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Here’s the deal kids… after you’re 50 years old (I’m 61) never take more than 2-3 days off max. More importantly- if you’re on the gas, NEVER come off. Fuck. Every single previous injury, every previous ache or pain will resurface with a vengeance. Boy will it ever.
Stay gassed up. Keep eating like a bodybuilder. Keep training. Never come off.
Thank you. Carry on.
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thank you.
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Here the deal kids… after you’re 50 years old (I’m 61) never take more than 2-3 days off max. More importantly- if you’re on the gas, NEVER come off. Fuck. Every single previous injury, every previous ache or pain will resurface with a vengeance. Boy will it ever.
Stay gassed up. Keep eating like a bodybuilder. Keep training. Never come off.
Thank you. Carry on.
Great advice. As I march into my 50's I plan on following this advice.
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Great advice. As I march into my 50's I plan on following this advice.
Damn. You’re approaching 50? You’ve got the physique of a 30 year old athlete (no homoz)
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Not the same policy employed by Alistair Overeem
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apart from competing I take around 200mgs test every 10 days to 2 weeks
Never off
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apart from competing I take around 200mgs test every 10 days to 2 weeks
Never off
How come so far apart? Don’t you feel a crash after 5 days and down hill till next shot?
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How come so far apart? Don’t you feel a crash after 5 days and down hill till next shot?
Not really
I tried micro dosing with a slin pin for a while 20mg every other day
Couldnt be arsed , I dont like doing shots at the best of times
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Presently taking 100 mgs. of Test 400 2 X a week......was running some D-Bol with it but stopped after my car went MIA !! ;D
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thank you.
:)
You’re welcome.
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apart from competing I take around 200mgs test every 10 days to 2 weeks
Never off
That’s a beautiful cruise IMO. Keep cruising. Don’t get off the boat.
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Presently taking 100 mgs. of Test 400 2 X a week......was running some D-Bol with it but stopped after my car went MIA !! ;D
Test 400 I remember taking that many years ago and the pain was brutal. Obviously 100 mgs would be considerably less pain but still painful no?
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Test 400 I remember taking that many years ago and the pain was brutal. Obviously 100 mgs would be considerably less pain but still painful no?
Just a bit.....due to the Propionate.....I found Sustanon was a lot more painful.
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Here the deal kids… after you’re 50 years old (I’m 61) never take more than 2-3 days off max. More importantly- if you’re on the gas, NEVER come off. Fuck. Every single previous injury, every previous ache or pain will resurface with a vengeance. Boy will it ever.
Stay gassed up. Keep eating like a bodybuilder. Keep training. Never come off.
Thank you. Carry on.
hows your ejection fraction bro ?
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Presently taking 100 mgs. of Test 400 2 X a week......was running some D-Bol with it but stopped after my car went MIA !! ;D
Road rage.
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Road rage.
NO..... LOL.....I have an E-Vap leak,my mechanic can`t seem to find the source of where it`s located so my car has been in the shop for 12 fucking days,I have no choice though as I need an inspection sticker......fucked up my training bigtime as I live way out in the boondocks. :'(
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NO..... LOL.....I have an E-Vap leak,my mechanic can`t seem to find the source of where it`s located so my car has been in the shop for 12 fucking days,I have no choice though as I need an inspection sticker......fucked up my training bigtime as I live way out in the boondocks. :'(
Just kidding, BroWes.
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Here the deal kids… after you’re 50 years old (I’m 61) never take more than 2-3 days off max. More importantly- if you’re on the gas, NEVER come off. Fuck. Every single previous injury, every previous ache or pain will resurface with a vengeance. Boy will it ever.
Stay gassed up. Keep eating like a bodybuilder. Keep training. Never come off.
Thank you. Carry on.
16 years, health markers are good, only run test.
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Shrink your balls to the size of peanuts,
Shut down your test production permanently so you must take TRT forever.
Totally worth it.
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Just kidding, BroWes.
I KNEW THAT!
;D
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Shrink your balls to the size of peanuts,
Shut down your test production permanently so you must take TRT forever.
Totally worth it.
Beats getting old and achy. At 53, I have a better physique than guys 30 years younger than me and a healthy looking physique, not some blotard. Labs 3 to 4 times a year have all been reasonable. Definitely worth it. Balls, lol, who cares, once the wife was knocked up they really aren't necessary.
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Beats getting old and achy. At 53, I have a better physique than guys 30 years younger than me and a healthy looking physique, not some blotard. Labs 3 to 4 times a year have all been reasonable. Definitely worth it. Balls, lol, who cares, once the wife was knocked up they really aren't necessary.
As long as you make an educated decision do what you think is best for you.
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Testosterone dependence: How real is the risk?
https://www.urologytimes.com/view/testosterone-dependence-how-real-risk
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Bro...
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As long as you make an educated decision do what you think is best for you.
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Testosterone dependence: How real is the risk?
https://www.urologytimes.com/view/testosterone-dependence-how-real-risk
Thanks for the article, I read it and nothing in it discouraged me from my use. The article points to those who would like to discontinue use that's not the route I intend to take. I'll inject as long as I'm able to then I have my nurse/aide take it from there.
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cruise on 500mgs a week for 20 years....but only bio-identical test
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Here the deal kids… after you’re 50 years old (I’m 61) never take more than 2-3 days off max. More importantly- if you’re on the gas, NEVER come off. Fuck. Every single previous injury, every previous ache or pain will resurface with a vengeance. Boy will it ever.
Stay gassed up. Keep eating like a bodybuilder. Keep training. Never come off.
Thank you. Carry on.
Tommy I luv you like a pair of handmade Italian shoes, but even though your advices are probably meant to be tongue in cheek, this really isn’t a sound long-term recommendation for everyone.
Maybe add a small caveat for those with a lesser constitution than you.
Be well and kudos again on your championship.
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I never really understood why testicle size is so important to some. Some say they are afraid some woman may notice or even laugh at you. Ridiculous, I doubt most care or keep tabs on your exact ball size. But whatever.
Regarding testicles and gear, and this may be too much information, they do not necessarily shrink to peanut size. I would say for me they get maybe 30% smaller on average but the size changes constantly even after decades on so there is some type of activity still going on. Sometimes they might be as big as ever in the morning and then 50% smaller in the evening, really quick changes by the hour. I noticed this trestolone I was running felt more suppressive than a lot of other gear judged by testicle size and semen volume. Supposedly you are either shut down or not, little in between, but I think that may not be the case. Would be interesting to know if sperm is at zero, never got it measured.
There is some theory that keeping the testicles inactive, in hibernation if you will, will keep them younger. Not that it would matter either way but who knows, maybe you might be better able to get someone pregnant in old age if you used steroids.
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I never really understood why testicle size is so important to some. Some say they are afraid some woman may notice or even laugh at you. Ridiculous, I doubt most care or keep tabs on your exact ball size. But whatever.
Regarding testicles and gear, and this may be too much information, they do not necessarily shrink to peanut size. I would say for me they get maybe 30% smaller on average but the size changes constantly even after decades on so there is some type of activity still going on. Sometimes they might be as big as ever in the morning and then 50% smaller in the evening, really quick changes by the hour. I noticed this trestolone I was running felt more suppressive than a lot of other gear judged by testicle size and semen volume. Supposedly you are either shut down or not, little in between, but I think that may not be the case. Would be interesting to know if sperm is at zero, never got it measured.
There is some theory that keeping the testicles inactive, in hibernation if you will, will keep them younger. Not that it would matter either way but who knows, maybe you might be better able to get someone pregnant in old age if you used steroids.
I knew a guy who got septicemia in his balls, doc said it was because they were shut down totally
He did use a lot of gear for a long time
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Small balls makes the schlong look bigger so shrink em up.
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Small balls makes the schlong look bigger so shrink em up.
Being of Irish descent,this has always been my philosophy! :D
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Small balls makes the schlong look bigger so shrink em up.
Spoken like a true cock connoisseur.
I’m sorry, big Rob! Don’t beat the piss out of meeeee. That’s not me in the bushes
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Small balls makes the schlong look bigger so shrink em up.
eature=share
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Small balls makes the schlong look bigger so shrink em up.
Yep, just ask O Hearn
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I was really disappointed by the results of AAS. Nothing really to write home about in my case.
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I was really disappointed by the results of AAS. Nothing really to write home about in my case.
What did you take? Also if black market could have been bunk or severely underdosed.
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What did you take? Also if black market could have been bunk or severely underdosed.
Sadly it wasn't.
I took pharma test bought ar the pharmacy here,around 750 -1000mg for 3 months,
I took Dbol 20mg for 4 weeks and after that Drol 50mg(reputable brand) for 4 weeks.
Granted I had some results but I was expecting more.
By far the best results were from the Dbol.
I'm pretty sure am a weaker responder.
I also cruise on 125mg and it's showing some but I also lift strenuously.
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Sadly it wasn't.
I took pharma test bought ar the pharmacy here,around 750 -1000mg for 3 months,
I took Dbol 20mg for 4 weeks and after that Drol 50mg(reputable brand) for 4 weeks.
Granted I had some results but I was expecting more.
By far the best results were from the Dbol.
I'm pretty sure am a weaker responder.
I also cruise on 125mg and it's showing some but I also lift strenuously.
The sweet spot is 5+ grams
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Sadly it wasn't.
I took pharma test bought ar the pharmacy here,around 750 -1000mg for 3 months,
I took Dbol 20mg for 4 weeks and after that Drol 50mg(reputable brand) for 4 weeks.
Granted I had some results but I was expecting more.
By far the best results were from the Dbol.
I'm pretty sure am a weaker responder.
I also cruise on 125mg and it's showing some but I also lift strenuously.
Wow yeah that should have given some pretty damn good results.
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Getbiggers seem to need hormone assistance...endlessly. I tried a couple of Dianabol a day a few times in my 'career' - nothing longer than a couple of months (100 tablets). Nothing since 1977. Now almost 81 and my strategy is to keep the hypertrophy process active by specialized training once a week for arms. I have no need for any chemical help. Sometimes remember to take Vitamin D and C, and Magnesium if I am doing some hiking or work. That is it.
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Getbiggers seem to need hormone assistance...endlessly. I tried a couple of Dianabol a day a few times in my 'career' - nothing longer than a couple of months (100 tablets). Nothing since 1977. Now almost 81 and my strategy is to keep the hypertrophy process active by specialized training once a week for arms. I have no need for any chemical help. Sometimes remember to take Vitamin D and C, and Magnesium if I am doing some hiking or work. That is it.
What are the results of your hypertrophy training after so many decades?
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Here the deal kids… after you’re 50 years old (I’m 61) never take more than 2-3 days off max. More importantly- if you’re on the gas, NEVER come off. Fuck. Every single previous injury, every previous ache or pain will resurface with a vengeance. Boy will it ever.
Stay gassed up. Keep eating like a bodybuilder. Keep training. Never come off.
Thank you. Carry on.
Becoming more apparent to me as I’ll be 44 this year. Rode some pretty knarly downhill trails and really felt my body take a beating because I hadn’t trained properly beforehand.
I really need to look at 5 days a week weights + 30mins each session on the bike.
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Sadly it wasn't.
I took pharma test bought ar the pharmacy here,around 750 -1000mg for 3 months,
I took Dbol 20mg for 4 weeks and after that Drol 50mg(reputable brand) for 4 weeks.
Granted I had some results but I was expecting more.
By far the best results were from the Dbol.
I'm pretty sure am a weaker responder.
I also cruise on 125mg and it's showing some but I also lift strenuously.
I’m not saying to take it, but Tren was only stuff that blew my socks off.
Tremendous strength my wife couldn’t believe the weight I was handing when I told her as I am a slim ecto.
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I’m not saying to take it, but Tren was only stuff that blew my socks off.
Tremendous strength my wife couldn’t believe the weight I was handing when I told her as I am a slim ecto.
I actually am considering running a 19-nor now to see if they could make a difference. Can't decide between NPP or Tren Ace,and I have both
Thanks for the recommend.
Am actually very strong though,and rather wanting to pack on some noticeable mass .
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Sadly it wasn't.
I took pharma test bought ar the pharmacy here,around 750 -1000mg for 3 months,
I took Dbol 20mg for 4 weeks and after that Drol 50mg(reputable brand) for 4 weeks.
Granted I had some results but I was expecting more.
By far the best results were from the Dbol.
I'm pretty sure am a weaker responder.
I also cruise on 125mg and it's showing some but I also lift strenuously.
Wow. In my day. Many days ago. Never touched testosterone. 200 mg of decaduroblin and 40 mgs of ciba dianabol was magic...
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I actually am considering running a 19-nor now to see if they could make a difference. Can't decide between NPP or Tren Ace,and I have both
Thanks for the recommend.
Am actually very strong though,and rather wanting to pack on some noticeable mass .
Npp is awesome. Tren ace to me has to many sides, not worth it unless stepping onstage. Npp being just a fast acting deca is great for size and strength with not much sides.
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Wow. In my day. Many days ago. Never touched testosterone. 200 mg of decaduroblin and 40 mgs of ciba dianabol was magic...
Yeah 24 years ago I took 200mgs of deca a week for 20 weeks and 20mgs of Thai dbols a day for 10 weeks and got huge.
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I have to say I am making better gains now off 100mgs of pharm grade test than I made 20 years ago off 500-1000 mgs a week off underground shit. Granted I’m training harder, eating better and not partying but I also think going from low 200s to high 800s is making quite a difference even though not supra-physiological it’s like going from 600 to 2400 but not having the dangers of being so out of range.
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As long as you make an educated decision do what you think is best for you.
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Testosterone dependence: How real is the risk?
https://www.urologytimes.com/view/testosterone-dependence-how-real-risk
That article is from 2014.
My urologist proposed TRT to me, and told me there's plenty of long term studies that say it's safe and effective in appropriate dosages. He's on it himself, and I'd guess he's low 40s.
I declined (test was mid 500s)....I just don't feel I need it yet, as I'm able to still do shit.
Cosmetically it might be cool, but I'd probably ego lift and hurt myself anyway.
Not saying never, just not now.
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16 years, health markers are good, only run test.
:) Beautiful. Love hearing that.
My panels, my complete panels, done after a strong run/prep- were absolutely unremarkable. Luck of the generic draw. I feel great.
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Tommy I luv you like a pair of handmade Italian shoes, but even though your advices are probably meant to be tongue in cheek, this really isn’t a sound long-term recommendation for everyone.
Maybe add a small caveat for those with a lesser constitution than you.
Be well and kudos again on your championship.
Hi JPJ. You are absolutely correct. My guys marvel at my blood work. It’s almost perfect.
When it comes to long term PED usage YMMV your mileage may vary. Go see you doc. Take a look at everything. Never lie to your doctor.
I am delighted you like the shoes. Perhaps one day we could go dancing and you could wear those shoes. Someone told me girls like shoes. They were correct.
JPJ, I will miss you until I see you.
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Here the deal kids… after you’re 50 years old (I’m 61) never take more than 2-3 days off max. More importantly- if you’re on the gas, NEVER come off. Fuck. Every single previous injury, every previous ache or pain will resurface with a vengeance. Boy will it ever.
Stay gassed up. Keep eating like a bodybuilder. Keep training. Never come off.
Thank you. Carry on.
Good message to live by but you forgot one thing. NEVER Apologize!!!
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I’m one of the biggest guys in my village.
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Shrink your balls to the size of peanuts,
Shut down your test production permanently so you must take TRT forever.
Totally worth it.
Users are fucked if they ever have to go live in a nursing home. ;D
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Shrink your balls to the size of peanuts,
Shut down your test production permanently so you must take TRT forever.
Totally worth it.
Wrong on both counts. See for yourself. Quit being a prude and hop on some test.
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Npp is awesome. Tren ace to me has to many sides, not worth it unless stepping onstage. Npp being just a fast acting deca is great for size and strength with not much sides.
Yeah NPP sounds like a smoother better ride. I'm just a bit cautious about the whole deca dick anecdote.
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I actually am considering running a 19-nor now to see if they could make a difference. Can't decide between NPP or Tren Ace,and I have both
Thanks for the recommend.
Am actually very strong though,and rather wanting to pack on some noticeable mass .
The usual reaction to tren is, "wow this stuff works!" It's partly because you usually can really feel it, it stimulates your nervous system for good and bad, you get stronger due to this, sleep is disturbed, mood gets weird, can be aggressive and euphoric in the gym but anxious and moody otherwise, sex drive is usually dramatically boosted immediately though can sometimes go the other way, especially over time or with high doses. Usually you see some quick changes in the physique like there's obviously something in yourrxsystem, there's little doubt. New veins, more hardness, whatever. But at the same time it doesn't necessarily put on a ton of size and scale weight. In fact many feel it's not the most effective "off season" compound because the scale might not move up a lot or not at all, it's like you can't eat enough as it seemingly revs up your metabolism a lot, plus may reduce your appetite. If you'd do some body analysis tests you'd most likely see it's effective for muscle but some want to see that scale move up, even if it's a lot of water and even fat, as long as you fill out your clothes. I think it's probably worthwhile for most juicers to at least try tren to see what it's about, if the sides are too much and the experience isn't that positive you just drop it. Simple.
The few studies on steroids like some 600mg/week testosterone studies show it puts on maybe 10lbs of muscle over several months. It's not necessarily that much. I don't know you but I'd guess you probably gained about that much too. It's just that it mostly looks way better on some due to genes - nicer frame, longer muscle bellies with more muscle fiber to begin with, so it appears more dramatic even if they also "only" gained that 10lbs. What I'm trying to say is that in my opinion this good and bad responder and hyperresponder isn't necessarily quite what people think. AAS basically work on anyone. I have trouble explaning exactly what I mean and all the factors involved without rambling on and on. :D
Dan Duchaine used to say "if Deca and Dbol doesn't work for you then nothing will" so it's not just tren that will show you what steroids can do for you. Duchaine also said an ideal first cycle should be at least 600mg but preferably 1000mg of testosterone a week, "nothing else or less will do." He thought a first cycle seems to be more effective that all subsequent cycles so do a substantial amount and don't mess around with less effective cycles and capitalize on the first exposure magic. You already did that basically. I usually tell a beginner, if they happen to ask me, to include a little Dianabol in a first cycle because it's usually a wonderful feel-good experience with quick size and strength gains. Most recommend test only at first but I've seen it be quite underwhelming for some even if testosterone is a comparatively strong steroid.
Steroids work and work well but they don't continually give more and more gains, the gains pretty quickly peter out and then you can juice for decades without causing many additional gains, you are just maintaining. The so called hyperresponders like top bodybuilders are exactly the same, many will say all their gains in the past several years or decades were due to GH and insulin, they were maxed out on the steroids a long time ago. I know I, unfortunately, didn't grow that much larger after my first exposure gains even with rivers of oils and mountains of pills lol (cry).
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interesting gV_B
SO is that the reason someone like Hankins can take steroids every week for 25 years and effectively gain nothing in the last 20? is that why he makes absolutely no progress and his physique is regressing badly?
I'm on my first cycle in 8 years- 4 weeks into a 300mg test and deca- its been like my first cycle- I'm 50. As Rob said before I am far tighter with diet and don't go out partying a lot anymore so that probably helps.
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Spoken like a true cock connoisseur.
I’m sorry, big Rob! Don’t beat the piss out of meeeee. That’s not me in the bushes
That's me in the Bushes...
That's me in the Spot Light
Losing my Religion / Seed
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they call it robs bush
oooooh robs bush
they call it robs bush fisting limit
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apart from competing I take around 200mgs test every 10 days to 2 weeks
Never off
Maybe i should start taking 200mg every 2 weeks!
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That article is from 2014.
My urologist proposed TRT to me, and told me there's plenty of long term studies that say it's safe and effective in appropriate dosages. He's on it himself, and I'd guess he's low 40s.
I declined (test was mid 500s)....I just don't feel I need it yet, as I'm able to still do shit.
Cosmetically it might be cool, but I'd probably ego lift and hurt myself anyway.
Not saying never, just not now.
August 29, 2020
Is testosterone therapy safe? Take a breath before you take the plunge.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/is-testosterone-therapy-safe-take-a-breath-before-you-take-the-plunge
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Small balls makes the schlong look bigger so shrink em up.
So does shaving your pubic area.
No homo. :D
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Wrong on both counts. See for yourself. Quit being a prude and hop on some test.
Stop it.
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I dont trust studies for TRT, both good and/or bad...
Most of the time they use gen-pop, horribly unhealthy people.
Then there's studies by drug companies that turn out in their favor.
Real TRT (when kept in range) is healthy IMO for those who need it and are very low.
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I dont trust studies for TRT, both good and/or bad...
Most of the time they use gen-pop, horribly unhealthy people.
Then there's studies by drug companies that turn out in their favor.
Real TRT (when kept in range) is healthy IMO for those who need it and are very low.
Well said.
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Yeah NPP sounds like a smoother better ride. I'm just a bit cautious about the whole deca dick anecdote.
If your running test it won’t happen. Never did for me. Even when I ran deca without test it didn’t happen. People always talk about this but never happened to me or anyone I know yet it’s always mentioned.
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That's me in the Bushes...
That's me in the Spot Light
Losing my Religion / Seed
Consider this….
Consider this…..
The bush of the century
Consider this…
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The usual reaction to tren is, "wow this stuff works!" It's partly because you usually can really feel it, it stimulates your nervous system for good and bad, you get stronger due to this, sleep is disturbed, mood gets weird, can be aggressive and euphoric in the gym but anxious and moody otherwise, sex drive is usually dramatically boosted immediately though can sometimes go the other way, especially over time or with high doses. Usually you see some quick changes in the physique like there's obviously something in yourrxsystem, there's little doubt. New veins, more hardness, whatever. But at the same time it doesn't necessarily put on a ton of size and scale weight. In fact many feel it's not the most effective "off season" compound because the scale might not move up a lot or not at all, it's like you can't eat enough as it seemingly revs up your metabolism a lot, plus may reduce your appetite. If you'd do some body analysis tests you'd most likely see it's effective for muscle but some want to see that scale move up, even if it's a lot of water and even fat, as long as you fill out your clothes. I think it's probably worthwhile for most juicers to at least try tren to see what it's about, if the sides are too much and the experience isn't that positive you just drop it. Simple.
The few studies on steroids like some 600mg/week testosterone studies show it puts on maybe 10lbs of muscle over several months. It's not necessarily that much. I don't know you but I'd guess you probably gained about that much too. It's just that it mostly looks way better on some due to genes - nicer frame, longer muscle bellies with more muscle fiber to begin with, so it appears more dramatic even if they also "only" gained that 10lbs. What I'm trying to say is that in my opinion this good and bad responder and hyperresponder isn't necessarily quite what people think. AAS basically work on anyone. I have trouble explaning exactly what I mean and all the factors involved without rambling on and on. :D
Dan Duchaine used to say "if Deca and Dbol doesn't work for you then nothing will" so it's not just tren that will show you what steroids can do for you. Duchaine also said an ideal first cycle should be at least 600mg but preferably 1000mg of testosterone a week, "nothing else or less will do." He thought a first cycle seems to be more effective that all subsequent cycles so do a substantial amount and don't mess around with less effective cycles and capitalize on the first exposure magic. You already did that basically. I usually tell a beginner, if they happen to ask me, to include a little Dianabol in a first cycle because it's usually a wonderful feel-good experience with quick size and strength gains. Most recommend test only at first but I've seen it be quite underwhelming for some even if testosterone is a comparatively strong steroid.
Steroids work and work well but they don't continually give more and more gains, the gains pretty quickly peter out and then you can juice for decades without causing many additional gains, you are just maintaining. The so called hyperresponders like top bodybuilders are exactly the same, many will say all their gains in the past several years or decades were due to GH and insulin, they were maxed out on the steroids a long time ago. I know I, unfortunately, didn't grow that much larger after my first exposure gains even with rivers of oils and mountains of pills lol (cry).
tren is the best fat burner on the planet hands down , to bad it leaves you with permanent mental issues....
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Bodybuilding...The hobby of frauds, phonies, posers, drug addicts and the mentally ill...
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tren is the best fat burner on the planet hands down , to bad it leaves you with permanent mental issues....
I can def attest to leaving you with mental issues haha.
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Bodybuilding...The hobby of frauds, phonies, posers, drug addicts and the mentally ill...
Yeah, but that's only the competitors and not really all of them. And then you have "us". ;D
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August 29, 2020
Is testosterone therapy safe? Take a breath before you take the plunge.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/is-testosterone-therapy-safe-take-a-breath-before-you-take-the-plunge
"I can't tell you for certain that this raises your personal risk of heart problems and prostate cancer, or that it doesn't," Dr. Pallais says.
Convincing stuff.
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Convincing stuff.
No long-term studies.
Eggs, however, are perfectly safe.
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No long-term studies.
Eggs, however, are perfectly safe.
My urologist specifically said that the "no long term studies" thing is complete bullshit.
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Guy I knew from high school named "Stevie" was rumored to be "On the Gas" while he was in high school. He looked it...Never grew to a similar height as his brother...Was indeed strong...And a complete asshole...All the signs.
I googled him the other day and found his obituary...It didn't say what he died of, but asked for contributions to the Kidney Foundation in lieu of flowers.
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My urologist specifically said that the "no long term studies" thing is complete bullshit.
You believe a 40 year old man who's on the gas?
:D
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Guy I knew from high school named "Stevie" was rumored to be "On the Gas" while he was in high school. He looked it...Never grew to a similar height as his brother...Was indeed strong...And a complete asshole...All the signs.
I googled him the other day and found his obituary...It didn't say what he died of, but asked for contributions to the Kidney Foundation in lieu of flowers.
Steve Michalik?
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There's abuse and use. Testosterone is not toxic when used moderately.
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There's abuse and use. Testosterone is not toxic when used moderately.
The white male is now a toxic creature.
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If your running test it won’t happen. Never did for me. Even when I ran deca without test it didn’t happen. People always talk about this but never happened to me or anyone I know yet it’s always mentioned.
Cool,NPP it will be then. Thanks Rob.
don’t do it
I took tren for 3 weeks like a decade back, by the 3rd week I cheated on my gf with 9 different women, gotten one pregnant even. Thank god for abobo’s
That actually sounds great.
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The usual reaction to tren is, "wow this stuff works!" It's partly because you usually can really feel it, it stimulates your nervous system for good and bad, you get stronger due to this, sleep is disturbed, mood gets weird, can be aggressive and euphoric in the gym but anxious and moody otherwise, sex drive is usually dramatically boosted immediately though can sometimes go the other way, especially over time or with high doses. Usually you see some quick changes in the physique like there's obviously something in yourrxsystem, there's little doubt. New veins, more hardness, whatever. But at the same time it doesn't necessarily put on a ton of size and scale weight. In fact many feel it's not the most effective "off season" compound because the scale might not move up a lot or not at all, it's like you can't eat enough as it seemingly revs up your metabolism a lot, plus may reduce your appetite. If you'd do some body analysis tests you'd most likely see it's effective for muscle but some want to see that scale move up, even if it's a lot of water and even fat, as long as you fill out your clothes. I think it's probably worthwhile for most juicers to at least try tren to see what it's about, if the sides are too much and the experience isn't that positive you just drop it. Simple.
The few studies on steroids like some 600mg/week testosterone studies show it puts on maybe 10lbs of muscle over several months. It's not necessarily that much. I don't know you but I'd guess you probably gained about that much too. It's just that it mostly looks way better on some due to genes - nicer frame, longer muscle bellies with more muscle fiber to begin with, so it appears more dramatic even if they also "only" gained that 10lbs. What I'm trying to say is that in my opinion this good and bad responder and hyperresponder isn't necessarily quite what people think. AAS basically work on anyone. I have trouble explaning exactly what I mean and all the factors involved without rambling on and on. :D
Dan Duchaine used to say "if Deca and Dbol doesn't work for you then nothing will" so it's not just tren that will show you what steroids can do for you. Duchaine also said an ideal first cycle should be at least 600mg but preferably 1000mg of testosterone a week, "nothing else or less will do." He thought a first cycle seems to be more effective that all subsequent cycles so do a substantial amount and don't mess around with less effective cycles and capitalize on the first exposure magic. You already did that basically. I usually tell a beginner, if they happen to ask me, to include a little Dianabol in a first cycle because it's usually a wonderful feel-good experience with quick size and strength gains. Most recommend test only at first but I've seen it be quite underwhelming for some even if testosterone is a comparatively strong steroid.
Steroids work and work well but they don't continually give more and more gains, the gains pretty quickly peter out and then you can juice for decades without causing many additional gains, you are just maintaining. The so called hyperresponders like top bodybuilders are exactly the same, many will say all their gains in the past several years or decades were due to GH and insulin, they were maxed out on the steroids a long time ago. I know I, unfortunately, didn't grow that much larger after my first exposure gains even with rivers of oils and mountains of pills lol (cry).
Thank you very much for the whole explanation.
My gains did show on the scale and the tape measure somewhat,but not visually really.
Excellent post .
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tren is the best fat burner on the planet hands down , to bad it leaves you with permanent mental issues....
I can def attest to leaving you with mental issues haha.
Permanent?
Like what?
Having occasionaly used cocaine,heroin,weed,ecstasy,acid back in the day...I'll be damned if I can imagine some Tren leaving permanent issues if those things didn't.
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August 29, 2020
Is testosterone therapy safe? Take a breath before you take the plunge.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/is-testosterone-therapy-safe-take-a-breath-before-you-take-the-plunge
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.116.026945
Some flaws with the study but might it be of interest anyway. I don't see a huge difference in EF but looks like more coronary plaque in users. I'm not sure if that would be the case if they'd treated their LDL.
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Permanent?
Like what?
Having occasionaly used cocaine,heroin,weed,ecstasy,acid back in the day...I'll be damned if I can imagine some Tren leaving permanent issues if those things didn't.
I had no anxiety ever and then I ran tren at 75mgs 3 times a week for 12 weeks then down to 75mgs twice a week for another 4 weeks and I had crazy anxiety when on it and it really never left me until just recently after starting the trt. Also just something was off in my head since then. Just really strong and if I could go back would not have taken it. While on yes it was great muscle wise but I felt like ass. It does stuff mentally.
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Yeah NPP sounds like a smoother better ride. I'm just a bit cautious about the whole deca dick anecdote.
Deca dick is real but also varies from person to person. I'll never use it again. If you go that route, I'd use some proviron with it and have cialis on hand. Or run daily low dose cialis.
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Shrink your balls to the size of peanuts,
Shut down your test production permanently so you must take TRT forever.
Totally worth it.
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don’t do it
I took tren for 3 weeks like a decade back, by the 3rd week I cheated on my gf with 9 different women, gotten one pregnant even. Thank god for abobo’s
Word!
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Deca dick is real but also varies from person to person. I'll never use it again. If you go that route, I'd use some proviron with it and have cialis on hand. Or run daily low dose cialis.
I remember doing a gram of deca a week and I was hard as a rock everyday. I hear these stories but never met anyone who had an issue. My buddy runs 3-500 mgs of deca a week and 200mgs of test and hes never had an issue and he’s been doing this for 10 years at least. But I guess it would be different for everyone.
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I remember doing a gram of deca a week and I was hard as a rock everyday. I hear these stories but never met anyone who had an issue. My buddy runs 3-500 mgs of deca a week and 200mgs of test and hes never had an issue and he’s been doing this for 10 years at least. But I guess it would be different for everyone.
I did fine one cycle on 200/week. The next year I did 450/week and fuck if I wasn't a wet noodle. Cialis and time brought me back. Tren or Trest never did to me what deca did and those too are in the 19-nor family.
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That's me in the Bushes...
That's me in the Spot Light
Losing my Religion / Seed
they call it robs bush
oooooh robs bush
they call it robs bush fisting limit
Consider this….
Consider this…..
The bush of the century
Consider this…
Ssshhhhh! Please can you guys stop fucken singing? It's putting me off my stroke
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Ssshhhhh! Please can you guys stop fucken singing? It's putting me off my stroke
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SPAGHET!!!
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Stop it.
Testicles do not shrivel at all for me,they just hike up a little so they don't hang as usuals.
I have quit cold turkey from 1000mg,felt no difference and was horny with rock hard boners,even with probably 0 test in my system.
iStop going by broscience. Or dumb studies.
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Damn. You’re approaching 50? You’ve got the physique of a 30 year old athlete (no homoz)
Thank you for that Rambone. But im not approaching 50, im in my 50's will be 51 in a few months.
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Deca dick is real but also varies from person to person. I'll never use it again. If you go that route, I'd use some proviron with it and have cialis on hand. Or run daily low dose cialis.
It seems taking test requires just taking more and more drugs to be normal.
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https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.116.026945
Some flaws with the study but might it be of interest anyway. I don't see a huge difference in EF but looks like more coronary plaque in users. I'm not sure if that would be the case if they'd treated their LDL.
IMO all who go on TRT, should take a very low-dose "red yeast rice" from another country.
The USA made it illegal (the real stuff) and what we have is supposed to have zero "Monacolin K" in it. (Natural Lovastatin).
Asians have been using it for a million years, extremely healthy. Big Pharma took it, made it their own (synthetic) and hand it out like candy.
I buy mine from "Zenement" (some other country) and take 8 mg a day. Lipids are perfect...
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SPAGHET!!!
Ah - I see you are a man of good taste then
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Testicles do not shrivel at all for me,they just hike up a little so they don't hang as usuals.
I have quit cold turkey from 1000mg,felt no difference and was horny with rock hard boners,even with probably 0 test in my system.
iStop going by broscience. Or dumb studies.
Please submit evidence to Prime for verification
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You believe a 40 year old man who's on the gas?
:D
Totally.
He's only using 40mg a week, 20mg 2x.
But, I still passed on it.
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From reading internet forums,everyone has nonstop insomnia on Tren?
Why would so many people use the horrid drug then?
How would you function at all?
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TRT (real) is extremely safe for those in shape, and those who monitor.
40 mg is a joke of a dose, wonder why he bothers at all? Tiny test boost I guess...
I guess he knows and likes his range, the 5-factor comes into play. 5x40 - 200 nanograms a deciliter.
If he sits at around 300 natty, then the 200 boost, still very much in mid--range and very safe...
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hey Tommy!! did you run into Pete Grymkowski recently?? that's his advice!
he said his biggest regret was going off.
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TRT (real) is extremely safe for those in shape, and those who monitor.
40 mg is a joke of a dose, wonder why he bothers at all? Tiny test boost I guess...
I guess he knows and likes his range, the 5-factor comes into play. 5x40 - 200 nanograms a deciliter.
If he sits at around 300 natty, then the 200 boost, still very much in mid--range and very safe...
But wouldn’t taking the 40mg still shut you down so if 5x40 he would just have 200? Seems pointless for sure.
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hey Tommy!! did you run into Pete Grymkowski recently?? that's his advice!
he said his biggest regret was going off.
:D
Brother, I have not seen Pete in over 20 years. Last time we spoke was the 2002 or 2003 Olympia I believe. Always liked Pete. He’s completely insane and totally cool.
Way back in the early 1990’s when he would show up at Golds Gym Venice he was either driving a 1985 Chevy Impala, or a Rolls Royce or a Porsche turbo. Always made us laugh.
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Brother, I have not seen Pete in over 20 years. Last time we spoke was the 2002 or 2003 Olympia I believe. Always liked Pete. He’s completely insane and totally cool.
Way back in the early 1990’s when he would show up at Golds Gym Venice he was either driving a 1985 Chevy Impala, or a Rolls Royce or a Porsche turbo. Always made us laugh.
As I have gotten older the same thing happens. Haven't seen this guy in 30 years. Haven't seen that guy in 25 years. It's important to make time but hard as hell to do.
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Brother, I have not seen Pete in over 20 years. Last time we spoke was the 2002 or 2003 Olympia I believe. Always liked Pete. He’s completely insane and totally cool.
Way back in the early 1990’s when he would show up at Golds Gym Venice he was either driving a 1985 Chevy Impala, or a Rolls Royce or a Porsche turbo. Always made us laugh.
i was always a huge fan of Pete. rugged build. and when i met him he was cool as shit.
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For those over 45, keep your PSA levels in check. Prostate cancer is becoming the prevalent cancer in men.
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But wouldn’t taking the 40mg still shut you down so if 5x40 he would just have 200? Seems pointless for sure.
Shutting down natural doenst really happen with tiny doses like that, not enough... (For most folks anyways)..
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For those over 45, keep your PSA levels in check. Prostate cancer is becoming the prevalent cancer in men.
Every man if he lives long enough gets an enlarged prostate.
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TRT (real) is extremely safe for those in shape, and those who monitor.
40 mg is a joke of a dose, wonder why he bothers at all? Tiny test boost I guess...
I guess he knows and likes his range, the 5-factor comes into play. 5x40 - 200 nanograms a deciliter.
If he sits at around 300 natty, then the 200 boost, still very much in mid--range and very safe...
There's a thread on professionalmuscle about doing 10mg of test enanthate per day and there's lots of claims of high normal numbers. That's only 70mg a week. Emeric Delzceg claims several former pros are on this dose with good success. My main problem would be with the daily shots even though it's a tiny shot and they go subcutaneous with an insulin needle. I don't care if levels go up and down a bit, I like once a week or max twice weekly for trt.The approximately every other month test undecanoate is very convenient but you have probably too little control. You could "forget" about it for a while though and that might be nice. For traveling it would be great, do your shot and no need to bring your gear. Here in Sweden they only have the test undecanoate shots and the creams. Apparently test e is too much of a hassle with the "frequent" shots.
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What kind of dosage would those you use the gels get?
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Many doctors are drug addicts.
Usually amphetamines and opiods.
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Many doctors are drug addicts.
Usually amphetamines and opiods.
nice combo
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nice combo
They get hooked in med school from what I've read.
Write their own scripts.
Like alcoholics working as bartenders.
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What kind of dosage would those you use the gels get?
doctors use the gels as a litmus test to see if you have a bad reaction before they give you the real shit
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Many doctors are drug addicts.
Usually amphetamines and opiods.
Amphetamines to get through medical school and long 12+ hour shifts in the ER.