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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Royalty on September 18, 2021, 03:56:14 PM
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Form looks pretty good
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTQYEi_lq1C/
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Not really. He's mostly using momentum there.
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The banded preacher curl is an interesting variation, might have to try that.
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Steroids the weight up. Youd think hed have a better idea
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strong sob
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He would struggle to do that with 100 pounds with proper form.
Garbage ego lifting.
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Form looks pretty good
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTQYEi_lq1C/
How about 150 kg in each hand? ::)
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The banded preacher curl is an interesting variation, might have to try that.
I think the band is applied from the wrong direction. In any bicep movement pretty much the first part is the easiest and where the band should be unloading instead. Same with bands from the bottom of a row. The finishing part is where you are the weakest. As you fatigue the range gets shorter and you can no longer finish. There are machines now which takes this into consideration, you can emphasize different parts of the movement depending on where you put the plates - make the finish easier etc.
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He would struggle to do that with 100 pounds with proper form.
Garbage ego lifting.
I’m just guessing... but I bet that he started off with 40LB, 60LB, then 80LB, 100LB, then 120LB in his initial sets. Finally had someone record his set with 150LB.
His used some loose form yes, but he was not throwing the weight like Branch Warren
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I’m just guessing... but I bet that he started off with 40LB, 60LB, then 80LB, 100LB, then 120LB in his initial sets. Finally had someone record his his set with 150LB.
His used some loose form yes, but he was not throwing the weight like Branch Warren
Fact of the matter is that most pros use a ton of momentum on everything, much worse than this. Like Ronnie on his T-bar and barbell rows. He used momentum to get the weight moving then slammed his body down to meet the weight lol.
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I think the band is applied from the wrong direction. In any bicep movement pretty much the first part is the easiest and where the band should be unloading instead. Same with bands from the bottom of a row. The finishing part is where you are the weakest. As you fatigue the range gets shorter and you can no longer finish. There are machines now which takes this into consideration, you can emphasize different parts of the movement depending on where you put the plates - make the finish easier etc.
Exactly. The strength curve is the exact opposite of what it should be. Your strongest at the beginning of the curl and weaker toward the end. With legs it's the opposite, you're at your weakest in the beginning, full squat, position, but much stronger as your legs start to extend. That's why guys can do quarter reps with 800 lbs on the leg press but if they break 15 degrees that whole stack will cruch them.
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Fact of the matter is that most pros use a ton of momentum on everything, much worse than this. Like Ronnie on his T-bar and barbell rows. He used momentum to get the weight moving then slammed his body down to meet the weight lol.
That's why I think, or suspect, that it's the beginning of the movement where you really stretch and maybe have those micro-tears on the muscle. Remember those guys who promoted "Xreps" on Iron Man, where you focus on partials in the stretch position? Or Jason Huh who just does those short partial reps in the stretched position. I swear, when doing tricep extensions he seems to just be using 15 degrees of motion.
When you look at, say Ronnie, doing those T-bar rolls, his back/lats are under tremendous force at the beginning, stretched part, of the movement. The tremendous weight he is using plus the force of him blasting it up must really put a ton of force on the muscle. This force diminishes quickly as momentum takes over. So he's really only stressing the muscle in that beginning part of the movement.
I remember reading how it was that stretched position that cause the most muscle damage. Arthur Jones had a similar notion which he called the prestretch. Say, when doing a bench-type movement. Just before you fully lower it you almost kind of pause, for rather control it, and then sort of bump it up. It's kind of hard to describe. It's the same principle when you throw a baseball or swing a baseball bat. Your waist, shoulder, hand don't move in unison like when a door swings on its hinges. You throw your hips out first creating a tension, a prestretch, on your obliques, chest, arms, and hands creating more force. This "loading up" is clearly seen by that small step forward when swinging a baseball bat. Watch a discus thrower. How the hips precede the motion which causes the pecs to stretch out and like a rubber band snaps the arms and hands forward. This prestretch supposedly activates more muscle fibers.
Scroll to about 3:00.
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That's why I think, or suspect, that it's the beginning of the movement where you really stretch and maybe have those micro-tears on the muscle. Remember those guys who promoted "Xreps" on Iron Man, where you focus on partials in the stretch position? Or Jason Huh who just does those short partial reps in the stretched position. I swear, when doing tricep extensions he seems to just be using 15 degrees of motion.
When you look at, say Ronnie, doing those T-bar rolls, his back/lats are under tremendous force at the beginning, stretched part, of the movement. The tremendous weight he is using plus the force of him blasting it up must really put a ton of force on the muscle. This force diminishes quickly as momentum takes over. So he's really only stressing the muscle in that beginning part of the movement.
I remember reading how it was that stretched position that cause the most muscle damage. Arthur Jones had a similar notion which he called the prestretch. Say, when doing a bench-type movement. Just before you fully lower it you almost kind of pause, for rather control it, and then sort of bump it up. It's kind of hard to describe. It's the same principle when you throw a baseball or swing a baseball bat. Your waist, shoulder, hand don't move in unison like when a door swings on its hinges. You throw your hips out first creating a tension, a prestretch, on your obliques, chest, arms, and hands creating more force. This "loading up" is clearly seen by that small step forward when swinging a baseball bat. Watch a discus thrower. How the hips precede the motion which causes the pecs to stretch out and like a rubber band snaps the arms and hands forward. This prestretch supposedly activates more muscle fibers.
Scroll to about 3:00.
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Speaking of the stretch position, check Kuclo’s range of motion. The dumbbells were getting close to touching the floor on each rep. He was definitely getting a full stretch at the beginning of each rep.
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That's why I think, or suspect, that it's the beginning of the movement where you really stretch and maybe have those micro-tears on the muscle.
You know how many older pros have retracting forearm muscle where the arm loses size and looks like soft rubber eventually. Gnter had that, Branch etc. I think it was someone on here who thought extremely heavy lat pulldowns were to blame, small tears on the forearm. I think there might be something to it.
Loading at the stretched position probably stimulates growth the most but I guess there might be too much stress too.
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I think the band is applied from the wrong direction. In any bicep movement pretty much the first part is the easiest and where the band should be unloading instead. Same with bands from the bottom of a row. The finishing part is where you are the weakest. As you fatigue the range gets shorter and you can no longer finish. There are machines now which takes this into consideration, you can emphasize different parts of the movement depending on where you put the plates - make the finish easier etc.
I never did get this whole band fad.........just use the appropriate amount of weight in perfect form,with a slow negative.
I`m sure there`s some value in them,but it`s a waste of my time personally......beides,Arnold never used them. :)
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I never did get this whole band fad.........just use the appropriate amount of weight in perfect form,with a slow negative.
I`m sure there`s some value in them,but it`s a waste of my time personally......beides,Arnold never used them. :)
They can be useful IMO. They make many movements feel more joint friendly and stable. I have a tendency to start shaking during lifts and bands eliminate this.
I'm trying to figure out how to attach bands to the leg extension at my gym to exaggerate the contraction in the shortened position. It doesn't get trained in any other leg movement.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMZoteLFk1t/?utm_medium=copy_link
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They can be useful IMO. They make many movements feel more joint friendly and stable. I have a tendency to start shaking during lifts and bands eliminate this.
I'm trying to figure out how to attach bands to the leg extension at my gym to exaggerate the contraction in the shortened position. It doesn't get trained in any other leg movement.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMZoteLFk1t/?utm_medium=copy_link
I may look into trying them out....anything to improve is worth a shot I guess.
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I may look into trying them out....anything to improve is worth a shot I guess.
If something hurts, like say a bench press, putting a small band around your back and in each hand can make your shoulders hurt less IME.
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If something hurts, like say a bench press, putting a small band around your back and in each hand can make your shoulders hurt less IME.
Cool..thanks Van.
I see guys using them at the gym all the time....I`ll have to do ome research on the principles behind using them and give them an honest shot.
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Fact of the matter is that most pros use a ton of momentum on everything, much worse than this. Like Ronnie on his T-bar and barbell rows. He used momentum to get the weight moving then slammed his body down to meet the weight lol.
Dusty Hanshaw lifts like that. All momentum on his bent rows,
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You know how many older pros have retracting forearm muscle where the arm loses size and looks like soft rubber eventually. Gnter had that, Branch etc. I think it was someone on here who thought extremely heavy lat pulldowns were to blame, small tears on the forearm. I think there might be something to it.
Loading at the stretched position probably stimulates growth the most but I guess there might be too much stress too.
Yes, some have that but most don't as well: Jay, Nasser, Milos, Flex, Ray, Wolf.... If you look at prime Branch he always had short forearm muscles. Some like Phil Heath has the most impressive ever.
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I never did get this whole band fad.........just use the appropriate amount of weight in perfect form,with a slow negative.
I`m sure there`s some value in them,but it`s a waste of my time personally......beides,Arnold never used them. :)
They came in very, very handy during the lockdown. They were commanding a heavy price. Now they sit in my closet gather dust.
To me, just the weights alone are more than enough. All those bands and chains are not worth it in my opinion. I like to minimize the setup time.
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If something hurts, like say a bench press, putting a small band around your back and in each hand can make your shoulders hurt less IME.
Yes, there's some contraption that almost looks like a bodysuit that a guy at the gym wears. He certainly benches a ton of weight. 500+
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I’m just guessing... but I bet that he started off with 40LB, 60LB, then 80LB, 100LB, then 120LB in his initial sets. Finally had someone record his set with 150LB.
His used some loose form yes, but he was not throwing the weight like Branch Warren
Maybe.
But those "lifts" were like a deadlift with a row at the end.
What he did was not a row.
No matter how you phrase it.
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IFBB Team Underachievers
Kuclo
McMillian
Winklaar
Centopani
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all i see is shrugs and good mornings
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There are guys doin' side laterals with that kind of weight ::)
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all i see is shrugs and good mornings
Which is good because he needs more trap and lower back thickness
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Steve Kuclo might win the Arnold Classic tonight. Apparently it’s between Kuclo and Nick Walker for 1st and 2nd place
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Steve Kuclo might win the Arnold Classic tonight. Apparently it’s between Kuclo and Nick Walker for 1st and 2nd place
I can't see Kucklo winning.
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These guys are beasts, just true monsters. Long live the sport of bodybuilding
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Palumbo said that Kuclo was flat at the prejudging; and that he needs to fill out for the finals
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All these guys look like bandy-legged morons dipped in the River Shitz. WTF with the squatty posing? They're all little guys...They hide away when they pose. They are too big for their own good. The judges all must be size queens. FTN.
No, really. They are stuffed munchkins. Hideous physiques all of them. They look like something a worm-ridden dog shat out on the front lawn.
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Steve has always been strong as hell.
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All these guys look like bandy-legged morons dipped in the River Shitz. WTF with the squatty posing? They're all little guys...They hide away when they pose. They are too big for their own good. The judges all must be size queens. FTN.
No, really. They are stuffed munchkins. Hideous physiques all of them. They look like something a worm-ridden dog shat out on the front lawn.
LOL ';D
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There are guys doin' side laterals with that kind of weight ::)
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What a ridiculous waste of time..................id iot !!! LOL ;D
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15 years ago I thought Kuclo would have a Sandow by now. I was way off.
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15 years ago I thought Kuclo would have a Sandow by now. I was way off.
He'll have a cock in his mouth before a Sandow in his hand.
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He'll have a cock in his mouth before a Sandow in his hand.
But he can have both, a cock in his mouth and hand though
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Kuckelo the Kid, as gh15 called him, went from a kid to an old man quick. He's looked sort of worn out and bloofy for years.
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Kuckelo the Kid, as gh15 called him, went from a kid to an old man quick. He's looked sort of worn out and bloofy for years.
Wasn't he one of ProMus's Golden Boys? Always liked him. Tall and put together well.
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He would struggle to do that with 100 pounds with proper form.
Garbage ego lifting.
Exactly pure ego lifter he looks like shit to
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Wasn't he one of ProMus's Golden Boys? Always liked him. Tall and put together well.
He was in the Danta and Tropopin sphere :D
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He'll have a cock in his mouth before a Sandow in his hand.
But he can have both, a cock in his mouth and hand though
Technically, he can have one in his mouth, and one in each hand, but the Sandow would have to go up his ass
I believe that maneuver is known as ##joke about Joe Weider deleted ##joke about Joe Weider deleted ##joke about Joe Weider deleted ##joke about Joe Weider deleted
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IFBB Team Underachievers
Kuclo
McMillian
Winklaar
Centopani
Cenofpussy has and excuse. Tore his quad tripping on ice.
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If this is what is competing they should change the name of the ASC to the Branch Warren Block Party. It's like a bunch of legos up there.
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Technically, he can have one in his mouth, and one in each hand, but the Sandow would have to go up his ass
I believe that maneuver is known as ##joke about Joe Weider deleted ##joke about Joe Weider deleted ##joke about Joe Weider deleted ##joke about Joe Weider deleted
He’s never going to win a Sandow, so another cock can go right up his ass as well