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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SOMEPARTS on October 03, 2021, 07:59:05 AM
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"any questions about this sack of shit and his lying?" ;D
What's his Getbig handle? Killed him DEAD. Worth watching the whole thing.
Bodybuildiing related because Dana upped the dose.
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tren rage...
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Dana hates Oscar because he reminds him each time how little he pays his fighters.
I have more respect to Oscar for what he accomplished than Dana who never been in a ring or octagon his whole life.
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Oscar pays the fighters millions for one fight. Dana pays top fighters chump change while he puts the money in his pocket.
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Dana hates Oscar because he reminds him each time how little he pays his fighters.
I have more respect to Oscar for what he accomplished than Dana who never been in a ring or octagon his whole life.
Pretty much.
Oscar is in the Boxing Hall of Fame and was a 10X World Champion. Golden Boy Productions is very successful.
Dana was a coke dealing bellman in Boston with good timing and unsurpassed good luck.
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If you watch the video, you’ll see that Dana made a lot of great points.
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On a positive note; my friend ran into Dana White a few years ago. I believe it was outside of a restaurant. Dana was gracious enough to shake my friends hand. Dana also was nice enough to be in a photograph with my friend.
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Pretty much.
Oscar is in the Boxing Hall of Fame and was a 10X World Champion. Golden Boy Productions is very successful.
Dana was a coke dealing bellman in Boston with good timing and unsurpassed good luck.
Let's not forget Dana was an aerobics guru. 👏🏻
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Nobody is forcing anybody to fight for the UFC. Anybody that has competed in martial art tournaments not only does it for no pay, but they also pay to compete. Most people who train in MMA do it for free and end one paying a lot to train and compete. In my day, it would cost $60 to compete in a BJJ tournament and paid $240 a month for groups classes and a once week private session with Rickson. You get paid by the amount of money you generate. Many fighters have become millionaires in the UFC. Something they would not have done doing anything else in their life. All transactions are between the buyer and the seller. It's nobody else's business to tell a buyer how much they should pay or how much the seller should receive.
If competing in the UFC is so horrible that fighters are treated so unfairly and exploited, how come thousands and thousands devote their lives to brutal training and competition to be able to fight in the UFC? That their ultimate dream is to walk down that ramp and enter the Octagon under the UFC banner?
Dana White grew that sport into a massive worldwide empire and created a lot of millionaires in their own right and enabled people to support their families and increased opportunities and pay far beyond what the fighters got during the Tank Abbot era. It came so close to failing altogether.
And when our government told him he can't have his events anymore, he just said "fuck you" and built his own empire in Abu Dhabi keeping athletes and employees active.
And LOL @ calling Dana a drug dealer and a cuck when it is well known that it is Oscar that's the coke head and a crossdressing cuck.
(http://thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/assets/oscar1.jpg)
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On a positive note; my friend ran into Dana White a few years ago. I believe it was outside of a restaurant. Dana was gracious enough to shake my friends hand. Dana also was nice enough to be in a photograph with my friend.
And he supports Trump and is not afraid to say so. Also, is considered an insane tipper in Vegas. Some claim that they had their life changed just by the amount that Dana tipped them.
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You can tell who watched the video and who didn't by the comments.
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Dana White runs good business, he pays his fighters well but not so much that they fight once a year or less. Boxing didn't die it committed suicide, the top guys self promoted made good money and never fought enough. UFC with its frequent fight cards came in and filled the hole and then some. Money killed boxing, and it could do the same to the UFC, Dana is doing an excellent job protecting that from happening.
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Dana White runs good business, he pays his fighters well but not so much that they fight once a year or less. Boxing didn't die it committed suicide, the top guys self promoted made good money and never fought enough. UFC with its frequent fight cards came in and filled the hole and then some. Money killed boxing, and it could do the same to the UFC, Dana is doing an excellent job protecting that from happening.
Yes, in boxing the top fighters choose who they want to fight. In the UFC it's not up to you. Dana is right in that they run their sport as a business.
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Yes, in boxing the top fighters choose who they want to fight. In the UFC it's not up to you. Dana is right in that they run their sport as a business.
Every fight offer can be turned down or accepted it is always up to the fighter who they fight
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Nobody is forcing anybody to fight for the UFC. Anybody that has competed in martial art tournaments not only does it for no pay, but they also pay to compete. Most people who train in MMA do it for free and end one paying a lot to train and compete. In my day, it would cost $60 to compete in a BJJ tournament and paid $240 a month for groups classes and a once week private session with Rickson. You get paid by the amount of money you generate. Many fighters have become millionaires in the UFC. Something they would not have done doing anything else in their life. All transactions are between the buyer and the seller. It's nobody else's business to tell a buyer how much they should pay or how much the seller should receive.
If competing in the UFC is so horrible that fighters are treated so unfairly and exploited, how come thousands and thousands devote their lives to brutal training and competition to be able to fight in the UFC? That their ultimate dream is to walk down that ramp and enter the Octagon under the UFC banner?
Dana White grew that sport into a massive worldwide empire and created a lot of millionaires in their own right and enabled people to support their families and increased opportunities and pay far beyond what the fighters got during the Tank Abbot era. It came so close to failing altogether.
And when our government told him he can't have his events anymore, he just said "fuck you" and built his own empire in Abu Dhabi keeping athletes and employees active.
And LOL @ calling Dana a drug dealer and a cuck when it is well known that it is Oscar that's the coke head and a crossdressing cuck.
(http://thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/assets/oscar1.jpg)
I guess you are not familiar with concepts like collective bargaining and benefits like insurance and retirement paid holidays salaries etc etc you then mention how much a fighter should be paid without mentioning the concept of open market bidding which restrictive UFC contracts do not allow there is a reason they don't want to be under the Ali act
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Every fight offer can be turned down or accepted it is always up to the fighter who they fight
No shit Sherlock. But turn down a fight offered to you and see how you career with the UFC goes.
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I guess you are not familiar with concepts like collective bargaining and benefits like insurance and retirement paid holidays salaries etc etc you then mention how much a fighter should be paid without mentioning the concept of open market bidding which restrictive UFC contracts do not allow there is a reason they don't want to be under the Ali act
What a colossal ignoramus you are. I never mentioned squat a how much I think a fighter should be paid. They should get paid whatever they can get and the UFC should pay them whatever they can get away with. That's the free market. Benefits are just that, extras that go back to WW2 when the government placed a limit on how much an employer can pay an employee and employers had to find other ways to compensate prospective high-quality employees. As usual, when a third party gets involved, and it's usually the government, it mucks up the system. Now benefits such as health care, vacations, paid leave have now become entitlements.
You are just beyond ignorant and uneducated. Just shut up already.
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A dirtbag with a borderline monopoly calling out a cokehead with a spoon up his behind. White is the son Don King always wanted. Don King was able to put on massive top-tier cards with brand names just like the UFC, literally with fighters signing blank contracts and no one complained. Witherspoon received a car and condo for a title defense while King put a million or 2 in his pocket.
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You can tell who watched the video and who didn't by the comments.
It was excellent. Dana took him apart.
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A dirtbag with a borderline monopoly calling out a cokehead with a spoon up his behind. White is the son Don King always wanted. Don King was able to put on massive top-tier cards with brand names just like the UFC, literally with fighters signing blank contracts and no one complained. Witherspoon received a car and condo for a title defense while King put a million or 2 in his pocket.
How would you run the UFC that is now worth 10 billion dollars and employs almost 1,400 people, many of them millionaires in their own right?
With other promotions like Bellator and One Championship, why is it still every fighter's dream to compete in the UFC?
Why is he a dirtbag and what exactly is a "borderline" monopoly? What is a "literally blank contract" and how do you know that's what the athlete's signed? Do you resent or begrudge people like Don King and Dana White making millions? How about Connor McGregor, Khabib or GSP being muliti millionaires before they were even 30 years old? Why weren't they exploited like supposedly other fighter's are?
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How would you run the UFC that is now worth 10 billion dollars and employs almost 1,400 people, many of them millionaires in their own right?
With other promotions like Bellator and One Championship, why is it still every fighter's dream to compete in the UFC?
Why is he a dirtbag and what exactly is a "borderline" monopoly? What is a "literally blank contract" and how do you know that's what the athlete's signed? Do you resent or begrudge people like Don King and Dana White making millions? How about Connor McGregor, Khabib or GSP being muliti millionaires before they were even 30 years old? Why weren't they exploited like supposedly other fighter's are?
I don't even follow the UFC. He and Oscar are good targets. Outside of that I could care less.
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What a colossal ignoramus you are. I never mentioned squat a how much I think a fighter should be paid. They should get paid whatever they can get and the UFC should pay them whatever they can get away with. That's the free market. Benefits are just that, extras that go back to WW2 when the government placed a limit on how much an employer can pay an employee and employers had to find other ways to compensate prospective high-quality employees. As usual, when a third party gets involved, and it's usually the government, it mucks up the system. Now benefits such as health care, vacations, paid leave have now become entitlements.
You are just beyond ignorant and uneducated. Just shut up already.
UFC is a monopoly not a free market idiot in a free market other promoters would purse bid on your fight line in boxing
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UFC for sure had first mover advantage as far as branding but if they were not running their business correctly(and that includes fighter pay)...there would be more competition.
Look at pro wrestling. WWE had that on lock but slipped up with their product and now you have a couple major competitors.
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;D
Nobody is forcing anybody to fight for the UFC. Anybody that has competed in martial art tournaments not only does it for no pay, but they also pay to compete. Most people who train in MMA do it for free and end one paying a lot to train and compete. In my day, it would cost $60 to compete in a BJJ tournament and paid $240 a month for groups classes and a once week private session with Rickson. You get paid by the amount of money you generate. Many fighters have become millionaires in the UFC. Something they would not have done doing anything else in their life. All transactions are between the buyer and the seller. It's nobody else's business to tell a buyer how much they should pay or how much the seller should receive.
If competing in the UFC is so horrible that fighters are treated so unfairly and exploited, how come thousands and thousands devote their lives to brutal training and competition to be able to fight in the UFC? That their ultimate dream is to walk down that ramp and enter the Octagon under the UFC banner?
Dana White grew that sport into a massive worldwide empire and created a lot of millionaires in their own right and enabled people to support their families and increased opportunities and pay far beyond what the fighters got during the Tank Abbot era. It came so close to failing altogether.
And when our government told him he can't have his events anymore, he just said "fuck you" and built his own empire in Abu Dhabi keeping athletes and employees active.
And LOL @ calling Dana a drug dealer and a cuck when it is well known that it is Oscar that's the coke head and a crossdressing cuck.
(http://thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/assets/oscar1.jpg)
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UFC is a monopoly not a free market idiot in a free market other promoters would purse bid on your fight line in boxing
It is not a monopoly. There are other MMA organizations but most competitors want to compete in UFC because it's the best.
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I don't even follow the UFC. He and Oscar are good targets. Outside of that I could care less.
Props on your honesty. That makes sense.
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UFC is a monopoly not a free market idiot in a free market other promoters would purse bid on your fight line in boxing
No, idiot, there are other MMA promotions. Being under contract does not make it a monopoly.
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It is not a monopoly. There are other MMA organizations but most competitors want to compete in UFC because it's the best.
Every post that grandpa Bhanks makes is thrown back in his face.
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Every post that grandpa Bhanks makes is thrown back in his face.
It won't be the last.
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Nobody is forcing anybody to fight for the UFC. Anybody that has competed in martial art tournaments not only does it for no pay, but they also pay to compete. Most people who train in MMA do it for free and end one paying a lot to train and compete. In my day, it would cost $60 to compete in a BJJ tournament and paid $240 a month for groups classes and a once week private session with Rickson. You get paid by the amount of money you generate. Many fighters have become millionaires in the UFC. Something they would not have done doing anything else in their life. All transactions are between the buyer and the seller. It's nobody else's business to tell a buyer how much they should pay or how much the seller should receive.
If competing in the UFC is so horrible that fighters are treated so unfairly and exploited, how come thousands and thousands devote their lives to brutal training and competition to be able to fight in the UFC? That their ultimate dream is to walk down that ramp and enter the Octagon under the UFC banner?
Dana White grew that sport into a massive worldwide empire and created a lot of millionaires in their own right and enabled people to support their families and increased opportunities and pay far beyond what the fighters got during the Tank Abbot era. It came so close to failing altogether.
And when our government told him he can't have his events anymore, he just said "fuck you" and built his own empire in Abu Dhabi keeping athletes and employees active.
And LOL @ calling Dana a drug dealer and a cuck when it is well known that it is Oscar that's the coke head and a crossdressing cuck.
(http://thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/assets/oscar1.jpg)
It's the only game in town. Think Belator is paying? Of course those that want to make a living off of MMA have to grovel to Dana. For every millionaire fighter in the UFC there are guys fighting on the main card for 200K I bet. I don't know the exact figure because by contract they can't bring it up without being sued. Fight for a boxing championship and guys a getting paid 5-10- 20plus million for the fight. I see the pay per view numbers are very high for the UFC so they are taking in the bucks. I bet Jones dosen't get more than 2 million to fight and he's the best fighter they have.
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It is not a monopoly. There are other MMA organizations but most competitors want to compete in UFC because it's the best.
This reminds me of NFL vs AFL. NBA vs ABA.
Dana did make some good points. He still looks like an average fat guy on TRT.
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De la Hoya has a very bad reputation in the business world of combat sports. He has been in and out of court multiple times, and just lost the biggest commodity in boxing, Canelo Alvarez who said the exact same thing White is saying, that Oscar is an alcoholic drug addict who doesn't know how to run the business. Why would a guy like Alvarez, with a $300 million+ contract with Golden Boy go to court and demand to be released from that contract?
As far as fighter pay, it's a lot more complicated than greed. If you pay a main event too much, undercard fighters, advertisers, venues, ppv streams, etc will get less and you have problems. That's what De la Hoya did with Canelo. His huge contract made the PPV distributor complain and want money comparable to what Canelo was getting, so Oscar didn't now how to run the business and lost his main attraction. Look at Mcmahon's WBF experiment. Threw tons of money at the bodybuilders to get the names, but then didn't have proper money to build the brand. Then Vince tried the opposite approach with the XFL and had no name players but a shitload of money in promotion and branding and failed again. It's a fine balancing act to run a sports/entertainment business and Dana White is a master at it.
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It's the only game in town. Think Belator is paying? Of course those that want to make a living off of MMA have to grovel to Dana. For every millionaire fighter in the UFC there are guys fighting on the main card for 200K I bet. I don't know the exact figure because by contract they can't bring it up without being sued. Fight for a boxing championship and guys a getting paid 5-10- 20plus million for the fight. I see the pay per view numbers are very high for the UFC so they are taking in the bucks. I bet Jones dosen't get more than 2 million to fight and he's the best fighter they have.
And those guys making only 200 grand, what else would they be doing? Being a bouncer, personal trainer, maybe a cop or fireman if they are somewhat intelligent.
Again, it's a free market. What do you want to do? Pass a law forcing the UFC to pay a certain amount to every fighter? If so, how much and who should decide? There are a lot of fighters on contract that you've never heard of. If you substantially increase the cost for a fighter's contract would that be an incentive to increase or decrease the number of fighters you have on the payroll? It took 10 years for Dustin Poirier to make a name for himself. Charles Olivier fought for 11 years before finally getting a title shot. Will either of those two have been kept on the payroll if the UFC was forced to pay them a certain amount they would not pay giving a free market?