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Title: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Palumboism on July 06, 2022, 12:53:11 PM
San Francisco Couple Threatened With $1,500 Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
BY Sebastien Bell

A San Francisco couple in the Noe Valley neighborhood of San Francisco are facing a heavy fine after being told that their parking pad actually breaks code.

ABC 7 News reports that Judy and Ed Craine are being forced to park on the city’s steep streets now that they have been told by the city to stop parking on their driveway after 36 years using the pad. The city says, though, that the spot violates a code section banning vehicles in a setback in front of a house.

The code was enacted for aesthetic reasons, according to Dan Sider, the chief of the San Francisco Planning Department. Although it’s okay to park in front of a garage, it’s a violation to park in front of a house even if the car doesn’t block a driveway so that “front yards don’t turn into parking lots,” Sider told ABC 7 News.

Sider said the city sent the Craines and two of their neighbors an email about the violation following an anonymous tip. Unfortunately for the couple, if they’re found to be using the spot again, they will be fined $1,542 plus another $250 a day for every additional day their car is on the car pad, much to their chagrin.

“Why are you taking away something that has great utility?” said Ed Craine. “To all of a sudden to be told you can’t use something that we could use for years. It’s, it’s startling. Inexplicable.”

Fortunately, there is a glimmer of hope. The Craines were told that their car pad could be grandfathered in if they could find a photo of the spot being used historically. The couple were happy to oblige and sent the Planning Department a photo of theirs from 34 years ago with their car in the lot. Frustratingly, though, this was deemed not to be old enough.

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/07/san-francisco-couple-threatened-with-1500-fine-for-parking-on-their-own-driveway/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2022/07/san-francisco-couple-threatened-with-1500-fine-for-parking-on-their-own-driveway/)



I would be angry every day of my life if I lived in San Francisco.   :-\

 
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Gym-Rat on July 06, 2022, 12:58:27 PM
Really important stuff to be harassing people with.
Meanwhile, gangs can run into stores, loot, smash and grab, and thats OK  ::) ::)

Libtards  ::) ::)
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: IroNat on July 06, 2022, 02:41:41 PM
They should be fined one million dollars.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Palumboism on July 06, 2022, 02:51:03 PM
They should be fined one million dollars.

The cities of the country are a disgrace. 
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Gym-Rat on July 06, 2022, 03:00:42 PM

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Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 06, 2022, 04:34:41 PM
What’s even more astounding, is that they’ll do nothing about it, and even worse, continue to live in a place that treats them like that all while letting people shit on the streets. They should be grateful that the city doesn’t make them put up a tent for the homeless on the driveway.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: cart@@n on July 06, 2022, 05:08:00 PM
War on human mobility.

They hate people with vehicles freely moving around.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Tapeworm on July 06, 2022, 06:35:39 PM
Local trolls need to pull in there there and forward photos to the city gubment.

"These people are now running a parking business! Can someone please rectify this situation posthaste!"

The internet should arrive and have a bbq on the parking pad. Hold an impromptu strongman competition. Set up a barber pole and a sign. SHAVES and a big arrow. Stand a wooden indian up and advertise it as an alfresco cigar lounge.


Or if you actually want to stick it to the council, get everyone to plonk down a garden gnome holding a note of support. "Let my people park!" Etc. 10s of thousands of grim visaged gnomes standing in solidarity on the front lawn. Gnome Army would trend. Politicians and bureaucrats would fear the Gnome Army.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: robcguns on July 06, 2022, 06:53:22 PM
Unfucking real.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Tapeworm on July 06, 2022, 07:12:59 PM
I don't think it's been done before, has it?

"Excuse me sir but I thought you'd want to know..."

"Yes, Trisha? What is it?"

"Um, there's a gnome army gathering at the Smith residence."

"... oh no."

"They say they've come for justice."
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Gym-Rat on July 07, 2022, 12:49:48 AM
Maybew they should go loot, hoot, holler,burn, kill (you know like BLM) its their "mostly peaceful" right to do so???
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Palumboism on July 07, 2022, 04:23:48 AM
Really important stuff to be harassing people with.
Meanwhile, gangs can run into stores, loot, smash and grab, and thats OK  ::) ::)

Libtards  ::) ::)

They've only been paying property tax to support this failed city for 36 years.  I can only imagine the decline they've seen over those years. 
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: wes on July 07, 2022, 05:03:21 AM
Unbelievable.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: funk51 on July 07, 2022, 05:34:44 AM
typical bullshit. a woman in my town had stage 4 cancer and couldn't afford to get her roof fixed. so she asked the town if they could help her out. their solution was, they said that they would  fine her 500 dollars a day after a certain date if it wasn't fixed because they considered it a blighted property. luckily some woman in another state heard the story and arranged for everything to be taken care of for free. now the woman can live her few remaining days in her childhood home.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on July 07, 2022, 06:02:41 AM
What’s the issue?  Rules are rules, even though they weren’t caught for years.

Anyways, I think it’s great ... cars & garages should be kept in the back of the lot, as they are in other civilized cities.  If you got a problem with that, move to the suburbs
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: IroNat on July 07, 2022, 07:22:15 AM
What’s the issue?  Rules are rules, even though they weren’t caught for years.

Anyways, I think it’s great ... cars & garages should be kept in the back of the lot, as they are in other civilized cities.  If you got a problem with that, move to the suburbs

I'm inclined to agree with you.

F*ck these idjits.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Tapeworm on July 07, 2022, 07:30:43 AM
typical bullshit. a woman in my town had stage 4 cancer and couldn't afford to get her roof fixed. so she asked the town if they could help her out. their solution was, they said that they would  fine her 500 dollars a day after a certain date if it wasn't fixed because they considered it a blighted property. luckily some woman in another state heard the story and arranged for everything to be taken care of for free. now the woman can live her few remaining days in her childhood home.

I've done some.charity.roofing. I might do some more if another little old lady is in the shit but:

1, wtf you been doing for the last 80 years that I have to buy the materials for you and install them for free?

2, You're dead real soon, so I'm basically giving your heirs my money because you're in a dire circumstance. And where are those heirs of yours while the rain is coming in on their mom's head?

I still did it tho. That's how I earned the right to gripe.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Palumboism on July 07, 2022, 08:12:33 AM
What’s the issue?  Rules are rules, even though they weren’t caught for years.

Anyways, I think it’s great ... cars & garages should be kept in the back of the lot, as they are in other civilized cities.  If you got a problem with that, move to the suburbs

The law is new.  They said they could be grandfathered in if they found an old picture of someone parking there and they did from 34 years ago.  Then a city bureaucrat said it wasn't old enough.

This couple has paid property tax to the city for 36 years and this is how they're treated.  And look at the sad condition of the rest of the city.  Much more important laws are not being enforced at all. 

Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: tommywishbone on July 07, 2022, 08:32:01 AM
Complete stupidity by the shit stained city of San Francisco.

Lawlessness abounds these last many years in San Francisco.

Rampant homelessness
Urine and feces soaked streets
Open drug use
No crimes under $5,000 even investigated
Criminals released within minutes of arrest on no bail

And the city enforces this bullshit? HAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 07, 2022, 09:55:03 AM
This happened with my brother on the east coast.  so not just a california thing. Apparently the person that owned the house before him never used their own driveway and allowed the neighbor to use it for years even though it's not her property.  So when my brother took ownership of the home she refused to stop parking on his driveway.  She even hired a lawyer and went to court and won.  WTF!  He buys a house and can't park on his own driveway when the neighbor has rights to it?
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: GymnJuice on July 07, 2022, 11:37:04 AM
This happened with my brother on the east coast.  so not just a california thing. Apparently the person that owned the house before him never used their own driveway and allowed the neighbor to use it for years even though it's not her property.  So when my brother took ownership of the home she refused to stop parking on his driveway.  She even hired a lawyer and went to court and won.  WTF!  He buys a house and can't park on his own driveway when the neighbor has rights to it?

Even if the courts allowed you to park on your neighbor's driveway daily I can't imagine it would be a good idea to do so. Having a neighbor pissed off at you just leads to needless headaches and agitations. I'm sure your brother found a way to get back at them. Most people would.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: illuminati on July 07, 2022, 11:54:14 AM
Really important stuff to be harassing people with.
Meanwhile, gangs can run into stores, loot, smash and grab, and thats OK  ::) ::)

Libtards  ::) ::)

Exactly - We have to wonder at the Ultimate Stupidity of The libtards.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Mayday on July 08, 2022, 03:40:06 AM

This couple has paid property tax to the city for 36 years and this is how they're treated.  And look at the sad condition of the rest of the city.  Much more important laws are not being enforced at all.

The city is a machine not a person, it cares not.

When the social credit score comes out people like this will be fined and shamed and those who speak out will be shamed. If a govt fines 2 people it doesn’t want 1,000,000 other people being outraged over shit that doesn’t concern them so it’ll hit the lot of you with a nasty point reduction.

The lesson learned behaviour wise is people will mind their own business and looking at China it works in that regard.

Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: 20inch calves on July 08, 2022, 07:20:32 AM
No way I'd live in a liberal state such as California.. what a mess the whole state is
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 08, 2022, 07:34:03 AM
This happened with my brother on the east coast.  so not just a california thing. Apparently the person that owned the house before him never used their own driveway and allowed the neighbor to use it for years even though it's not her property.  So when my brother took ownership of the home she refused to stop parking on his driveway.  She even hired a lawyer and went to court and won.  WTF!  He buys a house and can't park on his own driveway when the neighbor has rights to it?

I’d look into suing my Title company who helped close the loan. That should have been caught prior if it was really a thing. Fuck that bitch.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 08, 2022, 09:40:47 AM
I’d look into suing my Title company who helped close the loan. That should have been caught prior if it was really a thing. Fuck that bitch.

The courts fucked him good.  He has no right to use his own driveway and he had to pay her legal fees.  The judicial system in this country is just pure fucked.  I seriously don't see how he hasn't murdered that kunt yet.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: ThisisOverload on July 08, 2022, 05:12:07 PM
What’s the issue?  Rules are rules, even though they weren’t caught for years.

Anyways, I think it’s great ... cars & garages should be kept in the back of the lot, as they are in other civilized cities.  If you got a problem with that, move to the suburbs

I've worked in residential land development for a long time in 17 different states.

The majority of development codes have the setback for the garage further forward than the house setback by 10-feet. It all depends on the zoning. Even the multi-million dollar houses are like this.

Some older parts of town will grandfather the garage setbacks just to keep consistency, but newly developed areas have changed.

So, the days of building garages in the back of the lot have gone the way of the dodo a very long time ago.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: ThisisOverload on July 08, 2022, 05:22:58 PM
This happened with my brother on the east coast.  so not just a california thing. Apparently the person that owned the house before him never used their own driveway and allowed the neighbor to use it for years even though it's not her property.  So when my brother took ownership of the home she refused to stop parking on his driveway.  She even hired a lawyer and went to court and won.  WTF!  He buys a house and can't park on his own driveway when the neighbor has rights to it?

Property rights are weird.

My younger brother bought an old house in a rural area.

When they were rebuilding the fence around the property, they noticed the fence was built 7-feet inside their property. When they tried to move the fence to the original property line, the neighbor hired a lawyer and went to court.

My brother lost and they re-titled his lot to exclude that 7-foot strip.

It's a weird situation.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Tapeworm on July 08, 2022, 06:13:55 PM
The courts fucked him good.  He has no right to use his own driveway and he had to pay her legal fees.  The judicial system in this country is just pure fucked.  I seriously don't see how he hasn't murdered that kunt yet.

This can't be the whole story. I'm no Harley Brite but surely there's a legal basis. Not just "The previous owner always let me park there."

Like is the driveway over the property line or something?

Fuck living near people. Having neighbors sucks. Move rural, guys. It's worth the extra fuel cost.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 08, 2022, 09:03:20 PM
This can't be the whole story. I'm no Harley Brite but surely there's a legal basis. Not just "The previous owner always let me park there."

Like is the driveway over the property line or something?

Fuck living near people. Having neighbors sucks. Move rural, guys. It's worth the extra fuel cost.

Somehow because she used that land for so many years. She maintained the right to use it. It’s mind boggling to think about these dumb ass laws.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Dave D on July 08, 2022, 09:28:55 PM
Somehow because she used that land for so many years. She maintained the right to use it. It’s mind boggling to think about these dumb ass laws.


I’ve always been a fan of my property my choice.

He should tear the driveway out and build a swallow habitat.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: ThisisOverload on July 09, 2022, 03:36:18 PM
Somehow because she used that land for so many years. She maintained the right to use it. It’s mind boggling to think about these dumb ass laws.

It happens all the time.

Just wait until you get into a situation where squatters move into your home/property. There is a time period you have to formally evict them before they have a right to be there. Happens with rental properties all the time.

Squatters' rights vary state to state, but when someone is using your property for a certain amount of time, they do have rights to it.

I've seen a case where a person had to pay a maintenance fee to his neighbor because the fence was 1-foot on his property. His neighbors had maintained and improved the landscaping to that 1-foot strip over a period of 15 years.

Another case an old man allowed a couple to setup a trailer on his property for like 20 years and when he went to try and remove them, the County granted the people rights to stay on that section of land. So, he couldn't sell it because that section of land became a shared access easement, and there was no way to access his tract anymore.

This is why you never let anyone use your property for any reason.
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Rambone on July 09, 2022, 06:25:11 PM
Must be a typo. Should be Joey and Ed Craine
Title: Re: San Francisco Couple Threatened With Fine For Parking On Their Own Driveway
Post by: Tapeworm on July 10, 2022, 12:34:28 AM
Somehow because she used that land for so many years. She maintained the right to use it. It’s mind boggling to think about these dumb ass laws.

Crazy people. Who goes to court so they can park in someone else's driveway?

Humans are cunts. 200 yards is a minimum distance. Move rural.

If he's barred from removing the driveway to make way for a giant cactus garden hopefully he at least retains the right to store his collection of nails anywhere he wants.