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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Gym-Rat on February 28, 2022, 03:50:00 PM
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^this might also trigger Chick’s PTSD(past thongtastic stress disorder)
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Lies.
His wife was a "nurse" which is "almost a doctor".
So he gets bloodwork every 8 weeks.
Makes sense. ::)
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:D
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What a moron
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Seems like a half truth, all the compounds sound correct and I’m sure men’s physique today are taking more but these guys also had higher quality drugs which isn’t really mentioned. I doubt his gear was under dosed or from an ugl.
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Seems like a half truth, all the compounds sound correct and I’m sure men’s physique today are taking more but these guys also had higher quality drugs which isn’t really mentioned. I doubt his gear was under dosed or from an ugl.
Just a little Test and Eq.
Throw in a "little" of the "exotic" things like Anavar.
Didn't really use orals.
Played with the "insulin" stuff late in his career.
For 8-12 weeks at a time.
;D
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Just a little Test and Eq.
Throw in a "little" of the "exotic" things like Anavar.
Didn't really use orals.
Played with the "insulin" stuff late in his career.
For 8-12 weeks at a time.
;D
All these guys are nothing special
All lies, all garbage
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All these guys are nothing special
All lies, all garbage
FILT
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^this might also trigger Chick’s PTSD(past thongtastic stress disorder)
Hahaha!!
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It all comes down to these guys wanting to be "special".
Jay used far more than he admits to in this video.
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is this the one when he talks about putting 3 vials of escaline in his biceps ??
I wonder if he had to put an extra vial in his "little" bicep
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Seems like a half truth, all the compounds sound correct and I’m sure men’s physique today are taking more but these guys also had higher quality drugs which isn’t really mentioned. I doubt his gear was under dosed or from an ugl.
I didn't listen to the video but I would say most of his gear was UGL. Look at the dates, when he was at his peak. The human grade era was in the 90s and earlier. I would go as far as to say he was as good as he was at his peak thanks to UGL - there was no HG Tren or Masteron and so on.
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^this might also trigger Chick’s PTSD(past thongtastic stress disorder)
You`ve been on a helluva` roll lately bro. LOL :D
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You`ve been on a helluva` roll lately bro. LOL :D
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I didn't listen to the video but I would say most of his gear was UGL. Look at the dates, when he was at his peak. The human grade era was in the 90s and earlier. I would go as far as to say he was as good as he was at his peak thanks to UGL - there was no HG Tren or Masteron and so on.
Probably not with UGL. I can tell you that a lot of the guys I have talked with in S FL - which I will admit were shitty pros except for Vince Taylor - have all said the same thing and that a lot of the pro gear comes from compounding pharmacies. I know one of the UGLs located in S FL is run by a guy here that runs a compounding pharmacy and he puts out a small line of gear on the side. Excellent product and top level packaging as well.
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Probably not with UGL. I can tell you that a lot of the guys I have talked with in S FL - which I will admit were shitty pros except for Vince Taylor - have all said the same thing and that a lot of the pro gear comes from compounding pharmacies. I know one of the UGLs located in S FL is run by a guy here that runs a compounding pharmacy and he puts out a small line of gear on the side. Excellent product and top level packaging as well.
Interesting. Maybe that explains the influx of pros down here in the past few years. And by shitty pros you mean guys like Kenny Jones, correct? :D
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His contest cycles are slightly more than my trt lol
Lying sack of shit
Bench
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Probably not with UGL. I can tell you that a lot of the guys I have talked with in S FL - which I will admit were shitty pros except for Vince Taylor - have all said the same thing and that a lot of the pro gear comes from compounding pharmacies. I know one of the UGLs located in S FL is run by a guy here that runs a compounding pharmacy and he puts out a small line of gear on the side. Excellent product and top level packaging as well.
That only makes sense and I concluded the same a long time ago. I think the raws are Chinese no matter what they claim, it's just that the products are put together by someone a little step above bathtub brewer. But same shit basically, UG raws.
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You`ve been on a helluva` roll lately bro. LOL :D
Rambone has been killing it for years.
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Brutal if true
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Rambone has been killing it for years.
I appreciate the support. Much like Calvin, I never make a list!
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I stopped watching when Douchette said " I know physique competitors that use more gear than you "
"Everyone uses more gear than me "... but I have the heart of a champion and minset "
Enough with that crap.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH
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I appreciate the support. Much like Calvin, I never make a list!
Dude I was baffled when I saw that. I'm sure it was a simple oversight by the Committee.
This is your year!
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asking a bodybuilder about his drug use is like asking a woman about her notch count
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Dude I was baffled when I saw that. I'm sure it was a simple oversight by the Committee.
This is your year!
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It all comes down to these guys wanting to be "special".
Jay used far more than he admits to in this video.
Exactly!
They want us to believe they are these super human genetic freaks.
Claiming he gained 50 pounds off 1cc of Sust per week.
Come the fuck on.
It's like the guys from the 70's-80's who only took 10mg of Dbol and a "little deca/primo here and there".
All bullshit.
And i completely understand why they do it, but it's still annoying.
Then they sell snake oil claiming that's where they got the muscles.
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I didn't listen to the video but I would say most of his gear was UGL. Look at the dates, when he was at his peak. The human grade era was in the 90s and earlier. I would go as far as to say he was as good as he was at his peak thanks to UGL - there was no HG Tren or Masteron and so on.
There was finaplex which he mentioned
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From what i know, the Pro's have amazing access to just about anything. Think about all the connections they have and people they have met over the years. I mean i've personally met hundreds of people who use gear and were very open about how to get it. Had no problem sharing their source.
This circle of people is smaller than you think at a higher level.
I know for a fact that an UGL up near Fort Worth was selling AAS to several Pro's 10 years ago. A good friend of mine knew the source personally and i actually met him and saw his "lab". It was a very legit setup and his gear was not cheap.
The high level guys who get busted almost always have UGL gear.
I do believe they would prefer HG gear, but that shit is expensive and very few BBer's have that kind of money. Just the cost of GH is insane, unless you get the generic Chinese stuff.
With all the money Jay's had over the years, i wouldn't be surprised if he was using legit HG gear, but there is no way to know. Only Jay knows.
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From what i know, the Pro's have amazing access to just about anything. Think about all the connections they have and people they have met over the years. I mean i've personally met hundreds of people who use gear and were very open about how to get it. Had no problem sharing their source.
This circle of people is smaller than you think at a higher level.
I know for a fact that an UGL up near Fort Worth was selling AAS to several Pro's 10 years ago. A good friend of mine knew the source personally and i actually met him and saw his "lab". It was a very legit setup and his gear was not cheap.
The high level guys who get busted almost always have UGL gear.
I do believe they would prefer HG gear, but that shit is expensive and very few BBer's have that kind of money. Just the cost of GH is insane, unless you get the generic Chinese stuff.
With all the money Jay's had over the years, i wouldn't be surprised if he was using legit HG gear, but there is no way to know. Only Jay knows.
Just a 1/2 cc of test a week now though bro, that’s if he remembers!
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Just a 1/2 cc of test a week now though bro, that’s if he remembers!
Haha yes!
Just a CC or two here and there for 8-12 weeks.
Maybe a little Slin for a few weeks before a show.
It's the full NitroTech and CellTech "stack" for maximum gains. Over 347% more effective than other "stacks".
Might throw some L-Carnitine and L-Arginine if you REALLY want to grow!
Obviously he's not in it for the money and just wants to share the best method to maximize "gains".
Such a nice guy Jay is!
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Interesting. Maybe that explains the influx of pros down here in the past few years. And by shitty pros you mean guys like Kenny Jones, correct? :D
Oh God.... Kenny Jones. That nasal voice gimp shrimp. I wonder whatever happened to him. He used to train at Golds on Commercial and got kicked out and then started leading a morning sunrise yoga class on the beach every morning about 5:30am until the sun came up while running a painting, handyman, carpet cleaning business in between his muscle worshipping sessions.
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That only makes sense and I concluded the same a long time ago. I think the raws are Chinese no matter what they claim, it's just that the products are put together by someone a little step above bathtub brewer. But same shit basically, UG raws.
I know the various test esters, nandrolones, and tablets (anadrol, anavar, halotestin, dbol and winstrol) are made directly in his compounding pharmacy business. I am not sure about the other non medical use compounds like tren, masteron, primo, etc... but I do know his compounding business supplies the packaging and inserts for all the compounds that gets sold on the side.
My buddy just got a few things in from him. When I meet up with him tonight, I will take a photo of some of his shit and post it. The packaging vials are as slick and professional as anything a domestic HG company puts out.
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From what i know, the Pro's have amazing access to just about anything. Think about all the connections they have and people they have met over the years. I mean i've personally met hundreds of people who use gear and were very open about how to get it. Had no problem sharing their source.
This circle of people is smaller than you think at a higher level.
I know for a fact that an UGL up near Fort Worth was selling AAS to several Pro's 10 years ago. A good friend of mine knew the source personally and i actually met him and saw his "lab". It was a very legit setup and his gear was not cheap.
The high level guys who get busted almost always have UGL gear.
I do believe they would prefer HG gear, but that shit is expensive and very few BBer's have that kind of money. Just the cost of GH is insane, unless you get the generic Chinese stuff.
With all the money Jay's had over the years, i wouldn't be surprised if he was using legit HG gear, but there is no way to know. Only Jay knows.
Maybe we should ask Kerry, she would know, I’m sure she was injecting him and wiping his ass for all we know
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I know the various test esters, nandrolones, and tablets (anadrol, anavar, halotestin, dbol and winstrol) are made directly in his compounding pharmacy business. I am not sure about the other non medical use compounds like tren, masteron, primo, etc... but I do know his compounding business supplies the packaging and inserts for all the compounds that gets sold on the side.
You mean they synthesize the hormone itself in the pharmacy? Although I don't how hormones are made exactly and what is involved I very much doubt steroid hormones are made in any large quantity in the US by compounding pharmacies. Everyone would've heard about it by now but not a peep ever anywhere about it in the last 20 years. It's all Chinese. Does India make steroid raws nowadays?
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Oh God.... Kenny Jones. That nasal voice gimp shrimp. I wonder whatever happened to him. He used to train at Golds on Commercial and got kicked out and then started leading a morning sunrise yoga class on the beach every morning about 5:30am until the sun came up while running a painting, handyman, carpet cleaning business in between his muscle worshipping sessions.
He then went to World Gym north of Sunrise to complain the ceiling fans and how it was too cold in the gym where he might tear his biceps. What a nut
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Rambone has been killing it for years.
This
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You mean they synthesize the hormone itself in the pharmacy? Although I don't how hormones are made exactly and what is involved I very much doubt steroid hormones are made in any large quantity in the US by compounding pharmacies. Everyone would've heard about it by now but not a peep ever anywhere about it in the last 20 years. It's all Chinese. Does India make steroid raws nowadays?
I mean they make the finished products, test cypionate, enanthate, propionate, etc.. not make the actual powders.
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I mean they make the finished products, test cypionate, enanthate, propionate, etc.. not make the actual powders.
I wonder if there’s any purity testing to make sure the orientals aren’t killing us. We can’t have any more fallen brothers this year. Enough is enough
This
Brotal if true
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From what i know, the Pro's have amazing access to just about anything. Think about all the connections they have and people they have met over the years. I mean i've personally met hundreds of people who use gear and were very open about how to get it. Had no problem sharing their source.
This circle of people is smaller than you think at a higher level.
With all the money Jay's had over the years, i wouldn't be surprised if he was using legit HG gear, but there is no way to know. Only Jay knows.
And Ray.
Ray knows too... trust me... ;)
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Maybe we should ask Kerry, she would know, I’m sure she was injecting him and wiping his ass for all we know
At least she wasn't picking hairs off of his back with tweezers.
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It should all be OTC at this point. For cripes sake high grade weed is
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Everyone just assumes you take 5g and turn into a monster. The law of diminishing returns kicks in long before then. Too much and you are toxic unable to eat. Most of these guys probably are just in the 1-1.5g range tops after that it isn't going to do you anymore good and becomes detrimental. If you can't grow on that you need to look at other factors.
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Everyone just assumes you take 5g and turn into a monster. The law of diminishing returns kicks in long before then. Too much and you are toxic unable to eat. Most of these guys probably are just in the 1-1.5g range tops after that it isn't going to do you anymore good and becomes detrimental. If you can't grow on that you need to look at other factors.
I think there is something to 'receptors' and how one responds genetically to gear.
some twinks out there take grams of gear a week and look the same (like a twink).
some people (like nick walker) can look at a vile and blow the fuck-up.
sure he works very hard, but 5'7" and 300-lbs, he just responds
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Everyone just assumes you take 5g and turn into a monster. The law of diminishing returns kicks in long before then. Too much and you are toxic unable to eat. Most of these guys probably are just in the 1-1.5g range tops after that it isn't going to do you anymore good and becomes detrimental. If you can't grow on that you need to look at other factors.
You know they are higher than that. I mean I mostly agree with what you're saying, after a certain dosage increased dosages don't add much. But all the mass monsters are higher than that. At least double that and up.
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Does India make steroid raws nowadays?
The only raws I've seen legitimately from Indian pharmaceutical suppliers are Testosterones and Deca, and they usually want to deal in big quantities. Some others offer other things, but they're usually acting as middle men for Chinese firms.
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Everyone just assumes you take 5g and turn into a monster. The law of diminishing returns kicks in long before then. Too much and you are toxic unable to eat. Most of these guys probably are just in the 1-1.5g range tops after that it isn't going to do you anymore good and becomes detrimental. If you can't grow on that you need to look at other factors.
Oh fuck off.
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Forgot to post the pictures yesterday
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It should come as no surprise that the bodybuilders who came out of the sport healthy are also the ones whose bodies respond well to moderate doses of gear. Jay Cutler just has good genetics for bodybuilding and doesn't need to rely on extreme amounts of drugs to do well.
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There’s also a hidden button for “defrost” and a warning light to get the water filter replaced.
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From what i know, the Pro's have amazing access to just about anything. Think about all the connections they have and people they have met over the years. I mean i've personally met hundreds of people who use gear and were very open about how to get it. Had no problem sharing their source.
This circle of people is smaller than you think at a higher level.
I know for a fact that an UGL up near Fort Worth was selling AAS to several Pro's 10 years ago. A good friend of mine knew the source personally and i actually met him and saw his "lab". It was a very legit setup and his gear was not cheap.
The high level guys who get busted almost always have UGL gear.
I do believe they would prefer HG gear, but that shit is expensive and very few BBer's have that kind of money. Just the cost of GH is insane, unless you get the generic Chinese stuff.
With all the money Jay's had over the years, i wouldn't be surprised if he was using legit HG gear, but there is no way to know. Only Jay knows.
Matt Jansen "coached" Dallas, Nick Walker, Clarida and a few others is someone who has the legit hook up.
Oh fuck off.
Lol. Bhanks is fast becoming another Howard/Prime
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It should come as no surprise that the bodybuilders who came out of the sport healthy are also the ones whose bodies respond well to moderate doses of gear. Jay Cutler just has good genetics for bodybuilding and doesn't need to rely on extreme amounts of drugs to do well.
Jay has gotten carried away before.
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It should come as no surprise that the bodybuilders who came out of the sport healthy are also the ones whose bodies respond well to moderate doses of gear. Jay Cutler just has good genetics for bodybuilding and doesn't need to rely on extreme amounts of drugs to do well.
So Ronnie and Flex did not respond well to moderate doses
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Forgot to post the pictures yesterday
Good packaging.
Reminds me of the stuff i've purchased in Mexico.
But they don't sell Tren there unless it's an UGL.
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I think there is something to 'receptors' and how one responds genetically to gear.
some twinks out there take grams of gear a week and look the same (like a twink).
some people (like nick walker) can look at a vile and blow the fuck-up.
sure he works very hard, but 5'7" and 300-lbs, he just responds
Dick Walker is going to drop dead pretty soon
If you’re taking grams a wk of gear with decent genetics you are not going to look like a twink
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Everyone just assumes you take 5g and turn into a monster. The law of diminishing returns kicks in long before then. Too much and you are toxic unable to eat. Most of these guys probably are just in the 1-1.5g range tops after that it isn't going to do you anymore good and becomes detrimental. If you can't grow on that you need to look at other factors.
Really? How is that possible? Even the most basic of beginner cycles is 500mg of Testosterone weekly 8-12 weeks. So most pros are just on 2-3x that amount? How is that possible?
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Dick Walker is going to drop dead pretty soon
If you’re taking grams a wk of gear with decent genetics you are not going to look like a twink
was surprised how he resembled a fat f*ck with his clothes on.
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Good packaging.
Reminds me of the stuff i've purchased in Mexico.
But they don't sell Tren there unless it's an UGL.
It's all UGL. He just supplies the UGl with tests and nandrolones from his compounding business. The rest is made by others. The packaging is identical to the real Hikma brand even though they don't make some of the compounds.
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I know the various test esters, nandrolones, and tablets (anadrol, anavar, halotestin, dbol and winstrol) are made directly in his compounding pharmacy business. I am not sure about the other non medical use compounds like tren, masteron, primo, etc... but I do know his compounding business supplies the packaging and inserts for all the compounds that gets sold on the side.
My buddy just got a few things in from him. When I meet up with him tonight, I will take a photo of some of his shit and post it. The packaging vials are as slick and professional as anything a domestic HG company puts out.
This is so insane to me, a compounding pharmacy is a tightly regulated, multi million dollar enterprise. Why risk all that to sell juice to muscle men lol
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This is so insane to me, a compounding pharmacy is a tightly regulated, multi million dollar enterprise. Why risk all that to sell juice to muscle men lol
It happens. 10-15 years ago, a long respected Brooklyn pharmacy got busted for close to the same thing. He was the the supplier to a lot of the civil service workers in NY, and when they launched a police corruption investigation, his name came up.
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It should come as no surprise that the bodybuilders who came out of the sport healthy are also the ones whose bodies respond well to moderate doses of gear. Jay Cutler just has good genetics for bodybuilding and doesn't need to rely on extreme amounts of drugs to do well.
I don't think it's that, not quite. Sure, in some cases there have been guys who died or got hurt because they were extreme even compared to other pros but it's more like some are more resistant to side effects. There is no conceivable universe in which Jay was moderate, if by moderate you mean 1-1.5 grams of gear. There are some outliers but the Olympia guys are basically all at 3-5 grams of gear leading up to the Olympia with some crazies who played with even higher doses. There is an average range. Back when Victor Balco worked with quite a number of pros he said all were over 3 grams except one.
Regarding Jay, consider also that he worked with Aceto. When Jay was tested that one year he had 5 different diuretics in his system.
This ain't moderate.
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This ain't moderate.
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But it is photoshopped (plus had a filter added)
His waist has been taken in and his quads rounded
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But it is photoshopped (plus had a filter added)
His waist has been taken in and his quads rounded
It’s a moderate amount of photoshopping.
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This is so insane to me, a compounding pharmacy is a tightly regulated, multi million dollar enterprise. Why risk all that to sell juice to muscle men lol
Greed. Direct money to pocket with no tax ratio. A way to be connected to "the industry".
Who knows, but that seems to be the reason most people start dealing in the first place.
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Greed. Direct money to pocket with no tax ratio. A way to be connected to "the industry".
Who knows, but that seems to be the reason most people start dealing in the first place.
Why settle for 1 million.
When you can make 2 million, tax free. ;)
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Dick Walker is going to drop dead pretty soon
If you’re taking grams a wk of gear with decent genetics you are not going to look like a twink
Seems like a decent enough guy but I fear for his health.
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Seems like a decent enough guy but I fear for his health.
It's OK, don't worry about him - he's controlling his blood pressure and RBC count scientifically...
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