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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Parker on April 26, 2006, 07:46:26 AM
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After seeing video clips of Flex from the 99 English Grand Prix, and pics of the 99 O, and reading the comment on how the quality in physiques has dropped.
I noticed that in the early to mid 90's since Shawn had a lock on second place in the O and was consistent with his conditioning, those who competed against him had to come in drier to even surpass him.
Because Flex and Kev competed in so many contests, those who competed against Flex knew that they couldn't out shape him, but came in slightly smaller. When Kev competed (although when he did the Arnold in the late 90's-00's, he came in incomplete) they knew he had the muscle mass so they came in fuller.
These three controlled the tempo, or set the standard in non O competition, so therefore more qaulity physiques were displayed by the other competitors. Because Ronnie has been so dominant and no other person (s) has really set the tempo for non O competitions, the physiques have slipped down considerably in terms of conditioning and shape (ex: guts, barrel physiques, no cuts)
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thanks ???
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After seeing video clips of Flex from the 99 English Grand Prix, and pics of the 99 O, and reading the comment on how the quality in physiques has dropped.
I noticed that in the early to mid 90's since Shawn had a lock on second place in the O and was consistent with his conditioning, those who competed against him had to come in drier to even surpass him.
Because Flex and Kev competed in so many contests, those who competed against Flex knew that they couldn't out shape him, but came in slightly smaller. When Kev competed (although when he did the Arnold in the late 90's-00's, he came in incomplete) they knew he had the muscle mass so they came in fuller.
These three controlled the tempo, or set the standard in non O competition, so therefore more qaulity physiques were displayed by the other competitors. Because Ronnie has been so dominant and no other person (s) has really set the tempo for non O competitions, the physiques have slipped down considerably in terms of conditioning and shape (ex: guts, barrel physiques, no cuts)
I think the drier physiques that we saw in the 90's had more to do with the more agressive use of diuretics during that period.
-sS
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Ah, massive amounts of diuretics?
Did you ever think about the introduction of GH, Insulin, Mass Monsters, IGF and basing progress based on the Scale instead of the mirror?
IE: Rhul, Nasser, Fux, Kovas, Dillett, Orville,
Back in the day, Size got you noticed but didn't really mean a whole lot. The reward was in Conditioning back then. It is sorely missed in our sport today across the board.
Out,
S. Ray
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Shawn, when they took back that Arnold trophy, what substance did you test positive for?
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Winny V ;D
A tear later in 91', I got one that looked just like it and $70,000.00 to boot! Doooo :o
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lol... i must admit, i expected a delete and not a response. I am impressed man.
And from the pic of mike ashley on Victor COnte's wall, I think it's "clear" he was not the total natural he claimed to be.
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shawn did you ever do as many drugs as the pros did now or did u honestly have good genes
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I wear 501 Jeans now so yes, I have good jeans ;D
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I wear 501 Jeans now so yes, I have good jeans ;D
Did you buy them on clearance? ;)
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Ray, Levrone, and Flex were definetely the beat setters back then. Best of the Best, just think if there would have been no Dorian Yates?
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Winny V ;D
A tear later in 91', I got one that looked just like it and $70,000.00 to boot! Doooo :o
Shawn, how did you feel about Mike Ashley winding up with the win, later? Did you honestly feel he was a lifetime natural as he claimed? Also, did you ever exchange insults with Mike, i.e. "you know you're on the sauce mike, shit I even know your source so don't be all about I'm natural, I'm natural... bitch ass nugga"?
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shawn did you ever do as many drugs as the pros did now or did u honestly have good genes
He is still alive, living well and he only has a natural gut not a GH gut.
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Shawn, how did you feel about Mike Ashley winding up with the win, later? Did you honestly feel he was a lifetime natural as he claimed? Also, did you ever exchange insults with Mike, i.e. "you know you're on the sauce mike, shit I even know your source so don't be all about I'm natural, I'm natural... bitch ass nugga"?
Seriously, if you hear Shawn speak, you know he's not capable of using the N-word.
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Seriously, if you hear Shawn speak, you know he's not capable of using the N-word.
BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHAHA That's exactly why I posted it that way! Dude, Shawn would need a voice over to insult anyone and not sound like a 13 year old white chick from Fresno.
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BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA That's exactly why I posted it that way! Dude, Shawn would need a voice over to insult anyone and not sound like a 13 year old white chick from Fresno.
Shawn makes you look like Shirley Temple ::)
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Shawn does speak like a girl from the Valley.
(http://www.driko.org/covers/sndtrck_valleygirl2.jpg)
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Shawn does speak like a girl from the Valley.
Shawn makes you look like veteran character actor Will Patton ::)
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Shawn makes you look like veteran character actor Will Patton ::)
I dwarf Shawn Ray.
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That pic of Shawn and his uncle is great. It looks like Shawn is saying, "Man I said we can't touch like that in public, wait till tonight, and thanks for the win I need the money."
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I dwarf Shawn Ray.
Everyone dwarfs Shawn. Shawn's a dwarf.
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Shawn makes you look like Shirley Temple ::)
Actually Shawn's a lot closer to Shirley Temple's height plus he sounds just like her.... bahahahahaha!
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Seriously if we had more dominant (consistent) players like the 90's, it would rejuvinate bodybuilding. Back in the mid-late 90's we knew Shawn, Flex, Kev and Dillett to a lesser degree would bring it, so we looked forward to the showdowns.
Now the only consistent competitor today is Dex, whose the Shawn Ray in terms of condition, and Dex doesn't even compete that much today.
Melvin is the today's Flex in terms of shape, which is phenomenal, with a better lat taper than Flex, and his posing is off the hook, but needs to get his conditioning down pat...it will come.
Johnnie Jackson, Dennis James, Branch Warren, are damn freaks, but no one has really has really broken out and presented awe inspiring physiques like the top three.
When I saw a pic of Flex Wheeler in an ad for the 1992 USA's, I wanted to lift to look like that.
Now what do you see today that could even remotely give inspiration to a new breed of muscleheads....
Ain't jack there...
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Actually Shawn's a lot closer to Shirley Temple's height plus he sounds just like her.... bahahahahaha!
I have heard him speak. He doesn't sound at all like Shirley Temple.
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Winny V ;D
really....
and they thought the drol, hemogenin, parabolan, primo , igf and al then chinese diruitics NOT on the banned lists were A-ok?
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Ah, massive amounts of diuretics?
Did you ever think about the introduction of GH, Insulin, Mass Monsters, IGF and basing progress based on the Scale instead of the mirror?
IE: Rhul, Nasser, Fux, Kovas, Dillett, Orville,
Back in the day, Size got you noticed but didn't really mean a whole lot. The reward was in Conditioning back then. It is sorely missed in our sport today across the board.
Out,
S. Ray
This is the kind of post Shawn should do more of, it's informative and let's us in on his way of thinking.
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It is interesting how many people want to take insulin to increase muscle mass (how, I have no idea). I would think roids would build just as much but without the added risk of taking insulin when you are not a diabetic.
You actually hear relatively few horror stories about insulin, but maybe most incidents aren't reported.
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I would just think that the risk on insulin shock and decrease in natural insulin production. I know there are risks with AAS and GH but I think those carry less risk and increase muscle mass in a better way without the guts.
Oh yeah, I mean that you hear few stories about insulin shock, but altering endogenous insulin production is obviously something you don't want to do.
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Ah, massive amounts of diuretics?
Did you ever think about the introduction of GH, Insulin, Mass Monsters, IGF and basing progress based on the Scale instead of the mirror?
IE: Rhul, Nasser, Fux, Kovas, Dillett, Orville,
Back in the day, Size got you noticed but didn't really mean a whole lot. The reward was in Conditioning back then. It is sorely missed in our sport today across the board.
Out,
S. Ray
sorry to tell you...ronnie has better conditioning than anyone ever has had. and dexter is right up there with him.
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Couldn't agree more.
I wish there were reliable studies about these drugs being used in the quantities pros use them in, but I get the feeling they wouldn't be ethical ;D
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Ah, are we talking the conditioning Ronnie of 1998?
Cause he ain't been seen in a loongggggggggggtime :'(
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'I wish there were reliable studies about these drugs being used in the quantities pros use them in, but I get the feeling they wouldn't be ethical'
Lucius, why don't you take a trip to some little third world hamlet and once there introduce the natives to massive amounts of 'sauce' with their chick peas. Hey, not ethical to you and me but the western world's pharmaceutical industry swears by it.
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sorry to tell you...ronnie has better conditioning than anyone ever has had. and dexter is right up there with him.
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You're delusional. For some fukked up reason you think all that blubber you're carrying is muscle. Your opinion is meaningless.
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Ah, are we talking the conditioning Ronnie of 1998?
Cause he ain't been seen in a loongggggggggggtime :'(
The sum of what he has is enough to beat everyone else---8X. And it is not like he hasn't been in condition.
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lock
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Shawn Ray, Flex was talking in his MD article about some of the most famous bodybuilders being gay. Who was the gay spanish bodybuilder? Was Flex including you in that list? Have you ever been to Titus' orgy parties? Ever inject into your weiner?
I know you will answer all of my questions and thank you in advance for you honesty.
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Shawn Ray, Flex was talking in his MD article about some of the most famous bodybuilders being gay. Who was the gay spanish bodybuilder? Was Flex including you in that list? Have you ever been to Titus' orgy parties? Ever inject into your weiner?
I know you will answer all of my questions and thank you in advance for you honesty.
LOL !!
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Shawn Ray, Flex was talking in his MD article about some of the most famous bodybuilders being gay. Who was the gay spanish bodybuilder? Was Flex including you in that list? Have you ever been to Titus' orgy parties? Ever inject into your weiner?
I know you will answer all of my questions and thank you in advance for you honesty.
Has to be Don Long,
All the clues point to it,
Gay Mustache, Gay Name, and Gay Mustache
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'I wish there were reliable studies about these drugs being used in the quantities pros use them in, but I get the feeling they wouldn't be ethical'
Lucius, why don't you take a trip to some little third world hamlet and once there introduce the natives to massive amounts of 'sauce' with their chick peas. Hey, not ethical to you and me but the western world's pharmaceutical industry swears by it.
Great point. They might worship me as a god and probably wouldn't question what I was doing. ;D
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Ah, are we talking the conditioning Ronnie of 1998?
Cause he ain't been seen in a loongggggggggggtime :'(
you thinking gut, not conditioning. even in water logged 04 ronnie was more diced than u ever were in ur career
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I wear 501 Jeans now so yes, I have good jeans ;D
501's ???
you're too "husky"
;D
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Has to be Don Long,
All the clues point to it,
Gay Mustache, Gay Name, and Gay Mustache
whose wife was hot as hell, and then left his ass when he needed a kidney and to be put on dialysis
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You'd have to email Flex tofins out who he's talikng about. I dont know any GAY Spaniards?
Never inject in the weiner, why? ::)
Titus had Orgy Parties? :o
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm mmmmmmmmmmmm, it all makes sence now. ;D
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You'd have to email Flex tofins out who he's talikng about. I dont know any GAY Spaniards?
Never inject in the weiner, why? ::)
Titus had Orgy Parties? :o
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm mmmmmmmmmmmm, it all makes sence now. ;D
Gob Bless ya Brother Ray!