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Title: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 26, 2023, 11:12:07 PM
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: IroNat on June 27, 2023, 04:41:08 AM
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Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: loco on June 27, 2023, 04:48:52 AM
Dementia can be like getting drunk and spilling the beans.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 27, 2023, 05:48:45 AM
“I post a lot of bullshit “ - Qoach Todd
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: The Gov on June 27, 2023, 06:55:43 AM
“I post a lot of bullshit “ - Qoach Todd

you groom a lot - groomingforboys
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 27, 2023, 12:25:14 PM
"Welll...At least he didn't shit himself like with the Pope. He's mentally all there, he just had jetlag and ate bad curry." - Lurker, etc
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on June 27, 2023, 12:47:08 PM


I will give you this Coach, because of your personal experience of being afflicted with a diminished capacity, degenerative brain disease, you have evolved into something of an expert on this matter when it comes to diagnosing others, such as President Biden.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 27, 2023, 01:14:48 PM
"Well I just can't stop making weak ass excuses and whining about the Lurker guy.  He's in my head again." - someparts
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 27, 2023, 01:44:24 PM
I will give you this Coach, because of your personal experience of being afflicted with a diminished capacity, degenerative brain disease, you have evolved into something of an expert on this matter when it comes to diagnosing others, such as President Biden.

So what you’re saying, is you have nothing or are you trying to say he didn’t say it even though he’s right there in the video, saying it? Lol.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: IroNat on June 27, 2023, 02:47:03 PM
Prime loves Joe no matter what.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: illuminati on June 27, 2023, 02:57:37 PM
Freudian slip ?

That was a very strange statement for him to say,
Even by Pedo Pete's standards.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on June 27, 2023, 03:30:56 PM
Prime loves Joe no matter what.

Honestly, 'love' is a little strong. 'Preferred' given the other choices in 2020 would be closer to the truth. My jury is still out on the 2024 campaign. Although I will likely vote for a Democrat, it will not be Robert Kennedy Jr. because among other issues, due to his having spasmodic dysphonia, I cannot understand a word he says. This may be a good thing since I think he is full of bull. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 27, 2023, 04:12:35 PM
Honestly, 'love' is a little strong. 'Preferred' given the other choices in 2020 would be closer to the truth. My jury is still out on the 2024 campaign. Although I will likely vote for a Democrat, it will not be Robert Kennedy Jr. because among other issues, due to his having spasmodic dysphonia, I cannot understand a word he says. This may be a good thing since I think he is full of bull.

If course you wouldn’t vote for the most logical choice…he’s not a Marxist.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on June 27, 2023, 04:19:53 PM
Honestly, 'love' is a little strong. 'Preferred' given the other choices in 2020 would be closer to the truth. My jury is still out on the 2024 campaign. Although I will likely vote for a Democrat, it will not be Robert Kennedy Jr. because among other issues, due to his having spasmodic dysphonia, I cannot understand a word he says. This may be a good thing since I think he is full of bull.
Maybe you just shouldn't vote. Your senility could compromise your decision making abilities.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 27, 2023, 05:33:48 PM
"Well I just can't stop making weak ass excuses and whining about the Lurker guy.  He's in my head again." - someparts


In your dreams, strawboy.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 27, 2023, 06:55:44 PM

In your dreams, strawboy.

No.  But obviously in yours.  Creepy ass little bitch.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2023, 06:06:32 AM
So whats the excuse from the lib fags on this one?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2023, 06:40:06 AM
Honestly, 'love' is a little strong. 'Preferred' given the other choices in 2020 would be closer to the truth. My jury is still out on the 2024 campaign. Although I will likely vote for a Democrat, it will not be Robert Kennedy Jr. because among other issues, due to his having spasmodic dysphonia, I cannot understand a word he says. This may be a good thing since I think he is full of bull.

Please - you would vote for Hitler, Stalin, or Mao as long as they have a D next to their name!  Stop lying. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 28, 2023, 07:04:13 AM



You and others do this shit on purpose.   You know that he said "Now All Kidding Aside" afterwards.    You already knew that but you tried to run with it   
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2023, 07:06:28 AM

You and others do this shit on purpose.   You know that he said "Now All Kidding Aside" afterwards.    You already knew that but you tried to run with it

You honestly believe that!!!   GTFO!!!   Did you watch that video.  That is an old man with a few moments of lucidity mixed in with dementia and alzheimers.   Holy F bro   
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 28, 2023, 07:13:03 AM
I don't give a flying fuck.

If someone committed a crime, they need to account for it.  Whether that be prison time or not.  And it doesn't matter if it's a current or former president.   

They must go through the due process of law.  Quips, hearsay, or gaffs aren't enough.  There must be tangible evidence of a crime.  If Joe Biden did sell "a lot of state secrets" then it must be proven in a court of law.  Simply posting vid of him saying it is not enough. 

Whatever comes of the Trump charges, if he is found guilty, he needs to spend time in prison period. 

Our choices for president have sucked ass for many terms.  Our government is like a Jerry Springer show. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2023, 07:14:05 AM
I don't give a flying fuck.

If someone committed a crime, they need to account for it.  Whether that be prison time or not.  And it doesn't matter if it's a current or former president.   

They must go through the due process of law.  Quips, hearsay, or gaffs aren't enough.  There must be tangible evidence of a crime.  If Joe Biden did sell "a lot of state secrets" then it must be proven in a court of law.  Simply posting vid of him saying it is not enough. 

Whatever comes of the Trump charges, if he is found guilty, he needs to spend time in prison period. 

Our choices for president have sucked ass for many terms.  Our government is like a Jerry Springer show.

Welcome from hibernation - there is evidence of it!   TENS OF MILLIONS IN WIRES FROM ROMANIA, UKRAINE, CHINA, ETC
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 28, 2023, 07:15:19 AM
You honestly believe that!!!   GTFO!!!   Did you watch that video.  That is an old man with a few moments of lucidity mixed in with dementia and alzheimers.   Holy F bro

Yeah, maybe his handlers are running the country.  What' going to happen if he runs in 2024 and gets elected????
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 28, 2023, 07:18:23 AM
Welcome from hibernation - there is evidence of it!   TENS OF MILLIONS IN WIRES FROM ROMANIA, UKRAINE, CHINA, ETC

I am just too busy most of the time.  lol

There are plenty of entities involved in government that can argue charges based on solid evidence.  So many people stand to gain from bringing Joe and the Dems down that I would think that if there was good enough evidence or enough suspicion to order "discovery" it would have already been done.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 28, 2023, 07:26:28 AM
So whats the excuse from the lib fags on this one?

How does his Xmas ornaments look?  Or how does Jill look in a sleeveless gown?  Isn't that what is really important to you?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2023, 07:39:02 AM
I am just too busy most of the time.  lol

There are plenty of entities involved in government that can argue charges based on solid evidence.  So many people stand to gain from bringing Joe and the Dems down that I would think that if there was good enough evidence or enough suspicion to order "discovery" it would have already been done.

The bank records and multiple whistle blowers and business partners have already been made public.  Good job ignoring it all.   Go back to bed.     
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Gym Rat on June 28, 2023, 08:33:50 AM
So what you’re saying, is you have nothing or are you trying to say he didn’t say it even though he’s right there in the video, saying it? Lol.

Prime has nothing. He's a dumb libturd kvnt who scarped little kids feces off of toilet bowls. (Prolly used his tongue).
I tried to like the guy, but he's horribly unlikable, and sucks cock while wife is on death-bed.
A true, scum of a libturd...
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 28, 2023, 10:30:07 AM
No.  But obviously in yours.  Creepy ass little bitch.


You're just one notch below Shizzo when it comes to thinking your posts matter here. You've never said anything of consequence that I can recall. It's mostly reciting the liberal 24 hour news cycle that most men miss and some confuse that with your opinion.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 28, 2023, 10:41:11 AM

You and others do this shit on purpose.   You know that he said "Now All Kidding Aside" afterwards.    You already knew that but you tried to run with it


LOL at that Stockholm Syndrome...


Would love to see you debate JLP.

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 28, 2023, 10:47:28 AM

You and others do this shit on purpose.   You know that he said "Now All Kidding Aside" afterwards.    You already knew that but you tried to run with it

Bullshit. He said exactly what he thought and tried to back track it. Fuckin’ Trump was fake impeached on a nothing phone call that EVERYONE heard. Imagine if this was Trump that said that. Wake up, Vince. Biden should have been executed long ago for Treason
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: illuminati on June 28, 2023, 10:59:27 AM
Is Pedo Pete still going to have the bridge built ?

Oh & according to Pedo Pete Russia is losing the war against Iraq   :o
I must've missed Russia being at war with Iraq, !!
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on June 28, 2023, 11:06:11 AM



He can walk and talk just fine.  Like everyone doesn’t trip.  ::)

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 28, 2023, 11:21:07 AM
The bank records and multiple whistle blowers and business partners have already been made public.  Good job ignoring it all.   Go back to bed.     

What difference would it make if I did pay total attention to it?  I am not a prosecutor or have any capacity to levy a charge.

However those who do (people with the money and political gain to move forward with a charge), haven't, and I suspect it's because there isn't enough evidence regardless of whatever "truths" you may be getting from the internet.

I can figure all that out while still in bed.   8)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2023, 11:22:58 AM
What difference would it make if I did pay total attention to it?  I am not a prosecutor or have any capacity to levy a charge.

However those who do (people with the money and political gain to move forward with a charge), haven't, and I suspect it's because there isn't enough evidence regardless of whatever "truths" you may be getting from the internet.

I can figure all that out while still in bed.   8)

For F sake are you blind - the NYT just came out today and corroborated the whistleblowers story.   The DA wanted to go forward and was down by DOJ in DC!   

WTF is wrong with you.  Commenting on something you clearly are completely ignorant of   
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: The Gov on June 28, 2023, 01:19:52 PM

You're just one notch below Shizzo when it comes to thinking your posts matter here. You've never said anything of consequence that I can recall. It's mostly reciting the liberal 24 hour news cycle that most men miss and some confuse that with your opinion.

worse is that lurkingforBoys has to use 5-6 gimmicks to respond to himself so that all of us here degrade and humiliate him every single day.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: illuminati on June 28, 2023, 01:24:25 PM
worse is that lurkingforBoys has to use 5-6 gimmicks to respond to himself so that all of us here degrade and humiliate him every single day.

Very strange individual that's for sure -
Seems to be Universally disliked on here - yet stay's & comes back for more.  ::)

Maybe it's sexually gratifying to him being Humiliated & Verbally Abused daily.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 28, 2023, 02:57:20 PM

You're just one notch below Shizzo when it comes to thinking your posts matter here. You've never said anything of consequence that I can recall. It's mostly reciting the liberal 24 hour news cycle that most men miss and some confuse that with your opinion.

And yet here you are responding to them.  Obviously they matter to you.   :'(
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 28, 2023, 02:59:33 PM


Awww.....   are you mad because he has more state secrets, bigger state secrets, more beautiful state secrets, and best state secrets, than your orange hero?

Or are you just whining again?

One thing that isn't debatable is that Biden's talk isn't going to come back and bite him in the ass over state secrets like Trumpys.   :)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 28, 2023, 03:03:23 PM
I seem to be liked more than a pretender "killer" and a fake US citizen. 

Or a 60+ year old geriatric liar whose life is so pathetic he has to make up stories to impress internet strangers and has to talk to another foreign twat with multiple gimmicks devoted all to me.  Maybe you can ask if he can whip out his gay muslim gimmick again soon.  Just for old time's sake.   
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 28, 2023, 03:03:41 PM
For F sake are you blind - the NYT just came out today and corroborated the whistleblowers story.   The DA wanted to go forward and was down by DOJ in DC!   

WTF is wrong with you.  Commenting on something you clearly are completely ignorant of

WTF does it matter what the NYT says?  When the NYT says something you don't agree with you all accuse them of being biased.  Now all of a sudden they are not and instead are a legit new source?  It doesn't fucking matter what the NYT says. 

If there is credible evidence for a charge, the DOJ will be compelled to act. 

If they are compromised, then we are all beyond FUCKED so long ago it doesn't matter anymore. 

Maybe post a link to this story?

I need to go back to bed soon.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2023, 03:05:47 PM
WTF does it matter what the NYT says?  When the NYT says something you don't agree with you all accuse them of being biased.  Now all of a sudden they are not and instead are a legit new source?  It doesn't fucking matter what the NYT says. 

If there is credible evidence for a charge, the DOJ will be compelled to act. 

If they are compromised, then we are all beyond FUCKED so long ago it doesn't matter anymore.

Lol.   Go back away.   The DOJ is the one who obstructed it.    That’s the entire basis of the issue.    Blind as a bat.  Holy f are you clueless as to the basic details of this.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 28, 2023, 03:06:16 PM
WTF does it matter what the NYT says?  When the NYT says something you don't agree with you all accuse them of being biased.  Now all of a sudden they are not and instead are a legit new source?  It doesn't fucking matter what the NYT says. 

If there is credible evidence for a charge, the DOJ will be compelled to act. 

If they are compromised, then we are all beyond FUCKED so long ago it doesn't matter anymore. 

Maybe post a link to this story?

I need to go back to bed soon.

Beyond comprehension.   The "lock em up" crowd just can't stand when it actually seems to be happening to their side.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 28, 2023, 03:06:49 PM
Awww.....   are you mad because he has more state secrets, bigger state secrets, more beautiful state secrets, and best state secrets, than your orange hero?

Or are you just whining again?

One thing that isn't debatable is that Biden's talk isn't going to come back and bite him in the ass over state secrets like Trumpys.   :)

Guess which end of the spectrum your boy sits…hint. It ain’t the fine

18 U.S.C § 2381, states that a person guilty of treason against the United States “shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 28, 2023, 03:10:15 PM
Guess which end of the spectrum your boy sits…hint. It ain’t the fine



That makes absolutely no sense either.  Are you having another stroke?  Or is basic English just a struggle for you.

As for the rest of your post....  It isn't Biden melting down daily over the indictments and future penalties.  That is your cheetos grifter doing that.   :)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on June 28, 2023, 09:05:14 PM
WTF does it matter what the NYT says?  When the NYT says something you don't agree with you all accuse them of being biased.  Now all of a sudden they are not and instead are a legit new source?  It doesn't fucking matter what the NYT says. 

If there is credible evidence for a charge, the DOJ will be compelled to act. 

If they are compromised, then we are all beyond FUCKED so long ago it doesn't matter anymore. 

Maybe post a link to this story?

I need to go back to bed soon.

Part of the reason they get away with this stuff is because smart people like you are too busy or just not interested in getting into the weeds.  If you did, you would be shocked at how corrupt these people are. 

Think about this and provide your take if you are willing:  what is the innocent explanation for the Biden family setting up 20 limited liability companies for the sole purpose of receiving about $20M (probably more) from foreign individuals and entities?  The Biden family doesn't have a business.  They don't provide a product or service.  They were just collecting bags of cash. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 29, 2023, 07:26:42 AM
Part of the reason they get away with this stuff is because smart people like you are too busy or just not interested in getting into the weeds.  If you did, you would be shocked at how corrupt these people are. 

Think about this and provide your take if you are willing:  what is the innocent explanation for the Biden family setting up 20 limited liability companies for the sole purpose of receiving about $20M (probably more) from foreign individuals and entities?  The Biden family doesn't have a business.  They don't provide a product or service.  They were just collecting bags of cash.

Lol.   Go back away.   The DOJ is the one who obstructed it.    That’s the entire basis of the issue.    Blind as a bat.  Holy f are you clueless as to the basic details of this.

I am too dam busy that's for sure.  lol. Long gone are the days when I had all kinds of time to fuck around online.  I am getting too old to work this much and I am supposed to be in the easy-going, laid-back cannabis/hemp industry lol. 

Some assumptions based on experience, logic, and my stance on stuff like this:

- The federal government rarely charges anyone that they don't think they can have a 100% chance for a conviction.  Basically, when the feds charge you, you are going to prison.   This is one reason I don't think they have enough evidence yet.  And this is why I think your boy Trump is fucked.

- If the DOJ is preventing charges from being made and there is ample evidence, people in the department will eventually force the DOJ to act or go elsewhere to force the DOJ to act.   Also, outside parties can put soo much pressure on them to act they will be forced to. 

- The GOP has the ability to throw so much money at this and create a campaign that will push for charges to be placed.  I suspect they don't feel they have enough evidence yet.

- Over the past several years I have been involved in several lawsuits working with legal teams.  One of the things I learned from all of this is that often a digital/paper trail is critical for proving innocence or guilt.  If there is a smoking gun, that's how they will find who pulled the trigger. 

- People/Companies all play the LLC game, having many LLCs/companies nested/webbed in all sorts of ways.   I don't know what the explanation is for having 20+ LLCs, but the fact they exist isn't evidence by itself. They have to be investigated and shown that they are collecting money illegally or fraudulently.  If they aren't breaking the law but are as you say they are doing, then the laws might need to change because they may be actually doing something unethical but legal.

- I can't remember if you or Soul or neither of you are lawyers.  But what you say about the 20 LLCs and the millions is a good reason to suspect a potential crime, but until you are privy to the exact evidence thus far collected, you are just basing this on conjecture and association.  I am not saying you aren't correct, cause you could be right.  But there is too much BS to vet from our positions to say concisely. 

- Very much agree.  Our society/system and created a situation where most people don't have the time to analyze this crap that's going on because we are too busy just trying to make ends meet.  It always makes me think of a comment by Jeff Goldbloom's character in Jurassic Park book when he questioned how civilized we really have become when most of us need to work 40-60 hours a week to live when stone age people only worked (hunted and gathered) 20 hours a week.  So instead we end up relying on news sources whose credibility/accuracy/truthfulness is always in question on both sides.

- I think our whole government is corrupt in many ways.  If someone breaks the law, they must face the consequences.  I don't have any loyalty to either side.  They are both dirty and supporting the less dirty side doesn't make it right.





Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 29, 2023, 07:39:40 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/06/29/joe-biden-says-met-alone-68-times-xi-jinping/
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 29, 2023, 07:53:00 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/06/29/joe-biden-says-met-alone-68-times-xi-jinping/


Joe's red telephone really is red.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2023, 08:31:18 AM
There is plenty of evidence via the bank records, whatsapp rtexts, the business partners, etc 

I am too dam busy that's for sure.  lol. Long gone are the days when I had all kinds of time to fuck around online.  I am getting too old to work this much and I am supposed to be in the easy-going, laid-back cannabis/hemp industry lol. 

Some assumptions based on experience, logic, and my stance on stuff like this:

- The federal government rarely charges anyone that they don't think they can have a 100% chance for a conviction.  Basically, when the feds charge you, you are going to prison.   This is one reason I don't think they have enough evidence yet.  And this is why I think your boy Trump is fucked.

- If the DOJ is preventing charges from being made and there is ample evidence, people in the department will eventually force the DOJ to act or go elsewhere to force the DOJ to act.   Also, outside parties can put soo much pressure on them to act they will be forced to. 

- The GOP has the ability to throw so much money at this and create a campaign that will push for charges to be placed.  I suspect they don't feel they have enough evidence yet.

- Over the past several years I have been involved in several lawsuits working with legal teams.  One of the things I learned from all of this is that often a digital/paper trail is critical for proving innocence or guilt.  If there is a smoking gun, that's how they will find who pulled the trigger. 

- People/Companies all play the LLC game, having many LLCs/companies nested/webbed in all sorts of ways.   I don't know what the explanation is for having 20+ LLCs, but the fact they exist isn't evidence by itself. They have to be investigated and shown that they are collecting money illegally or fraudulently.  If they aren't breaking the law but are as you say they are doing, then the laws might need to change because they may be actually doing something unethical but legal.

- I can't remember if you or Soul or neither of you are lawyers.  But what you say about the 20 LLCs and the millions is a good reason to suspect a potential crime, but until you are privy to the exact evidence thus far collected, you are just basing this on conjecture and association.  I am not saying you aren't correct, cause you could be right.  But there is too much BS to vet from our positions to say concisely. 

- Very much agree.  Our society/system and created a situation where most people don't have the time to analyze this crap that's going on because we are too busy just trying to make ends meet.  It always makes me think of a comment by Jeff Goldbloom's character in Jurassic Park book when he questioned how civilized we really have become when most of us need to work 40-60 hours a week to live when stone age people only worked (hunted and gathered) 20 hours a week.  So instead we end up relying on news sources whose credibility/accuracy/truthfulness is always in question on both sides.

- I think our whole government is corrupt in many ways.  If someone breaks the law, they must face the consequences.  I don't have any loyalty to either side.  They are both dirty and supporting the less dirty side doesn't make it right.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 29, 2023, 09:14:20 AM
There is plenty of evidence via the bank records, whatsapp rtexts, the business partners, etc

Have you seen it?  Is it conclusive?  Has an investigative reporter published it?  Would it all hold in court and stand a lawyer's defense?

Or are you assuming all this?

Again, I am not saying either way. 

But how can you know there is enough to charge him with a crime if you yourself haven't seen it?

That's why I have to assume there isn't enough there or MAYBE the DOJ will get pushed into having to levy a charge eventually.

They are likely dirty sure, so is Hillary and so is Trump, but its got to be proven.  Trump was in office for 4 years and didn't get shit done on Hillary. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2023, 09:27:27 AM
Have you seen it?  Is it conclusive?  Has an investigative reporter published it?  Would it all hold in court and stand a lawyer's defense?

Or are you assuming all this?

Again, I am not saying either way. 

But how can you know there is enough to charge him with a crime if you yourself haven't seen it?

That's why I have to assume there isn't enough there or MAYBE the DOJ will get pushed into having to levy a charge eventually.

They are likely dirty sure, so is Hillary and so is Trump, but its got to be proven.  Trump was in office for 4 years and didn't get shit done on Hillary.

Its been out there for weeks now!  Why the F are you commenting on something you literally know nothing about? 

The whats app message is prima facia evidence of the shakedown and then they got 5 million right afterwards
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 29, 2023, 09:50:25 AM
Its been out there for weeks now!  Why the F are you commenting on something you literally know nothing about? 

The whats app message is prima facia evidence of the shakedown and then they got 5 million right afterwards



I am simply saying that there is likely not enough or strong enough evidence to make a charge yet against Joe Biden.  You may think so and that might happen... or not.     It took them what, 5 years for Hunter?

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2023, 10:05:09 AM


I am simply saying that there is likely not enough or strong enough evidence to make a charge yet against Joe Biden.  You may think so and that might happen... or not.     It took them what, 5 years for Hunter?

For mofo sake!!!  You know literally nothing on this do you?   The whistleblowers have all come out on this the past weeks.   Just stop already you look like an idiot. 

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 29, 2023, 10:11:14 AM
For mofo sake!!!  You know literally nothing on this do you?   The whistleblowers have all come out on this the past weeks.   Just stop already you look like an idiot. 



It doesn't happen that quickly regardless of me being an idiot or not.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2023, 10:15:12 AM
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 29, 2023, 11:13:26 AM
I remember when SC was going on about how they were about to get Obama.  Never happened.
I remember when SC was going on about how they were about to get Hillary.  Never happened.
Will this be another case of "never happened" as well?  Stay tuned.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2023, 11:49:33 AM
I remember when SC was going on about how they were about to get Obama.  Never happened.
I remember when SC was going on about how they were about to get Hillary.  Never happened.
Will this be another case of "never happened" as well?  Stay tuned.

Well now we learned why!

The DOJ is corrupted top to bottom 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 29, 2023, 12:22:29 PM
Well now we learned why!

The DOJ is corrupted top to bottom

Or maybe you are just wrong again.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2023, 12:30:53 PM
Or maybe you are just wrong again.

Or maybe you should follow news other than ?MSNBC and CNN. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 29, 2023, 12:32:53 PM
Or maybe you should follow news other than ?MSNBC and CNN.

Or maybe you try a little common sense.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on June 29, 2023, 02:24:24 PM

- People/Companies all play the LLC game, having many LLCs/companies nested/webbed in all sorts of ways.   I don't know what the explanation is for having 20+ LLCs, but the fact they exist isn't evidence by itself. They have to be investigated and shown that they are collecting money illegally or fraudulently.  If they aren't breaking the law but are as you say they are doing, then the laws might need to change because they may be actually doing something unethical but legal.


It's not uncommon for businesses to have multiple entities, including holding companies that are essentially a shell.  But a family that does not have an actual business and does not provide any kind of product or service setting up 20 LLCs for the sole purpose of receiving millions of dollars from about 40 different banks from foreign entities and individuals reeks.  I cannot think of an innocent explanation.   

Keep in mind (as I've said several times on the board) that the whole nature of fraud is for people to cover their tracks and hide what they are doing, which makes it difficult to prove.  But do you really need a smoking to gun to reach a logical conclusion that something nefarious is happening here?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 29, 2023, 02:56:21 PM
It's not uncommon for businesses to have multiple entities, including holding companies that are essentially a shell.  But a family that does not have an actual business and does not provide any kind of product or service setting up 20 LLCs for the sole purpose of receiving millions of dollars from about 40 different banks from foreign entities and individuals reeks.  I cannot think of an innocent explanation.   

Keep in mind (as I've said several times on the board) that the whole nature of fraud is for people to cover their tracks and hide what they are doing, which makes it difficult to prove.  But do you really need a smoking to gun to reach a logical conclusion that something nefarious is happening here?

It would be interesting to see how each of those companies is set up and how they account for income, expenses, and assets.  They probably label the transactions "consulting fees".

I think you have a smoking gun here.  What it is exactly, I don't know.  It still needs to be proven in court and the feds will likely take their time building a case.

Imagine the last 2 American Presidents getting convicted of crimes.... :o
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on June 29, 2023, 03:11:55 PM
It would be interesting to see how each of those companies is set up and how they account for income, expenses, and assets.  They probably label the transactions "consulting fees".

I think you have a smoking gun here.  What it is exactly, I don't know.  It still needs to be proven in court and the feds will likely take their time building a case.

Imagine the last 2 American Presidents getting convicted of crimes.... :o

Assume they were labeled "consulting fees."  No way were all of the Biden family members "consulting" with these foreign adversaries.  Even Hunter Biden wasn't providing any kind of service.

I don't think Hunter or Joe Biden will be convicted of anything regarding this influence peddling.  Nothing is going to happen.  These people don't care if the Constitution is being shredded, if they are breaking the law, if they are enforcing the law in an unequal manner, etc.  Recent history has shown they can do pretty much whatever they want without consequences.  The whole Russian Manchurian Candidate fiasco proves it.  Nobody was held accountable.   

And the media will give them cover.  I'm actually shocked that CBS is covering the IRS whistleblower story.  I suspect Democrats may be laying the groundwork to kick Biden to the curb if the evidence of corruption becomes even more overwhelming.  But the likely outcome is Biden gets reelected. 

We are screwed.  I'm just trying to enjoy what's left of my great country.   
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on June 29, 2023, 04:18:50 PM

You and others do this shit on purpose.   You know that he said "Now All Kidding Aside" afterwards.    You already knew that but you tried to run with it
Can you post the full unedited video so I can see that?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on June 29, 2023, 07:02:16 PM
If course you wouldn’t vote for the most logical choice…he’s not a Marxist.

Guess we will eventually find out who between you and I makes the most logical choice. Hint, it won't be the one who votes for Trump in 2024.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on June 29, 2023, 07:12:15 PM
Maybe you just shouldn't vote. Your senility could compromise your decision making abilities.

Prove to me that you hold a doctorate in geriatrics, neurology and/or psychology and I might take your idiotic nonsensical comments about the state of my health with regards to senility more seriously.  :)

IMO, until this happens, you are just another 'dumb fuck' who posts on Getbig.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on June 29, 2023, 09:22:08 PM
Prove to me that you hold a doctorate in geriatrics, neurology and/or psychology and I might take your idiotic nonsensical comments about the state of my health with regards to senility more seriously.  :)

IMO, until this happens, you are just another 'dumb fuck' who posts on Getbig.
Not a very grandfather-like post, although with your senility maybe you've forgotten your advanced age.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 29, 2023, 10:24:52 PM
It would be interesting to see how each of those companies is set up and how they account for income, expenses, and assets.  They probably label the transactions "consulting fees".

I think you have a smoking gun here.  What it is exactly, I don't know.  It still needs to be proven in court and the feds will likely take their time building a case.

Imagine the last 2 American Presidents getting convicted of crimes.... :o

And therein lies the problem…they can’t account for the income. All 22 + shell LLC’s cannot be accounted for.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 30, 2023, 06:43:27 AM
Assume they were labeled "consulting fees."  No way were all of the Biden family members "consulting" with these foreign adversaries.  Even Hunter Biden wasn't providing any kind of service.

I don't think Hunter or Joe Biden will be convicted of anything regarding this influence peddling.  Nothing is going to happen.  These people don't care if the Constitution is being shredded, if they are breaking the law, if they are enforcing the law in an unequal manner, etc.  Recent history has shown they can do pretty much whatever they want without consequences.  The whole Russian Manchurian Candidate fiasco proves it.  Nobody was held accountable.   

And the media will give them cover.  I'm actually shocked that CBS is covering the IRS whistleblower story.  I suspect Democrats may be laying the groundwork to kick Biden to the curb if the evidence of corruption becomes even more overwhelming.  But the likely outcome is Biden gets reelected. 

We are screwed.  I'm just trying to enjoy what's left of my great country.   

A lot of companies do shit like this.  They find ways to manipulate money attribution to avoid paying taxes or hide other shit.  Not a thing you can do to stop it.  An "Exec" of Company X goes to Ukraine to provide consulting.  They meet for a few hours.  The meeting is documented.  Company X sends an invoice to the Ukrainian government for $2,000,000.  It's recorded and the transaction matches the company's articles of incorporation (Company X's charter says they are a consulting company that advises other countries on their economy).  Good luck proving that was a shakedown in court.

Then another company, Company A who is based out of Panama where corps aren't taxed charges Company X a $2,000,000 intellectual property fee for the "advice" Company X gave Ukraine.  So Company X sends Company A 2 million and lists that as an expense.

Company A and X are both owned by Company Z who is owned by who the hell knows and so on and so forth.  And none of them end up paying taxes.

Legal B.O.H.I.C.A.

We may see more coverage on this.  I saw an article on the daily beast talking about how there is documentation that may clear Robinette of involvement in Ukraine.  I also don't think they will be convicted of anything.  It's going to be too hard to prove it and I ultimately think that's why the DOJ hasn't jumped on it.

Welcome to the United Oligarchy of North America.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on June 30, 2023, 06:46:46 AM
And therein lies the problem…they can’t account for the income. All 22 + shell LLC’s cannot be accounted for.

I'd be very surprised if they couldn't.  A good CFO, accountant, or whatever will know how to record and index the income so that it passes any scrutiny. 

Legit (lol) companies do this shit all the time.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 30, 2023, 10:29:18 AM
Instead of those crappy NFTs maybe y’all should have invested your money into these state secrets for sale.  I bought a few.  From Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin,…..

Hang on I’ll tell what they are.

*rustling papers*

Ok, it says “Biden won.”

WTF.  That’s no secret.  I want my money back.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on June 30, 2023, 12:09:50 PM
Not a very grandfather-like post, although with your senility maybe you've forgotten your advanced age.

Shame, shame on me. I will try to be more grandfather-like in future posts. Please do let me know immediately if I slip up and use un-grandfatherly, vulgar four-letter  words. I read the way to forestall senility and stay as sharp as possible is to post often on Getbig even though it may lead to 'Bad Grandpa' type behavior. ;)

Note: Please don't tell my grandchildren and great-grandchildren that sometimes I use swear words; my children already know this about me.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on June 30, 2023, 01:20:05 PM
A lot of companies do shit like this.  They find ways to manipulate money attribution to avoid paying taxes or hide other shit.  Not a thing you can do to stop it.  An "Exec" of Company X goes to Ukraine to provide consulting.  They meet for a few hours.  The meeting is documented.  Company X sends an invoice to the Ukrainian government for $2,000,000.  It's recorded and the transaction matches the company's articles of incorporation (Company X's charter says they are a consulting company that advises other countries on their economy).  Good luck proving that was a shakedown in court.

Then another company, Company A who is based out of Panama where corps aren't taxed charges Company X a $2,000,000 intellectual property fee for the "advice" Company X gave Ukraine.  So Company X sends Company A 2 million and lists that as an expense.

Company A and X are both owned by Company Z who is owned by who the hell knows and so on and so forth.  And none of them end up paying taxes.

Legal B.O.H.I.C.A.

We may see more coverage on this.  I saw an article on the daily beast talking about how there is documentation that may clear Robinette of involvement in Ukraine.  I also don't think they will be convicted of anything.  It's going to be too hard to prove it and I ultimately think that's why the DOJ hasn't jumped on it.

Welcome to the United Oligarchy of North America.

Remember the distinction is the companies who create multiple entities have an actual business where they are providing a product or service.  The Biden Crime Family does not provide a product or service.  They don't have any special expertise in any anything.

And I think we are on the same page, but I'm not talking about what can or will be proved in any kind of criminal prosecution or impeachment proceeding.  Just talking about using our common sense to evaluate what is in plain view. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 30, 2023, 04:00:10 PM
Remember the distinction is the companies who create multiple entities have an actual business where they are providing a product or service.  The Biden Crime Family does not provide a product or service.  They don't have any special expertise in any anything.

And I think we are on the same page, but I'm not talking about what can or will be proved in any kind of criminal prosecution or impeachment proceeding.  Just talking about using our common sense to evaluate what is in plain view.


The Biden family business is the same as the Clinton business.....money laundering from selling influence.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on June 30, 2023, 04:16:34 PM

The Biden family business is the same as the Clinton business.....money laundering from selling influence.

How would you define Trump and his family’s business practices, before during and after Trump was in office?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 30, 2023, 05:13:22 PM
How would you define Trump and his families business practices, before during and after Trump was in office?

God are you fucking insane and nuts.  Typical blue voter cultist.   He had decades of building construction and other businesses before politics.   
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 30, 2023, 09:10:34 PM
How would you define Trump and his families business practices, before during and after Trump was in office?

I’ll bite, but before I answer what’s your background in business? Ever owned a business? Ever put a business plan together? If you have, what were the details? Were you an LLC? S-Corp? C-Corp? Did you ever have an exit strategy? Did you ever have a strategy if the business failed? Have you ever even signed an employee paycheck as an employer? This is the tip of the iceberg, but let’s start here?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 01, 2023, 12:52:45 AM
How would you define Trump and his families business practices, before during and after Trump was in office?

Questions like this really show much you live in a bubble.  Trump is a developer who builds hotels and casinos.  His brand (i.e., his name) is so profitable that people pay money for it.  For example, while he builds hotels around the world, there is a Trump hotel in Waikiki that he did not build, but they pay him to use his name. 

Trump became one of the wealthiest men in the world before ever getting anywhere near political office.  He lost money by serving as POTUS.  He also donated his entire POTUS salary. 

Biden, on the other hand, was not wealthy for this entire life as a career politician, and only became one of the wealthiest men in the country after leaving office, as a direct result of his government service. 

A blind man can see the stark differences.  Partisan hacks may have a little trouble.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 01, 2023, 12:53:54 AM
I’ll bite, but before I answer what’s your background in business? Ever owned a business? Ever put a business plan together? If you have, what were the details? Were you an LLC? S-Corp? C-Corp? Did you ever have an exit strategy? Did you ever have a strategy if the business failed? Have you ever even signed an employee paycheck as an employer? This is the tip of the iceberg, but let’s start here?

Clearly questions from a man who has run and understands a business. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 01, 2023, 06:46:30 AM
How would you define Trump and his families business practices, before during and after Trump was in office?


Pro-American as opposed to anti-American. Capitalist working in a capitalist system as opposed to communist cronyism.

There's just something about selling the USA out to foreign interests that bothers me.

I assume you still believe in the Russia Hoax and that would be what you are trying to make equal. It's not.

No matter what they cannot get the drug addled offspring raised by a brain damaged serial lying pervert to be the same as Trump, for all his faults. Only you would buy that.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 01, 2023, 07:03:57 AM
How would you define Trump and his families business practices, before during and after Trump was in office?

Scammy.   Fraudulent.  Failures.  Federal Investigation triggering.  ::)

Now maybe one of Biden’s will be a scamming charity.  Or a fraudulent university. Or a tax dodging, employee indicting, LLC. 

Imagine the insane level of whining the Trumpturds will do then if the way they are crying right now is any indication. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2023, 07:34:18 AM
Scammy.   Fraudulent.  Failures.  Federal Investigation triggering.  ::)

Now maybe one of Biden’s will be a scamming charity.  Or a fraudulent university. Or a tax dodging, employee indicting, LLC. 

Imagine the insane level of whining the Trumpturds will do then if the way they are crying right now is any indication.

Or taking tens of millions to change us foreign policy.   Yeah same thing.  Uh huh
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 01, 2023, 07:52:18 AM
Or taking tens of millions to change us foreign policy.   Yeah same thing.  Uh huh


Where is the proof?  Find it and I am sure there will be an investigation underway.

Crying with no proof is silly.  Stop.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2023, 11:43:48 AM
Shame, shame on me.
Yes, lots of shame on you.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2023, 11:45:35 AM

Where is the proof?  Find it and I am sure there will be an investigation underway.

Crying with no proof is silly.  Stop.
Says the guy crying about another man that hasn't been in office for years in order to avoid facing the abortion of an administration he voted for. ::)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 01, 2023, 01:39:37 PM
Says the guy crying about another man that hasn't been in office for years in order to avoid facing the abortion of an administration he voted for. ::)

Says the guy defending a lying con man that hasn't been in office for years but still racking up indictments and investigations.  Facts hurt don't they?   ::)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 01, 2023, 04:10:36 PM
Says the guy defending a lying con man that hasn't been in office for years but still racking up indictments and investigations.  Facts hurt don't they?   ::)


Let us all know when they actually convict of anything.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2023, 06:17:32 PM
God are you fucking insane and nuts.  Typical blue voter cultist.   He had decades of building construction and other businesses before politics.

Your post is redundant. Insane and nuts essentially means the same thing.

Nothing in my post implies my not knowing he has been in a variety of business ventures including building construction, many of which failed. Trump and I are about the same age. I probably know more about him and his sometimes failed 'businesses" than you do, though I was never inclined to pay much attention to Trump prior to his decision to run for office in 2016. So your question is kind of ridiculous. Have you been smoking weed or drinking alcohol or are you just 'fucking' nuts?  :)

How would you define Trump and his families business practices, before, during, and after Trump was in office?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 01, 2023, 06:22:47 PM

Let us all know when they actually convict of anything.


Be patient. Enjoy the trials.   :) 

Don’t cry too much.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2023, 06:28:05 PM
I’ll bite, but before I answer what’s your background in business? Ever owned a business? Ever put a business plan together? If you have, what were the details? Were you an LLC? S-Corp? C-Corp? Did you ever have an exit strategy? Did you ever have a strategy if the business failed? Have you ever even signed an employee paycheck as an employer? This is the tip of the iceberg, but let’s start here?

I have never been a business owner. What does this have to do with my question? Seems like you are looking for excuses to evade answering it.

If I remember correctly, you have owned at least one if not more businesses, so I assume you know something about running them. That is why I asked for your opinion on Trump's business practices. -Enlighten me.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2023, 06:31:20 PM
Your post is redundant. Insane and nuts essentially means the same thing.

Nothing in my post implies my not knowing he has been in a variety of business ventures including building construction, many of which went bankrupt. Trump and I are about the same age. I probably know more about him and his sometimes failed 'businesses" than you do, though I was never inclined to pay much attention to Trump prior to his decision to run for office in 2016. So your question is kind of ridiculous. Have you been smoking weed or drinking alcohol or are you just 'fucking' nuts?  :)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 02, 2023, 07:28:17 AM
Says the guy defending a lying con man that hasn't been in office for years but still racking up indictments and investigations.  Facts hurt don't they?   ::)
This is a Biden thread, can you get back on topic of why Biden said he sold state secrets and you support this hair sniffing, child touching, senile old traitor?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 02, 2023, 08:46:48 AM
This is a Biden thread, can you get back on topic of why Biden said he sold state secrets and you support this hair sniffing, child touching, senile old traitor?

Probably because he knew he would be trolling your whiny ass and have you posting on the internet about it.

Seems to have worked. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: illuminati on July 02, 2023, 10:04:49 AM

This is a Biden thread, can you get back on topic of why Biden said he sold state secrets and you support this hair sniffing, child touching, senile old traitor?

Yes let's keep it all Pedo Joe & DummyCraps

There's more than enough Orange man good Threads

 ;D





" God save the Queen "

Mere slip of the Tongue - Pedo Pete knows what he's talking about
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2023, 12:43:39 PM
I have never been a business owner. What does this have to do with my question? Seems like you are looking for excuses to evade answering it.

If I remember correctly, you have owned at least one if not more businesses, so I assume you know something about running them. That is why I asked for your opinion on Trump's business practices. -Enlighten me.

On the contrary, it has everything to do it. One would assume if you're talking shit about someone who's ran successful businesses for 50+ years you would know. The point of you questioning Trump's business practices isn't an innocent one, especially from someone that intentionally looks for the worst in him and believes every negative headline the MSM spews.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 02, 2023, 12:48:50 PM
Questions like this really show much you live in a bubble.  Trump is a developer who builds hotels and casinos.  His brand (i.e., his name) is so profitable that people pay money for it.  For example, while he builds hotels around the world, there is a Trump hotel in Waikiki that he did not build, but they pay him to use his name. 

Trump became one of the wealthiest men in the world before ever getting anywhere near political office.  He lost money by serving as POTUS.  He also donated his entire POTUS salary. 

Biden, on the other hand, was not wealthy for this entire life as a career politician, and only became one of the wealthiest men in the country after leaving office, as a direct result of his government service. 

A blind man can see the stark differences.  Partisan hacks may have a little trouble.

What in my post gives you the idea I don't know anything about Trump's businesses and business practices. Everything he does including taking a shit is in the news and has been for some time, including his (at least) six bankruptcies.

Failed businesses:

Trump Steaks - started in 2007 folded after 2 months

2. GoTrump - travel agency website which started in 2006 and closed in 2007

3. Trump Airlines - In 1988, he bought an airline. After only 18 months, it lost over $125 million.

4. Trump Vodka - Launched in 2005 - ended production in 2011. Note, empty and unopened bottles can be bought in EBay for ridiculous prices. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=Trump+Vodka&_sacat=0

5. Trump Mortgage - First Meridian Mortgage was renamed as Trump Financial. After a few years, Trump Financial closed and the company reverted to its original name.

6. Trump: The Game - Discontinued production by Parker Brothers / Hasbro

7. Trump Magazine - Publication ended in 2009 due to sagging ad sales

8. Trump University - Open from 2005 to 2010. Former students sued Trump for fraud and won a $25 million settlement.

9. Trump Ice - A bottled water product. It was discontinued in 2010

10. The New Jersey Generals - Trump purchased it in 1984 for between $5 million and $10 million. Following a lawsuit against the NFL they shutdown. This is just one of many teams that Trump tried to buy over the years.

11. Tour de Trump - Trump’s namesake race lasted only two years, the short run largely thanks to his empire’s billions of dollars of debt.

12. Trump Network - Not dead but bleeding badly, Trump to date has lost $550 million from his net worth due to Truth Social's failure to produce.

Although not Trump personal bankruptcies to date, hotels and casino businesses of his have declared bankruptcy six times between 1991 and 2009 due to its inability to meet required payments and to re-negotiate debt with banks, owners of stock and bonds and various small businesses (unsecured creditors). Two Trump-branded real estate projects in Florida that have gone into foreclosure.

As of May, Forbes estimates Trump's net worth at $2.5 billion, putting the real estate developer at No. 1,232 on the magazine's list of the world's richest billionaires.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2023, 01:14:14 PM

Where is the proof?  Find it and I am sure there will be an investigation underway.

Crying with no proof is silly.  Stop.

More proof you don’t keep up
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2023, 01:16:39 PM
What in my post gives you the idea I don't know anything about Trump's businesses and business practices. Everything he does including taking a shit is in the news and has been for some time, including his (at least) six bankruptcies.

Failed businesses:

Trump Steaks - started in 2007 folded after 2 months

2. GoTrump - travel agency website which started in 2006 and closed in 2007

3. Trump Airlines - In 1988, he bought an airline. After only 18 months, it lost over $125 million.

4. Trump Vodka - Launched in 2005 - ended production in 2011. Note, empty and unopened bottles can be bought in EBay for ridiculous prices. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=Trump+Vodka&_sacat=0

5. Trump Mortgage - First Meridian Mortgage was renamed as Trump Financial. After a few years, Trump Financial closed and the company reverted to its original name.

6. Trump: The Game - Discontinued production by Parker Brothers / Hasbro

7. Trump Magazine - Publication ended in 2009 due to sagging ad sales

8. Trump University - Open from 2005 to 2010. Former students sued Trump for fraud and won a $25 million settlement.

9. Trump Ice - A bottled water product. It was discontinued in 2010

10. The New Jersey Generals - Trump purchased it in 1984 for between $5 million and $10 million. Following a lawsuit against the NFL they shutdown. This is just one of many teams that Trump tried to buy over the years.

11. Tour de Trump - Trump’s namesake race lasted only two years, the short run largely thanks to his empire’s billions of dollars of debt.

12. Trump Network - Not dead but bleeding badly, Trump to date has lost $550 million from his net worth due to Truth Social's failure to produce.

Although not Trump personal bankruptcies to date, hotels and casino businesses of his have declared bankruptcy six times between 1991 and 2009 due to its inability to meet required payments and to re-negotiate debt with banks, owners of stock and bonds and various small businesses (unsecured creditors). Two Trump-branded real estate projects in Florida that have gone into foreclosure.

As of May, Forbes estimates Trump's net worth at $2.5 billion, putting the real estate developer at No. 1,232 on the magazine's list of the world's richest billionaires.

He has more than 500+ businesses. That little list you have is more proof you know nothing about business. Thats a stellar record.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 02, 2023, 01:37:39 PM
He has more than 500+ businesses. That little list you have is more proof you know nothing about business. Thats a stellar record.

Between the ages of 3 and 58, president Donald Trump inherited at least $413 million from his father’s business empire. Not bad for 'seed money' and a healthy 'safety net'.

Like the saying goes "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer" some of which depends on winning or losing multiple lawsuits and paying a shitload of court costs and attorney's fees.   

Trump's businesses generated at least $446.3 million in sales in 2019. That dropped about 40% to $278 million in 2020.

New York Magazine. "Trump's Revenue Is Cratering at the Worst Possible Time."

The Trump National Doral golf resort generated the most revenue of any of the former president's businesses in 2019, posting $77.2 million in sales. Its revenue plunged more than 40% in 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic year.

Trump's net worth slipped to about $2.3 billion during his presidency compared to about $3 billion before he took office, according to Bloomberg. Not sure how his net worth known since revenue is what one has before deductions for all expenses. Maybe this is why it is only estimated.

Separately, Forbes estimates his current wealth at $2.1 billion.
Trump's personal income is unknown because he lists business revenue instead of profit on his financial disclosures.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 02, 2023, 01:57:26 PM

Pro-American as opposed to anti-American. Capitalist working in a capitalist system as opposed to communist cronyism.

There's just something about selling the USA out to foreign interests that bothers me.

I assume you still believe in the Russia Hoax and that would be what you are trying to make equal. It's not.

No matter what they cannot get the drug addled offspring raised by a brain damaged serial lying pervert to be the same as Trump, for all his faults. Only you would buy that.

Me and apparently a majority of the U.S. voters.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 02, 2023, 02:36:07 PM
More proof you don’t keep up

More proof you just make shit up and post bullshit.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 02, 2023, 02:37:04 PM
Me and apparently a majority of the U.S. voters.

81+ Million it would seem.   ;D
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 02, 2023, 03:28:01 PM
Probably because he knew he would be trolling your whiny ass and have you posting on the internet about it.

Seems to have worked.
Ahh yeah, Biden openly admits to selling state secrets and it's sold to the people as "trolling". ::)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 02, 2023, 03:52:30 PM
Ahh yeah, Biden openly admits to selling state secrets and it's sold to the people as "trolling". ::)

Ahh yeah,...   Seems that way.  Of course, get some evidence proving otherwise and you might be right.  Should we wait?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2023, 03:53:43 PM
Between the ages of 3 and 58, president Donald Trump inherited at least $413 million from his father’s business empire. Not bad for 'seed money' and a healthy 'safety net'.

Like the saying goes "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer" some of which depends on winning or losing multiple lawsuits and paying a shitload of court costs and attorney's fees.   

Trump's businesses generated at least $446.3 million in sales in 2019. That dropped about 40% to $278 million in 2020.

New York Magazine. "Trump's Revenue Is Cratering at the Worst Possible Time."

The Trump National Doral golf resort generated the most revenue of any of the former president's businesses in 2019, posting $77.2 million in sales. Its revenue plunged more than 40% in 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic year.

Trump's net worth slipped to about $2.3 billion during his presidency compared to about $3 billion before he took office, according to Bloomberg. Not sure how his net worth known since revenue is what one has before deductions for all expenses. Maybe this is why it is only estimated.

Separately, Forbes estimates his current wealth at $2.1 billion.
Trump's personal income is unknown because he lists business revenue instead of profit on his financial disclosures.

There you go again using the most leftist rag you can find in “New York Magazine” let me ask you. Is it even possible for your think on your own? And if this is true, what do you suppose is the reason for this? I know, let’s see if you can figure it out with something you Google.

In 2020 what do you suspect caused that 40% drop in revenue? 🤔
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 02, 2023, 06:56:46 PM
There you go again using the most leftist rag you can find in “New York Magazine” let me ask you. Is it even possible for your think on your own? And if this is true, what do you suppose is the reason for this? I know, let’s see if you can figure it out with something you Google.

In 2020 what do you suspect caused that 40% drop in revenue? 🤔

Turnabout is fair play. You constantly cut and paste from the most rightist rags you can find. Someone around here need to balance the nonsense you post out... you are welcome, it is my pleasure. 

How about you dispute that one sentence about the current state of his finances which is the only piece of my post that came from the New York Magazine.

If you can dispute it, your source will be... let me guess, the Gateway Pundit. Which appears to be your only source of information.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2023, 11:07:18 PM
Turnabout is fair play. You constantly cut and paste from the most rightist rags you can find. Someone around here need to balance the nonsense you post out... you are welcome, it is my pleasure. 

How about you dispute that one sentence about the current state of his finances which is the only piece of my post that came from the New York Magazine.

If you can dispute it, your source will be... let me guess, the Gateway Pundit. Which appears to be your only source of information.

Yeah, the difference is mine can actually be backed up by documentation, video, transcripts and flat out common sense.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 03, 2023, 08:48:17 AM
Yeah, the difference is mine can actually be backed up by documentation, video, transcripts and flat out common sense.

But not facts and evidence.  Big difference.   :)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 03, 2023, 09:04:18 AM
But not facts and evidence.  Big difference.   :)

Both little man
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 03, 2023, 11:58:15 AM
Ahh yeah,...   Seems that way.  Of course, get some evidence proving otherwise and you might be right.  Should we wait?
I suppose admitting in openly in front of the world isn't enough evidence for an investigation.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 03, 2023, 12:36:02 PM
Both little man

Neither retard.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 03, 2023, 12:40:50 PM
I suppose admitting in openly in front of the world isn't enough evidence for an investigation.

You probably think admitting openly in front of the world what you are indicted for isn't good enough for a conviction either.   ::)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 03, 2023, 12:41:05 PM
More proof you just make shit up and post bullshit.

Proof is Coaches favorite word... too bad he has no idea what proof is.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 03, 2023, 12:51:10 PM
You probably think admitting openly in front of the world what you are indicted for isn't good enough for a conviction either.   ::)
Epic deflection and defense of the child sniffer. Why not stick to your 1000 Trump threads since that's all you think about.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 03, 2023, 01:05:56 PM
Epic deflection and defense of the child sniffer. Why not stick to your 1000 Trump threads since that's all you think about.

Epic hypocrisy and denial of the orange turd.  Why not stick to your 1000 TDfS posts instead since that's all you think about.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2023, 01:19:19 PM
What in my post gives you the idea I don't know anything about Trump's businesses and business practices. Everything he does including taking a shit is in the news and has been for some time, including his (at least) six bankruptcies.

Failed businesses:

Trump Steaks - started in 2007 folded after 2 months

2. GoTrump - travel agency website which started in 2006 and closed in 2007

3. Trump Airlines - In 1988, he bought an airline. After only 18 months, it lost over $125 million.

4. Trump Vodka - Launched in 2005 - ended production in 2011. Note, empty and unopened bottles can be bought in EBay for ridiculous prices. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=Trump+Vodka&_sacat=0

5. Trump Mortgage - First Meridian Mortgage was renamed as Trump Financial. After a few years, Trump Financial closed and the company reverted to its original name.

6. Trump: The Game - Discontinued production by Parker Brothers / Hasbro

7. Trump Magazine - Publication ended in 2009 due to sagging ad sales

8. Trump University - Open from 2005 to 2010. Former students sued Trump for fraud and won a $25 million settlement.

9. Trump Ice - A bottled water product. It was discontinued in 2010

10. The New Jersey Generals - Trump purchased it in 1984 for between $5 million and $10 million. Following a lawsuit against the NFL they shutdown. This is just one of many teams that Trump tried to buy over the years.

11. Tour de Trump - Trump’s namesake race lasted only two years, the short run largely thanks to his empire’s billions of dollars of debt.

12. Trump Network - Not dead but bleeding badly, Trump to date has lost $550 million from his net worth due to Truth Social's failure to produce.

Although not Trump personal bankruptcies to date, hotels and casino businesses of his have declared bankruptcy six times between 1991 and 2009 due to its inability to meet required payments and to re-negotiate debt with banks, owners of stock and bonds and various small businesses (unsecured creditors). Two Trump-branded real estate projects in Florida that have gone into foreclosure.

As of May, Forbes estimates Trump's net worth at $2.5 billion, putting the real estate developer at No. 1,232 on the magazine's list of the world's richest billionaires.

You obviously don't have any idea how wealthy the man was before he took office or how he made his billions.  Or the fact that Biden became wealthy as a result of his taxpayer funded jobs.  And the fact you highlight that Trump is only "1,232 on the magazine's list of the world's richest billionaires" is hilarious.  He's one of a comparative handful of billionaires on a planet with 8 billion people.  lol

Trump Derangement Syndrome is real. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2023, 02:17:22 PM
You obviously don't have any idea how wealthy the man was before he took office or how he made his billions.  Or the fact that Biden became wealthy as a result of his taxpayer funded jobs.  And the fact you highlight that Trump is only "1,232 on the magazine's list of the world's richest billionaires" is hilarious.  He's one of a comparative handful of billionaires on a planet with 8 billion people.  lol

Trump Derangement Syndrome is real.


Come on Prime you have to at least acknowledge if not agree with what Dos has said
Trump was a billionaire before politics & being president & still is a billionaire.

Pedo Pete got his millions & family millions by tax funded job ??
And you don't question that??  How he get so much money ??

I seriously think Biden has been seriously crooked while in government office,
Tell me I'm wrong - Pedo Pete & his son are Saints aren't they ??

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 03, 2023, 02:27:52 PM
You obviously don't have any idea how wealthy the man was before he took office or how he made his billions.  Or the fact that Biden became wealthy as a result of his taxpayer funded jobs.  And the fact you highlight that Trump is only "1,232 on the magazine's list of the world's richest billionaires" is hilarious.  He's one of a comparative handful of billionaires on a planet with 8 billion people.  lol

Trump Derangement Syndrome is real.

Wrong. My overall response to your post is 'big deal and who gives a shit'. I don't care how wealthy Trump is today or before he took office. Financial wealth does not ensure a person of good character or qualify them to run a country, it only means they have more money than other folks. Vladimir Putin is estimated to be worth $200 billion. Muammar Gaddafi wealth was estimated to have been worth $200 billion (in 2011). Since you seem to think great wealth qualifies someone for the office, which of these folks would you choose to be President of the United States, Jeff Bezos $125 billion, Elon Musk $235 billion, Bill Gates $120 billion, or Mark Zuckerberg $102 billion.

FYI, there is nothing wrong with working in the public sector and in elected positions. If it were not for the folks willing to run for public office, there would be no public services, the infrastructure we enjoy daily, or any semblance of law and order. In the total absence of government there is absolute chaos and anarchy.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 03, 2023, 02:30:43 PM
Epic hypocrisy and denial of the orange turd.  Why not stick to your 1000 TDfS posts instead since that's all you think about.
Let's compare post history Tom. Again with the liberal "I'm rubber you're glue" statement. ::)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2023, 02:50:14 PM
Wrong. My overall response to your post is 'big deal and who gives a shit'. I don't care how wealthy Trump is today or before he took office. Financial wealth does not ensure a person of good character or qualify them to run a country, it only means they have more money than other folks. Vladimir Putin is estimated to be worth $200 billion. Muammar Gaddafi wealth was estimated to have been worth $200 billion (in 2011). Since you seem to think great wealth qualifies someone for the office, which of these folks would you choose to be President of the United States, Jeff Bezos $125 billion, Elon Musk $235 billion, Bill Gates $120 billion, or Mark Zuckerberg $102 billion.

FYI, there is nothing wrong with working in the public sector and in elected positions. If it were not for the folks willing to run for public office, there would be no public services, the infrastructure we enjoy daily, or any semblance of law and order. In the total absence of government there is absolute chaos and anarchy.

Holy smokes.  You're all over the place.  I never said being wealthy qualifies someone for public office.  The issue is whether someone is wealthy before taking office or becomes wealthy as a result of taking office. 

Like Bernie Sanders, who would have never in a million (so to speak) years been a multimillionaire if he wasn't a U.S. Senator. 

Same with Joe Biden, who is a dishonest idiot.  He would have been broke if not for his public office and particularly becoming VP.  But you don't care about his family collecting bags of cash because you're a blind partisan.   

Trump, on other hand, was wealthy before taking office and became LESS wealthy after taking office. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on July 03, 2023, 02:57:24 PM
Remember the distinction is the companies who create multiple entities have an actual business where they are providing a product or service.  The Biden Crime Family does not provide a product or service.  They don't have any special expertise in any anything.

And I think we are on the same page, but I'm not talking about what can or will be proved in any kind of criminal prosecution or impeachment proceeding.  Just talking about using our common sense to evaluate what is in plain view.

I get what you are saying about the Biden's. But on paper, it's likely "legit" because of the way the laws are set up.  They don't have to have expertise in anything (although Hunter's wiki makes it like he does  ::)). They simply have to have customers who are happy to pay for whatever they offer.  That's why I would love to see their books.

So what I am saying is that "common sense in plain view" doesn't do anything.  It only reinforces a preexisting belief that is not based on fact.  And "common sense in plain view" will sway very few people who will need facts to abandon their support of Biden.

Good luck getting a government of crooks convicted.   >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 03, 2023, 02:59:03 PM

Good luck getting a government of crooks convicted.   >:( >:( >:(
This. Expect to self rescue.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on July 03, 2023, 03:01:59 PM
This. Expect to self rescue.

What do you mean?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 03, 2023, 03:05:28 PM
What do you mean?
Pretty self explanatory isn't it? Government investigating government hasn't worked out in favor of the American people has it?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2023, 03:07:10 PM
I get what you are saying about the Biden's. But on paper, it's likely "legit" because of the way the laws are set up.  They don't have to have expertise in anything (although Hunter's wiki makes it like he does  ::)). They simply have to have customers who are happy to pay for whatever they offer.  That's why I would love to see their books.

So what I am saying is that "common sense in plain view" doesn't do anything.  It only reinforces a preexisting belief that is not based on fact.  And "common sense in plain view" will sway very few people who will need facts to abandon their support of Biden.

Good luck getting a government of crooks convicted.   >:( >:( >:(

I'm not really talking about criminal convictions.  Like I mentioned, I seriously doubt anyone is convicted of anything. 

I disagree about using common sense and believing what you see.  Things usually are as they appear to be.  If something looks corrupt, it probably is.  And my belief is based on a number of facts:  20 LLCs, over $20M flowing through about 40 banks, to multiple Biden family members, where there is no actual business that provides a product or service, the WhatsApp messages from Hunter shaking down a Chinese company for millions, with about $5M coming in less than two weeks later.  None of this is conjecture.  These are facts. 

You're saying these facts will not lead to a criminal conviction.  I'm agreeing with you.  I'm saying these facts are overwhelming evidence of corruption.  To conclude otherwise means you believe there is an innocent explanation for all of this.  I cannot think of one. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on July 03, 2023, 03:07:57 PM
Holy smokes.  You're all over the place.  I never said being wealthy qualifies someone for public office.  The issue is whether someone is wealthy before taking office or becomes wealthy as a result of taking office. 

Like Bernie Sanders, who would have never in a million (so to speak) years been a multimillionaire if he wasn't a U.S. Senator. 

Same with Joe Biden, who is a dishonest idiot.  He would have been broke if not for his public office and particularly becoming VP.  But you don't care about his family collecting bags of cash because you're a blind partisan.   

Trump, on other hand, was wealthy before taking office and became LESS wealthy after taking office.

How do these people become so wealthy while in office?  Is this all representatives on both sides who started no so wealthy then after a time became wealthy or is it slanted to one side?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on July 03, 2023, 03:08:22 PM
Pretty self explanatory isn't it? Government investigating government hasn't worked out in favor of the American people has it?

Doesn't seem like it.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2023, 03:10:29 PM
How do these people become so wealthy while in office?  Is this all representatives on both sides who started no so wealthy then after a time became wealthy or is it slanted to one side?

It's people like Nancy Pelosi.  Check her investment history.  It's remarkably prescient. 

And Maxine Waters.  How does that dummy become a multimillionaire??

A number of Republicans have done the same thing.  It's disgusting. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on July 03, 2023, 03:11:22 PM
I'm not really talking about criminal convictions.  Like I mentioned, I seriously doubt anyone is convicted of anything. 

I disagree about using common sense and believing what you see.  Things usually are as they appear to be.  If something looks corrupt, it probably is.  And my belief is based on a number of facts:  20 LLCs, over $20M flowing through about 40 banks, to multiple Biden family members, where there is no actual business that provides a product or service, the WhatsApp messages from Hunter shaking down a Chinese company for millions, with about $5M coming in less than two weeks later.  None of this is conjecture.  These are facts. 

You're saying these facts will not lead to a criminal conviction.  I'm agreeing with you.  I'm saying these facts are overwhelming evidence of corruption.  [bTo conclude otherwise means you believe there is an innocent explanation for all of this.  I cannot think of one.

That's my frustration with all of this before and in the future.  Nothing gets done and nothing really changes.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on July 03, 2023, 03:11:54 PM
It's people like Nancy Pelosi.  Check her investment history.  It's remarkably prescient. 

And Maxine Waters.  How does that dummy become a multimillionaire??

A number of Republicans have done the same thing.  It's disgusting.

>:(
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 03, 2023, 04:35:27 PM
Let's compare post history Tom. Again with the liberal "I'm rubber you're glue" statement. ::)

Again with the TDfS response Fetter.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 04, 2023, 08:01:54 AM
That's my frustration with all of this before and in the future.  Nothing gets done and nothing really changes.
This is true. Until people come together and stand up we'll keep getting abused and turned against each other by our politicians and media. It's a controlled chaos and politicians have the controls.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 04, 2023, 07:08:45 PM
Holy smokes.  You're all over the place.  I never said being wealthy qualifies someone for public office.  The issue is whether someone is wealthy before taking office or becomes wealthy as a result of taking office. 

Like Bernie Sanders, who would have never in a million (so to speak) years been a multimillionaire if he wasn't a U.S. Senator. 

Same with Joe Biden, who is a dishonest idiot.  He would have been broke if not for his public office and particularly becoming VP.  But you don't care about his family collecting bags of cash because you're a blind partisan.   

Trump, on other hand, was wealthy before taking office and became LESS wealthy after taking office.

It is not just me; politics and politicians are all over the place.

I would be more worried if politicians were not paid for their work.  What is more, to mount winning campaign especially these days, someone wanting to become a politician literally must raise millions and sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions and given that, it is still a crap shoot because there is no guarantee they will win. If that were the case, who in their right mind would volunteer to run for political office? Oh wait, someone like Trump who some of believe is not in his right mind did... hmm.

Did you know that according to the FEC report Donald Trump laid out $94m in the last push for White House while Hillary Clinton spent $132m and cemented herself as biggest fundraiser. All that and she and those who contributed to her bid lost their bet. For investment verses chances of winning, Powerball probably has better odds.

In 2020 Biden’s campaign raised $169 billion while Trump’s campaign raised even more… $196 billion. Maybe the key is whoever raises the lesser amount in campaign contributions wins the race. LOL!

Look at the details involved in running for a congressional political office: https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registering-candidate/house-senate-president-candidate-registration/#:~:text=An%20individual%20running%20for%20a,%245%2C000%20in%20contributions%20or%20expenditures.

This is an interesting rub; A political organization is subject to tax on its political organization’s taxable income. Generally, this tax is calculated by multiplying the political organization taxable income by the highest rate of tax specified in §11(b).
 
Trump's purported net worth last April was around $2.5 billion according to Forbes (Trump maintains it is high than this), while Biden's is around $9 million (net worth in billions is around $0.009 (billion dollars). Bernie Sanders, who you mentioned, is worth about $3 million, $1 million from his book sales. Rhetorical question: how many millions does it take to make a billion?

$9 million dollars is nothing to sneeze at, but it is not a huge amount either. Over the course of his tenure, Biden's salary increased from $42,500 per year in 1973 to $174,000 per year, according to the Senate's historical records. When he was elected Vice President in 2008, he got another raise, earning roughly $230,000 a year. According to last year's income tax return in April, the Bidens earned nearly $580,000. Their income is drawn from investment interest, pensions, annuities, distributions from retirement accounts and social security as well as a corporation that collects their book royalties. Yes, he is paid Social Security even though he makes a heck of a lot of money. When someone reaches full retirement age, their earnings no longer reduce their benefits... makes no difference who you are or how much you earn or are worth. Should I go back to work? Not on your life!

 

 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 04, 2023, 09:42:13 PM
I don't give a flying fuck.

If someone committed a crime, they need to account for it.  Whether that be prison time or not.  And it doesn't matter if it's a current or former president.   

They must go through the due process of law.  Quips, hearsay, or gaffs aren't enough.  There must be tangible evidence of a crime.  If Joe Biden did sell "a lot of state secrets" then it must be proven in a court of law.  Simply posting vid of him saying it is not enough. 

Whatever comes of the Trump charges, if he is found guilty, he needs to spend time in prison period. 

Our choices for president have sucked ass for many terms.  Our government is like a Jerry Springer show.

2 thumbs up
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 05, 2023, 05:43:01 AM
Those state secrets are a much better investment than those silly nelly NFTs being sold.

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 05, 2023, 06:50:48 AM
Cart Biden and his coke out of the WH in a prison wheelchair and be done with it.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on July 05, 2023, 10:52:14 AM
It is not just me; politics and politicians are all over the place.

I would be more worried if politicians were not paid for their work.  What is more, to mount winning campaign especially these days, someone wanting to become a politician literally must raise millions and sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions and given that, it is still a crap shoot because there is no guarantee they will win. If that were the case, who in their right mind would volunteer to run for political office? Oh wait, someone like Trump who some of believe is not in his right mind did... hmm.

Did you know that according to the FEC report Donald Trump laid out $94m in the last push for White House while Hillary Clinton spent $132m and cemented herself as biggest fundraiser. All that and she and those who contributed to her bid lost their bet. For investment verses chances of winning, Powerball probably has better odds.

In 2020 Biden’s campaign raised $169 billion while Trump’s campaign raised even more… $196 billion. Maybe the key is whoever raises the lesser amount in campaign contributions wins the race. LOL!

Look at the details involved in running for a congressional political office: https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registering-candidate/house-senate-president-candidate-registration/#:~:text=An%20individual%20running%20for%20a,%245%2C000%20in%20contributions%20or%20expenditures.

This is an interesting rub; A political organization is subject to tax on its political organization’s taxable income. Generally, this tax is calculated by multiplying the political organization taxable income by the highest rate of tax specified in §11(b).
 
Trump's purported net worth last April was around $2.5 billion according to Forbes (Trump maintains it is high than this), while Biden's is around $9 million (net worth in billions is around $0.009 (billion dollars). Bernie Sanders, who you mentioned, is worth about $3 million, $1 million from his book sales. Rhetorical question: how many millions does it take to make a billion?

$9 million dollars is nothing to sneeze at, but it is not a huge amount either. Over the course of his tenure, Biden's salary increased from $42,500 per year in 1973 to $174,000 per year, according to the Senate's historical records. When he was elected Vice President in 2008, he got another raise, earning roughly $230,000 a year. According to last year's income tax return in April, the Bidens earned nearly $580,000. Their income is drawn from investment interest, pensions, annuities, distributions from retirement accounts and social security as well as a corporation that collects their book royalties. Yes, he is paid Social Security even though he makes a heck of a lot of money. When someone reaches full retirement age, their earnings no longer reduce their benefits... makes no difference who you are or how much you earn or are worth. Should I go back to work? Not on your life!

What was Trumps net worth before and after the presidency?

Also, Many of these elected politicians get $$$$ doors opened for them to speak at events, or write books because of being elected.

But as Beach Bum said, some on both sides abuse it and use it to amass wealth.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on July 05, 2023, 10:53:05 AM
Cart Biden and his coke out of the WH in a prison wheelchair and be done with it.

Coke at the white house is pretty alarming. 

They should have had cameras to help figure out who may have left it.

Quote
The substance was found near the ground floor entrance to the West Wing, a person familiar with the matter said. The location is where staff-led tours of the White House pass through on their way into the building.

The substance was found near where guests are asked to leave their cell phones before proceeding into the West Wing.

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 05, 2023, 11:34:36 AM
Coke at the white house is pretty alarming. 

They should have had cameras to help figure out who may have left it.

I'm sure they don't want cameras filming 23 hours of senior moments a day.

I'm surprised they haven't blamed it on Kudlow yet.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 05, 2023, 12:39:36 PM
What was Trumps net worth before and after the presidency?

Also, Many of these elected politicians get $$$$ doors opened for them to speak at events, or write books because of being elected.

But as Beach Bum said, some on both sides abuse it and use it to amass wealth.

It is difficult to know what Trump's net worth was and is because he isn't necessarily forthcoming about it. Based on Trump's one-page financial statement in 2015, it was $8,737,540,000. However, according to Forbes it was 4.5 billion in 2016 and $2.1 billion in 2020.

In December 2021 Donald Trump is released his first book since leaving the White House, 'Our Journey Together' is a coffee table-style collection of more than 300 photographs from his presidency. In 2022 it had supposedly grossed $20 million. In April 2022 Trump bragged that Our Journey Together had sold out its initial run of 240,000 copies. In April 2023 his book 'Letters to Trump' was published. It sells for $90 on Amazon. This is another "coffee  table" book of photos including a collection of correspondence between President Trump and the countless world leaders, celebrities, athletes, and business leaders who shaped the United States, and the world. Like his other book of photos, it has supposedly grossed $20 million. It made the New York times best seller list thanks to a big order from the RNC.

In 2021, Trump began touring with the American Freedom Tour. It has not been reported what his speaking fee was between leaving office and announcing his 2024 bid for the presidency in November. Trump held 40 rallies in 2018. According to his published rally and events schedule he has held 12 events. Unfortunately, the Save America rally schedule has not been updated since the June 10th rally. He has since held a rally in So. Carolina on July 1. https://mypatriotmarketplace.com/events/trump-rally-schedule-save-america/ Trump campaign officials said part of the reason he is not holding many rallies is because they are expensive, at half a million each. One might consider his daily Truth Social Rants to be campaign events. They likely reach more folks than an in person rally.

A New York Times best-seller, 'A Promised Land' is a memoir by Barack Obama, the 44th president of the United States. Published on November 17, 2020, it is the first of a planned two-volume series. The book is 768 pages and available in digital, paperback, and hardcover formats and has been translated into two dozen languages. I believe the only photo is that of him on the back cover. It took the famously contemplative and cerebral Barack Obama almost 4 years to write this memoir. More than 3.3 million copies of his book have sold.

Former President Barack was reportedly set to be paid $1.2 million for a series of three speeches to major Wall Street firms, less than a year after he left the White House.


Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 05, 2023, 02:55:02 PM
It is not just me; politics and politicians are all over the place.

I would be more worried if politicians were not paid for their work.  What is more, to mount winning campaign especially these days, someone wanting to become a politician literally must raise millions and sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions and given that, it is still a crap shoot because there is no guarantee they will win. If that were the case, who in their right mind would volunteer to run for political office? Oh wait, someone like Trump who some of believe is not in his right mind did... hmm.

Did you know that according to the FEC report Donald Trump laid out $94m in the last push for White House while Hillary Clinton spent $132m and cemented herself as biggest fundraiser. All that and she and those who contributed to her bid lost their bet. For investment verses chances of winning, Powerball probably has better odds.

In 2020 Biden’s campaign raised $169 billion while Trump’s campaign raised even more… $196 billion. Maybe the key is whoever raises the lesser amount in campaign contributions wins the race. LOL!

Look at the details involved in running for a congressional political office: https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registering-candidate/house-senate-president-candidate-registration/#:~:text=An%20individual%20running%20for%20a,%245%2C000%20in%20contributions%20or%20expenditures.

This is an interesting rub; A political organization is subject to tax on its political organization’s taxable income. Generally, this tax is calculated by multiplying the political organization taxable income by the highest rate of tax specified in §11(b).
 
Trump's purported net worth last April was around $2.5 billion according to Forbes (Trump maintains it is high than this), while Biden's is around $9 million (net worth in billions is around $0.009 (billion dollars). Bernie Sanders, who you mentioned, is worth about $3 million, $1 million from his book sales. Rhetorical question: how many millions does it take to make a billion?

$9 million dollars is nothing to sneeze at, but it is not a huge amount either. Over the course of his tenure, Biden's salary increased from $42,500 per year in 1973 to $174,000 per year, according to the Senate's historical records. When he was elected Vice President in 2008, he got another raise, earning roughly $230,000 a year. According to last year's income tax return in April, the Bidens earned nearly $580,000. Their income is drawn from investment interest, pensions, annuities, distributions from retirement accounts and social security as well as a corporation that collects their book royalties. Yes, he is paid Social Security even though he makes a heck of a lot of money. When someone reaches full retirement age, their earnings no longer reduce their benefits... makes no difference who you are or how much you earn or are worth. Should I go back to work? Not on your life!

Campaign fundraising has nothing to do with whether a candidate was wealthy before taking office or become wealthy as a result of taking office.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 05, 2023, 03:56:45 PM
I don't give a flying fuck.

If someone committed a crime, they need to account for it.  Whether that be prison time or not.  And it doesn't matter if it's a current or former president.   

They must go through the due process of law.  Quips, hearsay, or gaffs aren't enough.  There must be tangible evidence of a crime.  If Joe Biden did sell "a lot of state secrets" then it must be proven in a court of law.  Simply posting vid of him saying it is not enough. 

Whatever comes of the Trump charges, if he is found guilty, he needs to spend time in prison period. 

Our choices for president have sucked ass for many terms.  Our government is like a Jerry Springer show.
I agree. The agitation about all of this is what it takes to spur an investigation on one side vs the other. Seemingly any accusation from the left towards Trump requires millions of wasted tax dollars to look into it, while any accusations against Biden are sept under the rug by the media and disappear with no investigation.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 05, 2023, 04:16:02 PM
Campaign fundraising has nothing to do with whether a candidate was wealthy before taking office or become wealthy as a result of taking office.

Is is accurate to say you believe politicians should not be paid a salary and volunteer for the position? Like I said, good luck with finding folks willing to do that.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 05, 2023, 10:36:41 PM
Is is accurate to say you believe politicians should not be paid a salary and volunteer for the position? Like I said, good luck with finding folks willing to do that.

How on earth did you reach that conclusion??  I didn't say any such thing.  Pretty clear that you simply cannot understand the issue. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2023, 12:43:28 AM
How on earth did you reach that conclusion??  I didn't say any such thing.  Pretty clear that you simply cannot understand the issue.

Then help me out here, what is your issue? My take is that you fault Biden for being a career politician because this is how he amassed the pittance he has (as compared to Trump's billions). I get it because you are a conservative and many of you opt for less government.

For me wealth is not the issue because I believe politicians should be paid well for their service to the country.  My vote is for  someone with political experience over someone like Donald Trump who had none prior to being elected in November 2015.

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 06, 2023, 04:10:15 PM
How on earth did you reach that conclusion??  I didn't say any such thing.  Pretty clear that you simply cannot understand the issue.
It's the typical deflection/avoidance tactic. Pretend to not know what you're talking about, ask you to explain is 30 times, then still deny what you're saying. It's old and tired, like Biden.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2023, 04:25:22 PM
It's the typical deflection/avoidance tactic. Pretend to not know what you're talking about, ask you to explain is 30 times, then still deny what you're saying. It's old and tired, like Biden.

You are old and tired, like Biden and Trump.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 06, 2023, 04:27:13 PM
You are old and tired, like Biden and Trump.
You're old enough to be wes grandfather, settle down.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2023, 04:41:48 PM
You're old enough to be wes grandfather, settle down.

Granted I was somewhat promiscuous when I was a kid but my being Wes' grandfather is a stretch. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 07, 2023, 02:35:43 AM
Then help me out here, what is your issue? My take is that you fault Biden for being a career politician because this is how he amassed the pittance he has (as compared to Trump's billions). I get it because you are a conservative and many of you opt for less government.

For me wealth is not the issue because I believe politicians should be paid well for their service to the country.  My vote is for  someone with political experience over someone like Donald Trump who had none prior to being elected in November 2015.

I'm sounding like a broken record.  The issue is not whether someone gets paid to work a government job.  The issue is someone using their taxpayer funded job to create wealth that they otherwise never would have earned.  That contradicts the entire notion of being a public servant.  Public service jobs are not designed to make people wealthy.   

We know that Trump was a billionaire before taking office.  He did not profit from becoming POTUS.  He lost money.  I'm much less concerned about people like him, because he has no incentive to try and exploit his public service job to try and become wealthy.   

We know that Biden had very little for his entire service as a Senator and as VP.  Then his income skyrocketed and he earned many millions after leaving office.  That only happened because he used his taxpayer funded job as leverage to collect bags of cash from foreign individuals and adversaries. 

How do you think Biden earned his millions after leaving office?  And don't give me some cut and paste you pulled off the internet. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 07, 2023, 02:36:13 AM
It's the typical deflection/avoidance tactic. Pretend to not know what you're talking about, ask you to explain is 30 times, then still deny what you're saying. It's old and tired, like Biden.

Happens all the time. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 07, 2023, 05:24:13 PM
I'm sounding like a broken record.  The issue is not whether someone gets paid to work a government job.  The issue is someone using their taxpayer funded job to create wealth that they otherwise never would have earned.  That contradicts the entire notion of being a public servant.  Public service jobs are not designed to make people wealthy.   

We know that Trump was a billionaire before taking office.  He did not profit from becoming POTUS.  He lost money.  I'm much less concerned about people like him, because he has no incentive to try and exploit his public service job to try and become wealthy.   

We know that Biden had very little for his entire service as a Senator and as VP.  Then his income skyrocketed and he earned many millions after leaving office.  That only happened because he used his taxpayer funded job as leverage to collect bags of cash from foreign individuals and adversaries. 

How do you think Biden earned his millions after leaving office?  And don't give me some cut and paste you pulled off the internet.

I also don't want to sound like a broken record. Therefore, I will not answer your question, beyond saying Biden has been in public service all these years because enough people willingly voted to keep him in office. He is one among many. But he is also near the end of his career in politics. Many other politicians are just starting or halfway through theirs. If you don't like this, fight for change. Lobby for term limits. Not many politicians are going to set term limits on their own.

Maybe or maybe not adding to his wealth Trump's motivation. There are some folks who no matter how wealthy they become are never satisfied. And then there are folks whose egos motivate them to seek more and more power and like the saying goes, 'power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely'.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 07, 2023, 05:30:30 PM
I also don't want to sound like a broken record. Therefore, I will not answer your question, beyond saying Biden has been in public service all these years because enough people willingly voted to keep him in office. He is one among many. But he is also near the end of his career in politics. Many other politicians are just starting or halfway through theirs. If you don't like this, fight for change. Lobby for term limits. Not many politicians are going to set term limits on their own.

Maybe or maybe not adding to his wealth Trump's motivation. There are some folks who no matter how wealthy they become are never satisfied. And then there are folks whose egos motivate them to seek more and more power and like the saying goes, 'power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely'.

Of course you’re not going to say how Biden earned tens of millions after leaving public office.  Anyone taking an honest look at this knows something is wrong.  There is obvious corruption here.  But like I said, rest easy.  Nothing will happen.  There will be no accountability. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 07, 2023, 07:26:16 PM
Of course you’re not going to say how Biden earned tens of millions after leaving public office.  Anyone taking an honest look at this knows something is wrong.  There is obvious corruption here.  But like I said, rest easy.  Nothing will happen.  There will be no accountability.

Already said it (in detail) and I am not going to say it again.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 08, 2023, 12:54:41 AM
Already said it (in detail) and I am not going to say it again.

Here is what you said.  Unless I’m missing something, you do not say where you think the millions came from, essentially overnight, after he left public office.  But like I said, I understand why you refuse to say.  It’s too damning.

It is not just me; politics and politicians are all over the place.

I would be more worried if politicians were not paid for their work.  What is more, to mount winning campaign especially these days, someone wanting to become a politician literally must raise millions and sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions and given that, it is still a crap shoot because there is no guarantee they will win. If that were the case, who in their right mind would volunteer to run for political office? Oh wait, someone like Trump who some of believe is not in his right mind did... hmm.

Did you know that according to the FEC report Donald Trump laid out $94m in the last push for White House while Hillary Clinton spent $132m and cemented herself as biggest fundraiser. All that and she and those who contributed to her bid lost their bet. For investment verses chances of winning, Powerball probably has better odds.

In 2020 Biden’s campaign raised $169 billion while Trump’s campaign raised even more… $196 billion. Maybe the key is whoever raises the lesser amount in campaign contributions wins the race. LOL!

Look at the details involved in running for a congressional political office: https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registering-candidate/house-senate-president-candidate-registration/#:~:text=An%20individual%20running%20for%20a,%245%2C000%20in%20contributions%20or%20expenditures.

This is an interesting rub; A political organization is subject to tax on its political organization’s taxable income. Generally, this tax is calculated by multiplying the political organization taxable income by the highest rate of tax specified in §11(b).
 
Trump's purported net worth last April was around $2.5 billion according to Forbes (Trump maintains it is high than this), while Biden's is around $9 million (net worth in billions is around $0.009 (billion dollars). Bernie Sanders, who you mentioned, is worth about $3 million, $1 million from his book sales. Rhetorical question: how many millions does it take to make a billion?

$9 million dollars is nothing to sneeze at, but it is not a huge amount either. Over the course of his tenure, Biden's salary increased from $42,500 per year in 1973 to $174,000 per year, according to the Senate's historical records. When he was elected Vice President in 2008, he got another raise, earning roughly $230,000 a year. According to last year's income tax return in April, the Bidens earned nearly $580,000. Their income is drawn from investment interest, pensions, annuities, distributions from retirement accounts and social security as well as a corporation that collects their book royalties. Yes, he is paid Social Security even though he makes a heck of a lot of money. When someone reaches full retirement age, their earnings no longer reduce their benefits... makes no difference who you are or how much you earn or are worth. Should I go back to work? Not on your life!
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2023, 12:42:35 PM
Here is what you said.  Unless I’m missing something, you do not say where you think the millions came from, essentially overnight, after he left public office.  But like I said, I understand why you refuse to say.  It’s too damning.

Thank you for reminding me that sometimes less is more. My rambling in that reply may have obscured the part that addresses how Joe and Jill Biden could possibly have accumulated $9 m.

$9 million dollars is nothing to sneeze at, but it is not a huge amount either. Over the course of his tenure, Biden's salary increased from $42,500 per year in 1973 to $174,000 per year, according to the Senate's historical records. When he was elected Vice President in 2008, he got another raise, earning roughly $230,000 a year. According to last year's income tax return in April, the Bidens earned nearly $580,000. Their income is drawn from investment interest, pensions, annuities, distributions from retirement accounts and social security as well as a corporation that collects their book royalties. Yes, he is paid Social Security even though he makes a heck of a lot of money. When someone reaches full retirement age, their earnings no longer reduce their benefits... makes no difference who you are or how much you earn or are worth. Should I go back to work? Not on your life!
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 10, 2023, 08:32:26 AM
Thank you for reminding me that sometimes less is more. My rambling in that reply may have obscured the part that addresses how Joe and Jill Biden could possibly have accumulated $9 m.

Your post only discusses how much money Biden made during his time in office.  He didn't make his millions until after he left office. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Gym Rat on July 10, 2023, 09:56:42 AM

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 10, 2023, 04:47:14 PM
Your post only discusses how much money Biden made during his time in office.  He didn't make his millions until after he left office.

Thought I covered this but if I did not, here you go:

Joe and Jill Biden signed a multi-book deal with Flatiron Books in the “high seven figures,” according to Keith Urbahn, a literary agent who specializes in political books. Rumor has it the book deal was for $8 million. Altogether between 2017 and 2019, more than $15.6 million from speaking fees and book deals.

Another house that Biden bought in Wilmington, Del., for $350,000 in 1996 is now worth almost $1.9 million, according to an estimate by the real estate website Zillow.

Based on Joe Biden's real estate holdings and book deal, Joe and Jill Biden have a total net worth of between $7 – 9 million.

In February 2017, Joe Biden was also named the Benjamin Franklin Presidential Practice Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, a post that earned him a $372,000 salary that year.

Both Joe and Jill Biden were paid and continue to be paid Social Security that currently for both combined amounts to $54,665 and $27,332 each, (the max individual Social Security per year is $43,524 X 2= $87,048 so theirs is not that much).

The Biden's are most likely going to be even better off financially when he leaves office. Since being elected President, Biden's income is: As former Vice President Biden gets pension of $161,490 for life. The annual salary awarded to the President of the United States is $400,000 plus an expense allowance of $50,000.

It occurs to me if Joe Biden’s wealth was a result of influence peddling and they engaged in complicated financial transactions to hide these payments and avoid scrutiny, they must have done a poor job of hiding it since his detractors seem to think they know how much of his wealth was a result of this.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 10, 2023, 05:55:54 PM
Thought I covered this but if I did no, here you go:

Joe and Jill Biden signed a multi-book deal with Flatiron Books in the “high seven figures,” according to Keith Urbahn, a literary agent who specializes in political books. Rumor has it the book deal was for $8 million. Altogether between 2017 and 2019, more than $15.6 million from speaking fees and book deals.

Another house that Biden bought in Wilmington, Del., for $350,000 in 1996 is now worth almost $1.9 million, according to an estimate by the real estate website Zillow.

Based on Joe Biden's real estate holdings and book deal, Joe and Jill Biden have a total net worth of between $7 – 9 million.

In February 2017, Joe Biden was also named the Benjamin Franklin Presidential Practice Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, a post that earned him a $372,000 salary that year.

Both Joe and Jill Biden were paid and continue to be paid Social Security that currently for both combined amounts to $54,665 and $27,332 each, (the max individual Social Security per year is $43,524 X 2= $87,048 so theirs is not that much).

The Biden's are most likely going to be even better off financially when he leaves office. Since being elected President, Biden's income is: As former Vice President Biden gets pension of $161,490 for life. The annual salary awarded to the President of the United States is $400,000 plus an expense allowance of $50,000.

It occurs to me if Joe Biden’s wealth was a result of influence peddling and they engaged in complicated financial transactions to hide these payments and avoid scrutiny, they must have done a poor job of hiding it since his detractors seem to think they know how much of his wealth was a result of this.

Is this your writing or are you quoting someone else?  What is your source?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 10, 2023, 07:40:12 PM
Look up their finances with no eye to where you are looking (left or right sources) and you will find oodles of different figures. After considerable reading I went with the ones that were most often used and seemed somewhat reasonable. For example, one source stated Jill Biden's net worth at $50 million. Pretty sure college professors don't make that kind of money. It's possible she comes from money; I did not check. Anyway, I chose not to use that one because it is too far off from the others. Oh, and that article claimed she owns a home worth $8 million which also seemed unlikely to me.

Unless you are privy to someone's actual financial records, there is no way to know for sure what is accurate and what is bogus. Surprise, surprise, I and not the Biden's financial advisor, banker, accountant, tax preparer or close friend. But then, I suspect neither are you.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 11, 2023, 10:25:22 AM
Look up their finances with no eye to where you are looking (left or right sources) and you will find oodles of different figures. After considerable reading I went with the ones that were most often used and seemed somewhat reasonable. For example, one source stated Jill Biden's net worth at $50 million. Pretty sure college professors don't make that kind of money. It's possible she comes from money; I did not check. Anyway, I chose not to use that one because it is too far off from the others. Oh, and that article claimed she owns a home worth $8 million which also seemed unlikely to me.

Unless you are privy to someone's actual financial records, there is no way to know for sure what is accurate and what is bogus. Surprise, surprise, I and not the Biden's financial advisor, banker, accountant, tax preparer or close friend. But then, I suspect neither are you.

Which part of this is your writing and which part is quoting someone else? 

Can you provide a link to your source?

Thought I covered this but if I did no, here you go:

Joe and Jill Biden signed a multi-book deal with Flatiron Books in the “high seven figures,” according to Keith Urbahn, a literary agent who specializes in political books. Rumor has it the book deal was for $8 million. Altogether between 2017 and 2019, more than $15.6 million from speaking fees and book deals.

Another house that Biden bought in Wilmington, Del., for $350,000 in 1996 is now worth almost $1.9 million, according to an estimate by the real estate website Zillow.

Based on Joe Biden's real estate holdings and book deal, Joe and Jill Biden have a total net worth of between $7 – 9 million.

In February 2017, Joe Biden was also named the Benjamin Franklin Presidential Practice Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, a post that earned him a $372,000 salary that year.

Both Joe and Jill Biden were paid and continue to be paid Social Security that currently for both combined amounts to $54,665 and $27,332 each, (the max individual Social Security per year is $43,524 X 2= $87,048 so theirs is not that much).

The Biden's are most likely going to be even better off financially when he leaves office. Since being elected President, Biden's income is: As former Vice President Biden gets pension of $161,490 for life. The annual salary awarded to the President of the United States is $400,000 plus an expense allowance of $50,000.

It occurs to me if Joe Biden’s wealth was a result of influence peddling and they engaged in complicated financial transactions to hide these payments and avoid scrutiny, they must have done a poor job of hiding it since his detractors seem to think they know how much of his wealth was a result of this.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2023, 02:17:32 PM
Which part of this is your writing and which part is quoting someone else? 

Can you provide a link to your source?

Sources. And if I wanted to be bothered, I could go back and find multiple links to the sources. Do you think I made the numbers up? This would be an exercise in futility as would be taking the time to comply with your request.

Better yet, if you disagree with those numbers prove they are wrong and post the correct figures. As I already responded, not every article I read provides the same monetary numbers for Biden’s financial resources.

While I sometimes enjoy conversing with you on Getbig specially on the Politics and Political Issues Board, I have no expectation of ever changing your political views.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 11, 2023, 02:25:28 PM
Sources. And if I wanted to be bothered, I could go back and find multiple links to the sources. Do you think I made the numbers up? This would be an exercise in futility as would be taking the time to comply with your request.

Better yet, if you disagree with those numbers prove they are wrong and post the correct figures. As I already responded, not every article I read provides the same monetary numbers for Biden’s financial resources.

While I sometimes enjoy conversing with you on Getbig specially on the Politics and Political Issues Board, I have no expectation of ever changing your political views.

No one ever changes their political views on this board.  I'm certainly not trying to change anyone's mind about anything.  The only thing I do here and in real life is to try and get people to think.  That's why I have a number of very liberal/progressive friends.

But I see you are unwilling to say what you typed and what you likely plagiarized.  And you are not citing your source (or sources) because that would make it too obvious.  I actually just wanted to read them.  I'm one of the few on here who has actually read sources people post for about the last 17 years. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2023, 03:34:44 PM
No one ever changes their political views on this board.  I'm certainly not trying to change anyone's mind about anything.  The only thing I do here and in real life is to try and get people to think.  That's why I have a number of very liberal/progressive friends.

But I see you are unwilling to say what you typed and what you likely plagiarized.  And you are not citing your source (or sources) because that would make it too obvious.  I actually just wanted to read them.  I'm one of the few on here who has actually read sources people post for about the last 17 years.

Unwilling or not interested in spending my time doing something you could have easily done yourself. Some of today's results are different from the previous ones, but as I have mentioned when I did this the first time, I looked at a lot of search results and picked the ones that seemed to make the most sense... like in middle of the road figures as opposed to those on the high end or the low end. Sometimes I picked the figures that came up the most often. Given the wealth of information and misinformation on the internet this seemed the fairest approach to me.

Here you go you “lazy ass”.  ;D

Google: “how much were Joe and jill paid for their books by flatiron publishers?”
One result is: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/book-deals/article/73268-biden-books-go-to-flatiron.html

Google: how much did joe biden earn in speaking engagements between 2016 and 2020
A result is: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/09/bidens-earned-15-million-after-obama-administration-1404153

Google: how much is Biden’s Wilmington Delaware home worth 2023?
One result: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiPs-ue0YeAAxVlJDQIHcTZCZoQFnoECBUQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.homesandgardens.com%2Fnews%2Fjoe-biden-house%23%3A~%3Atext%3DJoe%2520Biden%2520purchased%2520four%2520acres%2Cworth%2520between%2520%25241%252D2%2520million.&usg=AOvVaw3ynp_eeTso0xNQXWP_2-pU&opi=89978449

“Based on Joe Biden's real estate holdings and book deal, Joe and Jill Biden have a total net worth of between $7 – 9 million.”
Do the math - it is not difficult.

This is a correction on the amount Biden was paid by the U of P based on today’s search. Biden “collected $371,159 in 2017 plus $540,484 in 2018
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-professor-university-pennsylvania/

Google Joe and Jill Biden’s Social Security benefits –
Result: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/much-social-security-president-joe-173101573.html#:~:text=On%20the%201040%20form%2C%20line,for%20each%20spouse%20per%20month.
Now google make social security benefit.
Result: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/social-security/maximum-social-security-benefit#:~:text=The%20maximum%20Social%20Security%20benefit%20in%202023%20is%20%243%2C627%20at,and%20when%20they%20take%20benefits.

Joe Biden’s VP pension update – it is more than I listed before: https://meetbeagle.com/resources/post/what-does-the-vice-president-make-in-retirement#:~:text=According%20to%20Forbes%2C%20Joe%20Biden,43%20years%20in%20public%20office.
Note: I threw in what he is currently paid just for the heck of it because it has nothing to do with earnings between 2016 and 2020.

I mentioned that I researched Jill Biden’s income and thought the results were off so I did not include this search before. But just for 'shits and giggles' here it is: https://caknowledge.com/jill-biden-net-worth/


Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 11, 2023, 06:42:54 PM
Unwilling or not interested in spending my time doing something you could have easily done yourself. Some of today's results are different from the previous ones, but as I have mentioned when I did this the first time, I looked at a lot of search results and picked the ones that seemed to make the most sense... like in middle of the road figures as opposed to those on the high end or the low end. Sometimes I picked the figures that came up the most often. Given the wealth of information and misinformation on the internet this seemed the fairest approach to me.

Here you go you “lazy ass”.  ;D

Google: “how much were Joe and jill paid for their books by flatiron publishers?”
One result is: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/book-deals/article/73268-biden-books-go-to-flatiron.html

Google: how much did joe biden earn in speaking engagements between 2016 and 2020
A result is: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/09/bidens-earned-15-million-after-obama-administration-1404153

Google: how much is Biden’s Wilmington Delaware home worth 2023?
One result: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiPs-ue0YeAAxVlJDQIHcTZCZoQFnoECBUQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.homesandgardens.com%2Fnews%2Fjoe-biden-house%23%3A~%3Atext%3DJoe%2520Biden%2520purchased%2520four%2520acres%2Cworth%2520between%2520%25241%252D2%2520million.&usg=AOvVaw3ynp_eeTso0xNQXWP_2-pU&opi=89978449

“Based on Joe Biden's real estate holdings and book deal, Joe and Jill Biden have a total net worth of between $7 – 9 million.”
Do the math - it is not difficult.

This is a correction on the amount Biden was paid by the U of P based on today’s search. Biden “collected $371,159 in 2017 plus $540,484 in 2018
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-professor-university-pennsylvania/

Google Joe and Jill Biden’s Social Security benefits –
Result: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/much-social-security-president-joe-173101573.html#:~:text=On%20the%201040%20form%2C%20line,for%20each%20spouse%20per%20month.
Now google make social security benefit.
Result: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/social-security/maximum-social-security-benefit#:~:text=The%20maximum%20Social%20Security%20benefit%20in%202023%20is%20%243%2C627%20at,and%20when%20they%20take%20benefits.

Joe Biden’s VP pension update – it is more than I listed before: https://meetbeagle.com/resources/post/what-does-the-vice-president-make-in-retirement#:~:text=According%20to%20Forbes%2C%20Joe%20Biden,43%20years%20in%20public%20office.
Note: I threw in what he is currently paid just for the heck of it because it has nothing to do with earnings between 2016 and 2020.

I mentioned that I researched Jill Biden’s income and thought the results were off so I did not include this search before. But just for 'shits and giggles' here it is: https://caknowledge.com/jill-biden-net-worth/

It's not easy for me to find links to stuff you pull off the internet.  It's not hard to provide a link, especially if you are plagiarizing stuff, which you have repeatedly done in the past. 

In any event, thanks for providing the links.  I reviewed them.  Nothing definitive there, including the Politico article that is speculating on the amount of Biden's book advance. 

For anyone who cares (which should be every American), there are numerous unanswered questions about the bags of cash the Biden family received after he left office.  If we actually had real journalists in this country, they would be all over it.  But the mainstream media is nothing more than an extension of the Democrat party. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2023, 07:57:57 PM
It's not easy for me to find links to stuff you pull off the internet.  It's not hard to provide a link, especially if you are plagiarizing stuff, which you have repeatedly done in the past. 

In any event, thanks for providing the links.  I reviewed them.  Nothing definitive there, including the Politico article that is speculating on the amount of Biden's book advance. 

For anyone who cares (which should be every American), there are numerous unanswered questions about the bags of cash the Biden family received after he left office.  If we actually had real journalists in this country, they would be all over it.  But the mainstream media is nothing more than an extension of the Democrat party.

Get off your high horse. Plagiarism is a violation of academic norms... nothing more. Getbig is not academia... not even close. In fact, many of the posts on these boards are so regressive and idiotic they would be better referred to as antiacademic. FYI plagiarism is not illegal unless it is lifted from something which has been copyrighted. So yeah, sometimes I cheat by cutting and pasting rather than rewording something just to make folks like you happy... or worse making it up like so many Getbiggers do. 

But hey, if you want to create a distraction from my post by accusing me of plagiarism because you have nothing else to use as a comeback, have at it. I am not offended.


"Bags of cash" really? Can you provide the link from where you lifted this dumbass comment? Is this something Trump said which you repeated? Careful that you don’t plagiarize on of his Truth Social all caps posts. 

BTW, it was extremely easy for me to find, for the second time, links which addressed and substantiated my previous post. Learn how to use Google. It might make this exercise a little easier for you. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 11, 2023, 08:08:25 PM
Get off your high horse. Plagiarism is a violation of academic norms... nothing more. Getbig is not academia... not even close. In fact, many of the posts on these boards are so regressive and idiotic they would be better referred to as antiacademic. FYI plagiarism is not illegal unless it is lifted from something which has been copyrighted. So yeah, sometimes I cheat by cutting and pasting rather than rewording something just to make folks like you happy... or worse making it up like so many Getbiggers do. 

But hey, if you want to create a distraction from my post by accusing me of plagiarism because you have nothing else to use as a comeback, have at it. I am not offended.


"Bags of cash" really? Can you provide the link from where you lifted this dumbass comment? Is this something Trump said which you repeated? Careful that you don’t plagiarize on of his Truth Social all caps posts. 

BTW, it was extremely easy for me to find, for the second time, links which addressed and substantiated my previous post. Learn how to use Google. It might make this exercise a little easier for you.

Go back to bed.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 11, 2023, 08:20:38 PM
Go back to bed.

It is only 8:30 pm. I'm not going to bed. Hmm, guess I pissed you off. And here I thought we were just having fun. Well okay, I do need to take a break and fix myself some dinner. After which, I will watch some gardening shows on TV. So you have my permission to go on a break. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 11, 2023, 08:25:04 PM
Get off your high horse. Plagiarism is a violation of academic norms... nothing more. Getbig is not academia... not even close. In fact, many of the posts on these boards are so regressive and idiotic they would be better referred to as antiacademic. FYI plagiarism is not illegal unless it is lifted from something which has been copyrighted. So yeah, sometimes I cheat by cutting and pasting rather than rewording something just to make folks like you happy... or worse making it up like so many Getbiggers do. 

But hey, if you want to create a distraction from my post by accusing me of plagiarism because you have nothing else to use as a comeback, have at it. I am not offended.


"Bags of cash" really? Can you provide the link from where you lifted this dumbass comment? Is this something Trump said which you repeated? Careful that you don’t plagiarize on of his Truth Social all caps posts. 

BTW, it was extremely easy for me to find, for the second time, links which addressed and substantiated my previous post. Learn how to use Google. It might make this exercise a little easier for you.

Good question
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 11, 2023, 10:37:30 PM
Bags of cash.  Hahahahahaha
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2023, 12:28:16 AM
Bags of cash.  Hahahahahaha

And not just a couple of bags, but enough bags to hold $9 or $10 million. Fantasytastic... not a word - but it fits.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 12, 2023, 07:46:41 AM
It is only 8:30 pm. I'm not going to bed. Hmm, guess I pissed you off. And here I thought we were just having fun. Well okay, I do need to take a break and fix myself some dinner. After which, I will watch some gardening shows on TV. So you have my permission to go on a break.

(https://media.tenor.com/pgqf6BDXADIAAAAC/the-office-steve-carell.gif)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on July 12, 2023, 09:31:00 AM
"...bags of cash..." is obviously a saying.

These are things that are fleshed out in a formal investigation.  As stated before, it's likely, not chargeable due to existing laws.  However, the company articles of incorporation and the financials should reveal a lot. 

I agree, common sense points to something amiss, but "common sense" also gives way to speculation fueled by one's political alignment. The actual facts here are critical to the truth of the matter.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 12, 2023, 10:11:57 AM
"...bags of cash..." is obviously a saying.

These are things that are fleshed out in a formal investigation.  As stated before, it's likely, not chargeable due to existing laws.  However, the company articles of incorporation and the financials should reveal a lot. 

I agree, common sense points to something amiss, but "common sense" also gives way to speculation fueled by one's political alignment. The actual facts here are critical to the truth of the matter.

Yes obviously a figure of speech. 

Ironically, political alignment will be what prevents us from learning the truth and will shield the Bidens from any consequences. 

No way does this stuff pass the smell test. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 12, 2023, 02:58:24 PM
"...bags of cash..." is obviously a saying.

These are things that are fleshed out in a formal investigation.  As stated before, it's likely, not chargeable due to existing laws.  However, the company articles of incorporation and the financials should reveal a lot. 

I agree, common sense points to something amiss, but "common sense" also gives way to speculation fueled by one's political alignment. The actual facts here are critical to the truth of the matter.

Exactly.   The evidence should be piling up by now.  But so far nothing but speculation, fantasy and desperate hopes.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Primemuscle on July 12, 2023, 07:08:31 PM
Exactly.   The evidence should be piling up by now.  But so far nothing but speculation, fantasy and desperate hopes.

The image that comes to me is one of taxpayer dollars going down the shitter. Most of these 'investigative' committees are a total waste of time, energy, and money... regardless they be instigated by Democrats or Republicans.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 13, 2023, 12:04:10 AM
The image that comes to me is one of taxpayer dollars going down the shitter. Most of these 'investigative' committees are a total waste of time, energy, and money... regardless they be instigated by Democrats or Republicans.

Well we see quite a few investigations continue to bear  fruit.   ;D

The ongoing election fraud one is really going to reap some rewards.  You know... the one about election interference and the extortion/bribery phone call and the bogus lawsuits and the fake electors and....and....   you know... the REAL election fraud that not a single Trumpturd addresses when it is brought up..... you know?     :D
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Gym Rat on July 13, 2023, 07:52:25 AM
The shitter says we're running out of time with this horrific threat, climate change!!  LOL   ::)

Dumbest retards in history...
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: OzmO on July 13, 2023, 09:19:15 AM
Yes obviously a figure of speech. 

Ironically, political alignment will be what prevents us from learning the truth and will shield the Bidens from any consequences. 

No way does this stuff pass the smell test.

If they can get it to the point of "discovery".  That's the key here.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 13, 2023, 10:07:20 AM
If they can get it to the point of "discovery".  That's the key here.

Meh.  I'm not holding my breath. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Gym Rat on July 13, 2023, 10:22:31 AM
shitters not doing too well it seems. Dead soon...

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 13, 2023, 02:24:48 PM
shitters not doing too well it seems. Dead soon...



Hopefully just a few months afte he wins election and we 3.5 years with Kamala.   ;)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: AbrahamG on July 13, 2023, 04:27:46 PM
Hopefully just a few months afte he wins election and we 3.5 years with Kamala.   ;)

That's when the dynasty really begins.  I'm getting an insatiable hard on thinking about 11.5 years of Harris rule. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 13, 2023, 05:20:50 PM
That's when the dynasty really begins.  I'm getting an insatiable hard on thinking about 11.5 years of Harris rule.
Are you looking forward to her passing more legislation to lock up even more of your kind for the possession of weed?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: AbrahamG on July 13, 2023, 05:47:45 PM
Are you looking forward to her passing more legislation to lock up even more of your kind for the possession of weed?

Yes Chaos I am.  I'm slowly becoming an Uncle Tom. Like Wiggs. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 13, 2023, 11:45:18 PM
Just wait until she picks Michelle Obama for her VP

If you think conservatards are crying now…. It will be grand. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2023, 03:41:39 PM
Yes Chaos I am.  I'm slowly becoming an Uncle Tom. Like Wiggs.
Slowly ???
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: illuminati on July 14, 2023, 04:17:29 PM
Whoever is controlling Joe
Has to be the worst ever Black ex president
From Martha's Vineyard in US history. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 14, 2023, 08:39:30 PM
Whoever is controlling Joe
Has to be the worst ever Black ex president
From Martha's Vineyard in US history.

Oh this is unquestionably Obama's third term.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 14, 2023, 08:45:41 PM
That's when the dynasty really begins.  I'm getting an insatiable hard on thinking about 11.5 years of Harris rule.

So you like bimbos? 

Jeremy Zogby, the managing partner of John Zogby Strategies, was even harder on Harris.

“She’s a major problem,” he said. “She’s not a good communicator. She can barely communicate a complicated idea. There’s a lot of cackling, there’s a lot of avoiding answering questions directly, there’s a lot of theatrics,” he added.


Kamala Harris is a lock for 2024, key to wooing women, youths
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist |
July 14, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/kamala-harris-is-a-lock-for-2024-key-to-wooing-women-youths
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 14, 2023, 08:46:26 PM
Oh this is unquestionably Obama's third term.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-received-a-devastating-ruling-from-the-bar-association-over-utter-disregard-for-facts-after-2020-election/ar-AA1dS5uD?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b54c19a72e5e4d8f8e60caebcf149828&ei=8
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 14, 2023, 08:47:53 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-received-a-devastating-ruling-from-the-bar-association-over-utter-disregard-for-facts-after-2020-election/ar-AA1dS5uD?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b54c19a72e5e4d8f8e60caebcf149828&ei=8

What does this have to do with Obama's third term?
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 14, 2023, 08:57:15 PM
What does this have to do with Obama's third term?


The worst political poster here. Bar none. Det. Banacek needs to change user name to slippery slope or boiling frog.
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 14, 2023, 08:57:59 PM
What does this have to do with Obama's third term?

what does your post have to do with "I sold a lot of state secrets..
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 14, 2023, 09:05:10 PM
what does your post have to do with "I sold a lot of state secrets..

I was responding to someone's comment.  You are such a troll.  lol
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 14, 2023, 09:23:56 PM
I was responding to someone's comment.  You are such a troll.  lol

So was I.. you are such an idiot
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 14, 2023, 09:24:41 PM
I was responding to someone's comment.  You are such a troll.  lol

damn.. forgot the all important "so was I"
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Dos Equis on July 14, 2023, 09:28:56 PM
So was I.. you are such an idiot

You responded to MY comment about this being Obama's third term with a link about Guiliani.  lol

It's pretty funny when people who are not very bright (like you) call others idiots.  Part of me thinks you are sharing your account with someone, because sometimes you say things that are halfway decent, then other times you sound like a real moron.  But hey this board never ceases to provide entertainment.   :)
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 14, 2023, 09:36:32 PM
You responded to MY comment about this being Obama's third term with a link about Guiliani.  lol

It's pretty funny when people who are not very bright (like you) call others idiots.  Part of me thinks you are sharing your account with someone, because sometimes you say things that are halfway decent, then other times you sound like a real moron.  But hey this board never ceases to provide entertainment.   :)

Irony is all over this post. Though you have once again thrown a gauntlet. The 1st was saying I lied which we both know I didn't. How do we know? I laid out a clear and concise response that clearly showed if one of us was lying it wasn't me. No one has refuted or attempted to refute it.

Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: AbrahamG on July 15, 2023, 01:01:29 AM
So you like bimbos? 

Jeremy Zogby, the managing partner of John Zogby Strategies, was even harder on Harris.

“She’s a major problem,” he said. “She’s not a good communicator. She can barely communicate a complicated idea. There’s a lot of cackling, there’s a lot of avoiding answering questions directly, there’s a lot of theatrics,” he added.


Kamala Harris is a lock for 2024, key to wooing women, youths
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist |
July 14, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/kamala-harris-is-a-lock-for-2024-key-to-wooing-women-youths

Yes sir. 
Title: Re: “I sold a lot of state secrets” - Joe Biden
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2023, 07:24:26 AM
You responded to MY comment about this being Obama's third term with a link about Guiliani.  lol

It's pretty funny when people who are not very bright (like you) call others idiots.  Part of me thinks you are sharing your account with someone, because sometimes you say things that are halfway decent, then other times you sound like a real moron.  But hey this board never ceases to provide entertainment.   :)
You'll have to forgive him, he was in law enforcement most of his life. ;)