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What is your favourite
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Low incline about 20-30 degrees.
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Flat.
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Low incline about 20-30 degrees.
This
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JOSWIFT IN 3,,2,,,1
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Incline is great for building huge front delts, better than overhead presses actually for the front delts, flat builds the entire chest including upper chest. To really hit lower chest you need to add some dips and dumbell pullover though, if you want sagging pectoral like Arnold and Ferrigno
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Incline is great for building huge front delts, better than overhead presses actually for the front delts, flat builds the entire chest including upper chest. To really hit lower chest you need to add some dips and dumbell pullover though, if you want sagging pectoral like Arnold and Ferrigno
BRO.....they both had great chests in there 20's up to 50 ish...
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JOSWIFT IN 3,,2,,,1
Haha.
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BRO.....they both had great chests in there 20's up to 50 ish...
Also great chests: Franco, Ronnie, Art Atwood
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Just do conjugate and rotate
Bench
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Low incline about 20-30 degrees.
X 3
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I actually find incline press more natural to do than flat presses.
Talking a barbell here but flat press I liked a machine in the gym.
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Decline press is amazing. If you look at how the majority of the pec pulls it's an amazing exercise. It also is king if you have shoulder issues.
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;D steve reeves says it has to be 45 degrees, none other will do for this buckaroo.
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JOSWIFT IN 3,,2,,,1
and...here we go....
The pecs are a downward pushing muscle, put your finger on your pec and push downwards, its the only way to fully flex your chest
Pushing outwards or upwards does next to fuck all to your pec
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and...here we go....
The pecs are a downward pushing muscle, put your finger on your pec and push downwards, its the only way to fully flex your chest
Pushing outwards or upwards does next to fuck all to your pec
Didn't help him though..he dead bro
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Didn't help him though..he dead bro
He died knowing how a pec worked.... ;D
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He died knowing how a pec worked.... ;D
He who dies fittest..still dies
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He who dies fittest..still dies
a flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long
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I'm not saying Doug Brignole was wrong, he was a smart guy but very radical at times.
He was of course selling his book & other stuff.
His leg training is interesting
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I'm not saying Doug Brignole was wrong, he was a smart guy but very radical at times.
He was of course selling his book & other stuff.
His leg training is interesting
you can just flex your pec and prove it for yourself
Everything he claims is demonstrably correct
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Incline is more natural a movement. If you ever push something or someone you never have your posture fully erect. You naturally lean in towards to give you a wider base. I think it’s better for your shoulder joints too.
I actually prefer the flat though
I’m sure decline could possibly be better than both it’s just an awkward
exercise
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Incline is more natural a movement. If you ever push something or someone you never have your posture fully erect. You naturally lean in towards to give you a wider base. I think it’s better for your shoulder joints too.
I actually prefer the flat though
I’m sure decline could possibly be better than both it’s just an awkward
exercise
to bring your much stronger delts into play
Declines all the way for pecs
Oh, and never press overhead, it will fuck up your shoulders, we would never press overhead in the wild
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to bring your much stronger delts into play
Declines all the way for pecs
Oh, and never press overhead, it will fuck up your shoulders, we would never press overhead in the wild
Flat bench is better for isolating pecs and I agree with you that decline is best.
But practicality and overall for delts/pecs/tris overall powerful look comes from inclines
I don’t agree that we wouldn’t push overhead in the wild. We developed better shoulders through throwing spears/rocks and we would have thrown overhead quite frequently
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That's why machine dips are the best chest exercise especially if you're bending slightly at the waist--the pushing down movement is by far the best contraction for chest.
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That's why machine dips are the best chest exercise especially if you're bending slightly at the waist--the pushing down movement is by far the best contraction for chest.
If we’re talking chest only dips and decline best but powerhouse look comes from incline. Makes you look fierce
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Flat bench is better for isolating pecs and I agree with you that decline is best.
But practicality and overall for delts/pecs/tris overall powerful look comes from inclines
I don’t agree that we wouldn’t push overhead in the wild. We developed better shoulders through throwing spears/rocks and we would have thrown overhead quite frequently
and we would have had to lean right back to do that
Come on, imagine doing it , we throw straight or incline or down
Not a lot of delts involved in throwing a javelin
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If we’re talking chest only dips and decline best but powerhouse look comes from incline. Makes you look fierce
you are getting mixed up with Tribal Tattoos.
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If we’re talking chest only dips and decline best but powerhouse look comes from incline. Makes you look fierce
I guess the incline gets the top part of the chest but wherever I do incline, I don't feel like I'm working chest at much. Feels like I'm missing something. Then again, my chest is horrible so I'm not one to talk.
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I guess the incline gets the top part of the chest but wherever I do incline, I don't feel like I'm working chest at much. Feels like I'm missing something. Then again, my chest is horrible so I'm not one to talk.
If I do them, I put it on a very marginal incline, like the first setting.
If higher, it feels more like a front-delt exercise..
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and we would have had to lean right back to do that
Come on, imagine doing it , we throw straight or incline or down
Not a lot of delts involved in throwing a javelin
It’s something I’ve been thinking about more lately it’s a coincidence this thread popped up
Because I just went back free bar benching for the first time in a long time maybe 2 years and was telling a guy I’m training I was considering implementing declines for the first time.
Especially with my pec tear I should probably be doing more decline and dips to isolate it more as it hasn’t been really improving.
Always open to other theories
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I guess the incline gets the top part of the chest but wherever I do incline, I don't feel like I'm working chest at much. Feels like I'm missing something. Then again, my chest is horrible so I'm not one to talk.
Jo has me thinking now though. I don’t think decline will help delts as much but my delts are not my weak point it’s my chest as I’ve a tear.
Incline gave me good width though
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If I do them, I put it on a very marginal incline, like the first setting.
If higher, it feels more like a front-delt exercise..
Yes a modest incline seems best.
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Jo has me thinking now though. I don’t think decline will help delts as much but my delts are not my weak point it’s my chest as I’ve a tear.
Incline gave me good width though
My shoulders definitely over power my chest and it's been an ongoing battle that has never been rectified.
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My shoulders definitely over power my chest and it's been an ongoing battle that has never been rectified.
I’m the same I’m gonna change it up now to dips and decline I remember a time I did dips with bw+50kg for reps and my chest was way better. The tear put me off all of that but it’s good now
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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CezOpbDBAFu/?igshid=Y2I2MzMwZWM3ZA==
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I'm not saying Doug Brignole was wrong, he was a smart guy but very radical at times.
He was of course selling his book & other stuff.
His leg training is interesting
He was against incline pec presses in his later years but if you look at his pec through the years his muscle mass in his upper pec definitely dissipated because of that. He did sing the praises of the decline just like Yates.
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He was against incline pec presses in his later years but if you look at his pec through the years his muscle mass in his upper pec definitely dissipated because of that. He did sing the praises of the decline just like Yates.
Even in his younger years, Doug’s chest was always lagging in thickness and in his case is just poor genetics. He would make up for it with his conditioning and posing to take away from his lack of thickness and ability to hide a weak bodypart. Zane did the same thing
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He was against incline pec presses in his later years but if you look at his pec through the years his muscle mass in his upper pec definitely dissipated because of that. He did sing the praises of the decline just like Yates.
He was against anything old school & anything that wasn't going to help sales of his E-book which as far as I know was never published as a real hard cover book.
If you look in most gyms the flat bench is still the most popular amongst hard core trainers.
I train now primarily at home but when I was in the gym I hardly ever saw anyone use the decline bench, dip machines or free dips yes.
Lying head down is just not a good feeling for most people.
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Declines and dips.
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Declines and dips.
What about decline flyes?
Never see anyone do these.
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He was against anything old school & anything that wasn't going to help sales of his E-book which as far as I know was never published as a real hard cover book.
If you look in most gyms the flat bench is still the most popular amongst hard core trainers.
I train now primarily at home but when I was in the gym I hardly ever saw anyone use the decline bench, dip machines or free dips yes.
Lying head down is just not a good feeling for most people.
Eric Weinstien suggests using people with Autism to study physics and science, its because they think outside the box and are more likely to conquer gravity and space travel rather than someone with a standard education.
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Eric Weinstien suggests using people with Autism to study physics and science, its because they think outside the box and are more likely to conquer gravity and space travel rather than someone with a standard education.
Probably have poor chest development like Doug did too.
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A perfect chest from top to bottom..no weak points here.
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No this thread is Infinity.
Dude you`re Brainwashed :D
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No this thread is Infinity.
Dude you`re Brainwashed :D
love to hear your arguments against anything he says either scientifically or broscience
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love to hear your arguments against anything he says either scientifically or broscience
He Died ???
wasn´t natural but still a shit chest ???
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He Died ???
wasn´t natural but still a shit chest ???
everyone dies you muppet
shit chest?
You are aware we are all stck with the hand you are dealt?
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I will say a parallel grip is good on a flat bench.
Nautilus press has a parallel grip .. RIP Art Jones
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Best chest movements in my eyes are high cable flyes,dips and low incline db press. Best pump is from the first two as I don’t get much of a pump from incline dbs as my shoulders seem to take over but I do notice thicker upper pecs when doing them as opposed to not doing them.
With all that said I have done dips extremely heavy and high volume for 30 years and it has made my pecs very large but also gravity takes over at some point and you get the saggy pec look so best not to get pecs to big anyways.
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everyone dies you muppet
shit chest?
You are aware we are all stck with the hand you are dealt?
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& his super training could not help it... :D
WOW...you are melting bro
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Best chest movements in my eyes are high cable flyes,dips and low incline db press. Best pump is from the first two as I don’t get much of a pump from incline dbs as my shoulders seem to take over but I do notice thicker upper pecs when doing them as opposed to not doing them.
With all that said I have done dips extremely heavy and high volume for 30 years and it has made my pecs very large but also gravity takes over at some point and you get the saggy pec look so best not to get pecs to big anyways.
would it not be better to concentrate on upper chest movements in later life?
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would it not be better to concentrate on upper chest movements in later life?
Yes I think it would be. But I did so much flat pressing up to 500lbs and dips with 200 lbs hanging off me at 275 that I am middle lower chest dominant as hell as most are and no matter how much incline you do you won’t be able to counter it. So if I could go back I would do mostly incline presses and high cable flyes. I do like the heavy pec look so I’m ok with it but I prefer a shoulder dominant physique not chest but my chest is very dominant unfortunately hence why I do so much shoulder work now and not as much chest.
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Yes I think it would be. But I did so much flat pressing up to 500lbs and dips with 200 lbs hanging off me at 275 that I am middle lower chest dominant as hell as most are and no matter how much incline you do you won’t be able to counter it. So if I could go back I would do mostly incline presses and high cable flyes. I do like the heavy pec look so I’m ok with it but I prefer a shoulder dominant physique not chest but my chest is very dominant unfortunately hence why I do so much shoulder work now and not as much chest.
A good honest answer but you got good genetics i think & it turns out as it will.
I feel better doing inclines, the path of the bar is more natural to me & as i wrote on flat benches i like a parallel grip.
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I haven`t done benches in over 10 years and I have decent pecs.
I concentrate on upper pecs with Smith Inclines and Dumbell Inclines.......I also do heavy Flyes and just started dipping again.
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A good honest answer but you got good genetics i think & it turns out as it will.
I feel better doing inclines, the path of the bar is more natural to me & as i wrote on flat benches i like a parallel grip.
Incline is definitely much more natural to me than flat or decline presses as well. I’ve always felt that way. I have always done incline but since I did not get much pump from it I did more flat and dips. Dips to me are the holy grail of chest if looking for the most size possible.
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Incline is definitely much more natural to me than flat or decline presses as well. I’ve always felt that way. I have always done incline but since I did not get much pump from it I did more flat and dips. Dips to me are the holy grail of chest if looking for the most size possible.
I have parallel bars at home too, great exercise which hits everything upper body.
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would it not be better to concentrate on upper chest movements in later life?
try and flex your upper pecs on their own
The pecs are a fan attacment at the sternum and a tendon attachment at the arm
you cant flex part of it in isolation.
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try and flex your upper pecs on their own
The pecs are a fan attacment at the sternum and a tendon attachment at the arm
you cant flex part of it in isolation.
Therefor if i do an incline press or flat press it must all fire.. so therefor why should a lower pec exercise be better? ::)
so the only logical conclusion can be that a Fly exercise is superior, bringing the hands close together.
probably why i like parallel close grip flat presses using a Tricep bar ( i do not have a swiss bar)
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Therefor if i do an incline press or flat press it must all fire.. so therefor why should a lower pec exercise be better? ::)
so the only logical conclusion can be that a Fly exercise is superior, bringing the hands close together.
probably why i like parallel close grip flat presses using a Tricep bar ( i do not have a swiss bar)
nope its almost all delts, almost zero chest is involved
Watch the video , if you had you wouldnt have posted that
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nope its almost all delts, almost zero chest is involved
Watch the video , if you had you wouldnt have posted that
I know his theories very well.
Therefor your answer was not correct. I know your training ideas of it all fires, there is no higher muscle activation at angles.
I have been around these forums for years my friend & i know you.
what was your answers one time on biceps....ahh let me think ;)
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I know his theories very well.
Therefor your answer was not correct. I know your training ideas of it all fires, there is no higher muscle activation at angles.
I have been around these forums for years my friend & i know you.
what was your answers one time on biceps....ahh let me think ;)
Jeez, you should get out more.....
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Jeez, you should get out more.....
;D
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:D
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Prefer flat out the two, find adding weighted dips in has made better chest result in last 6 months than the 20 odd years prior really wish had done sooner
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This has always been a goofy exercise for me but I've used dumbbells with a reverse grip.
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;D steve reeves says it has to be 45 degrees, none other will do for this buckaroo.
Reeves doing his favorite incline db curls.
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A perfect chest from top to bottom..no weak points here.
Nubret one of the best ever.
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Makes it look so easy
eature=share
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Nubret one of the best ever.
Apparently did medium weights with fairly high reps.
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Tbh the best exercise for chest and upper body is bench press
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Tbh the best exercise for chest and upper body is bench press
I concentrated on incline press today.
As i wrote before the path of the bar is natural for me.
I think there are better overall exercises for pecs than incline benches but i like it.
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I concentrated on incline press today.
As i wrote before the path of the bar is natural for me.
I think there are better overall exercises for pecs than incline benches but i like it.
It depends on the person tbh, I avoid inclines because they just make my front delts bigger, they don't do anything for my chest at all
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It depends on the person tbh, I avoid inclines because they just make my front delts bigger, they don't do anything for my chest at all
yeah but as wrote by people on the thread, it depends on the angle.
most Gyms have set benches at too high an angle in my opinion.
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yeah but as wrote by people on the thread, it depends on the angle.
most Gyms have set benches at too high an angle in my opinion.
I'm weird in the sense that my upper pecs are dominant, but i need more lower chest, I always need more lower chest, but I got plenty of upper chest
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I'm weird in the sense that my upper pecs are dominant, but i need more lower chest, I always need more lower chest, but I got plenty of upper chest
yeah no one person is the same
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I'm weird in the sense that my upper pecs are dominant, but i need more lower chest, I always need more lower chest, but I got plenty of upper chest
You should try hanging by your neck with a noose. Cinch it real tight and let your feet hang at least 6 inches to activate the lower pecs.
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Pamith this is a joke. It does not activate your pecs, this exercise may lead to death. Stop pming for sets and reps.
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You should try hanging by your neck with a noose. Cinch it real tight and let your feet hang at least 6 inches to activate the lower pecs.
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:D
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You should try hanging by your neck with a noose. Cinch it real tight and let your feet hang at least 6 inches to activate the lower pecs.
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Pamith this is a joke. It does not activate your pecs, this exercise may lead to death. Stop pming for sets and reps.
Hahahhahaha. Pamith it works trust me. Dave sent me this routine a few years back. Follow it to the T.
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Jay Knows the real deal
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Reg Park said where you lower the bar in a flat bench determines the muscle concentration.
To hit the upper chest he said to lower the bar to the neck.
If you do this use very light weights.
(https://cdn.muscleandstrength.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/reg-park_2.jpg)
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Reg Park said where you lower the bar in a flat bench determines the muscle concentration.
To hit the upper chest he said to lower the bar to the neck.
If you do this use very light weights.
(https://cdn.muscleandstrength.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/reg-park_2.jpg)
yes the press to neck or Guillotine press
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Reg Park said where you lower the bar in a flat bench determines the muscle concentration.
To hit the upper chest he said to lower the bar to the neck.
If you do this use very very heavy light weights.
(https://cdn.muscleandstrength.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/reg-park_2.jpg)
Brian take note
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yes the press to neck or Guillotine press
Shoulder destroyer
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Shoulder destroyer
I have to agree :)
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Shoulder destroyer
Use very light weight.
Like the behind neck press, if you are not used to it you have to start light and build up gradually.
Most people cannot even get an empty bar to the neck because they are too tight.
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Use very light weight.
Like the behind neck press, if you are not used to it you have to start light and build up gradually.
or not do them at all
Fucks sake military press is bad enough, now you want people to do PBN :o
talk about asking for trouble
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or not do them at all
Fucks sake military press is bad enough, now you want people to do PBN :o
talk about asking for trouble
Now don't get your knickers all in a twist about it.
:D
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Use very light weight.
Like the behind neck press, if you are not used to it you have to start light and build up gradually.
Most people cannot even get an empty bar to the neck because they are too tight.
you are correct in that most people, including myself have poor flexiblity in the shoulders.
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Try decines to the neck,but go light and do higher reps......to me this is the only way declines are effective......just my 3 CC`s !!
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or not do them at all
Fucks sake military press is bad enough, now you want people to do PBN :o
talk about asking for trouble
Everyone is different. Since I switched to behind the neck presses on a smith machine I've had zero neck issue and zero shoulder pain. Granted, I don't go heavy and focus more on the pump but I used to constantly tweak shit doing them to the front or even with dumbells.
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Everyone is different. Since I switched to behind the neck presses on a smith machine I've had zero neck issue and zero shoulder pain. Granted, I don't go heavy and focus more on the pump but I used to constantly tweak shit doing them to the front or even with dumbells.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbeHz5SCYAA64nI.jpg)
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I guess I'll ditch the btn smith presses. I don't want to turn black.
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The pectorals contract differently if you bring your arm down and across vs bringing your arm across your body at collarbone level. Try it in a mirror.
I think flat bench/dips build more chest mass overall but incline work is important too
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbeHz5SCYAA64nI.jpg)
Dude... :D
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbeHz5SCYAA64nI.jpg)
He must do lots of shrugs.
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The pectorals contract differently if you bring your arm down and across vs bringing your arm across your body at collarbone level. Try it in a mirror.
I think flat bench/dips build more chest mass overall but incline work is important too
Yeah I agree flat or dips are superior mass builders but I'm not after big hanging tits like Arnold :D
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He must do lots of shrugs.
upright rows
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Is it illegal to do both?
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Is it illegal to do both?
stop thinking outside the box
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Incline is King :D
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Is it illegal to do both?
Yes, pick one or else.
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Yes, pick one or else.
Use the Weider superset principle bro.
Fuck sake what is wrong with you?