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I can't wait to see him perform at heavyweight. There's 3 fights I want to see him in. Stipe, Gane and Ngannou. As of now I haven't seen a more complete fighter with absurd fight IQ, limb length and general toughness and will to succeed in a fight.
My concerns with the extra weight are speed, quickness and cardio. The word is fight in March. The suggested opponent would be Curtis Blaydes or Ngannou. Not a fan of him fighting Ngannou first as a heavyweight but if he feels he's ready, who am I to say anything? I'm excited to see him fight.
Street fight Prime Tyson or Jones. I'm going Jones. Too many weapons and too smart.
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he hasnt stepped in the cage with Hankins
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Probably BHANKS.
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I can't wait to see him perform at heavyweight. There's 3 fights I want to see him in. Stipe, Gane and Ngannou. As of now I haven't seen a more complete fighter with absurd fight IQ, limb length and general toughness and will to succeed in a fight.
My concerns with the extra weight are speed, quickness and cardio. The word is fight in March. The suggested opponent would be Curtis Blaydes or Ngannou. Not a fan of him fighting Ngannou first as a heavyweight but if he feels he's ready, who am I to say anything? I'm excited to see him fight.
Street fight Prime Tyson or Jones. I'm going Jones. Too many weapons and too smart.
Jon Jones is the reason I got into watching MMA. He was amazing. Head and shoulders above everyone else. At one time. Coming up on 3 years out of the cage. Let's face it, there are many people who feel he lost his last two fights against Dom Reyes and Thiago Alves. I too am exited to see him fight but like a lot of other vets, the games rapid evolution has possibly caught up to him. I wouldn't dare put him in with Gane unless Gane becomes undisputed champion. Risk not worth the reward. I'd go straight to Ngannou for all the marbles. If he beats Francis, I'd try to do the Stipe fight then Gane. I don't think Stipe will ever fight again. He too is coming up on 2 years of inactivity. Dana has to do something about these heavyweights.
I agree with you in a Jones v Tyson street fight. I'll take Jones too.
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In a street fight, prime Tyson would break Jon’s face.
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they handicap fighters not allowing 12 to 6 elbow is a huge deal when facing wrestlers
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they handicap fighters not allowing 12 to 6 elbow is a huge deal when facing wrestlers
Tyson would land heavy shots standing up. Jones would never have a chance to throw those elbows.
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Tyson with 4 ounce MMA gloves or bare knuckles?
Bhankenstein would ragdoll both.
In their prime.
On a soft surface.
With a shoulder lock
And not quit on his stool.
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Jon Jones toughest foe is Jon Jones
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In a street fight, prime Tyson would break Jon’s face.
Dollars to doughnuts, if you asked Mike Tyson that very question, he'd tell you Jon Jones would win.
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I can't wait to see him perform at heavyweight. There's 3 fights I want to see him in. Stipe, Gane and Ngannou. As of now I haven't seen a more complete fighter with absurd fight IQ, limb length and general toughness and will to succeed in a fight.
My concerns with the extra weight are speed, quickness and cardio. The word is fight in March. The suggested opponent would be Curtis Blaydes or Ngannou. Not a fan of him fighting Ngannou first as a heavyweight but if he feels he's ready, who am I to say anything? I'm excited to see him fight.
Street fight Prime Tyson or Jones. I'm going Jones. Too many weapons and too smart.
He's a beast fighting guys much smaller and lighter than him, let's see what happens now that he's older and stepping in with the big fellas.
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At heavyweight he loses the massive size, reach, and power advantage he has always enjoyed. It won't be smooth.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again....There's not a single man alive in combat sports that would defeat Jones on Cocaine.
If Jon Jones does a few lines of Cocaine before stepping into any ring, no one beats him. No one comes close to beating him. I don't care the fighter or even style. The guy is a gift. He is dangerous everywhere. I love boxing and believe firmly that boxing is the best form of combat to know in order to protect yourself, but Jones has too many skills and would annihilate a boxer by introducing them to kryptonite via wrestling and ground game. Jones would elbow the fuck out of a boxer, muay thai fighter or kickboxer while on the ground. The fight would end.
Now, Jones without Cocaine can certainly be beaten, but it would take a lot.
In MMA, I think he's the best fighter of all time. When he gets to heavyweight, I think he will be fine. The X factor is whether some of those heavy punchers can land flush on Jones' chin. If they do, it could be lights out, but that's a big "if". Jones has fought heavy punchers before and knows how to evade extremely well. His stamina is ridiculous, his fight IQ is ridiculous, his abilities on the ground and in standup are ridiculous. He controls the distance incredibly well, cuts angles, knows how to use his jab, elbows, knees, kicks and can deliver devastating blows and submissions in the clinch, while having the capacity to take anyone to the ground and control fully. The biggest issues I see for Jones at heavyweight aren't his size, power, stamina or speed. I think I will keep an eye on the effects of age on him, as we all get defeated by father time. Separate from that, I wonder how well he would be able to take head strikes from these heavyweights. Granted, the only striker in heavyweight that I see posing a threat to truly connect on Jones is Ciryl Gane, but even then, Jones is no Derrick Lewis.
A prime Tyson was an animal and an absolute criminal that would have essentially bitten another's man's testicles to win a fight. Prime Tyson would get smoked in a ring by a prime Lenox Lewis every damn day of the week (Prime Lenox Lewis beats the fuck out of everyone in boxing, regardless of era in my humble opinion). Prime Tyson would also get outboxed by prime Holyfield. On the street, prime Tyson would probably kill both of them. Prime Tyson fighting prime Jones on the street, hard to tell who would win, but I'd lean on Jones. Tyson has NO ground game and Jones is a strong wrestler and is also prone to criminality. Jones would easily kill a man if he knew he could get away with it.
If Jones fights Ngannou in March, I'll definitely watch that fight!
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Needs more Turinabol , delts not capped enough...
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Will become the 5th UFC fighter and 4th champion to snap his leg in two.
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Jon Jones toughest foe is Jon Jones
lol
This is some truth.
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Jon Jones would single leg Tyson and pound his skull in
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Jon Jones toughest foe is Jon Jones
That and cocaine.
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all gut and chicken legs. if ufc fighters knew how to fight, they;d attack his midsection for 5 minutes straight there goes his first round and chicken legs. try a round house kick with noodle legs. anyway...
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Dollars to doughnuts, if you asked Mike Tyson that very question, he'd tell you Jon Jones would win.
Maybe the 2022 Tyson
But Not the 1986/1987 Tyson
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He sucks at lifting. Weak-ass pull ups, incredibly sloppy hammer curls, and a bunch of namby-pamby lightweight stuff. He's physically weak at 260.
Also, he arguably lost against Reyes.
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I think nganu will take jones head off his fucking shoulders jones was very unimpressive his past two fights and has not fought in nearly 3 years
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I guess USADA's too scared to test him. Afraid they'll get beat up like he beat up his wife. ???
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Jon jones is also a human scumbag who beats women
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Fuck all you Tyson doubters. Tyson would rip him a new asshole.
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Jones would be destroyed by martyn ford according to a bricklayer from Birmingham who's seen ford hit a bag and that's all the evidence he needs ford beats Jon Jones
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Andrew Tate would easily take him out with his eyes closed
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Definitely need him to fight.
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A prime Tyson was an animal and an absolute criminal that would have essentially bitten another's man's testicles to win a fight. Prime Tyson would get smoked in a ring by a prime Lenox Lewis every damn day of the week (Prime Lenox Lewis beats the fuck out of everyone in boxing, regardless of era in my humble opinion). Prime Tyson would also get outboxed by prime Holyfield. On the street, prime Tyson would probably kill both of them. Prime Tyson fighting prime Jones on the street, hard to tell who would win, but I'd lean on Jones. Tyson has NO ground game and Jones is a strong wrestler and is also prone to criminality. Jones would easily kill a man if he knew he could get away with it.
If Jones fights Ngannou in March, I'll definitely watch that fight!
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It was an exciting heavyweight era. I like Lewis too. Would have been great to see Lewis versus bowe.
https://thegruelingtruth.com/boxing/the-truth-behind-lennox-lewis-vs-riddick-bowe-and-why-it-never-happened/#:~:text=Bowe%20dominated%20the%20first%20round,off%2C%20giving%20Lewis%20the%20win! (https://thegruelingtruth.com/boxing/the-truth-behind-lennox-lewis-vs-riddick-bowe-and-why-it-never-happened/#:~:text=Bowe%20dominated%20the%20first%20round,off%2C%20giving%20Lewis%20the%20win!)
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In a street fight, Jon would probably get destroyed by a prime Kimbo Slice.
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In a street fight, Jon would probably get destroyed by a prime Kimbo Slice.
Bro, you're talking pretty reckless. Lol
As OneMoreRep said and I rubber stamp, because Jon's propensity for behavior outside of the law, in a street fight, he'd be lethal with his skillset.
He'd kill Kimbo and unless Tyson landed early, Jon would wrestler fuck him and make him tap. Or he could keep him at a distance and kick him into a win.
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Bro, you're talking pretty reckless. Lol
As OneMoreRep said and I rubber stamp, because Jon's propensity for behavior outside of the law, in a street fight, he'd be lethal with his skillset.
He'd kill Kimbo and unless Tyson landed early, Jon would wrestler fuck him and make him tap. Or he could keep him at a distance and kick him into a win.
In my opinion, Prime Kimbo is more athletic than Francis Ngannou. Kimbo would be a difficult man to wrestle
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Fighting that far above your natural bodyweight doesnt do you any favors most of the time
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Fighting that far above your natural bodyweight doesnt do you any favors most of the time
He used to walk around at 230lbs. So 250s is not that far from his natural weight.
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In my opinion, Prime Kimbo is more athletic than Francis Ngannou. Kimbo would be a difficult man to wrestle
Ngannou would have destroyed Kimbo. Kimbo was not that skilled. Ngannou is bigger, stronger and more skilled.
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Ngannou would have destroyed Kimbo. Kimbo was not that skilled. Ngannou is bigger, stronger and more skilled.
Kimbo on this day was 268LB. Very athletic.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2yksn?playlist=x533z
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If only the UFC would stop being such pussies about Cocaine use, it would be great!
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I think nganu will take jones head off his fucking shoulders jones was very unimpressive his past two fights and has not fought in nearly 3 years
This. People thinking Jones will pack on 50 pounds, not fight in 3 years and hold the same speed and technique he had against guys that were significantly smaller than him. Now he'll be 50 pounds heavier, 3 years older and being hit by guys 50 pounds heavier than his previous opponents. If he does great, awesome, but I feel like he's stepping into a whole new playground and there's some big ass bullies looking to stomp on his name.
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I bet his legs are still super skinny, he must look like a fucking Flamingo
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If only the UFC would stop being such pussies about Cocaine use, it would be great!
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I never understood dudes who wanted to fight when they got coked up. When I was college and used to dabble in doing that shit, it made me want to do more coke and talk to people. Never made me angry.
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I never understood dudes who wanted to fight when they got coked up. When I was college and used to dabble in doing that shit, it made me want to do more coke and talk to people.
Never made me angry.
Brother Iron, I think I can shed some light on this, bear with me as it's a bit boring.
Ever try stimulants like Ritalin or Adderall? Those stimulants are used to treat conditions like attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). The reason they work is because they increase 3 particular chemicals in your brain, those chemicals are Dopamine, Noradrenaline and Serotonin.
- Dopamine is directly involved in movement, memory, reward recognition, motivation, energy, attention, mood, learning and arousal.
- Noradrenaline increases arousal and alertness, promotes vigilance, enhances formation and retrieval of memory, and focuses attention. Noradrenaline also increases your heart rate and blood pressure.
- Serotonin influences learning, memory, happiness, modulates anxiety, regulates mood, decreases sadness as well as regulating body temperature, sleep, sexual behavior and hunger.
For someone that lacks attention, concentration and focus (someone with ADHD), you can then see why using a stimulant like Adderall would be HIGHLY beneficial. What if I tell you that Cocaine and Adderall share many of the same properties? Cocaine blocks the transporters for dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine, causing increases in extracellular levels of these neurotransmitters. This is why many people call Adderall - "Cocaine in a pill". The major difference is that I think Adderall (long acting formulation) is even more dangerous as it can last anywhere from 8-12 hours with sustained effects, whereby Cocaine will wear off after 1-3 hours.
So now, imagine a fighter who uses Cocaine before a fight and all of a sudden he experiences improvement to his alertness, attention, concentration, focus, energy levels, movement, motivation, and vigilance, while also having regulation of his mood that makes him less anxious and fearful. What kind of fighter would he now be? An amazing fighter.
I'm not promoting Cocaine use, but for some people with gifts (like Jones) it is a wonder drug.
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Brother Iron, I think I can shed some light on this, bear with me as it's a bit boring.
Ever try stimulants like Ritalin or Adderall? Those stimulants are used to treat conditions like attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). The reason they work is because they increase 3 particular chemicals in your brain, those chemicals are Dopamine, Noradrenaline and Serotonin.
- Dopamine is directly involved in movement, memory, reward recognition, motivation, energy, attention, mood, learning and arousal.
- Noradrenaline increases arousal and alertness, promotes vigilance, enhances formation and retrieval of memory, and focuses attention. Noradrenaline also increases your heart rate and blood pressure.
- Serotonin influences learning, memory, happiness, modulates anxiety, regulates mood, decreases sadness as well as regulating body temperature, sleep, sexual behavior and hunger.
For someone that lacks attention, concentration and focus (someone with ADHD), you can then see why using a stimulant like Adderall would be HIGHLY beneficial. What if I tell you that Cocaine and Adderall share many of the same properties? Cocaine blocks the transporters for dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine, causing increases in extracellular levels of these neurotransmitters. This is why many people call Adderall - "Cocaine in a pill". The major difference is that I think Adderall (long acting formulation) is even more dangerous as it can last anywhere from 8-12 hours with sustained effects, whereby Cocaine will wear off after 1-3 hours.
So now, imagine a fighter who uses Cocaine before a fight and all of a sudden he experiences improvement to his alertness, attention, concentration, focus, energy levels, movement, motivation, and vigilance, while also having regulation of his mood that makes him less anxious and fearful. What kind of fighter would he now be? An amazing fighter.
I'm not promoting Cocaine use, but for some people with gifts (like Jones) it is a wonder drug.
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While I see all of your points on the drugs and their effects (I’ve done plenty) I just didn’t know enough about boxing to realize how much the added focus would help.
I guess I was blurring the lines between what a trained fighter might get from it, and my douchebag buddies in college thinking it made them tough.
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While I see all of your points on the drugs and their effects (I’ve done plenty) I just didn’t know enough about boxing to realize how much the added focus would help.
I guess I was blurring the lines between what a trained fighter might get from it, and my douchebag buddies in college thinking it made them tough.
Oh dude, the added reactivity time when striking, attention to your opponent's tells (things like how they rotate hips prior to throwing certain punches or kicks), the reduction of the sensation of fear, the added energy levels, just to mention a few of them is what I mean when it comes to pumping Jones with Coke.
For regular people like us, it's a great party drug and would make you a stallion in bed with the ladies. For Jones, it makes him feel supernatural. I have many friends that used to use Cocaine when younger in copious amounts. The stories are insane man.
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Bro, you're talking pretty reckless. Lol
As OneMoreRep said and I rubber stamp, because Jon's propensity for behavior outside of the law, in a street fight, he'd be lethal with his skillset.
He'd kill Kimbo and unless Tyson landed early, Jon would wrestler fuck him and make him tap. Or he could keep him at a distance and kick him into a win.
Wiggs I agree jones would take Tyson down and would pound his skull in a lot of people on here do not understand how skilled and elite mma fighter is hell buster Douglas put an ass whipping on Tyson. And Tyson still makes excuses till this day about why he lost
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This. People thinking Jones will pack on 50 pounds, not fight in 3 years and hold the same speed and technique he had against guys that were significantly smaller than him. Now he'll be 50 pounds heavier, 3 years older and being hit by guys 50 pounds heavier than his previous opponents. If he does great, awesome, but I feel like he's stepping into a whole new playground and there's some big ass bullies looking to stomp on his name.
Exactly chaos and he barely won his last two fights 3 years off and jumping 50 lbs in weight is a lot and from what I have seen he is not muscular at all I think he should have at least one tune up fight before fighting nganou but the ufc has not had a good year Ppv sale wise I imagine they will try to make this fight happen first to cash in fast
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Jon Jones would single leg Tyson and pound his skull in
It’s the classic boxer against wrestler question. If it’s the the type of street fight where two guys just throw hands, clearly Tyson, but if it’s a matter of Jones getting the takedown without getting KOd, gotta give the advantage to the wrestler.
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I'd bet Alexander Karelin to put jones through the concrete
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I never understood dudes who wanted to fight when they got coked up. When I was college and used to dabble in doing that shit, it made me want to do more coke and talk to people. Never made me angry.
I alays thought MMA fighters were on Ecstasy the amoundt of hugging each other they did
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I'd bet Alexander Karelin to put jones through the concrete
Who?
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Who?
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I know who he is. This isn't Romans Greco-Roman wrestling, this is MMA and even if he was still young, He'd be soundly defeated.
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I'd bet Alexander Karelin to put jones through the concrete
Agree prime Karelin is the greatest wrestler of all time
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I know who he is. This isn't Romans Greco-Roman wrestling, this is MMA and even if he was still young, He'd be soundly defeated.
Haha yeh whatever
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Haha yeh whatever
Darren it is amazing that a lot of these guys think they know a lot about fighting and wrestling isn’t it
Karelin in his prime in ufc now would be a wrecking machine
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I've said it before and I'll say it again....There's not a single man alive in combat sports that would defeat Jones on Cocaine.
If Jon Jones does a few lines of Cocaine before stepping into any ring, no one beats him. No one comes close to beating him. I don't care the fighter or even style. The guy is a gift. He is dangerous everywhere. I love boxing and believe firmly that boxing is the best form of combat to know in order to protect yourself, but Jones has too many skills and would annihilate a boxer by introducing them to kryptonite via wrestling and ground game. Jones would elbow the fuck out of a boxer, muay thai fighter or kickboxer while on the ground. The fight would end.
Now, Jones without Cocaine can certainly be beaten, but it would take a lot.
In MMA, I think he's the best fighter of all time. When he gets to heavyweight, I think he will be fine. The X factor is whether some of those heavy punchers can land flush on Jones' chin. If they do, it could be lights out, but that's a big "if". Jones has fought heavy punchers before and knows how to evade extremely well. His stamina is ridiculous, his fight IQ is ridiculous, his abilities on the ground and in standup are ridiculous. He controls the distance incredibly well, cuts angles, knows how to use his jab, elbows, knees, kicks and can deliver devastating blows and submissions in the clinch, while having the capacity to take anyone to the ground and control fully. The biggest issues I see for Jones at heavyweight aren't his size, power, stamina or speed. I think I will keep an eye on the effects of age on him, as we all get defeated by father time. Separate from that, I wonder how well he would be able to take head strikes from these heavyweights. Granted, the only striker in heavyweight that I see posing a threat to truly connect on Jones is Ciryl Gane, but even then, Jones is no Derrick Lewis.
A prime Tyson was an animal and an absolute criminal that would have essentially bitten another's man's testicles to win a fight. Prime Tyson would get smoked in a ring by a prime Lenox Lewis every damn day of the week (Prime Lenox Lewis beats the fuck out of everyone in boxing, regardless of era in my humble opinion). Prime Tyson would also get outboxed by prime Holyfield. On the street, prime Tyson would probably kill both of them. Prime Tyson fighting prime Jones on the street, hard to tell who would win, but I'd lean on Jones. Tyson has NO ground game and Jones is a strong wrestler and is also prone to criminality. Jones would easily kill a man if he knew he could get away with it.
If Jones fights Ngannou in March, I'll definitely watch that fight!
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Good stuff. Agree with most of this. The Ngannou match would be awesome.
With the street fighting questions, they're generally so vague as to be meaningless. What do we even mean by a street fight? Are they sober? Is it in some packed night-club? Is it some sort of pre-arranged meet up where both just turn up in a field and anything goes? I'd say a cage fight is close enough to some pre-arranged, sober meet up on 'da streets', and yeah, Jones would likely take it in both those scenarios.
A lot of people also seem to discuss street fights from the perspective of being a doorman or something like that, where size and strength mean a hell of a lot when you're sober and dragging drunk guys out of bars. Really, though, the reality of them is they're a few seconds of sudden violence, where one person has enough of the other's shit and decides to throw some hands. From that perspective, a prime Tyson pretty much wins them all, haha. He'd be first to snap and start swinging some hooks, and if they land, you're done. And if you take him down, you're going to at least get a chunk bitten out of you before any choke holds and stuff like that become relevant.
Anyone watching the UFC tonight? I'm going to set an alarm for it. Hoping Paddy gets his stupid face smashed.
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This guy would drag Jones into deep water and strangle him
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I remember back in 2000, I watched Alexander Karelin on TV, he wrestled in the summer Olympics, and he got beat by an American named Gardner.
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I remember back in 2000, I watched Alexander Karelin on TV, he wrestled in the summer Olympics, and he got beat by an American named Gardner.
Surprised he never went into MMA.
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Surprised he never went into MMA.
Maybe he can't take a punch?
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I can't wait to see him perform at heavyweight. There's 3 fights I want to see him in. Stipe, Gane and Ngannou. As of now I haven't seen a more complete fighter with absurd fight IQ, limb length and general toughness and will to succeed in a fight.
My concerns with the extra weight are speed, quickness and cardio. The word is fight in March. The suggested opponent would be Curtis Blaydes or Ngannou. Not a fan of him fighting Ngannou first as a heavyweight but if he feels he's ready, who am I to say anything? I'm excited to see him fight.
Street fight Prime Tyson or Jones. I'm going Jones. Too many weapons and too smart.
He lost to a pregnant woman and coke.
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Gordon Ryan is a bjj God but rumours are he's not so keen on mma because he can't take a good shot?
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Gordon Ryan is a bjj God but rumours are he's not so keen on mma because he can't take a good shot?
Agreed. Don't know about the taking a shot angle, but agree that he might not be too keen on mma.
Met him many years ago in NYC while at the gym. He is excellent at BJJ, but he knows very damn well that MMA is another language all together. While he is elite in bjj, he isn't elite in the type of ground game you need for MMA. Striking while on the ground with fists and elbows is not something he trains for. Also, he has no standup game as far as I know. World class JiuJitsu players have been humbled in MMA competition (Roger Gracie, Marcelo Garcia, Andre Galvao etc) and I think Gordon knows it would take him years before being able to pretend to hang with professional MMA fighters in the UFC. Also, given his height & weight, I'd imagine he would be in the light heavyweight division of the UFC and that division has enough killers that would merc him. Don't get me wrong, there are world class JiuJitsu guys that have made it big in MMA, like Fabricio Werdum and Demian Maia for instance, but more times than not bjj guys don't fare well in pro MMA.
Frankly, I don't think pro-mma fighters need to have black belts in bjj to be effective inside the octagon. A purple belt would be more than enough. Also, stick to no-gi training, something along the lines of 10th planet jiujitsu and such.
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Agreed. Don't know about the taking a shot angle, but agree that he might not be too keen on mma.
Met him many years ago in NYC while at the gym. He is excellent at BJJ, but he knows very damn well that MMA is another language all together. While he is elite in bjj, he isn't elite in the type of ground game you need for MMA. Striking while on the ground with fists and elbows is not something he trains for. Also, he has no standup game as far as I know. World class JiuJitsu players have been humbled in MMA competition (Roger Gracie, Marcelo Garcia, Andre Galvao etc) and I think Gordon knows it would take him years before being able to pretend to hang with professional MMA fighters in the UFC. Also, given his height & weight, I'd imagine he would be in the light heavyweight division of the UFC and that division has enough killers that would merc him. Don't get me wrong, there are world class JiuJitsu guys that have made it big in MMA, like Fabricio Werdum and Demian Maia for instance, but more times than not bjj guys don't fare well in pro MMA.
Frankly, I don't think pro-mma fighters need to have black belts in bjj to be effective inside the octagon. A purple belt would be more than enough. Also, stick to no-gi training, something along the lines of 10th planet jiujitsu and such.
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I lived opposite Rogers Gracie academy in the 00s. Don't know if it makes a difference but he was juiced during his BJJ career, but by the time he fought in the the UFC he was a legit tiny tit. Saw him man handle some huge England rugby players at his academy. NH
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Gordon Ryan is a bjj God but rumours are he's not so keen on mma because he can't take a good shot?
His goal was always to transition to MMA but John Danaher convinced him to stay in No-Gi for a while
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He will get his ass kicked in mma look at what happened to Roger Gracie who was considered the greatest hw sport bjj artist of all time
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He will get his ass kicked in mma look at what happened to Roger Gracie who was considered the greatest hw sport bjj artist of all time
Roger was 8-2 in MMA not terrible at all
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Really, though, the reality of them is they're a few seconds of sudden violence, where on person has enough of the other's shit and decides to throw some hands. From that perspective, a prime Tyson pretty much wins them all, haha.
THIS
and not even tyson... hearns at all of a buck 47 lands his deadly overhand right would put even a 350 pound trud to sleep, LIIGHTS OUT nighty-night
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Maybe he can't take a punch?
That's possible but with that thick head and jaw I doubt it.
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When i found out Bhanks could ragdoll tyson it shattered my dreams! That a man so brittle, with every ailment humanly possible could throw him around like a teddy bear, i feel cheated, i thought tyson was an animal but he shouldn't be mentioned in these discussions no moe :'(
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Anyone can win, at any time.
The more “cards” in your deck, the greater your chances.
Jon, as great are his talents and skills, is a flesh-and-bone man. He’s vulnerable.
Some random tough in a parking lot could very conceivably trash Jones’ world.
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No human being is unbeatable at anything
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When we wipes the floorb with all 3, then what?
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When we wipes the floorb with all 3, then what?
Wiggs, Jones is due for a beating/loss.
It happens to 99% of the greats. Especially since he's going to heavyweight. I know his gameplan: use his ground game as an advantage.
That will only last for so long, and maybe even not for his first fight. I want Ngannou to knock the cocaine crust out of his nose.
Maybe then, Jones will learn not to be a fake person in real life.
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That's possible but with that thick head and jaw I doubt it.
Take Lesnar for example. Mongloid head but was scared to get hit.
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Take Lesnar for example. Mongloid head but was scared to get hit.
He was gifted physically, but a terrible fighter. He was just backed by the UFC machine.
Look at Paddy The Baddy. Everyone who saw the fight, said he lost, yet he won by unanimous decision. The UFC is backing his hype train.
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He was gifted physically, but a terrible fighter. He was just backed by the UFC machine.
Look at Paddy The Baddy. Everyone who saw the fight, said he lost, yet he won by unanimous decision. The UFC is backing his hype train.
I was surprised how bad at striking Brock was. Throwing punches isn't rocket science. When your full time job is fighting it shouldn't be that hard to learn.
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I was surprised how bad at striking Brock was. Throwing punches isn't rocket science. When your full time job is fighting it shouldn't be that hard to learn.
some guys are just toads with shit athletic abilty and he is one of them
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I was surprised how bad at striking Brock was. Throwing punches isn't rocket science. When your full time job is fighting it shouldn't be that hard to learn.
champion boxers have been training and practicing their punches for years. They've thrown their jabs, crosses and hooks millions of times. Some musclebound jamook like Brock isn't gonna pick that up in a few months or even years. Add fatigue and nerves into the mix and it's no wonder his striking was so terrible.
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champion boxers have been training and practicing their punches for years. They've thrown their jabs, crosses and hooks millions of times. Some musclebound jamook like Brock isn't gonna pick that up in a few months or even years. Add fatigue and nerves into the mix and it's no wonder his striking was so terrible.
An average person’s punching prowess, even when compared against a journeyman professional boxer, is like Shizzo playing tennis against a prime Roger Federer.
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An average person’s punching prowess, even when compared against a journeyman professional boxer, is like Shizzo playing tennis against a prime Roger Federer.
I'd take a few balls to the face for sure.
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I'd take a few balls to the face for sure.
No change there.
Once Primehomosexual finally dies, you will ascend to the Getbig dickdrainer throne.
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Khabib's Dad (RIP) on Jon Jones.
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No change there.
Once Primehomosexual finally dies, you will ascend to the Getbig dickdrainer throne.
I think something was lost in translation.
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An average person’s punching prowess, even when compared against a journeyman professional boxer, is like Shizzo playing tennis against a prime Roger Federer.
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Once Primehomosexual finally dies, you will ascend to the Getbig dickdrainer throne.
;D
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This guy fought Mike tyson
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This guy fought Mike tyson
Tyson, Klitschko and John Ruiz
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Was that Danny Williams?
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Was that Danny Williams?
Julius Francis. He fought Williams a couple of times.
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Danny Williams made Tyson quit was an entertaining fight
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I forgot about Julius Francis.
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Danny Williams made Tyson quit was an entertaining fight
That era of British heavyweight boxing had a bunch of fighters who could deliver decent entertainment. They hardly got any coverage though and we had Audley Harrison shoved down our throats instead.
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champion boxers have been training and practicing their punches for years. They've thrown their jabs, crosses and hooks millions of times. Some musclebound jamook like Brock isn't gonna pick that up in a few months or even years. Add fatigue and nerves into the mix and it's no wonder his striking was so terrible.
I'm not talking about Brock being a world champion boxer. I've trained in boxing gyms and literally everyone working out (even the girls) were better than Brock at boxing.
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Let's get back on topic. Think of how big of a fight Jones vs Ngannou fight would be. I wonder what his strategy would be? I saw in an Interview he said if he could get past the first round and not get knocked out, he would win. I have no reason to doubt this. I think we will see how tough and smart Jon is and on the highest level. I can see this going 5 rounds. If it goes to decision, Jon wins. Ngannou only wins by landing bombs. I think Jon outsmart him. Jon Jones is the greatest MMA Fighter of all time. Under UFC Rules, there has been no equal. Gustafson = loss. Reyes = loss. DC = many losses.
Show me the man that beats Jon Jones in the octagon.
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Let's get back on topic. Think of how big of a fight Jones vs Ngannou fight would be. I wonder what his strategy would be? I saw in an Interview he said if he could get past the first round and not get knocked out, he would win. I have no reason to doubt this. I think we will see how tough and smart Jon is and on the highest level. I can see this going 5 rounds. If it goes to decision, Jon wins. Ngannou only wins by landing bombs. I think Jon outsmart him. Jon Jones is the greatest MMA Fighter of all time. Under UFC Rules, there has been no equal. Gustafson = loss. Reyes = loss. DC = many losses.
Show me the man that beats Jon Jones in the octagon.
Possibly Ciryl Gane, if the fight stays standing
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Juice up Overeem vs coked and juice up Jon in their primes would've been epic.
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Let's get back on topic. Think of how big of a fight Jones vs Ngannou fight would be. I wonder what his strategy would be? I saw in an Interview he said if he could get past the first round and not get knocked out, he would win. I have no reason to doubt this. I think we will see how tough and smart Jon is and on the highest level. I can see this going 5 rounds. If it goes to decision, Jon wins. Ngannou only wins by landing bombs. I think Jon outsmart him. Jon Jones is the greatest MMA Fighter of all time. Under UFC Rules, there has been no equal. Gustafson = loss. Reyes = loss. DC = many losses.
Show me the man that beats Jon Jones in the octagon.
My opinion is that he needs to take him down immediately. Ngannou's wrestling has improved a lot, but that's how Jones should try and tire him out. First round - just shoot, take him down, look for submissions, land elbows, and make him use up a lot of energy trying to get back to his feet. Only once he can see that Ngannou is feeling the pace should he then stand up and pick him off. Smash his legs to bits with kicks and then take them upstairs. Just stay the fuck away from those wild hooks.
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I’m never sure what people even mean by a “street fight”. Is it just a debate on who would win in the absence of any rules whatsoever?
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I’m never sure what people even mean by a “street fight”. Is it just a debate on who would win in the absence of any rules whatsoever?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2yksn?playlist=x533z
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Juice up Overeem vs coked and juice up Jon in their primes would've been epic.
Oh that would go to Alistair. I don’t like Jon’s chances going up against a 260-270 LB kickboxer.
I don’t know if Jones could handle that type of punches and KNEES from a prime Alistair.
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some guys are just toads with shit athletic abilty and he is one of them
In what parallel universe does Brock have shit athletic ability? He's just not a good boxer. And I'd wager he's way more athletically gifted than most boxers
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In what parallel universe does Brock have shit athletic ability? He's just not a good boxer. And I'd wager he's way more athletically gifted than most boxers
Brock was actually pretty good at punching... but he was not good when he got punched.
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Lesnar was an NCAA Division I heavyweight wrestling champion and two-time All-American. Was also signed by the Vikings and played in several NFL pre-season games.
A pedestrian curriculum vitae by Getbig standards, admittedly.
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In what parallel universe does Brock have shit athletic ability?
Yeah, what he said is just silly. Or hugely ignorant of the facts.
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Brock lesnar also won the ufc hw in his 3rd fight that has never been done anyone who says he couldn’t fight is a moron with shit for brains
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Let's get back on topic. Think of how big of a fight Jones vs Ngannou fight would be. I wonder what his strategy would be? I saw in an Interview he said if he could get past the first round and not get knocked out, he would win. I have no reason to doubt this. I think we will see how tough and smart Jon is and on the highest level. I can see this going 5 rounds. If it goes to decision, Jon wins. Ngannou only wins by landing bombs. I think Jon outsmart him. Jon Jones is the greatest MMA Fighter of all time. Under UFC Rules, there has been no equal. Gustafson = loss. Reyes = loss. DC = many losses.
Show me the man that beats Jon Jones in the octagon.
Let's settle down here. He's going to be stepping into the cage with guys that live and fight at that weight class while he's been playing with the little fellas.
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Let's settle down here. He's going to be stepping into the cage with guys that live and fight at that weight class while he's been playing with the little fellas.
Exactly and he has never faced anyone that hits like ngannou also people forget he barely won his past two fights not like he blew through santos and Reyes
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Brock lesnar also won the ufc hw in his 3rd fight that has never been done anyone who says he couldn’t fight is a moron with shit for brains
They put him in championship fights immediately because of his fame. No other fighter has ever done that because they actually have to win a large number of fights before they ever get a title shot.
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They put him in championship fights immediately because of his fame. No other fighter has ever done that because they actually have to win a large number of fights before they ever get a title shot.
He beat frank mir Heath herring and couture hardly cans
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He beat frank mir Heath herring and couture hardly cans
Brock Lesnar would get ragdolled by manly Brian Wood Hankins.
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Yet many martyn ford fans say ford would kill brock
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Brock Lesnar would get ragdolled by manly Brian Wood Hankins.
I was so pissed when Lesnar beat Mir the second time. Mir, was my favorite fighter. Remember when he gave Crocop a knee that put him to sleep?