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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: sarcasm on April 23, 2006, 09:06:38 AM
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i'm sure i speak for 99.99999 percent of getbiggers when i say that we'd love to have you on here posting, you are the uncrowned Mr. O as far as i'm concerned and having you posting here would definitely make getbig the number one site on the net.
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Id love to see jay too though you know what would hapen unfortunbately
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Id love to see jay too though you know what would hapen unfortunbately
i would personally verbally crucify any Jay bashers.
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why? only to be flamed by a bunch of 16 year old guys who have never picked a weight in their life?
no, Jay would be treated with respect gauranteed, i think that the pressure that most posters would put on any haters would be enough to keep them in check, Jay is easily the hardest working pro and the man has a wealth of knowledge that we could all learn from.
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no, Jay would be treated with respect gauranteed, i think that the pressure that most posters would put on any haters would be enough to keep them in check, Jay is easily the hardest working pro and the man has a wealth of knowledge that we could all learn from.
i'd love to see jay here, but i'm afraid our "guarantees" are insufficient and incredible.
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i wish Ron could talk to him and get him to come on here i'm pretty sure he knows him well, he would be an awesome contributor to the board.
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that would be sweeet to bad jay is busy all day responding to emails ::)
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even we post our questions in a seperated thread and in a locked thread he answers
our guarentees also mean nothing. tho i think he would get a hell of a lot of respect and support following the first week or so of flaming from a miniority
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lets all send him a email telling him to post on getbig :D
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I agree- let's get Jay Cutler on here. Peer pressure will put down any negativity from idiots with unwarranted bashing.
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Its a sad thing when the reasons that makes these boards good (pros) wont post here cus they get f**ked on! but i think jay wud be treated pretty well in comparison to some pros on here
But wat about the whole "jaw gutler" thing i mean he's had a lot of stick about that (not from me) and thats when he doesnt even post here
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that would be sweeet to bad jay is busy all day responding to emails ::)
he could just open this up and leave it on and respond to his e-mails too, he's almost gauranteed to sell more DVD's and other stuff if he comes on here with all the traffic, there's a lot of Jay fans on here.
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that would be sweeet to bad jay is busy all day responding to emails ::)
hmmmm this gives me an idea ;D
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when you really think about it the majority of bashing on here is just regular posters bashing other regular posters not pros.
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Send him an email:
http://www.jaycutler.com/sub/contact.htm
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what about rhino
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I think sarcasm has been jotting down future "ownings" he has lined up for jay
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I think sarcasm has been jotting down future "ownings" he has lined up for jay
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absolutely not, i give my word that if i post one negative thing about Jay that Ron can ban me that very minute.
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Rhino is a regular contributor on boom7, where he posts all the time on the PDI board. His new interview is also on Getbig's new Z board- Business & Making a living in the BBing Industry
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Jay would be a great Squad member too.
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Jay would be a great Squad member too.
It is my hope Jay does not end up here. The man has much more sense than that.
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It is my hope Jay does not end up here. The man has much more sense than that.
::) yeah i can see u posted that with the boards best interests at heart!
i mean c'mon how is Getbig gonna get any better if we dont try and i for one think Jay wud be treated well!
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It is my hope Jay does not end up here. The man has much more sense than that.
in all seriousness this is the type of negativity that we don't need.
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in all seriousness this is the type of negativity that we don't need.
Any pro would get bashed
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Any pro would get bashed
Jay wouldn't, and if he did by one or two members the majority of posters would crush them and run them off the threads.
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Really, all flaming aside, people are generally treated right here.
There are a few clowns here who hate on everyone. But normally, guys like Rich Jones, Garrett, Jimmy Mentis, Lee Priest, Dex, melvin, Milos, DJ, and others, get lots of love and HONEST words from the fans. They get phoniness on the other sites.
And guys like Bob and Shawn, who get heat here--- they enjoy it and instigate it on a regular basis.
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Really, all flaming aside, people are generally treated right here.
There are a few clowns here who hate on everyone. But normally, guys like Rich Jones, Garrett, Jimmy Mentis, Lee Priest, Dex, melvin, Milos, DJ, and others, get lots of love and HONEST words from the fans. They get phoniness on the other sites.
And guys like Bob and Shawn, who get heat here--- they enjoy it and instigate it on a regular basis.
The first thing he would hear is crap about his jaw. He's from Massachussetts, everyone has big jaws there.
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The first thing he would hear is crap about his jaw. He's from Massachussetts, everyone has big jaws there.
What's wrong with you? Cutler is reading this thread, right now, gauging the pulse of getbig, and you write stuff like this.
Keith, keep it positive, bro.
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What's wrong with you? Cutler is reading this thread, right now, gauging the pulse of getbig, and you write stuff like this.
Keith, keep it positive, bro.
You won't me to lie? I'm sure you would be the first one to start things. Are you saying you have never referred to any of this?!
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Really, all flaming aside, people are generally treated right here.
There are a few clowns here who hate on everyone. But normally, guys like Rich Jones, Garrett, Jimmy Mentis, Lee Priest, Dex, melvin, Milos, DJ, and others, get lots of love and HONEST words from the fans. They get phoniness on the other sites.
And guys like Bob and Shawn, who get heat here--- they enjoy it and instigate it on a regular basis.
i wudnt normally agree but i think getbig is getting better lately
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why? only to be flamed by a bunch of 16 year old guys who have never picked a weight in their life?
lol, thats 99.99999% of getbiggers.
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I'd bet money on him lurking here. He mentioned in one of the muscle rags that he doesn't read message boards. That's such a crock of shit. How could he not be tempted? He does most of his business on the net' and we're just one click away.
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Jay is definitely here now and then. Especially when those precontest Ronnie pics are posted.
Jay, if you're reading this, Happy Birthday (see: Left tricep)!
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this is very strange coming from Sarcasm.
anyway, jay doesnt have time to surf Getbig, hes too busy cooking and eating and brushing his teeth.
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this is very strange coming from Sarcasm.
anyway, jay doesnt have time to surf Getbig, hes too busy cooking and eating and brushing his teeth.
Bullshit. I'm almost certain he's a lurker. Many first tier pros that pretend to be above posting on message boards lurk. It's human nature. Especially people with fragile egos like pro bodybuilders.
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Bullshit. I'm almost certain he's a lurker. Many first tier pros that pretend to be above posting on message boards lurk. It's human nature. Especially people with fragile egos like pro bodybuilders.
Plus, it would be a strategic mistake NOT to check out the pre-O pics that get posted. If Ronnie is coming in 10 pounds lighter or heavier than usual, it would DEFINITELY benefit Jay to know so he can plan his diet accordingly.
Likewise, with that weak arm on coleman and the PDI pressing aesthetics, Jay would probably be smart to emphasize symmetry this year, and see if the O judges want him to carry the torch for 3 years so that the BBing fans have a familiar Mr O to root for when Wayne brings the pain.
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Plus, it would be a strategic mistake NOT to check out the pre-O pics that get posted. If Ronnie is coming in 10 pounds lighter or heavier than usual, it would DEFINITELY benefit Jay to know so he can plan his diet accordingly.
Likewise, with that weak arm on coleman and the PDI pressing aesthetics, Jay would probably be smart to emphasize symmetry this year, and see if the O judges want him to carry the torch for 3 years so that the BBing fans have a familiar Mr O to root for when Wayne brings the pain.
I'm sure Jay would find out before some message board.
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I'm sure Jay would find out before some message board.
You're sure Jay would see DJ's pics, posted by Milos on getbig, before getbig?
Um, how?
Likewise, when Dobson posts those COleman 6-week out pics from last years O, how would Cutler see them first, before getbig, the first place they are posted?
How?
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You're sure Jay would see DJ's pics, posted by Milos on getbig, before getbig?
Um, how?
Likewise, when Dobson posts those COleman 6-week out pics from last years O, how would Cutler see them first, before getbig, the first place they are posted?
How?
I said I think he would FIND OUT before a message board would. As far as seeing pics, yes, maybe. But I'm sure he got word of Ronnie's tricep tear before it was on getbig. Not to discredit getbig, because I do come here for those reasons such as breaking news and pics leading up to a contest.
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damn, he actually looks here.
jaw gutler - i like that.
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I said I think he would FIND OUT before a message board would. As far as seeing pics, yes, maybe. But I'm sure he got word of Ronnie's tricep tear before it was on getbig. Not to discredit getbig, because I do come here for those reasons such as breaking news and pics leading up to a contest.
Perhaps. They've been denything that ROnnie tri tear since December when it first looked bad. You can really see how the arm has gotten worse over the last 6 months.
Cutler, you jumping to the PDI if the IFBB giftwraps Ronnie a Dorian-esque (one-armed) gift win?
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Perhaps. They've been denything that ROnnie tri tear since December when it first looked bad. You can really see how the arm has gotten worse over the last 6 months.
Cutler, you jumping to the PDI if the IFBB giftwraps Ronnie a Dorian-esque (one-armed) gift win?
I hope Ronnie does lose. Why would the IFBB giftwrap a win for Ronnie? They could make so much more money with Jay.
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Maybe Jay can go back to the look he had when he won the 1996 Nationals at 23 years young.
wow, this is the look i'd like to see on today's bbs! here's another oldie.
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why? only to be flamed by a bunch of 16 year old guys who have never picked a weight in their life?
Exactly.
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that would be sweeet to bad jay is busy all day responding to emails ::)
he answers mine.
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Jay has answered every e-mail I've ever written him. I sent him one after the "O" last year because I thought he came off like a jackass on TV and I wanted to tell him that he lost my vote. I told him something about trying to sell his image better when getting national exposure at such a big event. He responded with about 3 paragraphs and kind of confided in me about what was going on backstage and with the prejudging and all that, how he thought he had it won. I was really suprised to get such an in-depth answer, and I have never thought bad about him again. If anybody cares to see the e-mail I can post it here.
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hell yeah, i'd love to see that side of Jay.
It is kinda sad to see that, especially in 2001, the guy really believes they'd ever let a reigning Mr O win. The judging is just too crooked.
*Jay- that is why we wear the clowns- to protest the IFBB Judging.
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sarcasm is jay cutler
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Hey bro could you email Jay and see if you can post the email he wrote you?
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Hey bro could you email Jay and see if you can post the email he wrote you?
Jay is a true representation of what bodybuilders should be
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Jay is a true representation of what bodybuilders should be
Yes Jay is a cool person, i'm especially interested in his crucifying skills.
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From where i sat at the Olympia. Jay beat ronnie in about every pose.....especially the back shots!!! It was exciting to think that Jay would be the champion that day.
The nite show came, and everyone was like WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Jay won in 2001 and 2005. Ifbb judges suck and the whole world knows it.
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Those pictures of Jay are Great, anyway we need iron Jay on this board !
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your right..he owuld be a fantastic addition.......but uncrowned mr.olympia? no.
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From where i sat at the Olympia. Jay beat ronnie in about every pose.....especially the back shots!!! It was exciting to think that Jay would be the champion that day.
The nite show came, and everyone was like WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Jay won in 2001 and 2005. Ifbb judges suck and the whole world knows it.
ronald won both those shows.
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in 2001 it was close from the fron size-wise, jay had conditioning, but ronnie had better muscle seperation. but from the back..it was lights out all the way ronnie. so ronnie wins it.
in 2005, it was very close size wise from the front and back, but ronnie came in with a bit less of agut, more taper, and better muscle seperation. ronnie wins it again.
niether of those can be contested.
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in 2001 it was close from the fron size-wise, jay had conditioning, but ronnie had better muscle seperation. but from the back..it was lights out all the way ronnie. so ronnie wins it.
in 2005, it was very close size wise from the front and back, but ronnie came in with a bit less of agut, more taper, and better muscle seperation. ronnie wins it again.
niether of those can be contested.
yes exactly.
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Jay used too post here..
Ron can confirm that..
I say it was about almost 2 years ago he posted.
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If he starts posting again...please....no synthol or site injection questions ;D He'll just get offended and leave so there's no point in asking.
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its stupid how some pros get 'all offended' and then leave. ::)
they ahve obviously surfed getbig before, what do they expect? and besides, for every douche trying to get a reaction from them, there are 20 guys that respect them.
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If he starts posting again...please....no synthol or site injection questions ;D He'll just get offended and leave so there's no point in asking.
There is no signs of synthol use with Jay Cutler.
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It just goes to show how insecure some of these guys are if they can't take it on here.
Maybe they are just not used to message boards though. It's not like somebody saying it to your face, but maybe they look at it like that.
LMFAO this is comming from the same guy who cried for 9 pages about being banned from Ironage
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There is no signs of synthol use with Jay Cutler.
There is some rumbling about synthol or site injections in the deltoids.
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There is some rumbling about synthol or site injections in the deltoids.
rear delts specifically. either way.....they are the best rear delts ive ever seen
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There is some rumbling about synthol or site injections in the deltoids.
He has striations in his delts.
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That was the debate that sparked Jay to leave. Somebody said he had synthol in his delts and a couple of other things made him angry enough to leave.
If you watch the videos, he has striations in his delts. Markus Ruhl's biceps however, do not.
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If you watch the videos, he has striations in his delts. Markus Ruhl's biceps however, do not.
lol whos biceps have striations????
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I voiced complaints in a rational and reasonable manner. I post under my real name and have pictures here online, get ripped on and don't let it bother me, have my contact information freely available for anyone reading, have accepted phone calls from pros who wanted to discuss stuff I wrote about them.
Do I not have a right to complain about an injustice? If a film critic writes that a film is bad is this somehow insecure?
I think people (quite possibly yourself) don't truly understand what confidence and security means.
I shouldn't feel bad for being banned by a bunch of old guys whose probably only sanctuary from life is some internet message board where alternate opinion is disallowed. I have a lot of things they probably lack: my youth, my hairline, ability to get with young hot women, etc. Sounds petty but for ANYONE to take a message board as seriously as they do really speaks for their character and quality of life and not in a good way.
Rational & Reasonable? does that sound like a rational & reasonable retort? I think NOT , and again with this nonsense that you are a victim of injustice lol you got banned because you knowingly broke the rules in which you agreed to abide by when signing up as a member of Ironage , you were warned more than once and the straw that broke the camels back , was you circumvented thier board to post profanity , which , let me remind you , you agreed NOT to do when you signed on as a member ;)
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lol whos biceps have striations????
Ruhl has no striations in the bi's
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why so you guys can rag on him like carl hardwick
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Ruhl has no striations in the bi's
and im asking who has striations in ther biceps? ive never seen anyone with a striation on their bicep, lol. its just not that type of muscle.
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Jay has answered every e-mail I've ever written him. I sent him one after the "O" last year because I thought he came off like a jackass on TV and I wanted to tell him that he lost my vote. I told him something about trying to sell his image better when getting national exposure at such a big event. He responded with about 3 paragraphs and kind of confided in me about what was going on backstage and with the prejudging and all that, how he thought he had it won. I was really suprised to get such an in-depth answer, and I have never thought bad about him again. If anybody cares to see the e-mail I can post it here.
Please, do post it.
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Jay come back, we promise to play nice :)
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and im asking who has striations in ther biceps? ive never seen anyone with a striation on their bicep, lol. its just not that type of muscle.
Ronnie Coleman does, Jay Cutler does, David Henry does
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Here is the entire e-mail exchange with Jay, read it from bottom to top.
well out of 267 you are the only one who really thought I was out of line... but its cool, coleman was really disrespectful to not say anything or congratulate me., he kind of left me standing there when announced as second... but what are you gonna do, no Arnolds, just the O cause I am gonna win this thing bro, thats apromise amn.
Jay Cutler
www.jaycutler.com
Official Website for Ripped to Shreds DVD and CEO Muscle Book!
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan
To: Jay Cutler
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: you lost a fan
Jay-
I'll write once more and then I'll let you be, I know you are a busy man. I guess I wasn't aware of your status after prejudging, I know that tends to be where the contest is won or lost. And you need to know that shit-kickers like me who've hardly got one show under their belt really have no business telling you how it is. I'm 27, work 50 hrs/week, raising two kids that aren't mine, and I think I got it tough, but It can't be anything compared to your lifestyle and commitment to your profession. You spent the whole year preparing for one show, I can't begin to understand that kind of commitment. My point is I hope you don't get discouraged by some idiot fans that don't support you, they have no idea. Have you been getting flack from the fans or have they been pretty good? I want to sincerely thank you for making me feel like I'm having a conversation with you. It's an honor. What are your plans? Are you eating all the cheat foods you've been craving this week? Are you gonna take the whole year off again or will you do the Arnold? Once again, sorry for assuming too much and judging too quickly. you got my support brother.
Dan
Jay Cutler <cuts280@cox.net> wrote:
well i was real down, but ok now man... its just that everyone, from photographers, mag people, athletes fans, and wind of judges tole me I was leading after prejudging, so my winds were blown from my sails man, I should of handled myself better, 4 times second and the effort I ut this yr man... its so hard, lots of work fo one show, but I am gonna fight back man, and I hope I can keep you as a supported cause I need it man!!!
thanks.
jay
Jay Cutler
www.jaycutler.com
Official Website for Ripped to Shreds DVD and CEO Muscle Book!
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan
To: Jay Cutler
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: you lost a fan
Jay--
I've seen a lot of haters on the chat boards, and I don't want to sound like one. I think you looked great, and If they insist on playing Ronnie's game, you had him beat. Not sure I've ever seen your hams shredded like they were, and the back double bi was untouchable. I'll keep an open mind, considering I wasn't in your shoes. And also, these e-mails really do say a lot about you as well. Thanks so much for the response.
Jay Cutler <cuts280@cox.net> wrote:
dan... thanks for the e mail but you would never understand unless you were
in my shoes bro.
Jay Cutler
www.jaycutler.com
Official Website for Ripped to Shreds DVD and CEO Muscle Book!
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:58 AM
Subject: you lost a fan
> name: Dan
> message: I have admired you for years, Jay, but after seeing your behavior
> on Saturday night I've lost a little respect for you. I know you're not a
> fan of the challenge round, but the fans are. I thought you were a
> businessman, right? Wouldn't you want to have all the time you could to
> put yourself out to the public and sell your image? And for people like
> me, it's the first time I've seen you on television, so I know you could
> use the publicity. I understand that you were frustrated beyond belief
> and you were depleted and tired, I'm sure, but you came off as kind of a
> cocky prick. I know you are disillusioned with the judging process, but
> you're not the first (and won't be the last) to come in at 2nd place more
> than once at the olympia. I appreciate all of your hard work and I think
> you looked fantastic, but I'm sorry man, you had a chance to sell me and
> you didn't. I won't be rooting for you next time.
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Jay come back, we promise to play nice :)
Although it would be cool to see Jay post here, you guys forgot one thing. Jay is a winner, Just like ROnnie- and other Pros that do not- or HARDLY post here, bc they arent caught up into what you guys say. The winners dont care. They are pro bodybuilders, they make lots of money, and they can give a shit what you all think. THEY DONT CARE!
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Matt, its not TRUE. Jay is awesome, but the judges are just SOLD on ROnnies INSANE Muscularity- You know? WE can argue all day, everyone has their own tastes- so until the judges start liking Jays look or Ronnies, then YES, he wont beat ROnnie, Unless ROniie really messes up and comes in looking like crap. Its kinda like DORIAN, that massive SICK back, just carried him through most of those Sandows..Ronnie is just immense..
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Jay Cutler won't be here because he said that bulletin boards are negative
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Jay Cutler won't be here because he said that bulletin boards are negative
Jay is smart man- your exactly right, and as I guessed- someone like Jay wouldnt be bothering with cyber trolls, please..
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Exactly man, like i said, these guys dont have to stoop down to make the cyber trolls/negative guys happy. They dont have to prove anything, and the ones that are here dong that, are just losing stock in their image imho.
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Rather than other pros where the posts "motivate" them to work hard. ::)
You just have to love the insecurity that goes with being motivated by negativity.
What else do you expect from 3rd and 4th tier pros who posts here?
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Explain to me why LuciousFox got banned on that site for merely posting "where are his shoulders" in regards to a Bill Pearl thread?
Nice backpeddle , I don't have to explain to you why he got banned and I'll bet the farm it wasn't for that statement alone
I know why you were banned and so do you , even if you're not man enough to admit it .
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Nice backpeddle , I don't have to explain to you why he got banned and I'll bet the farm it wasn't for that statement alone
I know why you were banned and so do you , even if you're not man enough to admit it .
It was for that statement alone because that was the only post I made. Ironagers claim to love symmetry, but they were posting a pic and giving it rave reviews even though Scott had tiny delts and zero rear delts. I pointed it out and was banned, even though I probably could have said something similar about a modern pro.
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its a really good idea...but yeah, im also afraid of what some people could do to him...
I already saw this on some forums, so i think it might be a good idea...Why not its created a part in the forum to "questions or compliments to the Pros'. A forum where you send your question that is verified by someone (Ron or someone else) and then posted. So the Pro responded it, and only the guy that posted the original message may respond to it (all the others users are blocked to respond, they can just read it)
i think it would be a great way to have more Pros, read things posted by them, and at the same time, dont have any problems of negative fires at them...
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I don't think Jay or any other pro should post here unless they are comfortable with what goes on here. We say that they have fragile egos, but how many of us could stand up to the criticism that we frequently offer?
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what goes on here isnt criticism its down right jealousy and small penis syndrom most kids posting on here have yet to get ther first hard on
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I don't think Jay or any other pro should post here unless they are comfortable with what goes on here. We say that they have fragile egos, but how many of us could stand up to the criticism that we frequently offer?
very well put
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I don't think Jay or any other pro should post here unless they are comfortable with what goes on here. We say that they have fragile egos, but how many of us could stand up to the criticism that we frequently offer?
smartest thing you've eevr said
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smartest thing you've eevr said
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A question to Sarcasm...
You asked Jay to join getbig because you think he is a knowledgeable pro, it will make getbig a better board... And that's cool.
But in honesty, it's not clear what Jay will gain posting here. You said he will treated with respect.... but do you think it's enough?
I mean, I'm sure that if I go to church I would be treated with respect... but I don't like to go to church so I don't give a dime to church's respect.
So, if he doesn't like it, I see no reason for him to post here.
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A question to Sarcasm...
You asked Jay to join getbig because you think he is a knowledgeable pro, it will make getbig a better board... And that's cool.
But in honesty, it's not clear what Jay will gain posting here. You said he will treated with respect.... but do you think it's enough?
I mean, I'm sure that if I go to church I would be treated with respect... but I don't like to go to church so I don't give a dime to church's respect.
So, if he doesn't like it, I see no reason for him to post here.
I agree. Jay coming here is only a setup by the obsessed underdeveloped minorities who tend to lash out against most pro's in order to feel better of themselves. Some people do drugs and get their fix, others......