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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs3vUubrguQ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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RIP
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Not on Insta.
Any other source?
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RIP..he was a very good bber in tough competitive field 80/90's had a great build when peaked,wbf fukked him 'look'he didnt help being out of shape.he was a good teenage bber as well..
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Not on Insta.
Any other source?
Mmmmmm…the link I posted was RX Muscles Insta
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The text from the Rx Muscle post -
"@official_rxmuscle
We're saddened to report the passing of Mike Quinn aka "Mighty" Mike Quinn. His sister, Kellie, posted on her Facebook page that Mike passed away after a long illness. The only thing bigger than Mike's freakish physique and oversized biceps was his larger than life personality. He was an entertainer and was never shy from speaking his mind. He will truly be missed. We pass our condolences to Mike's family, friends, and fans around the world."
Same post on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/rxmuscledotcom/ .
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Damn I remember watching his interview from a while back. he was extremely candid and funny. RIP
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I have to offer my wishes to his family but he was one racist piece of shit during my interactions.
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I have to offer my wishes to his family but he was one racist piece of shit during my interactions.
LMAO
"Racist" ::) ::) ::)
"My interactions" ::) ::) ::)
GTFOOH
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I have to offer my wishes to his family but he was one racist piece of shit during my interactions.
How so Vince?
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LMAO
"Racist" ::) ::) ::)
"My interactions" ::) ::) ::)
GTFOOH
"Hey Mike, can I talk with you? It's me, Vince!"
"No sorry I can't, don't have the time right now"
"Racist!"
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Black people (obviously not all) despise whites, and are the biggest racists on the planet... (Totally normal behavior).
They think its OK for them to be, but not others...
Everyone is whether they admit it or not (in some way).
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I have to offer my wishes to his family but he was one racist piece of shit during my interactions.
LOL ! Maybe it wasn't that you were black but that you are a fudge packer
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I have to offer my wishes to his family but he was one racist piece of shit during my interactions.
This is a beautiful eulogy.
Mike was a man with faults, as we are all, but he still remains respected by those who knew him.
Thanks for sharing this Vince.
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RIP
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P.I.P Mike was from Brockton not that far from me , tough town.
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:'(
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:'(
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Before clicking on that thread, I had to pause for a second and figure which one was Mike and which one was Jim Quinn again ;D
Bet the latter already received a few RIPs
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:'(
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I have to offer my wishes to his family but he was one racist piece of shit during my interactions.
P.I.P Mike was from Brockton not that far from me , tough town.
November 18, 1961 - May 29, 2023
Here lies Mike Quinn from Brockton, Mass
He had no time for negroes
That take it in their ass.
Might be a bit much to fit on the tombstone.
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That sux!!
RIP my fellow Masshole.
^^^^(no disrespect intended, we all call each other that if you`re from Massachusettes.)
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When I saw him a year ago he looked like he was being held together by duct tape and warm wishes. He was in bad shape for a while.
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November 18, 1961 - May 29, 2023
Here lies Mike Quinn from Brockton, Mass
He had no time for negroes
That take it in their ass.
Might be a bit much to fit on the tombstone.
(https://i.postimg.cc/MTv1zpHX/lol-laughing.gif)
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I have to offer my wishes to his family but he was one racist piece of shit during my interactions.
LOL ! Maybe it wasn't that you were black but that you are a fudge packer you
fixed
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ALWAYS looked pissed off'had face'like that..
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Dammit!
PIP Mike :(
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:'(
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Damn. Party time is over. PIP!
(https://j.gifs.com/BrGWOQ.gif)
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It's a shame he couldn't monetize his experiences all that well post bodybuilding. He would've made a good podcast guy, ala Greg Valentino if he'd have tired.
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Mass may be a liberal septic tank but it has produced many well known bodybuilders.
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Before clicking on that thread, I had to pause for a second and figure which one was Mike and which one was Jim Quinn again ;D
Bet the latter already received a few RIPs
I never can tell which one is Mike Francois/Jim Quinn/Mike Christian/Mike Quinn and I'm sure there's another one in the mix I can't remember.
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I never can tell which one is Mike Francois/Jim Quinn/Mike Christian/Mike Quinn and I'm sure there's another one in the mix I can't remember.
That's like me with Eddie Robinson and Robby Robinson. Either way, one of those guys you listed is dead. I guarantee it.
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Mass may be a liberal septic tank but it has produced many well known bodybuilders.
Hell yeah...Quinn,Jeff King,Matt Dufresne,Dave Mastorakis,Fred Bigot,Matarazzo,Cutler,DeMayo,Pat Hayes,Chris Aceto,Rich Roy,Joe Gomes,Teddy Lopes,Victor Terra,Craig Licker,robcguns,Arvilla,wes.......just to name a few off the top of my head. ;)
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Hilarious!
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… but he was one racist piece of shit during my interactions.
Heck, now I like Mike just that much more.
You’re a rump-rumbler and black. What’s to like?
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PIP
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Just saw this. RIP.
Seemed he led a pretty troubled life and had some demons.
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"Hey Mike, can I talk with you? It's me, Vince!"
"No sorry I can't, don't have the time right now"
"Racist!"
Almost certainly how it played out. He seemed to get along with all his black competitors when they were competing and traveling on the pro circuit together.
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Hell yeah...Quinn,Jeff King,Matt Dufresne,Dave Mastorakis,Fred Bigot,Matarazzo,Cutler,DeMayo,Pat Hayes,Chris Aceto,Rich Roy,Joe Gomes,Teddy Lopes,Victor Terra,robcguns,Arvilla,wes.......just to name a few off the top of my head. ;)
Forgot about that spark plug Victor Terra
https://www.google.com/search?q=victor+terra+2019&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=5rSNedXTeXvGZM&ip=1
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Almost certainly how it played out. He seemed to get along with all his black competitors when they were competing and traveling on the pro circuit together.
Wasn't he Robby Robinson's training partner in the late 80s at Gold's for a good while? How does that compute?
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Wasn't he Robby Robinson's training partner in the late 80s at Gold's for a good while? How does that compute?
He was holding Robby down. The Joe Weider bust, it was Mike’s idea.
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That's like me with Eddie Robinson and Robby Robinson. Either way, one of those guys you listed is dead. I guarantee it.
One broke his back tripping over a dog, the other is a smelly homeless
HTH
Almost certainly how it played out. He seemed to get along with all his black competitors when they were competing and traveling on the pro circuit together.
Maybe the genesis of this was his use of the N word in that nightclub incident where the Mob guy bottled him..?
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Forgot about that spark plug Victor Terra
https://www.google.com/search?q=victor+terra+2019&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=5rSNedXTeXvGZM&ip=1
Great physique!!
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Hell yeah...Quinn,Jeff King,Matt Dufresne,Dave Mastorakis,Fred Bigot,Matarazzo,Cutler,DeMayo,Pat Hayes,Chris Aceto,Rich Roy,Joe Gomes,Teddy Lopes,Victor Terra,Craig Licker,robcguns,Arvilla,wes.......just to name a few off the top of my head. ;)
Yeah buddy. That’s more than I knew. The last 3 names are the best.
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Yeah buddy. That’s more than I knew. The last 3 names are the best.
There`s tons more guys but who fucking cares when we are included? LOL ;D
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Rest In Peace Mike, you were an awesome bodybuilder
This is one of the most badass bodybuilding pics of all time
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:o
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:'(
I think this was from the NOC he placed 3rd at.
I remember that being amazing considering how poor he was doing previously. Sounded like an amazing jump. They said he was tough guy but then I heard him speak on youtube and he didn't sound "tough." Also he got jaundice just after the show, it was that 93 show IIRC. Must have pounded the orals or drinking heavyily or something.
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Mike was a troubled soul but like many of us on this forum he was someone who spent a great part of his life in the gym battling himself and his demons. Im pretty sure he didn't set out in life too be a role model for anyone, but he built a good physique just surrounded it with a pretty shitty personality. But RIP to him all the same. Actually surprised he lived this long and wasn't murdered. still RIP
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Mike was a troubled soul but like many of us on this forum he was someone who spent a great part of his life in the gym battling himself and his demons. Im pretty sure he didn't set out in life too be a role model for anyone, but he built a good physique just surrounded it with a pretty shitty personality. But RIP to him all the same. Actually surprised he lived this long and wasn't murdered. still RIP
To and too
Look into it.
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Any word on cause of death?
Was it steroids like what killed Dolph Lundgren?
Is Dolph still dead?
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Damn. 61. PIP
Hankins lucky to make 50
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Remember when the mob guy beat the shit out of him in that night club?
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Remember when the mob guy beat the shit out of him in that night club? Some say he beat him with a beer mug but others say it was some kind of bludgeon like a slapper.
Was it this guy?
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/1cbcb3e756100c00866ef5b8ffd67ea9/tumblr_n1ectzlFxV1smrjhwo1_250.gif)
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Black people (obviously not all) despise whites, and are the biggest racists on the planet... (Totally normal behavior).
They think its OK for them to be, but not others...
Everyone is whether they admit it or not (in some way).
Prejudice, not racist
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Was it this guy?
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/1cbcb3e756100c00866ef5b8ffd67ea9/tumblr_n1ectzlFxV1smrjhwo1_250.gif)
I was actually in a restaurant with Joe Pesci. My wife said in the next table over that's Joe Pesci. I told her, What would he be doing here? Later I learned he lived close in a mansion on the water and the waiters confirmed he was there frequently on subsequent trips to the restaurant.
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I was actually in a restaurant with Joe Pesci. My wife said in the next table over that's Joe Pesci. I told her, What would he be doing here? Later I learned he lived close in a mansion on the water and the waiters confirmed he was there frequently on subsequent trips to the restaurant.
Did you ask the waiter about this person?
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Remember when the mob guy beat the shit out of him in that night club? Some say he beat him with a beer mug but others say it was some kind of bludgeon like a slapper.
The guy was Chris Paciello, who was connected to a mob run burglary crew in Brooklyn and Queens. Later he was sent down to Florida, to cool his heels after a few burglaries went bad, and a woman died. While in Miami, he opened "Liquid" night club, which was a hot spot for a while. Now, he owns a few high end gyms - https://anatomyfitness.com/ .
Story that goes along with the beating -
"Michael Quinn never saw the blow coming. The five-foot eight-inch, 270-pound former Mr. Universe was sitting in the nightclub Liquid with a young couple the night of June 25, 1996. After the woman, who was white, borrowed a hat from a black man, Quinn told her to "give the ni--er his hat back." Then BAM! A beer bottle slammed into Quinn's face. The bodybuilder struggled to stay conscious, but he crumpled to the floor. Then someone repeatedly kicked him.
The bottle-wielding attacker wasn't the cap's owner, Quinn recounts. It was Liquid proprietor Chris Paciello. Quinn, who now is ashamed at having used the racist term, sued the nightclub and Paciello in 1996. The trial was scheduled to begin this month, but on November 23 a federal grand jury in New York indicted Paciello for robbery and murder. Prosecutors say he was involved in a mob-affiliated gang, known as the Bath Avenue Crew, that was responsible for a series of brutal murders and robberies in the early Nineties.
Paciello's connection with gangsters may explain a few things. Peter Mineo, Quinn's Fort Lauderdale attorney, says a witness to the attack suddenly disappeared. "We're having a hard time locating her," Mineo says. "She had agreed to give a deposition, but she never showed up. Someone overheard her telling a friend that Chris Paciello offered to bribe her not to testify." Another explanation for the witness's reticence comes from champion boxer Vinny Pazienza, who is a friend of Quinn: "I got a call from an acquaintance. He told me to tell Mike to back off because these are bad people and something could happen to him." (Paciello's attorneys declined to comment on the case.)"
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/goon-over-miami-6357173 - Story on the guy that beat him.
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From 1988-1992 the guy was a true inspiration; like a thundercat come to life "
Like someone said, should have been a Podcaster/influencer in his later years ......very charismatic and likeable dude with the controversy needed to get the argument going.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH :'(
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:'(
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I was actually in a restaurant with Joe Pesci. My wife said in the next table over that's Joe Pesci. I told her, What would he be doing here? Later I learned he lived close in a mansion on the water and the waiters confirmed he was there frequently on subsequent trips to the restaurant.
Yes, he had a place on the water.
He sold it a year or two ago.
Check this out...
https://lavallette-seaside.shorebeat.com/2022/05/the-joe-pesci-house-in-lavallette-has-been-demolished/
(https://townsquare.media/site/385/files/2019/11/Pesci-home-1.jpg?w=1200&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89)
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I was actually in a restaurant with Joe Pesci. My wife said in the next table over that's Joe Pesci. I told her, What would he be doing here? Later I learned he lived close in a mansion on the water and the waiters confirmed he was there frequently on subsequent trips to the restaurant.
Did you run home and grab your shine box?
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Mike also had a hand in training Vinny "The Pazmanian Devil" Pazienza.
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Yes, he had a place on the water.
He sold it a year or two ago.
Check this out...
https://lavallette-seaside.shorebeat.com/2022/05/the-joe-pesci-house-in-lavallette-has-been-demolished/
(https://townsquare.media/site/385/files/2019/11/Pesci-home-1.jpg?w=1200&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89)
That’s a hell of a deck.
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The guy was Chris Paciello, who was connected to a mob run burglary crew in Brooklyn and Queens. Later he was sent down to Florida, to cool his heels after a few burglaries went bad, and a woman died. While in Miami, he opened "Liquid" night club, which was a hot spot for a while. Now, he owns a few high end gyms - https://anatomyfitness.com/ .
Story that goes along with the beating -
"Michael Quinn never saw the blow coming. The five-foot eight-inch, 270-pound former Mr. Universe was sitting in the nightclub Liquid with a young couple the night of June 25, 1996. After the woman, who was white, borrowed a hat from a black man, Quinn told her to "give the ni--er his hat back." Then BAM! A beer bottle slammed into Quinn's face. The bodybuilder struggled to stay conscious, but he crumpled to the floor. Then someone repeatedly kicked him.
The bottle-wielding attacker wasn't the cap's owner, Quinn recounts. It was Liquid proprietor Chris Paciello. Quinn, who now is ashamed at having used the racist term, sued the nightclub and Paciello in 1996. The trial was scheduled to begin this month, but on November 23 a federal grand jury in New York indicted Paciello for robbery and murder. Prosecutors say he was involved in a mob-affiliated gang, known as the Bath Avenue Crew, that was responsible for a series of brutal murders and robberies in the early Nineties.
Paciello's connection with gangsters may explain a few things. Peter Mineo, Quinn's Fort Lauderdale attorney, says a witness to the attack suddenly disappeared. "We're having a hard time locating her," Mineo says. "She had agreed to give a deposition, but she never showed up. Someone overheard her telling a friend that Chris Paciello offered to bribe her not to testify." Another explanation for the witness's reticence comes from champion boxer Vinny Pazienza, who is a friend of Quinn: "I got a call from an acquaintance. He told me to tell Mike to back off because these are bad people and something could happen to him." (Paciello's attorneys declined to comment on the case.)"
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/goon-over-miami-6357173 - Story on the guy that beat him.
Should have killed him, all that muscle and can’t fight worth a shit
Good riddance
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I think this was from the NOC he placed 3rd at.
I remember that being amazing considering how poor he was doing previously. Sounded like an amazing jump. They said he was tough guy but then I heard him speak on youtube and he didn't sound "tough." Also he got jaundice just after the show, it was that 93 show IIRC. Must have pounded the orals or drinking heavyily or something.
I Met Mike Quinn at the NoC in '90 or so. We had a mutual friend who went to high school with him. Super cool dude. :D
I was going to say hello to Nicole Bass but she was too intimidating. :-[
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What number is he on the Norwood scale?
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Wow PIP
Between the long hair, earrings, and winning smile he had a very distinct look. One of the first bodybuilders I remember seeing in some Robert Kennedy book.
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At least he was not a boring BB RIP
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At least he was not a boring BB RIP
Neither was Craiggers Titus
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I think this was from the NOC he placed 3rd at.
I remember that being amazing considering how poor he was doing previously. Sounded like an amazing jump. They said he was tough guy but then I heard him speak on youtube and he didn't sound "tough." Also he got jaundice just after the show, it was that 93 show IIRC. Must have pounded the orals or drinking heavyily or something.
He did a few different interviews on Jon Hansen's legends of bodybuilding show. He talked about that NOC. I think it was 95 actually and he placed ok. Can't remember exactly what he placed. He legs were still a little behind his upper body. Anyway in the interview with Hansen Mike talked the difference in drug use between 91, his last WBF show, and 95. He said in just 4 short years the drug dosages and different compounds guys were using tripled. He said he couldn't continue to use that much just to get a 5th place (at best) hr didn't mention jaundice but I think he said using that much gear would've killed him. And just a few years ago, a few years before the pandemic he was training for some kind of masters show but it never happened. He was on real bad shape about 10 years ago but I guess he recovered somewhat so suprised to see him dying now.
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November 18, 1961 - May 29, 2023
Here lies Mike Quinn from Brockton, Mass
He had no time for negroes
That take it in their ass.
Might be a bit much to fit on the tombstone.
;D
P.I.P. & R.I.P. mighty Quinn
Btw, the bottle story is a bit hard to believe - why would the owner care if Mike called a guest a slur word in a club that was most likely full of folks. Reeks a bit of "racists must be punished" drama.
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"Hey Mike, can I talk with you? It's me, Vince!"
"No sorry I can't, don't have the time right now"
"Racist!"
^ This. RIP to a very entertaining bodybuilder.
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Btw, the bottle story is a bit hard to believe - why would the owner care if Mike called a guest a slur word in a club that was most likely full of folks. Reeks a bit of "racists must be punished" drama.
There's a book called "Mob Over Miami" that explains it a little more. The black guy with the hat was a semi-pro basket ball player that was friendly with Paciello through Madonna. The hat the girl was playing with was some special edition that only team members got, and at the end, the guy was just going to give the hat to the girl to be nice. But Mike started in with the "Give the ni--er his hat back" "Why do you want a ni--er's hat?" stuff.
Paciello was by the table now, and he tells him to shut up and apologize. Mike tells him to fuck off, and then Mike gets cracked with the bottle, punched in the face, and stomped out.
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Mike also did or almost did get lumped up by Greg Haugen, the boxer, during a bathroom brawl he had with Vinnie Paz, who Mike was bodyguarding at the time.
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There's a book called "Mob Over Miami" that explains it a little more. The black guy with the hat was a semi-pro basket ball player that was friendly with Paciello through Madonna. The hat the girl was playing with was some special edition that only team members got, and at the end, the guy was just going to give the hat to the girl to be nice. But Mike started in with the "Give the ni--er his hat back" "Why do you want a ni--er's hat?" stuff.
Paciello was by the table now, and he tells him to shut up and apologize. Mike tells him to fuck off, and then Mike gets cracked with the bottle, punched in the face, and stomped out.
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Mike also did or almost did get lumped up by Greg Haugen, the boxer, during a bathroom brawl he had with Vinnie Paz, who Mike was bodyguarding at the time.
I’ve heard this story before.
Let’s say that this story is all true...
Vince Goodrum will read information like this, and then he’ll form a delusion that he had a similar interaction with Mike.
(Vince has already said that he had racist interactions with Mike. And we already know that Vince likes to “parrot” other people’s stories)
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The Ni**er story is probably true. If Mike sued the Owner/Paciello guy there would've been depositions. And at some point Mike would've been asked by his own attorney's "Mike 13 separate witnesses claim you called so and so a ni**er?" Back in the mid 90's it was a less insane world and Mike -knowing being truthful under these circumstances could've earned him a lot of money. Also there's another quote attributed to Mike that he now regrets using the slur.
Nowadays the internet is littered with viral videos of some black guy or group of guys beating people for no fucking reason but the comments usually imply that the victim used the 'N word' which in turn implies that violently assaulting someone over a word is ok as long as it's black on white. But in the mid-90's speech, even profane or vulgar speech was still protected by the constitution and sucker punching someone especially with a bottle would've cost you a lot of money. Especially if you were a night club owner.
If I remember Mike owned a popular gym too but his ties to the mob put an end to that endeavor as well.
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There's a book called "Mob Over Miami" that explains it a little more. The black guy with the hat was a semi-pro basket ball player that was friendly with Paciello through Madonna. The hat the girl was playing with was some special edition that only team members got, and at the end, the guy was just going to give the hat to the girl to be nice. But Mike started in with the "Give the ni--er his hat back" "Why do you want a ni--er's hat?" stuff.
Paciello was by the table now, and he tells him to shut up and apologize. Mike tells him to fuck off, and then Mike gets cracked with the bottle, punched in the face, and stomped out.
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Mike also did or almost did get lumped up by Greg Haugen, the boxer, during a bathroom brawl he had with Vinnie Paz, who Mike was bodyguarding at the time.
Greg Haugen would have handed him his ass.....he started off bare knuckle fight IIRC....tough little fucker.......of course Hanky would destroy him and Tyson along with Paz all at once.
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I’ve heard this story before.
Let’s say that this story is all true...
Vince Goodrum will read information like this, and then he’ll form a delusion that he had a similar interaction with Mike.
(Vince has already said that he had racist interactions with Mike. And we already know that Vince likes to “parrot” other people’s stories)
Vince read the story, so it automatically applied to him.
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He did a few different interviews on Jon Hansen's legends of bodybuilding show. He talked about that NOC. I think it was 95 actually and he placed ok. Can't remember exactly what he placed. He legs were still a little behind his upper body. Anyway in the interview with Hansen Mike talked the difference in drug use between 91, his last WBF show, and 95. He said in just 4 short years the drug dosages and different compounds guys were using tripled. He said he couldn't continue to use that much just to get a 5th place (at best) hr didn't mention jaundice but I think he said using that much gear would've killed him. And just a few years ago, a few years before the pandemic he was training for some kind of masters show but it never happened. He was on real bad shape about 10 years ago but I guess he recovered somewhat so suprised to see him dying now.
The video description here says Mike was training for the 2012 Master's here:
So that video is at least 11 years old, but may be a little older.
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Mighty Mike Quinn was one of my favorites and one of the first to join the WBF back in the early 90s.
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Mighty Mike Quinn was one of my favorites and one of the first to join the WBF back in the early 90s.
He was paid at least $200,000 for joining.
It may have been $400,000 for a 2-year contract. Vince McMahon didn't have success with it, but Rich Gaspari said it resulted in Joe Weider putting up money for bodybuilders.
I was told Gunter was paid $400,000 in 1994 to basically come to the USA from Germany, by Joe Weider.
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R.I.P., why did he die though? Heart issue? drug overdose?
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R.I.P., why did he die though? Heart issue? drug overdose?
He was "battling an illness". More info here:
https://www.distractify.com/p/mike-quinn-bodybuilder-cause-of-death
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I wonder how many of his ex wives will show up to the funeral.
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He was "battling an illness". More info here:
https://www.distractify.com/p/mike-quinn-bodybuilder-cause-of-death
Bro...
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The video description here says Mike was training for the 2012 Master's here:
So that video is at least 11 years old, but may be a little older.
RIP Mike. He had a good build at his peak!
My wife actually texted me about his death. I already knew by then. She probably saw it on Facebook. She's not into Bodybuilding at all.
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I'm hearing a rumor that it was ''overdose'', is this true??
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Sad news. He was one of the big names when I first started training. Always liked him as a bodybuilder. I remember him training for the Masters in 2012. Shame things didn't work out for him.
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I'm hearing a rumor that it was ''overdose'', is this true??
To which drug was he addicted?
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That’s a hell of a deck.
that jacuzzi is way to exposed, if you're getting a blowjob from a prostitute any one standing on the street can see
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;D
P.I.P. & R.I.P. mighty Quinn
Btw, the bottle story is a bit hard to believe - why would the owner care if Mike called a guest a slur word in a club that was most likely full of folks. Reeks a bit of "racists must be punished" drama.
Sounds like the organized crime guy just wanted some cred for beating the shit out of a muscle guy.
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To which drug was he addicted?
I don't know if overdose is true or not. I haven't heard or read anything but Im curious.
As far as his addictions go.... the guy was a mess, a real head case that only got worse as he got older. He was on a ton of prescriptions at one point. He talked about his mental health and it was a laundry list of psych disorders. ADD, ADHD, Bi Poloar, Manic Depression etc... apparently his sister died young and tragically and he took it really hard as well.
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by now his upper body finally matches his legs
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Mike was never a serious contender to win any shows. He was basically a crowd favorite... never a top tier contestant.
It was said that he joined the WBF only because he thought the rest of the IFBB would not join and their absence would give him a better chance to actually win a show.
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To which drug was he addicted?
Mike did a lot of blow back in the day,90s but that was a long time ago, I thought I heard he had been battling some sort of illness rather than anything else.
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Mike was never a serious contender to win any shows. He was basically a crowd favorite... never a top tier contestant.
It was said that he joined the WBF only because he thought the rest of the IFBB would not join and their absence would give him a better chance to actually win a show.
Mike Quinn was one of those Olympia-to-Olympia guys. Plus, he placed top 10 at the Olympia at least twice, prior to leaving for the WBF.
I recall having a somewhat spirited debate with another poster about this subject months ago. But, back in the day, placing top 10 at the Olympia gave you more clout as a bodybuilder (especially since it qualified you for the next year's O) than winning lower pro shows.
So, Quinn was considered among the elite. As for the WBF, Berry DeMey was the very first one signed, if I remember correctly. I had the issue of Bodybuilding Lifestyles/WBF magazine, claiming that he was their first superstar.
But other guys were going and there were a number of close calls. Rich Gaspari came within an eyelash of signing. Shawn Ray seriously considered it, until he learned (per his claim) that McMahon offered him $225K per year (hot off his 3rd-place Olympia finish), while offering Ray's training partner, Troy Zuccolotto, $275K per year (despite his having only won the Nationals in '89 and not competing at all in '90).
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He was paid at least $200,000 for joining.
It may have been $400,000 for a 2-year contract. Vince McMahon didn't have success with it, but Rich Gaspari said it resulted in Joe Weider putting up money for bodybuilders.
I was told Gunter was paid $400,000 in 1994 to basically come to the USA from Germany, by Joe Weider.
Indeed, not only did the IFBB offer more money to its pros, but Weider had them appear exclusively in Flex and Muscle & Fitness (just as Vince McMahon has the WBF guys only appear in his WBF Bodybuilding Lifestyles Magazine).
Plus, the prize money for the Olympia got bumped to $100,000 in 1992, after McMahon awarded $100,000 to Gary Strydom for winning the WBF Championship in 1991 (the highest prize money for a pro show at the time). In perspective, Lee Haney only got $80,000 for his final Olympia win that same year.
And the drop-off in prize money (at least among the top 5) wasn't as steep. For the WBF Championship (both years), it was $100K for first, $75K for 2nd, $50K for 3rd, 25K for 4th, and $15K for 5th. I don't think Kevin Levrone got $75K for his 2nd-place Olympia finish (closer to $40K or $50K).
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Indeed, not only did the IFBB offer more money to its pros, but Weider had them appear exclusively in Flex and Muscle & Fitness (just as Vince McMahon has the WBF guys only appear in his WBF Bodybuilding Lifestyles Magazine).
Plus, the prize money for the Olympia got bumped to $100,000 in 1992, after McMahon awarded $100,000 to Gary Strydom for winning the WBF Championship in 1991 (the highest prize money for a pro show at the time). In perspective, Lee Haney only got $80,000 for his final Olympia win that same year.
And the drop-off in prize money (at least among the top 5) wasn't as steep. For the WBF Championship (both years), it was $100K for first, $75K for 2nd, $50K for 3rd, 25K for 4th, and $15K for 5th. I don't think Kevin Levrone got $75K for his 2nd-place Olympia finish (closer to $40K or $50K).
I didn't know that.
That lack of steep drop-off for the WBF prize money was really good. It also irked me that a guy placing 11th at the Mr. Olympia was getting a thousand bucks...or nothing at all.
Also, MCWAY - was curious if you could show my pic to your homosexual brother-in-law and get his view?
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Quinn looked his worst ever at the final WBF show where he blamed the Anabolic Diet pushed on them by Dipasquale. I think it was the drug testing that made him look so fat and shitty because I did that diet and got ripped as Hell.
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Quinn looked his worst ever at the final WBF show where he blamed the Anabolic Diet pushed on them by Dipasquale. I think it was the drug testing that made him look so fat and shitty because I did that diet and got ripped as Hell.
The WBF had drug testing? I know the 1990 Mr. Olympia did, and basically everyone other than Labrada was down in conditioning.
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The WBF had drug testing? I know the 1990 Mr. Olympia did, and basically everyone other than Labrada was down in conditioning.
Yes, the 2nd year anyway. McMahon got busted for giving wrestlers drugs and the Feds were all over his ass. He drug tested the WWF wrestlers and the WBF bodybuilders. That is why they all looked like shit. Watch the show and every bodybuilder was smooth as a baby's butt.
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Quinn looked his worst ever at the final WBF show where he blamed the Anabolic Diet pushed on them by Dipasquale. I think it was the drug testing that made him look so fat and shitty because I did that diet and got ripped as Hell.
Personally I never liked his physique anyway
Just a drugged up Goofball
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Personally I never liked his physique anyway
Just a drugged up Goofball
There were only a few contests where I think he ever looked good. Had a real tough time not looking fat and blocky.
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Yes, the 2nd year anyway. McMahon got busted for giving wrestlers drugs and the Feds were all over his ass. He drug tested the WWF wrestlers and the WBF bodybuilders. That is why they all looked like shit. Watch the show and every bodybuilder was smooth as a baby's butt.
That was the allegation I recall.
So McMahon himself was giving his wrestlers gear? I always sort of assumed, like the IFBB, that the WWE/WWF was just allowing it / turning a blind eye.
But McMahon was closer to it than that?
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Personally I never liked his physique anyway
Just a drugged up Goofball
I think Mike looked really good on that MUSCLEMAG cover below. And the first cover, he was only 20 - maybe even 19. And with his future ahead of him on a beautiful day. And now he's gone.
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Here's a blast from the past - Mike Quinn's interview by Ron Harris:
The Black Sheep of Bodybuilding
An interview with former pro Mike Quinn
by Ron Harris
Here at T-Nation, we don't interview pro-bodybuilders unless they're willing to cut the BS and dish the dirt. Since telling the truth about steroids and crazy lifestyles isn't good for business, most of them won't talk to us until they retire from competition.
Mike Quinn doesn't really fit that mold however. He was considered a black sheep and a "bad boy" even before he retired. Many even consider this former Mr. USA and NABBA Mr. Universe to be the original bad boy of bodybuilding. Quinn got into fights and had a reputation for being hostile. He also spoke his mind and pissed off a lot of people. In short, he was fun to watch and the magazines loved him.
But by the mid-nineties, Quinn had all but disappeared from the sport. Since Mike had inspired me in the past in my bodybuilding efforts, I decided to track him down and get the whole, uncensored story.
Testosterone Nation: Mike, you had a reputation as a fighter when you were competing. Did you get into a lot of fights as a kid?
Mike Quinn: I grew up in Brockton, Massachusetts, home of Rocky Marciano and Marvin Hagler. It’s known as a pretty rough city. I was picked on a lot and got the shit beaten out of me until I was thirteen or fourteen. Then, later, I beat the fuck out of anyone that had ever beaten me up.
People have this idea that I'm some kind of bully, but the truth is that I hate bullies. The only fights I've ever been involved in were always with guys who were assholes and picked on those smaller and weaker than they were.
T-Nation: What type of kid were you?
MQ: I was a weird kid; I had a nervous condition. Technically I was mentally ill. I was basically raised by my grandfather until he died when I was eleven. I really don’t remember a whole lot from my childhood because it’s all blocked out, but mental problems aren’t unheard of in my family. Just on one side, eight of my relatives have either committed suicide or attempted it. [Note: Mike’s sister took her own life.]
Plus I have ADHD. I wonder sometimes if all the vaccinations as a kid had anything to do with it, because back then all the vaccines had mercury in them.
T-Nation: How did you get into training?
MQ: My dad had a little gym in the cellar and one day when I was thirteen, he decided it was time for me to start lifting. That first day, just messing around, I benched 220 pounds.
T-Nation: Were you already muscular?
MQ: I was a husky kid, chubby, you know? Instead of pecs I had boobs. That’s why it’s always been tough for me to get ripped. I trained at home until I was fifteen, then football kicked in. I was a really good football player and regret not going pro. I thought I was too short at 5'8" for the NFL.
But my weight training was always my therapy—where I could get all my anger out and finally relax. I'd finish a two-hour football practice, then take the bus across town to the gym and train for an hour and a half to two hours.
T-Nation: When did you know you had a gift for bodybuilding?
MQ: I actually competed in powerlifting for a while as a teenager. When I was eighteen and getting ready for a meet, I was supposed to squat 550 for five that day. I only got four reps and all of a sudden I just said, "Fuck this! I’m gonna be a bodybuilder!" Six weeks later I entered the Teen Mr. Bay State and won.
A few months after that I won the Teen Mr. Massachusetts as well as my class in the Men’s Open, and then capped it all off with the Teenage Mr. America title. Even as a teenager I was as good as most of the older guys competing in the sport.
A couple years later I took third in the Mr. America to Joe Meeko, a guy who never did anything else in the sport, but right after that I won the 1984 NABBA Universe in London, the same show that Arnold and Steve Reeves had won. Of course, when I wanted to become a professional in the IFBB they made me start all over again with state-level shows until I won the USA in ’87.
T-Nation: How were you first introduced to steroids?
MQ: The first few years I trained in a gym, my dad trained there with me and kept all the steroid dealers away from me. It’s probably the only good thing he ever did for me. But I was getting bigger and stronger all the time naturally anyway. Why would you think about steroids if everything was going so well?
Then when I was eighteen, I decided I'd try them. First I educated myself, then I went to a local doctor who would prescribe steroids to athletes in the area. My first cycle was a hundred milligrams a week each of Test and deca, three D-bols a day and four Anavar. I won my first show on that. I never used steroids to build muscle, only to hold on to muscle while I dieted.
T-Nation: Is it fair to say that there was more emphasis back then on hard training and less on the drugs you took?
MQ: To sum it up, bodybuilding in the eighties was awesome and the nineties were a huge disappointment. In the eighties, your training was the most important thing, then came diet, and the drugs were a distant third. That hierarchy seems to have reversed itself since then. Now kids will come up to me and their first question is usually how much I bench. Right after that they want to know what steroids I use. It’s so pathetic.
T-Nation: Do you think too many kids jump into using steroids these days without taking the time to build a natural base of size and strength?
MQ: Definitely, and the thing that makes no sense to me is that with all the information they can get online now, almost none of these kids are educating themselves about drugs before they start using them. They're just going by hearsay and duplicating what they think the pro’s are using. I think you have to be mentally ill these days to be a bodybuilder.
T-Nation: You were always known as a very intense trainer. Did people get frightened or intimidated by you in the gym?
MQ: All the time. In fact, it’s still hard for me now to get personal training clients because people think I’m crazy. But I've never once turned down an autograph from a fan. You have to understand that the gym is my office; it’s where I go to work.
I have ADHD, which gave me the ability to hyper-focus for short periods of time. When I was finally diagnosed, I studied the disease and how it manifests itself. Suddenly a lot of the bad decisions and impulsive behavior in my past made sense. ADHD is like a slide projector. You’re always one slide ahead of the one on the screen.
T-Nation: You also had the reputation of being bodybuilding’s "bad boy." How did that come about?
MQ: I never, ever proclaimed myself to be a "bad boy." I think it sounds stupid, really. I guess it was just the way I trained and the photos they ran of me looking so hostile. But those pictures sold. When I had my first Ironman cover, their sales doubled.
I would've been perfect for contact sports like football or hockey, but the funny thing is the myth of me being a brawler or a troublemaker became a reality. I'd go out and guys would want to start trouble with me just because of that image. I always had to be on the defensive. I was never afraid to speak my mind and I never could stand to see a bully push people around. If that makes me a bad boy, fine.
T-Nation: You struggled with a recreational drug problem for several years, correct?
MQ: It was an on and off thing. I wasn’t a drug addict. I was actually self-medicating the anxiety from my ADHD with cocaine. When I used coke, I could read, I could think straight, and I was centered. I thought it made me normal. ADHD is the opposite of ADD. You aren’t hyper-active, you’re hyper-reactive to stimuli. It’s why I had no control over my anger as a young man.
T-Nation: I assume you’re on more traditional medications for it now, right?
MQ: I was on Wellbutrin for years and it was very effective, but I could never sleep. Now I'm on Paxil for my manic depression and Stratera. I still don’t feel a hundred percent normal.
T-Nation: When was the last time you really lost your temper or had any type of physical altercation?
MQ: It was last November. This asshole — who turned out to be a little juiced-up bodybuilder — thought my wife stole his parking spot at Home Depot and started threatening her. She was scared so she called me. I was twenty-five minutes away so I told her to block his car in so he couldn’t leave.
By the time I got there he'd gone into a GNC store that was next to Home Depot. I threw that piece of shit around like a rag doll. I put him through every display in there. But I’m 42 years old now. I tore a couple of ligaments in my shoulder tossing that dirtbag around.
T-Nation: How big do you stay these days anyway?
MQ: I’m trying to get smaller, but I’m still 240. The biggest I ever got was 290, but it was very, very uncomfortable. I don’t know how these guys now can walk around like that. You take a few steps and you’re out of breath. We stayed in better shape in the 80’s and weren’t so much into this extreme bulking up. We just knew it couldn’t be healthy.
T-Nation: There was also an incident where you lost your gym over some dealings related to the mob, right?
MQ: Yeah, it was a pretty scary thing. I had two partners in my gym in Florida. One was a guy from England who owned a supplement company. The other was a chiropractor from Boca Raton. We each put a quarter million into it, and the chiropractor was supposed to get five grand a month.
I let my partner run the business, not knowing that he had a drug problem and wasn’t managing the money properly. He missed a few payments to the chiropractor. One day we got a visit from four "real" Italian men who let us know that it was really their money the chiropractor had given us, and they didn’t appreciate us not making the payments on the loan. These guys were from one of the top crime families in the USA. I got scared and signed all my shares away.
T-Nation: So you never had anything to do with the Mafia?
MQ: I had friends who were involved, but I never had any part in that stuff and never asked about that. Thank God I knew them though, because there was an incident a few years ago where a club owner in Miami wanted me dead and put a hit out on me. I made a phone call and the hit was off. The guy had smashed a tequila bottle over my head and face.
T-Nation: Nice. Why did you stop competing?
MQ: I stopped because the sport became a cult. The winners started becoming the guys with the best chemists. The only true genetic freak in the pro’s today is Ronnie Coleman. He actually turned pro when he was still clean. There’s so much bullshit and politics in the sport now. It’s all a bunch of crybabies who bitch and moan but never make a stand.
You want to get things changed? Boycott the Mr. Olympia! This is the only sport I know where the federation turns its back on athletes when they have health problems. In Europe, when a soccer player gets ill, they put on special charity matches to raise money for him.
T-Nation: Some people look at the pro’s in the magazines and assume they're getting laid like NBA stars. Do the guys get a lot of different women?
MQ: Sure, there were some guys I knew who had their share of bodybuilding groupies and it’s probably the same nowadays. I was always a one-woman type of guy, not a womanizer. Some of the guys who had a lot of different women were also swinging both ways and that still goes on too.
T-Nation: That's the rumor for sure. Let's talk drugs. Can you explain, at least from your experience, what steroids do to your sex drive? And what happens to your mojo when the cycle is over?
MQ: I can say that the older you get, the worse of a "letdown" you experience when the cycle is over. But I never had much of a problem. I’m a Scorpio and we’re known to be very virile. The only thing that's ever ruined an erection for me is stress.
I never had the wild highs and lows with the sex drive because I never abused Testosterone. A lot of guys love Test because it’s cheap and you get all the fast strength and weight gains. I never liked the way Test made me feel. I always used deca as my base and would stack that with a little Equipoise and D-bol, going six weeks on, two weeks off. The last six weeks before a contest would just be Primobolan, Winstrol-V, and a real androgenic oral like Halotestin toward the very end.
T-Nation: So you think Test is bad news for just about everybody?
MQ: It works well for some guys and not others. With me it always created a weird imbalance, probably because my body always produced plenty on its own. When you come off it, your joints stop producing synovial fluid. Another drug that’s horrible on your joints is Winstrol. I could never stay on either one of those drugs for more than four weeks at a time.
Another thing is that I always made sure to have blood work done during the cycles, not after like most guys do. If my enzymes were too high, I'd back off on the dosage. Bodybuilders need to know that they have to stop exercising for two days before a blood test or else all the waste products from training will make the liver and kidney values too high.
T-Nation: Did steroids make your temper worse?
MQ: No. The only thing that ever pissed me off was dieting. I always had to really suffer to get ripped. Now these guys just use a ton of thyroid and DNP and still eat like pigs up until the day of the show.
T-Nation: How relevant to the average guy in the gym is a training article talking about what a top-ten Mr. Olympia competitor does?
MQ: It has no relevance whatsoever. These guys are on so many drugs they can get away with training almost every day for hours. If the average guy tries to do the same thing, he'll kill himself overtraining in a week or two.
T-Nation: In your experience, are most pro’s experts on the subjects of training and nutrition?
MQ: Absolutely not. Bodybuilding at that level is pure narcissistic behavior. These guys go to very unhealthy extremes. Like this high-protein, high-fat diet so many of them are on. Number one, you get hypoglycemic from the lack of carbs. Two, your pancreas will be damaged, and three, with no fiber to help you eliminate waste, you're at a very high risk for colon cancer.
I read about all these guys now eating five hundred grams of protein a day and telling kids to do the same. How ridiculous! Nobody needs more than a gram per pound a day.
T-Nation: What else are these guys doing that’s dangerous?
MQ: Insulin! Anyone who isn’t diabetic and takes insulin just to get big is a moron. That’s why the guys are so big now, the insulin and GH, but you can’t put your organs out of balance like that and expect no long-term health problems.
These guys now eat way too much food, too. All that force-feeding ages your body really fast. They're burning out their digestive enzymes stuffing themselves every two hours. You should only eat when you’re hungry. It’s such a common sense thing, but there isn’t much common sense in bodybuilding anymore.
T-Nation: Does it shock you to see how much the drug use has increased and become more complicated since the 80’s? Would you consider it overkill?
MQ: It shocks me to see the lack of intelligence and the total disregard for health. There's no doubt in my mind these guys now are all using far more than they need to. Whenever anyone asks me about steroids, I usually tell them that I might have been insane, but I was never stupid!
T-Nation: In your day, I don’t ever recall hearing about you guys needing gurus to get into shape. Why do you think the pro’s today all seem to have them?
MQ: Well, we didn’t have gurus, but you can’t be a top bodybuilder without a great support system. I had a great training partner named Paul Fetters, my girlfriend back then, Dana Golden, helped me with my diet and Rick Valente worked with me on my posing. You need to have a few people who'll give you their honest opinions on what you look like.
I don’t really know Chad Nicholls and have never heard anything bad about him, but I have heard of guys paying him up to ten grand to get them ready for a show. That’s ridiculous. All you need to do is keep a good food log and a mirror. Just make notes as to how various types and quantities of foods affect your particular body.
T-Nation: It seems like you and the other guys from the 80’s had a lot of fun competing. Were you all friendly with each other?
MQ: It was a fun time. We were like comrades because we saw each other so much. The only guy who was hard to get to know was Richie Gaspari. He was stressed out all the time.
T-Nation: What do you think about pro’s trashing each other and threatening to kick each other’s asses?
MQ: I say if you’re really gonna kick someone’s ass, you just do it. You don’t talk about it for months and years. That’s how you know these guys are all talk. They see each other a few times a year and have plenty of chances to fight if they really wanted to.
T-Nation: Out of all the men you competed with and met, who were the biggest gentlemen and who were the biggest jerks?
MQ: Almost all the guys were real gentlemen back then: Lee Haney, Lee Labrada, Berry DeMey, Mike Christian, Ron Love, and Bob Paris. Toward the end when I was competing, two European guys, both now dead, struck me as being the same way. That was Andreas Munzer and Momo Benaziza.
The only jerk I knew from my day was Shawn Ray. I was standing next to him once when this young kid, maybe ten or eleven years old, walks up with his mom to Shawn. The kid's mom says her son has Shawn’s pictures up all over his bedroom wall and would love an autograph. Shawn just blew him off and walked away. I felt so bad I gave him one of my photos and signed it. Later I got a letter from the mom saying her son had torn down all of Shawn’s pictures and put mine up.
T-Nation: Are you still a fan of bodybuilding? If so, who are your favorite guys on the circuit today?
MQ: I am a fan, yes. I like Ronnie Coleman a lot. He reminds me a lot of Lee Haney with his natural, easy going spirituality. Plus he was a police officer all those years, so obviously he's the type of guy who likes to help people. I'm also a big fan of Darrem Charles. He’s one guy who's really paid his dues. Most people don’t know that for years, even as a pro, he was totally natural.
T-Nation: What are you up to these days?
MQ: I started a supplement line called Lifestyle Essentials. The target market is the mainstream. It’s not a bodybuilding supplement line and my name and image will never appear in the marketing. I'm negotiating with GNC now to carry the line. You can find out about the products at www.healthyeffects.com.
T-Nation: The last time I spoke with you over a year ago, you were considering the Masters Olympia. Is that still a possibility or have you changed your mind about that?
MQ: Yeah, there’s no way I'd do it now. If I were to use steroids and growth hormone now, I'd do it legally through a life extension clinic, so it would end up costing me thirty grand to get ready for a show with a first prize of ten thousand dollars. It just doesn’t add up.
T-Nation: If you were starting out in bodybuilding nowadays, would you still want to be a pro?
MQ: No. I'd train for my own health and satisfaction, but the extremes the sport has gone to with the drugs and the diet are something I'd never want any part of.
T-Nation: Thanks for the candid talk, Mike.
MQ: Anytime, Ron!
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Still one of my favorite skits, very campy -
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=354244.0;attach=959259;image).
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There were only a few contests where I think he ever looked good. Had a real tough time not looking fat and blocky.
He looked “cool”, the kind of look that made a young kid wanna start bodybuilding
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=354244.0;attach=959259;image).
Rumor has it that Joe Weider had those Rottweilers fuck him before they took those photos which is why he looked so pissed
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I didn't know that.
That lack of steep drop-off for the WBF prize money was really good. It also irked me that a guy placing 11th at the Mr. Olympia was getting a thousand bucks...or nothing at all.
Also, MCWAY - was curious if you could show my pic to your homosexual brother-in-law and get his view?
WTF? This just came out of left field....
This will not age well.
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I didn't know that.
That lack of steep drop-off for the WBF prize money was really good. It also irked me that a guy placing 11th at the Mr. Olympia was getting a thousand bucks...or nothing at all.
Also, MCWAY - was curious if you could show my pic to your homosexual brother-in-law and get his view?
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=685410.0;attach=1444413;image)
His view will be from the rear
;D
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Quinn looked his worst ever at the final WBF show where he blamed the Anabolic Diet pushed on them by Dipasquale. I think it was the drug testing that made him look so fat and shitty because I did that diet and got ripped as Hell.
Yeah, he said he didn't respond well to the high fat low carb approach. I think he just couldn't handle it. The craze in the 80's was low fat, high carb. And, as you also said, he had a tendency to look fat even when in relatively good shape. I think he just couldn't handle the initial discomfort of no carbs. He looked pretty good in the drug tested Mr.Olympua not his best shape but comparatively speaking to the other guys who were way off at that show. Then he went to the WBF and Im pretty sure all the wbf shows were drug tested which would've been 91 and 92. So he was trying to stay in shape while as little gear as possible to be able to pass drug testing for 3 years straight. By the last year he looked like shit. Danny Padilla was almost as bad at his wbf shows too. Just embarrassing. They had him acting like a munchkin during his routine. LOL the stage was set up with giant mushroom props. It was disgraceful.
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WTF? This just came out of left field....
This will not age well.
Of course not, especially since Matt doesn't have his facts straight (pun intended).
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Yeah, he said he didn't respond well to the high fat low carb approach. I think he just couldn't handle it. The craze in the 80's was low fat, high carb. And, as you also said, he had a tendency to look fat even when in relatively good shape. I think he just couldn't handle the initial discomfort of no carbs. He looked pretty good in the drug tested Mr.Olympua not his best shape but comparatively speaking to the other guys who were way off at that show. Then he went to the WBF and Im pretty sure all the wbf shows were drug tested which would've been 91 and 92. So he was trying to stay in shape while as little gear as possible to be able to pass drug testing for 3 years straight. By the last year he looked like shit. Danny Padilla was almost as bad at his wbf shows too. Just embarrassing. They had him acting like a munchkin during his routine. LOL the stage was set up with giant mushroom props. It was disgraceful.
The 1991 show wasn't tested, just the 1992 one. Incidentally, once the testing started, a certain bodybuilder-turned-TV-star-turned-bodybuilder-again decided to leave the WBF.
Guys like Tony Pearson claimed McMahon had Dr. Mauro Dipasquale test the WBF guys for everything but the kitchen sink. And anyone who got popped lost a month's check but they still got to compete at the show Take Mike Christian, who lost $25K, but still did the 1992 Championship. I said he looked like a crackhead, compared to the previous year, where he placed 2nd to Strydom. It turns out I was right. He literally was a crackhead.
To me, Aaron Baker was the most controversial. He was the only one who looked bigger in 1992 than he did in 1991. Everyone else (including Strydom) was smaller and/or smoother. But Baker and J.Quinn respectively won the USA and North American Championships in 1990, the one year those shows were drug-tested. Perhaps, there was less of a shock to their systems when they had to forgo the anabolics for the WBF.
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His view will be from the rear
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Lol, yes - MCWAY's homosexual brother-in-law would like that!
He complimented MCWAY's delts. I'm curious if what he thinks of mine.
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Mike Quinn competed on the same stage as: Haney, Strydom, Yates, Coleman, Nasser, Dillett, Levrone, Taylor, Samir, Christian, Paris, Benfatto, Demey, Ray, Cormier, Francois, Munzer, Love, Labrada, and Beckles.
Not too many bodybuilders today can say that.
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Lol, yes - MCWAY's homosexual brother-in-law would like that!
He complimented MCWAY's delts. I'm curious if what he thinks of mine.
Still as right as two left shoes, as my brother-in-law is neither gay nor did he compliment my delts at any time.
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The 1991 show wasn't tested, just the 1992 one. Incidentally, once the testing started, a certain bodybuilder-turned-TV-star-turned-bodybuilder-again decided to leave the WBF.
Guys like Tony Pearson claimed McMahon had Dr. Mauro Dipasquale test the WBF guys for everything but the kitchen sink. And anyone who got popped lost a month's check but they still got to compete at the show Take Mike Christian, who lost $25K, but still did the 1992 Championship. I said he looked like a crackhead, compared to the previous year, where he placed 2nd to Strydom. It turns out I was right. He literally was a crackhead.
To me, Aaron Baker was the most controversial. He was the only one who looked bigger in 1992 than he did in 1991. Everyone else (including Strydom) was smaller and/or smoother. But Baker and J.Quinn respectively won the USA and North American Championships in 1990, the one year those shows were drug-tested. Perhaps, there was less of a shock to their systems when they had to forgo the anabolics for the WBF.
According to David Dearth, a lot of the WBF guys we’re into cocaine back then.. including the Flying Dutchman
Christian in 1992
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Still as right as two left shoes, as my brother-in-law is neither gay nor did he compliment my delts at any time.
Did you forget your own post below?
Speaking of traps, I've been motivated to train mine more, after my brother-in-law complimented me on mine, during a family get-together.
Is your memory failing you, MCWAY?
Please show your bender-in-law my rear double biceps shot. I need motivation for tonight's delts workout!
Thanks MCWAY.
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MQ: "Almost all the guys were real gentlemen back then: Lee Haney, Lee Labrada, Berry DeMey, Mike Christian, Ron Love, and Bob Paris. Toward the end when I was competing, two European guys, both now dead, struck me as being the same way. That was Andreas Munzer and Momo Benaziza."
Berry DeMey:
"We just did our last contest (Italy) of about 7 in a row right after the Mr Olympia in 1988 (European Grand Prix Tour). Went straight to the pizzeria. This was our best ab shot an hour later"
The camaraderie in this picture shows. Did we see that in later generations?
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=685410.0;attach=1444554;image)
that looks like todays first call out
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He sure looks like Robin Bosic that guy or vice versa. Heś a former friend from the gym to me and VanBilderass that made it as a porn star....RobDiesel.
Remeber he was offended when we said he looked like Quinn like it was a dizz. Quinn sure looked solid and good old Diesel only takes him in the fucking department, Not that bad either way!
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Did you forget your own post below?
Is your memory failing you, MCWAY?
You do realize that traps and delts are two different body parts/muscle groups, right?
Please show your bender-in-law my rear double biceps shot. I need motivation for tonight's delts workout!
Thanks MCWAY.
And it appears you're projecting again, as you're into the gay stuff, not me nor my brother-in-law.
Now, if you're done with the foolishness, it's back to the subject at hand, the late Mighty Mike Quinn.
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WBF Magazine 1991
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~tYAAOSwSDVig~Iz/s-l1600.jpg)
IronMan 1994, after he qualified for the Olympia (where he claimed he was in the running for top 6, with Flex Wheeler not competing).
(https://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/im/im5310.jpg)
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According to David Dearth, a lot of the WBF guys we’re into cocaine back then.. including the Flying Dutchman
Christian in 1992
Christian was another guy who looked great at the drug tested Mr. O. He actually looked about his best ever. In another interview Quinn speculated that Christian found a good masking agent.
Quinn also claimed the WBF didn't test Strydom but everybody was tested multiple times.
And Ive read/heard several stories about Demey being a party animal. Just a pussy slayer and loved "party favors"
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Both the drug tested Olympia and the WBF show you could beat the test if you only used test and hgh basically came down to who looked good on that stack and could manage to hold their look while they got their levels to low enough to beat the test.
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Christian was another guy who looked great at the drug tested Mr. O. He actually looked about his best ever. In another interview Quinn speculated that Christian found a good masking agent.
Quinn also claimed the WBF didn't test Strydom but everybody was tested multiple times.
And Ive read/heard several stories about Demey being a party animal. Just a pussy slayer and loved "party favors"
Eddie Robinson, Tony Pearson, and Jim Quinn claimed everyone got tested, including Strydom. Quinn maintains that he and Strydom still kept decent size and condition because they DID NOT follow Dipasquale's diet and they were nearly three bills each before the testing started.
That allowed them to look the way they did, even though both were smaller than they were in 1991.
Both the drug tested Olympia and the WBF show you could beat the test if you only used test and hgh basically came down to who looked good on that stack and could manage to hold their look while they got their levels to low enough to beat the test.
Who beat the test in the WBF? The guys who got popped (i.e. Christian and M. Quinn) got fined a month's pay but they were still allowed to do the WBF show. They only had 13 guys as it was after Ferrigno left once the testing started; and "The Phoenix" Vince Comeford was out with pneumonia. Thus, they were down to 12.
Dipasquale claimed, during the intermission of the 1992 WBF Championship, that his test could detect growth hormone and clenbuterol. He could also do a "hormonal profile" to detect the use of testosterone, even if it didn't show up in the urine. I didn't know it at the time. But, I think he's referring to the T:E ratio thing. Isn't it 6:1 (or greater) means you're using exogenous testosterone?
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Eddie Robinson, Tony Pearson, and Jim Quinn claimed everyone got tested, including Strydom. Quinn maintains that he and Strydom still kept decent size and condition because they DID NOT follow Dipasquale's diet and they were nearly three bills each before the testing started.
That allowed them to look the way they did, even though both were smaller than they were in 1991.
Who beat the test in the WBF? The guys who got popped (i.e. Christian and M. Quinn) got fined a month's pay but they were still allowed to do the WBF show. They only had 13 guys as it was after Ferrigno left once the testing started; and "The Phoenix" Vince Comeford was out with pneumonia. Thus, they were down to 12.
Dipasquale claimed, during the intermission of the 1992 WBF Championship, that his test could detect growth hormone and clenbuterol. He could also do a "hormonal profile" to detect the use of testosterone, even if it didn't show up in the urine. I didn't know it at the time. But, I think he's referring to the T:E ratio thing. Isn't it 6:1 (or greater) means you're using exogenous testosterone?
I give you major props, your schmoemeter is top notch, great memory/knowledge about bbing, how do you remember everything down to the small details
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You do realize that traps and delts are two different body parts/muscle groups, right?
Yes, I know.
I slightly misremembered a year+ old post. Go figure.
Did did you remember when your gay brother-in-law complimented your traps?
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The 1991 show wasn't tested, just the 1992 one. Incidentally, once the testing started, a certain bodybuilder-turned-TV-star-turned-bodybuilder-again decided to leave the WBF.
Guys like Tony Pearson claimed McMahon had Dr. Mauro Dipasquale test the WBF guys for everything but the kitchen sink. And anyone who got popped lost a month's check but they still got to compete at the show Take Mike Christian, who lost $25K, but still did the 1992 Championship. I said he looked like a crackhead, compared to the previous year, where he placed 2nd to Strydom. It turns out I was right. He literally was a crackhead.
To me, Aaron Baker was the most controversial. He was the only one who looked bigger in 1992 than he did in 1991. Everyone else (including Strydom) was smaller and/or smoother. But Baker and J.Quinn respectively won the USA and North American Championships in 1990, the one year those shows were drug-tested. Perhaps, there was less of a shock to their systems when they had to forgo the anabolics for the WBF.
Drugs were just the finishing touch for them.
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Personally I never liked his physique anyway
Just a drugged up Goofball
Bro...
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RIP Mike.
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Yes, I know.
I slightly misremembered a year+ old post. Go figure.
Did did you remember when your gay brother-in-law complimented your traps?
You also "misremembered" that my brother-in-law is nowhere near gay. You're projecting again.
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I give you major props, your schmoemeter is top notch, great memory/knowledge about bbing, how do you remember everything down to the small details
Magazines and video tapes. I have them in my collection. When you don't rely solely on the internet, it's harder for folks to revise history on you.
I ordered the WBF championship back in 1992 ($15 at the time). One gander at that show and you'll see why the IFBB isn't serious about testing for anabolics. When you constantly test everyone for nearly everything, you're going to get smaller and smoother guys. And it's going to take awhile for them to get back in shape drug-free.
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I wanna know why he died, overdose?
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true story
when his sister died- i think she killed herself I was about 15/16 but obsessed with the gym
I airmialied a letter to him saying how sad it was and to keep training har din her memory
he sent me a letter thanking him
I was 10 feet tall that day!
I always remember his posing routine with the mighty quinn music
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MQ:
"The only jerk I knew from my day was Shawn Ray. I was standing next to him once when this young kid, maybe ten or eleven years old, walks up with his mom to Shawn. The kid's mom says her son has Shawn’s pictures up all over his bedroom wall and would love an autograph. Shawn just blew him off and walked away. I felt so bad I gave him one of my photos and signed it. Later I got a letter from the mom saying her son had torn down all of Shawn’s pictures and put mine up."
true story
when his sister died- i think she killed herself I was about 15/16 but obsessed with the gym
I airmialied a letter to him saying how sad it was and to keep training har din her memory
he sent me a letter thanking him
I was 10 feet tall that day!
I always remember his posing routine with the mighty quinn music
Mike was good for the sport and treated young fans right. 8)
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Magazines and video tapes. I have them in my collection. When you don't rely solely on the internet, it's harder for folks to revise history on you.
I ordered the WBF championship back in 1992 ($15 at the time). One gander at that show and you'll see why the IFBB isn't serious about testing for anabolics. When you constantly test everyone for nearly everything, you're going to get smaller and smoother guys. And it's going to take awhile for them to get back in shape drug-free.
Yep, drugs are just a HUGE finishing touch.
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Yep, drugs are just a HUGE finishing touch.
It's not like they turned into Pee-Wee Herman or Chris Rock (New Jack City version). They were smallER and smoothER. But, they're still big guys.
You could say we got a preview of what the WBF championship would be, when the Ultimate Warrior returned at WM8, about 25 lbs lighter and smoother.
When I said Christian looked like a crackhead, that's relative to how he looked the previous year. Again, he literally was one. But, that's another story.
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It's not like they turned into Pee-Wee Herman or Chris Rock (New Jack City version). They were smallER and smoothER. But, they're still big guys.
You could say we got a preview of what the WBF championship would be, when the Ultimate Warrior returned at WM8, about 25 lbs lighter and smoother.
When I said Christian looked like a crackhead, that's relative to how he looked the previous year. Again, he literally was one. But, that's another story.
Yeah, but it's not like they are lifetime natties either. They probably quit using a few weeks before the testing so they would pass and only used water based injectables and orals.
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I airmailed a letter to him saying how sad it was and to keep training hard in her memory.
Outed
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It's not like they turned into Pee-Wee Herman or Chris Rock (New Jack City version). They were smallER and smoothER. But, they're still big guys.
You could say we got a preview of what the WBF championship would be, when the Ultimate Warrior returned at WM8, about 25 lbs lighter and smoother.
When I said Christian looked like a crackhead, that's relative to how he looked the previous year. Again, he literally was one. But, that's another story.
Re: Mike Christian - wasn't the masking agent called 'Defend'? Anyone know the active ingredient(s)?
Also, I saw a Palumbo clip earlier this week where he said (I'm paraphrasing a little) that when you come off the juice, as long as you keep eating and training right you won't lose muscle cuz you've built the foundation ... ::) It was about the Liver King I think
Edit: yep
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Re: Mike Christian - wasn't the masking agent called 'Defend'? Anyone know the active ingredient(s)?
Also, I saw a Palumbo clip earlier this week where he said (I'm paraphrasing a little) that when you come off the juice, as long as you keep eating and training right you won't lose muscle cuz you've built the foundation ... ::) It was about the Liver King I think
Edit: yep
Liver King is not off the juice though... he never was. Just went on cruise doses for a few months, then dropped the natty bullshit altogether.
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Palumbo looks like a corpse with Botox, transplanted hair and veneers.
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Is it to soon to ask if Quinn is still dead?
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Palumbo looks like a corpse with Botox, transplanted hair and veneers.
And lets not forget the pacemaker, stent(s) and half removed thyroid gland
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^^^^Rich Roy trained at my old gym with Jeff King.....trivia Tim. :)
Thanks to John Hansen for the videos.
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Yeah, but it's not like they are lifetime natties either. They probably quit using a few weeks before the testing so they would pass and only used water based injectables and orals.
I know that. But, they were fairly big before they started using anabolics. They didn't go from twigs to titans with a few syringes.
Per Tony Pearson's account, they were being tested routinely, even doing blood tests.
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If they got popped, they still did the '92 show; they just lost a month's pay.
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Re: Mike Christian - wasn't the masking agent called 'Defend'? Anyone know the active ingredient(s)?
Also, I saw a Palumbo clip earlier this week where he said (I'm paraphrasing a little) that when you come off the juice, as long as you keep eating and training right you won't lose muscle cuz you've built the foundation ... ::) It was about the Liver King I think
Edit: yep
The whole allegation with Christian using the masking agent, Defend, was with regards to the 1990 Mr. Olympia. Eddie Robinson claimed that some competitors were crystallizing their urine with masking agents into sugar (he did NOT mention Christian specifically).
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true story
when his sister died- i think she killed herself I was about 15/16 but obsessed with the gym
I airmialied a letter to him saying how sad it was and to keep training har din her memory
he sent me a letter thanking him
I was 10 feet tall that day!
I always remember his posing routine with the mighty quinn music
Little stuff like this is the kind of thing a kid will remember for the rest of their life. Super cool to hear, thanks for sharing 8)
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I know that. But, they were fairly big before they started using anabolics. They didn't go from twigs to titans with a few syringes.
Per Tony Pearson's account, they were being tested routinely, even doing blood tests.
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If they got popped, they still did the '92 show; they just lost a month's pay.
Tony there looks like a post-Dairy Queen turd.
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Tony there looks like a post-Dairy Queen turd.
This was from 2016, I believe. Pearson would go on to win the 2020 AAU Masters Mr. Universe.
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I know that. But, they were fairly big before they started using anabolics. They didn't go from twigs to titans with a few syringes.
Per Tony Pearson's account, they were being tested routinely, even doing blood tests.
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If they got popped, they still did the '92 show; they just lost a month's pay.
Before gear majority of the pros were all skinny twigs, dexter, flex, Levrone, dick Walker, Nasser, ruhl, etc….
All have good response to anabolics but most were short skinny guys, the ideal imo before gear
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I know that. But, they were fairly big before they started using anabolics. They didn't go from twigs to titans with a few syringes.
Per Tony Pearson's account, they were being tested routinely, even doing blood tests.
13:35
If they got popped, they still did the '92 show; they just lost a month's pay.
Pearson looks like he weighs 150lbs! :-[
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Pearson looks like he weighs 150lbs! :-[
Tiny joints, great muscle tie-ins, extremely youthful skin.
His muscles looks rounder than his prime days.
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Tony Pearson is interesting to listen to. Bodybuilders from previous era’s had good personalities and are worth listening to.
I cannot remember the last time that I could withstand a recent pro’s, cliche interview.
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Tiny joints, great muscle tie-ins, extremely youthful skin.
His muscles looks rounder than his prime days.
Except for maybe his WBF days.
Again, he claims that (unlike Mighty Mike Quinn), he didn't lose any money in 1992.
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Except for maybe his WBF days.
Again, he claims that (unlike Mighty Mike Quinn), he didn't lose any money in 1992.
Tony p looked better drug free yr ???
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Tony p looked better drug free yr ???
He claimed he hadn't use any anabolics since 1990.
Plus, in 1992, he's not as big as he was in 1991.
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Tiny joints, great muscle tie-ins, extremely youthful skin.
His muscles looks rounder than his prime days.
Great genetics for aging.
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Great genetics for aging.
He's been competing for about 40 years. I'd say he knows a thing or two about training and nutrition, too.
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Tony there looks like a post-Dairy Queen turd.
Now that made my day hahahaha.
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Tony there looks like a post-Dairy Queen turd.
Exactly. A variation of Mr. Hanky. Not Hankins, Southpark.
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So ............... what did Mike die from?
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He's been competing for about 40 years. I'd say he knows a thing or two about training and nutrition, too.
I respect guys like him who keep training into old age and look great. Not a shell of themselves and broken down. Vince Taylor is another.