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Drug problem??!!
Include me out ...... but I've had close friends who had or have serious drug related problems including alcohol .... which have led to incarceration and even suicide .... and since the Von Moger situation is big news within the bodybuilder world at present .... I'd like to talk about it ...... and if there is any interest .... even tell some drug related stories which have been a part of my lifetime experience.
To kick this off .... I'd like to inquire about the first steps that must be taken by drug addicts seeking recovery and even those drug addicts who are unwilling to seek help on their own.
In today's world can a drug addict be 'committed' to a drug rehab clinic without his or her consent?]
And what does it cost to 'enroll' within a drug recovery facility?
Which facilities are considered to be the best, the worst, the cheapest, the most expensive, and any other minute detail which you may know about or are interested in.
I got a story which I'll eventually build up the nerve to tell ya all in the event that this subject matter is of interest.
Drug and alcohol problems among good friends and family members tend to somewhat fuk-up a bit the lives of other clean and sober friends and family members, so I'm pretty sure that we all have a drug/alcohol related story to tell.
And I'd be interested to hear if any story is more fucked up than mine .... and the current details on how to get in ... and then get out .... of a drug rehab facility.
Including the cost and any other little detail.
Thanks!
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i do declare
tell us more
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First and last step quit being a weak-willed bitch and quit. If you think you need someone else to help you quit that is just an excuse because you don't want to actually quit. When you decide you are done you stop it’s that simple. Rehab aint going to do shit for someone who hasn't decided to quit and if they have they don't need rehab.
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Bro...
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Some folks need rehab, like some need (and find) religion. Whatever works for them of course.
I did notice in AA that most people there tend to blame others.
"My crappy family, my horrible upbringing, its a disease, etc".
Many weak people at some of those places who dont take ownership.
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Some folks need rehab, like some need (and find) religion. Whatever works for them of course.
I did notice in AA that most people there tend to blame others.
"My crappy family, my horrible upbringing, its a disease, etc".
Many weak people at some of those places who dont take ownership.
They also drink gallons of coffee while chain smoking cigarettes at their meetings.
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Lmfao!
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Drug problem??!!
Include me out ...... but I've had close friends who had or have serious drug related problems including alcohol .... which have led to incarceration and even suicide .... and since the Von Moger situation is big news within the bodybuilder world at present .... I'd like to talk about it ...... and if there is any interest .... even tell some drug related stories which have been a part of my lifetime experience.
To kick this off .... I'd like to inquire about the first steps that must be taken by drug addicts seeking recovery and even those drug addicts who are unwilling to seek help on their own.
In today's world can a drug addict be 'committed' to a drug rehab clinic without his or her consent?]
And what does it cost to 'enroll' within a drug recovery facility?
Which facilities are considered to be the best, the worst, the cheapest, the most expensive, and any other minute detail which you may know about or are interested in.
I got a story which I'll eventually build up the nerve to tell ya all in the event that this subject matter is of interest.
Drug and alcohol problems among good friends and family members tend to somewhat fuk-up a bit the lives of other clean and sober friends and family members, so I'm pretty sure that we all have a drug/alcohol related story to tell.
And I'd be interested to hear if any story is more fucked up than mine .... and the current details on how to get in ... and then get out .... of a drug rehab facility.
Including the cost and any other little detail.
Thanks!
Were you “violated” ?
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First and last step quit being a weak-willed bitch and quit. If you think you need someone else to help you quit that is just an excuse because you don't want to actually quit. When you decide you are done you stop it’s that simple. Rehab aint going to do shit for someone who hasn't decided to quit and if they have they don't need rehab.
^^^^ This.
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Some folks need rehab, like some need (and find) religion. Whatever works for them of course.
I did notice in AA that most people there tend to blame others.
"My crappy family, my horrible upbringing, its a disease, etc".
Many weak people at some of those places who dont take ownership.
I’ve noticed this as well with “AA” people. “Well my father drank”, “Well I lost my job”, etc.
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Drink Gatorade.
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First and last step quit being a weak-willed bitch and quit. If you think you need someone else to help you quit that is just an excuse because you don't want to actually quit. When you decide you are done you stop it’s that simple. Rehab aint going to do shit for someone who hasn't decided to quit and if they have they don't need rehab.
This.
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Some folks need rehab, like some need (and find) religion. Whatever works for them of course.
I did notice in AA that most people there tend to blame others.
"My crappy family, my horrible upbringing, its a disease, etc".
Many weak people at some of those places who dont take ownership.
the first step in AA is admitting that you have a problem and that you're unable solve it on your own .. how is that not taking ownership?
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AA works for a lot of people , it has the religion type/spiritual aspect to it so it helps loner types that otherwise wouldn’t find that support - i used to work with a lot of transient type females and this more than anything helped them
but i’ve seen people goto rehab for all kinds of shit - sex addicts, shopping addiction , i even knew 2 guys who went to rehab for ghb - it’s the same shit as those people who hoard shit - they need mental health professionals to assist in recovery
I’d like to see how Bhankz would deal with his daughter who had a pill problem - just lock her in her room for 2 weeks and hope for the best
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One step is to find a way to talk to several addiction oriented mental health professionals in your community (make sure they are unaffiliated and have no vested interest in particular facilities) and get their opinion on the best facilities. Then see if you can educate yourself on your person’s insurance and how much of this it covers.
Also, despite flaws and blame game, AA works wonders in many lives.
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One step is to find a way to talk to several addiction oriented mental health professionals in your community (make sure they are unaffiliated and have no vested interest in particular facilities) and get their opinion on the best facilities. Then see if you can educate yourself on your person’s insurance and how much of this it covers.
Love to live in a country where one's ability to obtain healthcare is determined by the ability to pay for it :-X
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Love to live in a country where one's ability to obtain healthcare is determined by the ability to pay for it :-X
You likely do.
And it sounds like you don’t understand America’s health care system, no one is denied health care, however we have the same issue that Socialized health care has, if you are willing to spend you can choose to see the “best” professionals.
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the first step in AA is admitting that you have a problem and that you're unable solve it on your own .. how is that not taking ownership?
That is the exact opposite of taking ownership. If you took ownership you would fix your problem yourself not expect others to do it for you
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That is the exact opposite of taking ownership. If yiu took ownership you would fox the problem yourself not expect others to do it for you
It`s obvious that you have never seen a heroin addict for example in the throes of addiction.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
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You likely do.
And it sounds like you don’t understand America’s health care system, no one is denied health care, however we have the same issue that Socialized health care has, if you are willing to spend you can choose to see the “best” professionals.
No one is denied emergent care, addiction therapy does not fall under that definition
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AA works for a lot of people
Does it really help a lot of people? I kow people on both sides quote statistics and some say AA doesn't do shit. But statistics can be interpreted in any number of ways.
I say whatever works but for myself AA is somehow distasteful. What do you think of using psychedelics to get clean? I know the founder of AA used acid but doubt he credits the acid.
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That is the exact opposite of taking ownership. If you took ownership you would fix your problem yourself not expect others to do it for you
“I have a problem and I’m unable to solve it by myself” is the epitome of ownership. Stubbornly insisting on doing it solo, in the face of repeated failures is just idiocy
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the first step in AA is admitting that you have a problem and that you're unable solve it on your own .. how is that not taking ownership?
Im just saying tons there blame everything else but themselves (in some of the speeches I heard).
Not going to argue semantics...
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“I have a problem and I’m unable to solve it by myself” is the epitome of ownership. Stubbornly insisting on doing it solo, in the face of repeated failures is just idiocy
what repeated failures if you wan to quit you quit its that simple
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It`s obvious that you have never seen a heroin addict for example in the throes of addiction.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
I have been around more than you think I have known a lot of adcicts. Hell my girlfriend literally runs the county drug court sending people to rehab with tax dollars.
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I have been around more than you think I have known a lot of adcicts. Hell my girlfriend literally runs the county drug court sending people to rehab with tax dollars.
And your point is ???
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Usyk says chatterboxes should be hit with sticks.
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It`s obvious that you have never seen a heroin addict for example in the throes of addiction.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
He knows everything though . Meanwhile he's addicted to trying to get his body to a certain size by depending on gear year round and force feeding himself
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Does it really help a lot of people? I kow people on both sides quote statistics and some say AA doesn't do shit. But statistics can be interpreted in any number of ways.
I say whatever works but for myself AA is somehow distasteful. What do you think of using psychedelics to get clean? I know the founder of AA used acid but doubt he credits the acid.
Yes it does help a lot of people. NA too
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He knows everything though . Meanwhile he's addicted to trying to get his body to a certain size by depending on gear year round and force feeding himself
Should I join a support group bodybuilders anonymous?
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15 almonds is the key
16 will fuck up your world
but 15 will fix most things
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Should I join a support group bodybuilders anonymous?
Haha naw. I would think about your health a little though. Your 45. Why not do actual TRT, like 100mgs a week.
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I have been around more than you think I have known a lot of adcicts. Hell my girlfriend literally runs the county drug court sending people to rehab with tax dollars.
Sounds like she is just passing the buck.
If she really wanted to help she would take an addict into your home.
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Thanks! Some great responses above which I never expected!
But I think that MPH said it best and what he recommended is the 'path' I failed to follow.
So Royalty's inquiry, "Were you violated?" which simply means " a failure to comply with some former agreement' just might be an appropriate question which I hope to respond to soon.
And to my good friend, WES, whose question was directed to Bhank, I have lived through a good friend's 'throes of addiction' for an extended period of time before I finally threw in the towel and walked away which was an act of VIOLATION of some sort on my part I guess / I think, Royalty.
Read on and you decide.
The following is a true story. Don't read it if you don't like true stories!
Especially stories with unhappy endings.
My sad drug related tale is a long one and right now I feel like I'm talking to a psychiatrist, so I'm gonna lay back and start my story in bits and pieces.
Here goes ...
I was stationed in Hawaii and met a friend of a fellow Jarhead who arrived from California to relax as he was in the process of recovering from a spinal injury which was caused by a heavy squatting incident.
As a result he spent numerous months in a California hospital undergoing numerous surgeries which overtime got him addicted to 'pain killers'.
So after a long period of time he gets released from the hospital with numerous prescriptions on his pocket and arrives in Hawaii with a solid metal and leather back brace which allowed him to stand and walk with lots of effort.
So a group of us are sitting on Waikiki Beach in front of Duke's and this 22 year old kid comes walking towards us walking very slowly like a Frankenstein stroll through the park.
This was the first time we met him.
So we are all sitting in the sun and I start questioning him about the monster metal and leather contraption he's wearing which started a very long conversation which concludes with one question:
"Can you swim?"
"No, I'd sink. My brace is too heavy!"
"Well take it off and let's go swimming!"
He laughed but myself and others persisted and eventually with his partial consent we walked with him into waist deep water and helped him remove the brace and he floated comfortably while one of us carried that brace ashore.
And with some help and encouragement we 'floated' him out to the reef, put a face mask on his head, and told him to take a look beneath the surface.
Those two or three minutes beyond the reef and the sight of some beautiful aquatic
creatures changed his life dramatically for the next few months because upon returning to the beach he asked if he could give it a try and walk without the back-brace.
It was slow going but he did manage and made the decision to keep on enjoying Hawaii and the colorful creatures beneath the sea without the back-brace which became a daily occurrence and a more than halfway, partial cure.
But the story continues which goes from this great day on Waikiki Beach to unspeakable hell just a few months away.
Gotta take leave and rob a casino!
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No one is denied emergent care, addiction therapy does not fall under that definition
Okay. There are multiple facilities for addiction that don’t require insurance. I have an unemployed/uninsured family member who’s in a rehabilitation facility today (in Orlando Florida ironically).
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Haha naw. I would think about your health a little though. Your 45. Why not do actual TRT, like 100mgs a week.
Because that is simply not an effective dosage. Who the fuck is anyone to say what is and isn't TRT if you Testosterone is low and you add more you are replacing your testosterone yes? You guys are arguing over something that is subjective like it is written in stone. I told you all exactly how much I took and you call me a liar because you disagree with a subjective classification. Everyone converts at a different rate. If you have to take 5grams a week to get to a total level of 800 is that not TRT? If you get to 900 and your natural levels were 700 at their peak is that someone no longer TRT if I get a refill of a 3/4 full drink and fill the cup up all the way is that not still a refill fucking nonsense.
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Because that is simply not an effective dosage. Who the fuck is anyone to say what is and isn't TRT if you Testosterone is low and you add more you are replacing your testosterone yes? You guys are arguing over something that is subjective like it is written in stone. I told you all exactly how much I took and you call me a liar because you disagree with a subjective classification. Everyone converts at a different rate. If you have to take 5grams a week to get to a total level of 800 is that not TRT? If you get to 900 and your natural levels were 700 at their peak is that someone no longer TRT if I get a refill of a 3/4 full drink and fill the cup up all the way is that not still a refill fucking nonsense.
Who are you to say what is an effective dose?
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Okay. There are multiple facilities for addiction that don’t require insurance. I have an unemployed/uninsured family member who’s in a rehabilitation facility today (in Orlando Florida ironically).
im truly glad that they were able to get help in spite of their circumstances. I think its a travesty that other people who are uninsured/unemployed might not be able to get help for their addiction.
our country spends ungodly amounts of money on military aid for other countries, most recently $40B for Ukraine. Id rather that money be spent on US citizens directly.
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im truly glad that they were able to get help in spite of their circumstances. I think its a travesty that other people who are uninsured/unemployed might not be able to get help for their addiction.
our country spends ungodly amounts of money on military aid for other countries, most recently $40B for Ukraine. Id rather that money be spent on US citizens directly.
Fantastic point! 100% Agree.
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Who are you to say what is an effective dose?
Go ahead and take 100mg have at it. I am telling you that is not an effective dosage for me. I have a very high metabolism it will do absolutely nothing for me. I honestly don't care how much anyone else does or doesn't take. You don't get a cookie for taking more less or none. If someone says they drink 5 beers socially are you going to argue with them to the death over how many beers is social drinking vs binge drinking how many joints is medicinal how many advil is for a headache wtf does it matter if they say they drink 5 beers it is 5 beers who gives a fuck how you subjectively classify it? How the fuck do you people not understand the difference between subjective statement and factual statements? 500mg is a factual statement TRT is subjective calling 100mg or 10kmg TRT or a cycle is a fucking subjective statement. It used to just be fake natties when I was younger now every idiot wants to brag about how little test they supposedly take for TRT you are still taking test regardless it doesn't matter how much you take. Fucking Pro's no longer say they don't take steroids they just say they take a TRT dosage. Idiots always want to say well I might not be in as good of shape but I only take x and he takes x times 2 it is all fucking bullshit test is test. Your body can only use so much anyway after it is full after you are hitting the receptors an extra fucking 1000cc a day isn't going to make a lick of difference. By all means take 500mg then try 5k you simply wont get any better results
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Should I join a support group bodybuilders anonymous?
One needs to be a bodybuilder first. Kinda like non alcoholics don’t join AA
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Bhanky is mentally addicted to steroids.
Bio-identical ones of course.
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Thanks! Some great responses above which I never expected!
Thanks man, glad to help.
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They also drink gallons of coffee while chain smoking cigarettes at their meetings.
so they just exchange one unhealthy addiction for another. not much of an upgrade.
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so they just exchange one unhealthy addiction for another. not much of an upgrade.
pretty much ;D cigs & coffee are legal though so it's ok .....
The most beneficial part of AA is that you can instantly access a sober, supportive community. They throw a lot of events and activities and so you can surround yourself w like-minded people almost 24/7. It's pretty tough to stay sober if all your friends use drugs or alcohol, and otherwise it can be hard to meet sober people.
It's a bit much though, I stay clean from an opioid addiction but enjoy a bit of pot here and there, and most people in there won't associate w anyone who uses any drugs. I can definitely see the value--especially for alcohol, which is ubiquitous at social gatherings
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In regards to alcoholism, the Sinclair Method seems like a much better form of treatment. Essentially it involves taking naltrexone prior to drinking so as to block the rewards associated with alcohol consumption. Telling an alcoholic to not drink, exercise willpower, etc. is a losing battle. IMO, of coursse...
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Here’s the problem…drug addicts have 0 self-control. Nothing can be done for a person with no self control. Let them all od.
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Go ahead and take 100mg have at it. I am telling you that is not an effective dosage for me. I have a very high metabolism it will do absolutely nothing for me. I honestly don't care how much anyone else does or doesn't take. You don't get a cookie for taking more less or none. If someone says they drink 5 beers socially are you going to argue with them to the death over how many beers is social drinking vs binge drinking how many joints is medicinal how many advil is for a headache wtf does it matter if they say they drink 5 beers it is 5 beers who gives a fuck how you subjectively classify it? How the fuck do you people not understand the difference between subjective statement and factual statements? 500mg is a factual statement TRT is subjective calling 100mg or 10kmg TRT or a cycle is a fucking subjective statement. It used to just be fake natties when I was younger now every idiot wants to brag about how little test they supposedly take for TRT you are still taking test regardless it doesn't matter how much you take. Fucking Pro's no longer say they don't take steroids they just say they take a TRT dosage. Idiots always want to say well I might not be in as good of shape but I only take x and he takes x times 2 it is all fucking bullshit test is test. Your body can only use so much anyway after it is full after you are hitting the receptors an extra fucking 1000cc a day isn't going to make a lick of difference. By all means take 500mg then try 5k you simply wont get any better results
Drink 5 beers socializing and drive, let me know what happens if you’re pulled over.
I’m missing your point if the body can only process x amount that more won’t do anything, because you said who is anyone to say what an effective dose is.
So I ask the same question, who are you to recommend effective doses?
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Go ahead and take 100mg have at it. I am telling you that is not an effective dosage for me. I have a very high metabolism it will do absolutely nothing for me. I honestly don't care how much anyone else does or doesn't take. You don't get a cookie for taking more less or none. If someone says they drink 5 beers socially are you going to argue with them to the death over how many beers is social drinking vs binge drinking how many joints is medicinal how many advil is for a headache wtf does it matter if they say they drink 5 beers it is 5 beers who gives a fuck how you subjectively classify it? How the fuck do you people not understand the difference between subjective statement and factual statements? 500mg is a factual statement TRT is subjective calling 100mg or 10kmg TRT or a cycle is a fucking subjective statement. It used to just be fake natties when I was younger now every idiot wants to brag about how little test they supposedly take for TRT you are still taking test regardless it doesn't matter how much you take. Fucking Pro's no longer say they don't take steroids they just say they take a TRT dosage. Idiots always want to say well I might not be in as good of shape but I only take x and he takes x times 2 it is all fucking bullshit test is test. Your body can only use so much anyway after it is full after you are hitting the receptors an extra fucking 1000cc a day isn't going to make a lick of difference. By all means take 500mg then try 5k you simply wont get any better results
You're a moron.
Justify your drug addiction any way you want Brian.
Talking in circles doesn't make you right.
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You're a moron.
Justify your drug addiction any way you want Brian.
Talking in circles doesn't make you right.
Who says I am taking a high dosage again that is subjective learn the difference between subjective opinions and facts hell maybe learn the difference between a naturally occuring hormone your body produces and a drug while you are at it
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Who says I am taking a high dosage again that is subjective learn the difference between subjective opinions and facts hell maybe learn the difference between a naturally occuring hormone your body produces and a drug while you are at it
I'm just saying you're a moron.
Because you are.
That's a fact, not an opinion.
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In regards to alcoholism, the Sinclair Method seems like a much better form of treatment. Essentially it involves taking naltrexone prior to drinking so as to block the rewards associated with alcohol consumption. Telling an alcoholic to not drink, exercise willpower, etc. is a losing battle. IMO, of coursse...
In most cases, alcoholism and drug addiction is a thinking disease....in other words, even if this med helped kill cravings, the mental aspect is still there.
You have to have a strong desire to quit, then work on why you drink or get high, from a mental point of view, help from people who give a fuck should be accepted wholeheartedly.
Does anyone here believe that a wino or junkie is having a great time, even from the start....no, they are usually using to escape their reality because something is wrong in their lives either real or imagined....doesn`t matter.
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I'm just saying you're a moron.
Because you are.
That's a fact, not an opinion.
Statistically speaking I am a genius bur that doesnt mean I cant make poor life choices and bad decisions
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Does anyone here believe that a wino or junkie is having a great time, even from the start....no, they are usually using to escape their reality because something is wrong in their lives either real or imagined....doesn`t matter.
My oldest brother is an alcoholic.
Well, he won't admit it.
But he is.
Trying to help someone who doesn't want help is impossible.
But a few times a year he breaks down and calls me, to tell me how miserable his life is.
Yet he has no interest in stopping.
It's a vicious cycle.
I feel bad for addicts, it's not always a black and white situation.
But i will agree that the first step to recovery is "wanting" to stop and realizing the problem.
My cousin did the 30 day rehab thing 4 times over a period of 2-3 years. Insurance paid for it, $30k a month. Didn't work for him but it does work for many people.
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My oldest brother is an alcoholic.
Well, he won't admit it.
But he is.
Trying to help someone who doesn't want help is impossible.
But a few times a year he breaks down and calls me, to tell me how miserable his life is.
Yet he has no interest in stopping.
It's a vicious cycle.
I feel bad for addicts, it's not always a black and white situation.
But i will agree that the first step to recovery is "wanting" to stop and realizing the problem.
My cousin did the 30 day rehab thing 4 times over a period of 2-3 years. Insurance paid for it, $30k a month. Didn't work for him but it does work for many people.
Most people have to hit rock bottom before they even think about stopping................ ..unfortunately.
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Because that is simply not an effective dosage. Who the fuck is anyone to say what is and isn't TRT if you Testosterone is low and you add more you are replacing your testosterone yes? You guys are arguing over something that is subjective like it is written in stone. I told you all exactly how much I took and you call me a liar because you disagree with a subjective classification. Everyone converts at a different rate. If you have to take 5grams a week to get to a total level of 800 is that not TRT? If you get to 900 and your natural levels were 700 at their peak is that someone no longer TRT if I get a refill of a 3/4 full drink and fill the cup up all the way is that not still a refill fucking nonsense.
Jesus H no trt is not subjective. Yes dosages can vary. Like I've told you before post up your blood work and let everyone see where 500mgs is putting you. Go ahead, shut everyone up. You won't though because you're on 4-5x what is actually trt
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Who says I am taking a high dosage again that is subjective learn the difference between subjective opinions and facts hell maybe learn the difference between a naturally occuring hormone your body produces and a drug while you are at it
Does your body naturally produce anadrol. Keep killing yourself dude have at it. Keep us posted with your awful blood pressure reading in the meantime and your resting heart rate of 120 .
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Some folks need rehab, like some need (and find) religion. Whatever works for them of course.
I did notice in AA that most people there tend to blame others.
"My crappy family, my horrible upbringing, its a disease, etc".
Many weak people at some of those places who dont take ownership.
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Jesus H no trt is not subjective. Yes dosages can vary. Like I've told you before post up your blood work and let everyone see where 500mgs is putting you. Go ahead, shut everyone up. You won't though because you're on 4-5x what is actually trt
It is absolutely subjective again how the fuck do you not understand the difference between subjective classifications and facts? I also have not had bloodwork recently. You can't even post a pic proving you know where the fucking gym is and you want my bloodwork fuck off
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Does your body naturally produce anadrol. Keep killing yourself dude have at it. Keep us posted with your awful blood pressure reading in the meantime and your resting heart rate of 120 .
It is for my anemia and Andarol doesn't kill anyone it is FDA approved for children and women dumbass. Let me ask do you have any exp with it or are you ju]st talking out of your ass exactly. What makes 120 awful because someone told you it's awful think for yourself idiot babies have heart rates of 120 again think
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It is for my anemia and Andarol doesn't kill anyone it is FDA approved for children and women dumbass. Let me ask do you have any expo with it or are you jujst talking out of your ass exactly. What makes 120 awful because someone told you it's awful think for yourself idiot babies have heart rates of 120 again think
What 44 year old male/ female that’s not transitioning is prescribed 500 mg of TRT?
Even IFBB pros who blast and cruise use 250-300 as their TRT dose.
So it’s not subjective you are just an insecure 5’9 manlet.
All drugs.
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What 44 year old male/ female that’s not transitioning is prescribed 500 mg of TRT?
Even IFBB pros who blast and cruise use 250-300 as their TRT dose.
So it’s not subjective you are just an insecure 5’9 manlet.
All drugs.
Lol dumbass you actually believe what they tell you on video before trying to sell you fart powder. I would bet my life I am twice your fucking size
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What 44 year old male/ female that’s not transitioning is prescribed 500 mg of TRT?
Even IFBB pros who blast and cruise use 250-300 as their TRT dose.
So it’s not subjective you are just an insecure 5’9 manlet.
All drugs.
"Subjective trt" lmao I've heard it all. When he doesn't crack 230lbs he's decide his trt isn't enough and up it to 750. Because you know, its subjective
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It is for my anemia and Andarol doesn't kill anyone it is FDA approved for children and women dumbass. Let me ask do you have any exp with it or are you ju]st talking out of your ass exactly. What makes 120 awful because someone told you it's awful think for yourself idiot babies have heart rates of 120 again think
;D
Babies have a high heart rate and are growing quickly. Hanky has a high heart rate therefore he is growing quickly.
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;D
Babies have a high heart rate and are growing quickly. Hanky has a high heart rate therefore he is growing quickly.
Now you are thinking
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"Subjective trt" lmao I've heard it all. When he doesn't crack 230lbs he's decide his trt isn't enough and up it to 750. Because you know, its subjective
Because more doesn't do more tried to explain that to you why don't you do some exp and find out for yourself it doesnt work that way
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Because more doesn't do more tried to explain that to you why don't you do some exp and find out for yourself it doesnt work that way
So pros should all drop to 500? The grams they're taking is a waist,better let them know
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Jesus H no trt is not subjective. Yes dosages can vary. Like I've told you before post up your blood work and let everyone see where 500mgs is putting you. Go ahead, shut everyone up. You won't though because you're on 4-5x what is actually trt
He's full of shit.
And he did post his bloodwork a few months ago and quickly deleted the Test levels.
Both free and total Test were off the charts and listed at maximum value.
hanky claims he was clean and not on TRT or anything else at the time. And that he has naturally high test levels.
Then his TRT Doc refused to treat him because of the results; he was obviously lying and no Doc is going to touch a patient like that.
Then all of a sudden he's on 500mg of Test for TRT. After seeking a new TRT Doc.
Now he's on Anadrol for anemia, when it hasn't been used to treat anemia in 30 years. There are much better options. Try finding Anadrol at a pharmacy, they don't carry it because it's obsolete. It would only be used as an absolute last resort, not the first option.
He's a liar and a fraud. A complete phony.
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He's full of shit.
And he did post his bloodwork a few months ago and quickly deleted the Test levels.
Both free and total Test were off the charts and listed at maximum value.
hanky claims he was clean and not on TRT or anything else at the time. And that he has naturally high test levels.
Then his TRT Doc refused to treat him because of the results; he was obviously lying and no Doc is going to touch a patient like that.
Then all of a sudden he's on 500mg of Test for TRT. After seeking a new TRT Doc.
Now he's on Anadrol for anemia, when it hasn't been used to treat anemia in 30 years. There are much better options. Try finding Anadrol at a pharmacy, they don't carry it because it's obsolete. It would only be used as an absolute last resort, not the first option.
He's a liar and a fraud. A complete phony.
I am telling you exactly what I am taking. Whether it is prescription or from my fucking bathtub or a Mexican doctor with a degree from Shizzo University doesn't change that and isn't relevant in anyway. This is an open forum other people read this disclaimers and prescriptions are necessary. Whether you call it TRT or a cycle doesn't change the fact that it is 500mg of Test and 100mg of Anadrol now does it??? I don't give a fuck where or how you think I got it. The point is it's 500mg of Test and 100mg of Anadrol that is what matters yes??? Fucking Moron if you want to find a Doctor to prescribe you Anadrol send me a PM I can send you a list of 20 it's not that difficult. Doctors will prescribe whatever you want as long as you give them a reason that is what they do. I gave them a reason and backed it up with bloodwork Anemia which covers their back and allows them to prescribe it's not that complicated whether you believe that or not doesn't matter anyway what matters is 500mg of Test and 100mg of anadrol you dumb fuck. Would you prefer I lie and say I take 100mg of Test? I even dated a damn Doctor previously just to get her to prescribe me my medications. No one said you are limited to the fucking local family physician you have been seeing for 20 years. If you Doctor says no find another one there are thousands of them. You can absolutely get any FDA approved medication prescribed if you use your Brain. Hell I had 3 different doctors at one point again fucking think. Deca, Anavar, hgh, are all easy to get prescribed compounding pharmacies can even prescribe Winstrol it is FDA approved use your brain I shouldnt have to explain everything to you. The fact that I am telling you exactly what I am taking makes me the only fucking honest one in the entire fucking industry. Right now 500mg test and 100mg anadrol. And no I do not use SEO never have and never will and I also do not use insulin. Anythign else I consider fair game but I would get a prescription first to protect myself legally. You don't need to go to Mexico you just need to have a brain. I will also take anastrazole once I get to bloated and want to drop the water weight again legally prescribed
There is nothing illegal about any level of Test
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I am telling you exactly what I am taking. Whether it is prescription or from my fucking bathtub or a Mexican doctor with a degree from Shizzo University doesn't change that and isn't relevant in anyway. This is an open forum other people read this disclaimers and prescriptions are necessary. Whether you call it TRT or a cycle doesn't change the fact that it is 500mg of Test and 100mg of Anadrol now does it??? I don't give a fuck where or how you think I got it. The point is it's 500mg of Test and 100mg of Anadrol that is what matters yes??? Fucking Moron if you want to find a Doctor to prescribe you Anadrol send me a PM I can send you a list of 20 it's not that difficult. Doctors will prescribe whatever you want as long as you give them a reason that is what they do. I gave them a reason and backed it up with bloodwork Anemia which covers their back and allows them to prescribe it's not that complicated whether you believe that or not doesn't matter anyway what matters is 500mg of Test and 100mg of anadrol you dumb fuck. Would you prefer I lie and say I take 100mg of Test? I even dated a damn Doctor previously just to get her to prescribe me my medications. No one said you are limited to the fucking local family physician you have been seeing for 20 years. If you Doctor says no find another one there are thousands of them. You can absolutely get any FDA approved medication prescribed if you use your Brain. Hell I had 3 different doctors at one point again fucking think. Deca, Anavar, hgh, are all easy to get prescribed compounding pharmacies can even prescribe Winstrol it is FDA approved use your brain I shouldnt have to explain everything to you. The fact that I am telling you exactly what I am taking makes me the only fucking honest one in the entire fucking industry. Right now 500mg test and 100mg anadrol. And no I do not use SEO never have and never will and I also do not use insulin. Anythign else I consider fair game but I would get a prescription first to protect myself legally. You don't need to go to Mexico you just need to have a brain. I will also take anastrazole once I get to bloated and want to drop the water weight again legally prescribed
There is nothing illegal about any level of Test
Why don't you post the script?
Do you think we will just believe you?
Your track record is a bit sketchy around here.
I am well aware of the health clinics that you can buy steroids from.
That makes more sense that you are self medicating.
You claimed a Doctor prescribed you Anadrol for anemia.
That is a lie, you just bought it at a clinic.
Same thing i do when i go to Mexico.
Send me your Doc's info.
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I am telling you exactly what I am taking. Whether it is prescription or from my fucking bathtub or a Mexican doctor with a degree from Shizzo University doesn't change that and isn't relevant in anyway. This is an open forum other people read this disclaimers and prescriptions are necessary. Whether you call it TRT or a cycle doesn't change the fact that it is 500mg of Test and 100mg of Anadrol now does it??? I don't give a fuck where or how you think I got it. The point is it's 500mg of Test and 100mg of Anadrol that is what matters yes??? Fucking Moron if you want to find a Doctor to prescribe you Anadrol send me a PM I can send you a list of 20 it's not that difficult. Doctors will prescribe whatever you want as long as you give them a reason that is what they do. I gave them a reason and backed it up with bloodwork Anemia which covers their back and allows them to prescribe it's not that complicated whether you believe that or not doesn't matter anyway what matters is 500mg of Test and 100mg of anadrol you dumb fuck. Would you prefer I lie and say I take 100mg of Test? I even dated a damn Doctor previously just to get her to prescribe me my medications. No one said you are limited to the fucking local family physician you have been seeing for 20 years. If you Doctor says no find another one there are thousands of them. You can absolutely get any FDA approved medication prescribed if you use your Brain. Hell I had 3 different doctors at one point again fucking think. Deca, Anavar, hgh, are all easy to get prescribed compounding pharmacies can even prescribe Winstrol it is FDA approved use your brain I shouldnt have to explain everything to you. The fact that I am telling you exactly what I am taking makes me the only fucking honest one in the entire fucking industry. Right now 500mg test and 100mg anadrol. And no I do not use SEO never have and never will and I also do not use insulin. Anythign else I consider fair game but I would get a prescription first to protect myself legally. You don't need to go to Mexico you just need to have a brain. I will also take anastrazole once I get to bloated and want to drop the water weight again legally prescribed
There is nothing illegal about any level of Test
You don't care about your health otherwise you'd get your bp under control. Also arimidex should be used whether you're bloated or not, high estrogen is not a good thing. I guarantee you are at least 3x's over the reference range on estrogen.
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Why don't you post the script?
Do you think we will just believe you?
Your track record is a bit sketchy around here.
I am well aware of the health clinics that you can buy steroids from.
That makes more sense that you are self medicating.
You claimed a Doctor prescribed you Anadrol for anemia.
That is a lie, you just bought it at a clinic.
Same thing i do when i go to Mexico.
Send me your Doc's info.
I don't care if you believe me I have a prescription they are easy to get especially if you have actual bloodwork showing a need but by all means carry your ass to Mexico instead dumbass
And again you are missing the entire point
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I don't care if you believe me I have a prescription they are easy to get especially if you have actual bloodwork showing a need but by all means carry your ass to Mexico instead dumbass
You are lying.
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I even dated a damn Doctor previously just to get her to prescribe me my medications.
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You are lying.
It doesnt matter again you are getting all caught up on the part that doesnt matter where or how or why instead of focusing on what actual matters. What are you taking and how much 500mg of Test and 100mg of Anadrol the shit you want to argue to death about does not matter either way does not change a godamn thing. People want to know what you are taking and what are your results. Whether you get it from a sketchy Dr a family physician or fucking China does not matter at all pick anyone you want it doesnt matter. But yes absolutely I have prescription and can and will produce them if anyone ever pulls up in a police car or request them in court. Otherwise fuck off I am telling you what matters 500mg of test and 100mg of Andarol that is as forthright as I can beon the internet you dumbfuck.
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You don't care about your health otherwise you'd get your bp under control. Also arimidex should be used whether you're bloated or not, high estrogen is not a good thing. I guarantee you are at least 3x's over the reference range on estrogen.
Low estrogen is how you get injured estrogen helps with growth why do you think cattle growth implants also contain estrogen?
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Low estrogen is how you get injured estrogen helps with growth why do you think cattle growth implants also contain estrogen?
How many years do cattle actually live before they're slaughtered, not long. You'll grow just fine with estrogen within the normal reference range.
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Apparently there are two schools of HRT therapy. One school treats lab values and the other obviously goes more after the subjective feeling of the patient. The subjective docs work at clinics that prescribe easily, with little labwork, and make their living from "wellness." Go figure. I mean actual endocrinologists usually look for pituitary tumors before prescribing test in the first place. But from what I've seen the liberal docs still look at lab values, it's not entirely subjective. For example, I saw on Facebook patients saying a certain doc allowed their patients to reach about 1300 (when accepted normal ranges are about 300-900 to a 1000mg) if that is where they feel their best. I would say bhank is wrong about true HRT, it's not that subjective, it would be extremely rare anyone is prescribed 500mg by a "serious" doc. But I'm told there are isolated cases when someone required 500mg to reach normal range.
I would say the 500mg docs are not true HRT at heart. They like to create a "suprahysiological man." Today when you look at people in the media, the people we are told are most attractive and most beautiful are largely artificial creations. The action men do not have normal levels of musculature and both the women and men are on GH and plastic surgery.
Is bhank endangering his life and denying what he is actually doing? How could I criticize him when I'm doing the same at the same age? But people here aren't just critical because they hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders or hormones, it's him being so cocky and unwilling to admit to anything negative. And sure, the few lifetime naturals and 50+ year old "not on since their 20s and no HRT" get their digs in. I can understand being pissed off the attitude but is what he is doing so crazy? I think he alternates between liberal HRT and light cycles. That's fine by me but there's still time to drop to true HRT at a later age. But sure, it might be a bit hypocritical and delusional of me since I'm doing the same.
As far as his physique, it's not bad at all considering his genetic muscle bellies and his handicaps. The size is more than it looks. I believe his bodyweight claims.The genetically gifted bodybuilders, the only ones who are responding to anabolics at all according to some here are the bodybuilders joswift and wes etc post. The ones who weigh way less than they look. If every weight lifter, juicer and recreational bodybuilder competed you would see the true average which I believe is way lower than many here assume. Most of us look like shit and should never be photographed or mentioned in connection to bodybuilding.
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How many years do cattle actually live before they're slaughtered, not long. You'll grow just fine with estrogen within the normal reference range.
Some "experts" claim the estrogen from conversion of test from test use is actually protective of health and should not be touched with antiestrogens, which bring more problems than they solve. I don't think this has been determined yet, at least to my satisfaction. There are pretty good arguments either way, I'm leaning more towards not touching it. But that might be because I never got into using them many years ago when they arrived on the market, they were pretty hard to get here. Some reputable people claim you simply can't get rid of enough fluid from your ankles for competition. I don't know about that, guys got plenty hard before AIs but OTOH they didn't use as many aromatizable compounds.
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Apparently there are two schools of HRT therapy. One school treats lab values and the other obviously goes more after the subjective feeling of the patient. The subjective docs work at clinics that prescribe easily, with little labwork, and make their living from "wellness." Go figure. I mean actual endocrinologists usually look for pituitary tumors before prescribing test in the first place. But from what I've seen the liberal docs still look at lab values, it's not entirely subjective. For example, I saw on Facebook patients saying a certain doc allowed their patients to reach about 1300 (when accepted normal ranges are about 300-900 to a 1000mg) if that is where they feel their best. I would say bhank is wrong about true HRT, it's not that subjective, it would be extremely rare anyone is prescribed 500mg by a "serious" doc. But I'm told there are isolated cases when someone required 500mg to reach normal range.
I would say the 500mg docs are not true HRT at heart. They like to create a "suprahysiological man." Today when you look at people in the media, the people we are told are most attractive and most beautiful are largely artificial creations. The action men do not have normal levels of musculature and both the women and men are on GH and plastic surgery.
Is bhank endangering his life and denying what he is actually doing? How could I criticize him when I'm doing the same at the same age? But people here aren't just critical because they hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders or hormones, it's him being so cocky and unwilling to admit to anything negative. And sure, the few lifetime naturals and 50+ year old "not on since their 20s and no HRT" get their digs in. I can understand being pissed off the attitude but is what he is doing so crazy? I think he alternates between liberal HRT and light cycles. That's fine by me but there's still time to drop to true HRT at a later age. But sure, it might be a bit hypocritical and delusional of me since I'm doing the same.
As far as his physique, it's not bad at all considering his genetic muscle bellies and his handicaps. The size is more than it looks. I believe his bodyweight claims.The genetically gifted bodybuilders, the only ones who are responding to anabolics at all according to some here are the bodybuilders joswift and wes etc post. The ones who weigh way less than they look. If every weight lifter, juicer and recreational bodybuilder competed you would see the true average which I believe is way lower than many here assume. Most of us look like shit and should never be photographed or mentioned in connection to bodybuilding.
hanky's test levels were off the charts without supplementation. His words. He was clean for months and was over 1500.
That is correct, there is legit TRT and "clinics" who you can buy whatever you want. Just like the pill mills that sell narcotics if you have money.
That's the point, having an Endo prescribe you Test because you need it. My Endo runs a gambit of tests on me every 6 months, and that is just for 100mg of Test a week. Real TRT. There is no such thing as TRT in the 500mg range. That's a full cycle for building muscle. No benefit to having levels that high unless you are trying to get big and strong.
hanky admitted he stopped doing legit TRT because he was tired of the testing required by his Doctor. Now he just pays for a script so he can avoid legal problems. He's laid it all out for us and forgets we all aren't retards like him and remember things.
He's paying for steroids at a "clinic" that isn't treating an illness.
I don't care what he does, it's his body, but he should be honest as some people might learn a thing or two.
He is bypassing the legal ramifications by not buying on the black market, which is a good idea.
He is not consulting a Doctor for health reasons, he's paying for steroids to gain muscle mass.
Just wish he would tell the truth.
There are a lot of things people can learn not to do from hanky.
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I am telling you exactly what I am taking. Whether it is prescription or from my fucking bathtub or a Mexican doctor with a degree from Shizzo University doesn't change that and isn't relevant in anyway. This is an open forum other people read this disclaimers and prescriptions are necessary. Whether you call it TRT or a cycle doesn't change the fact that it is 500mg of Test and 100mg of Anadrol now does it??? I don't give a fuck where or how you think I got it. The point is it's 500mg of Test and 100mg of Anadrol that is what matters yes??? Fucking Moron if you want to find a Doctor to prescribe you Anadrol send me a PM I can send you a list of 20 it's not that difficult. Doctors will prescribe whatever you want as long as you give them a reason that is what they do. I gave them a reason and backed it up with bloodwork Anemia which covers their back and allows them to prescribe it's not that complicated whether you believe that or not doesn't matter anyway what matters is 500mg of Test and 100mg of anadrol you dumb fuck. Would you prefer I lie and say I take 100mg of Test? I even dated a damn Doctor previously just to get her to prescribe me my medications. No one said you are limited to the fucking local family physician you have been seeing for 20 years. If you Doctor says no find another one there are thousands of them. You can absolutely get any FDA approved medication prescribed if you use your Brain. Hell I had 3 different doctors at one point again fucking think. Deca, Anavar, hgh, are all easy to get prescribed compounding pharmacies can even prescribe Winstrol it is FDA approved use your brain I shouldnt have to explain everything to you. The fact that I am telling you exactly what I am taking makes me the only fucking honest one in the entire fucking industry. Right now 500mg test and 100mg anadrol. And no I do not use SEO never have and never will and I also do not use insulin. Anythign else I consider fair game but I would get a prescription first to protect myself legally. You don't need to go to Mexico you just need to have a brain. I will also take anastrazole once I get to bloated and want to drop the water weight again legally prescribed
There is nothing illegal about any level of Test
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I even dated a damn Doctor previously just to get her to prescribe me my medications.
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Apparently there are two schools of HRT therapy. One school treats lab values and the other obviously goes more after the subjective feeling of the patient. The subjective docs work at clinics that prescribe easily, with little labwork, and make their living from "wellness." Go figure. I mean actual endocrinologists usually look for pituitary tumors before prescribing test in the first place. But from what I've seen the liberal docs still look at lab values, it's not entirely subjective. For example, I saw on Facebook patients saying a certain doc allowed their patients to reach about 1300 (when accepted normal ranges are about 300-900 to a 1000mg) if that is where they feel their best. I would say bhank is wrong about true HRT, it's not that subjective, it would be extremely rare anyone is prescribed 500mg by a "serious" doc. But I'm told there are isolated cases when someone required 500mg to reach normal range.
I would say the 500mg docs are not true HRT at heart. They like to create a "suprahysiological man." Today when you look at people in the media, the people we are told are most attractive and most beautiful are largely artificial creations. The action men do not have normal levels of musculature and both the women and men are on GH and plastic surgery.
Is bhank endangering his life and denying what he is actually doing? How could I criticize him when I'm doing the same at the same age? But people here aren't just critical because they hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders or hormones, it's him being so cocky and unwilling to admit to anything negative. And sure, the few lifetime naturals and 50+ year old "not on since their 20s and no HRT" get their digs in. I can understand being pissed off the attitude but is what he is doing so crazy? I think he alternates between liberal HRT and light cycles. That's fine by me but there's still time to drop to true HRT at a later age. But sure, it might be a bit hypocritical and delusional of me since I'm doing the same.
As far as his physique, it's not bad at all considering his genetic muscle bellies and his handicaps. The size is more than it looks. I believe his bodyweight claims.The genetically gifted bodybuilders, the only ones who are responding to anabolics at all according to some here are the bodybuilders joswift and wes etc post. The ones who weigh way less than they look. If every weight lifter, juicer and recreational bodybuilder competed you would see the true average which I believe is way lower than many here assume. Most of us look like shit and should never be photographed or mentioned in connection to bodybuilding.
Bingo.
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hanky's test levels were off the charts without supplementation. His words. He was clean for months and was over 1500.
That is correct, there is legit TRT and "clinics" who you can buy whatever you want. Just like the pill mills that sell narcotics if you have money.
That's the point, having an Endo prescribe you Test because you need it. My Endo runs a gambit of tests on me every 6 months, and that is just for 100mg of Test a week. Real TRT. There is no such thing as TRT in the 500mg range. That's a full cycle for building muscle. No benefit to having levels that high unless you are trying to get big and strong.
hanky admitted he stopped doing legit TRT because he was tired of the testing required by his Doctor. Now he just pays for a script so he can avoid legal problems. He's laid it all out for us and forgets we all aren't retards like him and remember things.
He's paying for steroids at a "clinic" that isn't treating an illness.
I don't care what he does, it's his body, but he should be honest as some people might learn a thing or two.
He is bypassing the legal ramifications by not buying on the black market, which is a good idea.
He is not consulting a Doctor for health reasons, he's paying for steroids to gain muscle mass.
Just wish he would tell the truth.
There are a lot of things people can learn not to do from hanky.
What part of I could not walk in 2019 did you miss I am absolutely trying to add muscle to my legs never denied that and if it is a script from a Dr at a clinic and the clinic calls itself TRT that is good enough for me. I never claimed to go to a local endo I have always used HRT and TRT clinics except when I actually dated a local female Dr who would prescribe it. I consider being able to walk a health reason also anabolics are anti-inflammatory and Crohns is an inflammatory disease. My two main health concerns are my knees that were inflamed and my digestive tract that was inflamed treating them is absolutely a legitimate health concern as is my anemia. When on nothing I can't walk and I cant keep food down right now I feel great that is a bigger concern to me than my blood pressure.
https://scholars.direct/Articles/gastroenterology/jgr-3-019.php?jid=gastroenterology
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Go ahead and take 100mg have at it. I am telling you that is not an effective dosage for me. I have a very high metabolism it will do absolutely nothing for me. I honestly don't care how much anyone else does or doesn't take. You don't get a cookie for taking more less or none. If someone says they drink 5 beers socially are you going to argue with them to the death over how many beers is social drinking vs binge drinking how many joints is medicinal how many advil is for a headache wtf does it matter if they say they drink 5 beers it is 5 beers who gives a fuck how you subjectively classify it? How the fuck do you people not understand the difference between subjective statement and factual statements? 500mg is a factual statement TRT is subjective calling 100mg or 10kmg TRT or a cycle is a fucking subjective statement. It used to just be fake natties when I was younger now every idiot wants to brag about how little test they supposedly take for TRT you are still taking test regardless it doesn't matter how much you take. Fucking Pro's no longer say they don't take steroids they just say they take a TRT dosage. Idiots always want to say well I might not be in as good of shape but I only take x and he takes x times 2 it is all fucking bullshit test is test. Your body can only use so much anyway after it is full after you are hitting the receptors an extra fucking 1000cc a day isn't going to make a lick of difference. By all means take 500mg then try 5k you simply wont get any better results
What's your sex hormone binding globulin sitting at out of interest? Must be near zero if your body is metabolising 500mg of "trt" at such lightning fast pace. You truly are 1 in a billion! A marvel of modern science. An outlier.
Or maybe, just maybe you're just full of absolute shit
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What part of I could not walk in 2019 did you miss I am absolutely trying to add muscle to my legs never denied that and if it is a script from a Dr at a clinic and the clinic calls itself TRT that is good enough for me. I never claimed to go to a local endo I have always used HRT and TRT clinics except when I actually dated a local female Dr who would prescribe it. I consider being able to walk a health reason also anabolics are anti-inflammatory and Crohns is an inflammatory disease. My two main health concerns are my knees that were inflamed and my digestive tract that was inflamed treating them is absolutely a legitimate health concern as is my anemia. When on nothing I can't walk and I cant keep food down right now I feel great that is a bigger concern to me than my blood pressure.
https://scholars.direct/Articles/gastroenterology/jgr-3-019.php?jid=gastroenterology
Bhanky,
I have some questions.
What ended this relationship?
Was he/she a tranvestite or trans-sexual?
Did you beat him/her up when he/she cut your dose?