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So I'm going to buy a machine for my home gym. What's your favourite? I've always used lying but seated I started to use in the gym..definitely more comfortable but results are what counts.
Only experienced lifters need answer
Thanks.
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Lying curls seem to have a better range of motion in my opinion
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There are numerous articles on the web regarding this topic.
Search: seated leg curl or lying leg curl
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I remember some dude complaining to Kev Levorne in some vid that they had to travel across town on certain days of the week
specifically because Kev wanted to use a seated leg curl at another gym
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There are numerous articles on the web regarding this topic.
Search: seated leg curl or lying leg curl
Yeah there's studies on the Web & videos but I'm talking people's real life experiences here. This study..that study..load of fucking bollox.
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Yeah there's studies on the Web & videos but I'm talking people's real life experiences here. This study..that study..load of fucking bollox.
So, you want anecdotal experiences?
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So, you want anecdotal experiences?
What the fuck are you talking about? Man you're a jackass
I'm talking results more muscle over the whole muscle length. I feel seated more on my lower hammy area. Lying I feel it all the way to my tight ass.
Answer the question properly or fuck off my thread you jackass
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What the fuck are you talking about? Man you're a jackass
I'm talking results more muscle over the whole muscle length. I feel seated more on my lower hammy area. Lying I feel it all the way to my tight ass.
Answer the question properly or fuck off my thread you jackass
You just answered your own question, pencil dick.
No need to mention how tight your ass is, bro-homo.
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Lying curls seem to have a better range of motion in my opinion
I favor those as well over seated.
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try various machines of both kind and see which feels the best before you buy.
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lying - 44:10
seated - 49:01
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I have a lying one, only reason being it has a leg extension in the same unit.
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Lying is superior for ROM but it has to have the arch in centre. Only word of warning is for home gym watch your shins. Cut the absolute fuck out of mine slumping on it after squats etc or just not paying attn.
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Both are useless because they target only part of the hamstrings, and do so in isolation from the gluteus. Do Romanian Deadlifts and save your money.
https://musclemonsters.com/blogs/blog/romanian-deadlift-stop-ignoring-this-powerful-hamstring-builder (https://musclemonsters.com/blogs/blog/romanian-deadlift-stop-ignoring-this-powerful-hamstring-builder)
(https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/0x0/0/a/e1078aa94c86e7dc10f5be5be738f611189708f0e3e3e5669fed4061d9eb36/romanian-deadlift-500x294.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.steroidsforsale.biz%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fromanian-deadlift-500x294.jpg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0)
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CfXfSnSv4m3/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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Lying curls seem to have a better range of motion in my opinion
If you have seen his legs. I would ignore this comment or do the opposite.
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Both are useless because they target only part of the hamstrings, and do so in isolation from the gluteus. Do Romanian Deadlifts and save your money.
https://musclemonsters.com/blogs/blog/romanian-deadlift-stop-ignoring-this-powerful-hamstring-builder (https://musclemonsters.com/blogs/blog/romanian-deadlift-stop-ignoring-this-powerful-hamstring-builder)
(https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/0x0/0/a/e1078aa94c86e7dc10f5be5be738f611189708f0e3e3e5669fed4061d9eb36/romanian-deadlift-500x294.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.steroidsforsale.biz%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fromanian-deadlift-500x294.jpg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0)
I do like these & alternate with Dumbbells but I do think you need some kind of curl variation in the mix. Mind you lunges are effective too for both quads & hammies.
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lying - 44:10
seated - 49:01
Thanks...Kevin is a great guy
He definitely has strength
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I hate the seated ones, they just don't feel right, but that seems to be all you see in gyms these days. I guess the lying ones take up too much room maybe.
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While its not a 'top of the line' piece of equipment, the bench I bought pre-RONA works pretty well. (Pretty solid).
I was trying to save space as I only have 1-garage stall dedicated to my home gym.
So with this bench, it will incline, decline, and the leg-curl/leg-ext piece comes off, and I also have the preacher attachment for it.
(Which is pretty large/solid).
Decent enough for 150.00 for all of it... (Bench, preacher, leg attachment).
Once RONA hit they were selling them for like 800.00.
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From what I’ve read they reckon only the seated version works both the long and short head but most home seated leg curls would be shit unless buying a top end commercial machine even those vary the hammer strength one at current gym is infinitely times better thst the technogym shite at old gym. At home I’d get lying that doubles as a leg ext and pair the lying curls with stiff leg deads
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Lying curls seem to have a better range of motion in my opinion
yes your hanging hams are evidence they work
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I like the seated one more. Some seated ones really lock you in and you don't have expend any energy to stabilize the pelvis. Theoretically the seated might be superior due to what Henda said but also due to the seated stretching you hamstrings more. There is evidence that working a muscle in the lengthened range causes more hypertrophy than working in any shortened range. I'm not sure about the lying having a longer range of motion, feels the opposite to me.
Of course I do both, even if just a set of each. Then add a set of stiff leg deads or Romanians and you worked all the angles.
There's this silly brand where the seat moves up and down as you curl or press orr whatever, I forget the brand? But their seated curl locks you in so tight around your knees/pelvis - feels great.
Edit. Hoist brand. Anyone tried it?
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I like the seated one more. Some seated ones really lock you in and you don't have expend any energy to stabilize the pelvis. Theoretically the seated might be superior due to what Henda said but also due to the seated stretching you hamstrings more. There is evidence that working a muscle in the lengthened range causes more hypertrophy than working in any shortened range. I'm not sure about the lying having a longer range of motion, feels the opposite to me.
Of course I do both, even if just a set of each. Then add a set of stiff leg deads or Romanians and you worked all the angles.
There's this silly brand where the seat moves up and down as you curl or press orr whatever, I forget the brand? But their seated curl locks you in so tight around your knees/pelvis - feels great
I believe you are talking about HOIST ROC-IT machines.....they suck !!
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I believe you are talking about HOIST ROC-IT machines.....they suck !!
Yes. Have you tried the seated leg curl? The machines are gimmicky I agree. But a lot of seated curls make you feel much less stable. I really like the way you can lock the pad under your knees real tight. I sometimes use Hammer seated and it feel like you're moving around a lot, just feels less stable. Here all energy goes into contracting the hams, almost feels dangerous how hard you can contract the hams.
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Yes. Have you tried the seated leg curl? The machines are gimmicky I agree. But a lot of seated curls make you feel much less stable. I really like the way you can lock the pad under your knees real tight. I sometimes use Hammer seated and it feel like you're moving around a lot, just feels less stable. Here all energy goes into contracting the hams, almost feels dangerous how hard you can contract the hams.
There`s only two gym s in my town both on college campuses.....one of them has the Hoist machines and is cheap to join for a year,the other gym now allows only students to work out there.....I drive 100 miles to do legs in another town.
I hope that answers your question about these pieces of complete total shit machines Hoist Fitness. :D
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There`s only two gym s in my town both on college campuses.....one of them has the Hoist machines and is cheap to join for a year,the other gym now allows only students to work out there.....I drive 100 miles to do legs in another town.
I hope that answers your question about these pieces of complete total shit machines Hoist Fitness. :D
Not really :D I wanted to know if and how you liked this specific piece, if you liked the "locked in" feeling I was talking about :D
You really do expend a lot of energy just stabilizing on the lying leg curl :D
There are huge differences in feel between same type of pieces from different manufacturers. The dream would be to be wealthy enough to design a whole homegym with all your favorite pieces from different manufacturers. Perhaps even have some aspects of different pieces customized for you :D Jordan Peters is doing something like that for his homegym.
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Both are useless because they target only part of the hamstrings, and do so in isolation from the gluteus. Do Romanian Deadlifts and save your money.
https://musclemonsters.com/blogs/blog/romanian-deadlift-stop-ignoring-this-powerful-hamstring-builder (https://musclemonsters.com/blogs/blog/romanian-deadlift-stop-ignoring-this-powerful-hamstring-builder)
(https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/0x0/0/a/e1078aa94c86e7dc10f5be5be738f611189708f0e3e3e5669fed4061d9eb36/romanian-deadlift-500x294.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.steroidsforsale.biz%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fromanian-deadlift-500x294.jpg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0)
Ever hear of supersets? Just keeo dumbells beside machine do db sldl after...
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Always got the best results when i was doing good mornings and deadlifts.
To answer the question, the lying leg curl seems to work the best for me.
Also, at one gym there was a standing leg curl that had this padded attachment that switched from left to right with a pin. I could get insane pumps with that machine. Haven't seen one if a while.
The seated ones are terrible for your knees if you use too much weight. My orthopedic surgeon told me to never do them after i had knee surgery.
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Not really :D I wanted to know if and how you liked this specific piece, if you liked the "locked in" feeling I was talking about :D
You really do expend a lot of energy just stabilizing on the lying leg curl :D
There are huge differences in feel between same type of pieces from different manufacturers. The dream would be to be wealthy enough to design a whole homegym with all your favorite pieces from different manufacturers. Perhaps even have some aspects of different pieces customized for you :D Jordan Peters is doing something like that for his homegym.
The Cybex seated leg curls locks you in place very tightly,and doesn`t rock while you use it so IMO it`s better.
I could join the gym with the Hoist stuff for 35.00 more and get 6 months and it`s close by.
I pay 35.00 a month to drive round trip 100 miles just to train legs ,so that shows how much I dislike Hoist Rok-It....IMO they suck balls.
I still don`t have access to a hack machine or a lying leg curls at my new gym but the machines are stable and don`t hop all over the place while using them.....whoever designed Hoist Rok-It never trained seriously a day in their life.
I`m looking for gains,not gimmicks.
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Always got the best results when i was doing good mornings and deadlifts.
To answer the question, the lying leg curl seems to work the best for me.
Also, at one gym there was a standing leg curl that had this padded attachment that switched from left to right with a pin. I could get insane pumps with that machine. Haven't seen one if a while.
The seated ones are terrible for your knees if you use too much weight. My orthopedic surgeon told me to never do them after i had knee surgery.
These used to be a staple in most gyms. Where the fuck have they gone? Those are probably my favorite form of leg curls.
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I did a lot of leg curls both seated and lying and my doctor seems to think that it's the main reason I snap a hamstring every time I sprint.
I think like another one said earlier, deads and good mornings are better to maintain balance troughout the whole hamstrings.
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These used to be a staple in most gyms. Where the fuck have they gone? Those are probably my favorite form of leg curls.
Some of these internet biomechanics gurus say the standing leg curl is essentially the same as a lying leg curl biomechanically, except with even less stability for the hip. Though I like them for "pumps" at least. Thought I tore my hamstring straight off the bone a few months back, heard a snapping sound and the weight crashed down. Turns out it was just a strain but since then I've been wary of loading heavy (say less than 10 reps) on that machine.
Good mornings are great. But how often do you see guys doing them? I rarely ever see anyone doing them, it's one of those "dangerous for your back" exercises. I use to do them up to 3 times per week "heavy" and I have the ugly fatty lump on my spine to prove it. Great exercise for the lumbars and hams without as much "nervous exhaustion" as deadlifts.
One personal observation has been that I could hardly make any strength progression over many years on the lying leg curl, despite putting a ton of effort into them. Sure the rest of the ham curls didn't get much stronger either but the lying was extra stubborn.
I pay 35.00 a month to drive round trip 100 miles just to train legs ,so that shows how much I dislike Hoist Rok-It....IMO they suck balls.
I didn't like any of their other pieces and even the leg curl feels like something not designed for hardcore training. Most of the commersial brands here are shitty like that. Even the cable cross stations, it's like they are designed to feel soft on you in some way. I did see Palumbo hyping up one of their machines and he caught some flack for that, but he thought the "feel" was amazing :D
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I did a lot of leg curls both seated and lying and my doctor seems to think that it's the main reason I snap a hamstring every time I sprint.
Padding in most of these machines prevent you from curling your leg as far as it would originally go.
Typically leaving the uppermost part unaffected. That is where you usually have tears while sprinting.
One of the many possible reasons of course.
Resistance band holds give me great pump. Find a optimal lengt, curl your heels to your glutes and try to hold a while. Like 15sec. Most of us cannot hold this curl even without a band and not cramp up.
Not cramping is a first singn of that ham working better.
Bodybuilding benefit is better functioning muscle and a peak contraction like no other.
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Good mornings are great. But how often do you see guys doing them? I rarely ever see anyone doing them, it's one of those "dangerous for your back" exercises. I use to do them up to 3 times per week "heavy" and I have the ugly fatty lump on my spine to prove it. Great exercise for the lumbars and hams without as much "nervous exhaustion" as deadlifts.
In a sports athletic facility, you see them a lot. They have kind of lost their usage due to many people doing them wrong and/or too heavy, so people classify them as dangerous. A good stiff deadlift variation is the same thing more or less. But i can tell you, once you have full command of your hams and can really target them while doing good mornings, they are a game changer.
I don't deadlift much anymore, but i still do GM's often. More as a warmup than an exercise. Just learn to do them with 185-205 pounds and do them smoothly. Slow and controlled, gentle rocking back the fourth, don't try to strain. My hams get so freaking sore from them. To be honest i haven't used leg curl machines much, but they are good to finish off a workout. My hamstrings are like steel cables.
When i was heavy into Power lifting, all the strong squatters and dead lifters did a lot of GM's and glute-ham raises. Once i started doing them my squat went up like 90 pounds in a couple months.
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I will never understand seated as far as sitting on the muscle you are trying to work... I like the single leg standing cybex plate loaded one.
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Some people have mentioned good mornings, I find them really awkward. Bending forward with a bar on your upper back / Trap area is just not comfortable. Tried a foam roller ..etc but I find the bar rolls forward or the pad turns.
Seems more sensible to have the bar in the stiff legged deadlift position because you're essentially pretty much doing the same movement..Bending forward
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In a sports athletic facility, you see them a lot. They have kind of lost their usage due to many people doing them wrong and/or too heavy, so people classify them as dangerous. A good stiff deadlift variation is the same thing more or less. But i can tell you, once you have full command of your hams and can really target them while doing good mornings, they are a game changer.
I don't deadlift much anymore, but i still do GM's often. More as a warmup than an exercise. Just learn to do them with 185-205 pounds and do them smoothly. Slow and controlled, gentle rocking back the fourth, don't try to strain. My hams get so freaking sore from them. To be honest i haven't used leg curl machines much, but they are good to finish off a workout. My hamstrings are like steel cables.
When i was heavy into Power lifting, all the strong squatters and dead lifters did a lot of GM's and glute-ham raises. Once i started doing them my squat went up like 90 pounds in a couple months.
We have a lot of PL's in our gym, we all do Good-Mornings still. When done correctly they are not dangerous. (Like any exercise).
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These used to be a staple in most gyms. Where the fuck have they gone? Those are probably my favorite form of leg curls.
X 2..... really a different feel.....quite isolated and great peak contraction... but hard to find unless you trained in one of my old gyms which would update equipment every 6-8 months it seemed....great place to train.
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Some people have mentioned good mornings, I find them really awkward. Bending forward with a bar on your upper back / Trap area is just not comfortable. Tried a foam roller ..etc but I find the bar rolls forward or the pad turns.
Seems more sensible to have the bar in the stiff legged deadlift position because you're essentially pretty much doing the same movement..Bending forward
Some use a pussy pad but it doesn't work well as you said. I just trained through the discomfort and now I have a large fat pad on the area of the spine where the bar sits.
Something about also gripping a weight while essentially doing the same movement pattern makes deads more exhausting IME. I could tolerate higher frequency, but then again I sometimes did 3 heavy deadlift workouts in the same week, just varying the types and ranges of motion. You can get used to a lot at least for a period of time or until your onnective tissue wears down completely :D
I wish I had chains or these types of straps on my powerrack so I could do them like this. Freaking beautiful :D
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Chbcg9mgL4b/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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I didn't like any of their other pieces and even the leg curl feels like something not designed for hardcore training. Most of the commersial brands here are shitty like that. Even the cable cross stations, it's like they are designed to feel soft on you in some way. I did see Palumbo hyping up one of their machines and he caught some flack for that, but he thought the "feel" was amazing :D
Van,right now I`m training at home except for the aforementioned leg days at the new gym I`ve joined.
Now I`ve been training a long long time and I know how to establish a mind/muscle connection so I will get a good pump and feel the targeted muscle group working/responding.
What I have come to realize is that I do not need machines at all.... what so ever !!
I thought about it and I honestly only feel pulldowns in my lats once in a while.......same as triceps pressdowns, which I feel are ridiculously over rated and done incorrectly more than they are done correctly,flat bench dumbell flyes simply crush cable crossovers..... crossovers seem wimpy and girly by comparison,they are easy that`s why every noob does them,either way too light, or stupidly too heavy almost like doing a standing bench press.....I used to love cable rows but have no clue as to why because I very seldomn ever felt them in my lats.......I did "feel" all these machines at times, but not always at every workout..... but as the years went by I realized I only used them cuz people and magazines said I should use them, and all the bodybuilders used them, and also to alleviate boredom,but fuck boredom if you are using something that is doing you no good and/or just wasting your energy,and more importantly aren`t progressing from..
In a nutshell,I get far more soreness,and better pumps training at home doing heavy basic stuff and high intesnsity stuff with basically just free weights.
Now I`m not saying this applies to everyone here but I think we all should stop and ask ourselves if pressdowns are better than skullcrushers or cambered bar french presses......are cable pussovers as good as heavy flyes, etc. etc. and most Hammer Machines suck cock too......5 plates a side for chest always done incorrectly just to impress someone.
All I was missing was leg machines,hence why I joined a brand new gym and I`m making great gains and on a pretty steady basis.
FUCK MACHINES.....most of them anyway.....not ALL of them.....THINK about it.....some have merit others are done cuz Arnold did them and we think we should also.
Just my thoughts.
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Some people have mentioned good mornings, I find them really awkward. Bending forward with a bar on your upper back / Trap area is just not comfortable. Tried a foam roller ..etc but I find the bar rolls forward or the pad turns.
Seems more sensible to have the bar in the stiff legged deadlift position because you're essentially pretty much doing the same movement..Bending forward
don't think of it as bending forward, but rather bringing your hips back as if to touch the wall behind you and then forward again .. With your back arched and your knees straight, the movement will take care of itself.
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I will never understand seated as far as sitting on the muscle you are trying to work... I like the single leg standing cybex plate loaded one.
This is the thing I dislike about seated as well.
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don't think of it as bending forward, but rather bringing your hips back as if to touch the wall behind you and then forward again .. With your back arched and your knees straight, the movement will take care of itself.
Yeah.. not saying it´s a bad exercise but as i wrote i hate the bar rolling, just feels bad for me.
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FUCK MACHINES.....most of them anyway.....not ALL of them.....THINK about it.....some have merit others are done cuz Arnold did them and we think we should also.
Just my thoughts.
I'm not a purist either way. Some machines feel invaluable depending on why you're training. I always got a kick out of pros' training articles in the mags and how many of them said they believed in free weights only and then you looked at the article and it's 90% machines. Smith machine, low pulley rows, leg press, leg extention, leg curls, triceps pulley pushdowns, cable curls, calf machines etc. Like what the hell were they talking about lol? I remember Levrone was one and there were tons of others.
That said, during the time I've been posting here over so many years, 90% of my training has been deadlifts, good mornings, squats. The gym has a powerlifting platform, a powerrack from 70s, numerous top of the line bars and a ton of Eleiko plates. I was almost satisfied with just that. A few 70s or 80s machines like lying leg curl and calf machines and pulley stations. I just want to feel some weight, fuck balanced bodybuilding lol. But I often did miss some nice machines for "touchup" training, rehab/prehab, bodybuilding type stuff. So periodically I trained maybe once a week at a secondary "bodybuilding gym." Seriously, I've gone months doing nothing but deadlifts and good mornings with a little squats plus maybe 1 or 2 small assistance exercises thrown in every other week. Who trains like this lol? What's it called? Fuck, doesn't make much of difference in my physique anyway with my genes. Past few years I had some illnesses and injuries so I was more at the bodybuilding gym but it's not as satisfying as pulling some damn weight. ;)
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Some people have mentioned good mornings, I find them really awkward. Bending forward with a bar on your upper back / Trap area is just not comfortable. Tried a foam roller ..etc but I find the bar rolls forward or the pad turns.
Seems more sensible to have the bar in the stiff legged deadlift position because you're essentially pretty much doing the same movement..Bending forward
Never liked the risk/reward ratio of Good Mornings.
I’ve found reverse hypertensions a safe effective alternative for lower back strengthening.
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kneeling leg curl
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kneeling leg curl
Looking at that pic, hard not to think of Vince B.😂
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Looking at that pic, hard not to think of Vince B.😂
;D
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:D
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I'm not a purist either way. Some machines feel invaluable depending on why you're training. I always got a kick out of pros' training articles in the mags and how many of them said they believed in free weights only and then you looked at the article and it's 90% machines. Smith machine, low pulley rows, leg press, leg extention, leg curls, triceps pulley pushdowns, cable curls, calf machines etc. Like what the hell were they talking about lol? I remember Levrone was one and there were tons of others.
That said, during the time I've been posting here over so many years, 90% of my training has been deadlifts, good mornings, squats. The gym has a powerlifting platform, a powerrack from 70s, numerous top of the line bars and a ton of Eleiko plates. I was almost satisfied with just that. A few 70s or 80s machines like lying leg curl and calf machines and pulley stations. I just want to feel some weight, fuck balanced bodybuilding lol. But I often did miss some nice machines for "touchup" training, rehab/prehab, bodybuilding type stuff. So periodically I trained maybe once a week at a secondary "bodybuilding gym." Seriously, I've gone months doing nothing but deadlifts and good mornings with a little squats plus maybe 1 or 2 small assistance exercises thrown in every other week. Who trains like this lol? What's it called? Fuck, doesn't make much of difference in my physique anyway with my genes. Past few years I had some illnesses and injuries so I was more at the bodybuilding gym but it's not as satisfying as pulling some damn weight. ;)
Great info. I also love heavy barbell training, always have. I do "get" the machine thing as one ages, injuries, or even for some finishing/hypertrophy stuff.
Not many people are getting big/strong using single-joint cables alone, sorry.
The other thing for "all machines" is you are spending the entire workout sitting on your butt. Dont get me wrong, there are some amazing machines, and I love many of them.
I just think, most bang for the buck, heavy barbell, multi-joint movements. To each his own though for those who enjoy mostly machines, that is the way you should train, as youll put the most into it.
Do what you love doing...
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Machines have their place for sure. There are several Hammer Strength row variations that i really enjoy. Cable machines are great for just about everything. There is a chest press machine that i do all the time to finish off my pecs. It has a nice plane of motion.
But for me it's all about DB's. I use them for just about everything. Just the freedom of motion for me makes them a great option.
Obviously for legs i use a lot of BB front squats and lunges.
But if there is a way to do an exercise with DB's, that's what i do.
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Yes. Have you tried the seated leg curl? The machines are gimmicky I agree. But a lot of seated curls make you feel much less stable. I really like the way you can lock the pad under your knees real tight. I sometimes use Hammer seated and it feel like you're moving around a lot, just feels less stable. Here all energy goes into contracting the hams, almost feels dangerous how hard you can contract the hams.
Our gym has 2 hammer seated curls the plate load one is shit doesent have the bit to lock down on the upper thigh feel it hard to keep hips down with heavier weight but the pin load one does have the lock down but and is so much better. Hate seated leg curls thst don’t have it
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On the subject of shit gym machine brands I found the techno gym gear at last gym to be absolute dogshit. The hack squat was awkward as fuck especially at the bottom of the motion
Leg press bottoms out before hit full depth. Smith machine frame built with 4 inch thick tube yet the bar itself was the flimsiest piece of shit ever with plastic ends where the plate goes. A few of the machines were good but most were awkward feeling pieces of absolute shit
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standing single leg curls for the win, you can really isolate the muscle.
Only problem I have with the one at the gym is that I can rep out with a full stack no issues.
Im going to have to work out how to add weight to the stack
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standing single leg curls for the win, you can really isolate the muscle.
Only problem I have with the one at the gym is that I can rep out with a full stack no issues.
Im going to have to work out how to add weight to the stack
Those gym pins look decent mate if they fit the stack around the shroud ect
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kneeling leg curl
The gym at the local university has one of these. I like it but it’s just a pretty big/heavy machine for such a specific single-joint motion / relatively light resistance. Takes up a ton of floor space.
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Those gym pins look decent mate if they fit the stack around the shroud ect
ta pal, its an open weight stack, should be able to add an extra plate to the stack with another pin
like this but there is only 45 kilo on the fucking thing
(https://watsongym.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/IMG_4273.jpg)
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ta pal, its an open weight stack, should be able to add an extra plate to the stack with another pin
like this but there is only 45 kilo on the fucking thing
(https://watsongym.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/IMG_4273.jpg)
Haha makes you question why they would design a machine thrn only our a 45 kg stack on
Should be easy with no shroud mate
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZKfJ6EPhdz/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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standing single leg curls for the win, you can really isolate the muscle.
Only problem I have with the one at the gym is that I can rep out with a full stack no issues.
Im going to have to work out how to add weight to the stack
So why is it better isolation than lying or sitting? Gravity? If you know what I mean, straight up and down movement. I mean people did these in the old days with iron boots.
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On the subject of shit gym machine brands I found the techno gym gear at last gym to be absolute dogshit. The hack squat was awkward as fuck especially at the bottom of the motion
Leg press bottoms out before hit full depth. Smith machine frame built with 4 inch thick tube yet the bar itself was the flimsiest piece of shit ever with plastic ends where the plate goes. A few of the machines were good but most were awkward feeling pieces of absolute shit
THE BEST hack squat machine I have used hands down is Arsenal strength
a lot of diff adjustments that enable proper angles - I train a lot of quad dominant bodybuilding high reps style
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So why is it better isolation than lying or sitting? Gravity? If you know what I mean, straight up and down movement. I mean people did these in the old days with iron boots.
I just feel the muscle more doing one leg at a time, I feel lying down with both legs aggravates my low back
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Prefer seated, lying puts strain on my lower back.
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So why is it better isolation than lying or sitting? Gravity? If you know what I mean, straight up and down movement. I mean people did these in the old days with iron boots.
Biomechanics.
Certain angles and planes of motion just target certain areas more.
That doesn't mean you will see more gains, but you will feel it more.
Just like placing bands behind your knees and attaching them in front of you. It makes doing squats completely different. It's more for balance and physical therapy, but you will be sore in areas you never knew existed.
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Biomechanics.
Certain angles and planes of motion just target certain areas more.
That doesn't mean you will see more gains, but you will feel it more.
Just like placing bands behind your knees and attaching them in front of you. It makes doing squats completely different. It's more for balance and physical therapy, but you will be sore in areas you never knew existed.
This is not new, hence why people use sissy squats and use a sissy squat bench in the gym. Personally I used no bench for them leaning back the old school way.
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This is not new, hence why people use sissy squats and use a sissy squat bench in the gym. Personally I used no bench for them leaning back the old school way.
Yeah i didn't say it was new.
Just giving an example of biomechanics and how getting a good "feeling" doesn't equal growth.
Sissy squats will make you sore in places you never knew about, but you won't get much out of them other than that.
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Biomechanics.
Certain angles and planes of motion just target certain areas more.
That doesn't mean you will see more gains, but you will feel it more.
Just like placing bands behind your knees and attaching them in front of you. It makes doing squats completely different. It's more for balance and physical therapy, but you will be sore in areas you never knew existed.
That looks like a accident waiting to happen for me ;D
....But I'm going to try it next leg day
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How about Portuguese Squats?
Very close to Spanish.
(https://www.countryreports.org/cdn_image.htp?type=image&format=exW_1200&file=images/maps/en/po/po-area&ext=gif)
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How about Portuguese Squats?
Very close to Spanish.
(https://www.countryreports.org/cdn_image.htp?type=image&format=exW_1200&file=images/maps/en/po/po-area&ext=gif)
I think they do those in Brazil
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Yeah i didn't say it was new.
Just giving an example of biomechanics and how getting a good "feeling" doesn't equal growth.
Sissy squats will make you sore in places you never knew about, but you won't get much out of them other than that.
There's this guy on IG who says not to go by sensation in the muscle necessarily and what you feel is not always what you think you're feeling. For example the abductor machine is not a glute exercise, the glute is not what you think you're feeling and what gets pumped. Sumo stance is not more glutes than narrow stance, like in deadlifts. And so on.
And he has a somehow different definition of mind-muscle connection.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChHqzcWuX8_/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
I think he's probably right and just because you feel the muscle "peak contracting" doesn't necessarily mean it's the best exercise for the job.
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Try These 4 Leg Curl Tricks
https://www.t-nation.com/training/tip-try-these-4-leg-curl-tricks/
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THE BEST hack squat machine I have used hands down is Arsenal strength
a lot of diff adjustments that enable proper angles - I train a lot of quad dominant bodybuilding high reps style
that looks like a great hack squat a lot of the arsenal strength stuff looks great think it may be a long while before any gym around here has it as I imagine it’s costly
We have a cybex hack at our gym it looks tiny compared to most hacks but feels ok nothing adjusts though
New gym has decent selection of leg training gear though
45 degree leg press
Horizontal pivot leg press
Horizontal unilateral pivot leg press
Hack squat
V squat
Belt squat
Pendulum squat
Pin load leg press
Pin load seated leg curl
Pin load lying leg curl
Pin load leg extension
Plate load standing leg curl
Plate load seated leg curl
Plate load lying leg curl
Plate load leg extention
Also has 3 plate load and 2 pin load calf machines
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that looks like a great hack squat a lot of the arsenal strength stuff looks great think it may be a long while before any gym around here has it as I imagine it’s costly
We have a cybex hack at our gym it looks tiny compared to most hacks but feels ok nothing adjusts though
New gym has decent selection of leg training gear though
45 degree leg press
Horizontal pivot leg press
Horizontal unilateral pivot leg press
Hack squat
V squat
Belt squat
Pendulum squat
Pin load leg press
Pin load seated leg curl
Pin load lying leg curl
Pin load leg extension
Plate load standing leg curl
Plate load seated leg curl
Plate load lying leg curl
Plate load leg extention
Also has 3 plate load and 2 pin load calf machines
the incline isnt that good
the higher the incline the harder it is
Why buy a machine like that then have to buy a pile of plates as well
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the incline isnt that good
the higher the incline the harder it is
Why buy a machine like that then have to buy a pile of plates as well
I never noticed the low incline looks a canny bit lower than the usual 45 degrees
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There's this guy on IG who says not to go by sensation in the muscle necessarily and what you feel is not always what you think you're feeling. For example the abductor machine is not a glute exercise, the glute is not what you think you're feeling and what gets pumped. Sumo stance is not more glutes than narrow stance, like in deadlifts. And so on.
And he has a somehow different definition of mind-muscle connection.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChHqzcWuX8_/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
I think he's probably right and just because you feel the muscle "peak contracting" doesn't necessarily mean it's the best exercise for the job.
I agree for sure.
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There's this guy on IG who says not to go by sensation in the muscle necessarily and what you feel is not always what you think you're feeling. For example the abductor machine is not a glute exercise, the glute is not what you think you're feeling and what gets pumped. Sumo stance is not more glutes than narrow stance, like in deadlifts. And so on.
And he has a somehow different definition of mind-muscle connection.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChHqzcWuX8_/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
I think he's probably right and just because you feel the muscle "peak contracting" doesn't necessarily mean it's the best exercise for the job.
he certainly needs to brush up on his public speaking, guy comes across as a fucking idiot
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While its not a 'top of the line' piece of equipment, the bench I bought pre-RONA works pretty well. (Pretty solid).
I was trying to save space as I only have 1-garage stall dedicated to my home gym.
So with this bench, it will incline, decline, and the leg-curl/leg-ext piece comes off, and I also have the preacher attachment for it.
(Which is pretty large/solid).
Decent enough for 150.00 for all of it... (Bench, preacher, leg attachment).
Once RONA hit they were selling them for like 800.00.
I got this same thing recently with the "Leg Developer" (nh) attachment, for the price it's pretty good. My usual issue with these attachments is the ROM sucks but on this one it's very good. My only issue is the bar the weight goes on is much narrower than the standard weight plate hole size so the weights bang around a bit.