I have been following this on the news. Pretty interesting. First time the House has fail to elect a speaker has happened since 1923, a hundred years ago. I am anxious to see what happens. A second vote in in the works. Wonder how many times the will vote before a speaker is elected?
What do you suppose Coach's opinion is about this. Wonder if he has any insight via his DC connections.
Besides you and I there appears to be no comments about this.
Early into the 2nd there were enough votes for Jim Jordan to sink McCarthy
3rd ballot in imminent with likely the same result
Yes, this is historic.
It took 9 ballots in 1923
Without a Speaker the Congress can't convene. No one is sworn in and nothing happens
So then on the plus side, if the swearing in process is delayed maybe whoever is elected House Speaker will think twice about swearing in George Santos. From what I've heard and read, once that liar is in, it will be next to impossible to get him out... unless of course he is charged and convicted of a crime which would take a while.
So then on the plus side, if the swearing in process is delayed maybe whoever is elected House Speaker will think twice about swearing in George Santos. From what I've heard and read, once that liar is in, it will be next to impossible to get him out... unless of course he is charged and convicted of a crime which would take a while.
Doesn't seem like but a few of the GOP want to toss him. Of course, being a prolific and compulsive liar is all they know how to choose and follow.
It would be hilarious if he got sworn in and then immediately started voting for the most liberal policies he came across. :D
How many ballots will it take and how damaged will McCarthy be if he is eventually elected to be Speaker
Edit - Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries just got the most votes in the first ballot
This is pretty fucking embarrassing for McCarthy
He's had weeks to whip up these votes and apparently he's made a lot of concessions and he still got his ass handed to him
I think if McCarthy eventually wins the Speaker role he's in for a very rough two years.....from his own party
I don’t care who gets in as long as it isn’t another liberal democrat
Pretty pathetic showing for the Republican Party. One thing these libs know how to do, is stick together. For all the “they’re eating each other” talk from conservative folks, they really do stick together.
Sticking together no matter what is what has gotten us in this hyper partisan mess we're in.
Let them put him through the ringer a bit.
Whatcha talkin bout Willis?
What's the "hyper partisan" part here?
This is 100% a Republican cluster fuck
Yeah, and irongrip was saying how the left sticks together, no matter how much hypocrisy, extremism, virtue signaling, TDS, shit policy, and lying exists there.
So, the same thing on the Republican would side be bad too.
What are you talking aboutClearly you are retarded.
Do you means Dems "sticking together" to vote for a Democratic Speaker?
Republicans are usually the ones who stick together when faced with hypocrisy, extremism, virtue signaling, TDS, shit policy, and lying exists there.
Are you expecting Dems to vote for McCarthy?
Again, nothing at all partisan about McCarthy's humiliation
This is all Republican and it's basically a handful of nutbags within their party that are doing it to him and he/Republicans totally deserves it (maybe we agree on that?)
This is just a foreshadow of the chaos to come in the next two years
Clearly you are retarded.
And McCarthy lost his 3rd attempt. :D
What are you talking about
Do you means Dems "sticking together" to vote for a Democratic Speaker?
Republicans are usually the ones who stick together when faced with hypocrisy, extremism, virtue signaling, TDS, shit policy, and lying exists there.
Are you expecting Dems to vote for McCarthy?
Again, nothing at all partisan about McCarthy's humiliation
This is all Republican and it's basically a handful of nutbags within their party that are doing it to him and he/Republicans totally deserves it (maybe we agree on that?)
This is just a foreshadow of the chaos to come in the next two years
Doesn't seem like but a few of the GOP want to toss him. Of course, being a prolific and compulsive liar is all they know how to choose and follow.
Read his post again, because you are clearly not understanding. He is saying that the left always sticks together. That is it. No context, just always sticking together. I am saying that is not a good thing and that if Republicans just do the same thing, that is bad as well. Meaning, if there are those who think McCarthy is bad for the party, let them voice it.
Your second paragraph is pure partisan garbage, and you know it. Both parties share a degree of this.
You voted for a president and more than likely left down the ballot (all ballots in the last 14 years) that literally lied and got caught AND proven they lied over…
“Russian Collusion” (for 7 years) Fake birth certificate, Benjihahahahaha, Pizzagate, stolen election anyone?
A hooker I have never posted anything about a hooker. You can either provide the post where I did or just be a liar like you already are
a Ukraine phone call I have never made a comment on any phone call made. Again, you are just a liar
2 fake impeachments Wasn't fake. Pretty sure they are in the history books
A fake warrant Real warrant signed by a real judge executing a real search which turned up real classified documents
Tax returns (twice) I have never made any comments about Trumpy's taxes nor have any interest in what they may or may not show. LIAR
Oh yeah…most recent the fake January 6 “Insurrection” Do the crime, do the time. Sucks for those criminals
And about 20 other “smoking guns” that were debunked Hell you haven't debunked shit from the above you listed by attributing me to things I never said or comment on. Not surprising, you are just a retarded little liar who can't stop whining
Not to mention…
“The swamp doesn’t make for ‘fielding viable alternatives’ w/o pressure – see, e.g., threats this morning to yank people from committees who aren’t ‘in line,'” Roy tweeted. “We (conservatives) b**** about how broken DC is, but then some force a fight to change it, & people get squeamish?”
Poor Kevin appears to be on track to lose the 4th ballot
Discourse is good.
Kevin is too stupid to tap out.
But seriously.... why would you want to lead a group now when it is clear that they don't want you. This is like watching a Congressional episode of Mean Girls.
It’s only 10% of the party, so it’s not like it’s everybody. He does though, need to think about maybe rallying everybody around Jordan and bow out gracefully if he thinks that might stop this mess.
It’s only 10% of the party, so it’s not like it’s everybody. He does though, need to think about maybe rallying everybody around Jordan and bow out gracefully if he thinks that might stop this mess.
Mr McCarthy shows us why loyalty & fidelity to Mr trump is so important
McCarthy has now lost the tenth ballot
He's a ten time LOSER
Talk about a laughing stock
This is beyond ridiculous at this point
The 11th ballot is underway
I have a good feeling about this one.
Scratch that - he just lost again
12th time is that charm
The 11th ballot is underwayHas anyone ever lost this many votes in a row for Speaker?
I have a good feeling about this one.
Scratch that - he just lost again
12th time is the charm
the first few defeats were probably a humiliation of Mr McCarthy
but subsequent defeats are a major humiliation for the Republican Party and Mr Trump
Has anyone ever lost this many votes in a row for Speaker?
No, I don't think he was humiliated by it. He is too desperate for humility to register at this point. I think he probably feels desperate enough that it can go 200 to votes, 30 party members pass away or retire, the branches of Congress are dissolved and replaced by SkyNet and he will still be squatting in the Speaker's office just waiting for the vote to affirm his deepest desires.
He's like a Jehovah Witness at this point. He just won't go away.
Good point
It's probably impossible for someone who has no shame to be humiliated
It's kind of ironic and maybe even synchronistic in some way but the two craziest people in the Republican Party are holding hostage the other 216 in their own party
Happy January 6th
Finally, the House can get down to business...or can they? I can't imagine much congressional work getting anywhere with a speaker almost nobody respects and as few as one unhappy camper has the ability oust him for whatever.
Tonight, was a lose - lose for the House, specially the Republican Representatives, that is with the exception of the three or four crazies in their ranks.
The last few days have bought into focus the sorry state of U.S. politics and politicians and it is probably going to get even sorrier over the next couple of years.
Another way to consider it is that two Democrats could have given the House the inevitable. Jeffries will NOT become the Speaker this session.
Another way to consider it is that two Democrats could have given the House the inevitable. Jeffries will NOT become the Speaker this session.
McCarthy’s concessions include changes to how the House is run, placing members of the House Freedom Caucus on key committees, and the creation of a committee to conduct a major investigation into the FBI.
These included getting a vote on a border security plan, a budget that doesn’t allow the debt ceiling to increase, an end to all COVID mandates and funding, a term limit vote, single subject bills, and allowing at least 72 hours given for members to read bills.
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I noticed that she was flirting with him big time. He didn't look like he minded it. He might want to be careful; she is as crazy as a loon.
prime continuing to ignore real topics and focus on mjt in this thread
IMO, this thread needs a little comic relief. Coach's post is a repeat of those previously posted by Grape Ape and deadz about McCarthy ousting some committee members (which has not yet happened), in retaliation for Marjorie Taylor Green and others who were ousted by Democrats in the previous session. How many times do we want to read the same shit?