

Then there's that little race thing, where nearly 7 in 10 black people and 6 in 10 Latino HAVE NOT been vaccinated. Of course, let's not forget the same goofballs wailing about people not getting vaccinated this year SCARED THE DICKENS out of minorities last year, telling them not to get that shot.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 11, 2021, 03:03:31 PM
Not yet. It never starts with one BIG mandate. DeBlasio just announced one for NYC. You can bet the other blue-city mayors will play copycat in due time.


Vaccinated people are also giving the virus to a large population; some, unfortunately are getting the full-blown deal, much as people who get flu shots end up with the actual flu.

Then there's that little race thing, where nearly 7 in 10 black people and 6 in 10 Latino HAVE NOT been vaccinated. Of course, let's not forget the same goofballs wailing about people not getting vaccinated this year SCARED THE DICKENS out of minorities last year, telling them not to get that shot.

15 days to flatten the curve
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Howard on August 11, 2021, 03:41:59 PM
These Vaccines are simply repackaged flu shots. From the CDC:


What protection does a flu vaccine provide if I do get sick with flu?
Some people who get vaccinated may still get sick. However, flu vaccination has been shown in several studies to reduce severity of illness in people who get vaccinated but still get sick:
Ok then, let me ask you a serious question:

If you were in charge , what would you do, to deal with the Covid pandemic?
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Dave D on August 11, 2021, 03:51:45 PM
These threads are great.

No matter what is said it’s wrong because someone can post information that supports their idea, except the other point of view will confirm that source was not credible.

What I know for sure is that soon all the unvaccinated will be dead and the virus will be gone.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: joswift on August 11, 2021, 03:52:30 PM
These threads are great.

No matter what is said it’s wrong because someone can post information that supports their idea, except the other point of view will confirm that source was not credible.

What I know for sure is that soon all the unvaccinated will be dead and the virus will be gone.

 ;D
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: G_Thang on August 11, 2021, 11:00:58 PM
were they ?

Can you explain what you're basing this on.  Specific dates and comparisons to "most" states

Also, right now they are the worst it's probably in large part because they removed their restrictions earlier than everyone else

This entire country is running 50 different experiments and we'll soon see who make the right choices to keep people as safe as possible

Serum, PCR, and nasal q tip tests all cost $50 wholesale.  Serum tests can be handled by off-brand companies in which they can forward your serum datum to an existing database of previously infected patients and sort out the good, bad, and the ugly (hospitalized on vents which can be determined accurately 90% of the time at this point in history, based on Syracuse Univ medical datum), based on blood profiles, but they cut into the revenue streams of the fucboi vaccine makers and their paid-for hire cronies bc they literally eliminate the portion of the population who will have the same immune response as those who took the fucboi experimental vaccines. So you think pharmacies want off-brand companies cutting into the cash windfall and projected yearly shot revenues which they can literally give to zoo animals (See San Diego Zoo articles) vs. the standard influenza shot which is pretty much limited to the elderly and hospital workers?

Now, where did I say don't get the fucboi vaccine vs. eliminate the day 10 quarantiners who are unvaccinated and will develop natural antibodies equal to the fucboi vaccines, regardless of which vaccinated enhanced viroids come down the hamming generational line?

Your cognitive dissonance is kicking in if you think vaccinated aren't spreaders and aren't vising ERs.
Title: Re: Covid 19 - CDC - Lies and Guidance Theories
Post by: IroNat on August 12, 2021, 04:12:53 AM
Pediatric ICU's are normally 95% full at all times apparently.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: residue on August 12, 2021, 06:53:39 AM
Serious question.... I'd like to hear your view on this since you're a vaccine proponent. Not trying to be an ass.

Why mandate a vaccine on people that have a +99% chance of recovering from Covid? Especially since we now know that the vaccinated can carry / spread the virus?

1) recovering from covid isnt cheap.
2) "If we continue that trajectory, within the next five to seven to 10 days, I think we're going to see failure of the hospital system in Mississippi," Dr. Alan Jones, associate vice chancellor for clinical affairs of the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson, said during a press briefing.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/states-requesting-federal-combat-latest-surge-covid-19/story?id=79402766

 
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: WeightPSHR on August 12, 2021, 08:56:06 AM
1) recovering from covid isnt cheap.
2) "If we continue that trajectory, within the next five to seven to 10 days, I think we're going to see failure of the hospital system in Mississippi," Dr. Alan Jones, associate vice chancellor for clinical affairs of the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson, said during a press briefing.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/states-requesting-federal-combat-latest-surge-covid-19/story?id=79402766

Hospitals near me are nowhere near capacity.... Why is that not being considered when we talk about mandates, lockdowns and other restrictions? Some states may be near capacity and they should be treated independently. This is not a one-size-fits-all like the government is attempting.
Title: Re: Covid 19 - CDC - Lies and Guidance Theories
Post by: Dave D on August 12, 2021, 10:15:45 AM
Pediatric ICU's are normally 95% full at all times apparently.

WHAT! And now one is at 99% capacity, that's A 4% PERCENT INCREASE!

This is out of control.

Think of the children. Do something for them.
Title: Re: Covid 19 - CDC - Lies and Guidance Theories
Post by: IroNat on August 12, 2021, 10:37:39 AM
Tony Huge had some problems apparently. Did not elaborate much but he says he almost died.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CScENSsJ807/?utm_medium=copy_link

I had the confusion as well, was delirious when I was admitted.

Tony should've consulted John Meadows.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 12, 2021, 10:37:45 AM
Ok then, let me ask you a serious question:

If you were in charge , what would you do, to deal with the Covid pandemic?
Tell old people and people with pre existing conditions to quarantine themselves.  Let Covid run through society and treat those infected with bad symptoms with known medicines like Ivermectin.  If they had done this a year ago we wouldn't have a problem anymore.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Board_SHERIF on August 12, 2021, 10:58:13 AM
Ok then, let me ask you a serious question:

If you were in charge , what would you do, to deal with the Covid pandemic?

what is your view on the 100's of thousands of  migrants that came in across your southern border, with many thousands positive for covoid - but flown to cities near you  ?
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 12, 2021, 11:01:06 AM
Tell old people and people with pre existing conditions to quarantine themselves.  Let Covid run through society and treat those infected with bad symptoms with known medicines like Ivermectin.  If they had done this a year ago we wouldn't have a problem anymore.

Then there would have been no reason to print trillions of dollars.
Title: Re: Doctor Thoroughly Demolishes CDC’s ‘Guidance’
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 12, 2021, 11:03:19 AM
Then there would have been no reason to print trillions of dollars.
Along with changing the voting laws to get Biden elected, destroying businesses, keeping kids at home, allowing people to not pay rent to landlords, and on and on and on........
Title: Re: Covid 19 - CDC - Lies and Guidance Theories
Post by: Primemuscle on August 12, 2021, 11:14:27 AM
Pediatric ICU's are normally 95% full at all times apparently.

Meaning what? A PICU cares for infants and children up to age 17. What is the potential capacity of an ICU and of a pediatric ICU?