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Title: Quiting Booze
Post by: RJ DRIVER on May 08, 2022, 05:49:32 PM
So I’ve struggled with drinking the past 5 years. I consider myself in the “grey area alcoholic”. My wife scoffs at me when I say I’m an alcoholic. She can drink for a week then not touch it for months. So I don’t thing she understands where I’m coming from. I dont have to drink everyday to function or don’t have to drink till I pass out. I just feel the overwhelming need to drink everyday. Usually 3-6 beers but it prevents me from succeeding in other areas of my life and im just done with it. I successfully went dry for 7 months last year. Then I went on vacation with friends I’ve known for 30 years and thought I could drink for a week and be okay. Since then (October) I’ve been back on the sauce and unable to quit. Any suggestions on how to quit? Willpower just doesn’t cut it. My previous dry period was due to being completely done by making bad choices and Turing to the Bible and trying to live a righteous life. So far that has not worked this go around. It’s tough to admit it but I know I’m weak.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Flexacon on May 08, 2022, 05:55:56 PM
Have you tried keto?
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: RJ DRIVER on May 08, 2022, 06:00:41 PM
I tried carnivore for 2 weeks but the booze came a calling, lol
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Bevo on May 08, 2022, 06:02:37 PM
Keep drinking, start drinking liquor every day, 6 to 7 days isn’t so bad, gotta up the alcohol content, you will be fine
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Marty Champions on May 08, 2022, 06:07:04 PM
With drinking it makes you requir aroung 1to 2 more hours of sleep  , its fun but youll need more sleep and calories to recover. Drinking can be used as a mind steroid  , your ably to focus and apply your self to a goal that doesnt require you to drive hopefully
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 08, 2022, 06:12:22 PM
One of my best friends growing up was a heavy drinker. Lord knows I did my share of drinking but he was on another level. Great guy but just your stereotype Irish alcoholic. He could never admit he had a problem. It was that the rest of us didn’t drink enough.

One night, coming home from the bar he tripped, whacked his head on the concrete and never woke up. It all fun and games until a health issue or an accident happens.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Zillotch on May 08, 2022, 06:52:16 PM
Willpower just doesn’t cut it.

thats all there is to it – fortitude
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: nzmusclemonster on May 08, 2022, 08:13:50 PM
So I’ve struggled with drinking the past 5 years. I consider myself in the “grey area alcoholic”. My wife scoffs at me when I say I’m an alcoholic. She can drink for a week then not touch it for months. So I don’t thing she understands where I’m coming from. I dont have to drink everyday to function or don’t have to drink till I pass out. I just feel the overwhelming need to drink everyday. Usually 3-6 beers but it prevents me from succeeding in other areas of my life and im just done with it. I successfully went dry for 7 months last year. Then I went on vacation with friends I’ve known for 30 years and thought I could drink for a week and be okay. Since then (October) I’ve been back on the sauce and unable to quit. Any suggestions on how to quit? Willpower just doesn’t cut it. My previous dry period was due to being completely done by making bad choices and Turing to the Bible and trying to live a righteous life. So far that has not worked this go around. It’s tough to admit it but I know I’m weak.

Sounds like you love the cock.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: tacobender on May 08, 2022, 08:42:15 PM
I’m struggling with depression and drinking it’s tough lots of triggers
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: wes on May 08, 2022, 10:01:23 PM
Alcoholics Anonymous......do everything they tell you to and thank me later.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: tacobender on May 08, 2022, 10:38:25 PM
Alcoholics Anonymous......do everything they tell you to and thank me later.
Honestly no shit talking does that really help you? I’ve always been tentative to going to those places
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Matt on May 09, 2022, 12:31:44 AM
So I’ve struggled with drinking the past 5 years. I consider myself in the “grey area alcoholic”. My wife scoffs at me when I say I’m an alcoholic. She can drink for a week then not touch it for months. So I don’t thing she understands where I’m coming from. I dont have to drink everyday to function or don’t have to drink till I pass out. I just feel the overwhelming need to drink everyday. Usually 3-6 beers but it prevents me from succeeding in other areas of my life and im just done with it. I successfully went dry for 7 months last year. Then I went on vacation with friends I’ve known for 30 years and thought I could drink for a week and be okay. Since then (October) I’ve been back on the sauce and unable to quit. Any suggestions on how to quit? Willpower just doesn’t cut it. My previous dry period was due to being completely done by making bad choices and Turing to the Bible and trying to live a righteous life. So far that has not worked this go around. It’s tough to admit it but I know I’m weak.

I think this is a good time to bring up an issue that I have, which has also been on my mind.

It's hard to quit something if you don't want to quit, or have no reason to quit.

It sounds like you are at the point of wanting to quit [hopefully NOT due to health reasons yet, but concern they may become an issue later in life].

So that's good that you want to quit.

One thing I hasn't brought up on Getbig [aside from PM] that I alluded to above, was that I had been smoking cigarettes during the pandemic.

In the past 57 days, I've smoked 19 cigarettes.

Most recently, I've dropped to smoking 2-3 on Sunday, but I skipped yesterday. So now I'm going to 2-3 every two weeks, the 2-3 a month, then see how I feel from there.

As to why I've been smoking - that was because fucking gyms were closed for 500+ fucking days straight. I was just filling time.

Now that I can work out without the police FOLLOWING ME TO THE GYM [I had no vaccine passport, so that happened 1-2 times per week], I've not wanted to smoke.

I still enjoy cigarettes though - but they cannot be moderated, IMO. So I'm thinking once a month would be ok. And that's when I realized - why even bother? I mean, if I smoke two cigarettes on the last day of the month, why not just smoke zero?

I'll go on record - I enjoy smoking cigarettes. I wish they were easier to moderate.

RJ DRIVER: our issues may be the same here, or similar - my issues with cigarettes is that I can't moderate them. And that's why I only smoke weekly.

I can almost guarantee you that if I allowed myself to smoke daily, I would smoke 5-25 cigarettes a day. In fact, IMO, if it was not for health issues, I would probably be a pack a day smoker.

Funny, given the first cigarette I smoked was age 34 [in 2016], and didn't start regularly smoking until age 36.

I smoke 2-3, one day per week. Or I might have one cigarette one day, then 1-2 another day of the week.

I'm currently at maybe 10/month, down from 30/month [one a day] during the pandemic.

There aren't even studies on my level of smoking, since apparently I'm the only person who smokes this little. Almost everyone smokes at least 2-3-4 daily, and there are no studies I'm aware of on 2-3 cigarettes a week.

My concern is that I might increase my smoking, and THAT can become a problem [whereas 2-3 a week is probably not a problem].

Here's one thing I'm thinking though:

There may be no way for me to moderate smoking.

There may be no way for ANYONE to moderate smoking.

Does ANYONE know ANYONE who only smokes cigarettes once a week?

I literally don't know of ANYONE but me.

So what I'm thinking is that smoking may be an "all or NOTHING" thing for me.

I moderate them extremely well, but they are very "more-ish". I find one leads to craving for another and another. They are inherently unsatisfying in this respect.

If I eat a cheat meal, I'm good for a month. But when I smoke even as much as ONE A DAY [which I was smoking during the pandemic], I always wanted another.

Thinking about your post has made me think about how hard it can be to quit. It seems like the best solution is to not go down that road to begin with...

Now on to YOUR post, RJ:

What are the reasons why you are drinking? I can tell you that the ONLY reason why I was smoking is because I went into the pandemic with a TINY smoking habit, and it ONLY stuck around because of the bullshit pandemic measures.

We only JUST got rid of all bullshit measures/mandates in Canada last month [except air travel], so it's only been a month of me being able to live my life again.

And SURPRISE SURPRISE, I only smokes like eight cigarettes since April 1st.

The reason why I couldn't quit is because I was facing issues causing me to smoke. And those issues were NOT in my control.

So my question for you to ask yourself is: why do you drink? Could you find a way to face those issues without drinking?

Can you find a replacement?

I have ONLY had legal access to public saunas since April 1st!!  That's when my gym gave up their bullshit policy of counting people who were going there. You had to sign in online, before going.  ::)

So if there is some reason you drink, it might be harder to quit, until you find a way to face that reason, and find a replacement for alcohol.

Clearly, there is some reason why it benefits you.

Is it safe to say you aren't just drinking the quantity of alcohol you do just to stave off withdrawals, but that you enjoy that amount?

Are you ready to give up that enjoyment, and just drink the minimum you need to not experience withdrawal [assuming you will have any withdrawal]?

I guess what I'm saying is: if there is a reason you are drinking, and you have no mechanism to deal with that issue, and to replace alcohol with something else, it may be hard.

IMO, wanting to quit is the first step. Replacing alcohol with something else would be good, if you can find such a replacement.

1-2, up to even three drinks daily [depending on your body weight / muscle mass] is probably not THAT bad. Another good first step would be to try to get into that range of drinking.

It seems unlikely to me that a person drinking 1-2...even 3 drinks daily is doing THAT much damage.

Cheers star George Wendt used to only drink starting at 8pm.

Is there any way to do that to start? I can tell you that by only allowing myself to smoke on Sundays, my smoking remains at almost nonexistent levels. But if I allowed myself 2-3 a day, that number could easily rise to a problematic level.

I've also found it daunting to think I will never smoke again. And that's why I allow myself to smoke on Sunday.

Sorry for the long post - you've made me think maybe it's time to just stop smoking outright. Why am I keeping a 10 cigarette/month habit?

Maybe it's just time to let it go.

I could probably smoke 7 cigarettes a day, and not face healthy issues. But I'm a big time hypochondriac, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. I'm a bigtime health pussy. I could probably get away with WAY more than I do - but I hate taking health risks.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: irishdave on May 09, 2022, 12:53:49 AM
Yes Covid lockdowns that were completely useless turned me into an Alco
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 09, 2022, 02:06:55 AM
Replace the booze with something else like herbal tea. Many times the habit is actually drinking something all the time and when you quit you feel something missing. Same with smoking.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: falco on May 09, 2022, 06:51:19 AM
I should stop also. Not that i drink a lot, but my liver is not happy with the few wine glasses i drink.
Going to zero it's hard, mostly because we tend to rationalize how it's not a big deal.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: wes on May 09, 2022, 06:57:54 AM
Honestly no shit talking does that really help you? I’ve always been tentative to going to those places
It really helped me.....it works if you do exactly what they tell you and you truly have a strong desire to quit.

I tried quitting a zillion times on my own and always thoughe AA people were weak and the stuff they preached was bullshit but after failing to quit on my own a zillion times I figured I`d hit AA and follow their plan to the letter....it finally worked.....been sober for over twenty years now and I was a bad drunk.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Dokey111 on May 09, 2022, 07:36:23 AM
Here's what I always say.  And no jokes, quitting drinking is a great thing to do for yourself.

I believe that part of the issue is that you simply want to drink.  Not necessarily alcohol, you just want to drink.  So drink!  But not alcoholic.  Buy yourself a whole bunch of seltzer waters, whatever flavor you like.  La Croix or Polar brands I use.  And drink them one after another starting in the late afternoon.  Drink as if they were beers or whatever.  Once you start doing this you will wake up and thank god you didn't have any alcohol.  It is a great feeling.

Also, I take a valerian capsule along with.  Not sure but it does seem like it takes the edge off a little bit.

And that's it.  Good luck.

Edit:  and don't keep alcohol in the house.  I know if I have it, I will drink it.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: 20inch calves on May 09, 2022, 09:01:45 AM
Because of depression I have become a binge drinker. After my divorce it was almost a nightly thing to do. I have cut back.. sometimes I go a week without it but on that 6-7 day mark I crave it. Before I know it I go through a case of beer. If I don't work the next day I continue drinking into the next day.  It's a vicious cycle
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Rambone on May 09, 2022, 10:13:53 AM
Alcohol and bodybuilding don’t mix
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Taffin on May 09, 2022, 10:55:30 AM
It's hard to quit something if you don't want to quit, or have no reason to quit.

I guess what I'm saying is: if there is a reason you are drinking, and you have no mechanism to deal with that issue, and to replace alcohol with something else, it may be hard.

Sorry Matt - had to trim the excess to bring out your point(s)

As for the OP, surely that amount of empty calories has an impact on bodyfat?  (As I typed I just realised I have literally no idea what amount is in beer/spirits though - how have I made it all my life without knowing this, FFS!?)  So appeal to the narcissist in yourself :)

As for displacement activities, at the time you start drinking every day, just hit the weights instead?  Put that 'in the way' of the booze so to speak

Pretty weak I suppose, but I know people that has worked for


Yes Covid lockdowns that were completely useless turned me into an Alco

How's it going with the other thing, fella..?

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Alcohol and bodybuilding don’t mix

That jogged my memory a little - anyone else remember that Julian Schmidt article on 'Famous Viking/Norwegian Bodybuilder' where he tried to claim the guy was drinking gallons of beer every night..?  What was his name again...?
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Flexacon on May 09, 2022, 10:58:41 AM
Try some meth. It will help you completely forget about booze
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Taffin on May 09, 2022, 11:10:41 AM
Try some meth. It will help you completely forget about booze

Just stay away from kangaroos and second storey windows
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: 20inch calves on May 09, 2022, 11:36:47 AM
AD cherry? I think that was his name he was an alchemist at one time
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: King Shizzo on May 09, 2022, 11:55:53 AM
Just got back from 28 days of rehab.... :-X
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: wes on May 09, 2022, 12:22:59 PM
Just got back from 28 days of rehab.... :-X
Vero Beach ???
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: joswift on May 09, 2022, 02:30:17 PM
alcohol, the cause of, and solution to, all lifes problems
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: CalvinH on May 09, 2022, 03:23:52 PM
I think this is a good time to bring up an issue that I have, which has also been on my mind.

It's hard to quit something if you don't want to quit, or have no reason to quit.

It sounds like you are at the point of wanting to quit [hopefully NOT due to health reasons yet, but concern they may become an issue later in life].

So that's good that you want to quit.

One thing I hasn't brought up on Getbig [aside from PM] that I alluded to above, was that I had been smoking cigarettes during the pandemic.

In the past 57 days, I've smoked 19 cigarettes.

Most recently, I've dropped to smoking 2-3 on Sunday, but I skipped yesterday. So now I'm going to 2-3 every two weeks, the 2-3 a month, then see how I feel from there.

As to why I've been smoking - that was because fucking gyms were closed for 500+ fucking days straight. I was just filling time.

Now that I can work out without the police FOLLOWING ME TO THE GYM [I had no vaccine passport, so that happened 1-2 times per week], I've not wanted to smoke.

I still enjoy cigarettes though - but they cannot be moderated, IMO. So I'm thinking once a month would be ok. And that's when I realized - why even bother? I mean, if I smoke two cigarettes on the last day of the month, why not just smoke zero?

I'll go on record - I enjoy smoking cigarettes. I wish they were easier to moderate.

RJ DRIVER: our issues may be the same here, or similar - my issues with cigarettes is that I can't moderate them. And that's why I only smoke weekly.

I can almost guarantee you that if I allowed myself to smoke daily, I would smoke 5-25 cigarettes a day. In fact, IMO, if it was not for health issues, I would probably be a pack a day smoker.

Funny, given the first cigarette I smoked was age 34 [in 2016], and didn't start regularly smoking until age 36.

I smoke 2-3, one day per week. Or I might have one cigarette one day, then 1-2 another day of the week.

I'm currently at maybe 10/month, down from 30/month [one a day] during the pandemic.

There aren't even studies on my level of smoking, since apparently I'm the only person who smokes this little. Almost everyone smokes at least 2-3-4 daily, and there are no studies I'm aware of on 2-3 cigarettes a week.

My concern is that I might increase my smoking, and THAT can become a problem [whereas 2-3 a week is probably not a problem].

Here's one thing I'm thinking though:

There may be no way for me to moderate smoking.

There may be no way for ANYONE to moderate smoking.

Does ANYONE know ANYONE who only smokes cigarettes once a week?

I literally don't know of ANYONE but me.

So what I'm thinking is that smoking may be an "all or NOTHING" thing for me.

I moderate them extremely well, but they are very "more-ish". I find one leads to craving for another and another. They are inherently unsatisfying in this respect.

If I eat a cheat meal, I'm good for a month. But when I smoke even as much as ONE A DAY [which I was smoking during the pandemic], I always wanted another.

Thinking about your post has made me think about how hard it can be to quit. It seems like the best solution is to not go down that road to begin with...

Now on to YOUR post, RJ:

What are the reasons why you are drinking? I can tell you that the ONLY reason why I was smoking is because I went into the pandemic with a TINY smoking habit, and it ONLY stuck around because of the bullshit pandemic measures.

We only JUST got rid of all bullshit measures/mandates in Canada last month [except air travel], so it's only been a month of me being able to live my life again.

And SURPRISE SURPRISE, I only smokes like eight cigarettes since April 1st.

The reason why I couldn't quit is because I was facing issues causing me to smoke. And those issues were NOT in my control.

So my question for you to ask yourself is: why do you drink? Could you find a way to face those issues without drinking?

Can you find a replacement?

I have ONLY had legal access to public saunas since April 1st!!  That's when my gym gave up their bullshit policy of counting people who were going there. You had to sign in online, before going.  ::)

So if there is some reason you drink, it might be harder to quit, until you find a way to face that reason, and find a replacement for alcohol.

Clearly, there is some reason why it benefits you.

Is it safe to say you aren't just drinking the quantity of alcohol you do just to stave off withdrawals, but that you enjoy that amount?

Are you ready to give up that enjoyment, and just drink the minimum you need to not experience withdrawal [assuming you will have any withdrawal]?

I guess what I'm saying is: if there is a reason you are drinking, and you have no mechanism to deal with that issue, and to replace alcohol with something else, it may be hard.

IMO, wanting to quit is the first step. Replacing alcohol with something else would be good, if you can find such a replacement.

1-2, up to even three drinks daily [depending on your body weight / muscle mass] is probably not THAT bad. Another good first step would be to try to get into that range of drinking.

It seems unlikely to me that a person drinking 1-2...even 3 drinks daily is doing THAT much damage.

Cheers star George Wendt used to only drink starting at 8pm.

Is there any way to do that to start? I can tell you that by only allowing myself to smoke on Sundays, my smoking remains at almost nonexistent levels. But if I allowed myself 2-3 a day, that number could easily rise to a problematic level.

I've also found it daunting to think I will never smoke again. And that's why I allow myself to smoke on Sunday.

Sorry for the long post - you've made me think maybe it's time to just stop smoking outright. Why am I keeping a 10 cigarette/month habit?

Maybe it's just time to let it go.

I could probably smoke 7 cigarettes a day, and not face healthy issues. But I'm a big time hypochondriac, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. I'm a bigtime health pussy. I could probably get away with WAY more than I do - but I hate taking health risks.


TL,DR,FY
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: King Shizzo on May 09, 2022, 03:31:55 PM
 Tip of the day: Get health insurance. I had to pay over 18,000 dollars for my treatment.

Others only had to pay a co-pay.  :-\
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Notomorrow on May 09, 2022, 06:41:08 PM
Marijuana tends to work wonders for "grey area" alcoholism. No deleterious health effects. Harm reduction approach.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: MICHAEL9999X on May 09, 2022, 07:21:19 PM
This may be a game plan for you. https://www.businessinsider.com/tom-brady-alcohol-diet-rob-gronkowski-beer-water-2017-9

Also, may want to get the book Mood Cure by Julia Ross which has some good info about alcoholism and neurotransmitters in it.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Lartinos on May 09, 2022, 09:15:25 PM
I use the Less App to track my drinking and it averages out to around once a month as sometimes go months without drinking and some every other weekend or two in a row max usually I’d say.

4 months or so is the longest I usually go without any.

I was a functional binge drinker through my 20’s into my 30’s.

I was using alcohol as a method of repression with drinking being the learned coping behavior I had picked up through my parents.

When I started to connect the dots and also had an economic goal in my life it made it easier to give it up.

Wherever the turmoil is within the pillars of my life whether they be family, relationship, job/career, or health becomes the weakest link which I’d look to repress which just ends up having a nasty pop up effect long term.
 
Those internal secrets can eat you alive if you let them.



Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Wiggs on May 10, 2022, 01:18:34 AM
Several 4gm psylocybin (mushroom) trips will clean you right up...
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: bhank on May 10, 2022, 01:36:43 AM
Alcoholics Anonymous......do everything they tell you to and thank me later.

Of course you needed Jesus to quit talk about my lack of willpower you needed a make belief skygod and an entire organization to harass you
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: bhank on May 10, 2022, 01:38:16 AM
Just got back from 28 days of rehab.... :-X

You fat pathetic fuck
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: bhank on May 10, 2022, 01:39:19 AM
Marijuana tends to work wonders for "grey area" alcoholism. No deleterious health effects. Harm reduction approach.

Yep Cannabis is actually good for you
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 10, 2022, 02:38:19 AM
Just got back from 28 days of rehab.... :-X
Did it do any good?
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Phantom Spunker on May 10, 2022, 03:13:27 AM
Did it do any good?

No. Kumar's Beer & Pies went out of business.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Sissysquats on May 10, 2022, 03:20:36 AM
Alcoholics Anonymous......do everything they tell you to and thank me later.

 Absolutely
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: bhank on May 10, 2022, 03:39:05 AM
Absolutely

Nothing more pathetic than middle aged drunks finding Jesus
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: GymnJuice on May 10, 2022, 04:41:12 AM
Nothing more pathetic than middle aged drunks finding Jesus

Maybe if you alternate weekly meetings with anorexics anonymous and bulimics anonymous it might keep your eating disorders at bay.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: King Shizzo on May 10, 2022, 05:21:37 AM
Did it do any good?
Yes, I have a more positive outlook on life now. I can't predict the future, because people can relapse at anytime. Was talking to a guy that relapsed after 12 years of sobriety.

Feel good though. Going to join a gym today as well.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: wes on May 10, 2022, 06:38:47 AM
Of course you needed Jesus to quit talk about my lack of willpower you needed a make belief skygod and an entire organization to harass you
Go fuck yourself.

I have enormous willpower.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Phantom Spunker on May 10, 2022, 07:44:26 AM
Yes, I have a more positive outlook on life now. I can't predict the future, because people can relapse at anytime. Was talking to a guy that relapsed after 12 years of sobriety.

Feel good though. Going to join a gym today as well.

Good effort, Shizzo. Looking forward to seeing a bit more than a hint of abs soon (no homo).
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: tommywishbone on May 10, 2022, 07:46:08 AM
No booze = lots more cash in your pocket.

Buy a snow leopard!
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: King Shizzo on May 10, 2022, 10:01:51 AM
Good effort, Shizzo. Looking forward to seeing a bit more than a hint of abs soon (no homo).
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: GymnJuice on May 10, 2022, 11:08:59 AM
Yes, I have a more positive outlook on life now. I can't predict the future, because people can relapse at anytime. Was talking to a guy that relapsed after 12 years of sobriety.

Feel good though. Going to join a gym today as well.

Is planet fitness offering beer to go along with their pizzas now?

 ;D
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: 20inch calves on May 10, 2022, 12:01:27 PM
Of course you needed Jesus to quit talk about my lack of willpower you needed a make belief skygod and an entire organization to harass you


Bhank sometimes your are really ignorant. I'm not going to argue with u in get drawn into this but u shouldn't make fun of someone's religious beliefs
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Flexacon on May 10, 2022, 01:03:55 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=678797.0;attach=1367351;image)

Bhanky is king now.

You have a lot of work/lot of cocks to suck if you want your crown back.

WB though
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: King Shizzo on May 10, 2022, 03:09:09 PM
Bhanky is king now.

You have a lot of work/lot of cocks to suck if you want your crown back.

WB though
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: daddy8ball on May 10, 2022, 03:19:02 PM
Since then (October) I’ve been back on the sauce and unable to quit. Any suggestions on how to quit? Willpower just doesn’t cut it.

I've been through this. I thought I was never going to quit. (Still kind of surprised -- quit in 2016). What I did was take the money I'd spend on beer and buy some really good food instead. Just pigged out. (When I was full I didn't feel like drinking.) Then I would focus on how shitty I felt during a hangover and focus on everything I wasn't doing because I felt like absolute shit.

Eventually, my mind convinced itself(?) that being hungover was a waste of time and it cut down the desire significantly. (I wouldn't focus on wanting a drink -- I'd focus on how shitty I'd feel in the morning -- if this makes sense.)

Good luck bro.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: bhank on May 11, 2022, 07:40:05 AM


Did you join a gym and workout like you claimed you would yesterday yes or no??? Of course you didnt you fat pathetic fuck
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: bhank on May 11, 2022, 07:41:05 AM

Bhank sometimes your are really ignorant. I'm not going to argue with u in get drawn into this but u shouldn't make fun of someone's religious beliefs

I will absolutely make fun of any ignorant bastard praying to a make believe sky god stop pretending to know things you don't know and get an actual education vs believing in fairy tales for children
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: webstar on May 11, 2022, 07:48:02 AM
I will absolutely make fun of any ignorant bastard praying to a make believe sky god stop pretending to know things you don't know and get an actual education vs believing in fairy tales for children

bhanks, does your maid provide you with any other rec drugs or just amphetamines'.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: 20inch calves on May 11, 2022, 10:15:16 AM
bhanks, does your maid provide you with any other rec drugs or just amphetamines'.

All jokes aside bhanks seems like he's on something besides peds...hes all over the place.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Titus Pullo on May 11, 2022, 01:07:56 PM
All jokes aside bhanks seems like he's on something besides peds...hes all over the place.

Indeed.  My guess* is we're looking at more than a one-time dose of Adderall.  The shitty spelling and constant recycling of lame Ad Hominem attacks points to a potential combination of illicit substance consumption, possibly exacerbated by drinking.

*But hey, what do I know?  I'm "just a hater," likely fat and, even if I did "even train" (or somesuch nonsense Wanks will say), that I laugh at a 48" coat, sloppy 350 bench and a paltry 55" shoulder circumference just begs me to "post pics or shut up"; and if I do, he'd ignore how badly I outclass him, would say his parade float of a balding head would "get more looks at the beach" or that he could take me in a cage fight :/

Same old, same old Jason Genovaesque levels of utter delusion.  At least Lord Pisstard had the excuse of a 65-70 I.Q.

P.S. -- If you're so proud of your bench presses to the neck, why don't you film a set, Brian?  While you're correct that a bodybuilder's goal is to induce hypertrophy and, as such, won't necessarily be competitive strength-wise with a powerlifter of comparable weight, we've seen your "bodybuilding form."  A few decent reps with 225 on the back squat is pathetic, no matter the extent of your various ailments.  Justplanejane from this board could pass that in a year, and she's not on 500 mg of test weekly and weighs 145 pounds.

I await the usual insults and excuses why you can only film embarrassing squat footage.  Heaven forbid you ask someone in the gym, or your girlfriend, to film for you :/
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on May 11, 2022, 01:10:58 PM
I could stop drinking alcohol completely if I wanted to. I enjoy a beer or some wine once in a while.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Henda on May 11, 2022, 01:16:57 PM
I could stop drinking alcohol completely if I wanted to. I enjoy a beer or some wine once in a while.

Same here for all I love to get absolutely shitfaced every once in a while it wouldn’t be end of the world if never drank again
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: ThisisOverload on May 11, 2022, 04:08:03 PM
Indeed.  My guess* is we're looking at more than a one-time dose of Adderall.  The shitty spelling and constant recycling of lame Ad Hominem attacks points to a potential combination of illicit substance consumption, possibly exacerbated by drinking.

*But hey, what do I know?  I'm "just a hater," likely fat and, even if I did "even train" (or somesuch nonsense Wanks will say), that I laugh at a 48" coat, sloppy 350 bench and a paltry 55" shoulder circumference just begs me to "post pics or shut up"; and if I do, he'd ignore how badly I outclass him, would say his parade float of a balding head would "get more looks at the beach" or that he could take me in a cage fight :/

Same old, same old Jason Genovaesque levels of utter delusion.  At least Lord Pisstard had the excuse of a 65-70 I.Q.

P.S. -- If you're so proud of your bench presses to the neck, why don't you film a set, Brian?  While you're correct that a bodybuilder's goal is to induce hypertrophy and, as such, won't necessarily be competitive strength-wise with a powerlifter of comparable weight, we've seen your "bodybuilding form."  A few decent reps with 225 on the back squat is pathetic, no matter the extent of your various ailments.  Justplanejane from this board could pass that in a year, and she's not on 500 mg of test weekly and weighs 145 pounds.

I await the usual insults and excuses why you can only film embarrassing squat footage.  Heaven forbid you ask someone in the gym, or your girlfriend, to film for you :/

He's strung out on amphetamines.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: POB on May 12, 2022, 03:36:25 AM
So I’ve struggled with drinking the past 5 years. I consider myself in the “grey area alcoholic”. My wife scoffs at me when I say I’m an alcoholic. She can drink for a week then not touch it for months. So I don’t thing she understands where I’m coming from. I dont have to drink everyday to function or don’t have to drink till I pass out. I just feel the overwhelming need to drink everyday. Usually 3-6 beers but it prevents me from succeeding in other areas of my life and im just done with it. I successfully went dry for 7 months last year. Then I went on vacation with friends I’ve known for 30 years and thought I could drink for a week and be okay. Since then (October) I’ve been back on the sauce and unable to quit. Any suggestions on how to quit? Willpower just doesn’t cut it. My previous dry period was due to being completely done by making bad choices and Turing to the Bible and trying to live a righteous life. So far that has not worked this go around. It’s tough to admit it but I know I’m weak.

Replace your bad addiction with a good one like working out easiest way to do it
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: loco on October 13, 2022, 08:23:17 AM
A man who lost 80 pounds on a 'game changer' weight-loss drug also lost his desire to drink alcohol. Experts say the drug could treat all kinds of addiction.

Semaglutide, sold under the brand names Wegovy and Ozempic, is an injectable drug that boosts the production of insulin, a hormone that helps regulate blood sugar. While both drugs were originally intended to help manage diabetes, Wegovy was also approved as a weight-loss drug in June 2021.

Some obesity-medicine experts have called the drug a “game changer.” Research has found it can lead to a 15% to 20% reduction in body weight over 68 weeks.

Kolodzik told Insider that some of his weight-loss patients say they no longer experience alcohol cravings while on semaglutide. A similar phenomenon has been demonstrated in rat studies, too.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/HC1dbmzmcYf18t2RfiHZTg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQ1NztjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/Q8KZUjJVI4egLsTmAUWu.g--~B/aD01NDQ7dz04NDA7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/insider_articles_922/3d0410a3d636e83ea894c71d9b788548)

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/WmVmEnMOmz2J5mDEK4bbaQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTk0MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/lRuYgczqoc7GCpd9Ah6wEg--~B/aD0zMDg4O3c9MjMxNjthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/insider_articles_922/0f47e60237efe732b19ffda86259086e)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-lost-80-pounds-game-110000148.html
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: IroNat on October 13, 2022, 11:26:41 AM
Honestly no shit talking does that really help you? I’ve always been tentative to going to those places

Have a couple drinks before you go to get your courage up.

(In case the OP still has a problem.)


Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 13, 2022, 05:49:33 PM
Indeed.  My guess* is we're looking at more than a one-time dose of Adderall.  The shitty spelling and constant recycling of lame Ad Hominem attacks points to a potential combination of illicit substance consumption, possibly exacerbated by drinking.

*But hey, what do I know?  I'm "just a hater," likely fat and, even if I did "even train" (or somesuch nonsense Wanks will say), that I laugh at a 48" coat, sloppy 350 bench and a paltry 55" shoulder circumference just begs me to "post pics or shut up"; and if I do, he'd ignore how badly I outclass him, would say his parade float of a balding head would "get more looks at the beach" or that he could take me in a cage fight :/

Same old, same old Jason Genovaesque levels of utter delusion.  At least Lord Pisstard had the excuse of a 65-70 I.Q.

P.S. -- If you're so proud of your bench presses to the neck, why don't you film a set, Brian?  While you're correct that a bodybuilder's goal is to induce hypertrophy and, as such, won't necessarily be competitive strength-wise with a powerlifter of comparable weight, we've seen your "bodybuilding form."  A few decent reps with 225 on the back squat is pathetic, no matter the extent of your various ailments.  Justplanejane from this board could pass that in a year, and she's not on 500 mg of test weekly and weighs 145 pounds.

I await the usual insults and excuses why you can only film embarrassing squat footage.  Heaven forbid you ask someone in the gym, or your girlfriend, to film for you :/

I get your point but I’m only 131 lbs.   🙋‍♀️

I’m working on trying to get 3 reps with 225 lbs on the squat, but I’m not there yet.

And I also know that no Doctor prescribes Anadrol for anemia. None, no one.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: ThisisOverload on October 13, 2022, 06:05:56 PM
A man who lost 80 pounds on a 'game changer' weight-loss drug also lost his desire to drink alcohol. Experts say the drug could treat all kinds of addiction.

Semaglutide, sold under the brand names Wegovy and Ozempic, is an injectable drug that boosts the production of insulin, a hormone that helps regulate blood sugar. While both drugs were originally intended to help manage diabetes, Wegovy was also approved as a weight-loss drug in June 2021.

Some obesity-medicine experts have called the drug a “game changer.” Research has found it can lead to a 15% to 20% reduction in body weight over 68 weeks.

Kolodzik told Insider that some of his weight-loss patients say they no longer experience alcohol cravings while on semaglutide. A similar phenomenon has been demonstrated in rat studies, too.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/HC1dbmzmcYf18t2RfiHZTg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQ1NztjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/Q8KZUjJVI4egLsTmAUWu.g--~B/aD01NDQ7dz04NDA7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/insider_articles_922/3d0410a3d636e83ea894c71d9b788548)

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/WmVmEnMOmz2J5mDEK4bbaQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTk0MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/lRuYgczqoc7GCpd9Ah6wEg--~B/aD0zMDg4O3c9MjMxNjthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/insider_articles_922/0f47e60237efe732b19ffda86259086e)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-lost-80-pounds-game-110000148.html

But he is still fat as hell.

Losing 10-15% in 68 weeks?

What a gamechanger for lazy fat asses. ;D

I can lose 10% in 2 months just adjusting my diet and doing cardio 3 days a week.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: 20inch calves on October 13, 2022, 06:37:57 PM
This topic hits home for me. I've struggled really for the last 4 yrs. I was drinking almost every night at one point. Waking up hungover... I had it down to a science time wise so I get enough sleep to function at work. I got so use to the hangovers they didn't really bother me. Then I'd get home to crack open the bottle all over again. Now I only drink beer on one of my days off. Which was yesterday. It's rough..I want to compete but I know that with drinking I'm just spinning my wheels. I tell everyone DON'T start..it's a trap and drinking will eventually get a hold on u
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: ChristopherA on October 13, 2022, 07:06:46 PM
I think this is a good time to bring up an issue that I have, which has also been on my mind.

It's hard to quit something if you don't want to quit, or have no reason to quit.

It sounds like you are at the point of wanting to quit [hopefully NOT due to health reasons yet, but concern they may become an issue later in life].

So that's good that you want to quit.

One thing I hasn't brought up on Getbig [aside from PM] that I alluded to above, was that I had been smoking cigarettes during the pandemic.

In the past 57 days, I've smoked 19 cigarettes.

Most recently, I've dropped to smoking 2-3 on Sunday, but I skipped yesterday. So now I'm going to 2-3 every two weeks, the 2-3 a month, then see how I feel from there.

As to why I've been smoking - that was because fucking gyms were closed for 500+ fucking days straight. I was just filling time.

Now that I can work out without the police FOLLOWING ME TO THE GYM [I had no vaccine passport, so that happened 1-2 times per week], I've not wanted to smoke.

I still enjoy cigarettes though - but they cannot be moderated, IMO. So I'm thinking once a month would be ok. And that's when I realized - why even bother? I mean, if I smoke two cigarettes on the last day of the month, why not just smoke zero?

I'll go on record - I enjoy smoking cigarettes. I wish they were easier to moderate.

RJ DRIVER: our issues may be the same here, or similar - my issues with cigarettes is that I can't moderate them. And that's why I only smoke weekly.

I can almost guarantee you that if I allowed myself to smoke daily, I would smoke 5-25 cigarettes a day. In fact, IMO, if it was not for health issues, I would probably be a pack a day smoker.

Funny, given the first cigarette I smoked was age 34 [in 2016], and didn't start regularly smoking until age 36.

I smoke 2-3, one day per week. Or I might have one cigarette one day, then 1-2 another day of the week.

I'm currently at maybe 10/month, down from 30/month [one a day] during the pandemic.

There aren't even studies on my level of smoking, since apparently I'm the only person who smokes this little. Almost everyone smokes at least 2-3-4 daily, and there are no studies I'm aware of on 2-3 cigarettes a week.

My concern is that I might increase my smoking, and THAT can become a problem [whereas 2-3 a week is probably not a problem].

Here's one thing I'm thinking though:

There may be no way for me to moderate smoking.

There may be no way for ANYONE to moderate smoking.

Does ANYONE know ANYONE who only smokes cigarettes once a week?

I literally don't know of ANYONE but me.

So what I'm thinking is that smoking may be an "all or NOTHING" thing for me.

I moderate them extremely well, but they are very "more-ish". I find one leads to craving for another and another. They are inherently unsatisfying in this respect.

If I eat a cheat meal, I'm good for a month. But when I smoke even as much as ONE A DAY [which I was smoking during the pandemic], I always wanted another.

Thinking about your post has made me think about how hard it can be to quit. It seems like the best solution is to not go down that road to begin with...

Now on to YOUR post, RJ:

What are the reasons why you are drinking? I can tell you that the ONLY reason why I was smoking is because I went into the pandemic with a TINY smoking habit, and it ONLY stuck around because of the bullshit pandemic measures.

We only JUST got rid of all bullshit measures/mandates in Canada last month [except air travel], so it's only been a month of me being able to live my life again.

And SURPRISE SURPRISE, I only smokes like eight cigarettes since April 1st.

The reason why I couldn't quit is because I was facing issues causing me to smoke. And those issues were NOT in my control.

So my question for you to ask yourself is: why do you drink? Could you find a way to face those issues without drinking?

Can you find a replacement?

I have ONLY had legal access to public saunas since April 1st!!  That's when my gym gave up their bullshit policy of counting people who were going there. You had to sign in online, before going.  ::)

So if there is some reason you drink, it might be harder to quit, until you find a way to face that reason, and find a replacement for alcohol.

Clearly, there is some reason why it benefits you.

Is it safe to say you aren't just drinking the quantity of alcohol you do just to stave off withdrawals, but that you enjoy that amount?

Are you ready to give up that enjoyment, and just drink the minimum you need to not experience withdrawal [assuming you will have any withdrawal]?

I guess what I'm saying is: if there is a reason you are drinking, and you have no mechanism to deal with that issue, and to replace alcohol with something else, it may be hard.

IMO, wanting to quit is the first step. Replacing alcohol with something else would be good, if you can find such a replacement.

1-2, up to even three drinks daily [depending on your body weight / muscle mass] is probably not THAT bad. Another good first step would be to try to get into that range of drinking.

It seems unlikely to me that a person drinking 1-2...even 3 drinks daily is doing THAT much damage.

Cheers star George Wendt used to only drink starting at 8pm.

Is there any way to do that to start? I can tell you that by only allowing myself to smoke on Sundays, my smoking remains at almost nonexistent levels. But if I allowed myself 2-3 a day, that number could easily rise to a problematic level.

I've also found it daunting to think I will never smoke again. And that's why I allow myself to smoke on Sunday.

Sorry for the long post - you've made me think maybe it's time to just stop smoking outright. Why am I keeping a 10 cigarette/month habit?

Maybe it's just time to let it go.

I could probably smoke 7 cigarettes a day, and not face healthy issues. But I'm a big time hypochondriac, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. I'm a bigtime health pussy. I could probably get away with WAY more than I do - but I hate taking health risks.
Jesus Fuck! "Hey everyone look at me I smoke too many cigarettes" Fucking essay writing attention where gfy
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: ChristopherA on October 13, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
Of course you needed Jesus to quit talk about my lack of willpower you needed a make belief skygod and an entire organization to harass you
Go tear some more muscles you absolute fucking mess. You really are as unlikable as they come. Lecturing Matt on exercise form when you're just a torn up joke of a body. Who the fuck are you to judge anyone's beliefs you're a drug addict.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: beakdoctor on October 13, 2022, 09:25:52 PM
Jesus Fuck! "Hey everyone look at me I smoke too many cigarettes" Fucking essay writing attention where gfy

Honestly.....ffs. Matt forget about cigarettes  just work on quitting typing
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: IroNat on October 14, 2022, 03:35:16 AM
Matt,
Just say No to cigarettes.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: GymnJuice on October 14, 2022, 05:02:40 AM
Matt do you think smoking cigarettes is more or less healthy than carrying excess weight?
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: wes on October 14, 2022, 05:14:30 AM
Jesus Fuck! "Hey everyone look at me I smoke too many cigarettes" Fucking essay writing attention where gfy
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: ChristopherA on October 14, 2022, 05:16:05 AM
Alcoholics Anonymous......do everything they tell you to and thank me later.
The best advice in this thread.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: wes on October 14, 2022, 05:28:49 AM
The best advice in this thread.
I always thought AA was a crock of shit and tried to quit drinking hundreds of times.....I stopped for months,a few years,a few weeks,a day,20 minutes, etc. etc. but when I finally realized that I needed help to quit I vowed to try AA again and do whatever they advised me to do to quit killing myself......been sober now for over 24 years or so.

The shit works, but firstly and most importantly, you have to really have a strong desire to quit.

I`ve hit bottom many times years ago.....this was incentive enough after a while because as the old cliche` goes......."I got sick and tired of being sick and tired".

Do whatever it takes to quit because when it starts to become a major part of your lifestyle it progressively gets worse over time and before you know it you`re just another common garden variety drunk.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 14, 2022, 02:52:51 PM
Jesus Christ, 82% of male Getbiggers bleed from their asses.

Booze is the least of your problems you pervy bastards.

Hi Wes  !   🙋‍♀️
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Wiggs on October 14, 2022, 03:16:10 PM
So I’ve struggled with drinking the past 5 years. I consider myself in the “grey area alcoholic”. My wife scoffs at me when I say I’m an alcoholic. She can drink for a week then not touch it for months. So I don’t thing she understands where I’m coming from. I dont have to drink everyday to function or don’t have to drink till I pass out. I just feel the overwhelming need to drink everyday. Usually 3-6 beers but it prevents me from succeeding in other areas of my life and im just done with it. I successfully went dry for 7 months last year. Then I went on vacation with friends I’ve known for 30 years and thought I could drink for a week and be okay. Since then (October) I’ve been back on the sauce and unable to quit. Any suggestions on how to quit? Willpower just doesn’t cut it. My previous dry period was due to being completely done by making bad choices and Turing to the Bible and trying to live a righteous life. So far that has not worked this go around. It’s tough to admit it but I know I’m weak.

Hey bud, have you considered psilocybin?

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2795625
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: deadz on October 14, 2022, 03:24:32 PM
No interest in alcohol. I have no alcohol in my home. Cannabis is a different story.
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: wes on October 14, 2022, 03:29:16 PM
Jesus Christ, 82% of male Getbiggers bleed from their asses.

Booze is the least of your problems you pervy bastards.

Hi Wes  !   🙋‍♀️
What`s up Lady Jane...I hope all is well with you !  :)
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: Henda on October 14, 2022, 03:29:49 PM
But he is still fat as hell.

Losing 10-15% in 68 weeks?

What a gamechanger for lazy fat asses. ;D

I can lose 10% in 2 months just adjusting my diet and doing cardio 3 days a week.

Haha exactly. 68 weeks for him to still be bastard obese. What a useless lazy stupid fat cunt
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: irishdave on October 14, 2022, 04:44:43 PM
I struggle with it too. Daily. One of my many vices, I go through phases. Not doing too good right now

Gym in morning seems to help my discipline. Im going to bed early tonight
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 14, 2022, 07:18:12 PM
What`s up Lady Jane...I hope all is well with you !  :)

I’m doing okay Wes !  🙋‍♀️

I’m in Munich and headed to Lake Constance.

I will send you photos. Hang in there old man, no matter how bad things get, just remember, at least you’re not Shitzo !

🤣
Title: Re: Quiting Booze
Post by: CalvinH on October 14, 2022, 07:35:00 PM
Honestly.....ffs. Matt forget about cigarettes  just work on quitting typing

 ;D