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HCTZ 1:40
Gabapentin/Neurontin 2:31
Anti-Inflammatories 3:00
Flexeril 4:15
Benadryl 4:40
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Are there enough getbiggers over 65 to warrant such a thread? How time flies .. :-X
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Are there enough getbiggers over 65 to warrant such a thread? How time flies .. :-X
Any age should be careful with these drugs.
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Other than drowsiness what is the problem with gabapentin?
I've been taking it 3 to 4 X a week for sleep. It's really the best thing I've ever used for sleep. 200 mgs does the trick anything more than 300 mgs and there's a little drowsiness the next day but not too much. Is there some other issue with it?
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Any age should be careful with these drugs.
I am currently on a bunch of stuff I cannot begin to pronounce. I have to trust my doctors. Dammit!
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Avoid all pharmaceuticals, most are poison.
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Other than drowsiness what is the problem with gabapentin?
I've been taking it 3 to 4 X a week for sleep. It's really the best thing I've ever used for sleep. 200 mgs does the trick anything more than 300 mgs and there's a little drowsiness the next day but not too much. Is there some other issue with it?
Oh really? I never knew it was used for that. I remember reading of widespread gabapentin abuse in the UK, but it was pretty much all just junkies who took anything they could get anyway. Diphenhydramine (Nytol/Benadryl) actually works very well on me for sleep.
Side note: this guy bugs me. He had some success with the channel during the COVID years, but it seems as though he's throwing his full weight into it with clickbait titles. He's got a really gay cadence to his voice that makes everything sound like some sort of sexually-charged question. "HellooOO? Dr SunEEl DhAaand? Can I..... suck ya pENis?"
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Oh really? I never knew it was used for that. I remember reading of widespread gabapentin abuse in the UK, but it was pretty much all just junkies who took anything they could get anyway. Diphenhydramine (Nytol/Benadryl) actually works very well on me for sleep.
Side note: this guy bugs me. He had some success with the channel during the COVID years, but it seems as though he's throwing his full weight into it with clickbait titles. He's got a really gay cadence to his voice that makes everything sound like some sort of sexually-charged question. "HellooOO? Dr SunEEl DhAaand? Can I..... suck ya pENis?"
A couple of people recommended it to me for sleep. I called my Doctor and asked. Presto. He said "well, its typically used for pain but a common side effect is drowsiness. Try it and let me know how it works." He said had a relatively low abuse profile, which surprised me because so many people online have told me differently.
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Other than drowsiness what is the problem with gabapentin?
I've been taking it 3 to 4 X a week for sleep. It's really the best thing I've ever used for sleep. 200 mgs does the trick anything more than 300 mgs and there's a little drowsiness the next day but not too much. Is there some other issue with it?
Why are 60% of Americans over 60 taking 4-5 medications? Is this necessary?
I'm 65 and take zero medications.
The point is that doctors today often do not address the root causes of a problem and just prescribe drugs.
For example, what is the root cause of why you need a drug to sleep?
Would it not be better to correct this issue (if possible) so that you no longer need to take the drug?
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Why are 60% of Americans over 60 taking 4-5 medications? Is this necessary?
I'm 65 and take zero medications.
The point is that doctors today often do not address the root causes of a problem and just prescribe drugs.
For example, what is the root cause of why you need a drug to sleep?
Would it not be better to correct this issue (if possible) so that you no longer need to take the drug?
Had a sinus infection walked out of the ENT with a script for three pharma meds. Bullshit!
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Why are 60% of Americans over 60 taking 4-5 medications? Is this necessary?
I'm 65 and take zero medications.
The point is that doctors today often do not address the root causes of a problem and just prescribe drugs.
For example, what is the root cause of why you need a drug to sleep?
Would it not be better to correct this issue (if possible) so that you no longer need to take the drug?
Sleep problems been going on for over a decade. Probably from working the grave yard shift for years as well as a healthy dose of ptsd.
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Other than drowsiness what is the problem with gabapentin?
I've been taking it 3 to 4 X a week for sleep. It's really the best thing I've ever used for sleep. 200 mgs does the trick anything more than 300 mgs and there's a little drowsiness the next day but not too much. Is there some other issue with it?
I'm on it for sleep also..., (300 mg) what's the issue?
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Thanks, will avoid these meds
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In the video the guy said gabapentin side effect is drowsiness ..... that's what I'm fucking taking it for! To sleep .....
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Why are 60% of Americans over 60 taking 4-5 medications? Is this necessary?
I'm 65 and take zero medications.
The point is that doctors today often do not address the root causes of a problem and just prescribe drugs.
For example, what is the root cause of why you need a drug to sleep?
Would it not be better to correct this issue (if possible) so that you no longer need to take the drug?
In my case there is the matter of my heart, my death and my, for lack of a lesser term, return. The doctors gave me strict orders not to defer from the medications they gave me. Also I wear two watches to monitor my heart as best they can and I must also keep in mind what I think a heart attack feels like and get to an ER as quickly as possible if I think I am having one.
I do not like taking medicines. When first given Warfarin was able to be taken off after a while. It took a few months too for me to convince them I could make it without that rat poison. I would go through places with blood oozing out of my eyes and mouth, often just telling people I was a day-walking vampyre.
I am looking across the room now at 17 bottles. One day I hope to not have any there so I do as they ask. Over 73 pounds removed from my frame because the heart doesn't care if it is fat or muscle. I try to train and this week I am doing better than I have in some time. My older brother has been given some medicine he does not like taking but he has to make his choices himself or with his wife.
So yes, my friend. It will be better when we are able to not have to take something. Until then, it will be a bitter. I can do this again.
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In the video the guy said gabapentin side effect is drowsiness ..... that's what I'm fucking taking it for! To sleep .....
Same. That was my question. Like OK, so what if you are trying to sleep? Why would you advise someone to stop taking it? It works great for me.
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Same. That was my question. Like OK, so what if you are trying to sleep? Why would you advise someone to stop taking it? It works great for me.
Same here man! ..... (I'm also on Seroquel for sleep .... I have severe insomnia! ... I'll lay awake all night .... then panic / get anxiety as the sun rises) Gabapentin has helped tremendously! (If I stop taking everything I don't sleep ... at all!)
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Z-class drugs for sleep. The danger is in next day falls. An old person who breaks their hip is often a goner. Yes this is what an alarming number of them are prescribed - even while the instructions say they are not really to be prescribed to the elderly, and not for longer than 2 weeks. Yet people like my mother have had a prescription for years straight. Lately they try to push the antidepressant mirtazapine instead for sleep.
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Avoid all pharmaceuticals, most are poison.
Agreed. I have avoided all of them so far.
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The point is that doctors today often do not address the root causes of a problem and just prescribe drugs.
For example, what is the root cause of why you need a drug to sleep?
Would it not be better to correct this issue (if possible) so that you no longer need to take the drug?
As a doc the problem is that many people are not willing to do work required to solve the root of the problem. Imsomnia is a great example.
Doc - We've now concluded that your imsomnia is caused by your lifestyle and stress. I would suggest that we will induce some more daily moderate exercise. You will not use your mobile devices before bedtime. Make sure the room is cool. There is also a possibility of sleep therapy if we aren't able to solve the problem.
Patient - *look of bewilderment* Hell no. I already do everything perfectly. I want some pills ;D
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Avoid all pharmaceuticals, most are poison.
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Same here man! ..... (I'm also on Seroquel for sleep .... I have severe insomnia! ... I'll lay awake all night .... then panic / get anxiety as the sun rises) Gabapentin has helped tremendously! (If I stop taking everything I don't sleep ... at all!)
How about Lergigan, Theralen, Propavan, Melatonin?
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Other than drowsiness what is the problem with gabapentin?
I've been taking it 3 to 4 X a week for sleep. It's really the best thing I've ever used for sleep. 200 mgs does the trick anything more than 300 mgs and there's a little drowsiness the next day but not too much. Is there some other issue with it?
That is very interesting it is RX'd for sleep. Do you have any sort of pain diagnostic or nerve problems (like restless leg syndrome) that was interfering in your sleep?
I know someone that takes it because of the neuro problems that chemo gave her. She says that the biggest problem she has with it is that she has the brain fog at times and feels very lethargic during the day often. She's been on it for about a year now.
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As a doc the problem is that many people are not willing to do work required to solve the root of the problem. Imsomnia is a great example.
Doc - We've now concluded that your imsomnia is caused by your lifestyle and stress. I would suggest that we will induce some more daily moderate exercise. You will not use your mobile devices before bedtime. Make sure the room is cool. There is also a possibility of sleep therapy if we aren't able to solve the problem.
Patient - *look of bewilderment* Hell no. I already do everything perfectly. I want some pills ;D
Yes, that is the case with most people.
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The focus of most of these interweb docs is metabolic syndrome which is things like blood pressure, cholesterol levels, diabetes, etc.
It's like a car that runs bad because you put bad gas in it or never change the oil and filters.
You get a patient who is obese, close to diabetes type 2 or has high cholesterol and you put them on drugs to manage it instead of discussing diet.
Most docs will tell the patient they need to lose weight, stop eating crap. But the patients won't do it.
Most people would rather take drugs than stop eating pizza and lots of sugar.
Now, the new weight loss drugs are just another pill to manage obesity instead of changing behaviors.
Changing behavior is hard.
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The focus of most of these interweb docs is metabolic syndrome which is things like blood pressure, cholesterol levels, diabetes, etc.
It's like a car that runs bad because you put bad gas in it or never change the oil and filters.
You get a patient who is obese, close to diabetes type 2 or has high cholesterol and you put them on drugs to manage it instead of discussing diet.
Most docs will tell the patient they need to lose weight, stop eating crap. But the patients won't do it.
Most people would rather take drugs than stop eating pizza and lots of sugar.
Now, the new weight loss drugs are just another pill to manage obesity instead of changing behaviors.
Changing behavior is hard.
I have noticed this when I am with any of my doctors or physical therapists. They all say that none of these folks are listening to them and are relying on medicine to do the job they refuse to do. I do not do that and that is perhaps the main reason I am not (yet?) under the knife again. The two physicians that were to operate on my spine and shoulders both told me that I should refuse the surgery and then gave me time to think about it.
I did as they asked and when I had told the I did not want any surgery they said that was good because I had already exceed the other folk that they were working with and on. Because even when I could not train with weights, I still did as I was asked to do as far as diet and trying to walk. Even though they have told me that I will never walk "normal" again, I accept that and still work on my hope.
People such as we are here on this forum understand that behavior is something that can be changed for the better and I have used my ego to try to force myself to work at what the doctors say cannot be. We cannot be who we once were but that doesn't mean we give in to becoming unrecognizable to the one person who will never forget and that being us.
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How about Lergigan, Theralen, Propavan, Melatonin?
Melatonin yes (then a bunch of other OTC stuff like Benadryl/ these blue sleep pills from Costco pictured... literally a handful of pills
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That is very interesting it is RX'd for sleep. Do you have any sort of pain diagnostic or nerve problems (like restless leg syndrome) that was interfering in your sleep?
I know someone that takes it because of the neuro problems that chemo gave her. She says that the biggest problem she has with it is that she has the brain fog at times and feels very lethargic during the day often. She's been on it for about a year now.
No physical damage that I'm aware of anyway. But it's like my nervous system is always on 11. At night it's hard to slow my mind down. Trust me when I say I've tried everything under the sun too.
I take a day or two off of gabapentin every week. If I take 2 or more days off I'll be lucky to get 2 hours sleep. It's miserable. From what I understand 300 mgs is a pretty mild dose. People take anywhere from 900 mgs to 2100 mgs per day.
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Drink whiskey, eat chocolate, jerk off, remember the last dream you had.
Huberman claims early morning sunlight is the #1 thing for establishing circadian rhythm.
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I like to eat late and it's my biggest and most carb heavy meal. I naturally want to sleep after a big feed. I stay a little bit hungry all day, big plateful at night.
I have no idea why they tell us we should be stuffed and sluggish all day and go to sleep hungry. It's idiotic.
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I think anyone over 65 should avoid viagra. My doc gave me a sample pack. When I took it my heart was racing disturbingly. It was originally a heart medicine. I thought I was having a heart attack. I just imagined dying with a heart attack with a hard on. Maybe not a bad way to go.
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The focus of most of these interweb docs is metabolic syndrome which is things like blood pressure, cholesterol levels, diabetes, etc.
It's like a car that runs bad because you put bad gas in it or never change the oil and filters.
You get a patient who is obese, close to diabetes type 2 or has high cholesterol and you put them on drugs to manage it instead of discussing diet.
Most docs will tell the patient they need to lose weight, stop eating crap. But the patients won't do it.
Most people would rather take drugs than stop eating pizza and lots of sugar.
Now, the new weight loss drugs are just another pill to manage obesity instead of changing behaviors.
Changing behavior is hard.
Changing behavior is hard especially for those who never were involved in bodybuilding. I'm very glad I started training and monitoring diet at a young age.
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I think anyone over 65 should avoid viagra. My doc gave me a sample pack. When I took it my heart was racing disturbingly. It was originally a heart medicine. I thought I was having a heart attack. I just imagined dying with a heart attack with a hard on. Maybe not a bad way to go.
change your Doctor ::)
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I think anyone over 65 should avoid viagra. My doc gave me a sample pack. When I took it my heart was racing disturbingly. It was originally a heart medicine. I thought I was having a heart attack. I just imagined dying with a heart attack with a hard on. Maybe not a bad way to go.
I took a viagra, it stuck in my throat, I had a stiff neck for 2 hours..
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I took a viagra, it stuck in my throat, I had a stiff neck for 2 hours..
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I like to eat late and it's my biggest and most carb heavy meal. I naturally want to sleep after a big feed. I stay a little bit hungry all day, big plateful at night.
I have no idea why they tell us we should be stuffed and sluggish all day and go to sleep hungry. It's idiotic.
I’m similar to you as I don’t eat a solid meal until 3pm usually and I sleep better when full (belly).
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I think anyone over 65 should avoid viagra. My doc gave me a sample pack. When I took it my heart was racing disturbingly. It was originally a heart medicine. I thought I was having a heart attack. I just imagined dying with a heart attack with a hard on. Maybe not a bad way to go.
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I took a viagra, it stuck in my throat, I had a stiff neck for 2 hours..
I use to have restless sleep rolling and falling out of bed. One viagra and I had a kick stand. Problem solved.
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I’m taking
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Metformin
Metoprolol
Testosterone
HCG
Deca
HGH
Cialis
OTC
Benadryl
Berberin
Digestive enzymes/probiotics
Yohimbine HCL sometimes
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I’m taking
Prescribed
Metformin
Metoprolol
Testosterone
HCG
Deca
HGH
Cialis
OTC
Benadryl
Berberin
Digestive enzymes/probiotics
Yohimbine HCL sometimes
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No.
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Nat, I'm happy you have a level of "wellness" that I don't possess. I'm glad you don't require a cabinet full of drugs, prescribed, OTC or otherwise.
You probably have quite a bit of balance and stability in your life.
Over the last decade or two I have gotten to a point of misery that is very difficult for me to pull myself out of. I can't depend on anyone else to pull me up nor would I trust them if they could or would.
If I get something from a doctor that helps me not-want to curb stomp every other person I meet or makes me not lament the fact that I have to spend 1 more day on a planet populated with vapid, shallow, ignorant, assholes then I take it. My kids are the only reason I haven't taken any drastic measures. I owe it to them to earn and save money and provide for them. But each day regret grows more about bringing people into this world because I know it's only getting worse and one day I won't be here for them regardless. The only worse I thought I have is the grief I feel for those that have had to watch one of their children die.
So I don't mind taking a medication or a drug that makes it all just a bit more tolerable.
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The focus of most of these interweb docs is metabolic syndrome which is things like blood pressure, cholesterol levels, diabetes, etc.
It's like a car that runs bad because you put bad gas in it or never change the oil and filters.
You get a patient who is obese, close to diabetes type 2 or has high cholesterol and you put them on drugs to manage it instead of discussing diet.
Most docs will tell the patient they need to lose weight, stop eating crap. But the patients won't do it.
Most people would rather take drugs than stop eating pizza and lots of sugar.
Now, the new weight loss drugs are just another pill to manage obesity instead of changing behaviors.
Changing behavior is hard.
You are correct.
The majority of people would rather take a pill than change their lifestyle.
I've noticed as my parents get older, the Docs push drugs more than lifestyle changes.
My dad confronted his Doc about it, and he said that nobody ever wants to change their diet/lifestyle anymore, so he just asks if they want to change their way of life or take a pill.
They almost always choose the pill.
Then you have my grandma who is 92 years old, has smoked since she was 14.
Has been taking Celebrex for almost 20 years for joint pain.
People say this should have killed her by now.
Takes 20+ pills a day for over 25 years.
She will be lucky to make 110.
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Nat, I'm happy you have a level of "wellness" that I don't possess. I'm glad you don't require a cabinet full of drugs, prescribed, OTC or otherwise.
You probably have quite a bit of balance and stability in your life.
Over the last decade or two I have gotten to a point of misery that is very difficult for me to pull myself out of. I can't depend on anyone else to pull me up nor would I trust them if they could or would.
If I get something from a doctor that helps me not-want to curb stomp every other person I meet or makes me not lament the fact that I have to spend 1 more day on a planet populated with vapid, shallow, ignorant, assholes then I take it. My kids are the only reason I haven't taken any drastic measures. I owe it to them to earn and save money and provide for them. But each day regret grows more about bringing people into this world because I know it's only getting worse and one day I won't be here for them regardless. The only worse I thought I have is the grief I feel for those that have had to watch one of their children die.
So I don't mind taking a medication or a drug that makes it all just a bit more tolerable.
Dam, Beak, I'm sorry to hear you have all that.
Stay strong, bro.
I'm not qualified to offer advices.
Two people I had close relationships with ( a nephew and a work associate) had emotional issues and killed themselves.
Whatever you feel don't do that. It is not a solution.
One was a manic depressive who had wild swings up and down.
The nephew was depressed over a broken relationship with a girlfriend among other things.
The world has always been full of problems that are beyond our ability to solve.
At the same time there are wonderful things too.
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Dam, Beak, I'm sorry to hear you have all that.
Stay strong, bro.
I'm not qualified to offer advices.
Two people I had close relationships with ( a nephew and a work associate) had emotional issues and killed themselves.
Whatever you feel don't do that. It is not a solution.
One was a manic depressive who had wild swings up and down.
The nephew was depressed over a broken relationship with a girlfriend among other things.
The world has always been full of problems that are beyond our ability to solve.
At the same time there are wonderful things too.
I am trying to find them.
Thanks for the words.
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I am trying to find them.
Thanks for the words.
Sunrises and sunsets.
Ice cream.
Baseball.
Steak.
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To see your enemies driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women.
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To see your enemies driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women.
Conan didn't take any medications.
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Conan didn't take any medications.
He took black lotus. Stigyan, the best.
He imbibed a little too.
When all else failed he got high on Crom.
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He took black lotus. Stigyan, the best.
He imbibed a little too.
When all else failed he got high on Crom.
True. I wasn't counting herbs.
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No.
Which part?
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Which part?
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You're not actually taking all those at the same time are you?
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You're not actually taking all those at the same time are you?
Haven’t taken the anavar in close to a year..still have some but I don’t think my TRT clinic prescribed it anymore
Also just switched HCG for enclomiphen
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Haven’t taken the anavar in close to a year..still have some but I don’t think my TRT clinic prescribed it anymore
Also just switched HCG for enclomiphen
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Real TRT clinics will only give you test
If they are giving you Anavar its because you asked for it and are willing to pay for it
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Real TRT clinics will only give you test
If they are giving you Anavar its because you asked for it and are willing to pay for it
Wow, you never told us you were a doctor
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Wow, you never told us you were a doctor
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I'm not a real doctor but I play one on Getbig.
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I'm not a real doctor but I play one on Getbig.
Technically everyone on getbig is a doctor.
But the anavar dosage was small..like 10mg a day. The test right now is 180mg (60mg 3x a week) it was at 350 because I had adrenal fatigue and 350mg a week couldn’t get my levels above 500(I think) and then one day I got blood work and it was over 3000..so, the TBI treatment worked lol
The deca is 120mg weekly and the HGH is 2iu daily but I usually skip the weekends if I’m being honest.
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Technically everyone on getbig is a doctor.
But the anavar dosage was small..like 10mg a day. The test right now is 180mg (60mg 3x a week) it was at 350 because I had adrenal fatigue and 350mg a week couldn’t get my levels above 500(I think) and then one day I got blood work and it was over 3000..so, the TBI treatment worked lol
The deca is 120mg weekly and the HGH is 2iu daily but I usually skip the weekends if I’m being honest.
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TRT is test, thats it
They dont routinely give out others drugs
I take it you pay for all these meds this "doctor" gives you?
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TRT is test, thats it
They dont routinely give out others drugs
I take it you pay for all these meds this "doctor" gives you?
I don’t do TRT..I do hormone replacement..testosteron e is just one of the bio-identical hormones I’m replacing.
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