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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: jerseysilverback on September 28, 2021, 06:26:23 AM
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Follow the money.
For more than a year Big Pharma, MSM, Big Tech and the Dem Party have aggressively censored any talk of therapeutics. Most of their attention has been focused on Ivermectin, a drug that has been safely used for 40 years and has shown to be very effective against the Wuhan flu in over 60 studies worldwide. Why have they done this? Money and control. Big Pharma and Big Tech get the money while the Dem party gets the control and 90% of the political donations from Big Pharma and Big Tech. All these actors have blood on their hands.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/pfizer-launches-final-study-covid-drug-thats-suspiciously-similar-ivermectin
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Go figure.
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Here is where you need to be careful of charlatans in the scientific community.
On March 23rd Pfizer put out a press release on an antiviral which is a potent Protease inhibitor. 2 days later on March 25th some folks in Dubai, India put out a paper that Ivermectin also works as a Protease inhibitor. The structures of the 2 drugs are completely different so Ivermectin wouldn't work in the same way.
The real fraud here is they took so long to "develop" this drug. It uses a mechanism of action similar to HIV and hep C drugs, so the ground work for developing it was already there. Instead they went with the vaccines first because it's the big money ticket.
(https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/protease.png?itok=GADGj8zu)
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With more than 60 studies worldwide supporting the efficacy of IVM and renowned frontline Drs advocating for its use (Pierre Kory and Paul Marek), I am very comfortable in taking the position that IVM has benefits with almost no risks. In many countries, Mono Clonal antibodies are not available and the only treatment for the Wuhan flu is bed rest and Advil. Using IVM is entirely logical.
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With more than 60 studies worldwide supporting the efficacy of IVM and renowned frontline Drs advocating for its use (Pierre Kory and Paul Marek), I am very comfortable in taking the position that IVM has benefits with almost no risks. In many countries, Mono Clonal antibodies are not available and the only treatment for the Wuhan flu is bed rest and Advil. Using IVM is entirely logical.
A logical person would be in good health and not worry about a virus that would be harmless to to them. They wouldn't take unproven therapies supported by studies with more holes in them than primemuscles favourite truck stop bathroom stall.
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A logical person would be in good health and not worry about a virus that would be harmless to to them. They wouldn't take unproven therapies supported by studies with more holes in them than primemuscles favourite truck stop bathroom stall.
this, I have no intention of taking anything unless Im ill
Im certainly not taking something for a virus that might give me the sniffles
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A logical person would be in good health and not worry about a virus that would be harmless to to them.
Tell that to all the professional athletes and Olympians who got COVID this year. Were their bodies not healthy enough to fight off the virus?
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Tell that to all the professional athletes and Olympians who got COVID this year. Were their bodies not healthy enough to fight off the virus?
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how many of them died?
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Tell that to all the professional athletes and Olympians who got COVID this year. Were their bodies not healthy enough to fight off the virus?
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Yes, they lived.
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Yes, they lived.
But I thought anti vaxxers believed that you can't get COVID if you're healthy?
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But I thought anti vaxxers believed that you can't get COVID if you're healthy?
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the vast majority of people have already had covid, most didnt even know they had it
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the vast majority of people have already had covid, most didnt even know they had it
Not even close. You couldn't be more wrong. :(
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But I thought anti vaxxers believed that you can't get COVID if you're healthy?
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I never said that.
I've always said the recovery rate for a healthy person like me is high and i should not live in fear.
There is zero reason for me to receive the vax.
I had Covid in April of 2020. 4 people at my office got it from a guy who went to Seattle to see his daughter.
I know two people personally who have died from Covid, one vaxxed and one without. Both obese and diabetic.
It is very real, but very overblown and overreacted to as well.
The problem isn't Covid, it's the unhealthy population of Americans. At least that's my opinion on the death rates.
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Not even close. You couldn't be more wrong. :(
and you know this because?
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and you know this because?
...because I looked up the number of reported COVID cases and it was much less than the number of people in the world? ::)
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...because I looked up the number of reported COVID cases and it was much less than the number of people in the world? ::)
If you dont know you have had it then you wouldnt report it.
As I said the vastr majority will not have any effect from the virus
Here is the UK leading "expert"
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...because I looked up the number of reported COVID cases and it was much less than the number of people in the world? ::)
Doubtful you looked anything up.
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If you dont know you have had it then you wouldnt report it.
As I said the vastr majority will not have any effect from the virus
Here is the UK leading "expert"
That's not at all what you said. You said the majority of people have already had the virus. :(
Look back at your post.
In fact, this guy contradicts MOST of what you've been saying. I can't believe you even posted this.
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Doubtful you looked anything up.
To date there has been 233,491,073 reported cases of COVID.
That's about 3% of the population. 8)
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the vast majority of people have already had covid, most didnt even know they had it
I believe this to be true
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I believe this to be true
I'm sure you do. But you can't just BELIEVE that something is true. That's not how math works. 8)
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Doubtful you looked anything up.
Correct- only up arse as that’s what he talks out of. 🤷🏻♂️
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But I thought anti vaxxers believed that you can't get COVID if you're healthy?
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They get it, and play at the highest level the next week.
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In many countries, Mono Clonal antibodies are not available
In healthy people, natural vaccinated via natural infection without fucboi shots, polyclonal antibodies are widely available and long-term Memory B and T-Cell. FOH!
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Here is where you need to be careful of charlatans in the scientific community.
On March 23rd Pfizer put out a press release on an antiviral which is a potent Protease inhibitor. 2 days later on March 25th some folks in Dubai, India put out a paper that Ivermectin also works as a Protease inhibitor. The structures of the 2 drugs are completely different so Ivermectin wouldn't work in the same way.
The real fraud here is they took so long to "develop" this drug. It uses a mechanism of action similar to HIV and hep C drugs, so the ground work for developing it was already there. Instead they went with the vaccines first because it's the big money ticket.
(https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/protease.png?itok=GADGj8zu)
Why is that the "real fraud"
Vaccines are the first line of defense against severe illness and the best defense to stop the spread
This drug would be administered only after someone was sick so it would do nothing to stop the spread or help eradicate the disease
BTW - I don't know anyone who paid for their vaccination but if you get sick with Covid you'll have to pay for Ivermectin and likely this drug as well (if/when it's actually approved)
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Why is that the "real fraud"
Vaccines are the first line of defense against severe illness and the best defense to stop the spread
This drug would be administered only after someone was sick so it would do nothing to stop the spread or help eradicate the disease
BTW - I don't know anyone who paid for their vaccination but if you get sick with Covid you'll have to pay for Ivermectin and likely this drug as well (if/when it's actually approved)
Your taxes or some variation of it paid for vaccinations. Are you really oblivious to that fact?
There is never gonna be any eradication of the covid-19 even with 100% vaccination uptake. The sooner you except the better, because there is no alternative. Once everyone has been infected the virus becomes even more insignificant than it already is. The solution has always been to let the virus run. A working antiviral would have allowed for this with minimal distribution.
Also lol@ you thinking Vaccines are the first line of defence. No, that would be your immune system. Always has been even for the vaccinated.
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Tell that to all the professional athletes and Olympians who got COVID this year. Were their bodies not healthy enough to fight off the virus?
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Chicken Little makes an appearance. Hello coward.
Those athletes didn't give fuck one about your shit virus.
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Why is that the "real fraud"
Vaccines are the first line of defense against severe illness and the best defense to stop the spread
This drug would be administered only after someone was sick so it would do nothing to stop the spread or help eradicate the disease
BTW - I don't know anyone who paid for their vaccination but if you get sick with Covid you'll have to pay for Ivermectin and likely this drug as well (if/when it's actually approved)
What? The vaccination is free? Pfizer didn't make a penny?
We all paid for the vaccination. Nothing is free. The government can't give anybody anything simply because they have nothing to give. What they "give" to one person they have taken from someone else. The pharm companies have made hundreds of millions off this vaccine. They don't make squat off of Ivermectin let alone Zinc and Vitamin D
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The devaluation of money is what paid for the vaccines. The federal reserve increased its balance sheet assets by $4 trillion in the last two years.
It buys assets with money created out of thin air.
Federal Reserve Board - Recent balance sheet trends
https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttrends.htm
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Chicken Little makes an appearance. Hello coward.
Those athletes didn't give fuck one about your shit virus.
Wow you sure are miserable.
Of course I probably would feel the same way too if my freedom was taken away because I refused the vaccine.
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Wow you sure are miserable.
Of course I probably would feel the same way too if my freedom was taken away because I refused to send my children to a camp to be cleansed..
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where will you make a stand for your beliefs?
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where will you make a stand for your beliefs?
My stand was that I believe in the vaccine…so I got it.
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My stand was that I believe in the vaccine…so I got it.
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if you bend over just a bit more it will make it much easier for them to fuck you up the ass
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if you bend over just a bit more it will make it much easier for them to fuck you up the ass
Actually the vaccine goes in your arm...wrong again.
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Your taxes or some variation of it paid for vaccinations. Are you really oblivious to that fact?
There is never gonna be any eradication of the covid-19 even with 100% vaccination uptake. The sooner you except the better, because there is no alternative. Once everyone has been infected the virus becomes even more insignificant than it already is. The solution has always been to let the virus run. A working antiviral would have allowed for this with minimal distribution.
Also lol@ you thinking Vaccines are the first line of defence. No, that would be your immune system. Always has been even for the vaccinated.
so what
my "taxes" pay for a lot of things but it's not like my tax rate is tied to any specific expenditure
you know this...right?
A vaccine was used to eradicate small pox
Do you think we should have just sat around and waited for our immune system to have done that because we'd still be waiting and in the meantime there would have been millions (if not tens of millions) of unnecessary infections
The vaccine trains your immune system to defend against the virus
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What? The vaccination is free? Pfizer didn't make a penny?
We all paid for the vaccination. Nothing is free. The government can't give anybody anything simply because they have nothing to give. What they "give" to one person they have taken from someone else. The pharm companies have made hundreds of millions off this vaccine. They don't make squat off of Ivermectin let alone Zinc and Vitamin D
Did you pay for it when you got your shot?
If you get infected you're going to have to pay for the Vitamin D, Ivermectin and whatever else Trumptards are stuffing or shooting into their body
Also, in the last three months (June through August) it's estimated that preventable COVID-19 hospitalizations among unvaccinated adults cost over $5 Billion
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/unvaccinated-covid-patients-cost-the-u-s-health-system-billions-of-dollars/
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so what
my "taxes" pay for a lot of things but it's not like my tax rate is tied to any specific expenditure
you know this...right?
A vaccine was used to eradicate small pox
Do you think we should have just sat around and waited for our immune system to have done that because we'd still be waiting and in the meantime there would have been millions (if not tens of millions) of unnecessary infections
Poor example. Cowpox worked perfectly well as a natural vaccine before a man made vaccine emerged. But why am I not surprised that you wouldn't know something like this.
Also why are are avoiding the fact that vaccine manufacturers (pfizer and moderna) enriched themselves and are trying to argue the point that you didn't directly pay for it? I guess the intricacies of something like this go over your head.
"The vaccine trains your immune system to defend against the virus". At least you learnt something there. You're welcome.
Please be better in your next response.
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Did you pay for it when you got your shot?
If you get infected you're going to have to pay for the Vitamin D, Ivermectin and whatever else Trumptards are stuffing or shooting into their body
Also, in the last three months (June through August) it's estimated that preventable COVID-19 hospitalizations among unvaccinated adults cost over $5 Billion
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/unvaccinated-covid-patients-cost-the-u-s-health-system-billions-of-dollars/
Do you pay every time you drive on the freeway? Do you pay when a police arrests a criminal? You are implying that the vaccines are free. They are not? Just because it's a third party that's paying the money is still coming from you. Money that could have gone to other things like schools or paying down the debt. Again, I am not saying nor am I against the vaccine but it is not free and it is being used as a cash cow as other treatments are discouraged and even prohibited as the pharm company's don't make money with those alternative treatments. More booster shots mean more money.
I'd rather take vitamin D and Zinc and pay for it directly than get another booster shot and I should be free to do so just as you should be free to take whatever shot you want.
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Governments dont have any money, the only money they spend is that which is accrued from taxation and the money created out of thin air that the tax payer has to pay back
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Governments dont have any money, the only money they spend is that which is accrued from taxation and the money created out of thin air that the tax payer has to pay back
You're completely wrong...as usual.
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You're completely wrong...as usual.
Where does the government get its money?
The government raises around £800 billion in revenue each year. Most comes from the three biggest taxes: income tax, National Insurance contributions (NICs) and VAT.
https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/key-questions/where-does-government-get-its-money
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What? The vaccination is free? Pfizer didn't make a penny?
They don't make squat off of Ivermectin let alone Zinc and Vitamin D
Depending on what someone considers 'squat' it seems 'they' all make something. The bottom line is that nothing is free.
Merck manufactures ivermectin, brand name STROMECTOL. Stromectol/ivermectin is a prescription medicine used to treat the symptoms of certain parasite infections. Walmart charges $77.05 for ivermectin. It can be purchased for as little as $29.72 for 20 tablets, 3 mg. at QFC.
The median cost of a to your primary care physician in 2021 without insurance $471. With insurance your co-pay can be as little as $10. Insurance providers discount the doctor's expense.
Amazon sells a 30 count zinc for $15.99 and a one-year supply (360 ct) of vitamin D3 for $14.99
The U.S. (with taxpayer's money) is paying $19.50 for each Pfizer dose. Moderna ranges between $32 to $37 per dose. Johnson and Johnson is $10 a dose. Novavax’s two-dose vaccine is estimated to be $16 a dose. AstraZeneca’s two-dose vaccine is cheapest at just $3 to $4 a dose.
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Poor example. Cowpox worked perfectly well as a natural vaccine before a man made vaccine emerged. But why am I not surprised that you wouldn't know something like this.
Also why are are avoiding the fact that vaccine manufacturers (pfizer and moderna) enriched themselves and are trying to argue the point that you didn't directly pay for it? I guess the intricacies of something like this go over your head.
"The vaccine trains your immune system to defend against the virus". At least you learnt something there. You're welcome.
Please be better in your next response.
If the cowpox vaccine was so great than why did we need to make a new vaccine in order to actually eradicate the disease?
Yes, the vaccine trains your immune system to defend against the virus
Glad we agree on that basic fact
The next part of that sentence would be "without making you sick with the actual disease"
you knew that ...right
that's why it's better to get the vaccine than wait around to get the disease and then hope you recover
We also know that unvaccinated people are much more likely to get infected than vaccinated people much more likely to be so sick that they require hospitalization. And of course much more likely to die from Covid as well
Unvaccinated people are about 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid-19 than those who are fully vaccinated, according to a study released Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The new study, published in the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that unvaccinated people were nearly five times more likely to be infected with Covid than people who got the shots. The results are based on data from Los Angeles County between May 1 and July 25, the agency said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-study-shows-unvaccinated-people-are-29-times-more-likely-to-be-hospitalized-with-covid.html
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/10/1036023973/covid-19-unvaccinated-deaths-11-times-more-likely
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Do you pay every time you drive on the freeway? Do you pay when a police arrests a criminal? You are implying that the vaccines are free. They are not? Just because it's a third party that's paying the money is still coming from you. Money that could have gone to other things like schools or paying down the debt. Again, I am not saying nor am I against the vaccine but it is not free and it is being used as a cash cow as other treatments are discouraged and even prohibited as the pharm company's don't make money with those alternative treatments. More booster shots mean more money.
I'd rather take vitamin D and Zinc and pay for it directly than get another booster shot and I should be free to do so just as you should be free to take whatever shot you want.
I didn't pay for it out of my pocket and my taxes liability didn't go up by one cent due to the vaccine
How about you?
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Where does the government get its money?
The government raises around £800 billion in revenue each year. Most comes from the three biggest taxes: income tax, National Insurance contributions (NICs) and VAT.
https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/key-questions/where-does-government-get-its-money
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Fair enough. I keep forgetting that you're from the UK and not Canada like myself.
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that's why it's better to get the vaccine than wait around to get the disease and then hope you recover
That's far too much of a blanket statement as that's definitely not the case for everyone. Sure there is large percentage of the population who should get vaccinated, but have chose not and it will cost them dearly. Fuck em though, I have no sympathy for them.
But don't fall for the government BS and Biden spouting a 98% vaccine uptake before things can get normal. Give it maybe a month, or an increase in vaccine uptake to around 70% and watch they'll end restrictions, mandates and tell everyone to go back to normal and to act as if there was no virus.
I'll bump this post come that time to remind you that you were just a stooge.
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That's far too much of a blanket statement as that's definitely not the case for everyone. Sure there is large percentage of the population who should get vaccinated, but have chose not and it will cost them dearly. Fuck em though, I have no sympathy for them.
But don't fall for the government BS and Biden spouting a 98% vaccine uptake before things can get normal. Give it maybe a month, or an increase in vaccine uptake to around 70% and watch they'll end restrictions, mandates and tell everyone to go back to normal and to act as if there was no virus.
I'll bump this post come that time to remind you that you were just a stooge.
Can you give us your medical opinion on who should and should not get the vaccine and why and then explain why I was a "stooge" for getting it along with a few hundred million other people in my country?
We were back to normal where I live (San Jose) in June and we weren't at 98% vaccinated rate
I think where I live in now above 80% vaccination and when they lift the mask mandate I'm sure some people will still choose to wear one
It's potentially much more expensive to wait to get Covid than to get the free vaccine
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/covid-19-medical-bills/36588017#
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If you dont know you have had it then you wouldnt report it.
Which is where I think I fit in. I got sick immediately as covid hit my area very early on. It was a very odd illness and some things happened that I was confused by. By the time I really knew what covid was, I was feeling better. I never went to the doctor, I never took any medicine other than over the counter stuff, I never reported this to my doctor or anyone. Maybe it wasn't covid, maybe it was. Regardless it doesn't show up in the numbers.
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Actually the vaccine goes in your arm...wrong again.
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Actually, it disrupts cellular enzymes and doesn't stay localized in your arm like it was advertised to. See you in 10 years with a possible cancer story and lawsuit. #5BillionInSuits #TalcumPowder
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To date there has been 233,491,073 reported cases of COVID.
That's about 3% of the population. 8)
Wow. Its only a matter of time before this really spreads then.
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Wow. Its only a matter of time before this really spreads then.
its already spread, those cases are likley the number of people who were effected by it everyone lese just shrugged it off and got on with life like nothing happened.
a bit like a flu season.
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You're completely wrong...as usual.
Tell us then, where does the government get all their money to fund all their programs?
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I didn't pay for it out of my pocket and my taxes liability didn't go up by one cent due to the vaccine
How about you?
You can say the same thing about Public Schools, the Police and Fire Departments, the roads you drive on... that doesn't mean it's free.
Again, where did the government get the money to pay for the vaccine? Where does the government get the money to pay for anything?
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These arguments about taxes are a ruse. You have a federal reserve that has just printed for $4 trillion out of thin air. This is a hidden tax in the form of inflation. Karens and Canadian Marks don’t have the financial acumen to understand this.
How Canadians are dealing with rising food prices amid inflationary pressures
https://news.yahoo.com/how-canadians-are-dealing-with-rising-food-prices-amid-inflationary-pressures-170648320.html
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If they would not be dismissing nurses for refusing vaccinations they would not have to close units and they would not be overwhelmed. Great idea Joe to fire experienced nurses in the midst of a pandemic while allowing unvaccinated immigrants to be placed throughout the nation. And the idea that vaccinated people are at risk from nonvaccinated people is just ridiculous unless of course, the vaccine is ineffective and if that is true why get vaccinated in the first place? Masks are essential and wise when indoors. Barrier methods have always been used successfully. Israel has a very high percentage of its population vaccinated and even now there is a discussion of a possible fourth injection (That fool Oak got his yet?). It's looking more and more like the vaccine is not as effective as it's said to be. Now it's revealed that part of the infrastructure bill penalizes employers who keep unvaccinated workers on their staff with fines of thousands of dollars for each unvaccinated worker. Does anyone think the infrastructure bill is really about infrastructure? This whole covid calamity has so many political and financial variables to confuse people as the Biden Administration and the compliant media spread fear and panic in order to accomplish political goals and to obtain financial rewards
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These arguments about taxes are a ruse. You have a federal reserve that has just printed for $4 trillion out of thin air. This is a hidden tax in the form of inflation. Karens and Canadian Marks don’t have the financial acumen to understand this.
How Canadians are dealing with rising food prices amid inflationary pressures
https://news.yahoo.com/how-canadians-are-dealing-with-rising-food-prices-amid-inflationary-pressures-170648320.html
Liberals don't understand this.
They don't see a problem in just printing more money.
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You can say the same thing about Public Schools, the Police and Fire Departments, the roads you drive on... that doesn't mean it's free.
Again, where did the government get the money to pay for the vaccine? Where does the government get the money to pay for anything?
I just happened to have filed my taxes today (did an extension as I do pretty much every year)
This year I paid $ 43,206 in Federal Income Tax
That's more than I paid last year
Do you think my taxes went up this year because they built some new roads or a school or created a vaccine ?
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I just happened to have filed my taxes today (did an extension as I do pretty much every year)
This year I paid $ 43,206 in Federal Income Tax
That's more than I paid last year
Do you think my taxes went up this year because they built some new roads or a school or created a vaccine ?
It doesn't matter. The point is that the government can't give anything for free simply because it has nothing to give. What they give to one they have taken from others.
The government realized early on that most people think like you. The smartest thing they ever did was the withholdings. Taking your money before you ever see it. Before you got a tax bill and had to pay it monthly. Imagine how hard it would be to raise your taxes if they did that? People scream when their electric bill goes up $30. If it is taken before you even see it you just passively accept it.
Whenever things get tight with you financially you have to tighten your belt. Cut back a little. Not the government. They just take more of your money and most people are like you. "My cup of coffee didn't go up.", "I never miss my anabolic window." Little by little they take more and more. You never see how things would be if people were allowed to spend more of their own money. Imagine what you could do with an extra 20 grand? Pump it back into the economy creating more and better paying jobs. Money is always spent more wisely by those who had to earn it than those who just take it from those who earn it.
Our country is in massive debt but you don't feel it personally. You drive around with a full tank of gas, wear nice clothes, eat out, pretty much live a nice comfortable life. As long as you are doing OK then what does it matter. You take these things for granted and when the time comes when it does hit home it's too late.
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Your taxes or some variation of it paid for vaccinations. Are you really oblivious to that fact?
There is never gonna be any eradication of the covid-19 even with 100% vaccination uptake. The sooner you accept the better, because there is no alternative. Once everyone has been infected the virus becomes even more insignificant than it already is. The solution has always been to let the virus run. A working antiviral would have allowed for this with minimal distribution.
Also lol@ you thinking Vaccines are the first line of defence. No, that would be your immune system. Always has been even for the vaccinated.
Bump for all the snowflakes and gullibles who thought there was any outcome other than this.
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I just happened to have filed my taxes today (did an extension as I do pretty much every year)
This year I paid $ 43,206 in Federal Income Tax
That's more than I paid last year
Do you think my taxes went up this year because they built some new roads or a school or created a vaccine ?
Brutal if true