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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: OlympiaGym on September 20, 2021, 06:34:39 AM
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Who’s buying today? And what are you buying?
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fhizer
thanks boomers
millenials
socialist
democrats
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Waiting for the 30-50% drop before I get excited.
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Index funds only. Total us, total international, and a bond fund. No muss no fuss.
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Fool's game.
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Plunge Protection Team woke up this afternoon.
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crypto
i buy elesium, event horizon, and no homo coin
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Who’s buying today? And what are you buying?
VTSAX
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Time to make some real money, gents.
Hopefully you learned something from the 2008 Obama economic crash.
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Index funds only. Total us, total international, and a bond fund. No muss no fuss.
skip the bonds
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I’m not retiring anytime soon so IDGAF.
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Buy a house watch it go up in value
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Buy a house watch it go up in value
The only investment most will ever need.
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Buy a house watch it go up in value
Maybe depending on location.
I'm in a very good location and my house has increased (based on current value which has wildly fluctuated over the years)
5.4% per year over 23 years.
Big swings in value over those years though with the current value being at the top.
Discounting inflation and maintenance expenditures the gain has not been too impressive...only 2-3% per year.
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The only investment most will ever need.
If you want you and your family to live in poverty.
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Buy a house watch it go up in value
Or watch it go down in value at today's crazy home prices. Nobody know the future.
Better to rent and invest what you'd normally spend in closing costs, mortgage, PMI, home insurance, HOA fees, maintenance and repairs, etc. Renting gives you far more flexibility too.
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One of the historical realities of the stock market is that it typically has performed poorest during the month of September.
Since 1950, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) has averaged a decline of 0.8%, while the S&P 500 has averaged a 0.5% decline during the month of September.
The September Effect is a market anomaly, unrelated to any particular market event or news.
The September Effect is a worldwide phenomenon; it doesn't only affect U.S. markets.
Some analysts consider the negative market effect may be attributable to seasonal behavioral bias as investors make portfolio changes to cash in at summer's end.
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/septworstmonth.asp
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If you want you and your family to live in poverty.
Not at all. A paid off house is the best investment a person can own at retirement. You can easily live off Social Security this way. Having your basic needs met as you become elderly is crucial and more important than digits on a computer screen that are constantly fluctuating.
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I just talked to Wes and he adviced me to invest in egg producers because he can control the demand himself.
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Or watch it go down in value at today's crazy home prices. Nobody know the future.
Better to rent and invest what you'd normally spend in closing costs, mortgage, PMI, home insurance, HOA fees, maintenance and repairs, etc. Renting gives you far more flexibility too.
sorry youre way off , you should own 2 houses one that you live in the other you rent out
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sorry youre way off , you should own 2 houses one that you live in the other you rent out
I thought you meant buy a house to live in as an investment.
If you want to be a real estate investor, then by all means buy not just one but as many rental properties as you can. You better know what you are doing though. And don't be fooled, real estate investing is owning and running a business and it carries its own set of risks.
I know a good number of multimillionaire, long time real estate investors who are actually selling all of their properties now and getting out. The outrageous home prices and new laws pandering to deadbeat renters while vilifying landlords make this move a no brainer to them. They plan to reinvest cash from selling all those properties in index funds and in real estate syndications which are much more passive.
Some people prefer to be passive investors and stick only to index funds and cash, maybe even real estate syndications. For them one house to live in, or no house at all is plenty.
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skip the bonds
Why? I don't have it as something to make a return. It's there as a hedge against the market and to have some sense of security.
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I thought you meant buy a house to live in as an investment.
If you want to be a real estate investor, then by all means buy not just one but as many rental properties as you can. You better know what you are doing though. And don't be fooled, real estate investing is owning and running a business and it carries its own set of risks.
I know a good number of multimillionaire, long time real estate investors who are actually selling all of their properties now and getting out. The outrageous home prices and new laws pandering to deadbeat renters while vilifying landlords make this move a no brainer to them. They plan to reinvest cash from selling all those properties in index funds and in real estate syndications which are much more passive.
Some people prefer to be passive investors and stick only to index funds and cash, maybe even real estate syndications. For them one house to live in, or no house at all is plenty.
You know some poor people.
But I agree with the sentiment. Managing a property portfolio can be a major headache.
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You know some poor people.
But I agree with the sentiment. Managing a property portfolio can be a major headache.
Getbiggers are rare and only date 11s.
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Why? I don't have it as something to make a return. It's there as a hedge against the market and to have some sense of security.
Don't worry about volatility. Put it in stocks and keep it there. Put some in gold if you are nervous. Bonds are a drag on your return and you'll regret it in the long run when you see how much better off you would have been.
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Or watch it go down in value at today's crazy home prices. Nobody know the future.
Better to rent and invest what you'd normally spend in closing costs, mortgage, PMI, home insurance, HOA fees, maintenance and repairs, etc. Renting gives you far more flexibility too.
Where do you live that renting is significantly cheaper than a mortgage payment?
What would you recommend investing the extra money in?
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Why? I don't have it as something to make a return. It's there as a hedge against the market and to have some sense of security.
Because you lock up funds in a bond giving 0.5% yield per annum and forgo having it sit in cash allowing you opportunity to quickly jump into good opportunities.
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You know some poor people.
But I agree with the sentiment. Managing a property portfolio can be a major headache.
You are right. I forgot that these people in the $2M to $10M Net Worth range are poor by Getbig standards. Getbiggers wipe their butts with that kind of money. :D
BTW, in order to be legally authorized to invest in real estate syndications and other securities that are not registered with regulatory authorities like the SEC, they have to be accredited investors.
"To be an accredited investor, a person must have an annual income exceeding $200,000 ($300,000 for joint income) for the last two years with the expectation of earning the same or a higher income in the current year. An individual must have earned income above the thresholds either alone or with a spouse over the last two years. The income test cannot be satisfied by showing one year of an individual's income and the next two years of joint income with a spouse.
A person is also considered an accredited investor if they have a net worth exceeding $1 million, either individually or jointly with their spouse. The SEC also considers a person to be an accredited investor if they are a general partner, executive officer, or director for the company that is issuing the unregistered securities."
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/accreditedinvestor.asp
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Where do you live that renting is significantly cheaper than a mortgage payment?
What would you recommend investing the extra money in?
I didn't say that renting is significantly cheaper than a mortgage payment.
I said that renting is significantly cheaper than the sum of all these: closing costs, mortgage payments, PMI, home insurance, HOA fees, maintenance and repair costs, etc...and I forgot to mention one of the costliest ones, property taxes.
What you invest the extra money in depends on many variables including age, retirement time horizon, personality, etc.
Investing in rental properties is owning and managing a business. It's tedious and a lot of work. Some people enjoy it and live for this kind of investment. Because of leverage (borrowing and therefore investing other people's money) and the tax deductions you get as an investor, real estate investing can get you to your financial goals a lot quicker than you would in other investments. If this is for you, than go for it.
Other people, especially professionals with a decent salary, prefer to invest the extra money passively in stock and bond index funds, and cash. It's easy, just set it and forget it. For this they use their employer retirement plan, Roth IRA, taxable brokerage accounts, CDs, etc., with the bulk of their portfolio invested in stock index funds for fastest growth.
Some people do a combination of mostly real estate and some stock index fund investing or vice versa.
What I tell young people is that as soon as they start earning they invest in an S&P 500 index fund in their employer retirement plan up to the employer match, then open a Roth IRA at Vanguard, invest in VTSAX and max it out every year.
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VTSAX
Why VTSAX instead of s&p 500?
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Why VTSAX instead of s&p 500?
S&P 500 index funds are great too, but they include only large-cap stocks.
Total stock market index funds such as VTSAX are slightly more diversified because they include small-cap, mid-cap, and large-cap stocks. Both indexes represent only U.S. stocks.
Both types of indexes are heavily weighted toward large-cap stocks. So the performance of the two fund types is very similar.
Most employer retirement plans include at least one S&P 500 index fund, but few if any include a total stock market index fund.
At the end of the day it's a matter of preference. I prefer VTSAX because it is slightly more diversified and because the price per share is lower, allowing me to get more shares for my money.
Vanguard 500 Index Fund (VFIAX)
Price as of 09/21/2021: $403.13
Number of stocks: 507
https://investor.vanguard.com/mutual-funds/profile/vfiax
Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTSAX)
Price as of 09/21/2021: $109.53
Number of stocks: 3980
https://investor.vanguard.com/mutual-funds/profile/VTSAX
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The $1million net worth for accredited investors is exclusive of your home value.
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The $1million net worth for accredited investors is exclusive your home value.
Yup, at least $1M in investable assets.
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el pollo loco
multi family real estate
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el pollo loco
multi family real estate
Good for you!